Episode 9

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:00:10. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to Thursday's It Takes Two. A lot of love in the air.

:00:17. > :00:25.We have a great line-up. It is Deborah and robin! The high-scoring

:00:25. > :00:28.waltz was up the judges' street, Natalie and Artem are here! And they

:00:29. > :00:36.got loud and wowed the crowd. Abbey Natalie and Artem are here! And they

:00:36. > :00:43.and al-Jacques join us. -- Aljaz join us. And we get a

:00:43. > :00:47.sneaky look at next Saturday's costumes with Vicky Gill! This is

:00:47. > :01:37.Strictly Come Dancing: It Takes Two! Live from London, this is Strictly:

:01:37. > :01:43.It Takes Two. This is your host, Zoe Ball! Hello and welcome to Strictly

:01:43. > :01:49.Come Dancing. It is 48 hours until D-Day, that is Dance Day, but we are

:01:49. > :01:53.in a romantic mood in the studio. A lot of kissing going on there. It is

:01:53. > :01:58.Love Week. Love it! In a moment we are meeting

:01:58. > :02:02.Deborah and Robin but before that, let's have a look at how our

:02:02. > :02:06.celebrities are getting on with the training.

:02:06. > :02:12.I am dancing a 1578 bar. There is a lot going on in the Samba.

:02:12. > :02:19.Thatst way! I just can't get this. It scares the hell out of me. His

:02:19. > :02:22.arms, his posture, his hips. There is a lot of things to work on.

:02:22. > :02:29.arms, his posture, his hips. There I want to feel like I'm improving.

:02:29. > :02:34.That it is something that comes naturally. I should know that by

:02:34. > :02:44.now, it is week three! But the whole hips mall arcy, hmm... It is easy!

:02:44. > :02:48.Got it! We are dancing the waltz. In ballroom you always lead with your

:02:48. > :02:52.heel. In Latin you step on to the ball of your foot. I seem to be

:02:52. > :02:57.really, really good at doing them the wrong way around. Oops! There is

:02:57. > :03:02.a lot more to it than I had realised. It is heels and heads. The

:03:02. > :03:06.legs don't know what they are doing but the brain gets in the way. Then

:03:06. > :03:10.there is a crisis in the mind. Heel, heel... I don't put my legs in

:03:10. > :03:14.there is a crisis in the mind. the right positions and I'm not

:03:14. > :03:25.pivoting correctly it all becomes a bit of knitting after a while. This

:03:25. > :03:30.week, we have a belter it is a patio doble. It is a lot of strutting. One

:03:30. > :03:36.of the worries is the cape work. It is not just a question of hello!

:03:36. > :03:42.There is a technique of flicking it. Dave has to per sonify a Matador.

:03:42. > :03:48.Belly in, hips forward, feet together! And then look natural.

:03:48. > :03:55.Sometimes he is so carried away into the character, he forgets his

:03:55. > :04:00.routine. I have to prove I'm the bull-conquering matador in love with

:04:00. > :04:06.his bull! That sounds wrong! I amen joying the quickstep. Which is a bit

:04:06. > :04:11.wrong. I keep bursting into giggles. There are bits that I find natural,

:04:11. > :04:16.but there are complicated steps in there.

:04:16. > :04:23.The heel! Sorry! I'm too far on the side? ! Getting them in the right

:04:23. > :04:27.order is an issue. Deborah has been working really hard on the frame.

:04:27. > :04:31.The shoulders are down. Moving across the floor well. If it stays

:04:31. > :04:40.like that on Saturday night I will be in heaven. Walk, walk, walk,

:04:40. > :04:46.superb! That's what we want a happy Bobby. They earned the judges'

:04:46. > :04:52.respect but will the quickstep take them higher up the leaderboard it is

:04:52. > :04:55.Deborah and Robin! Hello you gorgeous two some. Well done.

:04:55. > :05:00.Another great dance for you on Saturday. You looked stunny. Our

:05:00. > :05:06.pretty lady in pink. How much did you enjoy it? I loved it. I was

:05:07. > :05:11.terrified, then when I started I thought I would give it my all it

:05:11. > :05:17.could be the last dance. Are you any more confident the

:05:17. > :05:22.second week out? It is hard. It is a weird feeling. I am scared but

:05:22. > :05:28.really, really excited. A feeling I have never felt before. I think I

:05:28. > :05:33.spooked him before the dance. Yeah, you did! He raised his voice

:05:33. > :05:39.to me. That has never happened. How did she spook you? Little bits

:05:39. > :05:44.of the routine were not going right. They had not been going right. I

:05:44. > :05:47.said I would have to take it out. She said you can't take it out. I

:05:48. > :05:53.said I cannot let this happen on live television on Saturday night.

