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0:00:46 > 0:00:49- Peredur ap Gwynedd - has two obsessions.
0:00:49 > 0:00:52- Playing guitar, - like he does with Pendulum.
0:00:53 > 0:00:56- And cycling, - like he's doing here in the Alps.
0:00:56 > 0:00:59- Before I meet him, - here's some unnecessary racism...
0:00:59 > 0:01:01- ..from me, Daniel Glyn.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04- No wonder people think - the French don't wash...
0:01:04 > 0:01:08- ..if they have to climb up this far - just to have a bath.
0:01:12 > 0:01:17- Peredur spends his life performing - in front of huge audiences...
0:01:17 > 0:01:20- ..and cycling in remote, - lofty areas like the French Alps.
0:01:20 > 0:01:23- He's the one on the left, - by the way!
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- He's one of Wales' most successful - professional musicians.
0:01:30 > 0:01:32- Before joining Pendulum...
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- ..he travelled the world - for a decade with Natalie Imbruglia.
0:01:36 > 0:01:39- He's lost count of how many - No.1 singles he's played on.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- I asked Peredur - if he gets the same buzz...
0:01:47 > 0:01:50- ..from playing guitar - to thousands...
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- ..as cycling hundreds of kilometres.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02- Yes, I get - exactly the same buzz from it.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06- Once you've reached - the summit of a mountain...
0:02:06 > 0:02:11- ..it's the same as coming off stage - after playing in front of thousands.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13- It's exactly the same buzz.
0:02:14 > 0:02:19- When I'm not on tour, I'm on top - of a mountain, and vice versa.
0:02:19 > 0:02:22- Even when I'm on tour, - I take my bike with me.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25- When I've got a day off, - I can still get a buzz!
0:02:26 > 0:02:28- You've worked hard - at music and cycling.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31- What does that say - about your personality?
0:02:32 > 0:02:35- Do you have - an addictive personality?
0:02:35 > 0:02:40- Yes, very addictive. I own more than - 60 guitars. No-one needs 60 guitars.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- It's silly, really.
0:02:44 > 0:02:46- But I've a collection of 60.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50- I should get rid of them - because I've no room at home.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53- What's the most extreme thing - you've done on a bike?
0:02:54 > 0:02:56- I've done - a couple of extreme things.
0:02:59 > 0:03:01- I once cycled from gig to gig.
0:03:02 > 0:03:05- The first gig was in Zurich...
0:03:05 > 0:03:08- ..but the second gig...
0:03:08 > 0:03:11- ..was on the west coast of France.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15- It took me six days.
0:03:15 > 0:03:19- I said to my tour manager, - "You know these two gigs?"...
0:03:19 > 0:03:22- There was a week between them. - He said, "Yes".
0:03:23 > 0:03:26- "I'm going to cycle - from Zurich to Saint-Nazaire."
0:03:26 > 0:03:30- He said, "Of course you are." - I said, "Yes, I am.
0:03:30 > 0:03:35- "Don't bother getting me a return - ticket to London, I'll cycle there."
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- He said, "Yeah, right."
0:03:37 > 0:03:41- So I turned up at the airport - with the bike in the box.
0:03:42 > 0:03:45- He said, "You're not joking, - are you?" I said, "No."
0:03:45 > 0:03:48- So he cancelled my return ticket.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54- The day after the gig, - everyone went to Zurich Airport.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56- I was there with my bike.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59- And I cycled all the way.
0:03:59 > 0:04:03- I beat them to it - and got to the gig ahead of them.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07- I arrived a day before them.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- I cycled - an average of 108 miles every day.
0:04:12 > 0:04:15- The most I cycled in one day - was 123 miles...
0:04:15 > 0:04:18- ..into a 20mph headwind all the way.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20- That wasn't much fun.
0:04:21 > 0:04:24- I'm sure - you felt very self-righteous too.
0:04:24 > 0:04:27- Did the others - get there by bus or did they fly?
0:04:27 > 0:04:30- They flew back - and took the bus there.
0:04:30 > 0:04:35- I did feel self-righteous - and I also felt six pounds lighter.
0:04:35 > 0:04:41- You're obviously very fit. - Does that help you when you perform?
0:04:41 > 0:04:45- The fitter you are, - the better you perform.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49- When I smoked...
0:04:49 > 0:04:52- ..I'd come off stage - and I'd be out of breath.
0:04:52 > 0:04:54- That doesn't happen any more.
0:04:54 > 0:04:59- I monitored my heart rate during - one show and took a reading...
0:04:59 > 0:05:02- ..just to see what was happening.
0:05:02 > 0:05:04- I was quite pleased with it!
0:05:05 > 0:05:08- Drum'n'bass - has a high beats per minute ratio.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10- Yes, 174.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13- And how fast was your heart rate?
0:05:13 > 0:05:14- 104.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16- 104.- - Well done, well done.
0:05:16 > 0:05:17- You're fitter than drum'n'bass!
0:05:17 > 0:05:21- You're fitter than drum'n'bass!- - It was like doing yoga on stage.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26- When did - your cycling obsession begin?
0:05:26 > 0:05:31- I was a heavy smoker. - I smoked far too much.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36- During the first rehearsal - of Pendulum's first tour...
0:05:36 > 0:05:41- ..I had a chest infection - and decided to give up smoking.
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- After about two months, - I'd beaten the addiction.
0:05:47 > 0:05:52- I didn't need nicotine any more, - so I started swimming.
0:05:52 > 0:05:57- But I found it really dull...
0:05:57 > 0:06:00- ..going back and forth 25 metres.
0:06:01 > 0:06:05- My girlfriend - and I went on holiday...
0:06:05 > 0:06:08- ..to a small island off Bali...
0:06:09 > 0:06:12- ..where there are no cars.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14- They had mountain bikes...
0:06:14 > 0:06:18- ..so we hired a couple and - it was like being a child again.
0:06:18 > 0:06:23- I rediscovered the buzz that - riding a Raleigh Chopper gave me.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27- I used to pretend - I was Eddie Merckx...
0:06:27 > 0:06:29- ..or Erik Estrada off Chips.
0:06:31 > 0:06:33- That's when it started.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36- You were cycling to keep fit...
0:06:37 > 0:06:40- ..then you gained access - to the professional cycling world.
0:06:40 > 0:06:45- I'm on Twitter, and lots of the pros - are on Twitter too.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49- A guy called Manuel Quinziato...
