Episode 5

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:00:35. > :00:39.Good evening welcome to the The Apprentice: You're Fired. What an

:00:39. > :00:45.explosive ending with the help of unseen footage we will discover the

:00:45. > :00:55.secret of the sock and the mystery of the oud. It turns out that Jason

:00:55. > :00:57.

:00:57. > :01:04.isn't the most gifted runner in the world. . Come on, come on.

:01:04. > :01:12.But if that looked effortful, here is Kurt doing sums in his head. That

:01:12. > :01:22.is not six foot. . That is not six foot. 42 sent metres by 72

:01:22. > :01:32.Now to our panel, Lara Morgan, comedian Miles Jupp and Nicki

:01:32. > :01:33.

:01:33. > :01:38.Chapman. Welcome to You're Fired. Tonight, task of a business trip to

:01:39. > :01:44.Dubai left one booted out of the board room in London. Zee, your idea

:01:44. > :01:47.of coming into business will me is to do with international raiding in

:01:47. > :01:54.real estate. You have demonstrated you can't deal internationally. You

:01:54. > :02:03.are to blame for this task, it was out of control, and Zee, you're

:02:03. > :02:08.fired. Thank you Lord Sugar.

:02:08. > :02:18.Please welcome Zeeshaan Shah. APPLAUSE

:02:18. > :02:23.

:02:23. > :02:29.How are you? First Firstly may I say how well you are smelling tonight.

:02:29. > :02:33.It is erock tiff. A big old tree. It was explosive end to the soaped,

:02:33. > :02:39.were you disappointed to be fired? Do you think it was the wrong

:02:39. > :02:44.decision? Yes, I think so, looking back on it I think I had a good

:02:44. > :02:48.task, delivered well in negotiation, got great bargains but the sub-team

:02:49. > :02:56.didn't deliver, came back with one item. You came back with two.We

:02:56. > :03:01.did. Twice as good as them. Half as good as someone who got all four.

:03:01. > :03:06.I am just saying it wasn't an unqualified success. It is a

:03:06. > :03:09.difficult task, you are out there in Dubai, we were driving for bargain,

:03:09. > :03:14.our strategy was a more difficult one and it didn't pay off. We will

:03:14. > :03:18.pick through the bones but there is one thing you fit a template, that

:03:18. > :03:24.happens at least once a season, the classics moment, the candidate who

:03:24. > :03:30.says this task is made for me. And then comes the fall.

:03:30. > :03:36.. You know Dubai.I know it quite well. It is a second home. Hopefully

:03:36. > :03:41.I can use that to my advantage. You can put the map away because I know

:03:41. > :03:48.it like the back of my hand. Seriously. You are not modest, are

:03:48. > :03:58.you? Oud is a local Arabic perfume. I thought you were the expert.

:03:58. > :03:58.

:03:58. > :04:05.is a smell most a rashes use called oud. It did say Egyptian mahogany.

:04:05. > :04:09.It is a scent. Listen, it is a perform. It is spelled differently.

:04:09. > :04:15.No-one wants to smell like a dining table. . I think you put yourself

:04:15. > :04:19.forward as someone who knows-it-all, and clearly you don't know it all.

:04:19. > :04:23.You haven't lived in Dubai but you have worked there, you have lived

:04:23. > :04:27.there for how long. A couple of years. I am not from London. I have

:04:27. > :04:33.lived in London 10, 12 years, I wouldn't know where to buy a falcon

:04:33. > :04:38.hood in London. By the way can I say how you, don't you want to stay in a

:04:38. > :04:44.hotel in which every room has a hat for a bird. I am sick of checking

:04:44. > :04:50.into hotels with a falcon, and do you have a hat for your bird? I

:04:50. > :04:55.thought you supplied hats for the bird! Sorry, back to that in a

:04:55. > :05:01.second. But I wouldn't know where to go. Obviously you knew more than

:05:01. > :05:06.they did. Yes,But that doesn't mean you know everything. I think my

:05:06. > :05:10.knowledge of Dubai worked against me. I knew how to get round and

:05:10. > :05:15.where different places are, but living in Dubai I have never gone

:05:15. > :05:21.looking for oud or a falcon hood so I don't know how much advantage the

:05:21. > :05:26.knowledge was. You would have to say it wasn't a huge advantage. Lara.

