0:00:04 > 0:00:06You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Go.
0:00:06 > 0:00:08Rocksolid, are we ready?
0:00:08 > 0:00:10Everyone is talking.
0:00:10 > 0:00:13- Lying piece of- BLEEP. - He betrays me in the job.
0:00:13 > 0:00:15I'm putting you in charge of this. Make the decision.
0:00:15 > 0:00:18Now I know why Dennis Rodman started drinking.
0:00:18 > 0:00:19The critics are raving.
0:00:19 > 0:00:20Goodbye.
0:00:20 > 0:00:21Ohh.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23Let's do it.
0:00:23 > 0:00:24Raising money for charity!
0:00:24 > 0:00:25She said Carol first.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27I don't know what to tell you to do, Bret,
0:00:27 > 0:00:29because I'm not the Project Manager.
0:00:29 > 0:00:31They can get their asses fired so fast,
0:00:31 > 0:00:32your head will spin.
0:00:32 > 0:00:34And we're just warming up.
0:00:34 > 0:00:37Muggles and wizards, Muggles and wizards.
0:00:37 > 0:00:39- Aaaah!- Aaaah!
0:00:39 > 0:00:41- Wing! - SHE SNORTS
0:00:41 > 0:00:43- BLEEP- sake, Cyndi, shut up!
0:00:43 > 0:00:46- Rosie O'Donnell.- Ugh. She's disgusting.
0:00:46 > 0:00:46Let's go!
0:00:46 > 0:00:48My brain to my mouth sometimes is a disaster.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50Dumb bitches.
0:00:50 > 0:00:53As the celebrities fight to survive the pressure...
0:00:53 > 0:00:55Her wordiness can be a little difficult.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57- You're throwing me under the truck. - No, no, no, I'm not.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59..ass on the line, start throwing people under the bus.
0:00:59 > 0:01:00Rod! Rod!
0:01:00 > 0:01:02Don't tell me what to do.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04Don't forget...
0:01:04 > 0:01:05What I'm saying is
0:01:05 > 0:01:07- you're getting me hyped up, so I- BLEEP- explode.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09..everything is happening on the streets.
0:01:09 > 0:01:10I think that we can win this.
0:01:11 > 0:01:12No, no, no. Hi.
0:01:12 > 0:01:16Every rug that we used, I carried one.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19And anything can happen in the boardroom.
0:01:19 > 0:01:20You all know an answer.
0:01:20 > 0:01:21But somebody's got to be fired.
0:01:21 > 0:01:24- I was sticking up for you. - It's all bull- BLEEP.
0:01:24 > 0:01:27Just relax. Can I finish or not?
0:01:27 > 0:01:32- I wish you people could answer the- BLEEP- damn- BLEEP- question.
0:01:32 > 0:01:36Who knows what will happen next?
0:01:36 > 0:01:38Smile!
0:01:42 > 0:01:46- This is a reality check. Go- BLEEP- yourself.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50Last week, the teams were given some surprising news.
0:01:50 > 0:01:51Sharon's not here.
0:01:51 > 0:01:52She's been sick as a dog.
0:01:52 > 0:01:53We weren't going to have Sharon,
0:01:53 > 0:01:57so I felt a little bit cheated as Project Manager.
0:01:57 > 0:01:59Tasked with creating two commercials for Right Guard
0:01:59 > 0:02:01starring NBA legends Clyde Drexler
0:02:01 > 0:02:04and Scottie Pippin, Maria Kanellis questioned
0:02:04 > 0:02:07if Selita Ebanks was pulling her weight.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09Here I am carrying a sink and fridge,
0:02:09 > 0:02:12but Selita disappeared on me.
0:02:12 > 0:02:13That girl is strong.
0:02:13 > 0:02:14On Rocksolid,
0:02:14 > 0:02:17Bret Michaels received difficult news about his daughter.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20My daughter... they're testing her for diabetes,
0:02:20 > 0:02:21so I'm freaking out right now.
0:02:21 > 0:02:25And family matters took Michael Johnson out of the competition.
0:02:25 > 0:02:27Take care of your family. We love you, brother.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29We're going to miss you.
0:02:29 > 0:02:30In the boardroom,
0:02:30 > 0:02:33Rocksolid's losing streak finally came to an end...
0:02:33 > 0:02:35They loved the men's commercial.
0:02:35 > 0:02:36Yes!
0:02:36 > 0:02:39..leaving Tenacity to battle it out.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41Can I say something?
0:02:41 > 0:02:42Cyndi, you're not even coming back in.
0:02:42 > 0:02:44- You should just be sitting back.- OK.
0:02:44 > 0:02:45Oh, thanks, Mom(!)
0:02:45 > 0:02:46But it was Selita's silence
0:02:46 > 0:02:48that singled her out.
0:02:48 > 0:02:49I'm looking at Selita,
0:02:49 > 0:02:53and I don't see the same fire in your belly.
0:02:53 > 0:02:54Selita, you're fired. Go.
0:03:03 > 0:03:05Listen, between my daughter and this,
0:03:05 > 0:03:07I said, "If I lose tonight"... I was sitting in that chair.
0:03:07 > 0:03:09I'm like, "If I lose, I may just walk
0:03:09 > 0:03:11- "right to the- BLEEP- highest window and just..."
0:03:11 > 0:03:13It's been way too long since we won,
0:03:13 > 0:03:14and let me tell you something...
0:03:14 > 0:03:16Tonight, with everything that's going on
0:03:16 > 0:03:18in my personal life with my daughter,
0:03:18 > 0:03:20I was willing it to win.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22Yeah, but what about the test results? They come tomorrow?
0:03:22 > 0:03:25They're supposed to come today, and we haven't gotten them yet.
0:03:25 > 0:03:26Let's drink. Come on.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28I'll find out about my daughter tomorrow,
0:03:28 > 0:03:33and this is the beginning of a positive great karma right here.
0:03:33 > 0:03:34She is not going to be diabetic.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36It's going to be negative, and we're going to rock.
0:03:36 > 0:03:37It's going to be great.
0:03:37 > 0:03:39It was a really tough thing to direct.
0:03:39 > 0:03:41Honey, it was a very tough thing.
0:03:41 > 0:03:43She was... She was acting it, and she was directing it.
0:03:43 > 0:03:44But that's the problem.
0:03:44 > 0:03:48I mean, it was all about Holly, not for nothing,
0:03:48 > 0:03:51and then she turns around to me and tells me what to do.
0:03:51 > 0:03:53I don't need a mother.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55The younguns...they don't listen.
0:03:55 > 0:03:57They turn their backs and ignore what I'm saying,
0:03:57 > 0:04:00and I feel like, "Big mistake."
0:04:02 > 0:04:04Uh-oh. Here we go.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07Hey, guys.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- Aww.- Hi.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- Selita!- Hi.
0:04:12 > 0:04:13Why Selita?
0:04:13 > 0:04:15I don't know.
0:04:15 > 0:04:17Are you OK?
0:04:17 > 0:04:19I'm good. I'm good, yeah.
0:04:19 > 0:04:21'I was very disappointed in the boardroom.
0:04:21 > 0:04:22'We were at a disadvantage.'
0:04:22 > 0:04:25We got one person who's sick, Sharon Osbourne,
0:04:25 > 0:04:26and then we had Cyndi Lauper.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30Somehow she had all this observation
0:04:30 > 0:04:32of a task that she wasn't even really present for.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34So now you're mad at me?
0:04:34 > 0:04:36I just felt like you were safe and exempt,
0:04:36 > 0:04:39- and at that point... - I didn't want them to fire Selita!
0:04:39 > 0:04:40I didn't want them to do it,
0:04:40 > 0:04:41but you weren't... you were defending...
0:04:41 > 0:04:43You can do whatever you want to do, Cyndi...
0:04:43 > 0:04:44whatever you want to do.
0:04:44 > 0:04:46The Kumbaya moment is over.
0:04:46 > 0:04:48I didn't want Selita to go, either.
0:04:48 > 0:04:51- I didn't want Maria to go. - All right, zip it. Zip.
0:04:51 > 0:04:55RIP Kumbaya, because now it's game on.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04# Money, money, money, money
0:05:04 > 0:05:07# Money!
0:05:07 > 0:05:10# Money, money, money, money
0:05:10 > 0:05:11# Money! #
0:05:19 > 0:05:20So, Clyde, when I'm...
0:05:20 > 0:05:24when I'm not getting roasted by Mr Trump in the boardroom,
0:05:24 > 0:05:27this is my reality, mate...the kitchen.
0:05:27 > 0:05:28So, I'm here at the New York City Rescue Mission,
0:05:28 > 0:05:31which is one of the agencies that Feeding America supports.
0:05:31 > 0:05:34Feeding America's my charity, because food's my world,
0:05:34 > 0:05:36and I want to make it happen for people that don't have enough to eat.
0:05:36 > 0:05:37So, do you cook, Clyde?
0:05:37 > 0:05:39- Not at all.- No? Never?
0:05:39 > 0:05:40Never.
0:05:40 > 0:05:42Today I've got a special guest in the kitchen.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44It's not every day that I can say I've got Clyde Drexler
0:05:44 > 0:05:46standing next to me as my sous chef.
0:05:46 > 0:05:47- Hey, guys.- How are you?
0:05:47 > 0:05:48Phil, this is Clyde.
0:05:48 > 0:05:50- Hey, Clyde. Nice to see you. - Good to see you, as well.
0:05:50 > 0:05:51- Hey, Curtis. Nice to see you. - Great to see you.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54I wasn't expecting company today.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56So, we've got a bit of a surprise for you, mate.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58- I love it.- Have a look at what's for lunch.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00All right.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Chicken and leek pie.
0:06:02 > 0:06:04And...
0:06:04 > 0:06:0720,000! Holy cow!
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- That's awesome!- How cool is that?
0:06:10 > 0:06:12I have a surprise for you both.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14From Right Guard Total Defence 5,
0:06:14 > 0:06:17we have a matching donation of 20,000.
0:06:17 > 0:06:18No way!
0:06:18 > 0:06:20Wow! Fantastic!
0:06:20 > 0:06:22'I work for an organisation, Feeding America,'
0:06:22 > 0:06:25that can take a dollar donation and make that seven meals.
0:06:25 > 0:06:30So, a 40,000 donation is 280,000 meals.
0:06:30 > 0:06:34To go back to Feeding America with that type of a donation
0:06:34 > 0:06:35is just amazing.
0:06:35 > 0:06:36I can't thank those guys enough.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38It's time to get cooking, Curtis. 280,000 meals.
0:06:38 > 0:06:41You got a lot of work to do - a lot of work to do.
0:06:41 > 0:06:43'Things have been pretty crazy on Celebrity Apprentice.
0:06:43 > 0:06:45'You know, it's been long hours and tough work,'
0:06:45 > 0:06:48but right now, there's 49 million Americans
0:06:48 > 0:06:49that are still affected by hunger.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52What can I get you, sir? A bit of everything.
0:06:52 > 0:06:54To come down here, that reminds me why I'm doing it.
0:06:54 > 0:06:55Feeding America's so important to me,
0:06:55 > 0:06:57and I'm so determined to win this.
0:06:57 > 0:07:00- There you go, my friend. - Thanks, man.- You're welcome.
0:07:16 > 0:07:18Come on, fellas.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35I was a bit surprised to see Trace Adkins walk in.
0:07:35 > 0:07:36He's a big guy.
0:07:36 > 0:07:38So, once I saw him, I knew it was about music.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40Sharon's still not here.
0:07:40 > 0:07:42She's very, very sick.
0:07:42 > 0:07:46It's up to you whether or not you decide to utilise her.
0:07:46 > 0:07:47I don't know what's happening with Sharon,
0:07:47 > 0:07:50but pretty soon we're going to have to make a decision.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52I have to say I think there's a little bit
0:07:52 > 0:07:54of preferential treatment going on with Sharon,
0:07:54 > 0:07:56and I really, really like her a lot,
0:07:56 > 0:07:59but she got to play by the rules like everybody else.
0:07:59 > 0:08:02We're standing in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame annexe -
0:08:02 > 0:08:04an amazing place.
0:08:04 > 0:08:08In fact, I expect to see Cyndi and Bret here someday.
0:08:08 > 0:08:11You'll get in. After The Apprentice, You're going to get in. You watch.
0:08:11 > 0:08:15You're going to be doing something that, to me,
0:08:15 > 0:08:16is very interesting,
0:08:16 > 0:08:19and I think I sort of did it a couple of years ago,
0:08:19 > 0:08:21and that had to do with Trace.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25He did really well on Celebrity Apprentice,
0:08:25 > 0:08:28and today he's the biggest country star there is.
0:08:28 > 0:08:32So, you're going to be taking two young country stars.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34Trace, explain.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37You're going to make over two young country artists,
0:08:37 > 0:08:40and you're going to prepare them for an interview
0:08:40 > 0:08:44with People Country magazine and to do a live performance.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47At that performance will be the journalists from People,
0:08:47 > 0:08:49a well-known country-music disc jockey,
0:08:49 > 0:08:51and Pete Fisher, general manager of the Grand Ole Opry,
0:08:51 > 0:08:53judging you on this task.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56You're going to be judged on the overall makeover,
0:08:56 > 0:08:58the press kit that you'll be creating to promote them,
0:08:58 > 0:09:00and whatever value you can add
0:09:00 > 0:09:02to the artist's potential breakout.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05Pick your Project Manager, please.
0:09:05 > 0:09:06Cyndi.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07I think I could do this.
0:09:07 > 0:09:08Going to be Cyndi?
0:09:08 > 0:09:10- No huddle needed.- Yeah.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12I would think, right? Cyndi.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14Well, I love working with other artists.
0:09:14 > 0:09:18It's what I do. I reinvent myself all the time.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20I think Bill has got a shot.
0:09:20 > 0:09:22He's got to go, man. He's got to go.
0:09:22 > 0:09:24I mean, I would love to do it, but it's your time to shine, man.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26OK, men?
0:09:26 > 0:09:28Goldberg?
0:09:28 > 0:09:29Bret, why wouldn't it be you?
0:09:29 > 0:09:32It's... It's his turn, and I'll back him. I'm his right hand.
0:09:32 > 0:09:33But don't you think you have an expertise
0:09:33 > 0:09:35that Goldberg wouldn't have?
0:09:35 > 0:09:37We work as a team, Rocksolid.
0:09:37 > 0:09:39- You don't think it matters?- No.
0:09:39 > 0:09:41If you hadn't been a Project Manager,
0:09:41 > 0:09:43then you kind of should step up.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46The last thing I'm going to do is put my tail between my legs
0:09:46 > 0:09:49and back up a little bit and let Bret jump in.
0:09:49 > 0:09:50The winning Project Manager
0:09:50 > 0:09:54gets 20,000 for his or her charity.
0:09:54 > 0:09:56The loser, you know what happens.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58Good luck.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05I believe that if a person is comfortable
0:10:05 > 0:10:07in the clothes that they wear,
0:10:07 > 0:10:10you go from there and you make it bigger.
0:10:10 > 0:10:14This week's task is transforming a country artist
0:10:14 > 0:10:17from unknown to well-known.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19I am an aspiring singer myself,
0:10:19 > 0:10:22and I'll be able to watch Cyndi Lauper,
0:10:22 > 0:10:24one of my idols, work on this person.
0:10:24 > 0:10:27You're the perfect Project Manager for this,
0:10:27 > 0:10:28but just be aware that both of...
0:10:28 > 0:10:31No. Both of you are singers. Absolutely.
0:10:31 > 0:10:32You think I don't know that?
0:10:32 > 0:10:34- Wait, wait, wait. Let her finish her thought.- All right.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37I'm just saying to think outside the box
0:10:37 > 0:10:40and use us in ways that you may not necessarily...
0:10:40 > 0:10:41I know we haven't known each other very long.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43Do you think that I stepped on you when I was...
0:10:43 > 0:10:45when I was the manager?
0:10:45 > 0:10:46I let everybody do what they wanted.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49Cyndi, I'm just... You're not even letting me finish my thought.
0:10:49 > 0:10:51- All right. Go ahead.- But it's OK.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53I like Holly.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56She gets...you know, like this.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58And I think when you have long, long hours,
0:10:58 > 0:11:00you start to edge up on each other.
