Episode 3

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0:00:02 > 0:00:07This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10So many great films to talk about! I'm here with my date, Dame Helen Mirren. Mm!

0:00:10 > 0:00:14I'm all set. I've got my popcorn, I've got my drink...

0:00:14 > 0:00:17All I need now is a snog with my date.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21Charming. Let's start the show!

0:00:21 > 0:00:24CHEERING

0:00:37 > 0:00:39Oh!

0:00:39 > 0:00:40Oh!

0:00:40 > 0:00:41Oh!

0:00:41 > 0:00:43Oh! Oh!

0:00:43 > 0:00:45Hello!

0:00:45 > 0:00:46Hello!

0:00:46 > 0:00:49Welcome, one. Welcome, all!

0:00:52 > 0:00:55Thank you! Thank you! Lovely to see you all.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57Thanks for being here. Great show tonight.

0:00:57 > 0:01:02Of course, the great dame herself is here, plus a host of film stars.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05I tell you, there are more stars on that sofa

0:01:05 > 0:01:07than a tax office in Panama. There really are.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12Not me! Phew!

0:01:13 > 0:01:15I did check. "Did I do that?

0:01:15 > 0:01:17"No, I didn't."

0:01:17 > 0:01:20Now, very exciting because, later on, we've got a real treat.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23Making his first appearance on the show,

0:01:23 > 0:01:27actor and Academy Award-winning director Kevin Costner!

0:01:27 > 0:01:30CHEERING Yeah! He's here!

0:01:31 > 0:01:33But who's coming on first?

0:01:33 > 0:01:35From Slough to superstardom,

0:01:35 > 0:01:38this man has won Baftas, Golden Globes and Emmys

0:01:38 > 0:01:40and is one of Britain's greatest comedy exports...

0:01:40 > 0:01:44Please welcome, Mr Ricky Gervais!

0:01:44 > 0:01:45Yeah!

0:01:45 > 0:01:48- Hello!- Thank you.

0:01:48 > 0:01:49How do you do? Good to see you!

0:01:49 > 0:01:52- You all right?- Yeah, good. Sit down!

0:01:53 > 0:01:56Starring with Ricky in his new film Special Correspondents,

0:01:56 > 0:01:59this man is one of Australia's finest actors

0:01:59 > 0:02:02who starred in Munich, Star Trek, Troy and Black Hawk Down,

0:02:02 > 0:02:04it's Mr Eric Bana!

0:02:05 > 0:02:07Yes, it is!

0:02:07 > 0:02:10Hello! How are you doing? Nice to see you! Sit down, sit down!

0:02:12 > 0:02:16He went from Trainspotting to "Moulin Rouge!" and Star Wars

0:02:16 > 0:02:17as the young Obi-Wan Kenobi.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20Now he's starring in the new Le Carre thriller,

0:02:20 > 0:02:21Our Kind Of Traitor,

0:02:21 > 0:02:24it's Ewan McGregor, everybody!

0:02:25 > 0:02:27- Hello!- New shoes?

0:02:27 > 0:02:29- How are you? - I'm really well, nice to see you.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31Hi, lads.

0:02:31 > 0:02:37And it's a very warm welcome back to true acting royalty.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40It's the Tony, Emmy and Oscar-winning Dame Helen Mirren!

0:02:42 > 0:02:44Yay!

0:02:44 > 0:02:45Hello!

0:02:45 > 0:02:48Mwah! Lovely to see you! Come in...

0:02:50 > 0:02:52Sit! Sit!

0:02:52 > 0:02:53Oh!

0:02:53 > 0:02:56Glad we all chose dark colours tonight. That was a good choice.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59You look lovely. You stand out.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02- They're not overcrowding you, there, on the sofa, the boys?- I wish.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05He made me move up but I'm on a crack.

0:03:05 > 0:03:10- Move on down.- Someone thought he was the only one on.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13There you go. No, because men like to do the manspreading thing,

0:03:13 > 0:03:15which can crush a lady.

0:03:15 > 0:03:18Yes, look, even here, I'm sitting nicely like this

0:03:18 > 0:03:20- with my legs crossed. You are, too. - Yes.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23They're all like, you know, "My sofa."

0:03:25 > 0:03:28No, because, Ricky Gervais, you've fallen victim of manspreading.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32Well, it wasn't me. We were at the Knicks game in New York, basketball.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35We're right in the front row, great seats.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39This side of me was your mate Hugh Jackman...

0:03:39 > 0:03:41Right.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44- Because he's from Australia. - Yeah, you all live in the same...

0:03:44 > 0:03:47Like Neighbours. You all live in the same...

0:03:47 > 0:03:49My girlfriend Jane was here and, next to her,

0:03:49 > 0:03:52Evander Holyfield came and sat down

0:03:52 > 0:03:56and he's massive and she went, "His thighs are halfway on my..."

0:03:56 > 0:03:57His thighs were like that, right?

0:03:57 > 0:04:01"I'm squeezed up," and I said, "I'm not going to say anything!"

0:04:01 > 0:04:04Wolverine wouldn't help me, would he?

0:04:04 > 0:04:05They were massive, yeah.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07I don't need to spread.

0:04:07 > 0:04:08I've got tiny testicles.

0:04:11 > 0:04:13You see, I would have thought, Eric and Ewan,

0:04:13 > 0:04:16because you both ride motorcycles, that you're kind of...

0:04:16 > 0:04:18You must be prone to manspreading.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20I actually had an incident last week.

0:04:20 > 0:04:23I was at a football game and I had a foot-spreader.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25I had a foot-spreader next to me

0:04:25 > 0:04:28and I actually found myself getting quite pissed off about it

0:04:28 > 0:04:31because... Like Ricky, he had sort of invaded my space

0:04:31 > 0:04:34to the point that I couldn't adopt a neutral stance.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36I had to kind of like do that.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39- You wanted to spread. - I wanted to hit him and he...

0:04:40 > 0:04:44And I just couldn't reclaim it and it took until three-quarter time.

0:04:44 > 0:04:46I had to wait till he went to the bathroom

0:04:46 > 0:04:49and then I was like, "Oh, finally!"

0:04:49 > 0:04:52And he didn't return so I couldn't actually claim...

0:04:52 > 0:04:56And he barracked for the opposition, so I just was trying to be nice.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59Because, now, Ewan McGregor, see, the motorcycle thing,

0:04:59 > 0:05:01but also kilts, I would've thought would encourage manspreading.

