0:00:02 > 0:00:03This was mayhem.
0:00:03 > 0:00:04That don't look good.
0:00:04 > 0:00:05It is not rocket science.
0:00:05 > 0:00:07Couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.
0:00:07 > 0:00:09Bloody clueless.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10You're fired.
0:00:10 > 0:00:11You're fired.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13You're fired.
0:00:16 > 0:00:18CHEERING
0:00:24 > 0:00:26Well.
0:00:26 > 0:00:30Good evening and welcome to The Apprentice: You're Fired.
0:00:30 > 0:00:34One of those incredible, once in a blue moon special event shows
0:00:34 > 0:00:36that people will be talking about for ages to come.
0:00:36 > 0:00:40Yes, the almost unthinkable happened, Jason sold a caravan!
0:00:40 > 0:00:44LAUGHTER AND CHEERING
0:00:46 > 0:00:49And in other news...double firing!
0:00:49 > 0:00:50CHEERING
0:00:50 > 0:00:52Yes.
0:00:52 > 0:00:53As two candidates bite the dust,
0:00:53 > 0:00:57we will be looking at why the wheels fell off their Apprentice dreams.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00And then we'll focus on how Jason sold that caravan!
0:01:00 > 0:01:04Let's meet our panel. Caravan entrepreneur Phil Daniels, comedienne Jenny Eclair,
0:01:04 > 0:01:10and Lord Sugar's former global troubleshooter, Claude Littner, welcome to You're Fired.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18Tonight's task of selecting products to sell at the Caravan Show
0:01:18 > 0:01:22led to the project manager failing to sell himself to Lord Sugar.
0:01:22 > 0:01:23Kurt,
0:01:23 > 0:01:27you messed up on this task. OK? So, Kurt,
0:01:27 > 0:01:29you're fired.
0:01:35 > 0:01:38Please welcome Kurt Wilson.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41CHEERING
0:01:51 > 0:01:54Kurt, are you disappointed?
0:01:54 > 0:01:58I honestly did think I was capable of winning, and even up to
0:01:58 > 0:02:00the point where I got fired, I thought I was in with a chance.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02Really?
0:02:02 > 0:02:03Up until that moment?
0:02:03 > 0:02:06Well, I knew when I was into the boardroom that I was up against it.
0:02:06 > 0:02:09I had an idea, well I had more than an idea, that we haven't sold any
0:02:09 > 0:02:11and that I was going to be up against it.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13I was disappointed, but at the same time,
0:02:13 > 0:02:16I went out on something that I controlled, and I took a gamble on.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18- And for that, I'm quite happy. - OK, fair enough.
0:02:18 > 0:02:21Let's take a look at where it all went wrong.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25Caravan, caravan, caravan, check, check, check!
0:02:25 > 0:02:28- Let's see how old these are now. - Over 50s. Definitely over 50s.
0:02:28 > 0:02:32- You concluded that your target market was 50-year-olds.- Old. Old.
0:02:32 > 0:02:37- Old.- Old.- Old.- Old.- And yet you go and choose this retro thing.
0:02:37 > 0:02:39Why did you do that? Because you liked it?
0:02:39 > 0:02:41We obviously love the product.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44- They are really, really cool. - I think I could live here.
0:02:44 > 0:02:45I like the fridge.
0:02:45 > 0:02:47We love them.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50- Did he put an age on his target market?- 35 to 45...
0:02:50 > 0:02:53- Retro camper.- Retro camper it is.
0:02:53 > 0:02:58£33,000 compared to £1,500 is a bloody disgrace!
0:02:58 > 0:03:02- If I would have picked the right item...- And you haven't!
0:03:02 > 0:03:04I'll say this for you, you're quite...
0:03:04 > 0:03:06I mean, when he came back to you, you went,
0:03:06 > 0:03:08"If I hadn't made that other mistake,
0:03:08 > 0:03:10"then the other mistakes I hadn't made
0:03:10 > 0:03:13"wouldn't have mattered as much." You took it on the chin.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16I knew exactly what I was doing. I took a chance, based on that.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18If I had sold something that was worth more money,
0:03:18 > 0:03:19I could have sold less of them.
0:03:19 > 0:03:21Plus, we were passionate about it
0:03:21 > 0:03:23and I know the other ones would have sold more
0:03:23 > 0:03:26and looking back at it, it's go for the one that sold the most.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29It seems obvious, but there was an opportunity there to take a chance
0:03:29 > 0:03:31and I took it, and it didn't pay off for me. So...
0:03:31 > 0:03:33Tell me a bit about this caravan holiday that you went on
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- that gave you so much insight. - LAUGHTER
0:03:35 > 0:03:38We travelled France for about six weeks
0:03:38 > 0:03:40when I was about eight or nine years old.
0:03:40 > 0:03:42LAUGHTER
0:03:42 > 0:03:45And were you taking notes at the time?
0:03:45 > 0:03:48Were you going, "Old, old..."
0:03:48 > 0:03:50I was chief chemical toilet man.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- Oh, really?- That was my job.
0:03:52 > 0:03:54So I think I had a good experience over there.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56Would you ever go on a caravan holiday again?
0:03:56 > 0:03:58Maybe not for a while.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01Very good. If I can come to you, Phil, by the way.
0:04:01 > 0:04:05Essentially, you're a steel magnate.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07I love the man who you can say, "You're a steel magnate",
0:04:07 > 0:04:09and he goes, "Yeah, yeah, I am."