0:11:00 > 0:11:02I want to do the best job for you,
0:11:02 > 0:11:04and all I'm doing is expressing to you
0:11:04 > 0:11:05how you might be able to get better...
0:11:05 > 0:11:07- OK.- ..performance out of us,
0:11:07 > 0:11:08and you're just, like, blocking me.
0:11:08 > 0:11:10I'm not understanding where that's coming from.
0:11:10 > 0:11:11All right. I'm not blocking you.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13'After what happened last boardroom,'
0:11:13 > 0:11:17this task was starting with a not-so-cohesive group.
0:11:17 > 0:11:18Let's put it that way.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32Cyndi's bedside manner needs help.
0:11:32 > 0:11:34She just blew off anything we had to say,
0:11:34 > 0:11:35and I mean anything.
0:11:35 > 0:11:39Namely, sweetheart, you want a beauty shot if it's a she.
0:11:39 > 0:11:42If it's a he, he should look sexy and cute.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45Lady Gaga... I don't think she's concerned about looking beautiful.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48Actually, Lady Gaga is very concerned about looking beautiful.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50I've worked with her.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52- So there.- No, but I have.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55It's all "So there" This morning. So, fine. Whatever. I know nothing.
0:11:55 > 0:11:57That's not right, sweetie,
0:11:57 > 0:11:59but sometimes you think you know something.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02The reaction that I got when I tried to say anything
0:12:02 > 0:12:04was, like, this... "Zip it."
0:12:04 > 0:12:08And for one of my childhood idols to be coming at me that way
0:12:08 > 0:12:11just totally changes my opinion about her.
0:12:12 > 0:12:13How you doing?
0:12:13 > 0:12:15- Hi, guys. Mike Dungan.- Curtis Stone.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17- Pleasure to meet you, man. - Mike, how are you doing, man? Bret.
0:12:17 > 0:12:19- Nice to see you.- How you doing, sir? Bill Goldberg.
0:12:19 > 0:12:22What are you looking for in their press Kit?
0:12:22 > 0:12:24I'm always looking for some point of differentiation.
0:12:24 > 0:12:28- OK.- Unless you can differentiate yourself at key points,
0:12:28 > 0:12:30then there's really no point.
0:12:30 > 0:12:32Absolutely, and that was the first thing I said to these guys.
0:12:32 > 0:12:34Don't start thinking of tractors and hay bales,
0:12:34 > 0:12:37because country is such a massive demographic,
0:12:37 > 0:12:39and for a band like Poison, we've...
0:12:39 > 0:12:41Every Rose crossed over to...
0:12:41 > 0:12:43I mean, it was one of our hits, both rock and country.
0:12:43 > 0:12:44Right.
0:12:44 > 0:12:46In the real world, on this task,
0:12:46 > 0:12:47I probably would have been Project Manager,
0:12:47 > 0:12:49but, honestly, we decided that
0:12:49 > 0:12:51Bill needs to have his chance to win for his charity,
0:12:51 > 0:12:52and we're going to fight to the end.
0:12:52 > 0:12:53Would you guys like to meet the artist?
0:12:53 > 0:12:55- Absolutely.- I'll be right back.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57It's cool to watch Bret do his thing.
0:12:57 > 0:12:59It makes me feel a little useless sometimes,
0:12:59 > 0:13:03because you have to defer to the experts.
0:13:03 > 0:13:04- What's up?- This is Luke Bryan.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06Of course. How you doing, Bret? Good to see you, man.
0:13:06 > 0:13:07Good to see you.
0:13:07 > 0:13:10How are you? It's very nice to meet you.
0:13:10 > 0:13:11Nice to meet you. Yeah, yeah.
0:13:11 > 0:13:15'It was my image that we would sit down with two really young kids'
0:13:15 > 0:13:17that were just trying to get into the music industry...
0:13:17 > 0:13:18- Let's get you some chairs. - 'But that wasn't the case.
0:13:18 > 0:13:22'These guys have already dealt with a certain level of fame.'
0:13:22 > 0:13:24So, that's always going to be tough,
0:13:24 > 0:13:26because you're not dealing with an 18-year-old kid
0:13:26 > 0:13:29who's like, "Give me an image. I'm up for it."
0:13:29 > 0:13:31So, what's your long-term goals, then, mate?
0:13:31 > 0:13:34"Mate." Does that mean a woman?
0:13:34 > 0:13:37Oh, you know, my long-term is to be able
0:13:37 > 0:13:39to do this a long time
0:13:39 > 0:13:41and then preserve the enjoyment of performing.
0:13:41 > 0:13:45They were real intense, real businesslike.
0:13:45 > 0:13:46They had a lot of questions that were great.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48What's your biggest strength, then, Emily?
0:13:48 > 0:13:50- My live shows.- Mm-hmm.
0:13:50 > 0:13:52Making the record and then doing a live show is so different.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55I would be fine working with the men.
0:13:55 > 0:13:58I think that it would be kind of funny going shopping with them
0:13:58 > 0:14:01or whatever they're planning on doing with my look and my hair,
0:14:01 > 0:14:03'but I'm going to really kind of shoot and pray'
0:14:03 > 0:14:05that I get on the girls' team.
0:14:05 > 0:14:08Five minutes until our person's available.
0:14:08 > 0:14:11It's OK for us to ask them questions, right, Cyndi?
0:14:11 > 0:14:13Yeah, just don't step over me.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16- Let me introduce myself and introduce you.- No.
0:14:16 > 0:14:18Just allow us to ask the questions we want to ask.
0:14:18 > 0:14:22You don't step on us, either, cos you can do that, too.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24Right. I'm not stepping on you, Holly.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26- I'm just saying... - You said don't step on us.
0:14:26 > 0:14:28- OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. No, no, no, no.- I'm just saying.
0:14:28 > 0:14:30Let me just talk to the guy, though.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31We all looked at each other like,
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- "Oh,- BLEEP- she is really trying to tell us
0:14:34 > 0:14:36"we're not allowed to ask any questions in this task."
0:14:38 > 0:14:39Hi!
0:14:39 > 0:14:41- Hello, ladies.- Have a seat here.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44Yeah, let me clear up some stuff, cos I really want to...
0:14:44 > 0:14:48I have some questions for you about these kids.
0:14:48 > 0:14:50I have music.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53That's wonderful. Can I... Let me listen.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56Did Emily West write these songs, or is this...
0:14:56 > 0:15:00Emily West wrote two of the three of them.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04# So your conscience finally hit you
0:15:04 > 0:15:10# And you're feeling guilty
0:15:10 > 0:15:13# And you're wishing I was there... #
0:15:13 > 0:15:16Emily has a very big personality,
0:15:16 > 0:15:18and she's very funny, very creative,
0:15:18 > 0:15:22very bright, and hard to put into a box.
0:15:22 > 0:15:24Well, I don't think you should change people.
0:15:24 > 0:15:26I think that's what's wrong with music today.
0:15:26 > 0:15:28Well, I have no intention of changing her.
0:15:28 > 0:15:30I just don't know if I should focus on that.
0:15:30 > 0:15:32# Rain makes corn
0:15:32 > 0:15:35# Corn makes whisky
0:15:35 > 0:15:37# Whisky makes my baby
0:15:37 > 0:15:40# Feel a little frisky... #
0:15:40 > 0:15:44I signed Luke Bryan after seeing him live on stage.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46It was just the kind of personality where,
0:15:46 > 0:15:47the minute you see the guy walk in the room,
0:15:47 > 0:15:49you want to know who he is and what he does.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52That was clever, you know, about the rain.
0:15:52 > 0:15:53He's a Southern, rural guy.
0:15:53 > 0:15:54- Yeah, rural.- Mm-hmm.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56Well, would you guys... would you guys like to meet the artists?
0:15:56 > 0:15:57- Please.- Let me get them, OK?
0:15:57 > 0:15:59I'll be right back.
0:15:59 > 0:16:01Hello, there! How are you?
0:16:01 > 0:16:04Emily walked straight through that door, and...
0:16:04 > 0:16:05She was so excited to meet Cyndi Lauper.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07It was really, really cute...
0:16:07 > 0:16:09It's so nice to meet you.
0:16:09 > 0:16:11I've been listening to you all morning.
0:16:12 > 0:16:13Hey, I'm Luke.
0:16:13 > 0:16:15..which I think touched Cyndi,
0:16:15 > 0:16:18and they were both super personable
0:16:18 > 0:16:21and passionate about their craft.
0:16:21 > 0:16:22Who's your favourite country artist?
0:16:22 > 0:16:26I grew up just a huge Alan Jackson and George Strait...
0:16:26 > 0:16:28and I also liked Alabama.
0:16:28 > 0:16:31I heard Patsy Cline, and I grew up listening to Loretta Lynn
0:16:31 > 0:16:32and, you know, all kinds of music,
0:16:32 > 0:16:36but lyrics and real-life stories is what I write from.
0:16:36 > 0:16:38I think both of you are great.
0:16:38 > 0:16:41Um, I'd just like to have a little time with them now
0:16:41 > 0:16:46and just discuss who we think we can help the most.
0:16:46 > 0:16:48After we met with our two artists,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50we were going to decide which one we wanted
0:16:50 > 0:16:51and then negotiate with the guys
0:16:51 > 0:16:53to get the artist that we preferred.
0:16:53 > 0:16:56OK. I like them both.
0:16:56 > 0:17:00I think I can help the girl more than the guy.
0:17:00 > 0:17:04- Yeah.- My vision for him is hard because of his look.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07Well, he's kind of a clean slate. I mean, you can dress him up.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09You can't change the length of his hair.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12You can't change the shape of his head.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14I think they're both tremendous artists.
0:17:14 > 0:17:16They're great artists. I'm not talking about that.
0:17:16 > 0:17:18I'm talking about the visual.
0:17:18 > 0:17:21'He was a shape I didn't know if I could wrangle.'
0:17:21 > 0:17:25His haircut was very square-shaped and very short,
0:17:25 > 0:17:28so I didn't know what the heck you could do.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31'So, I thought, "Let the guys deal with him."'
0:17:31 > 0:17:35I like the girl because I was looking at her face,
0:17:35 > 0:17:37I was looking how she could be photographed,
0:17:37 > 0:17:41her songs are awesome, and I think I can help her.
0:17:41 > 0:17:43I don't know if you guys feel that way,
0:17:43 > 0:17:46but I feel very strongly I'd like to help her.
0:17:46 > 0:17:48Emily and Luke are tremendous people,
0:17:48 > 0:17:50but we knew, I think, from the moment
0:17:50 > 0:17:55that we were able to listen to Emily's voice and her music
0:17:55 > 0:17:58that she was probably the artist for us.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00I'm sorry. She was probably the artist for Cyndi.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02'We didn't really have a say.'
0:18:02 > 0:18:05You know what our next step is? It doesn't matter who we want.
0:18:05 > 0:18:07We got to negotiate it with the guys.
0:18:07 > 0:18:08We don't have her yet.
0:18:08 > 0:18:09Yeah.
0:18:13 > 0:18:15OK. So, here's the deal.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16In 10 minutes, the guys are going to come in.
0:18:16 > 0:18:17Yeah.
0:18:17 > 0:18:20We're all clear that we like...
0:18:20 > 0:18:22I like her. I think she's great.
0:18:22 > 0:18:24This is the way the guys might be approaching this.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26Bret might be going, "I can help both of them.
0:18:26 > 0:18:28"Who can Cyndi help the least?"
0:18:28 > 0:18:30Mm-hmm. Do you see what we're saying?
0:18:30 > 0:18:32So you need to be smart when you're negotiating.
0:18:32 > 0:18:34We got to negotiate like lawyers?
0:18:34 > 0:18:36- Mm-hmm.- BLEEP.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39Voice quality is just, mm!
0:18:39 > 0:18:41It's what she wrote about, too, that's awesome.
0:18:41 > 0:18:44Right. We didn't really get a chance to hear what he wrote.
0:18:44 > 0:18:46- No, I listened. - Well, we didn't, so...- OK.
0:18:46 > 0:18:49My point is, is that... Since we have 10 minutes,
0:18:49 > 0:18:52it would be good just to listen to the music.
0:18:52 > 0:18:54But wait, Cyn. So, when the guys come in...
0:18:54 > 0:18:57We'll listen to the music, and then when the guys come in, we...
0:18:57 > 0:18:58All right.
0:18:58 > 0:19:01You know, you do this, cos I'm just trying to help.
0:19:01 > 0:19:02You want to listen to the song, we should listen to the music.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04Cyndi, I was just getting a game plan.
0:19:04 > 0:19:07We're trying to get procedural stuff in this, OK?
0:19:07 > 0:19:09Well, don't you... OK.
0:19:09 > 0:19:10If they want the girl, too,
0:19:10 > 0:19:12we just have to start thinking about how we want to strategise.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15Well, I'm going to tell them, if you don't mind,
0:19:15 > 0:19:18that I think that Bret could help the guy much more.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21Do you want us to sit back and let you do it?
0:19:21 > 0:19:23We're not... I don't think we should say...
0:19:23 > 0:19:24I think we should let Cyndi do all the talking.
0:19:24 > 0:19:27When I just tried to do some procedural things, you were like...
0:19:27 > 0:19:29Can we... Wait. Come back.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32Can we end this now so we can move on?
0:19:32 > 0:19:34Cyndi, in the middle of someone giving an opinion,
0:19:34 > 0:19:37you react, like, before we have a chance to say anything.
0:19:37 > 0:19:41OK. And that was rude of me, and I'm sorry.
0:19:41 > 0:19:43- It's not so much rude... - Do you accept that?
0:19:43 > 0:19:44I don't want an apology.
0:19:44 > 0:19:45I want to change the way we're doing it.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48Well, that's what I'm trying to do.
0:19:49 > 0:19:51OK, guys, we got 20 minutes to make a decision
0:19:51 > 0:19:53on which artist we want.
0:19:53 > 0:19:54You should listen to this with me, Bill.
0:19:54 > 0:19:56This is what you want answered.
0:19:56 > 0:19:57- Anastasia.- 'Yes?'
0:19:57 > 0:19:59I'm coming in as a manager.
0:19:59 > 0:20:02I've got Emily West and Luke Bryan are my two choices.
0:20:05 > 0:20:06OK. So, here I go.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09Which way would you lean for me to work with somebody?
0:20:09 > 0:20:12In typical Bret style, he ended up speaking to, you know,
0:20:12 > 0:20:15some really big people in the music business,
0:20:15 > 0:20:17cos, of course, Bret knows them all.
0:20:17 > 0:20:18Steve, a couple questions about your artists.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21We have Luke today, and we have Emily.
0:20:28 > 0:20:30Got it. Emily...give me a little background on her.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32This is the CEO Of such and such,
0:20:32 > 0:20:34and this is the boss of blah, blah, blah.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36And, you know, he was getting great advice,
0:20:36 > 0:20:37but we ran out of time.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40Come on, Bret. We got to cut him off, man. I'm sorry.
0:20:40 > 0:20:41Walk.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43No, we've got to make a decision, Bret.
0:20:43 > 0:20:46'He's a good guy, I can tell you.'
0:20:46 > 0:20:49Thanks again, Steven. I'll call you a little bit later.
0:20:49 > 0:20:50- Have a safe flight. - 'Take care, guys.'
0:20:50 > 0:20:53OK. What did you get from that,
0:20:53 > 0:20:54in a one-sentence deal?
0:20:54 > 0:20:57I don't have one sentence. Here's my question.
0:20:57 > 0:20:58Luke or Emily?
0:20:58 > 0:21:00- What's that?- Luke or Emily?
0:21:00 > 0:21:01Don't know.
0:21:01 > 0:21:03You got to make a decision. Just give us an answer.
0:21:03 > 0:21:04I don't have a preference.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07Then, in the end, he was like, "Doesn't matter which one."
0:21:07 > 0:21:09Luke or Emily? I'm like, "I know it's Luke or Emily.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11"Which one?!"
0:21:13 > 0:21:14Knock, knock.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18So, who do you want?
0:21:18 > 0:21:19Would you guys like something to drink?
0:21:19 > 0:21:20- Nope.- No.
0:21:20 > 0:21:23Who do you want, ladies?
0:21:23 > 0:21:24You know, I don't like
0:21:24 > 0:21:26negotiating with people that I can't beat up.