:05:54. > :05:56.So I am taking it out. Then she got it perfectly.

:05:56. > :06:03.So, a little technique you have learned! The judges were saying they

:06:03. > :06:09.love watching you dance. Fiona says she is impressed with you, a dancing

:06:09. > :06:14.Dragon with dignity. Exactly what Strictly is all about. Getting

:06:14. > :06:17.better each week. How lovely.

:06:17. > :06:22.Robin, Len said that Deborah has to concentrate on the technique. Has it

:06:22. > :06:27.happened this week? We are working on the rise and the fall. We have

:06:27. > :06:32.the quickstep. So a lot of foot to foot action. We have been working on

:06:32. > :06:36.that. Deborah has had very sore balls of the feet.

:06:37. > :06:42.They are totally numb now. It does not hurt anymore it is fine.

:06:42. > :06:48.And you equalled the score from the first week, are you hoping to get it

:06:48. > :06:53.up? I was chuffed... Yes! Sorry is the answer! So, OK, well that is

:06:53. > :07:00.this week. Now you came into the training room a few weeks ago, a

:07:00. > :07:04.Dragon entered the training room but it seems that Robin has found a way

:07:04. > :07:11.to tame the feisty business woman. Look at this you are doing, step.

:07:11. > :07:17.No. No. No you are walk, walk, walk, that was awful.

:07:17. > :07:22.Is that you cross? Are you finished? You should just go. I can look at

:07:22. > :07:26.you, you can look at me. No. No, I'm leading. I have tried and tried. I

:07:26. > :07:32.don't think anyone has seen me cross. Do not #k078 off the floor!

:07:32. > :07:35.What am I doing? ! You are going to have a very unhappy Robin on your

:07:35. > :07:43.hands. I am scared now. Go! I have had

:07:43. > :07:47.enough! Sorry. Oh! Sit! Now, that is how to train a dragon! She is very

:07:47. > :07:53.good. Robin, you are horrified? I how to train a dragon! She is very

:07:53. > :07:58.did not realise I was that tough. I am more horrified, my husband has

:07:58. > :08:04.seen me obeying somebody. He has no idea he could do that! So, don't

:08:04. > :08:10.give him any ideas! What challenges have you had with Deborah, Robin?

:08:10. > :08:14.Deborah discovered that the quickstep is quick with lots of

:08:15. > :08:20.steps in it. As it says on the tin. So far in the rehearsal Deborah is

:08:20. > :08:24.starting well, then as we get into the dance, there is a

:08:24. > :08:34.minute-and-a-half of chaos. Don't say chaos! Organised chaos!

:08:34. > :08:39.Thank, babe. Let's listen to the music. This is one of my favourites,

:08:39. > :08:45.Higher and Higher, Jackie Wilson, why did you choose this one? I am

:08:45. > :08:50.not a smoochy person it was a song that my husband and I when we met it

:08:50. > :08:56.is a joyous song. It is a lovely song. It is about happiness joy,

:08:56. > :09:03.life. That's what I chose it. Good luck, it will be better than

:09:03. > :09:08.organised chaos. Don't say that on tooif telly! Don't look sheepish

:09:08. > :09:14.now! Back to the training room to see how Sophie, Mark and Natalie are

:09:14. > :09:18.shaping up for Saturday's passionate performances.

:09:18. > :09:24.This week I have a Samba. It is notoriously hard! Yes it is a tricky

:09:24. > :09:29.one, but it can be done. It has to feel effortless and fun

:09:29. > :09:34.and fiery. So that's my job to try to bring all

:09:34. > :09:39.of that to the dance this week. I believe in Sophie. She has talent.

:09:39. > :09:44.She has the right attitude. This is my first Latin number, so

:09:45. > :09:49.let's see what happens. We can deliver what we are starting to

:09:49. > :09:53.deliver nour, if that stays as it is, come Saturday, I will be a happy

:09:53. > :10:00.man. We are dancing the American Smooth.