:05:26. > :05:31.This is your, the company you set up, the supplying of quality goods

:05:32. > :05:35.to quality hotel, where did it all go wrong? I mean, you have said it,

:05:35. > :05:41.I know Dubai by the back of your hand was a death blow from the

:05:41. > :05:47.outset. The put away your maps added to it. Frankly the response of

:05:47. > :05:52.sub-team Leah, who you immediately disenfranchised, a and you even

:05:52. > :05:56.referred as her, you dictated from the outSethed set you had the

:05:56. > :06:01.answer, and it was your fault, they, if you like, were fighting against

:06:01. > :06:05.this flow of I know, I know, and I think you shot yourself in the foot,

:06:05. > :06:08.I mean the flag issue wasn't your fault, I thought you handled that

:06:08. > :06:14.really well when you went outside and said it is not the end of the

:06:14. > :06:21.world. You have to keep positive. . You were killing yourself from the

:06:21. > :06:27.start. Miles you lived in Dubai? have lived in Dubai. I know about

:06:27. > :06:33.hotels because I have stolen quite a lot of luxury items from hotels. My

:06:33. > :06:37.house is full of duvets and towels and things. Cheap slippers. Yes, I

:06:37. > :06:43.have been out there. Dubai is not an easy place to do anything in a

:06:43. > :06:46.hurry. Nikki have you worked in Dubai?Dubai? . Have been out a few

:06:46. > :06:50.times. It is difficult to shop. I wouldn't know where to start. As

:06:50. > :06:54.soon as you said we don't need the map, your sub-team probably did,

:06:54. > :06:59.didn't they, to get round. That was the thing, my first impression, I

:06:59. > :07:05.don't think Leah gave you much chance, I thought that was one fair

:07:05. > :07:08.on her but things turned round. You didn't give them anything. You were

:07:08. > :07:14.the project manager but there was someone snapping at your heels from

:07:14. > :07:20.the start. Was he a good team leader. Terrible. I am really good

:07:20. > :07:27.with finance, good with figures. am happy with Zee. I felt I would

:07:27. > :07:34.have done a better job. You assume she was sub-team leader even before

:07:34. > :07:38.I appointed her. I will go to the Mall with my sub-team. Your

:07:38. > :07:44.sub-team. I haven't said anything about a sub-team leader yet. All you

:07:44. > :07:49.did was complain and be a pessimist. Where are you? We changed plan, we

:07:49. > :07:57.are at the Mall. You are better off going to the souk. Stop talking, we

:07:57. > :08:01.doesn't have time. Didn't click it was Leah. . I get along with her,

:08:01. > :08:05.she is nice. On task it is different. Outside it is different,

:08:05. > :08:08.he is a nice girl. But a critical part of this task was the failure of

:08:08. > :08:12.communication between myself and Leah, from the beginning it was like

:08:12. > :08:18.a stand off between me and her. There is a serious allegation with

:08:18. > :08:22.us, with regard to your relationship with Leah and further then, with

:08:22. > :08:26.Natalie about being chauvinistic, talking to Neil on the phone, didn't

:08:26. > :08:31.work well. Not letting Natalie participate in the car. There was a

:08:31. > :08:36.lot of she was trying to get in and you had the phone book? She did have

:08:36. > :08:46.an opportunity to do it... aren't there many examples of how

:08:46. > :08:46.