0:04:09 > 0:04:13Latterly, moved into caravans because you're a caravan enthusiast.
0:04:13 > 0:04:15Did you see any enthusiasm?
0:04:15 > 0:04:18They misjudged the industry?
0:04:18 > 0:04:21The fact you put yourself forward, I was thinking, "This could be really good."
0:04:21 > 0:04:24But you could have sold yourself. You could have got up there
0:04:24 > 0:04:26and made a name for yourself and impressed Lord Sugar.
0:04:26 > 0:04:27That was what you wanted to do?
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- You took it on, and selling it yourself as well in order to impress.- Exactly.
0:04:31 > 0:04:34We'd reached a stage where we'd gone past halfway through it,
0:04:34 > 0:04:36it was time to try to make a name for yourself
0:04:36 > 0:04:38and stand out from the crowd.
0:04:38 > 0:04:41And I couldn't agree with you more. If I had...
0:04:41 > 0:04:42If I'd got it right,
0:04:42 > 0:04:44if I'd picked the right products - which I nearly did -
0:04:44 > 0:04:47then this would have been a completely different ball game. LAUGHTER
0:04:47 > 0:04:50And that's the truth. And I wouldn't be speaking here now.
0:04:50 > 0:04:52Maybe I would have been a lot further along
0:04:52 > 0:04:54in a completely different position.
0:04:54 > 0:04:56You didn't look that interested when you were selling.
0:04:56 > 0:04:58I can see you sat here, smiling now,
0:04:58 > 0:05:00but on the show, you looked really serious and sombre
0:05:00 > 0:05:03and you weren't putting yourself out there looking for a sale.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05Did you think that the sales technique was a bit too laid-back?
0:05:05 > 0:05:08Yeah, yeah. And you need that killer instinct.
0:05:08 > 0:05:09You can't let them go off the stand.
0:05:09 > 0:05:11You let too many people go, from what we saw.
0:05:11 > 0:05:12I wouldn't agree with that.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15I don't think the people were there who were the type of people to buy it
0:05:15 > 0:05:16and that's the mistake I made.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19I wouldn't say that we let people go, by any stretch of imagination, no.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21Jenny, are you a caravan fan?
0:05:21 > 0:05:24Well, anybody who's experienced Sani Lav splashback
0:05:24 > 0:05:27will always view the caravan with caution.
0:05:27 > 0:05:29But yes, as a child, I did caravan.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32And my parents had the smallest caravan in the world.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35It was called a Sprite 400, because it was designed for sprites.
0:05:37 > 0:05:41But I understood why you went for the retro camper van
0:05:41 > 0:05:43- because they're fabulous. - They do look great, don't they?
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- They are fabulous. They really are. - I'm 53 and I quite...
0:05:47 > 0:05:51I can see myself in a retro camper van quite easily.
0:05:51 > 0:05:53Claude, were you... Sales technique as much as...?
0:05:53 > 0:05:56I would first like to say that my experience of caravans
0:05:56 > 0:05:57is just being stuck behind them,
0:05:57 > 0:05:59and they're very annoying.
0:05:59 > 0:06:03But as far as the technique, I think you chose the wrong product.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05I think you've admitted to that.
0:06:05 > 0:06:07Your technique of selling was also amiss.
0:06:07 > 0:06:09You showed no enthusiasm
0:06:09 > 0:06:12and I think you made a few little technical hitches along the way,
0:06:12 > 0:06:13which I think did for you.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16Let's take a break from caravans just for a moment
0:06:16 > 0:06:18and revisit some of the earlier tasks.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20Because you've been great in how you got involved
0:06:20 > 0:06:21and the ideas you contributed.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24For example, the design task of four weeks ago.
0:06:24 > 0:06:28The boys' team had a superb victory with Alex's Foldo chair,
0:06:28 > 0:06:31but who knows what heights they could have reached
0:06:31 > 0:06:33had they simply followed your grand vision.
0:06:33 > 0:06:35I've got an idea.
0:06:35 > 0:06:36We have the chair base,
0:06:36 > 0:06:38and then at the bottom would be a barrel
0:06:38 > 0:06:41and then in the top, on which we could put a cover,
0:06:41 > 0:06:43would be areas to recycle our stuff.
0:06:43 > 0:06:44And then underneath each one
0:06:44 > 0:06:46would have a little area to catch that.
0:06:46 > 0:06:50'Particularly horrible idea from Kurt.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52'It was a chair that you sit on, into which you put
0:06:52 > 0:06:54'all your recycling material.'
0:06:54 > 0:06:58Fish bones, tin cans, such and such.
0:06:58 > 0:07:01I personally wouldn't want a recycling thing in my living room.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04I've never come across such a revolting idea.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07APPLAUSE
0:07:11 > 0:07:14A business idea for the future maybe?
0:07:14 > 0:07:17That was a brainstorming event... LAUGHTER
0:07:17 > 0:07:19That wasn't the only idea that I had,
0:07:19 > 0:07:21but that was the one that came to the forefront
0:07:21 > 0:07:23and unfortunately, it wasn't the greatest.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25But I'd like to point out, you don't recycle food
0:07:25 > 0:07:28and it wasn't going in the living room. It was going in the kitchen.
