Jewelry Auction and Frozen Food Challenge

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06'Previously on the Celebrity Apprentice: tensions flared...'

0:00:06 > 0:00:12You told me privately how bad Brande is. Oh, Annie, you didn't...

0:00:12 > 0:00:16'Annie is totally two-faced and you suddenly realise'

0:00:16 > 0:00:19this is such a snake.

0:00:19 > 0:00:25'Back in the boardroom, the teams were tasked with producing a fashion show and auction.'

0:00:25 > 0:00:30My daughter Ivanka has designed a jewellery line which is doing well.

0:00:30 > 0:00:36- 'And arch-rivals Annie and Joan went head-to-head as project managers.' - I'm going to crush you, Joan.

0:00:36 > 0:00:40'Melissa Rivers and Natalie Gulbis selected jewellery for their teams.'

0:00:40 > 0:00:42I'll go with the necklace.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44The earrings.

0:00:44 > 0:00:50- 'But project manager Joan was unhappy with Natalie's choices.' - Some were smaller than we thought.

0:00:50 > 0:00:53They will not present as well.

0:00:53 > 0:00:58'On Team Athena, a clique emerged leaving Melissa feeling alienated.'

0:00:58 > 0:01:02Brande, what you're doing is so smart.

0:01:02 > 0:01:04Those two are...

0:01:04 > 0:01:10- 'While Kotu devised a plan.'- We knew Annie would have heavy hitters. We needed a strategy to beat that.

0:01:10 > 0:01:16So take the cheapest piece we have and buy that with, say, mine and Herschel's combined.

0:01:16 > 0:01:24We're going to pool all our money and go for one inexpensive piece to make a large amount of profit.

0:01:24 > 0:01:28'Struggling to raise money, Natalie upped the ante.'

0:01:28 > 0:01:32There are poker players that would like to beat Annie.

0:01:32 > 0:01:38I wanted to see Annie's reaction to having one of the greatest poker player of all time

0:01:38 > 0:01:44- fundraising for me. - 'To shake things up, Donald Trump called in last year's winner,

0:01:44 > 0:01:46'Piers Morgan.'

0:01:46 > 0:01:52- I appreciate you being here. - Mr Trump, it will be my absolute pleasure.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55There's only one Celebrity Apprentice and that's me.

0:01:55 > 0:02:00'Tonight, as the auction draws near, last year's winner stirs the pot.'

0:02:00 > 0:02:02Who gets thrown under the bus?

0:02:02 > 0:02:07'And before the night is done, two celebrities will be fired.'

0:02:12 > 0:02:15# Money, money, money, money

0:02:15 > 0:02:17# Money

0:02:17 > 0:02:22# Money, money, money, money Money

0:02:22 > 0:02:25# Some people got to have it

0:02:25 > 0:02:27# Yeah, yeah

0:02:27 > 0:02:31# Some people really need it Listen to me y'all

0:02:31 > 0:02:36# Do things, do things, do things Bad things with it

0:02:39 > 0:02:41# Dollar bills y'all, come on

0:02:41 > 0:02:47# That mean, oh mean Mean green

0:02:47 > 0:02:50# Almighty dollar

0:02:50 > 0:02:53# I know that money

0:02:53 > 0:02:58# Give me a nickel, brother Can you spare a dime?

0:02:58 > 0:03:04# Money can drive some people Out of their minds

0:03:06 > 0:03:09# No good, no good, money

0:03:09 > 0:03:12# Money, money, money, money

0:03:12 > 0:03:13# Money! #

0:03:21 > 0:03:25The auction starts at 8.15.

0:03:29 > 0:03:33- You want that before the show? - No, probably after the show.

0:03:33 > 0:03:38- - Absolutely. - Hi, how's it going, guys?- Hello!

0:03:38 > 0:03:43- Piers, hi.- This is Piers Morgan. You may remember him from last year.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45Nice to see other people suffering.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- Piers. - I'm Piers. Good to see you.

0:03:49 > 0:03:53'I walked into the Kotu war room expecting to see'

0:03:53 > 0:04:00an absolute hive of activity. People at the top of their game going now for the top prize.

0:04:00 > 0:04:04I'm looking to see a bit of ruthless steel beneath the smiles.

0:04:04 > 0:04:09'Instead, I saw these two clowns sitting there chatting up models.'

0:04:09 > 0:04:15This is like a load of Stephen Baldwins - they look good, but absolutely pointless.

0:04:15 > 0:04:20- What's your strategy? - To call as many friends on our Rolodex as we can

0:04:20 > 0:04:26- and try to make as much profit as we can.- Hello, hello, hello!

0:04:26 > 0:04:30Joan, you're doing well from what they tell me.

0:04:30 > 0:04:36You could win the whole competition. How is that going to work with your own daughter in the show?

0:04:36 > 0:04:40As long as she loses because she should lose, that's fine.

0:04:40 > 0:04:45To be thrown under the bus, as almost happened, is not fine.

0:04:45 > 0:04:49- What will you do if she is? - I will walk.

0:04:49 > 0:04:55If I was thrown under the bus, my father would be disappointed in me for getting in the way of it.

0:04:59 > 0:05:03- Hi! How's it going? - Good!

0:05:03 > 0:05:07- This is Piers Morgan. - Nice to meet you.

0:05:07 > 0:05:13'Melissa and I were working and in walks Piers and Ivanka. I was especially excited'

0:05:13 > 0:05:16because I was a huge fan of Piers.

0:05:16 > 0:05:23- So Piers kicked everyone's ass. - You were my favourite last year. I was rooting for you.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25'Brande was right there,'

0:05:25 > 0:05:28boobies in Piers's face. Whoo whoo!

0:05:28 > 0:05:35We asked your mum and she said if you got unfairly thrown under a bus, she'd walk. What's your view?

0:05:35 > 0:05:40I think my mother would expect me to not take the fall.

0:05:40 > 0:05:44- So I'd just keep going.- If you lose, who gets thrown under the bus?

0:05:44 > 0:05:50Annie said whoever raises the least amount of money goes in the boardroom.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53- And who is that at this point? - Me and Jesse.

0:05:53 > 0:05:59- I'm trying to work out if you two know how to win. - It's all about money.

0:05:59 > 0:06:03- Well, good luck.- Thank you. - May the best team win.

0:06:03 > 0:06:07'Piers came in and was suggesting this was all about money.'

0:06:07 > 0:06:10I must say, once he left...

0:06:10 > 0:06:12Hi, Michael Carlin, please.

0:06:12 > 0:06:18- ..Melissa was scrambling. - 'He's not in his office.'

0:06:18 > 0:06:20Why weren't you doing that before?

0:06:20 > 0:06:28Why did it take someone at 4 o'clock when our show was in two hours, for you to actually get on the phone

0:06:28 > 0:06:32and feel nervous about it? That was kind of fascinating.

0:06:41 > 0:06:45- PHONE RINGS - Hey, what's up?

0:06:45 > 0:06:50'Natalie called and she wants to talk to me in the next few hours.

0:06:50 > 0:06:56- 'She called me for help.'- Against me.- 'I've never met Natalie and I'm a fan, but you're my girl!'

0:06:56 > 0:07:02Right. I just want to be clear. Natalie called you to try to get you to be a donor for her?

0:07:02 > 0:07:04'Yes, yes.'

0:07:04 > 0:07:10When I heard my friend facilitated someone getting in touch with people to try to fundraise against me,

0:07:10 > 0:07:12I was not happy about this.

0:07:17 > 0:07:24- I suggest you turn the- BLEEP- volume on your phone down cos I'm going to be yelling.

0:07:24 > 0:07:31- 'So hold on...'- No, no, no. What did I ever do to you that you're helping Natalie Gulbis

0:07:31 > 0:07:33- when she's not on my- BLEEP- team?

0:07:33 > 0:07:40It's not great if I get voted off the show because she just stabbed me in the back so bad!

0:07:40 > 0:07:44- And I'm angry about it. Why the- BLEEP- would you do it?

0:07:44 > 0:07:50'Let me tell you what I know, OK? I get a call this morning. She tells me

0:07:50 > 0:07:55- 'you're playing poker against each other.'- That's not what's happening.

0:07:55 > 0:08:01- She wants money from my rivals. - 'She needed a coach. She's going to play against you.'

0:08:01 > 0:08:08- She wants to talk to my rivals to get money from them in a donation task. You were- BLEEP- played.

0:08:08 > 0:08:13- I suggest you call her and say don't ever- BLEEP- lie to me again.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16- JOAN:- And you thought I was bad!

0:08:16 > 0:08:20- You know what that's about? - I don't care.

0:08:20 > 0:08:26We heard through the wall Annie screaming.

0:08:26 > 0:08:31- We're doing a charity auction! - 'I mean, the venom that came out.'

0:08:32 > 0:08:37- This is a bad, bad, bad person. - Now I'm pissed off.

0:08:37 > 0:08:41I understand that you were lied to...

0:08:41 > 0:08:46Annie went BERSERK! Berserk!

0:08:46 > 0:08:53- No, you were just lied to. - 'She felt the tactic Natalie used was dishonest,'

0:08:53 > 0:08:55which is funny coming from Annie.

0:08:55 > 0:08:59- Tell me it was only Phil that you sent it to.- 'Yeah, nobody else.'

0:08:59 > 0:09:05If I find you sent it to any other poker players, I'll be pissed off.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08'I thought Natalie did something very clever.'

0:09:08 > 0:09:13If Annie had thought of it, it would have been brilliant,

0:09:13 > 0:09:18but because someone got her, it sent her round the bend.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21Where's Natalie? Is Natalie up here?

0:09:21 > 0:09:27Where's Natalie? I got such an interesting phone call today from Phil Hellmuth.

0:09:27 > 0:09:33He said, "Natalie Gulbis is trying to get money from me. Should I donate to her?"

0:09:33 > 0:09:37I was like, "If you do, I will personally kill you."

0:09:37 > 0:09:40'Annie was very, very pissed.'

0:09:40 > 0:09:44that I was trying to get Phil to come over and help out our team.

0:09:44 > 0:09:49- But it was a nice try.- I got the reaction, but not the money.

0:09:52 > 0:09:56- You guys going to have a cage match? - We're mud wrestling over Phil!

0:09:56 > 0:10:01I definitely feel I let my team down. I hoped to contribute.

0:10:01 > 0:10:08- My manager will be in the audience. - Can't you get him to spend 30K? - Possibly.

0:10:08 > 0:10:15I'll ask. Can't hurt. 'I was relying so heavily on that extra amount of money.'

0:10:15 > 0:10:18I hope it isn't the difference.

0:10:18 > 0:10:23- MELISSA:- OK, where are my models? At 6.45 I need everybody,

0:10:23 > 0:10:26boobies up, lipstick on. And we'll get the jewellery.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29Today I just feel like Annie has

0:10:29 > 0:10:32completely turned on me.