:08:46. > :08:53.you come across at quite sexist? are there. In this episode? Yes. It

:08:53. > :08:58.was just a bit of a coincidence. LAUGHTER

:08:58. > :09:02.LAUGHTER. . You should have spread your sexism

:09:02. > :09:06.out across the series. The point made in the boardroom, they were

:09:06. > :09:12.saying with Leah, the way she took over, I did give her the rein, I

:09:12. > :09:17.said you can. I could have said I have worked with Neil, I know Alex,

:09:17. > :09:26.but I let her be it. Unfortunately in Natalie's case, I have worked

:09:26. > :09:31.with her a couple of time, and, I don't think she was good at doing

:09:31. > :09:35.it. Let us look at the first person you let off the Hook.

:09:35. > :09:40.The. The best thing I did on this task was get the kandura. If you can

:09:40. > :09:44.do it for 60 I will buy it from you, if you can't I be buy it somewhere

:09:44. > :09:49.else. My performance was good. Not bothered about the quality. I think

:09:49. > :09:57.I have shown I am a great negotiator. I am in a very very

:09:57. > :10:05.rush. I am happy. The kandura was the wrong sort. It was modern. So

:10:05. > :10:12.that incurs a fine. . Thank God I never sent you out to get 20 cows

:10:12. > :10:17.you might have come back with cows? The failure of that Seb team, the

:10:17. > :10:24.whole team failed. They failed, they came back with one item, the root of

:10:24. > :10:27.that wuz was the stance that Leah took from the beginning of of

:10:27. > :10:30.opposition to me, they were a negative team the whole way, from

:10:30. > :10:34.the off set they were all about this is wrong, that is wrong, if they had

:10:34. > :10:41.a better attitude I believe they could have done better. Instead of

:10:41. > :10:45.pinning it on that one incident I pinned it on the over overall team.

:10:45. > :10:51.Tough to nail somebody on a stance rather than saying he got that

:10:51. > :10:56.wrong. . She was the deputipm.Is Neil scary. Because you were the

:10:56. > :11:05.leaderpm when the task went wrong, that is your responsibility. Within

:11:05. > :11:14.it there was fail failing but... APPLAUSE

:11:14. > :11:20.That is a fair point, but, but... She is kind of not the first person

:11:20. > :11:26.to make it, so that is why you are here. Neil looked anxious, as if

:11:26. > :11:33.going to Dubai was the worst news, like that was a place where he owes

:11:33. > :11:39.someone a lot of money. He was pal PFI Taiting, had a heavy sweat on

:11:39. > :11:43.all the time. He did mediate, when Leah and Alex were king off, he was

:11:43. > :11:48.the one who said -- kicking off, he said get on with the task and he was

:11:48. > :11:56.good with those. Alex tends to have little rants in the car. He spits

:11:56. > :12:03.his dummy. He gets angry in the back of a car. I think family holidays in

:12:03. > :12:09.Alec's car would be... I am going to get angry with myself. . .

:12:09. > :12:17.Tantrums. I loved him shouting I don't need Viagra, I'm from Wales.

:12:17. > :12:23.As if everybody in Wales walks round in a state of unforced arousele.

:12:23. > :12:29.From Wales, I am. But the classic mistake, probably to some extent the

:12:29. > :12:37.mistakes of the series. How huge was this mistakes? It was the size of

:12:37. > :12:43.Stonehenge which we know to be that it will. This mistake was Kurt's. .

:12:43. > :12:53.You were asked to get a six foot by four foot flag.

:12:53. > :12:53.

:12:54. > :13:02.It is about... 72. 48 by 72. . is not six foot. That is not six

:13:02. > :13:10.foot. 42 centimetres. So who doesn't know the centimetres from inches?

:13:10. > :13:16.You? One foot is 12 centimetres. 12 inches in a foot isn't there. Inches

:13:16. > :13:20.not centimetres. Where is this flag? I would look like a pimple on an

:13:20. > :13:29.elephant. It is like a blooming napkin this thing.

:13:29. > :13:34.APPLAUSE Do you know who I blame for this?