:10:00. > :10:06.It all about control, the hold, and making it smooth. I thought it would

:10:06. > :10:13.be easy it is not. He is struggling with a few steps.

:10:13. > :10:16.I have it. We are a tad more serious... It is such a graceful

:10:16. > :10:23.dance. It would be a shame to just do

:10:23. > :10:28.comedy, comedy, comedy. We wanted to look a little more classy. Open up a

:10:28. > :10:31.different side of Mark. I hope that people enjoy the

:10:31. > :10:36.routine. We are dancing the rumba. We have a

:10:36. > :10:42.daunting task ahead of us it is a lot about hip action, footwork and

:10:42. > :10:48.to get the fluidity of the movement. At the moment I am a bit rigid.

:10:48. > :10:55.Rumba is a slow dance. The slower the dance, the more technical it is.

:10:55. > :11:01.So, a bit of pressure this week. I am somebody that gets tense

:11:01. > :11:05.quickly. I don't know what I'm doing! I need to relax into it a

:11:05. > :11:12.little more. Stop panicking. There is a lot to panic about, that is the

:11:13. > :11:15.problem! Don't panic! They are currently the top of the

:11:15. > :11:21.leaderboard. They are hoping that the rumba will keep them up there.

:11:21. > :11:26.Natalie and Artem are here. Welcome. Welcome. Week two, you are on the

:11:26. > :11:29.top spot. Craig said you were breathtaking, you must be feeling

:11:29. > :11:34.good, Natalie? It was an amazing night. We really enjoyed dancing the

:11:34. > :11:39.waltz together, I think. There was such a beautiful song it made it

:11:39. > :11:42.easier. It was lovely. I had a great night.

:11:42. > :11:46.Did you critic your neck with the incredible head rolls you did? They

:11:46. > :11:51.were stunning! I was warm by then. We had rolled a few times by that

:11:51. > :11:59.time of the day. And Artem, I mean being top dogs so

:11:59. > :12:04.early on at the competition, does it add pressure? I don't even want to

:12:04. > :12:10.-- want to think about it. It is scary. This week we are doing the

:12:10. > :12:16.rumba... And... It is challenging. OK. We will get tonne that. The

:12:16. > :12:21.judges picked up on your great ability to tell the story of a dance

:12:21. > :12:26.throughout. I know that Bruno was getting poetic, as he does. Has your

:12:26. > :12:29.acting training helped with that, do you think? I think it is really

:12:29. > :12:33.important to tell a story in a dance. It is something that I

:12:33. > :12:38.relish. So, I am lucky that I get to chance

:12:38. > :12:43.to do that on this show. I am hoping that that can kind of

:12:43. > :12:54.help to cover mistakes that I makes a well! What mistakes! ? Are a few.

:12:54. > :13:01.I should say, you glazed over with that, like, wow it is so beautiful!

:13:01. > :13:09.Did I? Maybe a little! A great comment from the judge, Len was

:13:09. > :13:15.really impressed with the routine. Does Natalie help you? Do you help

:13:15. > :13:19.me with the dance? Absolutely! She was with me all the way.

:13:19. > :13:20.You are the boss in charge? Absolutely.

:13:20. > :13:25.Don't mess with him. The training is Absolutely.

:13:25. > :13:30.paying off, but we have spotted that Natalie does not find it easy to

:13:30. > :13:37.focus on the task in hand. Look at this.

:13:37. > :13:47.This week we have... That is really funny! One...

:13:47. > :13:59.LAUGHTER REPORTER: How does it feel?

:13:59. > :14:03.LAUGHTER Right!

:14:03. > :14:08.LAUGHTER I'm really sorry!

:14:08. > :14:17.REPORTER: OK, take a moment. OK. One more time.

:14:17. > :14:23.I don't know what's gotten into me? ! She is off again.

:14:23. > :14:27.It is like when someone laughs in assembly and they get cross with

:14:27. > :14:33.you? ! Yes. This week you are doing the rumba. I

:14:33. > :14:37.hear it is not your favourite. Why not? I will enjoy it on Saturday it

:14:37. > :14:42.is a beautiful dance. It will be the death of me, I think.