0:07:28 > 0:07:29You're absolutely right.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32It wouldn't have smelled of fish bones, it would have smelled of tin cans.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35- You're right.- Plastic bottles... - Tin cans, which often contain food.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38But no, you're right. This is true, you have to clean them.
0:07:38 > 0:07:41And your recyclers will thank you for that. You're absolutely right.
0:07:41 > 0:07:44- We didn't say it was a composting chair.- No, exactly.
0:07:44 > 0:07:47Surely for caravanning, when space is at such a premium,
0:07:47 > 0:07:49have you considered this as a design for your caravans?
0:07:49 > 0:07:51There is no space for that in a caravan.
0:07:51 > 0:07:55But you've got to put your rubbish somewhere, why not hide it underneath yourself?
0:07:55 > 0:07:57You have a little... On the door, you have a little thing
0:07:57 > 0:07:59- that goes up and you chuck it in. - That's all.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01It's already been prepared.
0:08:01 > 0:08:03OK, of course we couldn't let this moment pass
0:08:03 > 0:08:05without asking you about this,
0:08:05 > 0:08:07which you brought back all the way from Dubai.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09I think this was a magical moment.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:08:17 > 0:08:22At what point when this was produced did you go, "That's not right"?
0:08:22 > 0:08:25As soon as we arrived into the factory when we picked it up,
0:08:25 > 0:08:26I seen it and went, "Oh, no..."
0:08:26 > 0:08:29And did you know what you'd done? Had you worked it out?
0:08:29 > 0:08:32As soon as I went, "I've done inches, I've done inches."
0:08:32 > 0:08:34I can even remember calculating it in the car,
0:08:34 > 0:08:36thinking about people's heights
0:08:36 > 0:08:40and then when we picked it up I thought, "Oh, no. Oh, no."
0:08:40 > 0:08:46- How many centimetres in a foot?- 30. - Yeah. How many pounds in kilogram?
0:08:46 > 0:08:49- 2.2.- See, you've got it, it's all there! Yeah, exactly.
0:08:49 > 0:08:53I do know conversions, I'm not daft. LAUGHTER
0:08:53 > 0:08:55I was under pressure at that point.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- And to be fair, to be fair... - The other two! The other two!
0:08:58 > 0:09:02..I remember at least one of them going, "Yeah that's right, yeah, that's right."
0:09:02 > 0:09:04And then both of them took a step back and went,
0:09:04 > 0:09:05"Oh, I never got involved."
0:09:05 > 0:09:08And then lift and separate. Moved away, clearly your mistake.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10I thought this was fantastic, this is the finest thing ever.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13I thought it was just absolutely glorious. Were you impressed?
0:09:13 > 0:09:16It was a great moment, I mean, it was so stunningly wrong.
0:09:16 > 0:09:18It is a good sign because... Well, it's a simple mistake to make.
0:09:18 > 0:09:21- Come on, in business... - No, I think that's a fatal mistake.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23That could have lost you everything.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25If you were in business and you made that kind of mistake
0:09:25 > 0:09:27and ordered 10,000, 100,000, whatever it is,
0:09:27 > 0:09:28you're out of business.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32And I would have spotted that. In a people carrier driving around Dubai,
0:09:32 > 0:09:35when you've got eight hours to buy stuff - that's why I made the mistake.
0:09:35 > 0:09:37But that's the pressure of business. Sometimes you make mistakes
0:09:37 > 0:09:41- because you're under pressure. But business can be pressure.- Of course.
0:09:41 > 0:09:43Always blame it on jetlag.
0:09:44 > 0:09:45All right, Kurt.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48Brace yourself, Kurt, for comments from Lord Sugar
0:09:48 > 0:09:49and your former colleagues.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53The first lesson of business is to make sure
0:09:53 > 0:09:56that you choose the right product for your potential market,
0:09:56 > 0:09:58and Kurt didn't do that.
0:09:58 > 0:10:01I do think that the one error that's crept in here
0:10:01 > 0:10:04is not really listening enough to the research
0:10:04 > 0:10:05that really did indicate
0:10:05 > 0:10:07the profile of people attending would be more senior.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10Kurt was too busy trying to prove to Lord Sugar,
0:10:10 > 0:10:11"I'm actually a good candidate",
0:10:11 > 0:10:13rather than trying to get the team together
0:10:13 > 0:10:15and ensure we do have a successful win
0:10:15 > 0:10:17with some serious strategy behind us.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20Quite clearly, most of what went wrong with this task
0:10:20 > 0:10:22lies at Kurt's door.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24And that's why Kurt had to go.
0:10:26 > 0:10:28What's your reaction to that?
0:10:28 > 0:10:29Yeah. I think I admitted in the boardroom
0:10:29 > 0:10:31that it was predominantly my fault.
0:10:31 > 0:10:34I knew where I'd made mistakes, I knew where I'd taken a chance.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37And it didn't pay off for me, so, yeah, that was fair.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39But you're continuing with the trade
0:10:39 > 0:10:42that you were going to go to Lord Sugar for investment?
0:10:42 > 0:10:44Sort of, yeah. The existing business I already had
0:10:44 > 0:10:46really exploded in the last couple of months,
0:10:46 > 0:10:49so I'm focused on that and we want to take it even bigger.
0:10:49 > 0:10:52Do you have an interesting story, Phil, of how you started into this?
0:10:52 > 0:10:54Steel, that would be an exciting thing in itself,
0:10:54 > 0:10:58but to go from steel to building caravans, what was the leap for you?