0:05:01 > 0:05:03- Definitely not!- No.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05Why would you do that with a kilt on?

0:05:05 > 0:05:08You have to be careful with a kilt.

0:05:08 > 0:05:10But doesn't the sporran keep the middle down?

0:05:10 > 0:05:13If you've got enough change in your sporran to weigh it down.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15Is that a euphemism?

0:05:15 > 0:05:19- Is that what you put in a sporran? Money?- Change, your fags, whatever.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21I didn't know that. They're like a little pocket.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24- It's like a little pouch.- I thought it was just a look, you know?

0:05:24 > 0:05:26- It's a practical thing. - BANA:- The original fanny pack.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28Original man-bag, he says!

0:05:28 > 0:05:29A man-bag!

0:05:29 > 0:05:33Your traditional Scottish thing is a man-bag!

0:05:34 > 0:05:35Braveheart had a man-bag!

0:05:37 > 0:05:39The other thing is to touch people.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41- What?- It's to touch people.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44Different times, different times.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49- Nice to see you.- Lovely.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- Hi.- How's it going?

0:05:51 > 0:05:54You see politicians do this.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57You see them fighting to be the first one to touch the other one

0:05:57 > 0:05:59- because touching... - Is that a power...

0:05:59 > 0:06:01- That's a power thing, though. - It's a power thing.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06If I touch Ewan, I'm not being nice to Ewan, I'm saying...

0:06:06 > 0:06:08It's quite nice.

0:06:08 > 0:06:10- Stop it!- It's quite nice to me.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13- Please touch me again. Go on. - You know what I'm saying.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16Have you a lot of change in your sporran now?

0:06:16 > 0:06:19APPLAUSE

0:06:21 > 0:06:24Hey, we've got lots of movies to talk about tonight

0:06:24 > 0:06:29so let's start with Dame Helen's new film, which is Eye In The Sky.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33I love this film. It's a properly kind of exciting, nail-biting drama

0:06:33 > 0:06:36about modern warfare with drones.

0:06:36 > 0:06:38It opens next Friday.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40Before we talk about it,

0:06:40 > 0:06:44this clip really kind of sets up the central moral dilemma

0:06:44 > 0:06:47in that sort of warfare. You're the colonel.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53She's stopped.

0:07:16 > 0:07:20Lieutenant, we have this one opportunity. Let's not lose it.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24- Ma'am, she's selling bread.- Jesus...

0:07:24 > 0:07:26Those men are about to disperse. Engage now.

0:07:26 > 0:07:28Ma'am, I understand we have clearance.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30I will fire if I see the HVIs moving

0:07:30 > 0:07:32or when this girl's out of the frag radius

0:07:32 > 0:07:34but I want to give her a chance to get out of the way.

0:07:34 > 0:07:35Lieutenant, you have clearance.

0:07:35 > 0:07:38There is a lot more at stake than you see here in this image.

0:07:38 > 0:07:42Ma'am, I need you to run the collateral damage estimate again with this girl out front.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44The situation has not changed, lieutenant.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46You are cleared to engage.

0:07:46 > 0:07:48CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:07:52 > 0:07:55And it is, you know... A lot of movies try to be tense.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58This is... And it holds you for the whole time.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01Yes, it does. It really does. It takes place in real time.

0:08:01 > 0:08:06The two hours that this operation takes to be completed

0:08:06 > 0:08:08is exactly the sort of two hours of the movie...

0:08:08 > 0:08:12And it's a kind of forensic examination of all the decisions

0:08:12 > 0:08:14- that have to go into something. - Yes. Extraordinary.

0:08:14 > 0:08:15I didn't know about this

0:08:15 > 0:08:18and I think the majority of the audience won't understand.

0:08:18 > 0:08:22In a strike like this, specifically like this,

0:08:22 > 0:08:26this is exactly what would happen in terms of the chain of command,

0:08:26 > 0:08:30going all the way up to the Prime Minister if necessary,

0:08:30 > 0:08:34and nobody, as you see in the movie, quite wanting to make a decision.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37And it's a great cast of Americans and British actors.

0:08:37 > 0:08:40And we must mention the late, great Alan Rickman, who's perfect in this.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42Yes, fantastic. His last film.

0:08:42 > 0:08:44- It's a brilliant, fitting final performance.- It is.

0:08:44 > 0:08:47I think it's a movie he would be very proud of

0:08:47 > 0:08:49in the sense that he would appreciate what the film was about

0:08:49 > 0:08:51and the way in which it tells its story,

0:08:51 > 0:08:53it doesn't take sides, incidentally.

0:08:53 > 0:08:55It makes no moral decisions.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57It just throws up the moral questions

0:08:57 > 0:09:02but what I love about the film is it's Alan as I knew Alan, you know?

0:09:02 > 0:09:04He was a brilliant character actor

0:09:04 > 0:09:07and we see him in Harry Potter and Die Hard

0:09:07 > 0:09:09playing these extraordinary characters.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11That is Alan as he really is, you know?

0:09:11 > 0:09:15Funny, urbane, intelligent, very human

0:09:15 > 0:09:18and so it's really great to see him up there.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21There is action in this film even though you're in that room,

0:09:21 > 0:09:24but you have done the kind of big action thing.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- You did the Red franchise. - I did Red, yes.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29And, now, I hear... I don't know if this is true.

0:09:29 > 0:09:33That you are gunning to be in a big action franchise.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35Yes, Fast And Furious.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37- I would love to be in Fast And Furious. - LAUGHTER

0:09:37 > 0:09:40- You're not joking, are you? You're serious.- No, no.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42It's incredible fun to do those movies. Aren't they?

0:09:42 > 0:09:46I mean, they're like... You don't act.

0:09:46 > 0:09:48LAUGHTER

0:09:48 > 0:09:50Phew!

0:09:50 > 0:09:53- Now I'm interested, yeah. - No acting required.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55It's amazing. They set all these things...

0:09:55 > 0:09:58Things explode all around you and...

0:09:58 > 0:10:00Oh, it's unbelievable fun.

0:10:00 > 0:10:04And that with cars, that would be my dream come true.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07- I didn't know - you love cars. - I don't love cars.

