Episode 1

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:04 > 0:00:08Holy talk show! It's Friday night and it's superhero night. Chat! Anecdote! Mindless applause!

0:00:08 > 0:00:12Let's start the show!

0:00:12 > 0:00:16APPLAUSE

0:00:26 > 0:00:29APPLAUSE

0:00:29 > 0:00:31Oh! Oh!

0:00:31 > 0:00:32Hello!

0:00:34 > 0:00:35Yes!

0:00:36 > 0:00:39Welcome, one! Welcome, all!

0:00:39 > 0:00:41We're back. It's a good one, ladies and gentlemen.

0:00:41 > 0:00:46We've got Batman, we've got Superman and we've got Lois Lane right here on this show.

0:00:46 > 0:00:47Who here likes Batman?

0:00:47 > 0:00:50CHEERING

0:00:50 > 0:00:51Who here likes Superman?

0:00:51 > 0:00:53CHEERING

0:00:53 > 0:00:58Who here doesn't care, as long as they get their tops off? CHEERING

0:00:58 > 0:00:59HE LAUGHS

0:00:59 > 0:01:00Seriously, though.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02Seriously, though!

0:01:02 > 0:01:05Batman or Superman - it's a difficult choice, you know,

0:01:05 > 0:01:08cos Batman's got the cool suit, the car, the butler,

0:01:08 > 0:01:10the millions of pounds, while Superman... Yeah!

0:01:10 > 0:01:12WOLF WHISTLE

0:01:12 > 0:01:13LAUGHTER

0:01:13 > 0:01:17He doesn't have a shirt. But I tell you, in this film, Superman really has it in for Batman.

0:01:17 > 0:01:22Not sure if I can think of a rich power-crazed American businessman whose face I'd like to punch.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25LAUGHTER

0:01:25 > 0:01:26Hey, that's all to come -

0:01:26 > 0:01:29plus music and chat from Pet Shop Boys.

0:01:30 > 0:01:33So let's get those guests on.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36First, is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Superman himself. Henry Cavill!

0:01:36 > 0:01:40APPLAUSE

0:01:40 > 0:01:42- Superman - hello, sir. - Hey, how you doing?

0:01:42 > 0:01:44- Come and sit down.- Thank you.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49Hot off the press, it's only Lois Lane.

0:01:49 > 0:01:52Please welcome five-times Oscar nominee - Amy Adams, everybody!

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Yay!

0:01:55 > 0:01:58Hello, how are you?

0:01:58 > 0:02:03- How are you?- I'm very well. Come and sit down.- Thank you.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06And holy double Oscar winner - the Batman is here.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Welcome for the first time to the show Mr Ben Affleck.

0:02:09 > 0:02:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:02:21 > 0:02:24Gang's all here! Welcome, one. Welcome, all.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- Are you all well? - Yes, thank you very much.

0:02:27 > 0:02:28Good, good, good.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31And it's welcome back now, Amy and Henry, you were here before.

0:02:31 > 0:02:35- Ben, you've never been here before. - No, it's very intimidating.

0:02:35 > 0:02:39- No, they told you - it's easy. - They told me it was very easy, yeah.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41- Nothing, really.- It's fine.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44And before we do another thing, congratulations to Amy Adams,

0:02:44 > 0:02:45cos you're now a lady, married wife?

0:02:45 > 0:02:51- Yeah. Officially married. We've been together a really long time but we finally got married.- Why finally?

0:02:51 > 0:02:55My daughter was really into the idea, so we said OK.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58So she could be a bridesmaid, you got married!

0:02:58 > 0:03:01No, that's the funny thing - she ended up not being into it at all.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04She just wanted the ice cream, which I think was her plan all along.

0:03:04 > 0:03:07- She'd heard about receptions. - Yeah, exactly.

0:03:07 > 0:03:11As a married lady, though - here you are, you know, in a whole heap of hotness.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- Yeah! I have a very understanding husband.- Yeah.

0:03:14 > 0:03:18- It's nice, he lets me be...the meat in this manwich, they are, so... - Yeah!

0:03:19 > 0:03:22Henry Cavill, are you the hottest man in the world right now?

0:03:22 > 0:03:26WOMEN CHEER

0:03:26 > 0:03:28Doesn't sound it!

0:03:28 > 0:03:31No, I can tell you - actually, you're the fourth. You're the fourth.

0:03:31 > 0:03:33LAUGHTER

0:03:33 > 0:03:36- That's good to know.- Ben, you were the hottest man in the world, weren't you?

0:03:36 > 0:03:40- I didn't know that.- Oh, you were. - Now I'm going to find out I'm 86th or something.

0:03:40 > 0:03:42It's worse than that. You're 99th.

0:03:42 > 0:03:48- There you go!- But you're hotter than Javier Bardem. Thank God. Yeah.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51I've never even broken the top ten so you guys should feel OK.

0:03:51 > 0:03:55Cos in this movie, Ben, you are in incredible shape in this film.

0:03:55 > 0:03:59So what was your standing start? Cos he obviously had been Superman already.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02Well, yeah, I saw him in the Superman movie before

0:04:02 > 0:04:04and I was kind of...pissed me off, because I was,

0:04:04 > 0:04:06"Great, now you're going to set this whole..."

0:04:06 > 0:04:08I was hoping he'd be kind of normal-looking, and then...

0:04:08 > 0:04:12he's the alien, I'm just a man, so I could kind of roll out of bed and...

0:04:12 > 0:04:18But, no. But you know, we worked out every day and, er, I hated every minute of it.

0:04:18 > 0:04:19Glad when it was over.

0:04:19 > 0:04:23But was there...? There must be... Because you can't help it, when you finally get

0:04:23 > 0:04:26on set together, you must be kind of like, "His arms aren't THAT big."

0:04:28 > 0:04:30That was when we slept together...

0:04:30 > 0:04:33LAUGHTER

0:04:33 > 0:04:35APPLAUSE

0:04:35 > 0:04:36Deleted scenes.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39I didn't stay over!

0:04:39 > 0:04:43Henry, that picture we were looking at at the top of the show there.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46What...? You posted it. I didn't go looking.

0:04:46 > 0:04:47YOU posted that picture.

0:04:47 > 0:04:51In fairness, if I looked like that, I'd be sitting with my top off right now.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53Now, you posted that on Facebook, didn't you?

0:04:53 > 0:04:55Er, yes, Facebook and Instagram.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59Yeah, somebody did. And, well, the comments - the comments were...

0:04:59 > 0:05:02That's actually from my Facebook page!

0:05:02 > 0:05:05I was going to do worse than that.

0:05:05 > 0:05:07I was going to do less than that!

0:05:07 > 0:05:10"Do not exceed this."

0:05:10 > 0:05:12The comments on Facebook, though.

0:05:12 > 0:05:15I love that people, like, bother to put these things.

0:05:15 > 0:05:18"I think I just wet my panties..."

0:05:18 > 0:05:21Then this next person, "I have the weirdest boner right now."

0:05:21 > 0:05:24LAUGHTER

0:05:24 > 0:05:26We're hoping that's a man.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28I wanted to know what was weird about it!

0:05:28 > 0:05:31I know! And then, this one, I just love this one.

0:05:31 > 0:05:35This is just... "Holy sweet little 7-pound baby Jesus."

0:05:35 > 0:05:39- What does that even mean? - Happy Easter? I don't know.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43It's very random.

0:05:43 > 0:05:45Ben, there is this kind of funny club now.

0:05:45 > 0:05:49There's a kind of elite group of people who have all worn the outfit.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51So did you reach out to any of them?

0:05:51 > 0:05:53You know, I didn't reach out to any of them.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55I have talked to many of them since.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57I had a really interesting encounter.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00I was buying my kids...one Tuesday afternoon,

0:06:00 > 0:06:02we went to a costume shop, a Halloween shop.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04There was nobody in the place.

0:06:04 > 0:06:06The woman proprietor didn't recognise me,

0:06:06 > 0:06:09or didn't care at all that I was in the shop.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12I was in there with my kids and I heard this voice say,

0:06:12 > 0:06:15- IN BRITISH ACCENT:- "Oi, is that you? Ben? Affleck? Is that you?"