0:10:58 > 0:11:01OK, I caravanned as a child, thoroughly enjoyed it.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04So I owned a steel business I've had for ten years,
0:11:04 > 0:11:06I bought my own caravans, I've had three.
0:11:06 > 0:11:09And baby number three came along, we had three kids,
0:11:09 > 0:11:11and my wife just said, "Phil, these are too claustrophobic.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13"I just feel crammed in, I don't like caravanning.
0:11:13 > 0:11:16"I know you like the fresh air, I know you like caravanning."
0:11:16 > 0:11:20I knew somebody that worked at Thetford, that sells the toilets into the caravan industry,
0:11:20 > 0:11:22and he said, "You know, they do slide-outs in the States."
0:11:22 > 0:11:25So I literally imported one from America with a slide-out
0:11:25 > 0:11:27- and just thought... - Sorry, what's a slide-out?
0:11:27 > 0:11:31You get a seven-foot-six caravan and the whole wall slides out two-and-a-half foot.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33So when you get on site, it becomes ten foot.
0:11:33 > 0:11:34That's not been done in the UK before,
0:11:34 > 0:11:37so I thought, "Here's an opportunity."
0:11:37 > 0:11:39Like a madman, frightened the accountant to death
0:11:39 > 0:11:40and borrowed some money, and off we went.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43- And you manufacture them here? - We do, up in Widnes in the UK.
0:11:43 > 0:11:45How many do you make in a year?
0:11:45 > 0:11:48This year about 150, next year about 400.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51We're the sort of top end, 25 grand, so we're not the cheapest of vans.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54But for the top end, that's quite a decent market share sector.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56And did you look at this guy and go,
0:11:56 > 0:11:59"I've got the steel, you've got the toilets - this could be beautiful"?
0:11:59 > 0:12:00LAUGHTER
0:12:00 > 0:12:02OK. We are going to ask you for your vote.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04Do you think, when faced with those three,
0:12:04 > 0:12:08did Lord Sugar do the right thing? Would you have voted Kurt out?
0:12:08 > 0:12:11- On the performance on there, yes.- Jenny?
0:12:11 > 0:12:15- Yes, I'm very sorry, Kurt, yes, I would.- That's fine.- Claude?
0:12:15 > 0:12:17I'm not so sorry. Yes.
0:12:17 > 0:12:19Always a bitter word from Claude.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21Let's throw that to yourselves.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23If you agree with Lord Sugar, hold up "Fired".
0:12:23 > 0:12:26If you disagree, hold up "Hired".
0:12:27 > 0:12:31Ooh! The red is hurting my eyes.
0:12:31 > 0:12:33Thank you very, very much. OK.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36Now, we always want to give a gift to somebody as they arrive.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- You think it's a flag, don't you? - I've dreamt about it.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42- You dreamt about getting the flag? - Yeah, I've seen this happening. - You really have?
0:12:42 > 0:12:45Are you going to have to dance off the stage with the flag around you?
0:12:45 > 0:12:48No, we're not giving you the flag.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50Oh, no, that would be way too obvious to give you the flag
0:12:50 > 0:12:52while instead we could give you...
0:12:52 > 0:12:55the chair that has...
0:12:55 > 0:12:58LAUGHTER
0:12:58 > 0:13:01CHEERING
0:13:01 > 0:13:04Oh, my... It works! It works beautifully.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06It's comfy and underneath,
0:13:06 > 0:13:11we've actually put chicken bones, banana peel and everything in there.
0:13:11 > 0:13:15- That's not a recycling chair. - I know, of course it's not a recycling chair.
0:13:15 > 0:13:16I know your vision was not...
0:13:16 > 0:13:18But look at it! Clearly this is a prototype.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20We've only just started production,
0:13:20 > 0:13:22we'll iron out those issues as it goes along.
0:13:22 > 0:13:26Congratulations on reaching task seven, Kurt.
0:13:26 > 0:13:27Here are your highlights.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31I'm not full of rubbish. I know exactly what I want to do.
0:13:31 > 0:13:34I want to be someone, I don't want to just be the average Joe.
0:13:34 > 0:13:37If I know I'm right, I can convince everybody else the same.
0:13:37 > 0:13:40Southbank Festival. 10,000 people there.
0:13:40 > 0:13:44- I think the decision to come here was fantastic.- You're completely right.
0:13:44 > 0:13:48- Very good indeed. - His face tells a million stories.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51Grumpy in the mornings, but he's a really, really nice guy.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54Extremely able in a very quiet way.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57Congratulations, everyone! Team Endeavour.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00I'm always looking at the next project and thinking two steps ahead.
0:14:00 > 0:14:04Standing here right now doing nothing isn't good enough.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09- APPLAUSE - Ladies and gentlemen, Kurt Wilson!
0:14:17 > 0:14:20See, normally, we'd be packing up to go home about now.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23But not this week, because Lord Sugar wasn't done.
0:14:23 > 0:14:25Someone else's Apprentice timer had run out.
0:14:25 > 0:14:30Natalie, you've had a hell of a lot of chances in this process
0:14:30 > 0:14:34and you haven't proved yourself to me at all.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37So, Natalie, you're fired.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39Thank you for the opportunity.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45Please welcome Natalie Panayi.