0:10:07 > 0:10:08- You like driving?- I like driving.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11I'm not interested in cars as cars.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13You guys are, right? Some of you are.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15- You're a racing driver. - Yeah, I love cars

0:10:15 > 0:10:19but I don't ever want to do a movie where you pretend to race cars

0:10:19 > 0:10:21because that would drive me insane.

0:10:21 > 0:10:23Oh, I'd like that.

0:10:23 > 0:10:24- I'd be very offended.- Oh!

0:10:25 > 0:10:27A guy coming over and saying,

0:10:27 > 0:10:30"Are you familiar with a manual transmission?"

0:10:30 > 0:10:33- But you can't... Can you not drive at all?- No.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36No, but do you know how?

0:10:36 > 0:10:37Well, I've seen people do it.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42- I'll have a go. - You don't have a licence?- No.- OK.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45You can't drink and drive, so what's the point?

0:10:45 > 0:10:49That's kind of... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:10:50 > 0:10:53That's sort of why I learnt.

0:10:53 > 0:10:56- To stop myself drinking!- Really?

0:10:56 > 0:11:00- There'll be a couple of occasions when I can't drink.- Not worth it.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03Helen, have you done the stunt driving in movies?

0:11:03 > 0:11:06I drove stunt driving, believe it or not, in The Queen.

0:11:06 > 0:11:08Was there a lot of stunt...

0:11:12 > 0:11:14Now, you may think that doesn't count as stunt driving

0:11:14 > 0:11:18but I had to do a shot where, as my fellow actors will know,

0:11:18 > 0:11:21the cameras were set up all across the front of the car,

0:11:21 > 0:11:25so I couldn't see anything and I had to drive like quite fast

0:11:25 > 0:11:32through country... Not even made-up roads, just back tracks in Scotland

0:11:32 > 0:11:36so that... I think that sort of categorises as stunt driving.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38Yeah, Fast And Furious - easy.

0:11:40 > 0:11:43Previous experience!

0:11:43 > 0:11:46I also smashed a camera off the side of a car

0:11:46 > 0:11:48when I was stunt driving once.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51I totally forgot that it was on the side...

0:11:51 > 0:11:54You know, put on the side of the car.

0:11:54 > 0:11:58I was on my own in the car and I went round a corner really fast

0:11:58 > 0:12:01but, of course, I forgot about the camera

0:12:01 > 0:12:03and I completely smashed it off the...

0:12:03 > 0:12:05Total write-off, the camera.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07We've got a lot to think about, though, haven't we?

0:12:07 > 0:12:10We're put in cars and asked to drive with cameras in the way

0:12:10 > 0:12:13and we're acting as well. There's quite a lot to think about.

0:12:13 > 0:12:16And, suddenly, it becomes impossible to open the door.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19Somehow, opening the door becomes a real difficulty.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22What I can't do in a film is park a car.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25Like, I'm a good driver and I can park a car like the best of them...

0:12:25 > 0:12:27All right!

0:12:28 > 0:12:31But, when there's a camera crew there, you can't park a car.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35It's tough being an actor.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39The audience are going, "Oh, poor them!"

0:12:39 > 0:12:43Nurses, soldiers... You try and park a car with someone looking at you.

0:12:45 > 0:12:48Because, Ricky and Eric, your new movie is Special Correspondents.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51Now, Eric, you did all your own driving in that, though, didn't you?

0:12:51 > 0:12:53There wasn't much, there was just one scene

0:12:53 > 0:12:56where we have a little getaway and some people, you know,

0:12:56 > 0:12:58claim to be nervous passengers in your car and you kind of go,

0:12:58 > 0:13:02"Oh, whatever, I don't mind scaring them," but I genuinely...

0:13:02 > 0:13:07Ricky was so convincing, describing to me how scared...

0:13:07 > 0:13:09- I'm scared of roads. - Really, really scared.

0:13:09 > 0:13:12No, seriously, I'm scared of roads and speed and all that.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14And guns. I'm scared of guns.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17I had to shoot a gun and jump into a Jeep that he had to...

0:13:17 > 0:13:20I found out. I didn't even know he was a race car driver

0:13:20 > 0:13:24when I wrote the scene and then that worried me but he was really good.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26I was so... I went the other way.

0:13:26 > 0:13:28I was like, "He's going to really, really get scared here

0:13:28 > 0:13:30"if I try and scare him,"

0:13:30 > 0:13:32so I actually... I took it really easy on him, actually,

0:13:32 > 0:13:36because I was worried he would go to his trailer and just not come back.

0:13:36 > 0:13:40He drove with one hand and the other hand just comforting me.

0:13:41 > 0:13:45Manspreaded, our knees were touching.

0:13:45 > 0:13:46I said, "It's all right."

0:13:46 > 0:13:48Well, you're making the film sound very exciting.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53Special Correspondents, now, this is posh and new, ladies and gentlemen.

0:13:53 > 0:13:58It is released worldwide on Netflix on 29th April.

0:13:58 > 0:14:00- Exactly.- So tell the people what it's about.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02It's about...

0:14:02 > 0:14:05I play a bit of a radio nerd.

0:14:05 > 0:14:06I'm an engineer.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09Eric plays a handsome sort of...

0:14:09 > 0:14:11We flipped a coin. He plays...

0:14:12 > 0:14:16..the tall handsome radio sort of news journalist

0:14:16 > 0:14:19and I look up to him but he thinks I'm an idiot

0:14:19 > 0:14:20and he sort of bullies me.

0:14:20 > 0:14:21And we're thrown together,

0:14:21 > 0:14:24and we're meant to go and cover a civil war,

0:14:24 > 0:14:27but because I'm going through a really bad time,

0:14:27 > 0:14:29I lose the tickets and passport

0:14:29 > 0:14:33and we have to sort of hide in a Spanish restaurant

0:14:33 > 0:14:37and we're trying to work out how we get out of this

0:14:37 > 0:14:39and I think this is... You've got a clip.

0:14:39 > 0:14:42We've got the clip of you and the people in the Spanish restaurant.

0:14:42 > 0:14:45Yeah, we're trying to brainstorm how we get out of this situation now

0:14:45 > 0:14:48because we're expected to do a report from Ecuador in a few hours

0:14:48 > 0:14:51- and, obviously, we're not there. - Here we go.

0:14:51 > 0:14:52We need to brainstorm.

0:14:52 > 0:14:53- Brainstorm.- Brainstorm.