0:10:32 > 0:10:38And that's fine. I can't raise the money that she and Brande can, but I can outwork both of them.

0:10:38 > 0:10:42How fantastic is this? Isn't that a great ring?

0:10:42 > 0:10:44How awesome is that?

0:10:44 > 0:10:49I think I picked really great stuff. I tried for a great cross-section.

0:10:49 > 0:10:57- It would be nice if they said, "Great job!" They didn't bother. I'm so sick of this- BLEEP.

0:10:57 > 0:11:01- Did I not pick well? - It's all beautiful.- Good.

0:11:01 > 0:11:03'Melissa doesn't get it.'

0:11:03 > 0:11:09Let's be real. It's not only about the jewellery, which is beautiful.

0:11:09 > 0:11:13It's about the money, which is also beautiful.

0:11:16 > 0:11:22All right, so here's our war chest. Stuart's going to do the bidding.

0:11:22 > 0:11:24'So our strategy was'

0:11:24 > 0:11:27to take all of our monies together

0:11:27 > 0:11:31'and have our bidder bid on the least expensive piece of jewellery,'

0:11:31 > 0:11:33to get the highest profit margin.

0:11:33 > 0:11:36We just want this one piece here.

0:11:36 > 0:11:40The other four pieces will go to the highest bidder at the event

0:11:40 > 0:11:43and that'll be our gravy.

0:11:58 > 0:12:03The auction's about to start. With people flying in for this,

0:12:03 > 0:12:08you worry that they won't show up. Then I saw Scott Ian, a good friend of mine,

0:12:08 > 0:12:12And Andy Black and Perry Friedman, who bought the wedding dress.

0:12:12 > 0:12:19And Stewie Rah Rah told Brande, "I'll bid from zero to a billion." That's an important guy to have.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31Smiles, everyone. Smiles.

0:12:33 > 0:12:37Are we ready to raise a lot of money for charity?

0:12:37 > 0:12:42Let's see what we can do. We'll bring out lot number one.

0:12:42 > 0:12:46This is the open framework diamond and rock crystal earrings.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49I'd like to start the bidding at 15,000.

0:12:49 > 0:12:52Do I have 15,000?

0:12:52 > 0:12:54Right, 15,000?

0:12:56 > 0:12:59There's 15,000. 191.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01Can I get 20,000?

0:13:01 > 0:13:09Do I hear 20? There we go. 151. That's my friend Scott Ian, lead guitarist for Anthrax.

0:13:09 > 0:13:11My friends are so reliable.

0:13:11 > 0:13:16'But I was a little nervous about how deep the boys would go.'

0:13:16 > 0:13:21Do I hear 25? Andy? This is Andy Black, one of the best poker players in the world.

0:13:21 > 0:13:26- No, he is... 25, OK. Good. - She's doing a good job.

0:13:26 > 0:13:31We got 25,000. Do I hear 30? Can I get 30 out of anybody? Scott?

0:13:31 > 0:13:36No? All right. 25. Going once, going twice...

0:13:36 > 0:13:39Sold to Andy Black. Congratulations.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43- She has a nice way.- Yes, go.

0:13:46 > 0:13:51This is Heather. I'm hoping someone is going to buy this one for me.

0:13:51 > 0:13:55I think this is the most beautiful necklace. It's so my style.

0:13:55 > 0:14:00I am going to start the bidding at 30,000. Do we have 30,000? OK, 30,000.

0:14:00 > 0:14:04Yeah! All right, 30,000. Do I have 35?

0:14:04 > 0:14:07- 35!- 35. There we go, Stewie.

0:14:09 > 0:14:1140,000!

0:14:11 > 0:14:15Once Annie knew where the money was, she went right after it.

0:14:15 > 0:14:19She worked all the right people. Bear after salmon.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22Can I get 50 from you? Come on.

0:14:22 > 0:14:26I'm on my knees, begging you. 50,000!

0:14:28 > 0:14:2950!

0:14:29 > 0:14:35- Now, Scott, what happened to your game after I gave you poker lessons? - It went like this.

0:14:35 > 0:14:40- Can you give me 52? It's a good cause.- 52.- Ay!

0:14:40 > 0:14:46That's what I wanted! 52,000 going once. Going twice.

0:14:46 > 0:14:49Sold to Scott Ian!

0:14:53 > 0:14:56I am ready for Brande.

0:14:56 > 0:15:00'Brande comes out with a triple strand. This was her donor.'

0:15:00 > 0:15:06And Stewie said to Brande, "I'll do whatever it takes for you to win, from zero to a billion dollars."

0:15:06 > 0:15:12- Stewie...- Wait, come on. There's a recession on. - You don't know what that means!

0:15:12 > 0:15:14- 25,000.- 26.

0:15:14 > 0:15:1626,000!

0:15:16 > 0:15:23Then they bid against each other. They were at 35 and I was not able to get them beyond 35.

0:15:23 > 0:15:27- Stewie, how about 40?- No. - Go down and talk to him.

0:15:27 > 0:15:33But I'm cut-throat! I'm not letting a guy who said a billion stop at 35,000!

0:15:33 > 0:15:40That was when I got down on my knees, purposely putting the microphone like this.

0:15:40 > 0:15:44OK, 50,000. That's my last offer!

0:15:44 > 0:15:46Going once! Twice!

0:15:46 > 0:15:50And sold to the gentleman right over here.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53'Annie was a great auctioneer.'

0:15:53 > 0:15:55She really blew my mind.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58Going once. Twice. She's got it!

0:15:58 > 0:16:04She really know how to take money from people. That's what she does for a living. She's so good at it.

0:16:04 > 0:16:09Sold to Perry Friedman. Let's bring the items back out.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12This evening could not have gone any better.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16We had such an exciting time and raised so much money.

0:16:16 > 0:16:19Thank you very much.

0:16:20 > 0:16:27You don't have to start with a minimum bid at 3,500. You could start with...10,000.

0:16:27 > 0:16:34We're going to start the bidding at 10,000 on this piece. It's a steal at half the price...

0:16:34 > 0:16:38If an item was 6,000, we're not gonna start at 6,000.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42It's best to start at 10,000 or 14,000,

0:16:42 > 0:16:45and you already got a profit margin.

0:16:47 > 0:16:52I'm Clint Black and I'll be your auctioneer for Team Kotu.

0:16:52 > 0:16:58Please help me welcome out Jennifer, modelling a set of matching mixed cut diamond band rings.

0:16:58 > 0:17:02You get two! I'm going to start the bidding on these at 20,000.

0:17:02 > 0:17:06Have I got 20,000 on these rings?

0:17:14 > 0:17:1720,000. Can I get 20,000 for these rings?

0:17:23 > 0:17:25Clint was not a good auctioneer.

0:17:25 > 0:17:29He didn't know what to say or how to get them going.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32Isn't everybody as excited as I am?

0:17:35 > 0:17:3720,000?

0:17:39 > 0:17:4120,000?

0:17:43 > 0:17:45'I was backstage going,'

0:17:45 > 0:17:49"I'm just gonna die! I'm just gonna kill myself."

0:17:49 > 0:17:53Everybody get enough to drink tonight? It doesn't look like it.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59Can we get 20,000 for these rings?

0:17:59 > 0:18:01'The atmosphere in the room'

0:18:01 > 0:18:07had plummeted to Siberian temperatures. It was embarrassing,

0:18:07 > 0:18:10an insult to Mr Trump and Ivanka.

0:18:10 > 0:18:14I think we'll move on cos I'm not coming down off that 20,000.

0:18:16 > 0:18:24So please help me welcome out Cheryl wearing diamond earrings with South Sea pearl pagoda charms.

0:18:27 > 0:18:34We're going to start the bidding at 12,000. I want to see some paddles up. Do I have 12,000?

0:18:38 > 0:18:43- It's your call.- I don't want to take his thunder away.

0:18:43 > 0:18:46Come on, ladies and gentlemen.

0:18:46 > 0:18:49We have 12,000. Thank you, sir.

0:18:49 > 0:18:52Can I see 15,000?

0:18:56 > 0:19:00I think we have a bid over here with Mr Trump on these. No?

0:19:00 > 0:19:02No?

0:19:02 > 0:19:07I think he already owns a pair. I saw you wearing some yesterday.

0:19:07 > 0:19:11I was pretty sure... No, it might not have been.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16Dare I say it?

0:19:16 > 0:19:2012,000 going once. 12,000 going twice.

0:19:20 > 0:19:2512,000. Sold to the gentleman down here.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28'The auction was really slow. Our strategy was'

0:19:28 > 0:19:33to put all our money into the least expensive piece.

0:19:33 > 0:19:39It didn't make the auction appealing and I'm sure that was hard for Ivanka to watch.

0:19:39 > 0:19:44- Joan, we might want to send out our go to item to fire them up.- Yeah.

0:19:44 > 0:19:50Our piece was the fifth piece, but I ran to Joan and said, "We need to put it out

0:19:50 > 0:19:54"to at least get these people ready to put up a little money."

0:19:54 > 0:19:59- We're going to bring Valerie out... - Valerie isn't ready. Hold on.

0:19:59 > 0:20:06We're not bringing Valerie out just yet. And instead we're bringing Alex out.

0:20:06 > 0:20:12Alex is wearing oval black onyx earrings, encircled with diamonds.

0:20:12 > 0:20:18I don't even want to tell you what I'm starting at. 40,000. You'll never find earrings for that.

0:20:21 > 0:20:27- 40,000 for these wonderful earrings. - It's a black, beautiful onyx ring.

0:20:27 > 0:20:30LAUGHTER

0:20:30 > 0:20:37It's a beautiful black onyx and diamond ring that women would drool over. Start walking.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:20:40 > 0:20:42Please, walk on down.

0:20:45 > 0:20:51- That's actually a cardboard cut-out of Joan Rivers.- Show it off! Show your hand, move your hand.

0:20:51 > 0:20:56Up, down! Come on, bitch. Go for it. Sell it!

0:20:57 > 0:21:00We have 40,000? 40,000.

0:21:00 > 0:21:02Can we see 45,000?

0:21:03 > 0:21:0745,000. We have 45,000, folks.

0:21:07 > 0:21:11Then everybody perked up. Finally!

0:21:11 > 0:21:1350,000. 60,000.

0:21:13 > 0:21:17Can we see 70,000? Somebody... 70,000.

0:21:17 > 0:21:21Can we see more? Can we see 75,000?

0:21:21 > 0:21:2675,000. Mr 184. Can we see 80,000?

0:21:26 > 0:21:30- 83,500.- 83,500! - That's great.

0:21:30 > 0:21:33We've got 83,500 going once. 83,500 going twice.

0:21:33 > 0:21:38- 83,500. It's yours, Mr 185. - Great!