0:14:45 > 0:14:48APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:14:57 > 0:14:59Natalie, it's a pleasure to have you here.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01If it gets too upsetting for you at any stage,
0:15:01 > 0:15:04I'm just going to leave that there.
0:15:04 > 0:15:09I know emotions can get volcanic as it goes along.
0:15:09 > 0:15:13- What's your reaction to the show? - I'm obviously devastated.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16- Absolutely devastated.- Were you gutted? Were you gutted to go out?
0:15:16 > 0:15:20- I was really gutted, I wanted that so much.- Oh, dear.- I wanted it so much.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23Well, listen, it was third time unlucky for you on this task.
0:15:23 > 0:15:25The thing that you wanted was the bike...
0:15:25 > 0:15:26- And the box.- Yes.
0:15:26 > 0:15:28- And you didn't get either. - We didn't.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31Leah was discussing the numbers, and perhaps you might have been...
0:15:31 > 0:15:33It was you that continued.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36Is there anything we could offer if we sold two bikes
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- and we could do something?- No.
0:15:38 > 0:15:40I tell you what I'm confused about,
0:15:40 > 0:15:43why Natalie thinks she could have sold dozens of caravans.
0:15:43 > 0:15:45Well, I'm in recruitment. You've seen the figures.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48Well, so what? What's that got to do with the price of cocoa?
0:15:48 > 0:15:52The retro camper, isn't that a bit young for the over 50s?
0:15:52 > 0:15:54- You're the person who says in hindsight...- No...
0:15:54 > 0:15:57It's a fair comment he makes. I've heard you say, "I did say that.
0:15:57 > 0:15:58"I did think that. I did say that."
0:15:58 > 0:16:01I said, "I've got an interest in fashion." That's my business idea.
0:16:01 > 0:16:05I have to be able to choose things that other people are going to like.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08You have the utmost confidence in yourself, don't you?
0:16:08 > 0:16:10And yet you haven't delivered anything.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16All right, explain to me the "but I work in recruitment"?
0:16:16 > 0:16:18They were two sentences I've never seen.
0:16:18 > 0:16:22"Why do you think you can sell caravans?" "I work in recruitment."
0:16:22 > 0:16:25It was literally two random concepts put together for the first time.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28"Why would you make a great astronaut?" "But I like bananas."
0:16:28 > 0:16:31It was just two things pushed together.
0:16:31 > 0:16:34- Do a lot of the people you recruit need caravans?- No.
0:16:34 > 0:16:38I think where I was going with that is the three most important
0:16:38 > 0:16:41decisions you make in your life - getting married,
0:16:41 > 0:16:46buying a house, changing job. That's kind of where I was going, so...
0:16:46 > 0:16:48I'm consultative, I can talk people into kind of changing jobs,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50so I can sell a caravan.
0:16:52 > 0:16:53It's a big lifestyle thing.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55It's a lot of money you're parting with.
0:16:55 > 0:16:57- It is.- That's kind of where I was going.
0:16:57 > 0:17:00- I don't know if that came across. - No. No.
0:17:00 > 0:17:03You had the seven steps between A and B.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06And you go - phumph! - all the way to B. Therefore caravan.
0:17:06 > 0:17:08What are you? Idiots? You can't see the link here?!
0:17:08 > 0:17:10It's ridiculous, for God's sake.
0:17:10 > 0:17:11What kind of person can sell a caravan?
0:17:13 > 0:17:15Someone hungry, can relate to the customer.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19You need to listen to the time they've been on holiday, caravanning.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21You know, really get involved with customer
0:17:21 > 0:17:22- and make it a personal sale.- Yes.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- You go through the story. - I guess. I guess.
0:17:25 > 0:17:27I get the bit you were linking. It's like recruitment.
0:17:29 > 0:17:31Jenny, will you? Do you...?
0:17:31 > 0:17:33Well, I didn't understand any of the girls most of the time
0:17:33 > 0:17:35because you seemed so cross and bad-tempered.
0:17:35 > 0:17:39I think if you'd worn more comfortable shoes...
0:17:39 > 0:17:43I can't... Honestly, it really made me despair.
0:17:43 > 0:17:44Can you just wear some shoes
0:17:44 > 0:17:48that you can actually walk in and think in at the same time?!
0:17:48 > 0:17:50I don't understand it. I don't get it.
0:17:50 > 0:17:52The farm shop challenge.
0:17:52 > 0:17:56They were particularly vertiginous - is the word I would use.
0:17:56 > 0:17:59They were like you were en pointe for the entire week.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01- And that's not appropriate. - No, no, no.
0:18:01 > 0:18:03But let me just explain.
0:18:03 > 0:18:07They had a thick heel, so the weight was spread more evenly.
0:18:07 > 0:18:11They weren't my most comfortable shoes. I mean, for high shoes.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13So, you didn't pack a pair of pumps?
0:18:13 > 0:18:15I did actually. I did wear one pair of pumps.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16That was for the first task.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19They were uncomfortable because I'm used to wearing heels.
0:18:19 > 0:18:21It's about comfort.
0:18:21 > 0:18:24- I don't come from the same world. - No-one's put those two concepts together.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26I wear heels. It's about comfort.
0:18:26 > 0:18:29I work in recruitment. Caravan. Banana. Astronaut.
0:18:29 > 0:18:33We're making leaps constantly over all this.
0:18:33 > 0:18:35Was it about the passion?