0:14:55 > 0:14:58- What is a brainstorm?- I love these two to bits but they're not

0:14:58 > 0:15:00- the sharpest tool in the box. - You're a genius.

0:15:00 > 0:15:04- Can two other people go, instead of you?- What? Of course not.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07- Can you cover a different story? - No, it needs to be that story,

0:15:07 > 0:15:10it needs to be Ecuador and it needs to be us.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13- I got it.- Go on.- You could use someone else's passports.

0:15:13 > 0:15:17- Ours!- Oh, we're screwed. - No, but she's... Who would...?

0:15:17 > 0:15:19OK, um...you could save up money for a new ticket

0:15:19 > 0:15:23- and by then the passports will be here.- And the war will be over.

0:15:23 > 0:15:26- That's good.- Not for us. - No, but for the people.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29- Less will die.- Less will die. - They're thinking of the people.

0:15:29 > 0:15:31- Less will die. - You'll die, though - I'll kill you.

0:15:31 > 0:15:35LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:15:39 > 0:15:41You guys have not worked together before.

0:15:41 > 0:15:43Eric, how did you expect Ricky to be as a director?

0:15:43 > 0:15:47I had no real expectation. I was just shocked that he knew who I was.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50I got a call that he was doing this project and blah, blah, blah

0:15:50 > 0:15:52and "We'll send you the script." I'm like,

0:15:52 > 0:15:55"Oh, yeah, I'm a fan and I would love to read what he's doing next.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58"What's the point of me reading the script?" They're like,

0:15:58 > 0:16:00"He wants you to be in it." And I literally, I was like,

0:16:00 > 0:16:05- "Does Ricky Gervais know who I am? Does he know I exist?"- Really?- Yeah.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09It was so bizarre! And I read the script and it was terrible.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12LAUGHTER

0:16:12 > 0:16:17But I was humbled by the fact that he knew who I was, so I said yes.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19And I remember, the reason I cast you is

0:16:19 > 0:16:22cos I thought you were this really cool, brooding thespian -

0:16:22 > 0:16:26I saw you in Munich and he was the Hulk and all this -

0:16:26 > 0:16:29and I thought it would be great, an action hero, a bit screwed up.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32And on the first day you said,

0:16:32 > 0:16:34"Did you cast me cos you knew I did comedy?"

0:16:34 > 0:16:36And I didn't. He started out in comedy, in Australia,

0:16:36 > 0:16:39in a very similar way to me.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42You did a little sketch show and then you got your own show

0:16:42 > 0:16:46and then you went and became a handsome action hero.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49- Just like you.- Just like me.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51No, but I didn't...

0:16:51 > 0:16:54And I found out he was an idiot like me. It was brilliant!

0:16:54 > 0:16:56He's not cool at all, he's a fucking idiot.

0:16:56 > 0:16:58LAUGHTER

0:16:58 > 0:17:03We talked about nothing but our balls for about six...

0:17:03 > 0:17:07- Is that true?- Unfortunately. - But in a funny Russian accent.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09- RUSSIAN ACCENT: - "Hello, how are your balls?"

0:17:09 > 0:17:12I don't know how that happened. It just morphed into...

0:17:12 > 0:17:15Why did it have to be Russian? He'd come to work and go...

0:17:15 > 0:17:18- RUSSIAN ACCENT:- "And here comes Mr Bana with his big balls."

0:17:18 > 0:17:20And I'd be like...

0:17:20 > 0:17:24- RUSSIAN ACCENT:- "Here comes Mr Gervais with the suspiciously round balls."

0:17:24 > 0:17:27Is it cos I found out you were Croatian?

0:17:27 > 0:17:30Yeah, but I'm not Russian!

0:17:30 > 0:17:32I can't do any accents.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34It just sounds different. That's it.

0:17:34 > 0:17:37He had to play American and I didn't want to play American.

0:17:37 > 0:17:42Everyone was American except me. I wrote in, "He's from Reading."

0:17:42 > 0:17:44LAUGHTER

0:17:44 > 0:17:47You may not have known that Eric Bana was a stand-up

0:17:47 > 0:17:50but I didn't know that you, Helen, worked as a carny,

0:17:50 > 0:17:52like in a carnival.

0:17:52 > 0:17:57Uh, well, in Southend-on-Sea, which sadly is closed now.

0:17:57 > 0:17:59It was a funfair.

0:17:59 > 0:18:01OK. What did you do?

0:18:01 > 0:18:03I worked on a dart's stall

0:18:03 > 0:18:08and I worked as a blaggard to get the people to come to the stall.

0:18:08 > 0:18:12You seem a bit posh to do that.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14She was common then.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16I was common then, actually.

0:18:16 > 0:18:20Not really, but I did live in Southend-on-Sea.

0:18:20 > 0:18:25Southend-on-Sea's fabulous. It's St Tropez, you know...

0:18:25 > 0:18:27The British St Tropez.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29And how did you encourage people to play darts?

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- I'd shout at them incomprehensively. - What would you say?

0:18:33 > 0:18:37"Excuse me, sir, sir, did you blag in at the gate? Did you?

0:18:37 > 0:18:40"No, I'm sorry, did you blag in at the gate? Cos you have to.

0:18:40 > 0:18:43"You have to blag in at the gate. If you haven't...

0:18:43 > 0:18:45"Sorry, I'll explain.

0:18:45 > 0:18:48"If you come over here I'll explain what it is.

0:18:48 > 0:18:49"Did you blag in at the gate?

0:18:49 > 0:18:52"Anyway, we've got a great stall here."

0:18:52 > 0:18:57- Just shout anything to get them to come over.- And that would work?

0:18:57 > 0:19:01Yeah, because if you're asking a question...people are,

0:19:01 > 0:19:03"What? What? What did you say?"

0:19:03 > 0:19:06How weird were the men that they needed to be asked twice

0:19:06 > 0:19:08to come over to you?

0:19:08 > 0:19:13A beautiful lady, darts - what's not to like? Yay!

0:19:13 > 0:19:15I assume it was rigged as well? Aren't they?

0:19:15 > 0:19:19It was just... Nobody ever won.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21That sounds rigged to me.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:19:26 > 0:19:30Now, guess what, everybody, as chance would have it,

0:19:30 > 0:19:33Ewan McGregor also has a new film out. Yes!