0:21:26 > 0:21:28- You guys go first. - No, you go first.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32- Ladies first.- No, no. Let's hear what you have to say.
0:21:35 > 0:21:39Our goal within the negotiations is to let the boys talk first.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41Did that work? No.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43They're all staring at us like this.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45What did you guys think of the music?
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- We're not here to make friends. - Yeah. I mean, honestly, guys,
0:21:47 > 0:21:48we're not here to give you opinions.
0:21:48 > 0:21:50We're not going to give you any answers. You're the enemy.
0:21:50 > 0:21:52OK. I like the girl.
0:21:52 > 0:21:55- You want to take the girl? - He's more of a clean slate.
0:21:55 > 0:21:57Here's the thing. Both are super talented.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59Whether you took the guy or the girl,
0:21:59 > 0:22:02whatever we got, we're going to win with.
0:22:02 > 0:22:05They're women, for God's sakes. Let them have what they want.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08- We'll take the guy. - Don't put any guyliner on him, Bret.
0:22:08 > 0:22:09Don't worry.
0:22:09 > 0:22:13Hey, that guyliner will bring him superpowers beyond belief.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15- Just know that. - I haven't seen any yet.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17Oh! Maria!
0:22:20 > 0:22:23Maria, the best interviews are when you direct the interview.
0:22:23 > 0:22:25Do bullet points... Yeah, me too.
0:22:25 > 0:22:27That's how I became famous.
0:22:27 > 0:22:32It's interesting answers, quick, funny answers,
0:22:32 > 0:22:33like if they say, "What's your favourite colour?"
0:22:33 > 0:22:36When I did Playboy, you know what they used to ask me?
0:22:36 > 0:22:37That's a different kind of... Yeah, but go ahead.
0:22:37 > 0:22:41I used to get asked, "Are you shaved, or are you hairy?"
0:22:42 > 0:22:46I mean, it's just, I've done so many interviews.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48Like, I don't like to be told,
0:22:48 > 0:22:50"You think you know blah, blah, blah."
0:22:50 > 0:22:52It makes me... It hurts my feelings.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55- It really hurts.- Oh, you're talking about something else.
0:22:55 > 0:22:56You hurt my feelings so much in the car,
0:22:56 > 0:22:58because you're like, "You think you know."
0:22:58 > 0:23:01Do you have any idea what I've been through?
0:23:01 > 0:23:02- OK, honey. - You act like I know nothing.
0:23:02 > 0:23:05- No. You do know a lot. - And I hate that. I hate that.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- But you walk around like you know everything.- No, I don't.
0:23:08 > 0:23:09I watched you,
0:23:09 > 0:23:12and I listened to you when I was growing up,
0:23:12 > 0:23:14and you hurt my feelings in the car.
0:23:14 > 0:23:15"You think you know."
0:23:15 > 0:23:20Cyndi just has no clue whatsoever what anybody's done,
0:23:20 > 0:23:23'and, finally, at a certain point, I decided enough was enough.'
0:23:23 > 0:23:27You're right, and I'm sorry. Will you accept that?
0:23:27 > 0:23:28- Of course I will.- Really?
0:23:28 > 0:23:30Look at me. You, me. Will you?
0:23:30 > 0:23:31Of course I will.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35I'm taking it in, and I'm sorry, OK?
0:23:35 > 0:23:38- Mm-hmm.- OK.
0:23:38 > 0:23:39She needs that validation
0:23:39 > 0:23:42all the time, because she's just a kid.
0:23:42 > 0:23:44Like, were you there in the room
0:23:44 > 0:23:47when she talked about media training
0:23:47 > 0:23:51and she said, "Are you shaved or not?"
0:23:51 > 0:23:53And I was thinking to myself,
0:23:53 > 0:23:57"That's what we're going to tell Emily West?"
0:23:59 > 0:24:02- I'm so happy!- Come on over.
0:24:02 > 0:24:05What I wanted to do was something that had yin-yang.
0:24:05 > 0:24:07Like, you know how lace and leather looks,
0:24:07 > 0:24:11where it could be glamorous and a little roughneck
0:24:11 > 0:24:14- but just enough?- Totally.
0:24:14 > 0:24:16She and... Both of them took... We all took media training.
0:24:16 > 0:24:20Obviously, I failed, but she's really good.
0:24:20 > 0:24:21Yeah, you and me. I know.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23And they're really good at it.
0:24:23 > 0:24:27I told Holly to write up your bio, so you need to tell us stuff.
0:24:27 > 0:24:29Cyndi's creative juices were flowing,
0:24:29 > 0:24:32but her creative juices were just splattered all over the place.
0:24:32 > 0:24:34But you haven't done that yet, have you?
0:24:34 > 0:24:36- Done what?- Leather and lace.
0:24:36 > 0:24:38I've... No, I have not.
0:24:38 > 0:24:40I knew if Cyndi didn't let go of this controlling attitude,
0:24:40 > 0:24:43there was going to be a disaster at the end of the day.
0:24:43 > 0:24:44But I think if we're going to do that hairstyle,
0:24:44 > 0:24:46we should do really dark eyes like that
0:24:46 > 0:24:47but just kind of shade it out a little bit.
0:24:47 > 0:24:50Yeah, softer. Not so hard.
0:24:50 > 0:24:52Yeah. I love you.
0:24:52 > 0:24:55(AS CYNDI) "Yeah, softer. Not so hard."
0:24:55 > 0:24:57All right, all right. So...
0:25:03 > 0:25:05Listen, what we don't want to fix
0:25:05 > 0:25:08is what we love about you, which is the music's great
0:25:08 > 0:25:09and you're a humble, likable guy.
0:25:09 > 0:25:10Thanks. Thank you.
0:25:10 > 0:25:11So, we're being judged on three things.
0:25:11 > 0:25:13The first one is the promotional materials
0:25:13 > 0:25:16that we get together to represent our artist,
0:25:16 > 0:25:19the makeover, and, also, the overall possibility
0:25:19 > 0:25:22of breakout, you know, success of this artist.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24You're a good-looking guy, you're a humble guy,
0:25:24 > 0:25:26you're a confident guy, but what we want to do is -
0:25:26 > 0:25:30go with me on this - I want to bring out the rock star in you -
0:25:30 > 0:25:32go with me - but keep the humble,
0:25:32 > 0:25:35down-home country, married... I'm a father, too.
0:25:35 > 0:25:38But it's also not great for me to go down a path
0:25:38 > 0:25:41where I'm like... that I'm wigging out.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44I was in full-blown "Let's get it done" mode.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46So, we're going to do four different looks with you.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48'I want to elevate his presence a little bit,
0:25:48 > 0:25:52'and, definitely, we had to get him some new clothes to do that.'
0:25:53 > 0:25:57You know, with boots on, 6'3".
0:25:57 > 0:25:58We're a pretty similar size, right?
0:25:58 > 0:26:00Yeah.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02Step up for me.
0:26:02 > 0:26:03See, I'm a little... If you throw my boots on...
0:26:03 > 0:26:06- Same shoulders and stuff? - Absolutely.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09- So, I'll be able to try on clothes for you.- Yeah.
0:26:09 > 0:26:10Perfect thing about this whole challenge
0:26:10 > 0:26:14was Luke is nearly an identical size to me.
0:26:16 > 0:26:17This is nice.
0:26:23 > 0:26:25That's right. You know?
0:26:25 > 0:26:28Try this shirt on real quick. It's mine.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30Looks good, man.
0:26:30 > 0:26:32And the colour works on you. Am I wrong, guys?
0:26:32 > 0:26:34What colour are your eyes?
0:26:34 > 0:26:37Yes, America, I just asked that.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41I'm just putting this on. It's a simple chain.
0:26:44 > 0:26:47- What are you thinking?- You feel comfortable wearing a wife-beater
0:26:47 > 0:26:49and something like that and a nice watch,
0:26:49 > 0:26:50as opposed to, you know,
0:26:50 > 0:26:53sitting there with that shirt unbuttoned?
0:26:53 > 0:26:55I can't believe I'm asking another guy this.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57No. This is part of creating the image, man.
0:26:57 > 0:27:00Goldberg... He is, like, the man's man's macho man.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03It was a very different side of Goldberg, but I enjoyed it.
0:27:03 > 0:27:04It was very humorous.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07We've got two hours to be back here with all wardrobe.
0:27:07 > 0:27:08Let's go.
0:27:08 > 0:27:09Good luck out there, boys.
0:27:09 > 0:27:11It's my job to keep us all on time.
0:27:11 > 0:27:13So, Goldberg and I went shopping.
0:27:13 > 0:27:15We took our shopping consultant,
0:27:15 > 0:27:17and it was pretty funny for me, to be perfectly honest.
0:27:17 > 0:27:19I've got one of the toughest guys
0:27:19 > 0:27:20in the world sitting on my right.
0:27:20 > 0:27:23I've got one of the gayest guys in the world sitting behind me.
0:27:23 > 0:27:26For him, I would stay with, like, earth tones.
0:27:26 > 0:27:29It was just this strange dynamic.
0:27:30 > 0:27:32This could be an option.
0:27:32 > 0:27:33You know what I mean?
0:27:33 > 0:27:36- She hasn't been seen like that.- Yeah.
0:27:36 > 0:27:38Our wardrobe stylist came in, and then Cyndi went on the internet
0:27:38 > 0:27:41and sort of found this image of leather and lace,
0:27:41 > 0:27:43a sort of soft and hard look for her.
0:27:52 > 0:27:54I really think...
0:27:54 > 0:27:56With the make-up, I want to talk to the make-up artist.
0:27:56 > 0:27:57But you could put it... You've talked so...
0:27:57 > 0:27:59- Well, do we want to wait for the make-up artist to come?- No!
0:27:59 > 0:28:01Cyndi wanted to do the hair, make-up.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03Cyndi wanted to be with the clothes.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06Cyndi did not want to task out anything.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08To tangibly see the clothes,
0:28:08 > 0:28:09I just think, Cyn, you just need to...
0:28:09 > 0:28:11- That's up to you, though. - Do me a favour, though.
0:28:11 > 0:28:16Look up the '60s, like, movie stars with the darker eyes,
0:28:16 > 0:28:17but she can't have it, like... Listen.
0:28:17 > 0:28:19But that's softer.
0:28:19 > 0:28:22- Mm-hmm.- That's a look she's done.
0:28:22 > 0:28:24But, Boo, come here. She's done that look.
0:28:24 > 0:28:25What about Brigitte Bardot?
0:28:25 > 0:28:28She's never done Brigitte Bardot.
0:28:28 > 0:28:29OK.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34We'll do whatever you want. You're the Project Manager.
0:28:34 > 0:28:36When you do the curly look,
0:28:36 > 0:28:38you should do the Grace Kelly look.
0:28:38 > 0:28:41I'm not saying do Grace Kelly. I was just trying to get...
0:28:41 > 0:28:42- No, no, but that would match. - All right.
0:28:42 > 0:28:43I did cut you off. Go ahead.
0:28:43 > 0:28:45No, that's OK. I'm good.
0:28:45 > 0:28:46I think we need clothes.
0:28:46 > 0:28:47Would you do me a favour, though?
0:28:47 > 0:28:50- Would you look up Brigitte Bardot?- Yes.
0:28:50 > 0:28:51All right. OK.
0:28:51 > 0:28:54So, I left Maria to watch over the hair and make-up,
0:28:54 > 0:28:56and I left the picture.
0:28:56 > 0:28:57Ready? OK. Bye, you guys.
0:28:57 > 0:28:58Call me if you need - if you think of anything.
0:28:58 > 0:29:01- Bye!- All right.
0:29:01 > 0:29:04Look, none of us have the iconic status of Cyndi Lauper,
0:29:04 > 0:29:07but we have been around the block a little bit collectively,
0:29:07 > 0:29:10and I don't feel any respect for that from Cyndi.
0:29:10 > 0:29:12Cyndi doesn't think that you or I...
0:29:12 > 0:29:14I mean, we should just be called two tur...
0:29:14 > 0:29:16two turnips and we just fell off the truck.
0:29:18 > 0:29:20Let's move on to getting you ready for this interview, right?
0:29:20 > 0:29:23The one thing I would always start every interview out with
0:29:23 > 0:29:24is a positive.
0:29:24 > 0:29:26The guys were gone, so I wanted to prepare Luke
0:29:26 > 0:29:27for the interview with People magazine.
0:29:27 > 0:29:29People is such a great opportunity for him.
0:29:29 > 0:29:32Never use these words - "I'm tired."
0:29:32 > 0:29:35Never, ever say that to anybody, and I'll tell you why.
0:29:35 > 0:29:37If I was interviewing you and I'm like,
0:29:37 > 0:29:39I just got out of bed to come over here
0:29:39 > 0:29:41and interview you, and your opening response is,
0:29:41 > 0:29:43"Yeah, I'm pretty burnt out. It was a long flight..."
0:29:43 > 0:29:45You just say, "You know what? I'm doing great.
0:29:45 > 0:29:47"Thank you for taking YOUR time to do this with me."
0:29:47 > 0:29:49- Yeah, I've got it. - It's the truth. "Thank you."
0:29:49 > 0:29:51And I can't tell you how many times I've done that.
0:29:51 > 0:29:54'Bret and I talked a little bit about some media training,'
0:29:54 > 0:29:56and I think Bret gave me some great ideas,
0:29:56 > 0:29:58stuff that's worked for him through the years.
0:29:58 > 0:30:00Go to shake my hand. You say, "Bret, how you doing?"
0:30:00 > 0:30:02- Bret, how you doing? - I don't know. I'm tired.
0:30:02 > 0:30:04- Where do we go? - Yeah, there's nowhere.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06Now my heart... My heart was pounding to meet you.
0:30:06 > 0:30:09They're thinking, "You lucky son of a bitch, and you're tired?"
0:30:09 > 0:30:12- Now my interview's about me being drunk and no-one gives a- BLEEP.
0:30:12 > 0:30:14How's it going today, Bret?
0:30:14 > 0:30:17Today I can openly admit that I'm a little hung over/tired,
0:30:17 > 0:30:20cos last night after our big win, we celebrated, and it was awesome.
0:30:20 > 0:30:22All right. That was my two cents for the day.
0:30:22 > 0:30:25Hey, that's good, though, man. That's good.
0:30:25 > 0:30:28Think about what you can say, not what you can't,
0:30:28 > 0:30:30because you're thinking about the wrong things.
0:30:30 > 0:30:32- Well, it creates fear, and it just...- Right!
0:30:32 > 0:30:34And, you know, in the long run, I'm just going to be like this.
0:30:34 > 0:30:35Uh-huh.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37Cyndi went out to do the wardrobe,
0:30:37 > 0:30:39and we stayed back to do the media training
0:30:39 > 0:30:43and also to start the bio and hair and make-up.
0:30:43 > 0:30:45IF they're like, "Oh, what was your past?"
0:30:45 > 0:30:47That's far too broad.
0:30:47 > 0:30:49Say, "What would you like to know about it?"
0:30:49 > 0:30:50Ooh, let me write that down.
0:30:50 > 0:30:51That's a whole lot easier to answer.
0:30:51 > 0:30:53Can I have a piece of paper?
0:30:53 > 0:30:55- You know how to power-shop? - We're going to power-shop.
0:30:55 > 0:30:57Come on. I know how to power-shop. Come on.
0:30:57 > 0:31:01We left at 12:30 to go shopping, and we had to be back by 3:30.
0:31:01 > 0:31:04I was extremely worried that we weren't going to get it done.
0:31:04 > 0:31:07- So, we'll head right upstairs. - Yeah.
0:31:07 > 0:31:09Cyndi was going shopping,
0:31:09 > 0:31:11and she was heading into big stores.
0:31:11 > 0:31:12I was very worried...
0:31:12 > 0:31:13Let's go, go, go.
0:31:13 > 0:31:14..she was going to keep looking
0:31:14 > 0:31:16for that perfect, perfect something
0:31:16 > 0:31:18and that we weren't going to come home with anything.
0:31:18 > 0:31:19Are you focused with me?
0:31:19 > 0:31:21I just kept trying to make it happen,
0:31:21 > 0:31:23grabbing the clothes and just going to the register
0:31:23 > 0:31:26time after time... Ah!
0:31:26 > 0:31:28Time after time to pay for the clothes.
0:31:28 > 0:31:30- Thank you so much. - Thank you!