0:21:38 > 0:21:41'I watched Donald and Ivanka'

0:21:41 > 0:21:49and they were thinking, "This team is rallying! They're raising money," and everybody started to perk up.

0:21:49 > 0:21:55Out comes Valerie. Valerie is modelling pave diamond long crossover earrings

0:21:55 > 0:22:01with black spindle drops. We're going to start the bid on these earrings at 20,000.

0:22:01 > 0:22:06- Can I hear 20,000?- Valerie is bulimic. Just to cheer the women up.

0:22:06 > 0:22:13All the women, you can like Valerie because she's bulimic. She's been throwing up all afternoon.

0:22:13 > 0:22:20We don't have to be jealous of Valerie. We can bring her into our circle and say, "Poor Valerie."

0:22:20 > 0:22:24Joan, people love her and she's quick on her feet.

0:22:24 > 0:22:29What she says, what she does. She was absolutely great.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32- Going once.- Going twice. Sold!

0:22:32 > 0:22:36She livened it up. Everyone got excited.

0:22:36 > 0:22:40- Going once.- Going twice.- Sold. Congratulations.

0:22:40 > 0:22:45I think pooling the money together on one piece was very smart.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48We got the most out of where our money went.

0:22:48 > 0:22:52The long run, and the short run, is how much did you make?

0:22:52 > 0:22:55Thank you all very much.

0:23:15 > 0:23:21I have to say, Annie, you and Joan did a really great job.

0:23:21 > 0:23:25- That was really a great job. - Thank you.

0:23:25 > 0:23:30- Who picked your jewellery?- Melissa did. She did a fantastic job.

0:23:30 > 0:23:38It showed beautifully from the stage. The donors loved it. I want to get that pendant.

0:23:38 > 0:23:43- Were you involved in it?- No. - Was Brande?- No, she went over alone.

0:23:43 > 0:23:50- I think she did a fantastic job. - I thought what is each person good at.- She's got good genes for this.

0:23:50 > 0:23:57- You picked large pieces that were visible from anywhere in the audience.- Was that on purpose?

0:23:57 > 0:24:05Yes. I wanted a higher perceived value and picked things that I felt would read that way.

0:24:05 > 0:24:08Joan, you trained her well.

0:24:10 > 0:24:15- Annie, who was the weak player on your team?- Nobody.

0:24:15 > 0:24:21- If you have to choose somebody. Every team has a weak player. - Then I'd choose on money raising.

0:24:21 > 0:24:29- Jesse and Melissa brought in the least money, but...- Jesse, you're a nice guy. I won last season

0:24:29 > 0:24:33- despite my many inadequacies.- Flaws. - Yeah. Psychological flaws.

0:24:33 > 0:24:40But you're all aware that I won because primarily I raised the most. I was shameless about it.

0:24:40 > 0:24:43This was all for great charities.

0:24:43 > 0:24:49But you are not playing that game. You're married to one of the biggest stars in the world.

0:24:49 > 0:24:56- Yes.- Is there not a way through her circle of Hollywood pals that you couldn't get a load of money?

0:24:56 > 0:25:00- I was trying.- Your wife says no?

0:25:02 > 0:25:06- I didn't ask my wife.- Why's that?

0:25:06 > 0:25:12- Er, I don't mix business and pleasure.- But you must know los of movie stars.

0:25:12 > 0:25:14I don't. A couple.

0:25:14 > 0:25:19- Have you asked them?- No.- I'm curious. It just seems obvious.

0:25:19 > 0:25:23In the end, it's all for charity, you know?

0:25:27 > 0:25:28OK.

0:25:28 > 0:25:33- Joan, what did you think of your team?- I'm crazy about my team.

0:25:33 > 0:25:40Didn't you think was a little bit on the long...? I was going to say, "Clint, enough already."

0:25:40 > 0:25:47- When you got involved, it seemed to speed up a little bit. - Well, you know me, Donald.

0:25:47 > 0:25:53Why weren't you out there from the get go? You're incredibly knowledgeable about jewellery.

0:25:53 > 0:25:58- Why weren't you out there? - Because I did the fashion part of it

0:25:58 > 0:26:05and Clint said "I would like to do the auctioneering." And I like my team to all participate.

0:26:05 > 0:26:09Ivanka wasn't happy with the pieces your team picked.

0:26:09 > 0:26:15It was hard for bidders to see from the back seats and it made me look a little bad.

0:26:15 > 0:26:19- When nobody was bidding. - I tried for the opposite effect.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21- Yeah.- Sorry.

0:26:21 > 0:26:26- Who picked the jewellery? Who actually picked it?- I did.

0:26:26 > 0:26:30So that's a little bit of a mistake, based on what Ivanka is saying.

0:26:30 > 0:26:35It wasn't anything wrong with the jewellery. You didn't have momentum.

0:26:35 > 0:26:41We took all our donations and put them into one package, which we were allowed to do.

0:26:41 > 0:26:45- But you ended up not selling one. - That wasn't the task.

0:26:45 > 0:26:50Our task was to get the most money and do that as well as we could.

0:26:50 > 0:26:57- We were not told we had to sell all five.- So, Joan, do you think it's OK in this scenario,

0:26:57 > 0:27:04where I contributed jewellery, that you know only one piece will be bid on out of five?

0:27:04 > 0:27:09And the other was a free for all? You think that's right to me?

0:27:09 > 0:27:14Absolutely. I'm a jewellery designer. The task was to make the most money.

0:27:14 > 0:27:18It wasn't to embarrass you.

0:27:18 > 0:27:25But you turned the auction into a complete farce. Clint was left doing his one-man show

0:27:25 > 0:27:32for what seemed like days, weeks, months. I could feel the will to live seeping out of me.

0:27:32 > 0:27:37You're representing the Trump family in a show run by Donald Trump,

0:27:37 > 0:27:43- so the least you should do is show some basic respect to Ivanka and her work.- Absolutely.

0:27:44 > 0:27:51This is a critical point. We didn't have such a great war chest

0:27:51 > 0:27:55that we could spread it out over five and maintain the profit margin.

0:27:55 > 0:28:02- Why didn't you have a bigger war chest?- Because you didn't give us your Rolodex.

0:28:02 > 0:28:08- I don't know Richard Branson. - Come on, Joan. You've been in showbusiness...

0:28:08 > 0:28:12- My darling...- A long time. You know everybody.- Yes, I do.

0:28:12 > 0:28:19- Joan, you know the same people I know.- Shall I give you a list? - You know who we're talking about.

0:28:19 > 0:28:21You're damn right I know.

0:28:21 > 0:28:26- I thought you might have called some of them.- I called a lot of them. - Annie did.

0:28:26 > 0:28:34- May I jump in there?- No, don't... - It's a private conversation about the people you both know

0:28:34 > 0:28:38who have turned us down. I think you would be very surprised.

0:28:38 > 0:28:45- Why are you defending the opposition?- It's my mother.- So what? - You were very disrespectful.- Who?

0:28:45 > 0:28:52- You. Your tone was getting a wee bit aggressive.- Not at all. - Going on about who she knows.

0:28:52 > 0:28:59- It's hard not to have a hair trigger on certain topics. - Annie, what's your take on this?

0:28:59 > 0:29:06- I'm not interested in Annie's take. - But I am.- OK.- Unbelievably, Joan, that's all that matters.

0:29:06 > 0:29:12I think it was very disrespectful to Ivanka to not sell every piece.

0:29:12 > 0:29:19You can take the job literally about raising money. So why not hand the jewellery to my donors

0:29:19 > 0:29:24and have them give me the money? It's not just about that. You've to be respectful to what you do,

0:29:24 > 0:29:29respectful to the charities, the task, to Ivanka...

0:29:29 > 0:29:33You are a despicable human being! A perfect poker player.

0:29:33 > 0:29:38This woman would spit and drown her mother in it to get another step.

0:29:38 > 0:29:42- -- Wow! - -- Oh, now it's the "wow" Annie.

0:29:42 > 0:29:50This is 16 different personalities. This is a girl who told us for two weeks how she despised Brande...

0:29:50 > 0:29:54I never said despise. Have we talked about this?

0:29:54 > 0:29:59- Yes. - How Brande should go off the team and now Brande's her best friend.

0:29:59 > 0:30:05- Did you say those things about Brande?- We've talked about it...

0:30:05 > 0:30:12- Forget that.- I never said I despised her. I said I felt, as I said to you, she had become a weak player.

0:30:12 > 0:30:17- -- I told her to her face. - -- You couldn't wait 'til she went.

0:30:17 > 0:30:23She was dragging us down, Joan. I then talked to Brande and she was the superstar on my team.

0:30:23 > 0:30:28And the other day in the boardroom when I expressed to you

0:30:28 > 0:30:34- what I felt Brande's downfall was... - I believe I expressed it.

0:30:34 > 0:30:38- -- But then I expressed it. - -- It's always her.

0:30:38 > 0:30:44Thank God Einstein's dead or she'd take the Theory of Relativity! "I did this, I did that.

0:30:44 > 0:30:49"The gay boys love me. I did this, I did that."

0:30:49 > 0:30:54You're a smart woman, but not that smart. Your ego is so beyond you.

0:30:54 > 0:31:02- Is ego a big factor in being a championship poker player? - You need a lot of confidence.- Ego?

0:31:02 > 0:31:07- -- Ego gets in the way. - -- Then you'll fail. - -- Terribly(!)

0:31:07 > 0:31:11- I just want to finish one thing. - Go ahead.- Business is business.

0:31:11 > 0:31:16- -- And we're in a competition. - -- Anything goes.

0:31:16 > 0:31:21- The personal attacks interest me. - Isn't it amazing...?

0:31:21 > 0:31:27You've attacked all of us, but you leave them at the door here and you're so nice.

0:31:27 > 0:31:34- She does seem nice to me. She does seem nice. - So was Hitler at Buchenwald.

0:31:34 > 0:31:40- So was Hitler?!- Have you ever been compared to Hitler before?- No.

0:31:40 > 0:31:46Can I just ask Melissa, in light of your mother's comments, which make me look like a tea party,

0:31:46 > 0:31:50- do you still think I was being disrespectful to her?- Thank you.

0:31:50 > 0:31:55- On a scale of disrespect... - Piers, I completely withdraw

0:31:55 > 0:32:02- and hope you have children who love you.- I have three lovely children. - I think that's great, Melissa.

0:32:02 > 0:32:08I just want to say that whatever anybody here on my right might think about me,

0:32:08 > 0:32:14- when I call somebody and ask them to get on a plane at six in the morning, they do.- They all came.

0:32:14 > 0:32:18Joan, that's an interesting point. Herschel, wait.

0:32:18 > 0:32:23- It is true. She was the one. She had a room full of people. - Wait, wait.

0:32:23 > 0:32:29She said everybody she called gave her money. I brought in about 55,000.