0:19:33 > 0:19:35WHOOPING AND CHEERING

0:19:35 > 0:19:39DROWNED OUT BY AUDIENCE

0:19:39 > 0:19:44- I feel a fool.- Don't feel a fool. - I don't have one. Everyone else...

0:19:44 > 0:19:48Everyone's got a film. This one is called Our Kind Of Traitor.

0:19:48 > 0:19:50It opens on Friday the 13th of May.

0:19:50 > 0:19:54Of course, John le Carre - very hot right now, after The Night Manager.

0:19:54 > 0:19:57- Exactly.- This is another one of his thrillers.

0:19:57 > 0:20:02Tell us who you are and what it contains.

0:20:02 > 0:20:07It's a story about an everyday man. I play a professor,

0:20:07 > 0:20:12a teacher in a college in London who gets drawn into an espionage plot

0:20:12 > 0:20:16between the British Secret Service and the Russian Mafia.

0:20:16 > 0:20:20Stellan Skarsgard plays the sort of main Russian Mafia...

0:20:20 > 0:20:23- He's so good.- He's funny in it. He's very, very good.

0:20:23 > 0:20:27And brilliant. I like working with him a lot. It's a good story.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29- Is it a comedy?- No.

0:20:29 > 0:20:31LAUGHTER

0:20:31 > 0:20:34He starts off funny... He starts off funny and then...

0:20:34 > 0:20:38No, he's funny to work WITH. His character's not particularly funny.

0:20:38 > 0:20:40He kills quite a lot of people.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43- LAUGHTER - But in a funny way.

0:20:43 > 0:20:46It's quite zeitgeist-y cos it's all about the new Russian money

0:20:46 > 0:20:48and that sort of stuff. How different is it from the book?

0:20:48 > 0:20:51Or do you know? Did you just get the script?

0:20:51 > 0:20:53It is pretty close to the book.

0:20:53 > 0:20:56The characters are older in the book and not Scottish -

0:20:56 > 0:21:00I played him as a Scotsman as opposed to an English person.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04Correct. No point doing silly accents.

0:21:04 > 0:21:06Let's have a look at a clip.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09This is you with your wife, played by Naomie Harris,

0:21:09 > 0:21:11being interrogated by Damian Lewis

0:21:11 > 0:21:14- and realising you are getting out of your depth.- Right.

0:21:14 > 0:21:16Perhaps you would like to sit down.

0:21:22 > 0:21:24I have some questions.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27Not tough. Medium-soft.

0:21:33 > 0:21:34Is this all he gave you?

0:21:34 > 0:21:36- Yeah.- Didn't offer you any money?

0:21:36 > 0:21:38Oh, he did, but I refused.

0:21:39 > 0:21:43- Then why did you bring it?- I thought it was the right thing to do.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46- He said his children would be killed if I didn't.- You believed him?

0:21:47 > 0:21:49He seemed scared.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54He told you he was a member of the Russian Mafia.

0:21:54 > 0:21:56And you still agreed to help him.

0:21:59 > 0:22:02- You haven't checked the contents of the memory stick?- No, I thought

0:22:02 > 0:22:04I could just hand it over and be done with it.

0:22:04 > 0:22:06Thought that would be it, you know?

0:22:06 > 0:22:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:22:12 > 0:22:15So you've got this movie out - and here's a thing -

0:22:15 > 0:22:17I didn't know - I don't know if you guys did -

0:22:17 > 0:22:20that, obviously, you were Obi-Wan Kenobi -

0:22:20 > 0:22:23- You didn't know that? - No, that I knew. That I knew.

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- But you are in the new Star Wars. - Well, hardly.

0:22:25 > 0:22:29My voice is in it for a second. I recorded a little line.

0:22:29 > 0:22:33- When do you speak?- I can't... I don't know.- Have you seen it?

0:22:33 > 0:22:34Have you seen it?

0:22:34 > 0:22:38I did. Yes, I thought it was very good. I can't...

0:22:38 > 0:22:40LAUGHTER

0:22:40 > 0:22:43That line - excellent!

0:22:43 > 0:22:47You know that bit where... I don't remember where I speak, no idea.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50- Alec Guinness speaks in it as well. - Yes.

0:22:50 > 0:22:52I think the beginning of the line is...

0:22:52 > 0:22:55The character's name is Rey - I am really struggling here.

0:22:55 > 0:22:57Go on, go on.

0:22:57 > 0:23:01- The character's name is, of course, as you all know, Rey.- It is.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05They wanted a line of dialogue that said, "Rey..."

0:23:05 > 0:23:07LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:23:07 > 0:23:09Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

0:23:09 > 0:23:13DROWNED OUT BY AUDIENCE

0:23:13 > 0:23:15Then there's some other line that I say.

0:23:15 > 0:23:19- "Rey, these are your first steps..." Or something.- What?

0:23:19 > 0:23:22- "Rey, these are your first steps." - Or something.- Something.

0:23:22 > 0:23:26That's what he says: "Rey, these are your first steps or something."

0:23:26 > 0:23:28So they recorded me saying it

0:23:28 > 0:23:32then they found Alec Guinness saying, "Afraid."

0:23:32 > 0:23:36And they cut the "A" and the "D" off

0:23:36 > 0:23:38and they took the "Rai" out...

0:23:38 > 0:23:40LAUGHTER

0:23:40 > 0:23:42So it's Alec Guinness saying, "Rey"

0:23:42 > 0:23:45and then me saying that other line that you said.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48Did you have to go all the way to Tunisia to do that?

0:23:48 > 0:23:51No. It was obviously a very last-minute thing.

0:23:51 > 0:23:54JJ Abrams e-mailed me out the blue.

0:23:54 > 0:23:57He got my e-mail address from someone and it was about two weeks

0:23:57 > 0:24:01before the film was released, so it was a last-minute,

0:24:01 > 0:24:04"Oh, let's.... That might be a good idea."

0:24:04 > 0:24:06So anyway. It was nice, I was glad to be part of it.

0:24:06 > 0:24:11And, very quickly, talking of iconic characters, David Brent is back.

0:24:11 > 0:24:12He is, yes.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:24:17 > 0:24:20The new movie, David Brent: Life On The Road, we already know,

0:24:20 > 0:24:23- it's opening on the 19th of August. - Yeah.

0:24:23 > 0:24:25And the trailer was released yesterday.

0:24:25 > 0:24:28Yeah, that is all we've got so far.