0:31:30 > 0:31:33And then I keep going back to her, "Cyndi, we've got to go.
0:31:33 > 0:31:34"We have got to go."
0:31:34 > 0:31:37- Thank you so much, sweetheart.- Bye!
0:31:37 > 0:31:38We'll make your press kit nice.
0:31:38 > 0:31:41There will be an 8x10. There will be your CD.
0:31:41 > 0:31:44There will be this bio with all your credentials.
0:31:44 > 0:31:47Luke and I stayed back, and we're getting into
0:31:47 > 0:31:48making this press kit and putting it together,
0:31:48 > 0:31:51and this is definitely one of the things we're being judged on.
0:31:51 > 0:31:53Here's what I got so far. I think you're going to like this.
0:31:53 > 0:31:56"The only music that was ever right for Luke Bryan
0:31:56 > 0:31:57"Was country music.
0:31:57 > 0:31:59He knew it from birth." You know what I mean?
0:31:59 > 0:32:01"Birth" May be... Nah.
0:32:01 > 0:32:03"Birth" Sounds a little... That sounds funky to me.
0:32:03 > 0:32:06OK. Um... I'll change "Birth."
0:32:06 > 0:32:07"He knew it from the first time
0:32:07 > 0:32:10he heard Mark Chesnutt's Brother Jukebox."
0:32:10 > 0:32:12Nah. Uh...
0:32:15 > 0:32:16Hold on.
0:32:16 > 0:32:18I don't want to make it sound like Chesnutt
0:32:18 > 0:32:19is the biggest influence I have.
0:32:19 > 0:32:21No, no. I understand what you mean.
0:32:21 > 0:32:23Don't fear me giving you an identity more.
0:32:23 > 0:32:25That's kind of what I think you're looking for.
0:32:25 > 0:32:27Well, yeah. Let's...
0:32:27 > 0:32:28Let me try this.
0:32:28 > 0:32:29"In the words of his fans from the Nut House..."
0:32:29 > 0:32:30Can I say that?
0:32:30 > 0:32:33I wouldn't use... Well, read that back.
0:32:33 > 0:32:35There's something a little off in that.
0:32:35 > 0:32:36OK. You got it.
0:32:36 > 0:32:39What I like about Luke is he knows exactly what he wants,
0:32:39 > 0:32:42and what I don't like about Luke is he knows exactly what he wants.
0:32:42 > 0:32:44So, I know that this is going to be...
0:32:44 > 0:32:46Without a doubt, this is going to be tough.
0:32:46 > 0:32:50I put, "He is much more pipe than hype."
0:32:50 > 0:32:52The "Pipes" Thing is a little...
0:32:52 > 0:32:53Keep going without saying that,
0:32:53 > 0:32:55and let's see how that does.
0:32:55 > 0:32:56OK.
0:33:02 > 0:33:04I think she should wear
0:33:04 > 0:33:06the light leather jacket with no sleeves.
0:33:06 > 0:33:09After all of our shopping, we went back to our photo studio
0:33:09 > 0:33:12cos Cyndi wanted to be part of the make-up process.
0:33:12 > 0:33:14They're going to do her all up for this interview.
0:33:14 > 0:33:16Oh, God. She's going to look like Frankenstein.
0:33:16 > 0:33:18Maybe not.
0:33:18 > 0:33:20No, they said they're doing mellow make-up,
0:33:20 > 0:33:24- like what you said. - Yeah?- That's what they said.
0:33:24 > 0:33:26- Hi. - Hi, Sharon!
0:33:28 > 0:33:30Sharon's been sick, and she missed my entire task.
0:33:30 > 0:33:33That's Emily West. Sharon Osbourne.
0:33:33 > 0:33:34Nice to meet you.
0:33:34 > 0:33:35- Hi.- Hug.
0:33:35 > 0:33:37I'm so sorry you're so sick.
0:33:37 > 0:33:39Hello, there! Are you all right?
0:33:39 > 0:33:41- I'm good.- Oh.
0:33:41 > 0:33:45- We were given two artists to try to make over...- Uh-huh.
0:33:45 > 0:33:47And do press kits on and do some media training.
0:33:47 > 0:33:51It's just my luck that I wasn't here
0:33:51 > 0:33:53and that I couldn't say, "All right, this one's mine.
0:33:53 > 0:33:55"I'll take this."
0:33:55 > 0:33:57Well, Cyndi went nuts for her.
0:33:57 > 0:34:00She just heard her voice and heard her music.
0:34:00 > 0:34:01- You don't know all this stuff, huh?- She did?
0:34:01 > 0:34:03I mean, to come up with a bio
0:34:03 > 0:34:07and to come up with an imagery for an artist,
0:34:07 > 0:34:08I can do it in my sleep.
0:34:10 > 0:34:12Sharon's back.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14And then in came Hurricane Cyndi,
0:34:14 > 0:34:17and she started trying to re-micromanage everything.
0:34:17 > 0:34:20Did you follow the map, or you just decided to do it?
0:34:20 > 0:34:24No, I followed the map of just more of the line around the eye.
0:34:24 > 0:34:27The make-up, honestly - they gave her the apple cheeks.
0:34:27 > 0:34:28I was horrified.
0:34:28 > 0:34:30And is this the Brigitte Bardot look?
0:34:30 > 0:34:32That was the picture with the lining,
0:34:32 > 0:34:33cos with the Brigitte Bardot,
0:34:33 > 0:34:36it has more of that lining around the eyes.
0:34:36 > 0:34:37And it went up.
0:34:37 > 0:34:39Maria watched over the hair and make-up.
0:34:39 > 0:34:42You know, it would be different if I didn't leave a picture,
0:34:42 > 0:34:43but I wanted them to follow the picture,
0:34:44 > 0:34:46and we all agreed, "OK, like this picture,"
0:34:46 > 0:34:47but it wasn't like the picture.
0:34:47 > 0:34:51You always wear your rouge this close, right?
0:34:51 > 0:34:52Well, when she smiles, that's where it...
0:34:52 > 0:34:55- I understand, but I don't want it like that.- OK. OK.
0:34:55 > 0:34:57I want it a little flatter here.
0:34:57 > 0:34:59Cyndi hated the make-up. I thought it was fine.
0:34:59 > 0:35:01A little bit of Photoshop, we'll be good to go.
0:35:01 > 0:35:04Just open this up a little bit. Wipe it down.
0:35:04 > 0:35:06I'm... I'm kind of doing that with the powder instead of...
0:35:06 > 0:35:08Because, remember, I airbrushed her, so, then, I don't want this...
0:35:08 > 0:35:10- You airbrushed her?- Yeah.
0:35:10 > 0:35:12Did you really?
0:35:12 > 0:35:14You spray-painted this kid?!
0:35:14 > 0:35:17She's 20-something! You don't spray-paint them.
0:35:17 > 0:35:20You spray the old buzzards, not the kids.
0:35:20 > 0:35:23She looks pretty heavily made-up.
0:35:23 > 0:35:25You can't see her skin any more.
0:35:25 > 0:35:29I made her wipe down the cheeks, and I thought, "Ay-yi-yi!"
0:35:29 > 0:35:30We're going to wait to try everything on,
0:35:30 > 0:35:32but we want to get her in her first thing.
0:35:32 > 0:35:33Yeah, get her in her first thing.
0:35:33 > 0:35:37Cyndi thinks she's right and everybody else is stupid.
0:35:37 > 0:35:40Hey, Sharon, can I speak to you a minute, please?
0:35:40 > 0:35:42But she listens to Sharon.
0:35:42 > 0:35:44I don't like the coat with that blouse.
0:35:44 > 0:35:45I think it's wrong.
0:35:45 > 0:35:48And I think it's heavy to wear
0:35:48 > 0:35:50- when you're sitting and talking to somebody.- Mm-hmm.
0:35:50 > 0:35:52This is how Cyndi and I make our living.
0:35:52 > 0:35:55This is what we do professionally,
0:35:55 > 0:35:58and we've both done extremely well out of it.
0:35:58 > 0:36:01So, yes, she's going to ask me for my opinion
0:36:01 > 0:36:04over all the girls.
0:36:04 > 0:36:05It's just the way it is.
0:36:05 > 0:36:08It's not about you, you. It's about the task.
0:36:08 > 0:36:10- You've got to feel comfortable. - She liked the grey.
0:36:10 > 0:36:12It was Maria who didn't like the grey.
0:36:18 > 0:36:20- What's up, Bret? - How you doing, man?
0:36:20 > 0:36:22- I'm good, man. How are you? - Great to see you.- You too.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25- I'm building up Luke's bio right now.- Yeah?
0:36:25 > 0:36:26You know what? Here. You want to have a seat for a minute?
0:36:26 > 0:36:29Yeah, sit down. We're just setting up for the photo shoot.
0:36:29 > 0:36:30The guys are out collecting everything.
0:36:30 > 0:36:34When you were given the task this morning
0:36:34 > 0:36:36and they said, "Makeover,"
0:36:36 > 0:36:39what did you think that... What did you think they meant by that?
0:36:39 > 0:36:40Well, you know, here's my thing.
0:36:40 > 0:36:44He has a definite line as to where his comfort zone is,
0:36:44 > 0:36:46so what I said is, "I'm going to do a couple things.
0:36:46 > 0:36:48"Show me where the end of your comfort zone is,
0:36:48 > 0:36:50"And then I'm going to kick you in the butt
0:36:50 > 0:36:52"right underneath there just about this much more."
0:36:52 > 0:36:54"And take you across just a little more."
0:36:54 > 0:36:55"I'm going to shove you across this much more."
0:36:55 > 0:36:57Come on in. We can talk about this.
0:36:57 > 0:36:59Didn't know this guy was going to be here.
0:36:59 > 0:37:00Oh, this guy's great. Exactly.
0:37:00 > 0:37:02So, how are you feeling about all this, Luke?
0:37:02 > 0:37:04- I'm good. - You're comfortable with it?
0:37:04 > 0:37:06Obviously, coming in, it's a little scary. You know the deal.
0:37:06 > 0:37:09When they tell you that some guys that you've never met
0:37:09 > 0:37:11are going to try to market you in a new way,
0:37:11 > 0:37:13you're like, "Oh, gosh, there's no telling."
0:37:13 > 0:37:16But it's been great, man. We're trying to figure some things out.
0:37:16 > 0:37:19I'm a little curious as to which direction they're going to go in.
0:37:19 > 0:37:21I couldn't really tell, cos they didn't have
0:37:21 > 0:37:23any of the wardrobe or anything there yet,
0:37:23 > 0:37:26but Bret seemed to be comfortable and confident
0:37:26 > 0:37:27in what he was doing.
0:37:27 > 0:37:28Somebody told me
0:37:28 > 0:37:31that one of your little girls has some health issues.
0:37:31 > 0:37:32- Yeah, yeah.- Yeah?
0:37:32 > 0:37:33I have two daughters, Raine and Jorja,
0:37:33 > 0:37:35and being a type I diabetic,
0:37:35 > 0:37:38the chances of my kids getting it are about 50%.
0:37:38 > 0:37:41And the minute that Kristi called me, their mom,
0:37:41 > 0:37:45and said that she was sick, man, my heart... Man, oh, man.
0:37:45 > 0:37:47So we're waiting for the blood results today.
0:37:47 > 0:37:49You know, I've said so many prayers.
0:37:49 > 0:37:51I don't even know what to say any more. I'm just like...
0:37:51 > 0:37:54But what made me lose it, she was scared, and she's like,
0:37:54 > 0:37:56"Dad, do I have to take a bunch of shots like you?"
0:37:56 > 0:37:57And I was like... You know,
0:37:57 > 0:37:59I don't know if you've ever had that happen,
0:37:59 > 0:38:00where that lump... You know what I mean?
0:38:00 > 0:38:02I was like...
0:38:02 > 0:38:05Yeah, yeah. I've had that lump in my throat several times.
0:38:05 > 0:38:07Trace and myself have kids,
0:38:07 > 0:38:10and I think it was great to be able to relate on that level
0:38:10 > 0:38:12of why we're here doing this.
0:38:12 > 0:38:14- Thank you.- I empathise with you.
0:38:14 > 0:38:15And, man, I really hope everything works out good.
0:38:15 > 0:38:17Right back at you. You too, man.
0:38:17 > 0:38:19Thank you for saying that. That means the world to me, for real.
0:38:19 > 0:38:21- Good luck, man.- Thanks.
0:38:21 > 0:38:23- Good luck in your task, too. - Thank you.
0:38:23 > 0:38:25I like this in there.
0:38:25 > 0:38:27Yeah, she's going to, but I kind of...
0:38:33 > 0:38:35- You're so big!- Hello.
0:38:35 > 0:38:37Could you take Goldberg if you wanted to? Summer.
0:38:37 > 0:38:40I don't want to have to find out.
0:38:40 > 0:38:41Hello, Emily.
0:38:41 > 0:38:42Hi, Trace. How are you?
0:38:42 > 0:38:43I'm fine. How are you?
0:38:43 > 0:38:46- It's so good to see you. - You too, darling.
0:38:46 > 0:38:49Look at you. You smell like coffee and leather, just like a man.
0:38:49 > 0:38:51Oh! I love this girl.
0:38:51 > 0:38:53It was a beehive in the women's room.
0:38:53 > 0:38:57They all seemed to be very focused on what they were doing.
0:38:57 > 0:38:59Is this the side you part on, besides the middle?
0:38:59 > 0:39:02I like the way it's going now. It's cool.
0:39:02 > 0:39:05What do you think of our makeover so far?
0:39:05 > 0:39:07Well, you guys are awfully busy.
0:39:07 > 0:39:09Huge contrast from the other room.
0:39:09 > 0:39:13Girls in here are all playing well together, or...
0:39:13 > 0:39:14Trying to.
0:39:14 > 0:39:17I sensed a little dissension there.
0:39:17 > 0:39:19A couple of the ladies, you know,
0:39:19 > 0:39:21were just kind of just looking, you know.
0:39:21 > 0:39:22Ah, I don't... You know.
0:39:22 > 0:39:23They didn't say anything.
0:39:23 > 0:39:27I just kind of sensed that maybe not everybody was on board,
0:39:27 > 0:39:29which I think is a mistake.
0:39:29 > 0:39:31Should we pin it a little bit?
0:39:31 > 0:39:33Cyndi Lauper influenced fashion
0:39:33 > 0:39:37on a scale that most people can't even imagine.
0:39:37 > 0:39:39I mean, there were a whole generation of young girls
0:39:39 > 0:39:41trying to dress like Cyndi Lauper.
0:39:41 > 0:39:43If it was me, I'd give her free rein,
0:39:43 > 0:39:46let her do whatever she wanted to.
0:39:46 > 0:39:48And I know you have the patience
0:39:48 > 0:39:50to be very good at this game
0:39:50 > 0:39:54because of the man you have to work with all the time.
0:39:54 > 0:39:57I'm not talking about Ozzy. I'm talking about Piers Morgan.
0:39:57 > 0:40:00Oh, please! Piers!
0:40:00 > 0:40:01God!
0:40:04 > 0:40:07I don't have the proper vision for something like this,
0:40:07 > 0:40:10because all it would do is convolute what...
0:40:10 > 0:40:13what's going on with...with Bret.
0:40:13 > 0:40:15This is right up Bret Michaels' alley.
0:40:15 > 0:40:16I mean, I... What am I going to do?
0:40:16 > 0:40:19Tell Bret Michaels how to put a promo pack together?
0:40:19 > 0:40:20Am I going to tell Bret Michaels
0:40:20 > 0:40:23how to do a photo shoot for a musician?
0:40:23 > 0:40:24Let's do it.
0:40:26 > 0:40:28We had a photo shoot coming up,
0:40:28 > 0:40:29so we literally had to go out,
0:40:29 > 0:40:31get some clothes, get whatever we needed
0:40:31 > 0:40:34to sort of make that photo shoot come to life.
0:40:36 > 0:40:40Thank God that Luke was very similar in build to Curtis,
0:40:40 > 0:40:42because I think we saved a lot of time
0:40:42 > 0:40:43by going back to the hotel
0:40:43 > 0:40:45and just grabbing a lot of stuff that Curtis had.
0:40:45 > 0:40:47Nice work, brother.
0:40:47 > 0:40:48Oh, God.
0:40:48 > 0:40:51- Let's go.- Go!