0:32:29 > 0:32:34- I'm only talking about the person to my immediate right. - You did a great job.

0:32:34 > 0:32:38But she actually had people get on planes.

0:32:38 > 0:32:45- That's because, I guess, they like her.- It's wonderful. We also heard a conversation yesterday

0:32:45 > 0:32:50about someone you called that Annie knew. Tell us what it was.

0:32:50 > 0:32:56I was having some issues with my friends, so I was trying to put feelers out

0:32:56 > 0:33:03to find out if any poker competitors might want to go up against Annie. I found one individual,

0:33:03 > 0:33:08- the best poker player in the world, named Phil...- Phil Hellmuth.

0:33:08 > 0:33:12- Is he the best? - No one's even close.- Go ahead.

0:33:12 > 0:33:18I reached out to Phil and asked him if he was willing to bid for charity and Annie was on the opposing team.

0:33:18 > 0:33:23Originally, he had said yes. I don't know how Annie found out...

0:33:23 > 0:33:29- He called me immediately. - She was not very excited. - But why should she be excited?

0:33:29 > 0:33:34Why are you telling this story? They tried to screw you...

0:33:34 > 0:33:41- And I found out.- And stopped it. Annie wins. Why are you telling a story that is so self-defeating?

0:33:41 > 0:33:49- There was a phone call made, Annie was screaming...- She doesn't look like a screamer.- Oh, my God.

0:33:49 > 0:33:53- But Annie was effective. Even if she had to yell...- Hold it.

0:33:53 > 0:33:58- Melissa, hold it. You are on her team.- I know.

0:33:58 > 0:34:04So you're torn. You're on Annie's team, but you're saying, "My God, she's a screamer!"

0:34:04 > 0:34:10- Wait, wait, you're on her team.- Yes. - But you're protecting your mother.

0:34:10 > 0:34:15I'm not saying Annie was wrong to be upset, but it was a very angry phone call.

0:34:15 > 0:34:21- I'm just playing the Fact Police. - Why are you saying this? I find this dynamic fascinating.

0:34:21 > 0:34:28- You would speak up and knife your leader...- She didn't knife her. - ..to suck up to your mum.- No.

0:34:28 > 0:34:34- That's the way it looks to me. - I don't need to suck up to my mother and I resent that.- Why do it?

0:34:34 > 0:34:38- Cos I love her!- What's that got to do with it? It's business.

0:34:38 > 0:34:41- Fine.- You know...- Mom, stop.

0:34:41 > 0:34:45- You're in the opposing team. - The truth needed to come out.

0:34:45 > 0:34:50- What is the truth?- Annie had a very yelling, angry conversation.

0:34:50 > 0:34:54That is the fact. Let's not bicker over it.

0:34:54 > 0:34:59- Is Annie a bad person?- I think Annie plays the game brilliantly.

0:34:59 > 0:35:02No, no. Is Annie a bad person?

0:35:04 > 0:35:10- No.- Thank you. - Is Annie different from the person I'm looking at

0:35:10 > 0:35:15- who seems so sweet and nice?- Yes. And I understand Annie and accept who she is.

0:35:15 > 0:35:21Is she different than in the boardroom? Towards me? I believe so. Does that make her a bad person?

0:35:21 > 0:35:24No. Is she a brilliant game player? Yes.

0:35:24 > 0:35:32- OK.- Jesse, do you think it's a liability to have Melissa on a team not paired with her mother?

0:35:32 > 0:35:37I feel like we just re-enacted the last family reunion I went to.

0:35:37 > 0:35:43- I love Jesse James.- Melissa's been very loyal to her mother and I respect that.

0:35:43 > 0:35:48OK, let's get the results. Ivanka, how did Kotu do?

0:35:48 > 0:35:55Kotu raised an impressive 92,000, most of which was raised through one piece.

0:35:55 > 0:36:01- That's profit.- That's a lot of money. And don't forget that's in the form of profit.

0:36:01 > 0:36:06That's profit. Piers, how did Athena do?

0:36:06 > 0:36:10Athena raised a total profit of...

0:36:11 > 0:36:15£153,000...er, dollars. Not pounds, obviously.

0:36:15 > 0:36:19- Pounds would be more. - Not at the moment!

0:36:19 > 0:36:23- This is America. - I know where it is.

0:36:23 > 0:36:29- That's a little shot, Jesse. - I'm just kidding.- He's allowed to dish it back. I like that.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32I will say this.

0:36:32 > 0:36:37245,000 is a record on Apprentice.

0:36:37 > 0:36:43That's for just a period of one week. And it's going to go to your charity, Annie.

0:36:43 > 0:36:48I have to say you are more than double what last year was at this time.

0:36:48 > 0:36:56You're into the 600,000, 700,000. Almost 700,000 has been raised for charity so far. Pretty good.

0:36:56 > 0:37:00- What's the name of your charity? - Refugees International.

0:37:00 > 0:37:04They provide aid and protection to refugees in Sudan and Congo.

0:37:04 > 0:37:10- Congratulations. Great job. 245,000 is a lot of money. Go. - Thank you.- Thank you.

0:37:10 > 0:37:12Thank you.

0:37:18 > 0:37:25- It was very uncalled for. Tell your mother not to get so personal! - I did! I couldn't let it turn

0:37:25 > 0:37:32- into a bloodbath with my own parent! - She started it!- I know! And I tried to end it!

0:37:32 > 0:37:36- She started it. - Annie, I tried to end it.

0:37:36 > 0:37:38'To come out with what Joan said:'

0:37:38 > 0:37:45I'm nasty and I'm Hitler. She was demonstrating the very qualities she accused me of.

0:37:45 > 0:37:48She's 76. I do not control her.

0:37:48 > 0:37:53- I can truthfully say I hope she gets- BLEEP- fired. - Well, I can understand.

0:37:53 > 0:38:01- If someone called me despicable... - Hitler! 'She may never speak to me again as far as I'm concerned.'

0:38:01 > 0:38:05- That woman is completely - BLEEP- dead to me. 100%.

0:38:10 > 0:38:15Clint, who was the weak player on your team?

0:38:15 > 0:38:21You know, the interesting thing that we have here now is there is no weak player.

0:38:21 > 0:38:25As we began this game, you could point to the obvious...

0:38:25 > 0:38:32You could say whoever picked the jewellery. It wasn't as big, as flashy, as showy.

0:38:32 > 0:38:36Beautiful close up, but it doesn't show as well from the stage.

0:38:36 > 0:38:41Why didn't Joan pick the jewellery? She's the best at it in the world.

0:38:41 > 0:38:48- Why didn't Joan pick the jewellery? - I think that Natalie has great style.- She does have great style.

0:38:48 > 0:38:51She's worn beautiful jewellery all these weeks.

0:38:51 > 0:38:55She has a young point of view. Ivanka's young.

0:38:55 > 0:39:02- Joan, your daughter picked large, visible jewellery.- I didn't realise that when I sent her up there.

0:39:02 > 0:39:06I knew that she would pick very pretty things.

0:39:06 > 0:39:12I did not give her instructions. I thought she would find wonderful young pieces of jewellery.

0:39:12 > 0:39:19- And they're beautiful things, but they were very hard to see. - Yes, they were.

0:39:19 > 0:39:21And so different from Melissa's.

0:39:21 > 0:39:28- Were you happy with what Natalie picked?- I would rather she'd come back with huge, big things.

0:39:28 > 0:39:34- So you weren't happy.- You liked the other team's jewellery better.

0:39:34 > 0:39:39When I saw the other team's, perhaps I'd have picked other things.

0:39:41 > 0:39:44Joan, if you were me, who would you fire?

0:39:53 > 0:39:57We are such a good team together

0:39:57 > 0:40:02- and everybody wants... - I've never seen you cry before. - I like these people so much.

0:40:02 > 0:40:08- You have a big heart.- It just kills me.- Because you'll lose somebody? Somebody has to go.

0:40:08 > 0:40:13- Or me.- Would you ever believe you'd be crying over losing Clint?

0:40:13 > 0:40:17That's why she's crying!

0:40:17 > 0:40:21No, but he's such a good guy. You know, he's an honest guy.

0:40:21 > 0:40:27- Have you gotten close to Herschel and Natalie also?- Herschel, I wish you would marry Melissa.

0:40:27 > 0:40:30- He might do it.- I'm begging him.

0:40:30 > 0:40:36- I keep saying.- It's an off-screen romance.- Natalie is so sweet.

0:40:36 > 0:40:42- What you see is what you get. - So you're upset that somebody has to go.- It's killing me.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45I'm so fond of all of them.

0:40:45 > 0:40:51I am fond of all of you. I know all of you and I'm fond of you. It's hard.

0:40:51 > 0:40:54But you failed as a team and somebody has to be fired.

0:40:54 > 0:41:00Although Herschel raised the most money. Herschel, you raised 55,000. You did the best job.

0:41:00 > 0:41:05- It's hard to say, "I have to fire Herschel." - We didn't win.- You're close.

0:41:05 > 0:41:08I must be honest with you, Joan.

0:41:08 > 0:41:11You were...terrific.

0:41:11 > 0:41:14As far as Clint, in terms of the auctioneer,

0:41:14 > 0:41:18he was really not good at what he did.

0:41:18 > 0:41:22You could see that and you came into the picture.

0:41:22 > 0:41:25But Clint really isn't the reason that you lost

0:41:25 > 0:41:30because whether he was good or not, nobody could see the pieces he was selling.

0:41:32 > 0:41:38Natalie, with all of the rich golfers you play with and want to play with you so badly,

0:41:38 > 0:41:40weren't you able to raise any money?

0:41:40 > 0:41:45I'd asked some individuals and I really thought I'd be able to draw a lot more money.

0:41:45 > 0:41:49- And what happened? - And they all said "no".

0:41:52 > 0:41:57OK, look, I have to go with something. Natalie, you weren't an effective fund-raiser.

0:41:57 > 0:42:02And ultimately, you picked the wrong jewellery.

0:42:05 > 0:42:08So, Natalie, you're fired.

0:42:08 > 0:42:10- OK.- Sorry. Thank you.

0:42:12 > 0:42:17- Just drop it, Annie! - When your mother calls me "Hitler", you might want to jump in.

0:42:17 > 0:42:23- Melissa, I love you and I enjoy being on your team.- He just fired Natalie.- He fired Natalie?- What?

0:42:23 > 0:42:26Good luck, everybody. Thank you. Go.

0:42:29 > 0:42:34- You did a good job, Joan.- Thank you. - A great job.- Thank you. Thank you.

0:42:36 > 0:42:38JOAN SNIFFS

0:42:38 > 0:42:40She's got a big heart.

0:42:43 > 0:42:45Thank you.

0:42:45 > 0:42:47Natalie...

0:42:49 > 0:42:51Hey, fellas.