:14:42. > :14:48.Really, it is that difficult? Let's listen to the music. You are dancing

:14:48. > :14:53.to Rihanna. Come on. Oh, I think this is going

:14:53. > :15:00.to be great. Tell me about the slippery move? The slithering one,

:15:00. > :15:05.the snake. Oh, yes, there is one. It is really exciting. There are lots

:15:05. > :15:10.of things that can go really wrong. Thanks for that.

:15:10. > :15:16.I love the way you say that with a maniac-type laugh and a grin on your

:15:16. > :15:22.face. Good luck with it on Saturday. Artem is hilarious! Best of luck,

:15:22. > :15:26.Natalie and Artem! Back to the training room. Time to see how

:15:26. > :15:31.Rachel, Vanessa and Julian are getting on with their dancing.

:15:31. > :15:37.Stop it, you two! We are dancing the chafr char char. I need to focus and

:15:38. > :15:42.concentrate on being precise, the movements. It is superfast,

:15:42. > :15:46.supersharp. The main thing that Rachel is struggling with is to

:15:46. > :15:49.co-ordinate all of the body parts together. Straight legs, small

:15:49. > :15:55.steppers. I'm getting confused with when to

:15:55. > :16:02.lock your knees and when you are allowed to bend them. I am flinging

:16:02. > :16:06.my legs a bit. There are a lot of things to think about in the

:16:06. > :16:08.cha-cha-cha. Hopefully Rachel will remember them and bring it on the

:16:08. > :16:13.night. I'm dancing the tango. I am finding

:16:13. > :16:19.it very difficult. The dance is so fast. Brutalment I am brutal.

:16:19. > :16:23.I hope that I have the stamina and the fitness to keep up. The tango

:16:23. > :16:28.will be a challenge. I have put in more content into the routine. He is

:16:28. > :16:33.going at full speed like a racehorse, there am I chugging along

:16:33. > :16:36.like a cart horse. She is getting the steps in the wrong place it is a

:16:36. > :16:41.worry. I want to get myself into a place

:16:41. > :16:47.where the tango is my dance. I want to be tango, I don't want to be

:16:47. > :17:02.taggowed! -- be tangoed! I am doing the

:17:02. > :17:06.quickstep. I love it Julian is not quick or light on his feet. Which

:17:06. > :17:12.well have to work on that. It is demanding. Lots of pointy

:17:12. > :17:18.toes, flicks which is hard going. It will be a test for him, for his

:17:18. > :17:24.technique, but on a performance level he will shine. He really love

:17:24. > :17:30.it is. I can see him in sparkle, the head

:17:30. > :17:35.band, love it. So, we have seen the dances, what about the dresses? Here

:17:35. > :17:44.to give us a sneaky peak is Vicky Gill! Can I say incredibly frocks

:17:44. > :17:49.over the weekend. This weekend it is the Love Theme. What can we expect

:17:49. > :17:54.to see? It is a first for Love Week, but it is everywhere. In the

:17:54. > :18:00.screens, in the props. If not anywhere else, it is on the frocks.

:18:00. > :18:05.Walk with me. Over here, there is Natalie's rum ban dress. Look at

:18:05. > :18:11.that. A saucy little number to our lovely lady. The rumba dresses, what

:18:11. > :18:17.colours are they normally? Soft colours. The professional Latin

:18:17. > :18:23.dancers like white, but not everyone can have a white, but Artem

:18:23. > :18:27.requested a pastel colour. So we chose peppermint. So, one shoulder,

:18:27. > :18:32.I like it. We have kept it simple for Natalie.

:18:32. > :18:38.So one shoulder line, a column dress with a high split... So that the

:18:38. > :18:42.legs, the pins can come out. Yes, everything you saw in the vvt

:18:42. > :18:46.it, she can do. I think that Julian will be jealous

:18:46. > :18:50.this week. Will it stay like that? Or dot

:18:51. > :18:52.dresses change through the weeks? They do.

:18:52. > :18:56.Come with us. Look at the lovely ironing board!

:18:56. > :19:10.Come with us. Over here, Pasha and Anna are doing

:19:10. > :19:14.a fox trachlt talk me through, are there any goudies on this week? Not

:19:14. > :19:20.this week. This is a classic colour. There is a lot of pearl detail on

:19:20. > :19:24.the week. Anya had it on in the summer fittings and liked it.