0:06:49 > 0:06:53- ..tweeted - during the 2010 Tour de France.
0:06:54 > 0:06:56- He was a member - of the Liquigas team.
0:06:56 > 0:07:01- He tweeted that he was listening - to Rage Against the Machine...
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- ..and wanted - some new music to listen to.
0:07:04 > 0:07:10- A friend of mine tweeted him and - said he should listen to Pendulum.
0:07:10 > 0:07:16- He said the guitarist is a cyclist - too and you might like the music.
0:07:16 > 0:07:18- We became friends after that...
0:07:18 > 0:07:22- ..and communicated a lot - via Twitter.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26- He came to one of our gigs - a few months later in Innsbruck.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30- He came to the show and I met him...
0:07:31 > 0:07:36- ..and he invited me - to a training camp in Calpe, Spain.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42- He'd just joined BMC, - his new cycling team by then.
0:07:42 > 0:07:44- A few of the BMC guys were there...
0:07:45 > 0:07:49- ..along with some from Liquigas, - Astana and Quick-Step...
0:07:49 > 0:07:51- ..which are the big teams.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54- The hotel where I was staying - was full of my heroes!
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- I spent 10 days with them...
0:07:58 > 0:08:00- ..training...
0:08:00 > 0:08:03- ..and they invited me back again...
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- ..to train with them - ahead of the Tour de France.
0:08:08 > 0:08:13- Half of the BMC team were training - in a place called Lavinio...
0:08:13 > 0:08:17- ..in the north of Italy.
0:08:17 > 0:08:21- I trained with them there - the year they won.
0:08:21 > 0:08:23- When you meet these people...
0:08:24 > 0:08:28- ..do you keep your cool or do you - become a bit girly about it all?
0:08:28 > 0:08:32- With a couple of them I think, - 'Crikey, it's thingybob.'
0:08:32 > 0:08:38- I'm more star-struck with - people like that than musicians.
0:08:38 > 0:08:42- So if you could meet, - I don't know, Barbara Streisand...
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- ..or someone like that, you'd go, - "Hiya, Babs"?
0:08:46 > 0:08:50- I once met Bette Midler, - and she went, "Alright?"...
0:08:50 > 0:08:53- ..and I said, "Yeah."
0:08:53 > 0:08:56- While she said, "Oh, my God, - it's Purudir ap Junad!"
0:08:57 > 0:09:00- I know - you enjoy watching cycling races...
0:09:00 > 0:09:04- ..so why do you - refuse to race yourself?
0:09:04 > 0:09:06- I don't want to race...
0:09:06 > 0:09:11- ..even though I've - already dislocated my scapula...
0:09:11 > 0:09:14- ..it's important - that it's still intact...
0:09:15 > 0:09:17- ..because - my guitar strap goes over it.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20- If it's broken, I can't play guitar.
0:09:20 > 0:09:25- I could sit down and play but I - couldn't stand up. No racing for me.
0:09:25 > 0:09:30- I can't remember being in a place - this quiet and tranquil.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32- It makes me feel very relaxed.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36- I know that cycling in these parts - can be extreme...
0:09:36 > 0:09:41- ..but you must also - get some relaxation out of it too?
0:09:42 > 0:09:45- Yes, there's - something Zen-like about it.
0:09:47 > 0:09:52- Though I haven't read The Loneliness - of the Long-Distance Runner...
0:09:52 > 0:09:55- ..that must be - something to do with it too.
0:09:55 > 0:09:58- Just the fact - that you're alone in the mountains.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01- I like cycling alone too.
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- It really clears the mind.
0:10:05 > 0:10:07- It's a laxative for the brain.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- It was time to leave - as the cold made it impossible...
0:10:12 > 0:10:15- ..to continue our conversation.
0:10:16 > 0:10:19- Peredur's headquarters whilst - cycling in this part of the world...
0:10:20 > 0:10:22- ..is the historic quarter of Nice.
0:10:22 > 0:10:26- Nice was 50km away from - the mountain he'd just climbed...
0:10:26 > 0:10:28- ..but Peredur - insisted on cycling home.
0:10:28 > 0:10:33- You'd have thought a top guitarist - could afford to catch a bus.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35- After using - lots of energy cycling...
0:10:36 > 0:10:39- ..you'd have thought - Peredur would be starving.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- I was in the land of - the Michelin star with a rockstar...
0:10:44 > 0:10:47- ..and looking forward - to a gastronomic feast.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50- Peredur knew just the place nearby.
0:10:50 > 0:10:52- Rock'n'roll!
0:10:58 > 0:11:01- I'll find out - your pizza preference now.
0:11:01 > 0:11:05- But I want to talk about - your music preferences.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- Have you been influenced - by the same music all your life?
0:11:09 > 0:11:12- All I've listened to - is heavy rock music.
0:11:12 > 0:11:13- Just heavy rock?
0:11:13 > 0:11:15- Just heavy rock?- - Yes, that's all.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19- The same bands and the same records. - Everything else is shit.
0:11:19 > 0:11:23- What was - the first heavy rock band you heard?
0:11:23 > 0:11:26- AC/DC, probably, or Led Zeppelin.
0:11:26 > 0:11:32- Are you still into AC/DC? - The old stuff or their new stuff?
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- Just the old stuff. - I don't like their new stuff at all.
0:11:36 > 0:11:40- Don't you go through - things like Spotify or iTunes...
0:11:40 > 0:11:42- ..and pick up new stuff?
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- No, I don't like listening - to music that much, to be honest.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- It's my job, so the last thing - I want to do when I come home...
0:11:51 > 0:11:54- ..is listen to music - because I've been doing it all day.
0:11:55 > 0:11:57- If I want to relax, - I do other things.
0:11:57 > 0:12:01- But if you do listen to music, - it's heavy rock.
0:12:01 > 0:12:03- There's a real purity to that.
0:12:04 > 0:12:08- I suppose you could call it purity, - or maybe blinkered!
0:12:10 > 0:12:13- Let's have something to eat. Great.
0:12:14 > 0:12:17- Having said goodbye to Peredur - for the night...
0:12:17 > 0:12:20- ..I wandered Nice, - admiring the architecture.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24- There's not much more you can do - when you're lost!
0:12:24 > 0:12:27- In the end, I made it - back to my room with a sea view.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33- Another perfect night - on the Riviera.
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0:12:45 > 0:12:48- I was in Nice, - on the French Riviera...
0:12:48 > 0:12:50- ..interviewing Peredur ap Gwynedd.