0:42:51 > 0:42:53- Oh, my darling!- See ya.

0:42:53 > 0:42:55Thank you.

0:42:55 > 0:42:57- Good luck.- I love you.- Thank you.

0:42:57 > 0:43:03'I was really proud of our KOTU team. We raised 100,000 in one night at the charity auction.

0:43:04 > 0:43:06'Working for Donald Trump was great.'

0:43:06 > 0:43:10He was the first boss I've ever had and the first firing I've ever had.

0:43:10 > 0:43:16- Why Natalie?- She made bad choices on the jewellery and didn't come through with the money.- Oh, my God!

0:43:16 > 0:43:19I'm shocked right now.

0:43:19 > 0:43:24Do not throw fuel on the flames. I've just been yelled at and I'm yelling back.

0:43:24 > 0:43:28Please walk in and do not throw flames on a very volatile situation.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31- I won't do anything. - I'm this far from quitting.

0:43:31 > 0:43:34I don't want to have a heart attack over Annie.

0:43:34 > 0:43:37It's just stupid. It's such a waste of time.

0:43:37 > 0:43:43But I am going to jump in there full force because we've just got to win this one.

0:43:43 > 0:43:45It's so unfair.

0:43:45 > 0:43:50We worked like a terrific team and it's just very sad.

0:43:50 > 0:43:55As it gets smaller and smaller, it gets sadder and sadder because we had a very happy team.

0:43:55 > 0:43:59'I'm extremely upset about the personal comments.

0:43:59 > 0:44:05'She can't say the things she said about me and expect me to walk away from that.

0:44:05 > 0:44:11'She called me "Hitler". She might want to look to herself because she's a crazy bitch.'

0:44:11 > 0:44:14That woman had better not speak to me again!

0:44:16 > 0:44:19Congratulations. That's a lot of money.

0:44:19 > 0:44:24We're playing for charity and your money is going to a fantastic cause.

0:44:24 > 0:44:28- So there is always an upside... - I'm giving it to the Hitler Fund.

0:44:28 > 0:44:32- Oh, Annie, calm down. - Joan, don't speak to me. Seriously.

0:44:32 > 0:44:37- "Don't speak to me"? - She can never speak to me again. - You've made my day.

0:44:48 > 0:44:52- Hi. Ken Bacon.- Hi. Annie Duke. Nice to meet you.- Come on in.

0:44:53 > 0:44:57My charity is Refugees International and Ken Bacon from the charity

0:44:57 > 0:45:02is so committed to that charity and has done amazing work.

0:45:02 > 0:45:05Refugees are really a sign of instability.

0:45:05 > 0:45:10A world with fewer refugees is a more stable world, a safer world, so we all benefit.

0:45:10 > 0:45:14I'm extremely committed to this. I'm very proud to represent you.

0:45:14 > 0:45:20- We held an event the other night where we sold some beautiful jewellery, so that's for you.- Wow!

0:45:21 > 0:45:24Holy mackerel! This is great!

0:45:24 > 0:45:27This is amazing - 245,000 dollars!

0:45:27 > 0:45:29I've never had a cheque this big.

0:45:29 > 0:45:33'This was a great surprise'

0:45:33 > 0:45:35and a huge boost for our work.

0:45:35 > 0:45:42- This is really great. I'll think of you out on the poker tables earning money for refugees.- Exactly.

0:45:48 > 0:45:50Beautiful.

0:45:56 > 0:45:59- Good morning. - ALL: Good morning.

0:45:59 > 0:46:03We're standing in my dining room at Trump Tower.

0:46:03 > 0:46:10Now, I love food and what's happening, especially with the economy not doing so well,

0:46:10 > 0:46:14people are going to frozen foods.

0:46:14 > 0:46:17It's nutritious, it's fast, it's good.

0:46:17 > 0:46:21One of the great makers of frozen foods is Schwan's

0:46:21 > 0:46:25and with me is a great executive, Scott McNair of Schwan's.

0:46:25 > 0:46:27Scott, what would you like them to do?

0:46:27 > 0:46:35For over 50 years, Schwan's has delivered restaurant-quality food to our customers' doors.

0:46:35 > 0:46:39Your task is to create a new signature meal for Schwan's LiveSmart brand.

0:46:39 > 0:46:45LiveSmart is our health and wellness platform. We look for healthy solutions for the family.

0:46:45 > 0:46:51Additionally, you will create a new marketing campaign for Schwan's LiveSmart brand.

0:46:51 > 0:46:58- You'll be judged on taste, originality and then lastly, your marketing campaign.- Thank you, Scott.

0:46:58 > 0:47:00Now, Ivanka will be with me

0:47:00 > 0:47:05and Joe Kernen from CNBC's Squawk Box.

0:47:05 > 0:47:09He's probably the most important financial reporter there is,

0:47:09 > 0:47:13so it's really nice to have Joe and Ivanka. They'll be working with us.

0:47:13 > 0:47:17We're going to Fresco By Scotto, one of my favourite restaurants.

0:47:17 > 0:47:22Scott and his executives are going to eat your food and if he likes it, great.

0:47:22 > 0:47:25If he doesn't like it, you lose.

0:47:25 > 0:47:28Who are your project managers?

0:47:28 > 0:47:31Jesse, finally, you're project manager. Good luck.

0:47:31 > 0:47:35'The time was right for me to be project manager.'

0:47:35 > 0:47:38My job will be to keep the in-fighting to a minimum,

0:47:38 > 0:47:41so we can focus on doing a good job.

0:47:41 > 0:47:44KOTU? Herschel, you'll do it again. Great job.

0:47:44 > 0:47:47'Joan wanted me as she's not comfortable with Clint.'

0:47:47 > 0:47:50Clint's not comfortable with Joan.

0:47:50 > 0:47:55'But there's only three of us, so we've either got to get along or this is not going to work.'

0:47:55 > 0:48:01The project manager of the winning team will get 20,000 for their charity.

0:48:01 > 0:48:08The losing team will go to the boardroom. Somebody will be fired. OK? Thank you. Have a good time.

0:48:26 > 0:48:28Hey, how are you?

0:48:28 > 0:48:31- How are you doing? - Hey, Herschel. Bob.

0:48:31 > 0:48:38'The judges were the executives from Schwan's and they were judging us on taste, originality'

0:48:38 > 0:48:41and how we'd present it in a marketing situation.

0:48:41 > 0:48:47Primarily, what we do is deliver frozen food to customers at their door at their homes.

0:48:47 > 0:48:50We have people called CSMs which are Customer Service Managers.

0:48:50 > 0:48:53They ultimately sell the product.

0:48:53 > 0:48:58- CSMs are very important? - Hugely important. They're the face of our company.

0:48:58 > 0:49:02We're looking for something unique, not something we do that's better.

0:49:02 > 0:49:09- It's got to taste great.- Yeah. You can have the best marketing campaign. If it don't taste good, who wants it?

0:49:09 > 0:49:10Right.

0:49:10 > 0:49:13LiveSmart is all about eating well and living well.

0:49:13 > 0:49:17And it has to do with calories, fat and sodium.

0:49:17 > 0:49:21Keep in mind that all the consumers are looking for convenience,

0:49:21 > 0:49:27so you make up this new whatever and then how do we message that out to our consumer?

0:49:27 > 0:49:33'These guys were pretty forthcoming on what they wanted, but they have a particular way of doing things.

0:49:33 > 0:49:37'I don't want to re-design their whole company,'

0:49:37 > 0:49:39just create a new meal for their line.

0:49:39 > 0:49:45- Good luck. I look forward to seeing you tomorrow.- Thank you very much. - Nice meeting you. Thanks.

0:49:46 > 0:49:50- Let's pin down what we're going to make.- Here are their top sellers.

0:49:50 > 0:49:55The Italian-style meatballs is their number two best-seller.

0:49:55 > 0:49:59'We started researching the Schwan's brand. On their regular menu,'

0:49:59 > 0:50:03Italian-style meatballs are one of their best-sellers.

0:50:03 > 0:50:06'It's not on their low-fat menu.'

0:50:06 > 0:50:10- I'd do turkey meatballs.- It doesn't sound like, "Wow, got to eat that!"

0:50:10 > 0:50:15Turkey meatballs are almost always dry. I make moist turkey meatballs.

0:50:15 > 0:50:18What's that new item that no-one's hitting on?

0:50:18 > 0:50:21We can do penne pasta with mini turkey meatballs.

0:50:21 > 0:50:25'Annie was obsessed with turkey meatballs.'

0:50:25 > 0:50:29Annie mode is she is going to get her way, come hell or high water,

0:50:29 > 0:50:33and to get her to give up on an idea is impossible.

0:50:33 > 0:50:37What do you want to eat if you get home at nine o'clock at night?

0:50:37 > 0:50:40Spaghetti and meatballs.

0:50:41 > 0:50:45What's the next best alternative? Healthy, though.

0:50:45 > 0:50:48- I like a chilli or a soup. - Meatloaf and mashed potatoes.

0:50:48 > 0:50:53Also with the turkey meatballs, you make it with gluten-free pasta.

0:50:53 > 0:50:59That adds a new aspect to their LiveSmart line. People are really interested in gluten-free.

0:50:59 > 0:51:02Annie's dead set on making what she's going to make,

0:51:02 > 0:51:07but I'm trying to be a leader and keep the drama to an absolute minimum.

0:51:07 > 0:51:13We've got a bunch of good ideas. We'll make three and pick the tastiest one that we all agree on.

0:51:13 > 0:51:19We're doing the turkey meatballs with pasta, the chilli and meatloaf with sweet potatoes.

0:51:19 > 0:51:25- So if you guys want to cook, you two...- You and I can do marketing. - I'll handle marketing stuff.

0:51:25 > 0:51:29'Given the tension, I chose to keep Melissa with me

0:51:29 > 0:51:32'and send Brande with Annie to cook.'

0:51:32 > 0:51:38If there are two strong-willed girls clashing in the kitchen, guess what will suffer - our food.

0:51:38 > 0:51:43I don't want to have too many cooks in the kitchen.

0:51:43 > 0:51:45Badda-badda-boom!

0:51:55 > 0:51:57Does anyone want to cook?

0:51:57 > 0:52:00Don't even look at me.

0:52:00 > 0:52:03I do a couple of things really well, but not a lot of things.

0:52:03 > 0:52:05So I'm going to be the chef.

0:52:05 > 0:52:11- I'll either do sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes. Which one? - You're our chef. What do you think?

0:52:11 > 0:52:15This is like the task from hell for me.

0:52:15 > 0:52:17'My cooking is so bad,'

0:52:17 > 0:52:21Melissa's first words were, "Room service."

0:52:21 > 0:52:24Miss Rivers, look at this. It tells you what is good.

0:52:24 > 0:52:28"99% of customers would recommend this product to a friend."