:19:24. > :19:34.I think that she will be confident in the dress.

:19:34. > :19:40.They are beautiful. The ruffles! So, Sophie has asked for something for

:19:40. > :19:45.the Samba, colour? That is exciting. Yes, lots of colours. We are

:19:45. > :19:49.thinking Mardi Gras but Sophie, I loved her eye make-up.

:19:49. > :19:55.The two tonne. It was gold and purple? Gold and purple with maybe

:19:55. > :20:01.some red. I used that as inspiration for the Samba dress. So there is a

:20:01. > :20:05.multi-coloured affair going on. You can see them here. About six or

:20:05. > :20:09.seven. That will be bright. .

:20:09. > :20:16.Yes, so the shapes are running through the body and then covered in

:20:16. > :20:21.crystals. And Fiona is doing a waltz. The

:20:21. > :20:27.music is it is from High Society? Yes, True Love.

:20:27. > :20:34.So, she is Grace Kelly. I think this will suit her, she is

:20:34. > :20:38.truly in love with Anton. In the film, Grace Kelly is wearing

:20:38. > :20:45.champagne. Which we love, but for the TV and for Fiona, we are putting

:20:45. > :20:51.a tuille over the top, that is in burgundy. It is a ballerina length,

:20:51. > :21:02.so lots of legs. And she has amazing legs. Now the

:21:02. > :21:07.boys, this weekend, Dave Myers is doing a pasodoble. I am so excited I

:21:07. > :21:14.cannot breathe. Is there a cape? There will be a cape. I think that

:21:14. > :21:21.Dave is my favourite! You are not allowed favourites, this is the BBC!

:21:21. > :21:24.He is bringing in his biker jacket, I think.

:21:24. > :21:30.Vicky Gill, head of the cos tombs, what an amazing lady she is. Now,

:21:30. > :21:39.let's see how some of our final couples are getting on in training.

:21:39. > :21:42.This week, I am doing the foxtrot. Anya's routine is beautiful.

:21:42. > :21:46.Exquisite. Patrick is going to show a different

:21:46. > :21:50.side of him. It is like I feel he can't wait to start dancing and

:21:50. > :21:55.learning. That was brilliant.

:21:55. > :22:00.Coming to rehearsals after Casualty it is a joy to be up and doing. So

:22:00. > :22:07.there is an excitement about coming to rehearse. Don't look crazy.

:22:07. > :22:13.It is really simple the foxtrot, just like that! This week we are

:22:13. > :22:18.dancing the veen ease waltz. Elegant, soft and graceful but

:22:18. > :22:22.spinney. There is only so much I can take. I explained what worked, what

:22:22. > :22:28.did not. . I just go around three times, I am

:22:28. > :22:35.on the edge of the room with my head spinning.

:22:35. > :22:38.She has to overcome the disiness of the veen ease waltz on Saturday

:22:38. > :22:40.night. I can't bare it.

:22:40. > :22:45.I am worried about it not being I can't bare it.

:22:45. > :22:52.terribly elegant. It could ab-Viennese Whirl with me collapsed

:22:52. > :22:57.on the floor. This This week, I am dancing the rumba, so I have to get

:22:57. > :23:01.sexy. It is notoriously difficult for the Celebrity boys, he needs to

:23:01. > :23:06.sexy. It is notoriously difficult be graceful. He needs to be slow in

:23:06. > :23:11.his action and good in the technique.

:23:11. > :23:15.The rumba is very up close and personal, so difficult in ways but

:23:15. > :23:20.enjoyable on others. personal, so difficult in ways but

:23:20. > :23:25.It is difficult cult to get up close and personal it will be challenging.

:23:25. > :23:30.Putting that behind me, I hope I will be OK on the night.

:23:30. > :23:34.This week it is Love Week. I am happy with the jive. I feel more

:23:34. > :23:40.comfortable with. It is energetic and fast. Hopefully I get this one

:23:40. > :23:45.right. I feel like I will fall over. The jive is the fastest dance that

:23:46. > :23:50.we do. It is hard to learn them and do them well. There is a lot of

:23:50. > :23:54.kicks, swinging, we are going to make sure that we leave no stones

:23:54. > :23:59.unturned. The least I don't I have to think

:23:59. > :24:05.about being sexy, what is a great, fun energy gettic dance. Yes, just

:24:05. > :24:17.like that! They are looking good in the training room. Even better on

:24:17. > :24:21.the sofa. It is Abbey and jazz. -- Aljaz.