0:18:35 > 0:18:37Was it about the cumulative effect of
0:18:37 > 0:18:39- being in the boardroom a few times? - I do think so.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41And I think, right from the start,
0:18:41 > 0:18:43you were unnecessarily argumentative.
0:18:43 > 0:18:47Whilst Alan Sugar does like someone who stands up for themselves,
0:18:47 > 0:18:50I think you really went overboard and you grated.
0:18:50 > 0:18:51You were very, very vicious.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55And it sounds strange coming from me but, actually, I think
0:18:55 > 0:18:56that you, you just played wrong.
0:18:56 > 0:18:58I think you could have taken
0:18:58 > 0:19:00a more delicate approach and succeeded.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02I don't think that necessarily that was a game.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05I think you get into a situation and you are like,
0:19:05 > 0:19:08"I need to fight for my life here. And this is what I believe in."
0:19:08 > 0:19:10I think maybe I'd been too quiet
0:19:10 > 0:19:14on the tasks and I kind of got to a stage where was like, "Oh, my God!
0:19:14 > 0:19:17"I need to not go now." So...
0:19:17 > 0:19:19We have seen, in the boardroom,
0:19:19 > 0:19:23we've seen two extremes of emotion from you, when you've been in there.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27Being half-Greek, I can be very fiery, sometimes get very angry.
0:19:27 > 0:19:29If people get on the wrong side of me, they feel my wrath.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31Have you a problem working with women?
0:19:31 > 0:19:34I think you are getting a bit carried away now.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36You've been rude to me the whole time. You don't even...
0:19:36 > 0:19:38You look at me as if I'm, I don't know,
0:19:38 > 0:19:41something on the bottom of your shoe and it is disgusting.
0:19:41 > 0:19:42When I'm under pressure,
0:19:42 > 0:19:46if something is not going right and I can't control it, I can cry.
0:19:46 > 0:19:49You said that I didn't have passion. I was devastated.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53Your very last chance. I don't want to see you here again.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58I don't care if it's unfair, it's the truth? Look me in the eyes.
0:19:58 > 0:20:00- This is the truth. - I am looking you in the eyes.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12- Oh, man.- She should have had some plates to smash in the boardroom.
0:20:12 > 0:20:15- Smashing plates.- I would have been happy then.- That look at the end.
0:20:15 > 0:20:19That look at the end. I know, I have seen that look of...
0:20:21 > 0:20:24Just that look of, "I am so angry, I am not even talking to you.
0:20:24 > 0:20:26"I'm that angry at you right now."
0:20:26 > 0:20:29This was in the boardroom but I've seen that look of,
0:20:29 > 0:20:32"You wait until we get back tonight. You just wait.
0:20:32 > 0:20:35"Oh, you are going to pay for this in a huge way."
0:20:35 > 0:20:40- It was vicious. It was crazy. - I know. It's business.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43It's not business. Are you like that in the boardroom?
0:20:43 > 0:20:44- No, not at all.- No.
0:20:44 > 0:20:47All that Northern pragmatism about you, Phil. I don't see you crying.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50- Have you cried in the boardroom? - Never. No.- Ever got a bit of
0:20:50 > 0:20:52steel in your eye? I've got a bit of steel in my eye.
0:20:52 > 0:20:56There's a little bit of a spark just there. Claude, ever cried?
0:20:56 > 0:20:59- I've brought people to tears. - You've brought people to tears?
0:20:59 > 0:21:02That's not what I asked you. Can I ask you, if you've...?
0:21:02 > 0:21:04- No, I can't say that's happened to me.- OK.
0:21:04 > 0:21:06I want to talk about your outdoorsyiness,
0:21:06 > 0:21:07which was quite striking.
0:21:07 > 0:21:11In this one, it was your exciting observations about
0:21:11 > 0:21:14what that plank was in the middle of a rowing boat.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19I still think that that's the table where you put your champagne
0:21:19 > 0:21:22the two... Unless there's only one person in the boat.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24- What kind of rowing trips... - You have the two people there,
0:21:24 > 0:21:26where does the champagne and strawberries go?
0:21:26 > 0:21:30- I thought it went there. - Champagne and strawberries?!
0:21:30 > 0:21:34- And you're rowing and you've got the...- I know the rowing.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37The visit to the outdoors was in the farm shop task in week four,
0:21:37 > 0:21:39when you visited a strange
0:21:39 > 0:21:43and foreign place known as the countryside.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45I'm not an animal person, I've never had pets.
0:21:45 > 0:21:49MOOING
0:21:49 > 0:21:50Oh, my lord! That looks...
0:21:50 > 0:21:52If I run, will they charge?
0:21:52 > 0:21:56- Look at this horse. Um... - What horse?- Dog. No.
0:21:56 > 0:21:59- It's not a horse, it's a cow. - Oh, my God! There's a bull.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01Oh, my God! There's another bull behind you.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04There's one that looks like he's going to charge, Neil. Look behind.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10APPLAUSE
0:22:12 > 0:22:15Do you mind if we test you just to see how you're doing on that?
0:22:15 > 0:22:18Row one, hold up your pictures. The front row there, if you can.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21Row one, hold up your pictures, thank you. What is that?
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- A horse.- That's a horse. That's a number of horses. Fantastic.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27- That's a horse.- Down. Row two. Down. Row two. Where are row two?
0:22:27 > 0:22:30- Oh, dog.- Dog. Great.