0:52:28 > 0:52:33- It's a skinless chicken breast. And look at the rating on it. - That's a great rating.

0:52:33 > 0:52:38So we know now it's going to have to be a skinless chicken breast.

0:52:38 > 0:52:44Even though it's a popular item, my concern is that this isn't going to be original enough.

0:52:46 > 0:52:52I'm staying with the chicken breast because their consumers prefer chicken breast over anything else.

0:52:52 > 0:52:56'I wasn't convinced chicken really was the way to go,

0:52:56 > 0:53:00'but people think all Clint wants to do is argue,

0:53:00 > 0:53:03'so I've reduced my debating to nil.'

0:53:03 > 0:53:08I suggested a dish I have at home all the time - ginger soy chicken.

0:53:08 > 0:53:13If you pan-fry that chicken, slow-cook, pan-fry that chicken

0:53:13 > 0:53:16in a ginger soy sauce, it'll be delicious.

0:53:16 > 0:53:22'I wanted to stay with skinless chicken breast, but I'm not a meat eater, so I needed a recipe.

0:53:22 > 0:53:25'Clint came up with his wife's recipe.'

0:53:25 > 0:53:28It was very simple and I thought it was a great idea.

0:53:28 > 0:53:32- How's it going?- Good. How are you? - Good. Good to see you.

0:53:32 > 0:53:35So explain to me what you are doing.

0:53:35 > 0:53:39- We're...- Herschel decided to go with a recipe that we make at home.

0:53:39 > 0:53:46- OK.- A soy ginger sauce and slow-cook the chicken breast, so it'll absorb as much of that sauce as possible.

0:53:46 > 0:53:49- You must know a little bit about nutrition.- I do.

0:53:49 > 0:53:55- Is that why you're project manager? - No, I'm project manager because we've been losing.

0:53:55 > 0:54:01'KOTU's track record at this point sucks and I think Herschel is pretty intent on changing it.'

0:54:01 > 0:54:07Do people like soy ginger chicken? My father would never eat it, but I would, so we'll see what happens.

0:54:07 > 0:54:11- Bye, guys. Have fun.- See you. - Good luck.- Thank you.

0:54:12 > 0:54:17OK, we got sweet potato, chicken, green beans. We got three items right here.

0:54:17 > 0:54:23- You need a dessert. - The dessert I'm thinking we'll do is almost like a parfait.- Right.

0:54:23 > 0:54:28All you need is frozen yogurt, some berries and all of that stuff.

0:54:28 > 0:54:31That'll be pretty easy.

0:54:34 > 0:54:36Oh, I hope our stuff tastes good.

0:54:36 > 0:54:40'I worked with Jesse on all the marketing'

0:54:40 > 0:54:42while Annie and Brande hit the kitchen.

0:54:42 > 0:54:45So we could divvy up, two and two.

0:54:45 > 0:54:48So what do we want to do for the marketing?

0:54:53 > 0:54:57You know, a little handout, a little trifle, you know what I mean?

0:54:58 > 0:55:02Do we want to design something for the website

0:55:02 > 0:55:05or any of that kind of stuff?

0:55:05 > 0:55:08Oh, I think we should touch on...

0:55:13 > 0:55:18'I kept saying to him, "Jesse, tell me what you want me to do."'

0:55:18 > 0:55:21I felt it wasn't clear what the campaign was.

0:55:21 > 0:55:24- Hi.- Hi. How are you?

0:55:24 > 0:55:29- What did you come up with? What are you thinking?- Three items and we'll pick the best of the three.

0:55:29 > 0:55:36- What are the three?- We have turkey meatballs, we're doing a chilli with a cornbread and a meatloaf.

0:55:36 > 0:55:42- Now we've just got to figure out someone who can cook all three of these.- We have that.

0:55:42 > 0:55:45- Hello. - Gosh, we have all the groceries.

0:55:45 > 0:55:49- You're cooking all these things up? - She's helping me.

0:55:49 > 0:55:53Do you think there's a premium put on something innovative or new?

0:55:53 > 0:55:57- We have gluten-free pasta. - Who would eat gluten-free?

0:55:57 > 0:56:01The people who need gluten-free have wheat allergies or coeliac disease.

0:56:01 > 0:56:04I think it's good that they have a real cook,

0:56:04 > 0:56:06but if the meal tastes like crap,

0:56:06 > 0:56:10I'd say that Annie was talking a good game,

0:56:10 > 0:56:14but couldn't deliver where she needed to.

0:56:18 > 0:56:22I'm doing the olive oil. I'm going to soften the onions up.

0:56:22 > 0:56:26'For this task, we were given a Schwan's food specialist.'

0:56:26 > 0:56:30They would make sure that the recipes were within the guidelines.

0:56:30 > 0:56:37- Were you surprised when I asked if I can toast it?- You know how to prepare your spices.- I'm fast with a knife.

0:56:37 > 0:56:40'I had to do three different savoury dishes.

0:56:40 > 0:56:46'You have to have someone who's a fast cook and I'm a fast cook because I've got to cook for four kids.'

0:56:46 > 0:56:50I can knock out relatively complex dishes really quickly.

0:56:50 > 0:56:54Brande, see how fast I am? The chefs are impressed with my knife work.

0:56:57 > 0:57:00Annie has a lot of energy, likes to talk, talk, talk.

0:57:00 > 0:57:04I can knock three dishes out in the time that they can knock one out.

0:57:04 > 0:57:06Look! That took me two minutes.

0:57:06 > 0:57:12BRANDE: 'I've been irritated by her. Not many people could spend a day with Annie.'

0:57:12 > 0:57:19- I'm the total woman. I can cook, I raise my children, I work hard. And I give a good...- BLEEP- ..job.

0:57:22 > 0:57:25We just buy plain yogurt,

0:57:25 > 0:57:30then I think the executives say, "This we can't freeze and then thaw."

0:57:30 > 0:57:34'I wanted the frozen yogurt dessert, but it had to be made from scratch,'

0:57:34 > 0:57:36so why not use just plain yogurt?

0:57:36 > 0:57:40That's what I'm saying. You use frozen yogurt,

0:57:40 > 0:57:44but we're making a dessert which is our own, using yogurt,

0:57:44 > 0:57:48but it's going to be frozen yogurt because that's what you use anyway.

0:57:52 > 0:57:55- But it's like saying... - That's what I'm saying.

0:57:55 > 0:58:01- It's like saying we're going to serve chicken, but we'll use beef for this presentation.- No, it's not.

0:58:01 > 0:58:05It's two different things. You argue a lot about everything, Clint.

0:58:05 > 0:58:11'Clint is arguing with me about the dessert. Everything he knows is better than what you do.'

0:58:11 > 0:58:14But I have to take responsibility for the meal.

0:58:14 > 0:58:19- I'm in the food business. - If you want to use yogurt... - You argue about everything.

0:58:19 > 0:58:25- I'll back you up if you want to use it.- I bet my food company makes more than your record company.

0:58:25 > 0:58:30'My argument about the yogurt... I wanted to protect my project manager.'

0:58:30 > 0:58:33If the executives say, "This is ridiculous,

0:58:33 > 0:58:36"this dessert can't be frozen and thawed successfully,"

0:58:36 > 0:58:42maybe what I'm supposed to learn from this is that this is a game - let him hang himself.

0:58:56 > 0:59:00He's putting all this special love into the sauce too.

0:59:00 > 0:59:02It will make the chicken unique.

0:59:02 > 0:59:08'Even though I may have delegated what I wanted everyone to do, Clint decided he wanted to cook too.'

0:59:08 > 0:59:10That's tasting right.

0:59:10 > 0:59:14He wanted to do the whole test. We should've made him project manager.

0:59:16 > 0:59:21'Originally, Clint said his wife had a lovely chicken recipe.

0:59:21 > 0:59:23'But it was real salty.'

0:59:23 > 0:59:26It was not a great sauce.

0:59:28 > 0:59:32'My greatest concern is since I don't eat chicken,

0:59:32 > 0:59:36'I had to rely on Joan to say what was good and bad and she was honest.'

0:59:36 > 0:59:39- That's very salty.- Yeah.

0:59:39 > 0:59:44'It was so horrible. Think of drinking a glass of soy sauce'

0:59:44 > 0:59:46and then licking a piece of chicken.

0:59:46 > 0:59:49It was soy sauce garnished with chicken.

0:59:49 > 0:59:53It was the reverse of what we wanted. It was just terrible.

0:59:53 > 0:59:58- We want a kiss of soy. We don't want...- That's not the recipe, though.- It doesn't matter.

0:59:58 > 1:00:02If you change the recipe, it's no longer soy.

1:00:02 > 1:00:06Oh, you can call it "soy" as long as it smells like soy.

1:00:06 > 1:00:09- Can we add like an orange flavour to it?- That's good.

1:00:09 > 1:00:13- Well, we have oranges. Let's make our own juice.- Yeah.

1:00:13 > 1:00:16Clint's terrible soy sauce recipe didn't work,

1:00:16 > 1:00:18so we've got to fix this.

1:00:18 > 1:00:22So we came up with putting orange juice in it.

1:00:24 > 1:00:29- Pretty good.- Yeah, I think it'll help.- I think it has.- Yeah.

1:00:29 > 1:00:35So by adding orange juice to the soy sauce, it made a delicious new kind of chicken.

1:00:35 > 1:00:38- Asian orange chicken.- I like it.

1:00:46 > 1:00:50- Something smells good.- This had better be good or it's your ass!

1:00:50 > 1:00:54'Once the cooking was done, Annie and Brande wanted me'

1:00:54 > 1:00:56to make the final decision

1:00:56 > 1:00:59on which item we'll go with for our new meal.

1:00:59 > 1:01:02I want you to taste the meatloaf. I think it's sublime.

1:01:05 > 1:01:07It's good.

1:01:07 > 1:01:11The meatloaf was good, really clean-tasting, but I didn't like it.

1:01:11 > 1:01:13OK, so here is the chilli.

1:01:15 > 1:01:19- It's good.- That's good. - Wow!- It smells good.

1:01:19 > 1:01:22Jesse James likes my chilli.

1:01:22 > 1:01:27As soon as I tried the chilli, I was like, "Chilli, chilli, chilli, chilli!"

1:01:27 > 1:01:29- HE FARTS - Oh, yeah!

1:01:31 > 1:01:33It's good chilli, man. What can I say?

1:01:33 > 1:01:38OK, I need you to try this spaghetti and meatballs.

1:01:38 > 1:01:42- It's good. It's not as good as the chilli, though.- No.

1:01:42 > 1:01:47But there can only be one that I like the best. It's the chilli.

1:01:47 > 1:01:51I think the spaghetti and meatballs is better and I made all of them.

1:01:51 > 1:01:57- Which one do you like, Brande? - I like them both, but the chilli is easy to just take out of a can,

1:01:57 > 1:02:01- but this kind of stuff is so original and different.- I like the meatballs.