:24:21. > :24:25.A great score on Saturday night but you looked gutted, what had gone

:24:25. > :24:30.wrong? I missed the first step. It threw me for the whole dance. I

:24:31. > :24:37.didn't have a cob on. I was just so upset. I had a great dress run. Then

:24:37. > :24:41.I thought, why did I do that? I felt awful.

:24:41. > :24:48.Poor Aljaz had been working his guts off with me. Then I missed it, the

:24:48. > :24:54.step, I messed it all up. But that is the thing for you, you

:24:54. > :24:57.feel like your world has collapsed. I cannot look at it. It is

:24:57. > :25:02.harrowing. Annie from Kent says: She is too

:25:02. > :25:08.tough on herself. It was a great cha-cha-cha, not sure why she

:25:08. > :25:13.apologised at the end. There you go. Do you think she was hard on

:25:13. > :25:18.herself, Aljaz? Yes. It is hard to go from a waltz to a cha-cha-cha. I

:25:18. > :25:24.think that she took the steps, everything was spot on. She missed a

:25:24. > :25:30.little thing. What went through your mind? Did you see her foot go off on

:25:30. > :25:34.the wrong step? What do you do? I just think you have to forget about

:25:34. > :25:38.it and start from scratch. So if you have it in the back of your mind it

:25:38. > :25:43.will ruin the whole thing. So leave it as it is.

:25:43. > :25:51.It is always going to be there. Threat go. Yes, let it go and go on.

:25:51. > :25:54.It is easy for hip to say that. I know.

:25:54. > :25:59.Darcey said you need to learn to trust your partner and relax. Is

:25:59. > :26:04.that going to be easy to do? Do you trust him? God, I trust him. He is

:26:04. > :26:10.the best teacher. I am so happy with him. Amazing. A sensational dancer,

:26:10. > :26:14.but I do need to relax, I think. It is important to have fun with it.

:26:14. > :26:18.We have so much fun all week. So this is building up to the show. So

:26:18. > :26:24.we should have the most fun there. So I will try to do that this week.

:26:24. > :26:29.It is a fine line. You are terrified. Excited but why am I

:26:29. > :26:33.excited? This is terrifying! Now, it may be Love Week but it does seem

:26:33. > :26:43.that the training has not been a bed of roses this week for Abbey.

:26:43. > :26:50.Oh, God! Why do you always drop me! Come on, you need to shout at me

:26:50. > :26:55.more! Shut up! You are annoying me today! It is finished. I hate this

:26:55. > :27:03.bit. No, don't. I do. I hate this dance. I actually

:27:03. > :27:08.hate this one. You can't say you hate cha-cha-cha.

:27:08. > :27:13.I can, I just did. I don't drop you. You do drop me. No, I don't. You do.

:27:13. > :27:23.Great chemistry, hey? ! Brilliant. You do drop me. No, I don't. You do.

:27:23. > :27:29.You make me laugh! Now, the jive, this week it is Love Week, your jive

:27:29. > :27:37.is based on one of your great loves in your life, which is? My city!

:27:37. > :27:46.Liverpool! My family, and I love the Beatles. I got to take Aljaz to meet

:27:46. > :27:50.my family and show him some sights. We had a look at the city, didn't

:27:50. > :27:57.we? We did. What did you think of Liverpool? We

:27:57. > :28:10.went to see the Cavern. We went to see the Mercy! Then we the Merseyy!

:28:10. > :28:13.And I went to the children's hospital, I did some dancing with

:28:13. > :28:19.the kids. I bet that they loved it.

:28:19. > :28:29.I think that your jive may be one of the best dances on Saturday! Let's

:28:29. > :28:37.hear it from Abbey and Aljaz. You are all my favourites! Which

:28:37. > :28:42.football do you support, by the way? Barcelona! Stoke! That's it from all

:28:42. > :28:48.of my guests. Thank you very much to all of them.

:28:48. > :28:54.I am back with Patrick, Anya, plus Ben and Kristina and Ashley and

:28:54. > :29:00.Aliona will be here with the Friday panel it is gooshgsd ladies and

:29:00. > :29:00.gentlemen, Matt Goss,