0:40:51 > 0:40:54We would really appreciate it if you could hustle.
0:40:56 > 0:40:58What I'm looking for for him
0:40:58 > 0:41:00is I need to bring out the rock star in him.
0:41:00 > 0:41:03I need to make him more identifiable.
0:41:03 > 0:41:06- What I don't want to get is hokey old-school.- Absolutely.
0:41:06 > 0:41:08'The photo shoot is starting in ten minutes,'
0:41:08 > 0:41:10and we've got to get this done. The guys aren't back yet,
0:41:10 > 0:41:12and I'm really starting to get nervous.
0:41:12 > 0:41:15Is there another way we can go?
0:41:15 > 0:41:18There's no other way to get out of here?
0:41:18 > 0:41:20cos this is a parking lot.
0:41:20 > 0:41:22- Tell me what you're here doing. - Make-up and hair.
0:41:22 > 0:41:23That's all I needed to know.
0:41:23 > 0:41:26That's perfect. And I apologise. We'll be just a minute.
0:41:26 > 0:41:28I've had so many things going so many different directions.
0:41:28 > 0:41:30Can I help you bring stuff up, anybody?
0:41:30 > 0:41:33I probably would have liked to have kept Bill with me
0:41:33 > 0:41:37just to get...you know, stay calm and focus on a couple other things
0:41:37 > 0:41:39that we needed to get done, but there is no doubt
0:41:39 > 0:41:43I bit off probably a lot more than I could chew.
0:41:43 > 0:41:46The photo shoot started at 4.00 till 5.00, OK?
0:41:46 > 0:41:49We're going to be there at 4.15.
0:41:49 > 0:41:53We're going to have 45 minutes to nail the shots.
0:41:53 > 0:41:56I'm going to call my guys and see how close they are.
0:41:59 > 0:42:01- 'Hello?'- Hey, Bret.
0:42:01 > 0:42:04- Hey. Who's this?- Goldberg.- Hey, Goldberg. Where you guys at?
0:42:04 > 0:42:06We're close, ten minutes away.
0:42:06 > 0:42:08As soon as you get here, I could use you, man.
0:42:08 > 0:42:09'We finished the bio.
0:42:09 > 0:42:11'Now I need you to help me put it all together.'
0:42:11 > 0:42:13You got it, buddy. You got it, man.
0:42:13 > 0:42:14We're hauling ass, dude.
0:42:14 > 0:42:17We've just...we've had a couple traffic snafus.
0:42:17 > 0:42:20OK, here we go. You ready?
0:42:20 > 0:42:22So, I mean, there's no other way to get out of here?
0:42:22 > 0:42:23This is painful.
0:42:23 > 0:42:26We're going to have 20 minutes, realistically, to shoot this guy.
0:42:26 > 0:42:28The funny thing about Bill Goldberg is,
0:42:28 > 0:42:31if he ever gets angry, he just snarls.
0:42:31 > 0:42:33SNARLING
0:42:33 > 0:42:36I don't want to see him explode, and I think he's close.
0:42:36 > 0:42:38God, you're kidding me.
0:42:38 > 0:42:40Stressful, isn't it?
0:42:49 > 0:42:51And what I want to do is really blow him out.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54I want it to look great and, you, just confident.
0:42:54 > 0:42:57- Here we go.- All right, just give me your chin down a bit.
0:42:57 > 0:42:58The photo shoot is upon us,
0:42:58 > 0:43:01and the guys aren't back, and we've got no clothes.
0:43:01 > 0:43:03Inside, I was getting concerned
0:43:03 > 0:43:05that Luke was going to be wearing one shirt.
0:43:07 > 0:43:09Down here, Curtis.
0:43:09 > 0:43:11Little smile.
0:43:12 > 0:43:13Terrific.
0:43:13 > 0:43:15OK. Let's take a look at these.
0:43:15 > 0:43:19Let's do a few more like this. See, that looks killer, man.
0:43:21 > 0:43:23- There's my shoppers.- Yeah.
0:43:23 > 0:43:26And just go with me. Get that one on.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29By the time we arrived back with all the clothes,
0:43:29 > 0:43:31we just quickly got him changed and went for it.
0:43:31 > 0:43:33It's different for me, I'll tell you that.
0:43:33 > 0:43:36- But I got to go with you.- Trust me.
0:43:36 > 0:43:38OK. Let's get that outfit out of there.
0:43:38 > 0:43:40Now I'll give you this and then the leather jacket.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43Just see what that looks like. Do we have a necklace?
0:43:43 > 0:43:45Put that on. Just try.
0:43:45 > 0:43:47That looks manly on you. That looks good.
0:43:47 > 0:43:49'You know, Luke definitely got outside of his comfort zone,'
0:43:49 > 0:43:51but he rolled with it.
0:43:53 > 0:43:54We got 20 minutes left with the photographer.
0:43:54 > 0:43:56We want to get as many good shots as we can.
0:43:56 > 0:43:57Set your chin on it,
0:43:57 > 0:44:00and you got to aim this right down the pipe.
0:44:00 > 0:44:02- That's what I'm talking about. - That's good.
0:44:02 > 0:44:03Yeah, you know what I mean?
0:44:03 > 0:44:05It has a little Elvis vibe going on, too.
0:44:05 > 0:44:07Maybe a little softer in the face. There you go. Right.
0:44:07 > 0:44:10Let's slick his hair back. I mean, I'm talking quickly.
0:44:10 > 0:44:11Great.
0:44:11 > 0:44:13We're running so out of time.
0:44:13 > 0:44:15Great.
0:44:15 > 0:44:17Smile. Give him a big smile.
0:44:17 > 0:44:19Smile, man!
0:44:19 > 0:44:21Them teeth are going to sell records for you.
0:44:21 > 0:44:23See? Smile!
0:44:23 > 0:44:26Come on, man. You got them pretty white teeth.
0:44:26 > 0:44:28Goldberg, the entire time we were doing this,
0:44:28 > 0:44:31kept yelling, "Smile! Smile!"
0:44:31 > 0:44:33Smile, big man! Come on!
0:44:33 > 0:44:35I think Luke was so scared of him that he just, like...
0:44:35 > 0:44:37He was doing this really cheesy smile,
0:44:37 > 0:44:39cos I think he thought Goldberg was going to beat him up.
0:44:39 > 0:44:42- Big smile, man. There you go. - He's a sucker for the smiles.
0:44:42 > 0:44:44No, man. That sells, bro.
0:44:44 > 0:44:46It sells. You've got big-ass teeth.
0:44:46 > 0:44:48That's it. We're done. Let's take a look at these.
0:44:48 > 0:44:50I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night
0:44:50 > 0:44:52going, "Smile, damn it!"
0:44:53 > 0:44:56OK. Just don't bunch up those roses.
0:44:56 > 0:44:58- Just separate them.- OK.
0:44:58 > 0:45:00Part of the criteria of winning this baby
0:45:00 > 0:45:01is the press kit,
0:45:01 > 0:45:04so the press kit needed to be smoking.
0:45:04 > 0:45:06The one that's coming out of her head, we have to change.
0:45:06 > 0:45:08Oh, but pull it up a little.
0:45:08 > 0:45:10What do you guys think?
0:45:10 > 0:45:12It's nice when she smiles, but you know what?
0:45:12 > 0:45:16Can she give you a tiny bit more profile?
0:45:20 > 0:45:22That's great!
0:45:22 > 0:45:27It sounds so simple, but actually putting her in black
0:45:27 > 0:45:31gave her somewhat of an attitude that she didn't have before.
0:45:33 > 0:45:35Pretty. Open your eyes.
0:45:35 > 0:45:38Big eyes, big eyes! Open, open wide!
0:45:39 > 0:45:43I tried to stand along the sidelines, but it was hard to watch.
0:45:43 > 0:45:45Straight hips.
0:45:45 > 0:45:48I started modelling when I was 14 years old.
0:45:48 > 0:45:50I taught my sister how to do photo shoots.
0:45:50 > 0:45:51I've helped out some of the girls
0:45:51 > 0:45:53within World Wrestling Entertainment.
0:45:53 > 0:45:55I also know how to use a camera.
0:45:55 > 0:45:59So, doesn't that make me a candidate to be able to help?
0:46:00 > 0:46:04Can you do a couple where you look off, OK?
0:46:04 > 0:46:06You don't have enough hair on the side.
0:46:09 > 0:46:13You know, I was trying to direct, and then Maria steps in there.
0:46:13 > 0:46:15You know, she should have talked to me and asked me.
0:46:15 > 0:46:17A minute and a half. Please step out.
0:46:17 > 0:46:19Please step out. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead.
0:46:19 > 0:46:21No, you're in. You go. Connect, connect.
0:46:21 > 0:46:22Let me know when we have 30 seconds, will you?
0:46:22 > 0:46:23- OK.- Great.
0:46:23 > 0:46:26It's hard to get cut off all the time.
0:46:26 > 0:46:28Yeah, some close-ups.
0:46:28 > 0:46:32In my own thing, I don't put up with that.
0:46:32 > 0:46:33Everybody has their job.
0:46:33 > 0:46:36Sometimes church and state cross over,
0:46:36 > 0:46:38and sometimes they don't.
0:46:38 > 0:46:41You're beautiful. You're beautiful. You're strong. You're every woman.
0:46:42 > 0:46:45Maria tried to step in, and Cyndi got annoyed.
0:46:45 > 0:46:47I do think Maria has some great ideas,
0:46:47 > 0:46:48but Maria also has to recognise,
0:46:48 > 0:46:51right or wrong, Cyndi is Project Manager,
0:46:51 > 0:46:54so the boss is saying, "I want this to be my deal,"
0:46:54 > 0:46:56then let it be her deal.
0:46:56 > 0:46:57You can't take it personally.
0:46:57 > 0:46:58Straight underneath.
0:47:00 > 0:47:01That's beautiful.
0:47:01 > 0:47:03- OK, it's a wrap.- All righty.
0:47:03 > 0:47:04Thank you!
0:47:04 > 0:47:07Cyndi has a vision, but Cyndi has
0:47:07 > 0:47:11this very disorganised way of doing things,
0:47:11 > 0:47:13but she gets there in the end. She really, really does.
0:47:13 > 0:47:16And in her own way, I think she's pulled it off. I do.
0:47:16 > 0:47:19Oh, my gosh! I love that!
0:47:19 > 0:47:20There are some really lovely ones.
0:47:20 > 0:47:22- That's cute!- And you know what?
0:47:22 > 0:47:25That looks nothing like what you've done before.
0:47:25 > 0:47:27It totally doesn't.
0:47:32 > 0:47:34If the ruffles were in a different place,
0:47:34 > 0:47:35it would look really nice.
0:47:35 > 0:47:38There's one that I know she'll like, but I don't know...
0:47:38 > 0:47:39- Hi!- Hello!
0:47:39 > 0:47:40- Hi!- How are you?
0:47:40 > 0:47:43Good. I'm Cindy Sanz. Nice to meet you.
0:47:43 > 0:47:45Emily had to be dressed
0:47:45 > 0:47:47and ready for a People magazine interview.
0:47:47 > 0:47:49Maria had already media-trained her.
0:47:49 > 0:47:51So, Emily's over here. OK?
0:47:51 > 0:47:54Yes. We're just going to step out and give you guys a moment.
0:47:54 > 0:47:56Do you want to just introduce them?
0:47:56 > 0:47:57Yes, of course.
0:47:57 > 0:47:59- Hi. I'm Cindy Sanz from People Country.- Hey!
0:47:59 > 0:48:01Nice to meet you.
0:48:01 > 0:48:02Nice to meet you! Good to see you.
0:48:02 > 0:48:03- You look great. - Thank you. So do you.
0:48:03 > 0:48:05Do you guys want to sit here?
0:48:05 > 0:48:08- Sure.- We consciously said, "Let's leave that space
0:48:08 > 0:48:10"So that Emily doesn't feel nervous with us, like,
0:48:10 > 0:48:13"you know, right over her, like, you know, nervous moms."
0:48:13 > 0:48:14"I hope she says the right thing."
0:48:14 > 0:48:16Now, certainly, there's a lot
0:48:16 > 0:48:18of, like, terrific women in Nashville these days...
0:48:18 > 0:48:20Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood,
0:48:20 > 0:48:22Julianne Hough, Kellie Pickler.
0:48:22 > 0:48:24I mean, how do you set yourself apart?
0:48:24 > 0:48:27Well, you know, I have always had a tendency
0:48:27 > 0:48:29to say... My mom says that I say things
0:48:29 > 0:48:32that people think but don't have the guts to say,
0:48:32 > 0:48:34and when I first moved to town,
0:48:34 > 0:48:37I really didn't know how to sculpt a song.
0:48:37 > 0:48:39'I'd met Emily West a few times before,'
0:48:39 > 0:48:42and Emily's always been really bubbly and easy to talk to.
0:48:42 > 0:48:45I felt like now she's a little more focused.
0:48:45 > 0:48:47'She had things that she clearly wanted to say.'
0:48:47 > 0:48:49Well, this has been a great time for you.
0:48:49 > 0:48:50- You have a new single.- I do.
0:48:50 > 0:48:52And Keith Urban is singing backup on it?
0:48:52 > 0:48:53Yes, he is.
0:48:53 > 0:48:55I wrote this song, you know,
0:48:55 > 0:48:58out of a really, really bad time in my life
0:48:58 > 0:49:01with my mom and dad and their separation,
0:49:01 > 0:49:04and it was written out of pain,
0:49:04 > 0:49:07and it's been very much a healing song.
0:49:07 > 0:49:08The interview that Cynthia did with me,
0:49:08 > 0:49:10I felt ahold of my core,
0:49:10 > 0:49:12cos she was asking me some serious questions,
0:49:12 > 0:49:14and I didn't shy away and make a joke of it.
0:49:14 > 0:49:15Well, thank you so much for your time.
0:49:15 > 0:49:17It was great talking to you.
0:49:17 > 0:49:18Thank you, Cindy. Thank you so much.
0:49:18 > 0:49:19- Good luck with all of this. - All right!
0:49:19 > 0:49:21Maria gave me the confidence to breathe,
0:49:21 > 0:49:23and she had such great advice to give me
0:49:23 > 0:49:25about how to be interviewed.
0:49:25 > 0:49:27I was a huge hit!
0:49:28 > 0:49:29Did you listen?
0:49:29 > 0:49:32SHARON: No. Tell me everything.
0:49:37 > 0:49:40- I'm Cindy Sanz from People Country. - Nice to meet you.
0:49:40 > 0:49:41- How are you?- Good to see you. - Good to see you.
0:49:41 > 0:49:43- You doing all right? - Yeah. You look terrific.
0:49:43 > 0:49:44Thank you, thank you.
0:49:44 > 0:49:47People magazine is such a great opportunity for him.
0:49:47 > 0:49:48I said, "When you sit down in an interview,
0:49:48 > 0:49:52don't sit down and say, "Look, I'm burnt out. I'm tired."
0:49:52 > 0:49:54I said, "You don't have to jump around and do jumping jacks,"
0:49:54 > 0:49:58but I said, "These people are helping to break your career."
0:49:58 > 0:50:01There's so many times you're tired out here and you're run down,
0:50:01 > 0:50:03but you just have to... When you get on stage,
0:50:03 > 0:50:04it just has to all be worth it,
0:50:04 > 0:50:07and you have to give it all you got while you're up there.
0:50:07 > 0:50:09So, what do you think it will take to push you to that next level?
0:50:09 > 0:50:11- Ultimately, the right songs.- Uh-huh.
0:50:11 > 0:50:13You know, looking back, maybe there's one
0:50:13 > 0:50:16that I would have liked to have shuffled around,
0:50:16 > 0:50:18but, you know, I'm glad... I'm glad that I...
0:50:18 > 0:50:20You know, I feel like you always have to be smart
0:50:20 > 0:50:22and listen for those right songs, too.
0:50:22 > 0:50:23Mm-hmm.
0:50:23 > 0:50:27I think Luke could have not said "You know" 40 times less,
0:50:27 > 0:50:31but, "You know... you know...you know..."
0:50:31 > 0:50:34You know, my... you know, my mistakes or my...
0:50:34 > 0:50:37my highs and lows are my family's highs and lows,
0:50:37 > 0:50:40and when I come off the road, it's... Excuse me...