0:06:15 > 0:06:17I looked around - that's my British accent.

0:06:17 > 0:06:21- Very good.- Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23APPLAUSE

0:06:23 > 0:06:26I looked around and I saw Christian Bale.

0:06:26 > 0:06:30And the first thing I thought was, "Christian Bale's British?

0:06:30 > 0:06:32"He's such a good actor!" I thought...

0:06:32 > 0:06:36And he was very friendly. He was buying...

0:06:36 > 0:06:39He was there with his kid buying Halloween costumes too.

0:06:39 > 0:06:42And apparently she didn't recognise him either.

0:06:42 > 0:06:43This is quite the store!

0:06:43 > 0:06:47It was...it was just a Los Angeles costume shop.

0:06:47 > 0:06:52And he was very generous and kind - wonderful guy, and he said,

0:06:52 > 0:06:54"Make sure they put a zipper in that suit.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57"I did three movies with no zipper in my outfit."

0:06:57 > 0:07:01So he gave me some very practical advice, and...

0:07:01 > 0:07:05- Did you take that advice? - I did take that advice and it proved quite useful.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07Yes.

0:07:07 > 0:07:11And he was very, very kind to me and very sweet and I appreciated it,

0:07:11 > 0:07:14cos it would've felt awful if I thought that he was going around, going,

0:07:14 > 0:07:17"Can you believe who they're putting in that Batman next?"

0:07:17 > 0:07:23Um, and I ended up running into Michael Keaton and I talked to Clooney briefly -

0:07:23 > 0:07:24whose advice was unrepeatable.

0:07:24 > 0:07:27- And...- What was his advice?

0:07:27 > 0:07:30Just a string of epithets.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33- That's George.- OK.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36- And now, Amy Adams, you're back as Lois Lane.- Yes.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38I don't mean to be rude, but on set,

0:07:38 > 0:07:41you do sound like you're very annoying.

0:07:41 > 0:07:42- Yes.- That's not rude at all.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45That's all right. I'm annoying off set, too.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47It's like... I'm used to it so that's OK.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50No, you sing a lot. That must irritate people.

0:07:50 > 0:07:51Henry?

0:07:51 > 0:07:53- Er... - No!

0:07:53 > 0:07:55I actually sing...

0:07:55 > 0:07:59I'm not looking for an audience. It's not as though I'm like, "Everybody stand still.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02"I've just worked on this number, so..." The world doesn't stop.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05It's more like to myself, which...somewhere, I'm just weird.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08- OK.- But...yeah.- It was in the trailer that you were singing.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11I do sing in the trailer. No, I sing...Zack, actually -

0:08:11 > 0:08:13our kids are about the same age,

0:08:13 > 0:08:16so I was stuck singing a lot of Disney songs.

0:08:16 > 0:08:19And he would make suggestions but they had a sign on set that

0:08:19 > 0:08:23says "Days since Let It Go was sung", and it was always on zero.

0:08:23 > 0:08:26I'm sorry, guys. My daughter was singing it on repeat at home.

0:08:26 > 0:08:31But do you sing on every...? Like, when you're in things like The Fighter or American Hustle...

0:08:31 > 0:08:35- I do.- Really? David O Russell is cool with you singing Let It Go on set?

0:08:35 > 0:08:37I sang Dream A Little Dream on that set

0:08:37 > 0:08:40and I was usually in a corner by myself, like, trying to calm down.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42I know, right?

0:08:42 > 0:08:46I'm not really improving. You guys aren't laughing now - you're just scared!

0:08:46 > 0:08:49Funny, like, "She really is the most annoying person."

0:08:49 > 0:08:52"Yeah, we're never going to be in a film with her."

0:08:52 > 0:08:55But actually, in the film, Amy - we see a lot of Amy Adams.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59Yeah. A little bit, yeah.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02- You're naked.- Well, in a tub, with milk salts or whatever.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06- Makes it cloudy.- I thought it was lovely.- Oh, thank you.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08I was surprised... It wasn't that cloudy.

0:09:08 > 0:09:10LAUGHTER

0:09:10 > 0:09:12It wasn't that cloudy.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17- Cos you're in the bath as well. - Yes.- Yeah.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19We're really selling tickets here.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21Can I just say, the tickets are flying out the door.

0:09:21 > 0:09:23I'm completely naked in the tub!

0:09:24 > 0:09:28And Wonder Woman's in the bath too!

0:09:28 > 0:09:31Sorry! No, they actually put you in very unflattering modesty garments,

0:09:31 > 0:09:35so there's really, it's... Yeah. There's, like, stick-on things and...

0:09:35 > 0:09:38Don't they float off, like plasters in the bath?

0:09:38 > 0:09:41- Yes!- Oh, they do!

0:09:41 > 0:09:43Yes, they do! I'm like, "Sorry, Henry!"

0:09:43 > 0:09:47"I've got something on my back. What is it, what is it?"

0:09:47 > 0:09:51They do float to the top when you're trying to do a scene and there's, like, a little Band-Aid.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53"Sorry. I promise that's off my boob."

0:09:53 > 0:09:56But then that doesn't sound much better either!

0:09:56 > 0:10:00Yeah, cos then you'd start looking around, like, what else could it be off? I don't know!

0:10:01 > 0:10:04Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice -

0:10:04 > 0:10:06it is out tonight.

0:10:06 > 0:10:07And we've got a clip.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10This is Batman v Superman, wouldn't you know it?

0:10:10 > 0:10:12- You're not in it, Amy.- That's cool.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15- You're very good in the film. - Thank you.- But just not in this bit.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17- That's all right. - LAUGHTER

0:10:17 > 0:10:19- Show the boys.- Here we go.

0:10:32 > 0:10:33HEAVY BREATHING

0:10:39 > 0:10:40Stay down!

0:10:40 > 0:10:43If I wanted it you'd be dead already.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02Oooh.

0:11:02 > 0:11:04CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:11:06 > 0:11:07Faster than a speeding bullet.

0:11:07 > 0:11:08- Yeah.- Yeah.

0:11:10 > 0:11:12Now, obviously, for you, Henry - you know, a young actor

0:11:12 > 0:11:14looking for that big break, Superman comes along,

0:11:14 > 0:11:16it's an amazing opportunity.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18But Ben Affleck - busy, busy, busy.

0:11:18 > 0:11:21The writing, the directing, the acting.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23And to take on something like Batman,

0:11:23 > 0:11:25it's quite a high-risk thing to do.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28- You're telling me! - So how did they talk you round?

0:11:28 > 0:11:31Well, it was an unusual choice, definitely.

0:11:31 > 0:11:34I had a number of different sort of opportunities,

0:11:34 > 0:11:36and for one thing, the risk was very appealing.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39It was a very compelling screenplay written by a guy named Chris Terrio,

0:11:39 > 0:11:42who wrote Argo, which was a movie that I directed.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45And I really liked what Henry had done

0:11:45 > 0:11:47and Amy had done in Man Of Steel.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50And I really liked the version of the Batman that they were doing,

0:11:50 > 0:11:54which was... You know, Zack came to me and said,

0:11:54 > 0:11:56"I want you to do this Batman,"

0:11:56 > 0:11:58and I said, "I don't think I'm really right for this.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01"You know, the young guy who's avenging his parents' death

0:12:01 > 0:12:03"and goes and put on a cowl and fights super villains.

0:12:03 > 0:12:07"Maybe at one time..." But he said, "No, no, no, that's not it.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09"He's completely broken down.

0:12:09 > 0:12:11"He's older. He's falling apart.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13"He's on the verge of moral bankruptcy.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15"You're perfect for it!"

0:12:15 > 0:12:17LAUGHTER

0:12:17 > 0:12:18APPLAUSE

0:12:20 > 0:12:22You talked about the risk, the high risk.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25Did the studio kind of manage your expectations about that?

0:12:25 > 0:12:27They did, actually. They said, "Look, we want you to know

0:12:27 > 0:12:30"that these announcements now, the fans are really engaged

0:12:30 > 0:12:34"and they feel a great sense of proprietorship over these choices."