0:12:50 > 0:12:54- I'd found a place to stay - overlooking the sea...
0:12:54 > 0:12:57- ..in the heart - of the famous English Mile.
0:12:57 > 0:13:01- After a good night's sleep, it - was time to continue my interview.
0:13:05 > 0:13:09- The secret to a successful interview - is in the preparation.
0:13:10 > 0:13:13- Practical - as well as physical preparation.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16- Preparation begins - with a healthy breakfast.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23- After all, breakfast is - the most important meal of the day.
0:13:31 > 0:13:36- Peredur was staying - in the historic quarter of Nice.
0:13:36 > 0:13:39- We agreed to meet - at his appartement...
0:13:39 > 0:13:41- ..the French word for apartment.
0:13:46 > 0:13:51- We returned to the same eatery - before continuing our interview.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55- I heard it only took you a week...
0:13:55 > 0:13:58- ..to learn AC/DC's guitar solos.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01- It was much less than a week.
0:14:01 > 0:14:04- I wouldn't know where to start - if it were me.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09- Did you just listen to them and - practise them over and over again?
0:14:09 > 0:14:12- Yes, I just used my ears.
0:14:12 > 0:14:14- And your guitar. And your fingers!
0:14:15 > 0:14:17- Can you play guitar - with your tongue?
0:14:17 > 0:14:18- Yes, I can.
0:14:18 > 0:14:21- Yes, I can.- - Can you? Doesn't it hurt?
0:14:21 > 0:14:24- No, it's alright. - I can play it with my teeth too.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27- How do you do that?
0:14:27 > 0:14:29- Like that? I want to see that.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- Like that? I want to see that.- - It's a really stupid thing to do.
0:14:32 > 0:14:36- Make a note of that. I have to see - Peredur play guitar with his teeth.
0:14:37 > 0:14:41- I've chipped - a couple of teeth by doing that.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44- It's a really silly thing to do.
0:14:44 > 0:14:46- In which band were you at the time?
0:14:47 > 0:14:48- In every band I've been in.
0:14:49 > 0:14:52- I bet you didn't do it - with Natalie Imbruglia.
0:14:52 > 0:14:58- Yes, I did. I smashed three guitars - on stage when I was with Natalie.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- I'm sure that was - a bit of a contrast to her music...
0:15:02 > 0:15:04- ..or did she like you rocking out?
0:15:04 > 0:15:09- The first time I did it, we were - playing at Sydney's Olympic Stadium.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15- Pink was on after us...
0:15:15 > 0:15:18- ..and then Bon Jovi after Pink.
0:15:18 > 0:15:22- I thought, 'I won't get the chance - to do this again'...
0:15:22 > 0:15:25- ..so at the end of the last song, - a big ending...
0:15:25 > 0:15:28- ..the band and Natalie walked off...
0:15:28 > 0:15:30- ..and I was doing feedback...
0:15:31 > 0:15:35- ..and then I started - whacking it against the monitor...
0:15:35 > 0:15:37- ..and smashed up the guitar.
0:15:37 > 0:15:38- Was it your guitar?
0:15:38 > 0:15:39- Was it your guitar?- - Yes.
0:15:39 > 0:15:43- What does your dedication say - about your personality?
0:15:43 > 0:15:47- When I was at school, - I'd practise eight hours a day.
0:15:47 > 0:15:50- So you didn't go to school then?
0:15:51 > 0:15:54- No, I'd come back from school...
0:15:54 > 0:15:58- ..and practise until about midnight.
0:15:58 > 0:15:59- Every night for years.
0:15:59 > 0:16:01- Every night for years.- - Yes.
0:16:01 > 0:16:05- Do you still have to practise - or does work do that for you?
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- No, - I don't have to do that any more.
0:16:11 > 0:16:16- I got into a lot of trouble - at school because I did no work.
0:16:16 > 0:16:19- I was sent to the headmaster - lots of times.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22- He'd say, "Stop playing guitar."
0:16:22 > 0:16:25- He'd say, "There's no future in it."
0:16:25 > 0:16:27- Basically, that's what he said.
0:16:28 > 0:16:34- That's what my careers' tutor - at school told me too.
0:16:34 > 0:16:36- He said, "There's no point."
0:16:36 > 0:16:41- So your careers' tutor told you you - wouldn't make a living out of it?
0:16:41 > 0:16:44- Someone must've told you - that you could.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- Yes, two people from Aberystwyth, - who used to be in the same band.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53- They both told me - at different times.
0:16:53 > 0:16:57- One of them was Ray Jones - and the other was Myfyr Isaac.
0:16:57 > 0:17:00- Both said - I could make a career out of it.
0:17:00 > 0:17:04- Once they told me that, - it got me thinking.
0:17:04 > 0:17:06- I hadn't thought about it.
0:17:06 > 0:17:10- I was just having fun with it - by being in a band.
0:17:10 > 0:17:12- How old were you at the time?
0:17:12 > 0:17:14- 16.
0:17:14 > 0:17:18- I was 15 when Ray told me that - and 16 when Myf told me.
0:17:18 > 0:17:22- That's why I moved to London.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- If I was going to be - a professional musician...
0:17:25 > 0:17:30- ..it was the place to be because it - was the heart of the music industry.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34- It was one of the best places - to be in the world...
0:17:34 > 0:17:38- ..other than - Los Angeles, Nashville, New York.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40- You're obviously very fit.
0:17:40 > 0:17:44- Does it help you - when you're on stage performing?
0:17:44 > 0:17:50- When I'm not on tour, my neck - is like the neck of a normal person.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54- But after three weeks - of being on stage...
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- ..because I do so much headbanging, - a lump develops.
0:17:59 > 0:18:04- I end up with a headbanging muscle - at the back of my neck.
0:18:04 > 0:18:06- You seem very proud of that too!
0:18:11 > 0:18:15- You live in two extreme worlds.
0:18:15 > 0:18:19- The cycling world - and the rock'n'roll world.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- There must be temptation, - especially with music...
0:18:23 > 0:18:27- ..and all that goes on backstage...
0:18:27 > 0:18:30- ..that could lead you astray.
0:18:30 > 0:18:32- I've seen lots of bands...
0:18:32 > 0:18:35- ..who overdo it.
0:18:35 > 0:18:39- With most of them, you can tell - they're not going to last.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43- A lot of them...
0:18:44 > 0:18:49- ..are more interested in - that side of things than the music.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53- Once that becomes the case...