0:24:28 > 0:24:30It's Brent now, sort of 15 years later,

0:24:30 > 0:24:32we follow what he is doing,

0:24:32 > 0:24:35we find out what happened after The Office documentary went out,

0:24:35 > 0:24:38and what he went through, and he went though a bit of a breakdown.

0:24:38 > 0:24:44Now he's selling toiletry products as a rep, up and down the country,

0:24:44 > 0:24:46but he never gave up the dream of being a pop star...

0:24:46 > 0:24:48And he's cashed in a few pensions,

0:24:48 > 0:24:50and he's worked overtime and he's taken a holiday.

0:24:50 > 0:24:54He's paid for a bunch of session musicians to go on tour with him,

0:24:54 > 0:24:57he's hired venues and he thinks he's going to get signed

0:24:57 > 0:24:59and it's...tragic.

0:24:59 > 0:25:01LAUGHTER

0:25:01 > 0:25:04And you posted some pictures of you getting into full Brent mode.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06LAUGHTER

0:25:06 > 0:25:10He makes a video called Lady Gypsy

0:25:10 > 0:25:13about him losing his virginity when he was 18.

0:25:13 > 0:25:16That's him trying to look 18.

0:25:16 > 0:25:20You've gone full hog cos it's not just a film,

0:25:20 > 0:25:22there is an accompanying album.

0:25:22 > 0:25:24We're going to, yeah, bring out...

0:25:24 > 0:25:29It's 15, 20 tracks. Seriously.

0:25:29 > 0:25:33Of him. It is his dream come true and all these songs, like Lady Gypsy

0:25:33 > 0:25:35and Native American.

0:25:35 > 0:25:38And Equality Street. Yeah?

0:25:38 > 0:25:40He's trying to change stuff.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42But, yeah, basically...

0:25:42 > 0:25:48He is a man out of time. It is funny, but it is quite sad as well.

0:25:48 > 0:25:52- But Ricky Gervais, I'm guessing, is thrilled...- I'm nothing like him!

0:25:52 > 0:25:55No, but you are thrilled to be bringing out an album.

0:25:55 > 0:26:00I was a failed pop... I sneak a song into everything I do.

0:26:00 > 0:26:01I wrote a song for The Simpsons.

0:26:01 > 0:26:03I wrote a song with David Bowie for Extras.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05You wrote a song for Vera in Special Correspondents.

0:26:05 > 0:26:08Yeah, she sings a song. Yeah, yeah.

0:26:08 > 0:26:11I'm a frustrated, failed musician.

0:26:11 > 0:26:14It's great because I've got a get-out clause, it's sort of ironic,

0:26:14 > 0:26:17but it's so much fun playing with a rock band

0:26:17 > 0:26:22and they are really brilliant. It's Andy from Razorlight...

0:26:22 > 0:26:25Did you used to bring the guitar... When you were doing stand-up,

0:26:25 > 0:26:28were you one of those stand-ups who snuck a guitar on stage?

0:26:28 > 0:26:31No, I would never do that, or get it out at a party.

0:26:31 > 0:26:36When somebody gets that out - death. Forget it. We're going home.

0:26:36 > 0:26:40- Did you?- No, I always used to hate it when stand-ups did that.

0:26:40 > 0:26:45I know. It's like, "Oh, fuck me, he's got a guitar."

0:26:45 > 0:26:51- "Tell a joke."- Ricky, can we look at a picture of you in your pop career?

0:26:51 > 0:26:52- RICKY:- Whoo!

0:26:52 > 0:26:55- ERIC:- Which one's which? - LAUGHTER

0:26:55 > 0:26:59- HELEN:- Is that you on the right? - It is, yeah.- Wow, look at that!

0:26:59 > 0:27:02That is a curious eyebrow. That is a kind of,

0:27:02 > 0:27:04"Well, what is going on over there?"

0:27:04 > 0:27:08What's the name of that two-piece? What is that?

0:27:08 > 0:27:12- That's called Seona Dancing. Let's move on.- What's it called?

0:27:12 > 0:27:14See, I know what you are doing. You're going,

0:27:14 > 0:27:16"Oh, look at you there."

0:27:16 > 0:27:20I am not embarrassed by that, I am embarrassed by THIS.

0:27:20 > 0:27:24Everyone's going, "What the fuck happened?"

0:27:24 > 0:27:27I tell you what happened - pizza happened.

0:27:27 > 0:27:29LAUGHTER

0:27:29 > 0:27:32You've brought us a clip from David Brent: Life On The Road.

0:27:32 > 0:27:35Yeah, we get to know about his personal life a bit more and this is

0:27:35 > 0:27:40him pretending he is a bit of a Lothario. But...yeah.

0:27:40 > 0:27:45I have been out with all sorts of girls - rich girls, poor girls,

0:27:45 > 0:27:47white girls, you know.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50Thin girls. Fat girls.

0:27:50 > 0:27:53I went out with a very big lady.

0:27:53 > 0:27:57Lovely. Bubbly. Beautiful eyes.

0:27:57 > 0:27:59My mates were like, "Brent, if she lost weight,

0:27:59 > 0:28:01"she'd be an absolute stunner." And she did lose weight

0:28:01 > 0:28:03and she wasn't a stunner.

0:28:03 > 0:28:06Which was very disappointing.

0:28:06 > 0:28:08It was a surprise to everyone.

0:28:08 > 0:28:12I think she left it a bit late in life and lost it way too quickly,

0:28:12 > 0:28:15so she was left with that wattle thing.

0:28:15 > 0:28:19She wasn't bubbly any more. Bit grumpy.

0:28:19 > 0:28:21Always hungry.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:28:26 > 0:28:28Thank you.

0:28:29 > 0:28:31We look forward to seeing it.

0:28:32 > 0:28:34It is time to meet my final guest.

0:28:34 > 0:28:38This Hollywood legend has starred in so many of our favourite movies,

0:28:38 > 0:28:41from Field Of Dreams, The Bodyguard, The Untouchables,

0:28:41 > 0:28:43to the Oscar-winning Dances With Wolves.

0:28:43 > 0:28:46Welcome, for the first time to the show, Mr Kevin Costner, everybody!

0:28:46 > 0:28:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:28:53 > 0:28:57Hello, sir. Very, very nice to meet you. Please, sit down.

0:28:57 > 0:29:00Kevin Costner, everyone.