0:12:34 > 0:12:36And they showed me, actually, some of the reactions

0:12:36 > 0:12:40to when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker,

0:12:40 > 0:12:44who of course did a magnificent job, and the reaction -

0:12:44 > 0:12:46I was shocked at this internet... You know, this bile.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48And they said, "This just happens.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51"People, if it's not who they expect or who they want,

0:12:51 > 0:12:53"they can be, you know, unpleasant."

0:12:53 > 0:12:56And I said, "No, that won't... Not with me."

0:12:56 > 0:12:58- LAUGHTER - "It's going to be fine."

0:12:58 > 0:13:00And the first time after the announcement went out,

0:13:00 > 0:13:03I looked on the internet, and I just saw one person

0:13:03 > 0:13:06and it just said, "Nooooooo!"

0:13:06 > 0:13:08LAUGHTER

0:13:08 > 0:13:09APPLAUSE

0:13:11 > 0:13:13And I would have thought, Amy, because people are very -

0:13:13 > 0:13:16- you know, they really care about these things...- Sure.

0:13:16 > 0:13:20..did you have to fight for Lois Lane to be a redhead?

0:13:20 > 0:13:22No, I was actually prepared to dye my hair.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24I thought, "For sure, they're going to colour my hair."

0:13:24 > 0:13:27But Zack liked the idea that she was just who she was.

0:13:27 > 0:13:28And I was a little concerned

0:13:28 > 0:13:30cos I thought people would have a hard time accepting it,

0:13:30 > 0:13:33and I'm sure I did not read the comments

0:13:33 > 0:13:34because don't want to know.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37- "Noooooo!"- "Nooo!" I'm sure there was plenty of that.

0:13:37 > 0:13:38"Gingeeeeeer!"

0:13:38 > 0:13:40I know! Well, it's so funny - in the States,

0:13:40 > 0:13:42if you have red hair you're, like, sassy and fiery

0:13:42 > 0:13:45and ready to go, and here it's like, "You're a ginger."

0:13:45 > 0:13:47LAUGHTER

0:13:47 > 0:13:49I'll stay over there, OK.

0:13:49 > 0:13:52And now, the voice.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55- Christian Bale - he did it himself. - Yes, he did.

0:13:55 > 0:13:57But this time it's a different version.

0:13:57 > 0:13:59Well, like I say, Christian's a great actor.

0:13:59 > 0:14:03For me, I required electronic manipulation of the voice to do it.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05We kind of thought -

0:14:05 > 0:14:08we posited that he was a famous billionaire,

0:14:08 > 0:14:10and so the people would recognise his real voice

0:14:10 > 0:14:12and it would give away his identity,

0:14:12 > 0:14:16so within the cowl is an electronic device

0:14:16 > 0:14:19that changes Batman's voice for him so that he's not recognised.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22So it digitally manipulates the voice. So I performed the voice

0:14:22 > 0:14:26and then Zack was able to change it with a computer later on.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28So I just played the part and then, you know,

0:14:28 > 0:14:31when I watched the movie, the voice is different. It's electronic.

0:14:31 > 0:14:33Cos we've got a mic, and I think this is set up...

0:14:33 > 0:14:35IN BATMAN'S VOICE: Is this set up?

0:14:35 > 0:14:37Ooh, it is! LAUGHTER

0:14:37 > 0:14:39Isn't that amazing that it can do that?

0:14:39 > 0:14:41BATMAN'S VOICE: Isn't it amazing?

0:14:41 > 0:14:45Do you do the thing when you know that it's going to do it,

0:14:45 > 0:14:47but you still do it too?

0:14:47 > 0:14:49- Yeah.- Like, you do it on top of the thing.- You do.

0:14:49 > 0:14:53- Can you give us some, like, lines? - Sure, sure, sure.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55- IN BATMAN'S VOICE: - I'd like a large pizza.

0:14:55 > 0:14:57LAUGHTER

0:14:57 > 0:14:58Pepperoni.

0:15:00 > 0:15:02Two Pepsis.

0:15:02 > 0:15:03LAUGHTER

0:15:03 > 0:15:06Oh, you try a bit, Amy Adams. Let's see it with a girl's voice.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08I actually want to sound like Batman.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11Do you bleed?

0:15:11 > 0:15:13LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:15:13 > 0:15:14That's so cool!

0:15:15 > 0:15:16Deep!

0:15:16 > 0:15:19I'm glad you didn't do that before me. You'd have taken my job.

0:15:19 > 0:15:23That was really good. Have a go, Henry. Why not?

0:15:23 > 0:15:25What would Superman say?

0:15:25 > 0:15:26I'm Batman.

0:15:26 > 0:15:28LAUGHTER

0:15:28 > 0:15:30And I'm secretly in love with Superman.

0:15:30 > 0:15:32LAUGHTER

0:15:32 > 0:15:35OK, let's stop. Let's stop, let's stop.

0:15:36 > 0:15:40There's been a lot - I think more than normal this time round -

0:15:40 > 0:15:44a lot's been made about Superman's disguise

0:15:44 > 0:15:46as Clark Kent.

0:15:46 > 0:15:47Yeah.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50LAUGHTER

0:15:50 > 0:15:52And how really light it is.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54It's a very light disguise.

0:15:54 > 0:15:56- Seemingly so, yeah.- Really.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59Like, I've got the glasses, so if you just pop them on

0:15:59 > 0:16:01so we can see the difference that the glasses make.

0:16:01 > 0:16:04- Just pass them down. - Thank you.- Here we go.

0:16:05 > 0:16:06Prepare to be amazed.

0:16:06 > 0:16:08LAUGHTER

0:16:09 > 0:16:10GASPS

0:16:10 > 0:16:12Where's Henry gone?!

0:16:12 > 0:16:14LAUGHTER

0:16:14 > 0:16:16That's really creepy. Crazy.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20It's even creepier when you say it in that voice.

0:16:20 > 0:16:22LAUGHTER

0:16:22 > 0:16:23Because it is one of those things -

0:16:23 > 0:16:26it's amazing that they haven't come up

0:16:26 > 0:16:28with some sort of back story or...

0:16:28 > 0:16:29You kind of think in 2016,

0:16:29 > 0:16:32they wouldn't just put you in some glasses and say,

0:16:32 > 0:16:34"And no-one will know who you are."

0:16:34 > 0:16:35LAUGHTER

0:16:35 > 0:16:39- But actually, didn't you do an experiment?- I did indeed, yeah.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42- To be a counterpoint to what you're talking about.- Yep.

0:16:42 > 0:16:43To prove you wrong, in fact.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46A friend of mine and I were discussing the idea

0:16:46 > 0:16:48of these glasses not being good enough disguise,

0:16:48 > 0:16:52and we decided to go to Times Square to test the theory.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56I wore a Superman T-shirt and no glasses

0:16:56 > 0:17:00and stood underneath the giant wraparound Batman v Superman posters

0:17:00 > 0:17:02- in Times Square. - I think we've got a picture.

0:17:02 > 0:17:04- Oh, there you are. - There you go, yeah.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06And took a bunch of other photos

0:17:06 > 0:17:08and some video as well.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10And got stopped twice.

0:17:10 > 0:17:12Once by someone exiting the subway

0:17:12 > 0:17:15asking for directions to Central Station.

0:17:15 > 0:17:16LAUGHTER

0:17:16 > 0:17:18And the other time was in a coffee shop where someone said,

0:17:18 > 0:17:20"Could you please stop taking photos?"

0:17:20 > 0:17:22LAUGHTER

0:17:22 > 0:17:25- And that was it.- That is bizarre. - Yeah.- Yeah.

0:17:25 > 0:17:26It's apparently very easy to do.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29Either that or I have an incredibly boring face.

0:17:29 > 0:17:31You just look really comfortable in those glasses.

0:17:31 > 0:17:33- And smart.- Oh! For once.