0:50:40 > 0:50:41- I want to do whatever I can do...- Uh-oh.
0:50:41 > 0:50:44..to spend as much time with my wife and my son
0:50:44 > 0:50:46as much as I can.
0:50:46 > 0:50:49And, you know, she's sending me pictures... Excuse me...
0:50:49 > 0:50:51..with little captions and stuff like that,
0:50:51 > 0:50:53saying, "I love you, Daddy," And stuff like that.
0:50:53 > 0:50:55And, you know, the whole experience
0:50:55 > 0:50:58has been just completely fulfilling.
0:50:58 > 0:51:00- All right. Well, thank you so much. - Thank you for your time.
0:51:00 > 0:51:02- It was great talking to you. - And I apologise for the little few yawns.
0:51:02 > 0:51:04Oh. You've had a long day.
0:51:04 > 0:51:05Yeah. Well, not only the day.
0:51:05 > 0:51:08The night was somewhat interesting, so...
0:51:08 > 0:51:09We'd actually worked with Luke Bryan
0:51:09 > 0:51:11a number of times on some different stories.
0:51:11 > 0:51:12I think Luke is a little tired.
0:51:12 > 0:51:14It had been a busy, long day,
0:51:14 > 0:51:16and sometimes he seemed a little off.
0:51:16 > 0:51:20He needs focus, and he needs to really plan out what he wants to be
0:51:20 > 0:51:22and to make it happen for himself.
0:51:24 > 0:51:27Hey, Luke, guys. We got to really focus now.
0:51:27 > 0:51:29Come on in. Let's start looking at these.
0:51:29 > 0:51:31It's a little, uh...
0:51:31 > 0:51:35I mean, the outfit is what it is. It's a little, uh, Al Pacino.
0:51:35 > 0:51:37The deal with the guitar, like I said,
0:51:37 > 0:51:40I've already told you - it's way out of my box.
0:51:40 > 0:51:42What do you think about that?
0:51:42 > 0:51:44Eh, almost good.
0:51:44 > 0:51:46- Not good.- You tell me.
0:51:46 > 0:51:47It's a little too tough there.
0:51:47 > 0:51:49This task is a tricky one, you know,
0:51:49 > 0:51:50because you're working with an artist
0:51:50 > 0:51:52who has his own look
0:51:52 > 0:51:53and dresses the way he does
0:51:53 > 0:51:55cos he feels comfortable, like we all do.
0:51:55 > 0:51:57That's a little weird look, though.
0:51:57 > 0:51:58Luke's been tough to work with
0:51:58 > 0:52:01in the fact that we're supposed to be giving him a makeover.
0:52:01 > 0:52:02He doesn't want to look any different
0:52:02 > 0:52:03than how he looks right now.
0:52:03 > 0:52:06Kind of looks like a senior picture.
0:52:06 > 0:52:07OK. Keep going.
0:52:07 > 0:52:09Eh. Eh.
0:52:09 > 0:52:11Eh. Eh.
0:52:11 > 0:52:13Eh. Eh.
0:52:13 > 0:52:15Eh. No.
0:52:15 > 0:52:17Eh.
0:52:28 > 0:52:29Look at that Scarface Guy.
0:52:29 > 0:52:32He can either say, "I'll play you a song"
0:52:32 > 0:52:33- or "I'll- BLEEP- kill you."
0:52:37 > 0:52:39Oh, my!
0:52:39 > 0:52:41There's no, uh... There's nothing on here.
0:52:41 > 0:52:43- Oh- BLEEP.
0:52:43 > 0:52:45- What?- I didn't touch up.
0:52:45 > 0:52:46I thought the press kit looked awful.
0:52:46 > 0:52:49This is such a beautiful young lady,
0:52:49 > 0:52:51but even the most beautiful young women
0:52:51 > 0:52:52need a little touch-up here and there.
0:52:52 > 0:52:54I don't have her name here,
0:52:54 > 0:52:56and I should have made it a little smaller,
0:52:56 > 0:52:57and underneath, you put her name,
0:52:57 > 0:52:59and you put "Capitol." All right, well,
0:52:59 > 0:53:01that's going to be a big mistake, but you know what?
0:53:01 > 0:53:03I did my best. There was no time.
0:53:03 > 0:53:05We just have to be better than the guys.
0:53:05 > 0:53:08I think you look cool, but your mojo got to feel it.
0:53:08 > 0:53:10- If you don't feel it... - Are you comfortable with it?
0:53:10 > 0:53:12I'm a little uncomfortable with the chain.
0:53:12 > 0:53:15This is all about kind of reinventing you a little bit,
0:53:15 > 0:53:17so maybe you ought to go out on a limb,
0:53:17 > 0:53:19even if you feel uncomfortable.
0:53:19 > 0:53:22The task was to take the musician to the next level,
0:53:22 > 0:53:24but we made him a little uncomfortable, you know,
0:53:24 > 0:53:26but that's the fine line
0:53:26 > 0:53:28that you don't want to cross,
0:53:28 > 0:53:30because if you make someone uncomfortable,
0:53:30 > 0:53:33it can be a deterrent when they're trying to perform.
0:53:34 > 0:53:35Look at that, man.
0:53:35 > 0:53:37No-one's going to say anything about that to him.
0:53:37 > 0:53:39That looks awesome.
0:53:39 > 0:53:41What's the matter with you and the necklace?
0:53:41 > 0:53:43It's just...it's a little outside my deal, but...
0:53:43 > 0:53:45God!
0:53:45 > 0:53:46If that's outside your deal right there,
0:53:46 > 0:53:49you need to broaden your deal.
0:53:50 > 0:53:52"You got to broaden your deal."
0:53:52 > 0:53:56- Guys, let's put it in. We ready? - Let's do it.- Let's do it, man.
0:53:56 > 0:53:58You call it. On three. One, two, three.
0:53:58 > 0:54:01- ALL: Rocksolid.- Baby!
0:54:06 > 0:54:09So, the judges are Pete Fisher from the Grand Ole Opry,
0:54:09 > 0:54:11Cynthia Sanz from People Country
0:54:11 > 0:54:15and Mike Culotta - a great country DJ.
0:54:15 > 0:54:18MUSIC PLAYING
0:54:18 > 0:54:20One, two...
0:54:20 > 0:54:22One, two, three, four!
0:54:29 > 0:54:30Yeah, here we go!
0:54:41 > 0:54:45# My daddy spent his life looking up at the sky
0:54:45 > 0:54:47# He'd cuss, kick the dust
0:54:47 > 0:54:49# Saying, "Son, it's way too dry"
0:54:49 > 0:54:54# Clouds up in the city And the weatherman complains
0:54:54 > 0:54:57# But where I come from Rain is a good thing... #
0:54:57 > 0:54:59Here we go!
0:54:59 > 0:55:01# Rain makes corn
0:55:01 > 0:55:03# Corn makes whisky
0:55:03 > 0:55:06# Whisky makes my baby
0:55:06 > 0:55:08# Feel a little frisky... #
0:55:08 > 0:55:11Luke Bryan's performance was magic.
0:55:11 > 0:55:13There was some good mojo going on,
0:55:13 > 0:55:15and I'd like to think it was my chain that did it,
0:55:15 > 0:55:18- the old necklace. - # Whisky makes my baby... #
0:55:18 > 0:55:20Come on! # Feel a little frisky... #
0:55:20 > 0:55:22I'm tapping my foot. I like it.
0:55:22 > 0:55:24Who knows? Maybe I'll turn into a country fan.
0:55:24 > 0:55:26(OFF-KEY) # Rain makes corn
0:55:26 > 0:55:29# Corn makes whisky... #
0:55:29 > 0:55:31OK. I'll keep cooking.
0:55:31 > 0:55:35# Rain is a good thi-i-i-i-ng! #
0:55:37 > 0:55:38Yeah!
0:55:39 > 0:55:42Thank you so much, guys! Thank you!
0:55:42 > 0:55:44Regardless of my leadership skills today
0:55:44 > 0:55:48in a field where I had no clue, I think Luke did really good.
0:55:48 > 0:55:51I truly believed we helped him go to the next level.
0:55:51 > 0:55:52I really do.
0:55:56 > 0:55:57All right, here we go.
0:55:57 > 0:55:58On three, "Emily."
0:55:58 > 0:55:59ALL: One, two, three.
0:55:59 > 0:56:01- Emily!- Tenacity!- Emily!- Emily!
0:56:01 > 0:56:03Tenacity!
0:56:07 > 0:56:08We headed into the performance.
0:56:08 > 0:56:10Emily went on stage,
0:56:10 > 0:56:13and we, as her...as her groupies,
0:56:13 > 0:56:15stayed back and just watched our...
0:56:15 > 0:56:17our rising star take the stage.
0:56:18 > 0:56:23# Weatherman says it's gonna rain tonight
0:56:26 > 0:56:31# The kind of storm where the basement floods
0:56:31 > 0:56:35# You'll lose the lights
0:56:35 > 0:56:40# You should have thought of that before
0:56:41 > 0:56:48# Cos I'm not your blue sky any more... #
0:56:50 > 0:56:52I do feel as though Emily made a nice make over.
0:56:52 > 0:56:55I do feel like Cyndi achieved a different look
0:56:55 > 0:56:56from the look that she walked in with.
0:56:56 > 0:56:58# You should have thought of that before... #
0:56:58 > 0:57:03Can I just say this woman has such a big talent?
0:57:03 > 0:57:06Emily West is going to be a superstar.
0:57:06 > 0:57:14# The weatherman says it's gonna rain toni-i-i-i-ght... #
0:57:14 > 0:57:17I got a little caught up with this kid Emily because...
0:57:17 > 0:57:20because Blue Sky makes me just cry.
0:57:20 > 0:57:24She's all set up to walk forth in her path.
0:57:24 > 0:57:31# I'm not your blue sky
0:57:31 > 0:57:34# Any more. #
0:57:46 > 0:57:47Thank you.
0:57:51 > 0:57:53Well, I hope that we see each other again.
0:57:53 > 0:57:55Can I talk to her private? Come here.
0:57:55 > 0:57:59You can take all of this forward, all right?
0:57:59 > 0:58:02And nothing happened to me till I was 30.
0:58:02 > 0:58:06Sometimes life don't begin till then, all right?
0:58:06 > 0:58:08Never give up.
0:58:08 > 0:58:10You're not going to anyway.
0:58:10 > 0:58:12I know the camera's on, but what am I going to do?
0:58:12 > 0:58:15I can't talk to you anyway, and then I won't see you.
0:58:15 > 0:58:17All right? But good luck to you.
0:58:17 > 0:58:20You'll kill them, you know?
0:58:20 > 0:58:23I know I affected her and I helped her,
0:58:23 > 0:58:26and I gave her advice
0:58:26 > 0:58:30to make her look really good and her feel really good.
0:58:30 > 0:58:32- I love you, guys. - I love you, too.
0:58:32 > 0:58:33OK, bye.
0:58:33 > 0:58:34Bye, honey.
0:58:39 > 0:58:42So, what did you guys think?
0:58:42 > 0:58:45Both performers did a great job. They really did.
0:58:45 > 0:58:47They're two different types of performers,
0:58:47 > 0:58:49and I think the teams had different approaches
0:58:49 > 0:58:50as to how to prepare.
0:58:50 > 0:58:53And, you know, I think the teams did a really good job
0:58:53 > 0:58:54of not drifting too far away
0:58:54 > 0:58:57and really kind of bringing out the good qualities.
0:58:57 > 0:58:58But I think they both helped them, you know.
0:58:58 > 0:59:00She looked a little more polished,
0:59:00 > 0:59:03a little more sophisticated, and...and he, too.
0:59:03 > 0:59:04I mean, he's sort of been
0:59:04 > 0:59:06this kind of good-time guy in Nashville,
0:59:06 > 0:59:09and he seemed like he has a little sleeker look this time.
0:59:09 > 0:59:11Yeah, when I look at the materials
0:59:11 > 0:59:14that the women came up with, you know, what I see here
0:59:14 > 0:59:18is this is a lady with great personality.
0:59:18 > 0:59:20There's a class about her.
0:59:20 > 0:59:22But that wasn't on stage tonight.
0:59:22 > 0:59:24- No.- That wasn't on stage.
0:59:24 > 0:59:26Still sophisticated from where she normally is.
0:59:26 > 0:59:28It would be vibrant colours and some fun stuff.
0:59:28 > 0:59:29In the press materials,
0:59:29 > 0:59:31I'm not sure you really get that image of her.
0:59:31 > 0:59:33You don't get the fun of Emily.
0:59:33 > 0:59:34It's a beautiful picture,
0:59:34 > 0:59:36but, to me, it's, like, really fashion-y.
0:59:36 > 0:59:38She's got so much personality and she seems so approachable,
0:59:38 > 0:59:39and this is a little formal.
0:59:39 > 0:59:42You know, as far as the guys on Luke's team,
0:59:42 > 0:59:44I always knew, you know, Luke Bryan
0:59:44 > 0:59:46as kind of a guy with a smile on his face,
0:59:46 > 0:59:47and so
0:59:47 > 0:59:51I don't know if the brand really kind of goes here.
0:59:51 > 0:59:55I just wish I would have seen a smile on his face here.
0:59:55 > 0:59:58So, guys, which team did the better job with the makeover?
1:00:10 > 1:00:11Ladies.
1:00:31 > 1:00:33First of all, I'd like to thank Trace
1:00:33 > 1:00:35for joining us on Celebrity Apprentice.
1:00:35 > 1:00:37It's nice to have you back.
1:00:37 > 1:00:39It's good to be here.
1:00:39 > 1:00:40Sharon, how are you feeling?
1:00:40 > 1:00:42So much better. Thank you, Mr Trump.
1:00:42 > 1:00:44It looks good. Very good. So you're OK?
1:00:44 > 1:00:45- Yeah, yeah.- Good.
1:00:45 > 1:00:47Cyndi, how'd your team do?
1:00:47 > 1:00:48I think they did very well.
1:00:48 > 1:00:53I was especially excited to work with Emily West.
1:00:53 > 1:00:54I think...
1:00:54 > 1:00:56Was she good?
1:00:56 > 1:00:57- She's great.- Did she have talent?
1:00:57 > 1:01:01She's... She's great. She's one of the real deals.
1:01:01 > 1:01:04Maria, what did you think of Cyndi?
1:01:04 > 1:01:07Um, she knew definitely what she wanted,
1:01:07 > 1:01:10and I really do wish - and I told her this already -
1:01:10 > 1:01:13I wish that she would let us finish our thoughts
1:01:13 > 1:01:15and finish our sentences.
1:01:15 > 1:01:17Why wouldn't she let you finish your sentences or thoughts?
1:01:17 > 1:01:20Cos she's very passionate, and she should be.
1:01:20 > 1:01:22She's been in the entert...
1:01:22 > 1:01:24Did you think it was wrong that she didn't?
1:01:24 > 1:01:27I think that it would have benefited her
1:01:27 > 1:01:28to listen a little bit more.
1:01:30 > 1:01:31OK.
1:01:31 > 1:01:33Let me ask you this, Maria.
1:01:33 > 1:01:35You have a great personal style, according to everyone.
1:01:35 > 1:01:38Who knows? But they say you have a great personal style.
1:01:38 > 1:01:39Thank you.
1:01:39 > 1:01:42Did Cyndi use you when it came to styling?
1:01:42 > 1:01:44I kind of just inserted myself at the end.
1:01:44 > 1:01:46I helped out with...
1:01:46 > 1:01:48I sewed the dress
1:01:48 > 1:01:50to make it a little bit tighter and more fitted.
1:01:50 > 1:01:52I also made her push up the girls a little bit more
1:01:52 > 1:01:55and helped her style her undergarments
1:01:55 > 1:01:57so that they fit properly.
1:01:57 > 1:02:01Good. So, Cyndi, did Maria help you?
1:02:01 > 1:02:04She helped me, but sometimes she just sticks herself in there
1:02:04 > 1:02:05when she shouldn't.
1:02:05 > 1:02:07Overly aggressive?
1:02:07 > 1:02:09No, no. It's not that.
1:02:09 > 1:02:13She's compelled to do it, and I appreciate it,
1:02:13 > 1:02:16but...for Emily,
1:02:16 > 1:02:17she can have a little edge,
1:02:17 > 1:02:21but too much edge doesn't match her music,
1:02:21 > 1:02:23and that's what I was very clear about doing.