1:02:01 > 1:02:06- It's your decision, ultimately.- Three meatballs?- You get three meatballs.

1:02:06 > 1:02:08- Let's go with that.- OK.

1:02:08 > 1:02:13'I think I succumbed to peer pressure, but keeping the girls together as a team'

1:02:13 > 1:02:17and have everybody focused on one project and one idea,

1:02:17 > 1:02:20I think it was the wise decision.

1:02:20 > 1:02:22OK, we're not doing chilli.

1:02:22 > 1:02:26Get through that stuff, then I'm going to go finish...

1:02:31 > 1:02:36- So, marketing, are you going to work with me on that, Joan?- Yeah.

1:02:36 > 1:02:40What kind of a marketing campaign are you thinking of, Herschel?

1:02:40 > 1:02:43Remember how the CSM is very important to them?

1:02:43 > 1:02:48So how about an ad where one of their CSMs shows up at my bus?

1:02:52 > 1:02:55'Clint loves to be in front of the camera.'

1:02:55 > 1:02:58He'd leave Joan and I out in the cold.'

1:02:58 > 1:03:02We can talk about, "Look, if you go with our campaign,

1:03:02 > 1:03:05"you show up and you bring food to Clint Black on tour.

1:03:05 > 1:03:09"He opens the door to his bus and it's his meals."

1:03:09 > 1:03:12'Herschel was supposed to be making the decisions,'

1:03:12 > 1:03:16but Clint decided it was going to be about celebrity endorsement.

1:03:16 > 1:03:19'Clint is going to do what Clint wants to do.'

1:03:19 > 1:03:21That's a good spot.

1:03:29 > 1:03:32We just need a name.

1:03:33 > 1:03:35Two-Timing Turkey Meatballs.

1:03:35 > 1:03:37- No.- Full House Turkey.

1:03:37 > 1:03:41Jesse James "Who You Callin' Turkey" Turkey Meatballs.

1:03:41 > 1:03:45- What else do you need me to do? - Touchdown Turkey Meatballs. Talking Turkey.

1:03:45 > 1:03:48I Ain't A Swan, I'm A Turkey Meatball.

1:03:48 > 1:03:54- You guys have seriously been sitting down here too long. Clearly! - What gives you that idea?

1:03:54 > 1:03:59There's three meatballs in each serving, so you can do Three Of A Kind if you want.

1:03:59 > 1:04:02- Triple Play Turkey Meatballs. - There you go.- Good.

1:04:02 > 1:04:07- Jesse, is there anything you want us to do right now?- No, we're good.

1:04:07 > 1:04:10- Who's doing the presentation? - I'll do it.

1:04:10 > 1:04:14Did you guys figure everything out? Is there anything...?

1:04:14 > 1:04:16- I got it. We're good.- You got it?

1:04:17 > 1:04:23'I was concerned about the presentation as well as the marketing part.'

1:04:23 > 1:04:25Jesse wouldn't tell us what it is.

1:04:25 > 1:04:32- You can go. I'll finish this.- You don't need help with presentation? - No, I'm good.- Thank you, Jesse.

1:04:32 > 1:04:36'I feel like Jesse's had a bit of a wall between him and his team.

1:04:36 > 1:04:41'He has some idea of what that marketing campaign will look like,'

1:04:41 > 1:04:43but he isn't being open to suggestions.

1:04:43 > 1:04:45I felt a little bit locked out.

1:04:45 > 1:04:48- Good night.- Good night.

1:04:55 > 1:04:57- Good afternoon. - Hello.

1:04:57 > 1:05:03This has been a great adventure for all of us, especially me cos I am not a cook.

1:05:05 > 1:05:09Now, please welcome Orange Asian Soy Chicken.

1:05:09 > 1:05:15Why this is a new concept is because there is so much "East meets West" these days.

1:05:15 > 1:05:17I mean, it's one world now.

1:05:17 > 1:05:21There is orange juice from the West, soy from the East,

1:05:21 > 1:05:25French green beans, also sweet potatoes.

1:05:25 > 1:05:30A delicious, healthy meal that consists of 480 calories.

1:05:31 > 1:05:35So while you're eating, I'll just do all the talking.

1:05:35 > 1:05:39We've created an outline of a marketing campaign.

1:05:39 > 1:05:46This can be done most effectively through television by showing your CSM ringing the bell on a tour bus.

1:05:46 > 1:05:51Clint Black opens the door, accepts these great meals and delivers to the camera,

1:05:51 > 1:05:57"Home-cooked meals won't follow me around on a concert tour, but LiveSmart will.

1:05:57 > 1:06:02- "No matter what your family loves to eat, Schwan's LiveSmart delivers every time."- OK.

1:06:02 > 1:06:06- You must try the dessert. - Is it part of your meal?

1:06:06 > 1:06:09Yes, it would come separately packaged, but with the meal.

1:06:09 > 1:06:13- That's good. Really interesting. - Thank you so much.

1:06:13 > 1:06:14Thank you.

1:06:14 > 1:06:19'I think it went much better than I thought it was going to go.'

1:06:19 > 1:06:22The food was edible. We have a good chance of winning.

1:06:22 > 1:06:29- I like the chicken. I thought it had great flavour.- The flavours are all good on this.- Yeah, absolutely.

1:06:29 > 1:06:37- How do you think their dessert comes out?- I'm not sure how you can freeze a yogurt in that way.

1:06:37 > 1:06:39This I get in one of our packages.

1:06:39 > 1:06:42That is like two packages, maybe three.

1:06:42 > 1:06:46You'll have a granola packet, a berry packet and a yogurt packet.

1:06:46 > 1:06:50- That adds a lot.- That adds a lot. That's exactly right.

1:06:52 > 1:06:54- Hi.- Hi.

1:06:54 > 1:06:57- How are you? - Good. How are you?

1:06:57 > 1:07:01- This is our version of spaghetti and meatballs.- Yeah, yeah.

1:07:01 > 1:07:07- My name is Jesse James. I'll give you some facts about the new meal you're going to eat.- Great.

1:07:07 > 1:07:13The Triple Play Turkey Meatballs, gluten-free pasta and delicious apple berry crisp for dessert.

1:07:13 > 1:07:17You're thinking, "It's just a fancy version of spaghetti and meatballs."

1:07:17 > 1:07:22But we've taken an old favourite and adapted it into a meal you can feel good about eating

1:07:22 > 1:07:29and still get the full satisfaction of having that hearty-made-healthy comfort food.

1:07:29 > 1:07:33The meatballs come with gluten-free pasta and a tomato basil sauce.

1:07:33 > 1:07:39The gluten-free market is one of the fastest-growing segments in the food industry,

1:07:39 > 1:07:42as people develop wheat allergies or coeliac disease.

1:07:42 > 1:07:45And instead of using breadcrumbs for filler,

1:07:45 > 1:07:51we used a mix of vegetables such as sweet red onion, garlic, mushrooms and spinach.

1:07:51 > 1:07:56The added bonus is you get your kids to eat spinach now without them even knowing it's in there.

1:07:56 > 1:08:02'I was really worried about the presentation because Jesse wouldn't tell us what would be said.'

1:08:02 > 1:08:06But in the end, he pulled it off. He looked adorable and cute.

1:08:06 > 1:08:12- 'He did a great job.'- It's hearty-made-healthy because Schwan's take the hassle out of healthy.

1:08:12 > 1:08:16- Thank you very much. - Thank you very much. Thank you.

1:08:16 > 1:08:22The only thing I'm worried about is the marketing part of the campaign. That's the only thing it was lacking.

1:08:22 > 1:08:29I like the innovation of it. Gluten is hot. There's no doubt about that. They did their homework.

1:08:29 > 1:08:32The vegetables inside the meatballs is a good idea.

1:08:32 > 1:08:37- Where was the marketing?- I missed the marketing.- Was it that sign?

1:08:37 > 1:08:40- There wasn't any.- Yeah. - No marketing campaign.

1:08:40 > 1:08:44It'll be a tough decision. Each one of those teams had some good points

1:08:44 > 1:08:48- and some things they missed. - Yeah, for sure.

1:09:12 > 1:09:16- Hello, Herschel.- Hello there. - How do you think your team did?

1:09:16 > 1:09:21- I think we did well. It was tough. - How did Joan do?- She did very well.

1:09:21 > 1:09:28I've watched Joan for many years and she always makes people laugh about her non-cooking ability.

1:09:28 > 1:09:34Well, we decided early on she was not going to be the cook, so that was easy.

1:09:34 > 1:09:37- How did Clint do?- Clint is Clint. - What does that mean?

1:09:37 > 1:09:41Clint don't like to listen too well, but he works.

1:09:41 > 1:09:44Who did the better job between Clint and Joan?

1:09:46 > 1:09:50- Oh, you're putting me on the spot. - Early.- I think Joan did.

1:09:50 > 1:09:55- Why?- Joan knew what she had to do. I gave out what everyone was supposed to do.

1:09:55 > 1:10:00I would be the cook, Joan would work on the presentation, Clint would do the marketing.

1:10:00 > 1:10:04Then it ended up that Clint wanted to be the cook.

1:10:04 > 1:10:10- Clint, why is that?- Herschel chose to go with a chicken recipe that we make in my home.

1:10:10 > 1:10:14- Did you agree with it? - I was resistant.

1:10:14 > 1:10:16Why?

1:10:16 > 1:10:23The executives, I thought, made it clear that they wanted something very different than what they had.

1:10:23 > 1:10:28- Do you think this is something they had?- I think they had a lot of chicken dinners,

1:10:28 > 1:10:32so I voiced my opinion, but I was supportive of his decision.

1:10:32 > 1:10:38- I didn't hear you voice your opinion.- I'm perfectly confident that I remember this right.

1:10:38 > 1:10:42Herschel wanted to go with chicken. I said I had a great chicken recipe.

1:10:42 > 1:10:46It was my decision, but I didn't hear him voice his opinion.

1:10:46 > 1:10:49What did you think of Herschel as a project manager?

1:10:49 > 1:10:52Well, I think Herschel is a strong leader.

1:10:52 > 1:10:57I do have to take exception with the "Clint doesn't listen" part.

1:10:57 > 1:11:01There was one issue that I was concerned about

1:11:01 > 1:11:05and, really, I was trying to have Herschel's back.

1:11:05 > 1:11:07With him being the project manager,

1:11:07 > 1:11:14if he chose plain yogurt for the menu that wouldn't freeze and thaw well, we shouldn't use it,

1:11:14 > 1:11:18- and he argued that...- No, I didn't argue.- Let me finish.- No, no.

1:11:18 > 1:11:22- I'm trying to defend myself. - You're not telling the truth.

1:11:22 > 1:11:27- Herschel, let him go, then you go. - He talks me down until I have to be quiet finally.