0:22:30 > 0:22:32Down with that. Then, finally, now we know
0:22:32 > 0:22:34what they are... They do look different -
0:22:34 > 0:22:37dogs in different shapes and sizes.
0:22:37 > 0:22:41That's what's so tricksy about them. Row three. Show us, row three.
0:22:42 > 0:22:43Cow.
0:22:43 > 0:22:45Yes!
0:22:52 > 0:22:55What I love about you, which is fantastic, you brought these in.
0:22:55 > 0:22:59- We didn't.- No.- Why did you bring these into show me?
0:22:59 > 0:23:02Well, I wanted to show you because I thought...
0:23:02 > 0:23:03These are what I had
0:23:03 > 0:23:08when I was younger and I remember... Look, that's a horse.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11This is a dog which does not look like a dog. And this is a cow
0:23:11 > 0:23:14- which looks like a sheep. So I'm kind of...- Hang on,
0:23:14 > 0:23:16what part of the black-and-whiteness of that?
0:23:16 > 0:23:18- Look at its face.- Its face?
0:23:18 > 0:23:22- It's face.- It looks like a calf, to be honest.
0:23:22 > 0:23:24It may look a bit like a sheep but it's black and white.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27Have you ever seen... "Oh, you're him.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29"He's the black-and-white sheep in the family."
0:23:32 > 0:23:34So that's kind of me saying, you know, I...
0:23:34 > 0:23:37- That this was your only experience of animals?- No.
0:23:40 > 0:23:43You know they're bigger than this? No wonder you were surprised.
0:23:43 > 0:23:47But they're huge. Mine must have been far away.
0:23:49 > 0:23:51We can't put it off any longer,
0:23:51 > 0:23:53but we do have to hear the comments, which are going to be tough,
0:23:53 > 0:23:57but here they are from Lord Sugar and your former colleagues.
0:23:59 > 0:24:02This is the third time that Natalie was in the firing line.
0:24:02 > 0:24:03You get there because, clearly,
0:24:03 > 0:24:07you haven't made any contribution to the tasks.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09Natalie hasn't really shown
0:24:09 > 0:24:13and was also part of the team that didn't get the electric bikes.
0:24:13 > 0:24:16In Wales, we would say Natalie is a bit tup, which is a bit ditzy.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18For example, we were in the boat and she was asking me if
0:24:18 > 0:24:21the plank is actually a table for people to serve themselves from.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24Natalie puts up a great fight in the boardroom
0:24:24 > 0:24:27but I think that she overestimates her abilities,
0:24:27 > 0:24:31that's why she's not the business partner for me, so she had to go.
0:24:33 > 0:24:34Oh...
0:24:34 > 0:24:36What's your reaction to that?
0:24:36 > 0:24:39They're right in what they're saying but I think I'd just like to...
0:24:39 > 0:24:41- Watch this space. - OK, that's fine.
0:24:41 > 0:24:43You're starting off in a business.
0:24:43 > 0:24:45Is the business a fashion business?
0:24:45 > 0:24:49- It's a fashion business, yes. I'm wearing one.- Dresses?
0:24:49 > 0:24:52- Women's dresses, yes.- OK, fine. - So online.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54- Yes, fingers crossed.- OK.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59The winning team did this so easily it's hardly worth analysing,
0:24:59 > 0:25:01except for one thing.
0:25:01 > 0:25:03Jason has come in for some...
0:25:03 > 0:25:05DROWNED OUT BY CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:25:05 > 0:25:09..for some criticism over the last few weeks but he nailed it tonight.
0:25:09 > 0:25:13He nailed it, which was as surprising to us
0:25:13 > 0:25:16as the praise was to him.
0:25:16 > 0:25:20- See just how easy it is to slip in. - I love your style.- Ergonomic.
0:25:20 > 0:25:22Whoo, good word.
0:25:22 > 0:25:23INDISTINCT
0:25:25 > 0:25:28Take care. Take care.
0:25:31 > 0:25:32Phwoar!
0:25:33 > 0:25:36They sold three of the folding campers.
0:25:37 > 0:25:40Can you send Jason back in, please?
0:25:40 > 0:25:42Could you go back into the boardroom, Jason?
0:25:53 > 0:25:56- Don't have such a worried look on your face, Jason.- Sorry.
0:25:56 > 0:26:00I forgot to say one of those sales was down to you. Well done.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02- I hope to keep impressing you.- OK.
0:26:02 > 0:26:04APPLAUSE
0:26:11 > 0:26:14- He's sweet, isn't he?- He's so sweet, such a lovely guy.- I know.
0:26:14 > 0:26:16And the way he walked backwards out of the room as
0:26:16 > 0:26:19if Lord Sugar were the Queen, or something.
0:26:19 > 0:26:21I'm dreadfully sorry. I'm dreadfully sorry.
0:26:21 > 0:26:24I'm dreadfully sorry. I'm so sorry. And back out again.
0:26:24 > 0:26:27Are you impressed with Jason? Were you impressed there?
0:26:27 > 0:26:29I thought he'd sell at the caravan show
0:26:29 > 0:26:31because he is a relational guy and, yeah, I thought
0:26:31 > 0:26:34- direct to an end user in retail he'd sell, and he did.- And you?
0:26:34 > 0:26:36I'd have sacked him on the spot for the teddy bear
0:26:36 > 0:26:41because I have an absolute horror of adult men with large teddy bears.