0:17:33 > 0:17:35LAUGHTER

0:17:35 > 0:17:38And you are going to be busy with Superman for quite a while now,

0:17:38 > 0:17:40cos the Justice League films, they're coming up.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43But I am contractually obliged, I must ask you -

0:17:43 > 0:17:46- because James Bond, the gig seems to be up.- Right.

0:17:46 > 0:17:50- Last time, you came second, didn't you?- Yeah.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52- You were the other choice.- Yeah.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55- The first loser. - Yeah, the first loser.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58The person who was closest to not being him.

0:17:58 > 0:17:59LAUGHTER

0:17:59 > 0:18:02So this time round, do you think? What? What's the story?

0:18:02 > 0:18:05Er, do I think? I don't know. It all depends.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07I mean, I obviously am very busy with the Superman stuff.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09If there were any windows and if they wanted me

0:18:09 > 0:18:12to do that kind of role, it would be great. I'd love to do it.

0:18:12 > 0:18:15It depends on what everyone here thinks. I mean, if you guys think...

0:18:15 > 0:18:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:18:18 > 0:18:19Shameless!

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- Shameless.- So I guess I should do it.- Yeah, yeah.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25I think walking the streets begging is a bad look.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28You're better than that, Henry, you're better than that!

0:18:28 > 0:18:30- No, I am not. - LAUGHTER

0:18:30 > 0:18:34I think it seems a bit greedy to be Superman AND James Bond.

0:18:34 > 0:18:35Greedy or awesome?

0:18:35 > 0:18:37LAUGHTER

0:18:37 > 0:18:39Awesome for you. Yes, true.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42The odd thing is, I suppose, there's an awful lot of people in America

0:18:42 > 0:18:43who don't know you are British.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45- Yes.- Because I have to say, your American accent is...

0:18:45 > 0:18:47I didn't even know Christian Bale was British!

0:18:47 > 0:18:49LAUGHTER

0:18:49 > 0:18:51- But his accent is good, isn't it? - Very good.

0:18:51 > 0:18:54It's not just British people who think it's good.

0:18:54 > 0:18:56There are some Brits who come to...

0:18:56 > 0:18:58The Brits have completely taken over America

0:18:58 > 0:19:00in terms of film and television.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03You can't turn on the TV without - it's all British people

0:19:03 > 0:19:05on our television sets.

0:19:05 > 0:19:07Not that there's anything wrong with that.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10They've taken over, and some of them -

0:19:10 > 0:19:11I'm not going to name any names,

0:19:11 > 0:19:13not that there's anything wrong with it -

0:19:13 > 0:19:15do accents that sort of sound like this:

0:19:15 > 0:19:17- EXAGGERATED AMERICAN ACCENT: - "Hello, there.

0:19:17 > 0:19:19"We're pronouncing our Rs. Can't you tell?"

0:19:19 > 0:19:21And then there are those like Henry

0:19:21 > 0:19:24and Christian and others whose accents are impeccable,

0:19:24 > 0:19:27and to whom you must tip your hat. Wouldn't you say?

0:19:27 > 0:19:31- Yes, I would agree.- I was wondering if he was going to answer the question directly then or not,

0:19:31 > 0:19:32or just skirt over the fact, be like,

0:19:32 > 0:19:35"Yeah, yeah, lots of people have good American accents."

0:19:35 > 0:19:37"Henry does, right?"

0:19:37 > 0:19:40- "Well, I think, American TV, British actors, and..."- "Some people do!"

0:19:40 > 0:19:43- "Yeah, a lot do. Christian, in particular, amazing." - LAUGHTER

0:19:43 > 0:19:46Yours is good. It's particularly Midwestern, which is specific.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49- You honed in on Kansas. - Was the idea.- Of course, yes.

0:19:49 > 0:19:51- Goodness, I was doing my job. - LAUGHTER

0:19:51 > 0:19:54You can take your glasses off now, if you want to.

0:19:54 > 0:19:55- Or are you comfortable in them? - Yeah.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58- GRAHAM GASPS Henry's back!- Oh, my God!

0:19:58 > 0:19:59Surprise.

0:19:59 > 0:20:00LAUGHTER

0:20:00 > 0:20:04Is this pathetic? He does look quite different without them now.

0:20:04 > 0:20:05I've sort of been convinced.

0:20:05 > 0:20:08And, Amy, your English accent, though,

0:20:08 > 0:20:10- was very good in American Hustle. - Thank you. Thank you.

0:20:10 > 0:20:12- Yeah.- It was tricky. - WOLF WHISTLE

0:20:12 > 0:20:14But people must have been quite distracted

0:20:14 > 0:20:16by your outfits in American Hustle.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18- Yep. - LAUGHTER

0:20:18 > 0:20:20It's not the outfits they're distracted by.

0:20:20 > 0:20:22LAUGHTER

0:20:22 > 0:20:24Did the other actors find that distracting?

0:20:24 > 0:20:27Um, everyone else was really polite about it.

0:20:27 > 0:20:30Jennifer was the only one who really commented,

0:20:30 > 0:20:32like, "Can you put them away? God, do I have to see them again?"

0:20:32 > 0:20:35Cos I would slouch in the blue dress when we had the scene,

0:20:35 > 0:20:37and she's like, "Nipple. Nipple."

0:20:37 > 0:20:38LAUGHTER

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Like, really.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43And I eventually drew a face on it

0:20:43 > 0:20:46so it would at least look friendly to her.

0:20:46 > 0:20:47LAUGHTER

0:20:48 > 0:20:51And you, when you're doing an accent, you stay in it?

0:20:51 > 0:20:52Are you one of those actors?

0:20:52 > 0:20:55I don't mean to all the time, but, yeah, I do stay in it.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58I was doing Big Eyes - I don't know if you guys have seen it -

0:20:58 > 0:21:01I play a really southern woman with this great hairdo,

0:21:01 > 0:21:05- which is kind of big. - I love that film. It's great. - And it was the bigger wig than this.

0:21:05 > 0:21:08My husband had a kidney stone, but it collapsed at home.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10So I leave the set, I'm running, in the ambulance,

0:21:10 > 0:21:13I get to the hospital. All this, I'm going through this whole thing,

0:21:13 > 0:21:15and I realise I still have the wig on

0:21:15 > 0:21:18and I'm asking all these medical questions in a southern accent.

0:21:18 > 0:21:19I was like...

0:21:19 > 0:21:22- IN A SOUTHERN ACCENT: - "Is he going to be all right, or are we...?"

0:21:22 > 0:21:23I'm still in character.

0:21:23 > 0:21:26Like, "I'm not sure what a kidney stone is."

0:21:26 > 0:21:30- LAUGHTER - I caught myself in the mirror when I was washing my hands, and I thought,

0:21:30 > 0:21:31"Oh, I am really just batshit crazy."

0:21:33 > 0:21:34So I started singing.

0:21:34 > 0:21:36LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:21:38 > 0:21:39That'd be genius.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41And while we're talking about accents,

0:21:41 > 0:21:44we have to mention Ben Affleck in Shakespeare In Love.

0:21:44 > 0:21:47- Cos that was a really good English accent.- Oh, thank you very much.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50No, cos it was hard, cos you were just surrounded by British people.

0:21:50 > 0:21:53I was the only person who hadn't been knighted in the film.

0:21:53 > 0:21:54LAUGHTER

0:21:54 > 0:21:57So, yeah. And Gwyneth, who's basically British -

0:21:57 > 0:21:59let's face it, right? She's got a pass.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01And so, yeah, I was, uh...

0:22:01 > 0:22:05I felt very self-conscious in the movie.

0:22:05 > 0:22:07In fact, I studied...

0:22:07 > 0:22:10I didn't know what to... I studied the British accent by -

0:22:10 > 0:22:13I went to the store, like, Barnes & Noble,

0:22:13 > 0:22:15and just bought someone reading sonnets.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18- EXAGGERATED ENGLISH ACCENT:- And it was a very British-sounding fellow.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21Very, you know, "Trouble heaven with your bootless cries."

0:22:21 > 0:22:24And I went home and read them out loud

0:22:24 > 0:22:26over and over and over again.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29And then I went to the read-through for the movie, and I swear to God,

0:22:29 > 0:22:33the fucking guy who was reading the sonnets

0:22:33 > 0:22:35was next to me at the read-through!