:13:34. > :13:39.Europe. It is the Brussels brewcrats have confused English people like

:13:39. > :13:43.Kurt who don't know centimetres from inches. Did any alarm bells go off

:13:43. > :13:49.then? . In the heat of the moment I was on the phone, making the order,

:13:49. > :13:55.I said it to me and I said it. of you, Natalie heard him saying it

:13:55. > :13:58.you heard him. Kurt made the mistake on the calculations and got

:13:58. > :14:03.something fundamentally wrong whereas Natalie didn't and you chose

:14:03. > :14:07.her to take her in. Is that because her card had been marked? For me,

:14:07. > :14:15.when you go in, taking people into the boardroom, people are tactful

:14:15. > :14:22.about it. I stick to my principles, in business. Tactical, rather than

:14:22. > :14:26.tactful. One thing I would never accuse you of is being tactful.

:14:27. > :14:31.keep it simple and straight and... Do you take the people into the

:14:31. > :14:36.boardroom you don't have the relationship with? No, me and Kurt

:14:36. > :14:39.don't have much of a relationship to be honest, but I saw Natalie as the

:14:39. > :14:43.Weakest Link. You can understand how that mistake was made, in the heat

:14:43. > :14:49.of the moment. I knew if I took Kurt back he could have got fired for

:14:49. > :14:56.that. You wouldn't bring Kurt in because he might have been fired. .

:14:56. > :14:59.He might have got fired for that which I believe wasn't right. It was

:14:59. > :15:09.a mistake anybody could have made. I don't believe he should have been

:15:09. > :15:13.

:15:13. > :15:18.fired for that. But... Here you are. APPLAUSE

:15:18. > :15:26.You made an impression in episode one with your claim to be almost a

:15:26. > :15:30.famous historical figure. . A blorfg there thinks he is Napoleon.

:15:30. > :15:34.Napoleon conquered the world at 32. That is where I am heading. I will

:15:34. > :15:40.be one of the great greats of this generation in business. I will go

:15:40. > :15:46.down in history. People who are met me or know me, that should cherish

:15:46. > :15:50.it, they will know they know someone who did something great. 200 years

:15:51. > :16:00.after I have lived, people will read about me in books.

:16:01. > :16:03.

:16:03. > :16:07.APPLAUSE I was flattered by the artwork. Thank you very much.

:16:07. > :16:12.Definitely the historical vision you have made. You have worked with the

:16:12. > :16:17.PR industry. How does he rate on the scale? You're up there, really. I'd

:16:17. > :16:22.call you talent. I do not think there is a modest bone in your body.

:16:22. > :16:27.But if there is you keep it hidden. Going out there and having true

:16:27. > :16:37.belief, you do need that. There is a fine line between confidence and

:16:37. > :16:40.

:16:40. > :16:45.arrogance. You said you do not take criticism well. And?OK, fine! Are

:16:46. > :16:52.you better now? I have no problem with criticism, just who it comes

:16:52. > :16:56.from. If somebody has credibility in front of me and I respect that

:16:56. > :16:59.person, I'll listen to what they have to say. What happens if you

:16:59. > :17:04.have never met them before? Don't you give them the benefit of the

:17:04. > :17:09.doubt? It is not often that you have not met someone criticising you!

:17:09. > :17:14.meet new people every day in life. We can all take lessons from each

:17:14. > :17:18.other. Do not judge a book by its cover. I am a middle aged woman who

:17:18. > :17:22.knows not very much. You might meet me in the second class tube train

:17:23. > :17:32.and we might have a chat. I might have done OK in my life and you may

:17:32. > :17:36.have missed an opportunity. understand that.

:17:36. > :17:43.You refer to yourself as a middle aged woman. You ranked in the top

:17:43. > :17:53.ten in the triathlon. I am delighted to discover that tube trains may

:17:53. > :17:56.

:17:56. > :18:02.have a first-class! That is something to aspire to. If it comes

:18:02. > :18:07.to criticism, brace yourself for this.

:18:07. > :18:12.Zee, the so-called expert of Dubai, dug his own grave. He was over

:18:12. > :18:18.confident. He brought the wrong people into the boardroom and that

:18:18. > :18:23.angers me. He is a good salesperson but he failed in this task. Frankly

:18:23. > :18:28.I have never worked with someone more incompetent. Absolutely not a

:18:28. > :18:32.clue and what he did not know he made up. I could not go into

:18:32. > :18:42.business with someone who has a lack of knowledge of their own business.