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- ..the music dies.
0:18:56 > 0:19:01- Do you think that alcohol and drugs - kill the creativity?
0:19:01 > 0:19:05- I think they do, yes, - if you do too much of them.
0:19:06 > 0:19:07- The odd thing is...
0:19:08 > 0:19:11- ..the real rock'n'roll stars...
0:19:11 > 0:19:13- ..behave themselves.
0:19:13 > 0:19:17- The ones who don't behave - are the ones who haven't made it.
0:19:17 > 0:19:22- The real stars behave themselves.
0:19:23 > 0:19:25- And they treat everyone well.
0:19:25 > 0:19:26- Yes.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30- Are there things you've done - that still make you cringe?
0:19:31 > 0:19:33- I threw up on stage once.
0:19:33 > 0:19:35- I think I was playing with Dom.
0:19:35 > 0:19:40- We were in one of the pubs - in Cardiff the night before.
0:19:43 > 0:19:48- A woman came around selling mussels, - whelks and cockles...
0:19:48 > 0:19:52- ..so I bought a pack - and ate the lot.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55- Actually, I ate two packs.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58- I felt really ill the day after.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02- I played the first chord...
0:20:02 > 0:20:04- ..on stage in...
0:20:05 > 0:20:07- ..Lampeter University.
0:20:08 > 0:20:09- Did you carry on playing?
0:20:09 > 0:20:11- Did you carry on playing?- - Yes. I was fine after I vomited.
0:20:11 > 0:20:13- Better out than in!
0:20:15 > 0:20:18- With the hubbub of - the Nicoise backstreets below...
0:20:19 > 0:20:23- ..I decided to ask Peredur - about living the rock'n'roll dream.
0:20:26 > 0:20:30- You've always been in bands.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33- Did you start them - or did people ask you to join?
0:20:34 > 0:20:35- Would you start your own band?
0:20:35 > 0:20:38- Would you start your own band?- - No. I wouldn't want to.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40- It's too much hassle.
0:20:40 > 0:20:41- Why is it too much hassle?
0:20:41 > 0:20:43- Why is it too much hassle?- - It's too much work.
0:20:44 > 0:20:46- You never know...
0:20:47 > 0:20:51- Look, if you start a band and say, - "I want you, you, you...
0:20:52 > 0:20:56- "..and we'll play so-and-so, - do small gigs," that's bullshit.
0:20:57 > 0:21:01- Sorry, that's complete nonsense...
0:21:01 > 0:21:03- ..because...
0:21:03 > 0:21:08- ..you don't know what's going to be - popular in three years' time.
0:21:08 > 0:21:13- The best way to do it is join a band - that's already starting to make it.
0:21:13 > 0:21:17- It's not rocket science. - That's what you do.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21- Get others to do all the hard work - and then dive in and help them.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25- No, I do the hard work with them.
0:21:25 > 0:21:30- Once you've worked out that a band - is going to be popular...
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- It's interesting because it's - a different kind of ego, isn't it?
0:21:35 > 0:21:39- You must enjoy the attention you get - from playing guitar...
0:21:40 > 0:21:43- ..but not the attention - of being a star?
0:21:44 > 0:21:46- Yes. Well, it's a job too.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49- I'm not going to start a band...
0:21:49 > 0:21:54- ..if I'm not sure they'll - be popular in three years' time...
0:21:54 > 0:21:58- ..because I want to make a living, - you know?
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- I need to eat. It's a job.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- Do you think - that stems from a background...
0:22:04 > 0:22:08- ..of going to college, though - you claim it didn't help you...
0:22:08 > 0:22:11- ..that's taught you - to regard it as profession...
0:22:11 > 0:22:14- ..rather than a rock'n'roll dream?
0:22:14 > 0:22:17- It's always been a profession - for me.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21- I've never had pipe dreams...
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- ..of living the rock'n'roll dream.
0:22:25 > 0:22:30- It's a career, - and that's what it's always been.
0:22:30 > 0:22:35- Even when you're there with Pendulum - and 100,000 people are going nuts...
0:22:35 > 0:22:40- ..in the back of your mind, it's - job done rather than 'I'm the best?'
0:22:40 > 0:22:44- Yes. You walk off stage and - you've done your work for the day.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48- You move on to the next gig - and do it all over again.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51- Is that why you don't want to - form your own band?
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- You want to avoid - that way of thinking?
0:22:55 > 0:22:59- That you're not a star - and your music isn't successful?
0:22:59 > 0:23:02- Are you scared, maybe? - Or are you just sensible?
0:23:03 > 0:23:06- I'm sensible. - I know what's going to happen.
0:23:06 > 0:23:11- No-one can predict which bands will - be popular in three years' time.
0:23:11 > 0:23:13- It can't be done.
0:23:13 > 0:23:16- If you picked up - a copy of NME three years ago...
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- ..most of the bands - would've either split up...
0:23:20 > 0:23:22- ..or lost their deals.
0:23:23 > 0:23:28- Nearly all the acts - on The X Factor...
0:23:28 > 0:23:33- ..will be dropped by their - record company in three years' time.
0:23:34 > 0:23:38- Nice is one of the most - sophisticated French cities.
0:23:38 > 0:23:41- It's one of Europe's - most elegant places.
0:23:41 > 0:23:45- This is also where Welsh guitarists - come to cycle in the giant Alps.
0:23:46 > 0:23:51- The next time we meet Peredur, he's - in a totally different environment.
0:23:51 > 0:23:53- Here's a local history fact.
0:23:54 > 0:23:58- Since we've been here, interviewing - guitarist Peredur ap Gwynedd...
0:23:58 > 0:24:01- ..they've renamed this corner - Le Jardin du Mort.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04- The place where nothing grows.
0:24:08 > 0:24:08- .
0:24:11 > 0:24:11- *
0:24:11 > 0:24:15- After Nice and the Alps, where next - for guitarist Peredur ap Gwynedd?
0:24:15 > 0:24:20- Llandyrnog village hall, of course, - to meet beatboxer Ed Holden...
0:24:20 > 0:24:25- ..to perform the history of the - Welsh music scene in three minutes.
0:24:29 > 0:24:33- How did you become a member of - Pendulum? Did you have to audition?
0:24:34 > 0:24:37- No. They were working - on their first album.
0:24:37 > 0:24:42- At the time, they were signed to a - small label called Breakbeat Kaos.