0:26:41 > 0:26:45Apart from that, I understood why he sold at the caravan exhibition.
0:26:45 > 0:26:48There is a element of it's the right market for him, and that gentle...
0:26:48 > 0:26:51People aren't looking for a hard sell in that situation.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54I just thought he came over beautifully on this task.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57He really came into his own and I think it's great to see him
0:26:57 > 0:26:59perform in a way that he hasn't done before.
0:26:59 > 0:27:00- He was good.- Yes.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03OK. Now for your vote. It's about yourself now.
0:27:03 > 0:27:07Phil, do you think Lord Sugar was right to fire Natalie?
0:27:07 > 0:27:09- Yes.- Yes, you do.
0:27:09 > 0:27:10OK. Jenny?
0:27:10 > 0:27:13- Yes. Yes.- Claude?
0:27:13 > 0:27:16- Reluctantly, yes.- OK. We'll throw it out to the audience.
0:27:16 > 0:27:18If you agree with Lord Sugar, hold up "Fired".
0:27:18 > 0:27:19If you disagree, hold up "Hired".
0:27:21 > 0:27:25There's more green than there was earlier, that you can take from it.
0:27:25 > 0:27:28But generally, pretty much red, I'm afraid, for that.
0:27:28 > 0:27:32Now, as you know on this show, we do like to give a little gift.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34So what we've got you,
0:27:34 > 0:27:37and it's the first of its kind ever in the world, right...
0:27:37 > 0:27:41- OK.- ..it's your invention.- OK. Can I patent it?
0:27:41 > 0:27:42Oh, yeah. It's...
0:27:42 > 0:27:43a boat.
0:27:54 > 0:27:55- I love that!- It's fun. It's...
0:27:55 > 0:27:58It's exactly what people have been crying out for.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00For your champagne, your strawberries,
0:28:00 > 0:28:02when two of you are there. Absolutely.
0:28:02 > 0:28:05- I will deflate that, you can take it home with you.- Thank you so much.
0:28:05 > 0:28:08And do you know the best bit about it? Can we lift it up?
0:28:08 > 0:28:10Can we see it? Look, look, it's got a wheel!
0:28:10 > 0:28:14APPLAUSE
0:28:21 > 0:28:23Natalie, you made it past the halfway mark.
0:28:23 > 0:28:24Here are your highlights.
0:28:24 > 0:28:25PHONE RINGS
0:28:25 > 0:28:28'I've got bags of ambition.' Hello.
0:28:28 > 0:28:32And I want to succeed and I would do what it takes to make it work.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34Oh, my God!
0:28:34 > 0:28:35Oh, my God! I didn't say thank you.
0:28:35 > 0:28:39'I think my secret weapon would be my charm.'
0:28:39 > 0:28:40I use it to get what I want.
0:28:40 > 0:28:43Come and get your milk. £1 milk. Look, there you go.
0:28:43 > 0:28:47You can just pop it down, and pop that up. £80 for you.
0:28:47 > 0:28:49You won't get cheaper than this!
0:28:49 > 0:28:51I'm very fiery.
0:28:52 > 0:28:53I'm definitely ruthless.
0:28:54 > 0:28:57I don't take any crap from anybody.
0:28:57 > 0:28:58And I always get what I want.
0:28:58 > 0:29:00Oh, I love it!
0:29:00 > 0:29:04She's so small and gorgeous but she's got a fire in her belly.
0:29:04 > 0:29:07If it doesn't work out, I'll try a different direction but keep trying.
0:29:07 > 0:29:09Don't give up.
0:29:09 > 0:29:11Ladies and gentlemen, Natalie Panayi.
0:29:16 > 0:29:19Well, what a night that has been.
0:29:19 > 0:29:20That's all we've got time for.
0:29:20 > 0:29:24Thanks to my guests and remember to go to our website at:
0:29:25 > 0:29:29..for loads more clips and Matt Edmondson's awkward conversations.
0:29:29 > 0:29:31Now, next week,
0:29:31 > 0:29:35the candidates have to create an advertising campaign
0:29:35 > 0:29:38for a dating website. But who will catch Lord Sugar's eye
0:29:38 > 0:29:40for all the wrong reasons?
0:29:40 > 0:29:45In the last ten years, the online dating industry has exploded.
0:29:46 > 0:29:48I am a woman. I don't want to go out to a bar
0:29:48 > 0:29:51and sit there and wait for men to come and talk to me.
0:29:51 > 0:29:54- I'd run a mile.- The first time I ever saw a picture of my wife was online.
0:29:54 > 0:29:57- But it wasn't on the dating site. - Some people are gay.
0:29:57 > 0:30:00- Some people are lesbian. - You're going to kiss him.
0:30:00 > 0:30:01Bloody hell, right..
0:30:01 > 0:30:04It was the most disgraceful display of bad manners.
0:30:04 > 0:30:08- I've laid on some expert website designers.- Make a decision.
0:30:09 > 0:30:11Passion, vigour, excitement.
0:30:11 > 0:30:13To be honest, I think it's boring.
0:30:13 > 0:30:14I need you to impress me.
0:30:17 > 0:30:19LAUGHTER
0:30:19 > 0:30:21Total bloody mess.
0:30:22 > 0:30:24They're not even the best bits. I can't wait.
0:30:24 > 0:30:27See you at the same time next Wednesday. Good night.
0:30:27 > 0:30:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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