0:29:00 > 0:29:04DROWNED OUT BY AUDIENCE

0:29:10 > 0:29:13CHEERING CONTINUES

0:29:15 > 0:29:17Have you met these people before?

0:29:17 > 0:29:22I feel like we always are entering everybody's living room, basically,

0:29:22 > 0:29:27so I've watched, admired and laughed.

0:29:27 > 0:29:31You are always... Think better...

0:29:31 > 0:29:33Jesus Christ, why did I come on this show?

0:29:33 > 0:29:36LAUGHTER

0:29:36 > 0:29:39The others are thinking it, you've said it.

0:29:39 > 0:29:41LAUGHTER

0:29:41 > 0:29:44INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:29:44 > 0:29:47You have come out here tonight and you look like Kevin Costner.

0:29:47 > 0:29:51Because you were spending time in London in character

0:29:51 > 0:29:52for your new movie, Criminal,

0:29:52 > 0:29:55where people were slightly taken aback by you.

0:29:55 > 0:29:58- Yeah, they were. - Like frightened of you?

0:29:58 > 0:30:02Well, I play this part called Criminal,

0:30:02 > 0:30:05the only person that doesn't know about it is my mom.

0:30:05 > 0:30:10And I basically play a pretty dodgy character and fierce,

0:30:10 > 0:30:14and I had to figure out how he was going to look. And he comes out

0:30:14 > 0:30:17looking a little bit of a modern Frankenstein, if you will,

0:30:17 > 0:30:19a pretty fierce character.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21This is the look.

0:30:21 > 0:30:24Did people not recognise you?

0:30:24 > 0:30:30- Did you go out in London looking like that?- No, I put a hat on.

0:30:30 > 0:30:32I don't enjoy the...

0:30:32 > 0:30:34"I know you."

0:30:34 > 0:30:37That exchange is like, "No, you don't."

0:30:37 > 0:30:39And you just keep going.

0:30:39 > 0:30:42This film, Criminal, which opens next Friday,

0:30:42 > 0:30:47you play Jericho Stewart, and we are used to seeing you as the clean-cut,

0:30:47 > 0:30:49American hero, the good guy.

0:30:49 > 0:30:55No-one ever mistakes me for anything other than an American, I get that.

0:30:55 > 0:30:59I make cowboy movies and baseball movies.

0:30:59 > 0:31:04It is a little bit about the way you talk as well. Just a little bit.

0:31:04 > 0:31:08- Yeah.- But this guy is not just a bad guy, he is a monster.

0:31:08 > 0:31:10I don't feel like I'm playing...

0:31:10 > 0:31:12I feel like I'm playing somebody

0:31:12 > 0:31:16and people do not understand my problems, I don't feel like I'm bad.

0:31:16 > 0:31:19I think that's the way you have to go about it.

0:31:19 > 0:31:23In the film there is a ground-breaking medical process.

0:31:23 > 0:31:26Yes, we have a big leap-of-faith movie here,

0:31:26 > 0:31:29where we're going to have to transfer someone's memory into mine

0:31:29 > 0:31:32and if we don't, the city's in peril,

0:31:32 > 0:31:34so if you make your jump over that, that is what happens.

0:31:34 > 0:31:37I love it already. I love that. Fantastic.

0:31:37 > 0:31:40Someone puts someone else's memory in yours?

0:31:40 > 0:31:44- I get Ryan Reynolds' memory... - They'll be great memories!

0:31:44 > 0:31:45They'll be good memories.

0:31:45 > 0:31:49LAUGHTER

0:31:49 > 0:31:52I have a few myself!

0:31:52 > 0:31:55I get little flashbacks.

0:31:55 > 0:31:58The problem is my character is not a controllable person

0:31:58 > 0:32:01and he finally gets himself on the streets, being a lifelong criminal,

0:32:01 > 0:32:05and he realises people don't care about him, you know,

0:32:05 > 0:32:08everything he does goes back to the street

0:32:08 > 0:32:10and how he survives in prison.

0:32:10 > 0:32:14It opens next Friday. This clip, this is you returning to

0:32:14 > 0:32:18- the family home of Ryan Reynolds' character.- Of course.

0:32:18 > 0:32:21Basically, you are in his basement, you have got his memories,

0:32:21 > 0:32:22- and his wife finds you.- Yes.- OK.

0:32:22 > 0:32:24What are you doing in my basement?

0:32:27 > 0:32:28Did you work with Billy?

0:32:28 > 0:32:32I don't think anyone like him

0:32:32 > 0:32:34ever would have worked with somebody like me.

0:32:35 > 0:32:39They stuck Billy in my head.

0:32:40 > 0:32:41I got a scar. See?

0:32:42 > 0:32:44All the stuff that he knew,

0:32:44 > 0:32:48all the stuff that he could do, I got it all scrambled up inside me.

0:32:49 > 0:32:51That's impossible.

0:32:52 > 0:32:55The first car you two ever bought -

0:32:55 > 0:32:57used Rover.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59Bum clutch blew the first week.

0:33:01 > 0:33:05- I told you, they stuck his brain in me.- That's enough.

0:33:05 > 0:33:08- CHILD:- Mom? Mom, where are you? I'm hungry.

0:33:08 > 0:33:09Just a second, baby.

0:33:11 > 0:33:14Billy could never hurt you, so neither can I.

0:33:14 > 0:33:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:33:24 > 0:33:28When we knew you were coming on the show, we were talking about your movies

0:33:28 > 0:33:32in the office and not only is it lots of people's favourite movies,

0:33:32 > 0:33:35but for one actor it is an extraordinary hit rate.

0:33:35 > 0:33:39You know, massive hits. And yet, when you think about them,

0:33:39 > 0:33:41films like Field Of Dreams, Dances With Wolves,

0:33:41 > 0:33:47even a Robin Hood reboot - they are not obvious box-office gold.

0:33:47 > 0:33:50How did you get them made, how did you pick them?

0:33:50 > 0:33:54Some of them I actually had to put my own money into.

0:33:54 > 0:33:58I had to buy my own parts, actually.

0:33:58 > 0:34:02A lot of the movies I have done - Field Of Dreams, Bull Durham

0:34:02 > 0:34:05Dances With Wolves - were movies that were rejected by the studios.