0:22:35 > 0:22:37LAUGHTER

0:22:37 > 0:22:40APPLAUSE

0:22:41 > 0:22:44And I said, like, you know,

0:22:44 > 0:22:47"I'm a little embarrassed. This is so amazing.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50"I've been studying you and your voice for months." And he said,

0:22:50 > 0:22:52- ENGLISH ACCENT: - "Oh, dear boy."

0:22:52 > 0:22:53LAUGHTER

0:22:53 > 0:22:55"It's going to be all right."

0:22:55 > 0:22:58A couple of guys from the RSC looked at me and were like,

0:22:58 > 0:23:01"You know that's a bit more than a pleasant touch of the knee."

0:23:01 > 0:23:04"Oh, OK. Well, that's fine."

0:23:04 > 0:23:05I mean, very excited.

0:23:05 > 0:23:08But I had a great time on that movie. In fact...

0:23:08 > 0:23:10LAUGHTER

0:23:10 > 0:23:13- I learned the accent very well. - Very well.

0:23:13 > 0:23:15I got to wear a codpiece,

0:23:15 > 0:23:18which was my only experience wearing one of them.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20They had to film me from the waist up

0:23:20 > 0:23:21because they thought it would give us an X.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24- Really?- Yes, I had a giant codpiece built into my costume.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27- Oh, I see.- Yeah.- Oh, right, you weren't just going,

0:23:27 > 0:23:29"But, yeah, it was so big!"

0:23:29 > 0:23:30LAUGHTER

0:23:30 > 0:23:32"They can't screen this film."

0:23:34 > 0:23:36Oh, I see, it was a built... Why was it so big?

0:23:36 > 0:23:38I don't know. The costumers.

0:23:38 > 0:23:40I don't know, my friend, the reader, you know?

0:23:40 > 0:23:42LAUGHTER

0:23:42 > 0:23:45- "Make it bigger."- It was just the way they saw me, I guess. Yeah.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48Now, Ben, when Matt Damon... He's been here,

0:23:48 > 0:23:52and he talked about the night you won the Oscar for Good Will Hunting.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54And he has a particular take on it.

0:23:54 > 0:23:55WHOOPS AND CHEERS

0:23:55 > 0:23:57APPLAUSE

0:23:58 > 0:24:01I don't look very happy in that particular photograph.

0:24:01 > 0:24:02I assure you I was.

0:24:02 > 0:24:04- He looks thrilled.- Matt looks drunk.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06LAUGHTER

0:24:06 > 0:24:09Looking back, do you rejoice that you had that amazing success

0:24:09 > 0:24:13so early on, or does a bit of you kind of...

0:24:13 > 0:24:16not regret it, but sort of, I don't know, think it was a bit of a curse?

0:24:16 > 0:24:18I mean, I don't think it was a curse,

0:24:18 > 0:24:21but I couldn't really appreciate it. It was very hallucinatory.

0:24:21 > 0:24:25I don't know if you've ever been in a traffic accident, but there's that moment where you go,

0:24:25 > 0:24:27"Oh, my God, I'm going to crash into this wall over here."

0:24:27 > 0:24:30Everything slows down and you're spinning around. That was how it kind of felt.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33They said our names, and I looked at Matt and was like, "Should we get up?"

0:24:33 > 0:24:35And we get up, and there's...

0:24:35 > 0:24:38You know, people are clapping, and there was...

0:24:38 > 0:24:41Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau presented it to us.

0:24:41 > 0:24:43And you know, Billy Crystal was hosting.

0:24:43 > 0:24:45And he was going, "Matt and Ben! Ben and Matt!"

0:24:45 > 0:24:46LAUGHTER

0:24:46 > 0:24:48And you know, I was 24 years old.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51I mean, I barely knew anything at all.

0:24:51 > 0:24:53And it was, you know...

0:24:53 > 0:24:56I mean, I think it was, in some ways,

0:24:56 > 0:24:58trouble to get that much attention that young,

0:24:58 > 0:25:01and I really didn't have any perspective on it at all.

0:25:01 > 0:25:04It was a wonderful honour, but it was...

0:25:04 > 0:25:07You know, I certainly appreciated later on much more what it meant.

0:25:07 > 0:25:09And was there a kind of thing

0:25:09 > 0:25:11where people thought you were that character?

0:25:11 > 0:25:14Yeah, I think people thought that Matt was the math genius

0:25:14 > 0:25:17and I was his dim-witted friend he dragged along from home.

0:25:17 > 0:25:18You know what I mean? It was like,

0:25:18 > 0:25:21"Give him an Oscar, too! We're very kind!"

0:25:21 > 0:25:24- LAUGHTER - And that...

0:25:24 > 0:25:25That stayed with me for a while.

0:25:25 > 0:25:28"You're all right, too. You can go ahead."

0:25:28 > 0:25:31So being back at the Oscar podium for Argo,

0:25:31 > 0:25:34that must have been such a kind of... What a satisfying moment.

0:25:34 > 0:25:37Hopefully no-one thought I was a dim-witted friend, anyway.

0:25:37 > 0:25:40Yeah, no, that was. It was much more satisfying.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42And I had been through so much stuff,

0:25:42 > 0:25:44so many ups and downs

0:25:44 > 0:25:47and humiliations and highs and lows.

0:25:47 > 0:25:51And you know, at that point I had had three children

0:25:51 > 0:25:52and I had built a whole life,

0:25:52 > 0:25:55and it felt like something that was much more...

0:25:55 > 0:25:57I appreciated it, and I really felt like...

0:25:57 > 0:25:59I also knew what it meant and what it didn't mean,

0:25:59 > 0:26:03you know what I mean? And what was important about it and what wasn't.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05And it was a really nice night and I got to share it

0:26:05 > 0:26:06with people I really loved,

0:26:06 > 0:26:09and it was probably a much more healthy experience.

0:26:09 > 0:26:11And that thing of success early on -

0:26:11 > 0:26:13cos you know, young actors,

0:26:13 > 0:26:16they think they've got their big break.

0:26:16 > 0:26:18Cos Amy - that's such a weird story,

0:26:18 > 0:26:20- the Catch Me If You Can story.- Yeah.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23So you get cast by Steven Spielberg opposite Leonardo DiCaprio.

0:26:23 > 0:26:24And you must have thought,

0:26:24 > 0:26:27"This is it. It's all taking off now."

0:26:27 > 0:26:28Yeah, I thought... Yeah.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30- Didn't. - LAUGHTER

0:26:30 > 0:26:33How many years was it after that that you didn't work?

0:26:33 > 0:26:35I didn't work for a full year after that,

0:26:35 > 0:26:38and then sort of started taking...

0:26:38 > 0:26:42getting roles again. And then, yeah, I just...

0:26:42 > 0:26:43I don't know, I think it got too heady.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46And again, sometimes when things happen at the wrong time,

0:26:46 > 0:26:48it gets heady, and then I just choked.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51Like, every audition, I just kind of was really bad.

0:26:51 > 0:26:53So I didn't... I can't blame anybody else,

0:26:53 > 0:26:56but it was overwhelming, the thought of...

0:26:56 > 0:26:59You know, the thought of it was overwhelming.

0:26:59 > 0:27:02- But then it worked out later on. - Wow. Isn't that...?- Yeah.

0:27:02 > 0:27:04It's weird that you needed to go through that

0:27:04 > 0:27:05to get to where you are now.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08I think so. It's kind of, like, you had to let go.

0:27:08 > 0:27:10You know, it's that whole saying of like, you know,

0:27:10 > 0:27:11Let It Go.

0:27:11 > 0:27:12LAUGHTER

0:27:12 > 0:27:15- Wait a second!- Please, God, no! No!

0:27:15 > 0:27:18Do you see how it happens? How easy it happens?

0:27:18 > 0:27:20And then what is a girl to do, you know?

0:27:20 > 0:27:22LAUGHTER

0:27:22 > 0:27:23Da-na-na-da-da...

0:27:23 > 0:27:25- No, I won't.- Oh, no, God.