:18:42. > :18:43.

:18:43. > :18:51.That is why I fired him. How was that? I do not agree with it

:18:51. > :18:57.all. But that is their point. there is some tough stuff there.

:18:57. > :19:06.Leah's claim, that is absurd. I'm sure there are a lot more

:19:06. > :19:16.incompetent people than myself in the world! What are your plans now?

:19:16. > :19:16.

:19:16. > :19:21.Staying in international property? have just expanded my business. I am

:19:21. > :19:28.promoting investment in Pakistan. I do a lot of work with the government

:19:28. > :19:35.here and in Pakistan. Promoting investors from the UK. There is a

:19:35. > :19:40.lot of opportunity. I think people like myself who are professional

:19:40. > :19:49.people should dedicate ourselves to a cause bigger than ourselves.

:19:49. > :19:54.to the winning team. And Louisa had to pack just the right thing.

:19:54. > :20:02.People think I'm thick because of the way I look. I'm always smiling

:20:02. > :20:10.and happy and not very serious. Bikinis! I love to have fun. I will

:20:10. > :20:16.take this bikini as well. I really don't think you need your bikini!

:20:17. > :20:26.I want to wear seven inch heels to work I will. I might take this dress

:20:27. > :20:31.

:20:31. > :20:39.in case we have to go to dinner. On the off chance it was the first

:20:39. > :20:47.going to dinner and having a swim task! I love Louisa's world. She is

:20:47. > :20:52.going to have fun. She is quite young. There is something endearing

:20:52. > :20:59.about her. She gives off the image of just smiling. Underneath there is

:20:59. > :21:06.another layer to her. For me she is a real contender. She knows what she

:21:06. > :21:14.is doing underneath. She is shrewd. I like her. She's always encouraging

:21:14. > :21:19.others. She is savvy enough to be making friends around her. She is

:21:19. > :21:29.pretty sharp. Something about that suggested it was not actually her

:21:29. > :21:32.

:21:32. > :21:36.luggage! Miles took on the role of project

:21:36. > :21:44.manager for the first time this week. People feel they know little

:21:44. > :21:48.about him. Maybe he has a secret identity.

:21:48. > :21:54.I think Lord Sugar has been playing the role of board room Batman for

:21:54. > :22:04.long enough now. With me as his partner he can play the role of a

:22:04. > :22:09.

:22:09. > :22:19.corporate Robin. How do you find him? He is pretty

:22:19. > :22:19.

:22:19. > :22:28.smooth. He was a better strategic leader from the outset. He had his

:22:28. > :22:38.team with him. But a poor mistake not asking for the boss, because

:22:38. > :22:39.

:22:39. > :22:48.they got 50% off. The others got 10% off. And Lord Sugar had said it was

:22:48. > :22:54.a negotiating task. Are we going to start a trend of people going up to

:22:54. > :23:03.retail staff and demanding the boss. I watched the Apprentice. I'm not

:23:03. > :23:12.coming out again! I have got stuff to do! He comes across as quite

:23:12. > :23:16.impressive. He is gorgeous!That is not what I asked. I think he was

:23:16. > :23:21.lucky with this task and had a fantastic team. I did not see much

:23:21. > :23:27.leadership in him. I think he was lucky. Beautiful on the eye but what

:23:27. > :23:33.is underneath? Jason, when abroad, very much

:23:33. > :23:41.becomes the archetypal Englishman. Engaging with the locals patiently

:23:41. > :23:50.in English but with what he presumes is their accent.

:23:50. > :23:59.And what material is this? When you buy oud, you buy it how? In one

:23:59. > :24:09.piece. Put a hat on it so it does not see. An eagle, a big bird. You

:24:09. > :24:14.

:24:14. > :24:20.put it on your arm and it flies away.