0:24:42 > 0:24:46- The person who owns the label - is called DJ Fresh.
0:24:46 > 0:24:49- He produces his own stuff too.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52- I worked with him - more than 10 years ago.
0:24:53 > 0:24:55- I played guitar on his stuff.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59- They wanted a guitar on one of - their tracks off the album.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02- Fresh said to them...
0:25:03 > 0:25:07- .."Go and phone Peredur and - he'll come up to record with you."
0:25:07 > 0:25:11- I went up - and recorded this acoustic song.
0:25:14 > 0:25:19- I forgot about it after that. - They paid me. It was just a session.
0:25:19 > 0:25:24- About a year later, I heard - the record had sold 300,000 copies.
0:25:25 > 0:25:27- I thought, crikey!
0:25:27 > 0:25:30- That was - just in the drum'n'bass world.
0:25:34 > 0:25:35- They phoned me again...
0:25:36 > 0:25:39- ..and asked if I'd like to be - in Pendulum's live band.
0:25:39 > 0:25:43- I said, "Yeah, alright then."
0:25:43 > 0:25:46- We performed our first live gig...
0:25:46 > 0:25:50- ..and then they asked me - to be a full-time band member.
0:25:51 > 0:25:53- So that's what I did.
0:25:53 > 0:25:56- What do you mean, they asked you? - Did they sit you down?
0:25:56 > 0:26:01- They just asked me, "Do you - want to be a member of the band?"
0:26:01 > 0:26:03- I said, "Yes, I do."
0:26:03 > 0:26:07- So you recorded one song with them, - became a part of the live band...
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- ..and they offer you - a job in the band.
0:26:10 > 0:26:14- Did you know that - these lads were going to do alright?
0:26:14 > 0:26:20- After I'd heard that the record - had sold more than 300,000 copies...
0:26:20 > 0:26:25- ..something told me - that they were going to be big.
0:26:26 > 0:26:32- So I joined the band before - the recording of the second album.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35- I finished all my session work...
0:26:39 > 0:26:41- ..and joined Pendulum full time.
0:26:42 > 0:26:46- I had lots of gigs, but - I turned down a lot of big stuff...
0:26:46 > 0:26:48- ..to join the band.
0:26:48 > 0:26:52- I'd done session work for years, - so I needed a change.
0:26:54 > 0:26:56- It was a change for the best.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59- I was very lucky.
0:27:00 > 0:27:04- It could've gone - completely the other way.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08- What was it about the music - that attracted you?
0:27:08 > 0:27:13- On paper, the fusion of drum'n'bass - and rock sounds dreadful.
0:27:14 > 0:27:16- It was very exciting.
0:27:17 > 0:27:21- The band - had an exciting sound anyway...
0:27:21 > 0:27:24- ..and it was something - I wanted to play.
0:27:24 > 0:27:29- I hadn't played rock music - in a long time - headbangy stuff.
0:27:29 > 0:27:31- I'd been doing pop stuff.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34- I thought it was time...
0:27:34 > 0:27:36- ..to do more heavy stuff.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40- When they asked us - to play the Download Festival...
0:27:41 > 0:27:44- ..a metal festival - for the first time...
0:27:44 > 0:27:48- ..I was a bit shocked because - I thought we were a dance band.
0:27:49 > 0:27:51- We turned up...
0:27:52 > 0:27:55- ..and it was one of - the best gigs I'd ever done.
0:27:55 > 0:27:59- Seeing so many people in front of us - at three in the afternoon.
0:28:00 > 0:28:03- There were 40,000 people there. - We were on the second stage.
0:28:03 > 0:28:08- I could see people coming from - the main stage to watch us.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11- I thought, - 'Something's happening here.'
0:28:13 > 0:28:18- The second album - was about to be released...
0:28:18 > 0:28:22- ..and we were all - looking at each other going...
0:28:22 > 0:28:24- ..'This is going to be nuts.'
0:28:24 > 0:28:28- It went totally nuts. - It was exponential after that.
0:28:29 > 0:28:32- Luckily, we did - a lot of festivals after that...
0:28:33 > 0:28:36- ..all over Europe, - and the entire world.
0:28:36 > 0:28:38- We did a lot of them.
0:28:38 > 0:28:41- We did the dance festivals, - rock festivals...
0:28:41 > 0:28:44- ..and pop festivals - like V and Glastonbury.
0:28:45 > 0:28:49- We're one of those crossover bands - that can do each of the festivals.
0:28:49 > 0:28:54- We were doing - about 40 or 50 every summer.
0:28:56 > 0:28:58- I think we did - about 60 one summer...
0:28:59 > 0:29:01- ..all over the world.
0:29:01 > 0:29:05- Pendulum's popularity was growing, - so how did that feel?
0:29:06 > 0:29:10- The first tour, which was low-key...
0:29:10 > 0:29:12- ..was dubbed the toilet tour.
0:29:13 > 0:29:17- Every band does it. - You tour the small venues.
0:29:17 > 0:29:20- The reason - they call it the toilet tour...
0:29:20 > 0:29:23- ..is because - there are no dressing rooms.
0:29:23 > 0:29:27- You change your clothes - or whatever in the toilet.
0:29:27 > 0:29:31- We did six weeks of that...
0:29:31 > 0:29:35- ..and then we finished off - the second album...
0:29:35 > 0:29:37- ..before doing small gigs.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40- The gigs became - bigger and bigger and bigger.
0:29:40 > 0:29:46- We were filling theatres and then - arenas quite quickly after that...
0:29:46 > 0:29:48- ..during our second album.
0:29:49 > 0:29:52- Once you start playing arenas...
0:29:52 > 0:29:54- ..you know you're getting big!
0:29:55 > 0:29:59- I once noticed a sign on the wall - backstage at one of your gigs...
0:29:59 > 0:30:04- ..not only reminding you of - your itinerary but where you were.
0:30:04 > 0:30:08- It said, "You are in Cardiff - in Wales. This is where you are."
0:30:08 > 0:30:12- Is that because everywhere - looks the same after a while?
0:30:13 > 0:30:18- When you're on tour and say - you're in Reykjavik one night...
0:30:18 > 0:30:21- ..and Helsinki the next night...
0:30:22 > 0:30:26- ..and then Stockholm or Oslo...
0:30:27 > 0:30:32- ..or anywhere in Scandinavia, you - don't know where the hell you are.
0:30:32 > 0:30:36- Or anywhere in the world, - especially America...