0:27:25 > 0:27:28- It'll cost us too much money! - Oh, sorry.

0:27:28 > 0:27:30Henry, you are...

0:27:30 > 0:27:32Like, there must be so many actors watching this show

0:27:32 > 0:27:34and watching this couch,

0:27:34 > 0:27:37and, like, Hollywood really messed with your head.

0:27:37 > 0:27:42I mean, they nearly gave you the big gig so many times.

0:27:42 > 0:27:44Yeah. Yeah, there was...

0:27:44 > 0:27:47- I mean, Superman was one of them. - Oh, the first time round, yeah.

0:27:47 > 0:27:48Yeah. Bond was another one.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50And now I want both.

0:27:50 > 0:27:52LAUGHTER

0:27:52 > 0:27:54"I'll show them!"

0:27:55 > 0:27:57Take that, Hollywood!

0:27:57 > 0:28:00Yeah, essentially I got close to a bunch of stuff

0:28:00 > 0:28:02and didn't get it.

0:28:02 > 0:28:05But it's funny that people think that's a bad thing.

0:28:05 > 0:28:08Where in Hollywood, everyone's auditioning -

0:28:08 > 0:28:11or in the acting industry, everyone's trying to get a role,

0:28:11 > 0:28:13and they're not necessarily getting them.

0:28:13 > 0:28:17And so to get an opportunity to be in the limelight

0:28:17 > 0:28:18by missing out on the big roles

0:28:18 > 0:28:21is actually a good thing as opposed to a bad thing.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24And I count my lucky stars for each one of those.

0:28:24 > 0:28:26OK. You're turning it into a positive.

0:28:26 > 0:28:28It still sounds quite shit, to just lose jobs.

0:28:28 > 0:28:32LAUGHTER Just like, "No, didn't get it again.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35"But it's great for my profile. I'm the guy who never works!"

0:28:35 > 0:28:37LAUGHTER

0:28:37 > 0:28:39Cos wasn't Twilight written for you?

0:28:39 > 0:28:40Oh. Well, hey, I don't know...

0:28:40 > 0:28:42I wouldn't go that far!

0:28:43 > 0:28:44Or you can.

0:28:44 > 0:28:45LAUGHTER

0:28:45 > 0:28:47I think the writer of the books,

0:28:47 > 0:28:49when the movie came around,

0:28:49 > 0:28:52I think I was her first choice. I think. That's the rumour I heard.

0:28:52 > 0:28:55And she wanted me to play the role,

0:28:55 > 0:28:58but it wasn't up to her.

0:28:58 > 0:29:01And instead, you know, a very talented actor played it instead.

0:29:01 > 0:29:02Wow.

0:29:02 > 0:29:04LAUGHTER

0:29:04 > 0:29:06Who will remain nameless!

0:29:07 > 0:29:09Not that he's angry.

0:29:09 > 0:29:10LAUGHTER

0:29:10 > 0:29:12Wealthy and famous but nameless.

0:29:14 > 0:29:15Ooh, in Twilight.

0:29:15 > 0:29:18All the Twilights, he's in them.

0:29:18 > 0:29:19I'll be in the remake.

0:29:19 > 0:29:21LAUGHTER

0:29:21 > 0:29:23And very quickly, Batman v Superman -

0:29:23 > 0:29:26of course the world is very excited to see these films,

0:29:26 > 0:29:30but, Ben, it sounds like your son is very excited.

0:29:30 > 0:29:32Cos how cool - his dad is Batman.

0:29:32 > 0:29:35- How old is he? Four?- Yes, he's four. He's four years old.

0:29:35 > 0:29:37So does he kind of think you are?

0:29:37 > 0:29:40He actually - not even kind of, he believes that I am Batman.

0:29:40 > 0:29:42I have kind of set a trap for myself,

0:29:42 > 0:29:45because I showed him some of the clips and the stuff

0:29:45 > 0:29:48and I told him, "Yeah, I'm Batman." And so now he thinks, like,

0:29:48 > 0:29:50his dad is Batman.

0:29:50 > 0:29:52Truly. And now when I go out of the house,

0:29:52 > 0:29:54he says, "Are you going to the Batcave?"

0:29:54 > 0:29:58And I have to tell him, "Yeah, going to the Batcave."

0:29:58 > 0:30:01I'm sure that it's going to come back to haunt me

0:30:01 > 0:30:02when he's in therapy.

0:30:02 > 0:30:04Going, "He lied to me!"

0:30:04 > 0:30:05LAUGHTER

0:30:05 > 0:30:07"Batman!"

0:30:07 > 0:30:09But, hey, it's...

0:30:09 > 0:30:11What's the thing with the UPS guy?

0:30:11 > 0:30:14It's not the UPS - it's the FedEx guy.

0:30:14 > 0:30:15I don't know if in this country

0:30:15 > 0:30:18Federal Express has the same colour combination -

0:30:18 > 0:30:21- there's a sort of purplish tint to the uniform.- Oh, yeah, yeah.

0:30:21 > 0:30:23But in the United States they have this purple colour,

0:30:23 > 0:30:26and so he thinks - my son thinks the FedEx guy is the Joker.

0:30:26 > 0:30:27LAUGHTER

0:30:27 > 0:30:30And so every time he comes to deliver a screenplay,

0:30:30 > 0:30:33my son tells me, like, "Dad, Joker's outside!"

0:30:33 > 0:30:36And then he wants me to go fight him.

0:30:36 > 0:30:38So I have to go through this whole ritual where I go out,

0:30:38 > 0:30:41I give the guy 20 to do, like,

0:30:41 > 0:30:44a pantomime kung fu Adam West fight with me

0:30:44 > 0:30:48so my son will still believe I'm Batman and I can beat up the Joker.

0:30:48 > 0:30:51I think the guys draw lots to not have to deliver scripts to me.

0:30:51 > 0:30:52LAUGHTER

0:30:52 > 0:30:55But didn't you give him the best birthday party, though?

0:30:55 > 0:30:57I did. He wanted to have a superhero party,

0:30:57 > 0:31:00and that's usually where, you know, you pay some guys

0:31:00 > 0:31:02who dress up on Hollywood Boulevard as various superheroes,

0:31:02 > 0:31:04and they come and do a pantomime thing.

0:31:04 > 0:31:06And I said, "Sure, no problem."

0:31:06 > 0:31:08And he said, "Dad, I want you to be real Batman."

0:31:10 > 0:31:13So I said, "OK, I'll be real Batman."

0:31:13 > 0:31:14And I called the studio and asked them

0:31:14 > 0:31:16if they would give me the real costume,

0:31:16 > 0:31:19and they sent costumers over, and I...

0:31:19 > 0:31:22And it was ten in the morning. You know, it was really hot.

0:31:22 > 0:31:25And I put the outfit on, it was broad daylight.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27You know, Batman's sexy at night.

0:31:27 > 0:31:29LAUGHTER

0:31:29 > 0:31:31He's not that cool at ten in the morning

0:31:31 > 0:31:33when you're sweaty and hot.

0:31:33 > 0:31:36I was prepared for it thinking it was a lot of little kids.

0:31:36 > 0:31:39But then I realised they all brought their parents.

0:31:39 > 0:31:42So it's sort of like being on this show in broad daylight

0:31:42 > 0:31:45in my Batman outfit with my scary voice.

0:31:45 > 0:31:47And I came trundling out there.

0:31:47 > 0:31:50I walked out, saw the look on all these adults' faces,

0:31:50 > 0:31:53kind of going, "Wow..."

0:31:54 > 0:31:55"Batman!"

0:31:55 > 0:31:58LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:31:58 > 0:32:02- IN BATMAN'S VOICE: - "Leave me alone. It's important to my son."

0:32:03 > 0:32:06Right, it is time for music. Now, over the last three decades,

0:32:06 > 0:32:10this group have become the most successful British duo of all time.

0:32:10 > 0:32:12Here performing The Pop Kids,

0:32:12 > 0:32:14please welcome Pet Shop Boys!