1:02:23 > 1:02:26Maria, do you think they took the makeover far enough?
1:02:26 > 1:02:26What do you think?
1:02:26 > 1:02:29I do think that we could have taken it a little bit farther.
1:02:29 > 1:02:31I think that we could have, you know,
1:02:31 > 1:02:33done something a little edgier with her hair,
1:02:33 > 1:02:36cos it ended up... her hair that she wore during the show
1:02:36 > 1:02:37was pretty much the same that she usually wears.
1:02:37 > 1:02:39Maria, why didn't you take it further?
1:02:39 > 1:02:42If you think you could've taken it further, why didn't you?
1:02:42 > 1:02:44Yeah, because you were in charge of the make-up and hair.
1:02:44 > 1:02:47But you had very specific things that you...
1:02:47 > 1:02:49Yeah, I gave them the picture, and when I came in,
1:02:49 > 1:02:52her hair looked exactly the same way it looked when she...
1:02:52 > 1:02:54the way she normally wears it.
1:02:54 > 1:02:55But you said that you wanted it
1:02:55 > 1:02:58to be loose and curls for the beginning.
1:02:58 > 1:03:00Not parted in the middle.
1:03:00 > 1:03:02- But she did... - It wasn't like the picture.
1:03:02 > 1:03:05It wasn't like the picture at all.
1:03:07 > 1:03:09So, Trace, what did you think of Emily?
1:03:09 > 1:03:11Um, aside from the underwear,
1:03:11 > 1:03:13which I will attest,
1:03:13 > 1:03:15as an entertainer, you go on stage with the wrong underwear on,
1:03:15 > 1:03:18and it's just going to mess the whole thing up.
1:03:18 > 1:03:20Trace, you got to stop wearing those granny panties, right?
1:03:20 > 1:03:21Yeah. See, you got be very careful about that.
1:03:21 > 1:03:24Bridget Jones' knickers.
1:03:24 > 1:03:28But Emily sang the way Emily always sings. She can wail.
1:03:28 > 1:03:30Cyndi, who was your strongest player?
1:03:36 > 1:03:38I thought all of them, except for this one.
1:03:38 > 1:03:40Yeah, but you always tell me that. Except who?
1:03:40 > 1:03:43No, no. Maria. Maria started to get on my nerves.
1:03:43 > 1:03:45If I was in...
1:03:45 > 1:03:47You don't like Maria much, actually.
1:03:47 > 1:03:52I like her, but I think sometimes she speaks just to speak.
1:03:52 > 1:03:53That's how I feel.
1:03:53 > 1:03:56So, if I were going to fire someone if your team loses,
1:03:56 > 1:03:57I would fire Maria, according to you.
1:03:57 > 1:03:59I would.
1:04:01 > 1:04:02OK
1:04:02 > 1:04:04How do you respond to that, Maria?
1:04:06 > 1:04:10She doesn't know what I've done, she doesn't know where I've been,
1:04:10 > 1:04:12and, basically, she treated me like a child,
1:04:12 > 1:04:14so I got defensive.
1:04:14 > 1:04:18Are you disappointed with Cyndi, to a certain extent?
1:04:18 > 1:04:21I'm very disappointed, because I had this...
1:04:21 > 1:04:26this vision of my childhood idol that is being ruined,
1:04:26 > 1:04:28and I'm just separating the two right now.
1:04:28 > 1:04:33I'm just... Cyndi Lauper then and being this amazing singer
1:04:33 > 1:04:35and this, you know, vision I had dancing around in my room
1:04:35 > 1:04:37to Girls Just Wanna Have Fun,
1:04:37 > 1:04:40to now, where it's kind of like Girls Just Wanna Be Mean.
1:04:40 > 1:04:42- So it did put me on edge. - Do you think she's mean?
1:04:44 > 1:04:46She was mean.
1:04:46 > 1:04:48You know what? I'll send you a picture.
1:04:48 > 1:04:50You can draw a dartboard and throw it.
1:04:50 > 1:04:51And I understand you've done a lot.
1:04:51 > 1:04:54Holly, you winced. What are you wincing about?
1:04:54 > 1:04:57Oh, the only thing is, I do understand where Maria's coming from,
1:04:57 > 1:04:59and there were moments where I felt Cyndi shut me down,
1:04:59 > 1:05:01but, you know, in the end, she's the Project Manager,
1:05:01 > 1:05:03and the reason why I winced is because when Maria said
1:05:03 > 1:05:05that her childhood hero
1:05:05 > 1:05:08was sort of, you know, being shattered or whatever...
1:05:08 > 1:05:10It was a pretty tough statement. Sharon, you did the same thing.
1:05:10 > 1:05:12You went, like, "Wow." That was a tough statement, right?
1:05:12 > 1:05:14Yeah. But people always say that, Sharon.
1:05:14 > 1:05:16But I... No, no.
1:05:16 > 1:05:20I just don't think that... She's not come here as a fan.
1:05:20 > 1:05:24- No.- So, nobody's illusion is, you know, is shattered.
1:05:24 > 1:05:26But, Maria, you're disappointed by what's taken place.
1:05:26 > 1:05:27Yeah, of course I am.
1:05:31 > 1:05:33Sharon, now, you have been, as I understand it,
1:05:33 > 1:05:35a great manager of talent over the years, right?
1:05:35 > 1:05:36Greatest.
1:05:36 > 1:05:39Did Cyndi ever ask you, "How do we manage this talent?"
1:05:39 > 1:05:42She asked me what I felt about the photo shoot.
1:05:42 > 1:05:45She asked me what I felt about the portrait shots.
1:05:45 > 1:05:47- So, she respected your opinion? - Absolutely.
1:05:47 > 1:05:49- OK. And you have no complaints about that?- No.
1:05:49 > 1:05:51She's one of the greatest managers ever.
1:05:51 > 1:05:53- I agree.- She's a brilliant...
1:05:53 > 1:05:55- Just ask her husband.- Yeah.
1:05:55 > 1:05:59As great as he is, without her, probably Ozzy's not Ozzy, right?
1:05:59 > 1:06:01So, don't answer that, Sharon. I'll tell you that.
1:06:01 > 1:06:03Goldberg, I'm just thinking, she is one of the greatest
1:06:03 > 1:06:06show-business managers of all time.
1:06:06 > 1:06:08Do you think you people had a disadvantage?
1:06:09 > 1:06:12You know, there is no question
1:06:12 > 1:06:16one of the best creative minds in music in Sharon.
1:06:16 > 1:06:19There's also one of the most creative people in music,
1:06:19 > 1:06:21which is Cyndi over there,
1:06:21 > 1:06:24but I think we have a great combination of that
1:06:24 > 1:06:25in my boy here.
1:06:25 > 1:06:27- Thanks.- I...
1:06:27 > 1:06:29Did Bret do a good job?
1:06:29 > 1:06:31I think Bret did a great job, and everybody knows
1:06:31 > 1:06:33that Bret is experiencing
1:06:33 > 1:06:36a little bit of difficulty with his daughter.
1:06:36 > 1:06:38How is that going?
1:06:38 > 1:06:40Uh, I didn't get the answer I wanted to hear,
1:06:40 > 1:06:42but it's...it went better than I was...
1:06:42 > 1:06:44- But she's going to be fine. - She'll be fine. She'll be fine.
1:06:44 > 1:06:45Go ahead, Goldberg.
1:06:45 > 1:06:48As moronic as it was for me to
1:06:48 > 1:06:51take over task management on this one,
1:06:51 > 1:06:54um, I delegated most of the responsibilities -
1:06:54 > 1:06:57I would say 95% of it - to Bret,
1:06:57 > 1:06:58because that's what he does.
1:06:58 > 1:07:01But if you're Project Manager - and I agree with delegation,
1:07:01 > 1:07:03I think delegation's a great thing,
1:07:03 > 1:07:06especially when you have somebody with expertise, as Bret does,
1:07:06 > 1:07:08but when you say you delegated 95%,
1:07:08 > 1:07:09that sounds like a lot.
1:07:09 > 1:07:12Well, I might have been exaggerating a tiny bit.
1:07:12 > 1:07:14- 90%, right?- Maybe 87%.
1:07:14 > 1:07:17Bret, were you the boss?
1:07:17 > 1:07:19No, no, not at all.
1:07:19 > 1:07:21Were you the one that really ran things?
1:07:21 > 1:07:23I was the assistant Project Manager.
1:07:23 > 1:07:25Yeah, except they were your ideas.
1:07:25 > 1:07:26Right.
1:07:26 > 1:07:30I honestly was shocked when we gave you the task
1:07:30 > 1:07:33and everybody just pointed at Goldberg,
1:07:33 > 1:07:37because, I mean, the logical choice was Bret.
1:07:37 > 1:07:39I mean, I don't understand why, Bret,
1:07:39 > 1:07:42you didn't just step up and go, "This is mine."
1:07:42 > 1:07:44This is why we did it - his charity deserves a chance,
1:07:44 > 1:07:46as all of ours does, and that's why we did it,
1:07:46 > 1:07:48and I knew I'd have his back.
1:07:48 > 1:07:50Bret, let me ask you this. You wear the bandana.
1:07:50 > 1:07:52I don't even know what's under that bandana.
1:07:52 > 1:07:57But...why didn't you have Luke wear a bandana?
1:07:57 > 1:07:59It's sort of cool. You know, I mean, if I were in your business,
1:07:59 > 1:08:01I think I'd wear a bandana, too. I'd probably do it like that.
1:08:01 > 1:08:04Right. I'd wear a bandana. I think it's cool.
1:08:04 > 1:08:05It's like Trace wears the hat.
1:08:05 > 1:08:06I think there's something cool about that, right?
1:08:06 > 1:08:08But he always wears a hat.
1:08:08 > 1:08:11Would Luke have been good with a bandana?
1:08:11 > 1:08:14Um, I do... Luke would not have been good with a bandana.
1:08:14 > 1:08:17I know a little bit about Luke, and I asked him immediately,
1:08:17 > 1:08:20"Where are you at in your life? Where are you going?
1:08:20 > 1:08:22"What do you want to be perceived as?," Right?
1:08:22 > 1:08:24Because the first thing you got to do with any real artist
1:08:24 > 1:08:26is you got to find out where their heart is.
1:08:26 > 1:08:28I can... I can tell him to do anything. I could...
1:08:28 > 1:08:31You know, I could've told him, "Wear this. Do that,"
1:08:31 > 1:08:33and if he feels uncomfortable when he goes on that stage,
1:08:33 > 1:08:35he is going to be awful. We know that.
1:08:37 > 1:08:41OK. Give them each other's little promo kit, if you would.
1:08:41 > 1:08:43I'd like to hear what you think.
1:08:54 > 1:08:55It's very good.
1:09:03 > 1:09:05It's beautiful, ladies.
1:09:06 > 1:09:08And they put a picture on the inside.
1:09:09 > 1:09:12They did a much better job.
1:09:12 > 1:09:13Much better job.
1:09:13 > 1:09:15I think bandanas are cool.
1:09:15 > 1:09:18I think if I were in that business, I'd wear a bandana.
1:09:18 > 1:09:20Lucky for me, you're not in this business.
1:09:22 > 1:09:24What do you think of their work?
1:09:24 > 1:09:26I think it's beautiful. I think it's beautiful.
1:09:26 > 1:09:29- Is she beautiful? - Oh, no question about it.
1:09:29 > 1:09:31Let me just see it. I haven't even seen it.
1:09:31 > 1:09:33She's got beautiful eyes, like, her face.
1:09:33 > 1:09:35- I think she's awesome. - She's amazing.
1:09:35 > 1:09:36- I really do. - You think Emily's amazing.
1:09:36 > 1:09:38Then I think you did a really bad job with this picture.
1:09:38 > 1:09:40No, no, that's not airbrushed at all.
1:09:40 > 1:09:42- That's not touched up. Not touched up at all.- I hope not.
1:09:42 > 1:09:45Trace, do you like Emily, or do you like Luke's work,
1:09:45 > 1:09:47in terms of the brochures?
1:09:47 > 1:09:49What do you like better?
1:09:49 > 1:09:52Well, I... I think the one they did for Emily
1:09:52 > 1:09:55- is a little more polished. - You're obviously not a skin man.
1:09:57 > 1:09:58I didn't look that close.
1:09:58 > 1:10:00You know, there are some men that don't care about skin.
1:10:00 > 1:10:02I didn't look at it with a magnifying glass like you did.
1:10:02 > 1:10:04No, but you would touch this up.
1:10:04 > 1:10:06- Well, it's a little late, right? - You can't...in one hour?
1:10:06 > 1:10:08Wouldn't you touch it up before you show it to me?
1:10:08 > 1:10:10You know, I've learned, Trace is not a skin man, which is OK.
1:10:10 > 1:10:13- There you go. All right. - I wish I wasn't.
1:10:13 > 1:10:15And, Maria, please have your mole removed
1:10:15 > 1:10:16off your frickin' chin.
1:10:16 > 1:10:17OK. All right.
1:10:20 > 1:10:21All right, let me see the other one.
1:10:25 > 1:10:29So, Luke is, uh... He's a nice-looking guy.
1:10:29 > 1:10:30Guys aren't my thing.
1:10:30 > 1:10:33- Well, join the club, except for Bret.- Oh.
1:10:35 > 1:10:38See, I happen to think he'd look better in a bandana.
1:10:38 > 1:10:40Enough with the bandana thing.
1:10:40 > 1:10:42No, but...but, seriously,
1:10:42 > 1:10:44I think this guy would look great in a bandana.
1:10:48 > 1:10:49Trace, what did you think?
1:10:49 > 1:10:52So, I was just curious, Rocksolid,
1:10:52 > 1:10:57how far would Luke actually let you go?
1:10:57 > 1:10:59Luke didn't want to go very far.
1:10:59 > 1:11:01He... I mean, just getting him to open up to use,
1:11:01 > 1:11:03like, the necklace, I mean, I found it was, like...
1:11:03 > 1:11:05Isn't that disrespectful to you, though? You guys are professionals.
1:11:05 > 1:11:07I got to be honest with you. He was really trying.
1:11:07 > 1:11:09For him to give that little bit...
1:11:09 > 1:11:12He did get him to do something. I mean, I'm familiar with Luke,
1:11:12 > 1:11:15and when I saw him on stage without a ball cap on...
1:11:15 > 1:11:18He never goes on stage without wearing a baseball cap.
1:11:18 > 1:11:22A baseball cap isn't the same thing, though, right? Is it?
1:11:22 > 1:11:24It's different when you don't have one on.
1:11:24 > 1:11:25One problem that we had
1:11:25 > 1:11:28was that Luke is an established singer.
1:11:28 > 1:11:29He's been around for a while,
1:11:29 > 1:11:32and we thought we were getting a clay mould
1:11:32 > 1:11:35that we could give advice to and go in that direction.
1:11:35 > 1:11:38- And he would not take your advice? - No. He took some of our advice.
1:11:38 > 1:11:39Don't you think you could have forced him?
1:11:39 > 1:11:40- He never wanted to smile. - Yeah, but, Goldberg,
1:11:40 > 1:11:43couldn't you have forced him to take your advice?
1:11:43 > 1:11:45He never in a million years would've walked in
1:11:45 > 1:11:47with anything resembling this clothing,
1:11:47 > 1:11:48in a million years.
1:11:48 > 1:11:50We did push him, Mr Trump.
1:11:50 > 1:11:51We pushed him. And you know what?
1:11:51 > 1:11:53He did...
1:11:53 > 1:11:54So, do you resent the fact that he wouldn't listen to you?
1:11:54 > 1:11:57Absolutely not, because if I would have made him listen to me,
1:11:57 > 1:12:00it would have made him very uncomfortable in his performance.
1:12:01 > 1:12:03Sharon, does Luke have star potential?
1:12:03 > 1:12:06I don't know, cos I... I swear to you,
1:12:06 > 1:12:07I haven't heard him sing.
1:12:07 > 1:12:09OK. Could you make him a star?
1:12:09 > 1:12:12You'd have to have somebody that's willing to change.
1:12:12 > 1:12:14But do you think he has the charisma,
1:12:14 > 1:12:16or do you think you could give him the charis...