0:30:36 > 0:30:39- ..because everything's - exactly the same in America.
0:30:39 > 0:30:42- Venues are incredibly homogenised.
0:30:42 > 0:30:45- It's a big help being reminded...
0:30:45 > 0:30:47- ..that, "You are in wherever!"
0:30:48 > 0:30:51- "You're in Milwaukee." Am I?
0:30:51 > 0:30:53- Very good!
0:30:54 > 0:30:56- What's been the highlight so far?
0:30:57 > 0:31:00- There've been a few great moments.
0:31:00 > 0:31:05- That gig in Download was superb - and the two Glastonbury gigs...
0:31:05 > 0:31:08- ..were really, really good.
0:31:08 > 0:31:12- During the 2009 gig - at Glastonbury...
0:31:12 > 0:31:15- ..we had the slot on stage - when the sun goes down.
0:31:15 > 0:31:19- You're on the stage and the sun - goes down and you're like, "Wow!"
0:31:20 > 0:31:21- Thankfully, we got that slot.
0:31:21 > 0:31:23- Thankfully, we got that slot.- - With 100,000 watching you.
0:31:23 > 0:31:25- Something like that, yes.
0:31:25 > 0:31:29- It was a really good day because - Bruce Springsteen was playing...
0:31:30 > 0:31:34- ..directly after us on - the other stage, so I saw him too.
0:31:34 > 0:31:38- Describe the moment - when the second album went to No.1.
0:31:38 > 0:31:39- You were all on the bus...
0:31:39 > 0:31:41- You were all on the bus...- - The third album.
0:31:41 > 0:31:44- Why don't you tell the story?
0:31:44 > 0:31:47- We were in Cardiff - the night before...
0:31:49 > 0:31:53- ..and we got drunk - because we were in Cardiff.
0:31:53 > 0:31:58- We all had headaches...
0:32:00 > 0:32:02- ..and the manager phoned us up...
0:32:02 > 0:32:06- ..and one of the boys in the band - stuck him on speakerphone.
0:32:07 > 0:32:10- He said, "Guess what, guys? - The album's No.1."
0:32:10 > 0:32:15- Everyone was so hungover, - we just went, "Oh, whatever!"
0:32:18 > 0:32:20- Yay! Whoo-hoo!
0:32:20 > 0:32:24- We were all feeling so ill. - We were in Plymouth at the time.
0:32:24 > 0:32:29- We were so ill that day, we didn't - care what number we'd reached.
0:32:29 > 0:32:32- The good thing about that day...
0:32:32 > 0:32:35- ..was that afterwards...
0:32:35 > 0:32:39- ..we realized that - we'd beaten Glee to the No.1 spot.
0:32:40 > 0:32:44- Glee's new album had been released, - so we were very happy about that.
0:32:45 > 0:32:48- Beating Glee was more important - that being No.1?
0:32:48 > 0:32:51- Glee might make a Pendulum episode.
0:32:51 > 0:32:53- A crossover'll happen after that.
0:32:54 > 0:32:59- To travel the world as a musician, - do you need a special skill set?
0:32:59 > 0:33:02- Personal skills, not musical ones.
0:33:02 > 0:33:05- There's only - one skill you need, really...
0:33:05 > 0:33:08- ..and that is not to be a twat.
0:33:08 > 0:33:11- If you're a twat...
0:33:11 > 0:33:14- ..you won't last very long...
0:33:14 > 0:33:16- ..in this job.
0:33:16 > 0:33:20- Show enough respect for others - and you'll be fine.
0:33:20 > 0:33:24- All you need is respect for others - and not to be an idiot.
0:33:24 > 0:33:26- What do you mean by idiot?
0:33:26 > 0:33:30- Anything - you'd hate someone to say...
0:33:30 > 0:33:33- ..or the way they talked to you.
0:33:33 > 0:33:35- If you complain too much...
0:33:40 > 0:33:43- ..or say disrespectful things.
0:33:43 > 0:33:46- You shouldn't say - anything disrespectful.
0:33:49 > 0:33:52- This notion - that musicians trash hotel rooms...
0:33:53 > 0:33:55- ..that doesn't happen - any more, does it?
0:33:56 > 0:33:59- We haven't done it, I don't think. - Hang on.
0:34:01 > 0:34:03- No, we...
0:34:03 > 0:34:06- Pendulum have never... - Actually, yes, we have!
0:34:08 > 0:34:12- I think. Who did that?
0:34:12 > 0:34:15- There's a story to tell - but I can't say!
0:34:17 > 0:34:22- Have you witnessed - someone else doing it?
0:34:22 > 0:34:25- I've seen - many rooms being trashed, yes.
0:34:25 > 0:34:27- So it does happen?
0:34:27 > 0:34:30- Alcohol is the reason for it.
0:34:30 > 0:34:33- It's usually the result of alcohol.
0:34:33 > 0:34:36- I haven't done it myself...
0:34:36 > 0:34:41- ..because if you trash your room, - you have to pay for it.
0:34:41 > 0:34:43- I'd rather not do that.
0:34:44 > 0:34:47- Is that how it works? - Do they put it on the bill?
0:34:47 > 0:34:50- Yes, and it comes out - of your money.
0:34:50 > 0:34:52- The tour pays for it...
0:34:53 > 0:34:57- ..and then it's taken out - of your cut at the end of the tour.
0:34:57 > 0:35:01- Like expenses or something. - Itemised!
0:35:01 > 0:35:05- If you play the guitar - and your nose itches...
0:35:06 > 0:35:08- ..what do you do?
0:35:15 > 0:35:18- You turn it into a rock'n'roll move.
0:35:25 > 0:35:28- The eisteddfod performance - was approaching.
0:35:28 > 0:35:32- This is the point in time when - people ask the big questions...
0:35:33 > 0:35:36- ..like what happens to the Chair - if no-one's worthy?
0:35:36 > 0:35:38- Peredur and Ed Holden...
0:35:38 > 0:35:42- ..were performing the history - of Welsh rock in three minutes.
0:35:42 > 0:35:46- HE BEATBOXES
0:35:46 > 0:35:48- # Gwesty Cymru - Geraint Jarman #
0:36:03 > 0:36:03- .
0:36:06 > 0:36:06- Subtitles
0:36:06 > 0:36:08- Subtitles- - Subtitles
0:36:15 > 0:36:19- Peredur was returning to the studio - of guitarist Myfyr Isaac...