0:32:14 > 0:32:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:32:33 > 0:32:35# Remember those days

0:32:35 > 0:32:37# The early '90s

0:32:37 > 0:32:39# We both applied for places

0:32:39 > 0:32:41# At the same university

0:32:41 > 0:32:43# Ended up in London

0:32:43 > 0:32:45# Where we needed to be

0:32:45 > 0:32:46# To follow our obsession

0:32:46 > 0:32:48# With the music scene

0:32:48 > 0:32:50# Wherever we went

0:32:50 > 0:32:52# Whatever we did

0:32:52 > 0:32:55# We knew the songs

0:32:55 > 0:32:58# They called us the Pop Kids

0:32:59 > 0:33:01# Cos we loved the pop hits

0:33:03 > 0:33:05# And quoted the best bits

0:33:06 > 0:33:09# So we were the Pop Kids

0:33:10 > 0:33:12# I loved you

0:33:18 > 0:33:19# I loved you

0:33:21 > 0:33:24# They called us the Pop Kids

0:33:27 > 0:33:28# I studied history

0:33:28 > 0:33:30# While you did biology

0:33:30 > 0:33:32# To you the human body

0:33:32 > 0:33:34# Didn't hold any mystery

0:33:34 > 0:33:38# We were young but imagined we were so sophisticated

0:33:38 > 0:33:40# Telling everyone we knew

0:33:40 > 0:33:42# That rock was overrated

0:33:42 > 0:33:43# We stayed out till late

0:33:43 > 0:33:45# Five nights a week

0:33:45 > 0:33:47# And felt so chic

0:33:48 > 0:33:51# They called us the Pop Kids

0:33:52 > 0:33:55# Cos we loved the pop hits

0:33:56 > 0:33:58# And quoted the best bits

0:34:00 > 0:34:02# So we were the Pop Kids

0:34:03 > 0:34:05# I loved you

0:34:11 > 0:34:12# I loved you

0:34:15 > 0:34:18# They called us the Pop Kids

0:34:26 > 0:34:27# It was a wet Wednesday night

0:34:27 > 0:34:30# We worried that no-one would be going out

0:34:30 > 0:34:31# How wrong we were

0:34:31 > 0:34:33# When we turned the corner there was already a queue

0:34:33 > 0:34:35# Stretching down the street

0:34:35 > 0:34:37# We swept straight in and you said

0:34:39 > 0:34:42# Ooh, I like it here

0:34:43 > 0:34:46# Ooh, I love it

0:34:47 > 0:34:50# Ooh, I like it here

0:34:51 > 0:34:55# Ooh, I am never going home

0:35:01 > 0:35:02# I loved you

0:35:08 > 0:35:11# They called us the Pop Kids

0:35:12 > 0:35:15# Cos we loved the pop hits

0:35:16 > 0:35:19# And quoted the best bits

0:35:20 > 0:35:22# So we were the Pop Kids

0:35:23 > 0:35:25# I loved you. #

0:35:25 > 0:35:28CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:35:28 > 0:35:31Pet Shop Boys, everybody!

0:35:31 > 0:35:33Come and join me, do.

0:35:35 > 0:35:37Hello. Beautiful job.

0:35:38 > 0:35:40Nice to see you. Congratulations.

0:35:41 > 0:35:42That's Neil, Henry,

0:35:42 > 0:35:45Amy, Ben, Neil, Chris...

0:35:46 > 0:35:49There you go. Hi, hi, hi.

0:35:49 > 0:35:51Sitty down, sitty down.

0:35:51 > 0:35:53Does the cap stay on?

0:35:53 > 0:35:55- The cap?- The lights, I mean.

0:35:55 > 0:35:57Oh, no, I can switch them off. Do you want them off?

0:35:57 > 0:36:00Well, it's a bit blinding. I feel like I'm in traffic!

0:36:00 > 0:36:01LAUGHTER

0:36:01 > 0:36:04I can flash.

0:36:04 > 0:36:05Oh, look at that!

0:36:07 > 0:36:08It's all very hi-tech.

0:36:08 > 0:36:11Is it the feeling you get before a road accident?

0:36:11 > 0:36:13- Do you want them off? - No, no. It's up to you.

0:36:13 > 0:36:16- I don't mind flashing. - Flashing is actually more annoying.

0:36:16 > 0:36:17Leave them on or off.

0:36:17 > 0:36:20- Where are we? Oh, there we go. - There you go.

0:36:20 > 0:36:23So that is off the album Super.

0:36:23 > 0:36:25Look at me, I've got... Look.

0:36:25 > 0:36:29Oooh. Olde worlde vinyl, ladies and gentlemen.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32- It's not olde worlde any more. - No, it's very popular now!

0:36:32 > 0:36:34Very. Sainsbury's...

0:36:34 > 0:36:36LAUGHTER

0:36:36 > 0:36:39- ..I read in the paper, are starting to sell them.- Really?- Yeah.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41- Vinyl records?- Vinyl records, yeah.

0:36:41 > 0:36:43It's a world gone mad, isn't it?

0:36:44 > 0:36:47What'll they do with them? Does anyone have a record player?

0:36:47 > 0:36:49It's funny, everyone's talking about people buying vinyl,

0:36:49 > 0:36:51but where do you buy a record player?

0:36:51 > 0:36:55- Erm, well, sort of DJ shops you can buy...- Oh!- Yeah.

0:36:55 > 0:36:58You can get your Technics decks, you know?

0:36:58 > 0:37:00He's down with the kids! Very good.

0:37:00 > 0:37:02So that is out now. Oh, no, it's not.

0:37:02 > 0:37:06It's out on April the 1st, but The Pop Kids is out now.

0:37:06 > 0:37:07And you're doing -

0:37:07 > 0:37:10is it three nights at the Royal Opera House or five?

0:37:10 > 0:37:12- It's four, actually.- OK.

0:37:12 > 0:37:14"It's none of those, Graham!"

0:37:14 > 0:37:16LAUGHTER

0:37:16 > 0:37:18Actually, I could have worked it out,

0:37:18 > 0:37:20cos it says here, from the 20th to the 23rd.

0:37:20 > 0:37:22That would be four nights.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25Of July. At the Royal Opera House, though - posh.

0:37:25 > 0:37:27The Royal Opera House, yeah. They asked us...

0:37:27 > 0:37:29Actually, they asked us last year and we said no.

0:37:29 > 0:37:31But this year we had a new album out.

0:37:31 > 0:37:34And it's sort of a special thing, playing at the Royal Opera House.

0:37:34 > 0:37:36And when you're putting together the show,

0:37:36 > 0:37:39Chris, do you go to rehearsals at all?

0:37:39 > 0:37:40LAUGHTER

0:37:41 > 0:37:43Erm, I've always done as little as possible.

0:37:43 > 0:37:45LAUGHTER

0:37:45 > 0:37:47No, but seriously, do you show up on the night

0:37:47 > 0:37:50and just go, "Where's the Yamaha? And I'll go stand there."

0:37:50 > 0:37:52We have used a body double in the past.

0:37:52 > 0:37:54- You just didn't show? You phoned in sick?- No, we haven't!

0:37:54 > 0:37:58- We have, when I was sick in Barcelona.- Oh, just once, yeah.

0:37:58 > 0:38:00- LAUGHTER - No-one knows.

0:38:00 > 0:38:02No, they did.

0:38:02 > 0:38:06Listen, the album Super is out on April the 1st.

0:38:06 > 0:38:08Ladies and gentlemen, the Pet Shop Boys!

0:38:08 > 0:38:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:38:12 > 0:38:14We've just got time before we go

0:38:14 > 0:38:17to make our first visit of the series to the Big Red Chair.

0:38:17 > 0:38:18Who awaits?

0:38:18 > 0:38:20- Hello.- Hello!- What's your name?

0:38:20 > 0:38:23- My name is Janice.- Janice. And where are you from, Janice?

0:38:23 > 0:38:24I'm from Minnesota.

0:38:24 > 0:38:26- Are you really?- Yes.

0:38:26 > 0:38:28Cos you sound like you're pretending.

0:38:28 > 0:38:30- LAUGHTER - No, I'm from Minnesota.