:24:20. > :24:26.For some reason, I feel I should come to you! There's something

:24:26. > :24:35.charming about him. Some of his mimes are a little too vivid for

:24:35. > :24:41.what is required. But he had those lovely striped pyjamas. He is an

:24:41. > :24:49.archetypal Englishman. Nick Hewer has that type of thing. Like Denholm

:24:50. > :24:56.Elliott in Indiana Jones. The two of them together are a diplomatic

:24:56. > :25:06.incident waiting to happen. That is a show! Jason and Nick Hewer. Just

:25:06. > :25:07.

:25:07. > :25:13.travelling around the world. In matching panama hats. Clearly this

:25:13. > :25:21.randomer who just happened to be shopping and they latched onto him.

:25:21. > :25:31.It was a weird challenge. Explain it to that guy. It is a bird, the bird

:25:31. > :25:39.flies. And then hunts. Then he has to step in, come on, mate, step

:25:39. > :25:49.away. Like the most refined stag weekend! I'm not sure what he brings

:25:49. > :25:50.

:25:50. > :25:58.to it. His negotiation, he had this way of going, oh. They finally got

:25:58. > :26:08.the oud and he said, I was hoping for 300. Oh, my God!The vice consul

:26:08. > :26:09.

:26:09. > :26:16.said three! You cannot offend the British Embassy!

:26:16. > :26:19.You would describe yourself as competitive? You have been there in

:26:19. > :26:26.terms of competition and you have bought the T-shirt.

:26:26. > :26:34.Life is a competition. It is my gym motivation t-shirt. And also a

:26:34. > :26:40.saying. I would rather live like a man. No,

:26:40. > :26:48.I'd rather die like a man. Simplicity is the ultimate

:26:48. > :26:56.sophistication. What are you on about? I do not see players, I see

:26:56. > :26:59.spaces. I do not see players, I see spaces. Like Mohammed Ali said, I

:26:59. > :27:09.hated every day of training but I thought to myself, suffer today and

:27:09. > :27:14.

:27:14. > :27:24.live the rest of your life a champion.

:27:24. > :27:28.

:27:28. > :27:37.We are going to the vote. Was Lord Sugar right to fire him? Yes.

:27:37. > :27:47.the edge of, yes I can do it, yes he was. I'm going to agree. We can

:27:47. > :27:51.

:27:51. > :28:00.throw it out to the room. If you disagree, hold-up hired. It is

:28:00. > :28:10.debatable. I think it is fired! If we can put some positive energy to

:28:10. > :28:10.

:28:10. > :28:18.it, you always get a gift to take away. Something that you sought and

:28:18. > :28:28.yet is actually available. This is oud. An Arabian scent in a mahogany

:28:28. > :28:37.

:28:37. > :28:43.container. And that is standard size! Thank you.

:28:43. > :28:51.Here are your highlights. I am the bling master. He has

:28:51. > :28:59.diamonds in his diamonds. I am a believer in my own power.

:28:59. > :29:09.What my mind can conceive, I can achieve. �0.50 for two pints of

:29:09. > :29:17.

:29:17. > :29:27.milk. He is a good salesman.I am a risk taker. He is a really top guy.

:29:27. > :29:32.

:29:32. > :29:42.Thank you. Signing off. Zeeshaan Shah!

:29:42. > :29:44.

:29:44. > :29:46.That's it for tonight. Thanks to all my guests. If you want more then go

:29:46. > :29:48.to our website at bbc.co.uk/ apprentice for Matt Edmondson's

:29:48. > :29:52.Awkward Conversations with the fired candidates and don't forget to

:29:52. > :29:55.follow us on Twitter and Facebook. Next week, The Apprentice is back on

:29:55. > :30:00.Wednesday night. It's all about corporate away days with a message.

:30:00. > :30:05.But who will get the message to go home? You are going to provide

:30:05. > :30:15.entertainment. If you push me, I will flip and then you do not want

:30:15. > :30:15.

:30:15. > :30:23.to be there. I have been inspired. Voted down. I am not sure what is