1:12:16 > 1:12:18Charisma's very hard to give. It's very hard.
1:12:18 > 1:12:19People either have it, or they don't.
1:12:19 > 1:12:20You've either got it, or you don't.
1:12:20 > 1:12:22And you either are... You're special,
1:12:22 > 1:12:23or you're not special.
1:12:23 > 1:12:25It's a tough game.
1:12:25 > 1:12:27It's a really tough game.
1:12:27 > 1:12:29Do I have star potential?
1:12:29 > 1:12:30- Abso...- BLEEP- ..lutely.
1:12:30 > 1:12:31- You better- BLEEP- believe it.
1:12:33 > 1:12:36So, Sharon, what do you think of their work?
1:12:36 > 1:12:38Cos I think it's very good.
1:12:38 > 1:12:39I think it's a great package. Very good.
1:12:39 > 1:12:41- Do you think it's better than yours?- Yes. Yeah.
1:12:41 > 1:12:43- I do.- It's more informative.
1:12:43 > 1:12:48I do, but it's not up to me. It's up to the executives.
1:12:48 > 1:12:53And the fact is, the music-industry insiders
1:12:53 > 1:12:55really preferred the men's promo kit better.
1:12:58 > 1:13:01However, that's not the only criteria.
1:13:01 > 1:13:03OK?
1:13:03 > 1:13:05Don, do you have anything else to say?
1:13:05 > 1:13:07Well, for the women,
1:13:07 > 1:13:11the industry insiders thought Emily came across more polished
1:13:11 > 1:13:12than she had been before.
1:13:12 > 1:13:14The makeover was transforming, and it allowed her
1:13:14 > 1:13:17to really shine in her interview with People magazine.
1:13:17 > 1:13:21So, on the criteria of overall makeover, the women did better.
1:13:21 > 1:13:25But again, that's just a small portion of it.
1:13:25 > 1:13:28It all comes down to who gave their artist
1:13:28 > 1:13:30a better shot at breaking out.
1:13:30 > 1:13:34Trace, who did the music insiders think
1:13:34 > 1:13:37and tell you is the winning team?
1:13:39 > 1:13:42Well, I talked to all three -
1:13:42 > 1:13:44the disc jockey, the journalist from People,
1:13:44 > 1:13:46and Pete Fisher,
1:13:46 > 1:13:48the general manager of the Grand Ole Opry,
1:13:48 > 1:13:49and they were all unanimous.
1:13:53 > 1:13:55And they thought that the ladies won.
1:13:55 > 1:13:56Thank you, and thank you, True Colours.
1:13:56 > 1:13:58Thank you, True Colours.
1:13:58 > 1:14:00Cyndi, what is your charity?
1:14:00 > 1:14:03The Stonewall Community Foundation
1:14:03 > 1:14:05in support of the True Colours Fund
1:14:05 > 1:14:08to promote awareness about the civil rights
1:14:08 > 1:14:13that the lesbian, gay, transgender, and bisexual people
1:14:13 > 1:14:16- do not have in this country. - Well, as winning Project Manager,
1:14:16 > 1:14:18you're going to get 20,000.
1:14:18 > 1:14:20Thank you. Thank you.
1:14:20 > 1:14:23In addition to that, Emily West and Luke Bryan
1:14:23 > 1:14:25will donate all proceeds
1:14:25 > 1:14:27from the next month of sales at iTunes
1:14:27 > 1:14:31of their singles Blue Sky and Rain To your charity.
1:14:31 > 1:14:33- So, that could be a lot of money. - Wow.
1:14:33 > 1:14:35So, I congratulate you very much.
1:14:35 > 1:14:37- It could be quite a bit. - Thank you.
1:14:39 > 1:14:41All right, Cyndi. Get out of here.
1:14:41 > 1:14:42All right. I'm out of here.
1:14:49 > 1:14:52All right, men. Unfortunately, somebody will be fired.
1:15:06 > 1:15:08Thank you all, and I know you think
1:15:08 > 1:15:09I'm a big fat pain in the ass and that I was...
1:15:09 > 1:15:11I am, too.
1:15:11 > 1:15:12Yeah, you are, but I love you.
1:15:12 > 1:15:14I know you have... You mean well,
1:15:14 > 1:15:18and I'm sorry that your dream of me was tarnished,
1:15:18 > 1:15:20but there is one thing I can always tell you.
1:15:20 > 1:15:24Never meet the person you really admire all your life...
1:15:24 > 1:15:26I should have called first.
1:15:26 > 1:15:28cos you're always going to be disappointed.
1:15:29 > 1:15:30Can we put the TV on?
1:15:31 > 1:15:35- Here we go, guys. - I feel bad for these guys.
1:15:35 > 1:15:38Goldberg, do you regret the fact
1:15:38 > 1:15:41that you sort of volunteered to be Project Manager?
1:15:41 > 1:15:43You know, I'll be perfectly honest with you.
1:15:43 > 1:15:44I thought it was time for me to step up.
1:15:44 > 1:15:47I was the only team member who hadn't been Project Manager,
1:15:47 > 1:15:51and I knew that I could delegate most of the responsibilities
1:15:51 > 1:15:54to the man who knows the business.
1:15:54 > 1:15:57Do you think you did a good job as Project Manager?
1:15:58 > 1:16:00You know, um...
1:16:00 > 1:16:03Obviously, I didn't do a good enough job to win.
1:16:04 > 1:16:07Bret, if you were me, who would you fire?
1:16:09 > 1:16:11I don't want to go home, but I'll tell you what...
1:16:11 > 1:16:13I took the responsibility.
1:16:13 > 1:16:16And I... These guys worked their butts off,
1:16:16 > 1:16:18but I was responsible.
1:16:18 > 1:16:20I thought we won. I thought, hands down, we won.
1:16:20 > 1:16:23Curtis, who do you think should be fired?
1:16:29 > 1:16:31That's a really line ball, Mr Trump.
1:16:31 > 1:16:33Go ahead, tell me. Who would you fire?
1:16:33 > 1:16:35Just say it.
1:16:35 > 1:16:36I'd fire Bret.
1:16:37 > 1:16:38Why?
1:16:40 > 1:16:43Because I think he did take on the responsibility.
1:16:43 > 1:16:45And I don't want to say that. I don't think you did a bad job.
1:16:45 > 1:16:47- No, say it.- I think you did as good as you could.
1:16:48 > 1:16:50Yeah, but he wasn't the Project Manager,
1:16:50 > 1:16:51and it wasn't really his job.
1:16:51 > 1:16:53It was being delegated to him,
1:16:53 > 1:16:56and everybody tells me he did a really good job,
1:16:56 > 1:16:58and, therefore, Goldberg could also get credit,
1:16:58 > 1:17:00maybe for delegating.
1:17:00 > 1:17:02Curtis, what did you contribute?
1:17:02 > 1:17:04I tried to keep us on schedule,
1:17:04 > 1:17:06and that's always tough with our team.
1:17:06 > 1:17:09We're only three people, so, obviously, we're undermanned.
1:17:09 > 1:17:12And I do find it a little bit tough with Bret sometimes
1:17:12 > 1:17:16to keep him focused, in terms of when our deadlines are.
1:17:16 > 1:17:20And I think you've done a much better job, Bret.
1:17:20 > 1:17:21I honestly do, and I hope
1:17:21 > 1:17:23you don't take this the wrong way, mate,
1:17:23 > 1:17:26because I really think you worked as hard as you possibly could,
1:17:26 > 1:17:27but there's difficulty.
1:17:27 > 1:17:29He's very creative, and he tends to go on,
1:17:29 > 1:17:31and, you know, he'll be asking a question,
1:17:31 > 1:17:32then he'll start telling a story,
1:17:32 > 1:17:34and by the time he's asked the question,
1:17:34 > 1:17:35you know, we've wasted a bit of time,
1:17:35 > 1:17:37which you can't afford to do when you've only got three players.
1:17:37 > 1:17:39Oh, boy. Here we go.
1:17:39 > 1:17:40Well...
1:17:40 > 1:17:41It's a creative thing.
1:17:41 > 1:17:43It is.
1:17:43 > 1:17:44It is totally a creative thing.
1:17:44 > 1:17:46Hard game for creative people.
1:17:46 > 1:17:48But Bret did a good job.
1:17:49 > 1:17:52Bill, you've been a pretty tough leader throughout a lot of this,
1:17:52 > 1:17:54even though you haven't been the PM Yet.
1:17:54 > 1:17:56Now, do you think it was a tactical error, perhaps,
1:17:56 > 1:17:58on your part, not stepping up earlier
1:17:58 > 1:18:00to be the Project Manager,
1:18:00 > 1:18:02where you could have given something like this to Bret?
1:18:06 > 1:18:08Um...maybe.
1:18:08 > 1:18:10Maybe just kind of free-riding for a little bit, little bit,
1:18:10 > 1:18:12and then broke your stride
1:18:12 > 1:18:13in a task that wasn't good for you to be PM?
1:18:13 > 1:18:15I don't free-ride in anything, man.
1:18:15 > 1:18:16You know me better than that.
1:18:16 > 1:18:18I don't free-ride, OK?
1:18:18 > 1:18:22That's not my job. That's not what I do, OK?
1:18:22 > 1:18:24The fact is that I stepped up
1:18:24 > 1:18:25because I was under the assumption...
1:18:25 > 1:18:27Well, you know, you're saying that to Don,
1:18:27 > 1:18:30but in all fairness, you appointed somebody
1:18:30 > 1:18:33and you said he did 95% of the work and the thinking.
1:18:33 > 1:18:35So, wouldn't you say that's a free ride?
1:18:35 > 1:18:38I was... I was mistaken
1:18:38 > 1:18:40as to the percentage of delegation.
1:18:40 > 1:18:41But you're saying you don't free-ride,
1:18:41 > 1:18:43and yet you appointed him, and you said before...
1:18:43 > 1:18:46I think I'm correct - I have a great memory.
1:18:46 > 1:18:49You said 95% of the work was done by Bret.
1:18:50 > 1:18:51I was wrong.
1:18:51 > 1:18:53It wasn't 95% of the work.
1:18:53 > 1:18:54Well, what was it? It had to be a lot.
1:18:54 > 1:18:56Then you said it was 87 after that.
1:18:56 > 1:19:00He did probably 70% of the work, OK?
1:19:00 > 1:19:02Now, the reality is, he has the vision...
1:19:02 > 1:19:05Well, that's a lot. Wouldn't you say that's a lot?
1:19:05 > 1:19:07You're Project Manager. I mean, that's a lot.
1:19:07 > 1:19:08You know, Mr Trump,
1:19:08 > 1:19:10I've been hit in the head a lot of times,
1:19:10 > 1:19:13so maybe my math is off, OK?
1:19:13 > 1:19:16But as far as the three of us are concerned,
1:19:16 > 1:19:20this was Bret's area of expertise.
1:19:20 > 1:19:22Would you rather have me fire Bret
1:19:22 > 1:19:25because he did a lot of work, even though it was good work
1:19:25 > 1:19:27and we all admit that and we all agree with that,
1:19:27 > 1:19:31or yourself because you're Project Manager?
1:19:31 > 1:19:32That's your decision.
1:19:32 > 1:19:35It is my decision, and I'm going to make the decision,
1:19:35 > 1:19:39but do you think I should fire you, as Project Manager,
1:19:39 > 1:19:40or Bret?
1:19:40 > 1:19:43And I'm going to leave the other guy out
1:19:43 > 1:19:44because, to be honest with you,
1:19:44 > 1:19:46I don't think he comes into play right now.
1:19:46 > 1:19:47What would you say?
1:19:47 > 1:19:50You were Project Manager. You appointed somebody.
1:19:50 > 1:19:54You said he did 95%, 75%, 80%, all different numbers.
1:19:54 > 1:19:56But it doesn't matter. He did a lot of the work.
1:19:57 > 1:19:59Would you say that that person should be fired,
1:19:59 > 1:20:01if you were me,
1:20:01 > 1:20:03or should the Project Manager, you, be fired?
1:20:04 > 1:20:06Depends on your opinion.
1:20:06 > 1:20:08Well, what's your opinion?
1:20:10 > 1:20:13I think I was wrong stepping up in the first place.
1:20:13 > 1:20:14- Which is a reason to be fired.- But I...
1:20:15 > 1:20:17Maybe it is.
1:20:17 > 1:20:19I think, frankly, Bret should have been Project Manager.
1:20:21 > 1:20:26I was unfortunately misinformed by my own stupidity
1:20:26 > 1:20:28in that I figured that,
1:20:28 > 1:20:30since I hadn't been Project Manager,
1:20:30 > 1:20:34I had to step up. And as a man, I stepped up.
1:20:34 > 1:20:36But I think you were wrong in that decision, also.
1:20:36 > 1:20:39But like I said, that's what I thought was supposed to happen.
1:20:39 > 1:20:40I know, as a man, but, you know,
1:20:40 > 1:20:41this isn't about being a man or being anything.
1:20:41 > 1:20:43This is about making the right business decision.
1:20:43 > 1:20:44Then I made the wrong decision.
1:20:44 > 1:20:46You did make the wrong decision.
1:20:46 > 1:20:48All right. Goldberg, you're fired.
1:20:53 > 1:20:54- Thank you.- Thank you.
1:20:54 > 1:20:56I'll see you later. I appreciate the opportunity.
1:20:56 > 1:20:57Thank you very much.
1:20:57 > 1:20:59Bill, I feel sick in my stomach.
1:20:59 > 1:21:01Just get out of here, Bret. You won. Don't feel sick.
1:21:03 > 1:21:06You should feel good. You shouldn't feel sick.
1:21:06 > 1:21:08I feel... I feel great. I just lost my friend, though.
1:21:15 > 1:21:16Love you, guys. Love you, Bill.
1:21:16 > 1:21:18It was a pleasure, really.
1:21:18 > 1:21:19And you know what? Kick some ass, will you?
1:21:19 > 1:21:21You know we will. You know we will.
1:21:21 > 1:21:22All right. Appreciate it.
1:21:22 > 1:21:24I'll see you later, man. Go home and see your son.
1:21:36 > 1:21:37I think we made the right decision.
1:21:37 > 1:21:38What do you think, Trace?
1:21:38 > 1:21:40I don't think so.
1:21:41 > 1:21:42You would have fired...
1:21:42 > 1:21:43- Bret.- Really?
1:21:43 > 1:21:45- What do you think, Don? - Yeah, I'm with you.
1:21:45 > 1:21:46I think the Project Manager
1:21:46 > 1:21:47still has to make the final decisions.
1:21:47 > 1:21:48Even if he's taking advice
1:21:48 > 1:21:50from someone who knows what they're doing,
1:21:50 > 1:21:51he's got to make the call.
1:21:51 > 1:21:52He didn't make the right call.
1:21:52 > 1:21:55I point-blank asked the industry insiders
1:21:55 > 1:21:57who they thought the Project Manager was,
1:21:57 > 1:21:58and they all said Bret.
1:21:58 > 1:22:00- Well, yeah, but isn't that the PM's mistake?- I know.
1:22:00 > 1:22:02If he didn't step up enough...
1:22:02 > 1:22:04Well, you know, one of the reasons I did that
1:22:04 > 1:22:06is because he should not have been the Project Manager.
1:22:06 > 1:22:08He should not. The mistake was made yesterday morning.
1:22:08 > 1:22:09He wanted to be Project Manager.
1:22:09 > 1:22:11He shouldn't have chosen this task.
1:22:11 > 1:22:14- He should not have.- And that's the primary reason I fired him.
1:22:14 > 1:22:15Being on that side of the table...
1:22:15 > 1:22:16- Does that make you feel better?- Yes.
1:22:16 > 1:22:18Good. Now I feel better.
1:22:18 > 1:22:19Good.
1:22:51 > 1:22:54Obviously, if you're as competitive a person as I am,
1:22:54 > 1:22:57you want to win everything, but at the end of the day,
1:22:57 > 1:22:59I think Donald makes his own decisions
1:22:59 > 1:23:02based upon what he believes is right.
1:23:02 > 1:23:04I take full responsibility for my team losing
1:23:04 > 1:23:07because I was the Project Manager, no question.
1:23:07 > 1:23:09If I didn't take full responsibility for my team losing,
1:23:09 > 1:23:11- then I wouldn't be in the- BLEEP- car.