0:38:30 > 0:38:32It's like, "I'm going to sound like I'm from Minnesota

0:38:32 > 0:38:35"and I'm going to dress like someone from Minnesota."

0:38:35 > 0:38:36LAUGHTER

0:38:36 > 0:38:39I don't know why I think they wear knitted hoodies.

0:38:39 > 0:38:41But there you go, I thought they did.

0:38:41 > 0:38:43Are you here on your holidays?

0:38:43 > 0:38:45No, we're actually living here for a few months.

0:38:45 > 0:38:48- Oh, right, what are you doing? - My husband is an IT specialist.

0:38:48 > 0:38:52- He's an IT specialist? Is he from Minnesota too?- Yes, he is.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54Oh, right. But you normally live in Minnesota

0:38:54 > 0:38:56- but you've come here for the few months?- Yes.

0:38:56 > 0:38:59- To install something?- Yes.

0:38:59 > 0:39:01- Do you know what?- No.

0:39:01 > 0:39:03LAUGHTER

0:39:03 > 0:39:04So where are you getting to stay?

0:39:04 > 0:39:06We're in Kensington.

0:39:06 > 0:39:08GRAHAM GASPS Oh, I tell you -

0:39:08 > 0:39:11oh, she's far from Minnesota now, ladies and gentlemen!

0:39:11 > 0:39:12Wow!

0:39:12 > 0:39:16- You've landed on your feet, Janice. - Oh, good!- Yeah!

0:39:16 > 0:39:18LAUGHTER

0:39:18 > 0:39:21- No, he's a catch, the old IT guy. - Oh, yeah, he is.

0:39:21 > 0:39:23How long have you been married?

0:39:23 > 0:39:24Um, a lot of years.

0:39:24 > 0:39:26LAUGHTER

0:39:27 > 0:39:30- We'll leave it at that, Janice!- 16?

0:39:30 > 0:39:32I went to art school. 16!

0:39:34 > 0:39:36LAUGHTER

0:39:36 > 0:39:3816 years, Janice is married!

0:39:38 > 0:39:40Well done.

0:39:41 > 0:39:44OK, Janice, I look forward to this story.

0:39:44 > 0:39:46Off you go with your story.

0:39:46 > 0:39:49OK, so a long time ago I went on a date with a guy

0:39:49 > 0:39:53who thought he was Indiana Jones, complete with hat and jacket.

0:39:53 > 0:39:56And he picked me up in his car and we drove to dinner,

0:39:56 > 0:39:58and as we were driving to dinner,

0:39:58 > 0:40:00he had a flaky booger on the end of his nose.

0:40:00 > 0:40:03And he was telling me his adventuresome tales,

0:40:03 > 0:40:05because his father was an archaeologist,

0:40:05 > 0:40:08but I couldn't look at him, because every time I looked,

0:40:08 > 0:40:10the booger would just go like this in the wind.

0:40:10 > 0:40:13And so then we sat down to dinner, and it was still there.

0:40:13 > 0:40:15And I thought, "Oh, my gosh,

0:40:15 > 0:40:18"this is going to totally come out in his food!"

0:40:18 > 0:40:21So I didn't... All I know was Africa, something.

0:40:21 > 0:40:23I don't even remember what he was talking about.

0:40:23 > 0:40:26Then we got in the parking lot, he slipped on the ice.

0:40:26 > 0:40:29His hat flew. He got up and pretended nothing happened.

0:40:29 > 0:40:31He had a big messy situation.

0:40:31 > 0:40:33But the fall did dislodge his booger.

0:40:33 > 0:40:35I never went out with him again.

0:40:37 > 0:40:38That's a terrible story.

0:40:38 > 0:40:39Oh!

0:40:39 > 0:40:42LAUGHTER

0:40:45 > 0:40:46It seems...

0:40:46 > 0:40:48Oh! Oh! oh!

0:40:48 > 0:40:50LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:40:58 > 0:41:00Oh, poor Janice.

0:41:02 > 0:41:05I had such high hopes for Janice's story!

0:41:05 > 0:41:07The life that woman's led

0:41:07 > 0:41:11and the best story she had was just somebody with a booger.

0:41:12 > 0:41:14That was poor. I'd hoped for more.

0:41:14 > 0:41:16Has the chair been repaired?

0:41:16 > 0:41:19LAUGHTER

0:41:19 > 0:41:22What? Oh, we are. OK, one more. One more. OK. Here we go.

0:41:22 > 0:41:24- Hello.- Hi! - Hi, what's your name?

0:41:24 > 0:41:26- Louise.- Louise. Are you - are you from Britain?

0:41:26 > 0:41:28- I am. I'm from London.- Wow!

0:41:28 > 0:41:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:41:30 > 0:41:31How amazing!

0:41:31 > 0:41:34OK, Louise, off you go with your story.

0:41:34 > 0:41:37OK, well, my story involves a female-only sauna,

0:41:37 > 0:41:40a very tiny towel, and eight men in uniform.

0:41:40 > 0:41:42Oh, very good. Now, can I just say,

0:41:42 > 0:41:44that's a very good opening to a story.

0:41:44 > 0:41:45We're all vaguely interested now.

0:41:45 > 0:41:48There's something for everyone in that story, isn't there?

0:41:48 > 0:41:50Off you go.

0:41:50 > 0:41:52OK, so a few years ago I lived in Paris

0:41:52 > 0:41:56and I was at the gym one evening and went to the sauna afterwards.

0:41:56 > 0:42:01And I went in the sauna with this teeny-weeny little towel.

0:42:01 > 0:42:03It was women only.

0:42:03 > 0:42:05The French women, the Parisian women, are very laid-back.

0:42:05 > 0:42:08And as I was climbing up to get onto my seat -

0:42:08 > 0:42:10you know there are wooden benches in the sauna -

0:42:10 > 0:42:13my leg went through the wooden bench. One of the slats broke,

0:42:13 > 0:42:16my leg went through. And I was jammed. Could not get out.

0:42:16 > 0:42:19And so my friend went off to get help.

0:42:19 > 0:42:22After about 30 minutes of standing there,

0:42:22 > 0:42:25sweating in the sauna, all of a sudden the door opens...

0:42:25 > 0:42:27Wait a minute, they didn't turn the sauna off?!

0:42:27 > 0:42:29LAUGHTER

0:42:29 > 0:42:32The door opens and not one, not two,

0:42:32 > 0:42:33but eight firemen

0:42:33 > 0:42:36walked in, decided it was a job for eight of them.

0:42:36 > 0:42:38LAUGHTER

0:42:38 > 0:42:41And managed to pull my leg out of there. These men were very burly.

0:42:41 > 0:42:44My friend told me afterwards they were very good-looking.

0:42:44 > 0:42:46I wouldn't have known, I couldn't look them in the face!

0:42:46 > 0:42:48I was just too mortified.

0:42:48 > 0:42:50Yeah, that was it. That was my story.

0:42:50 > 0:42:53Aw, bless. I do need to flip you, though.

0:42:53 > 0:42:54LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE There you go.

0:42:54 > 0:42:57Well done, everyone, and if you would like to join us on the show

0:42:57 > 0:43:00and have a go on the Red Chair, you can contact us via our website

0:43:00 > 0:43:02at this very address. That's it for tonight.

0:43:02 > 0:43:05Please say thank you to my guests - Pet Shop Boys!

0:43:05 > 0:43:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:07 > 0:43:08Henry Cavill!

0:43:08 > 0:43:10CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:10 > 0:43:11Amy Adams!

0:43:11 > 0:43:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:13 > 0:43:14And Ben Affleck!

0:43:14 > 0:43:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:17 > 0:43:20Join me next week with music from Raleigh Ritchie,

0:43:20 > 0:43:21actor Stephen Mangan,

0:43:21 > 0:43:24Hollywood stars Kirsten Dunst and Jessica Chastain,

0:43:24 > 0:43:26and the mighty Thor himself, Chris Hemsworth.

0:43:26 > 0:43:29I'll see you then! Good night, everybody, goodbye!

0:43:29 > 0:43:31CHEERING AND APPLAUSE