0:36:19 > 0:36:22- ..who opened Peredur's eyes - to the possibilities...
0:36:22 > 0:36:26- ..of sustaining a career - as a professional musician.
0:36:33 > 0:36:37- This was a chance - to look back over the highlights...
0:36:37 > 0:36:40- ..of Peredur ap Gwynedd's - incredible career.
0:36:46 > 0:36:50- When you're on stage, - what's going through your mind?
0:36:51 > 0:36:53- Are you totally focused...?
0:36:54 > 0:36:56- My butt!
0:36:57 > 0:37:02- What goes through your mind on - stage? Does it involve stage craft?
0:37:02 > 0:37:07- I think every Welshman or woman has - learnt the art of being on stage...
0:37:07 > 0:37:11- ..from their school days - or from going to Aelwyd yr Urdd.
0:37:11 > 0:37:15- You have to - look at the audience all the time...
0:37:15 > 0:37:17- ..in order to engage them.
0:37:21 > 0:37:24- That's the only secret, really.
0:37:25 > 0:37:27- You just have to focus - on the audience.
0:37:28 > 0:37:31- So you don't focus - on what your hands are doing?
0:37:31 > 0:37:34- You look down sometimes - and you go like that.
0:37:37 > 0:37:39- Is that part of what you have to do?
0:37:40 > 0:37:44- Do you have a pattern because - I have a pattern when I do stand-up.
0:37:44 > 0:37:48- Left, right and straight ahead. - Left, right, straight ahead.
0:37:48 > 0:37:52- The trick is to look out - and watch the sound man.
0:37:52 > 0:37:56- When you look at the sound man, - everyone in the arena...
0:37:56 > 0:37:58- ..thinks you're looking at them.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02- It's a kind of illusion. - It's a kind of trick.
0:38:02 > 0:38:06- Look at the sound man, everyone - thinks you're looking at them.
0:38:06 > 0:38:08- Ah, right.
0:38:08 > 0:38:11- Some musicians - try to be very professional...
0:38:11 > 0:38:15- ..and indicate to the sound man - to higher or lower the levels.
0:38:16 > 0:38:18- What do you go about that?
0:38:18 > 0:38:22- It goes back to technology. - We've a different system.
0:38:22 > 0:38:24- We control our own sound.
0:38:24 > 0:38:27- We have our own small mixers.
0:38:28 > 0:38:30- Mine is on top of my amp.
0:38:31 > 0:38:33- If I want more drums, - I do it myself.
0:38:33 > 0:38:36- This is relatively new technology.
0:38:36 > 0:38:39- They used to be - just in recording studios...
0:38:39 > 0:38:42- ..but now you can use them live.
0:38:42 > 0:38:44- We're one of the first to use them.
0:38:45 > 0:38:49- If I want more vocals, - or less or more of that...
0:38:49 > 0:38:51- ..I just turn it up or turn it down.
0:38:51 > 0:38:55- It's much easier - than what you just said.
0:38:55 > 0:38:58- Lots of musicians and singers - just go...
0:39:03 > 0:39:05- And the sound man's going, "What?"
0:39:08 > 0:39:12- You mentioned that performing live - is a scientific project...
0:39:12 > 0:39:17- ..where you've created something in - the studio and you recreate it live.
0:39:18 > 0:39:21- The music we produce, - because it's electronic...
0:39:21 > 0:39:27- ..in the studio, we use - a great deal of technology.
0:39:27 > 0:39:31- It's essential - in order to create the sounds.
0:39:31 > 0:39:35- Lots of computers are used...
0:39:35 > 0:39:39- ..so we have to use - the same computers live.
0:39:39 > 0:39:42- It takes a lot of work...
0:39:43 > 0:39:46- ..to transfer all the sounds across.
0:39:46 > 0:39:50- On stage, - we use about 14 computers...
0:39:51 > 0:39:55- ..just to create the sounds - we produce in the studio.
0:39:55 > 0:39:58- If a sound - has been created by a computer...
0:39:58 > 0:40:03- ..do they pass it over and say, "Can - you recreate that with a guitar?"
0:40:03 > 0:40:05- I've an amp beside me on stage...
0:40:06 > 0:40:09- ..but I also use a computer...
0:40:09 > 0:40:12- ..which creates - a more synthetic sound.
0:40:14 > 0:40:19- So I have the traditional sound - of heavy guitar or smooth guitar...
0:40:19 > 0:40:23- ..and then a more synthi sound...
0:40:23 > 0:40:26- ..is created by the computer.
0:40:26 > 0:40:30- Now and again, a few odd sounds - are created by the guitar.
0:40:30 > 0:40:34- Many electronic bands - just push the space bar...
0:40:34 > 0:40:35- ..and pretend they do other stuff.
0:40:35 > 0:40:37- ..and pretend they do other stuff.- - There are lots of them around!
0:40:37 > 0:40:39- I've told you who does that.
0:40:40 > 0:40:42- It's a shock - to hear who does that...
0:40:42 > 0:40:46- ..because you think they're - playing live but they're not.
0:40:47 > 0:40:51- With us, if everyone goes like this, - the music stops...
0:40:51 > 0:40:55- ..apart from the sounds - on the periphery...
0:40:55 > 0:40:57- ..that you can't create.
0:40:57 > 0:41:00- Sound effects and so on.
0:41:00 > 0:41:03- Is that part of Pendulum's appeal...
0:41:03 > 0:41:07- ..the fact that they do that because - they think so much of the music?
0:41:07 > 0:41:11- Yes. That's what we set out to do - from the beginning.
0:41:11 > 0:41:16- What we created in the studio - could be replicated live on stage.
0:41:16 > 0:41:18- And completely live too.
0:41:19 > 0:41:21- Miming is boring.
0:41:21 > 0:41:24- I've done plenty of Top of the Pops - with other people.
0:41:25 > 0:41:27- I've had enough of that.
0:41:27 > 0:41:28- I don't like it.
0:41:28 > 0:41:30- I don't like it.- - Why not?
0:41:30 > 0:41:35- When you're young and you watch - Top of the Pops on television...
0:41:35 > 0:41:38- ..you go, - "I want to do that when I'm older."
0:41:38 > 0:41:41- "No, I want to be - on Top of the Pops now."
0:41:41 > 0:41:44- When you do it for the first time...
0:41:44 > 0:41:47- ..you think, 'This is superb. - I want to do it again.'
0:41:47 > 0:41:52- You do it for the second time and - you think, 'God, this is rubbish!'