1:11:27 > 1:11:29Go ahead. Go ahead, Clint.

1:11:29 > 1:11:33Possibly I should have just let him...

1:11:33 > 1:11:39I was right and he was wrong. Being the project manager, I made the decision, but he argued with me.

1:11:39 > 1:11:43And Clint's problem is Clint sees nobody but Clint.

1:11:43 > 1:11:46When I first met Clint, I thought he was an only child.

1:11:46 > 1:11:51- Jesse, how did you feel about being project manager?- I felt good. - You were a good leader?

1:11:51 > 1:11:54- I think so.- A strong leader?

1:11:54 > 1:11:58- Yes.- OK, no more of that laid-back crap I think you do intentionally.

1:11:58 > 1:12:01Annie, how was he as a leader?

1:12:01 > 1:12:05Jesse did really well in certain aspects and not so well in others.

1:12:05 > 1:12:11- Where was he bad?- There were certain cases where he was relatively impervious to suggestion.

1:12:11 > 1:12:16He decided this was where we were going to go and he didn't take suggestions.

1:12:16 > 1:12:19Melissa, how did Annie and Jesse get along?

1:12:19 > 1:12:23- You have two very strong, stubborn personalities.- That's true.

1:12:23 > 1:12:27So there was a lot of polite, yet tense discussion.

1:12:27 > 1:12:32- I think we got along really well. - I didn't say you didn't get along.

1:12:32 > 1:12:37Melissa, you're saying the truth and it's going to be negated, so just don't defend people.

1:12:37 > 1:12:42- We just decided to make all the dishes.- Is Jesse an intense person? I can't figure him out.

1:12:42 > 1:12:48Joe, he marries one of the most sought after women in the world. People like us say, "That's cool."

1:12:48 > 1:12:52Yet he's so low-key. If you're with him, you say he's a stiff.

1:12:52 > 1:12:57How the hell did he marry Sandra Bullock? What did she see?

1:12:57 > 1:13:01She's totally in love with this guy. I can't believe it.

1:13:01 > 1:13:05- He's got to be great in bed. - Got to be great in bed.

1:13:05 > 1:13:09You've got to have something. Something's going on.

1:13:09 > 1:13:15OK, Joe, tell me what the executives liked about Athena.

1:13:15 > 1:13:23They liked about Athena that it was innovative and that you were using some gluten-free ingredients.

1:13:23 > 1:13:26The bad thing was the total lack of a marketing campaign.

1:13:28 > 1:13:34Thank you, Joe. Ivanka, what did the executives like about KOTU?

1:13:34 > 1:13:38The executives said they liked the fact that it was easy to create,

1:13:38 > 1:13:41that it tasted good.

1:13:41 > 1:13:44They also liked the fact that it was healthy.

1:13:44 > 1:13:50What they didn't like was the dessert. It was hard to put together. It has to be simple.

1:13:50 > 1:13:54They thought the dessert was overly complicated.

1:13:55 > 1:13:57Ready? Are you guys ready?

1:13:59 > 1:14:05The Schwan's executives really liked both a lot. That's the good news.

1:14:05 > 1:14:11But the really good news is for Athena, Jesse's team, because they liked yours more.

1:14:11 > 1:14:15I congratulate you. That's wonderful. Good job.

1:14:15 > 1:14:20Jesse, you're going to be getting 20,000 for your favourite charity, which is...?

1:14:20 > 1:14:24- It's the Long Beach Education Foundation.- What is that exactly?

1:14:24 > 1:14:30- It rebuilds industrial art programmes for kids in the inner city.- Good. Use the money well.

1:14:30 > 1:14:34- Jesse, congratulations.- I told you the gluten-free would work.

1:14:34 > 1:14:40Get out of here. Joan is seething. Every time you open your mouth, she gets angry. Get out of here.

1:14:46 > 1:14:49KOTU, as usual, somebody will be fired.

1:14:55 > 1:14:58Interesting position. You did pretty well as a team.

1:14:58 > 1:15:01Who would you fire, Clint?

1:15:03 > 1:15:07- Did you think you won? - I thought we won.

1:15:07 > 1:15:13- You weren't really happy with the product?- I was concerned we were giving them something they had.

1:15:13 > 1:15:16What would you have done differently, Clint?

1:15:16 > 1:15:20- I wouldn't have done the chicken. - What would you have done?

1:15:20 > 1:15:25That's really hard to say. We didn't really explore options for the entree.

1:15:25 > 1:15:31He was certain that chicken would be the right choice, based on customer satisfaction.

1:15:31 > 1:15:38- There are a lot of chicken dishes. You were to be innovative.- Right. - That was your main contention?- Yes.

1:15:38 > 1:15:42So you're on record then. Maybe you should have stood your ground.

1:15:42 > 1:15:47He never expressed that. He was the one who came up with the recipe.

1:15:47 > 1:15:50Because I don't eat chicken, I don't eat meat.

1:15:50 > 1:15:53And I asked, "What can we prepare?"

1:15:53 > 1:15:57If you don't eat meat, why were you the project manager, Herschel?

1:15:57 > 1:16:04I said Herschel should be project manager because Clint, when he gets a hold of something,

1:16:04 > 1:16:08he moves ahead and we wouldn't have had any input. I adore Clint.

1:16:08 > 1:16:11I think he's very stubborn.

1:16:11 > 1:16:16- You didn't adore him a number of weeks ago.- No.- You hated him. Not as much as you hated Annie.

1:16:16 > 1:16:22No, but Clint again, what he says, he means and that's it. There was no second side...

1:16:22 > 1:16:25Do you dislike Annie because she's on the other team?

1:16:25 > 1:16:30No, because she's always got a second agenda. She's a poker player.

1:16:30 > 1:16:35Oh, my Lord! She's so lost her mind. I can say the sky is blue and she's like, "She's a bitch!"

1:16:37 > 1:16:43- I like all this personal stuff, but can we get back to the marketing campaign?- Good. He's all business.

1:16:43 > 1:16:47- Did you assign Clint marketing, Herschel?- Yes, sir.

1:16:47 > 1:16:53I'll give you an example on Clint. If you notice, in the marketing campaign, Clint mentioned himself.

1:16:53 > 1:16:58He said, "Clint Black's bus," because he wants to be out there all the time.

1:16:58 > 1:17:04- I think he's become spoiled. - But Clint is a star. He's the biggest country music guy.

1:17:04 > 1:17:07Stars maybe do have a little bit of a different something in life.

1:17:07 > 1:17:09But at this task, he's not a star.

1:17:09 > 1:17:12He's working, doing the marketing.

1:17:12 > 1:17:16- Good point, Joseph. - Nobody's a star here. We're working.

1:17:16 > 1:17:19Herschel, you don't like Clint very much.

1:17:19 > 1:17:22- No, I do like him.- You do? - I can put up with Clint.

1:17:22 > 1:17:26- OK, but do you like Clint? - Yes, I like him.

1:17:26 > 1:17:30- Do you like Herschel?- I like him fine, but there were a few occasions

1:17:30 > 1:17:36where Herschel is confused about what I'm trying to say or he decides that discussing is arguing...

1:17:36 > 1:17:39Clint, the arguments on a weekly basis have been consistent

1:17:39 > 1:17:44against you that you don't listen to your team or the project manager.

1:17:44 > 1:17:46Is that a fault of yours?

1:17:46 > 1:17:51My idea of supporting your leader is discussing it calmly, putting forth your view

1:17:51 > 1:17:54until they make a decision and...

1:17:54 > 1:17:57Clint, you don't listen too much. Let's face it.

1:17:57 > 1:18:03Over the course of the last number of weeks, they have had a hard time. Joan's had the hardest time of all.

1:18:03 > 1:18:09What do you think of this, Joan? Was Clint controlled like he should be by a project manager?

1:18:09 > 1:18:14I think that Herschel... came up to bat.

1:18:14 > 1:18:18I'd like to take this unique opportunity to let everybody know

1:18:18 > 1:18:22I was the first one to suggest that Clint should be fired.

1:18:22 > 1:18:26Joan, who should I fire?

1:18:26 > 1:18:27Oh...

1:18:33 > 1:18:37- You hate this.- You make me cry. Here I go again.- I know.

1:18:37 > 1:18:39I have to say... Oh!

1:18:39 > 1:18:44OK. It's hard for you, Joan. How do you think I feel? Every week, I have to fire somebody.

1:18:44 > 1:18:51If I cried every time, it would be sad. They'd say, "He's pathetic! Trump cries when he fires somebody!"

1:18:51 > 1:18:55I never thought of it. Maybe I should do that.

1:18:55 > 1:18:58Anyway, this is a tough choice

1:18:58 > 1:19:00and I could have used some help, Joan.

1:19:04 > 1:19:09I think the hard part is that, in this particular case,

1:19:09 > 1:19:12Herschel, the project manager is at a huge disadvantage

1:19:12 > 1:19:17and being the project manager, not having total control over Clint... He's not easy.

1:19:17 > 1:19:21- May I say one thing?- Yes, go ahead.

1:19:21 > 1:19:27If I had come down on Clint, I would have lost Clint, then it would have just been the two of us.

1:19:27 > 1:19:32- Clint didn't want your product and you lost because of it. - It was his product.- No.

1:19:32 > 1:19:37Clint suggested the recipe, but it was your decision to go with the chicken.

1:19:37 > 1:19:40- It was also your dessert.- Yes.

1:19:40 > 1:19:46And the executives did say that the three components that you used were too complicated for the consumer.

1:19:46 > 1:19:48That's one of the reasons you lost.

1:19:48 > 1:19:52- Look, you've lost before, Herschel.- Yes.

1:19:52 > 1:19:58- You were the project manager. You know how much I like you.- Yes. - I love you.

1:19:58 > 1:20:02I am not a gay man and I love you, Herschel. Herschel, you're fired.

1:20:02 > 1:20:04- Thank you.- Good luck. Thank you.

1:20:06 > 1:20:09That's a tough one.

1:20:09 > 1:20:12- Thank you, Joan. - Thank you, thank you, thank you.

1:20:12 > 1:20:15This is devastating.

1:20:24 > 1:20:26Oh, sweetheart!

1:20:26 > 1:20:28I love you so much.

1:20:28 > 1:20:33I want to send your mother a letter because I want to tell her what she raised...

1:20:33 > 1:20:36She raised such a great man.

1:20:50 > 1:20:53Doing that was very hard.

1:21:21 > 1:21:24I think Mr Trump made the wrong decision.

1:21:24 > 1:21:27I felt Clint should have been the one to leave,

1:21:27 > 1:21:30but this is the way he felt and so I go with it.

1:21:30 > 1:21:35I had a great time on The Celebrity Apprentice. I met a lot of great people.

1:21:35 > 1:21:37That is worth more than anything.

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