0:41:52 > 0:41:57- All you do is hang around all day, - doing nothing in Borehamwood...
0:41:57 > 0:42:00- ..which is north of London.
0:42:00 > 0:42:04- There's nothing there, - so you spend all day in a room...
0:42:04 > 0:42:06- ..which looks like a jail.
0:42:07 > 0:42:11- What's the difference between being - in a band and doing session work?
0:42:11 > 0:42:13- There's a slight difference.
0:42:14 > 0:42:18- You have to be more professional - doing session work...
0:42:19 > 0:42:22- ..because - you're being paid to do something.
0:42:22 > 0:42:26- You have to do it well if - you want to work with them again.
0:42:27 > 0:42:30- In a band, - you can be a little more laid back.
0:42:31 > 0:42:34- But it's also nice - to be professional with a band.
0:42:34 > 0:42:39- If you turn up drunk or if you've - done something silly on stage...
0:42:39 > 0:42:41- ..the audience sees that...
0:42:41 > 0:42:46- ..and probably thinks, - "What an idiot"...
0:42:46 > 0:42:49- ..and may never come - to your gigs again.
0:42:49 > 0:42:51- You have to be professional.
0:42:52 > 0:42:55- Have you turned up for work...
0:42:55 > 0:42:57- ..been paid and gone away...
0:42:57 > 0:43:01- ..only to find they'd found - someone else to do your bit?
0:43:01 > 0:43:02- No.
0:43:02 > 0:43:04- No.- - But it does happen, doesn't it?
0:43:05 > 0:43:06- Yes.
0:43:07 > 0:43:12- I've played on tracks - for certain bands.
0:43:12 > 0:43:17- You think it's them who are playing - on the record but it's not them.
0:43:18 > 0:43:19- Are you willing to tell us who?
0:43:19 > 0:43:21- Are you willing to tell us who?- - No, I'm not allowed.
0:43:21 > 0:43:22- As part of the contract?
0:43:23 > 0:43:27- Do you find it hard playing - the same song over and over again?
0:43:27 > 0:43:29- How do you keep it fresh?
0:43:29 > 0:43:33- I enjoy what I do for a living.
0:43:33 > 0:43:37- I enjoy every gig.
0:43:37 > 0:43:40- I feel lucky to be doing what I do.
0:43:41 > 0:43:44- People have to do jobs they hate.
0:43:44 > 0:43:48- I'm so lucky - that I can do a job I love...
0:43:48 > 0:43:53- ..which is basically making a noise - and showing off every night.
0:43:53 > 0:43:55- I never get bored of that.
0:43:55 > 0:43:58- You were with Natalie Imbruglia - for nine years.
0:43:59 > 0:44:02- The song Torn, - you must've played that...
0:44:02 > 0:44:04- Thousands of times.
0:44:10 > 0:44:12- Yup. Aaarrrgh!!
0:44:15 > 0:44:17- I don't mean it!
0:44:19 > 0:44:22- Each time I play that intro...
0:44:25 > 0:44:27- ..what I hear in my head...
0:44:27 > 0:44:31- ..is lots of people shouting, - going, "Yeah!"
0:44:31 > 0:44:32- And cha-ching!
0:44:32 > 0:44:34- And cha-ching!- - Yes, ka-ching!
0:44:34 > 0:44:36- It gives me a thrill.
0:44:37 > 0:44:41- That's the difference - - you're a session musician.
0:44:41 > 0:44:44- It's a job, - so you're not going to complain.
0:44:44 > 0:44:48- They've asked you to play, - so you're not going to refuse.
0:44:48 > 0:44:51- It's my job. "Play it again." "OK."
0:44:51 > 0:44:53- Play it again!
0:44:54 > 0:44:56- When you've travelled the world...
0:44:57 > 0:45:02- ..the way people have pronounced - your name has been interesting.
0:45:02 > 0:45:05- What have they - called you over the years?
0:45:05 > 0:45:07- Perridrew is a good one.
0:45:07 > 0:45:10- Some people just go, "pfff".
0:45:10 > 0:45:12- They don't even bother.
0:45:13 > 0:45:15- When you're in a band...
0:45:15 > 0:45:19- ..the lead vocalist goes, - "On drums, Johnny Davies."
0:45:20 > 0:45:23- Do they sometimes go, - "And on guitar, eurgh..."
0:45:23 > 0:45:26- Every band I've been in...
0:45:26 > 0:45:30- ..I've taught everyone - to say Peredur ap Gwynedd.
0:45:30 > 0:45:33- Natalie - says Peredur ap Gwynedd fluently.
0:45:33 > 0:45:35- Did she roll her Rs as well?
0:45:35 > 0:45:37- Did she roll her Rs as well?- - Yes, my brother and I...
0:45:37 > 0:45:39- ..taught her some Welsh.
0:45:39 > 0:45:43- When she sees me, she says, "Rwyn - dy garu di, Peredur ap Gwynedd."
0:45:43 > 0:45:45- Thank you very much!
0:45:46 > 0:45:50- I was going to ask you what are - the advantages of being in a band!
0:45:53 > 0:45:56- Lots of young people - want to do what you do.
0:45:56 > 0:45:58- What advice would you give them?
0:45:59 > 0:46:01- I'd tell them to do everything.
0:46:01 > 0:46:04- Anything anyone asks them - to do musically, do it.
0:46:04 > 0:46:09- Join several bands. - If someone asks you to join, do it.
0:46:09 > 0:46:13- If you throw - enough muck at a wall...
0:46:13 > 0:46:15- ..some of it will stick.
0:46:15 > 0:46:17- That's what happened to me.
0:46:17 > 0:46:21- When I was young, - I was in about 10 bands.
0:46:21 > 0:46:24- It was through being - in one of those bands...
0:46:28 > 0:46:31- ..that I've got - to where I am today, you know.
0:46:31 > 0:46:33- Just do everything you can.
0:46:33 > 0:46:36- That's what - I'd tell that young person.
0:46:37 > 0:46:42- My time with guitarist Peredur - ap Gwynedd had come to an end.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44- It was time to say goodbye...
0:46:44 > 0:46:47- ..or as the French would say, - auf wiedersehen!
0:46:48 > 0:46:51- I left Peredur - to his wild rock'n'roll lifestyle.
0:46:51 > 0:46:54- # Propane Nightmares - Pendulum #
0:47:22 > 0:47:24- S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf.
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