0:34:05 > 0:34:08Bull Durham cost... Somebody wouldn't give us 4 million

0:34:08 > 0:34:11for Bull Durham and it ended up making like 300 million.

0:34:11 > 0:34:14Dances With Wolves was a movie that was turned down twice

0:34:14 > 0:34:17by the studios.

0:34:17 > 0:34:20I guess I didn't hear them the first time.

0:34:20 > 0:34:23And you directed Dances With Wolves.

0:34:23 > 0:34:26I have directed three movies,

0:34:26 > 0:34:28mostly stuff with horses.

0:34:28 > 0:34:31- LAUGHTER - Brilliant.

0:34:31 > 0:34:34You can't imagine how you would inspire. I remember when

0:34:34 > 0:34:36Dances With Wolves came out, I was at drama school,

0:34:36 > 0:34:40and how inspiring it was for all of us to see that movie, to know that

0:34:40 > 0:34:43you directed it and acted in it.

0:34:43 > 0:34:46- It blew our minds. I remember very distinctly.- That was...

0:34:46 > 0:34:48I gotta tell you...

0:34:48 > 0:34:52We all have friends you start with, and it's like who gets there first?

0:34:52 > 0:34:55Who gets to the finish line?

0:34:55 > 0:35:00There are a lot of friends behind us and you find a way to help them.

0:35:00 > 0:35:05One of my friends was a writer and I sent him on a lot of, you know, jobs

0:35:05 > 0:35:09and every report that came back was he just pissed everybody off.

0:35:09 > 0:35:11Finally he came over, he goes,

0:35:11 > 0:35:13"I hate Hollywood, I hate all you people."

0:35:13 > 0:35:16And I said, "I tried to help you, man.

0:35:16 > 0:35:19"Some of these people you're talking bad about

0:35:19 > 0:35:21"have become friends of mine.

0:35:21 > 0:35:25"And I don't understand this whole thing about Hollywood." I said...

0:35:25 > 0:35:28Even though a writer thinks the last thing they wrote was the best thing,

0:35:28 > 0:35:31I said, "Maybe it's just not good enough."

0:35:31 > 0:35:35He kind of said one more thing to me and it really crossed the line.

0:35:35 > 0:35:39He's a kid from the '60s, protest march and everything,

0:35:39 > 0:35:41and it is very easy to put Hollywood down.

0:35:41 > 0:35:44But he crossed the line with a friend and I don't know

0:35:44 > 0:35:46what happened but I had him up against the wall...

0:35:46 > 0:35:49LAUGHTER

0:35:49 > 0:35:54I said, "Would you just quit putting everybody down?

0:35:54 > 0:35:57"Quit writing things that are 120 pages long" -

0:35:57 > 0:36:00cos in our vernacular that means a script -

0:36:00 > 0:36:02I said, "If you really want to write,

0:36:02 > 0:36:05"write something that is 88 pages or 888."

0:36:05 > 0:36:08And I realised I had my hands on him. I set him down,

0:36:08 > 0:36:11I thought probably we had lost our friendship and a week later

0:36:11 > 0:36:14he said, "I don't have a place to stay, can I stay at your house?"

0:36:14 > 0:36:18So he stays there for a couple of months and is writing every night.

0:36:18 > 0:36:22He said, "Will you read what I wrote today?" I said, "Fuck, no."

0:36:22 > 0:36:24LAUGHTER

0:36:24 > 0:36:27This went on and finally he started reading to my daughter,

0:36:27 > 0:36:28who is three, every night.

0:36:28 > 0:36:31And finally my wife said, "Look, he's in his room,

0:36:31 > 0:36:34"reading to...and he has to go."

0:36:34 > 0:36:36I finally said, "You gotta go."

0:36:36 > 0:36:41So away he went. He left what he had written and he went to Arizona

0:36:41 > 0:36:43and was working in a Chinese restaurant.

0:36:43 > 0:36:46If you've ever worked in a Chinese restaurant, washing dishes -

0:36:46 > 0:36:47there's a lot of them.

0:36:47 > 0:36:51And he called me and said, "Have you read what I wrote?"

0:36:51 > 0:36:55I said, "No. I don't like you any more."

0:36:55 > 0:36:58He said, "I'm cold and I'm working at this place and I'm having to

0:36:58 > 0:37:01"kill raccoons and work at this Chinese restaurant."

0:37:01 > 0:37:04And I said...

0:37:04 > 0:37:07So I sent him a sleeping bag and stuff.

0:37:07 > 0:37:09And he said, "Did you read it?"

0:37:09 > 0:37:12Finally I read it and it was Dances With Wolves.

0:37:12 > 0:37:15- Oh... - AUDIENCE GASPS

0:37:15 > 0:37:17When you have that situation,

0:37:17 > 0:37:20somebody that you start with...

0:37:20 > 0:37:22I was never so proud of somebody.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25I said, "You did it, man, you really, really did it.

0:37:25 > 0:37:29"I don't know how I'm going to do it but I'll make it into a movie."

0:37:29 > 0:37:32And that was a story, actually, of a lot of my career,

0:37:32 > 0:37:34- so many of those movies. - That is amazing.

0:37:34 > 0:37:38- I had to push them up to the point...- It is extraordinary.

0:37:38 > 0:37:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:37:41 > 0:37:44- Did he get an Oscar as well? - He did, he did.

0:37:45 > 0:37:48To go from killing raccoons and washing dishes to winning an Oscar!

0:37:48 > 0:37:52It was already amazing before the punchline.

0:37:52 > 0:37:54I never help people!

0:37:54 > 0:37:56LAUGHTER

0:37:56 > 0:37:59No point, no point. Cut 'em off.

0:37:59 > 0:38:03LAUGHTER

0:38:03 > 0:38:06There is a thing in the DVD extras,

0:38:06 > 0:38:09where you're directing the film,

0:38:09 > 0:38:12but there's a bit where you're having to direct wolves.

0:38:12 > 0:38:18- And you were having to, like, encourage the wolves.- "Sit!"

0:38:18 > 0:38:22I tell you, I remember when we got these wolves, they were real wolves,

0:38:22 > 0:38:26and, I don't know, you ever think of salesmen,

0:38:26 > 0:38:29like...carpet things...

0:38:29 > 0:38:33- Vacuum cleaners. - Vacuum cleaner, got it.

0:38:33 > 0:38:37You're fired. You are the worst salesman ever!

0:38:37 > 0:38:41You always see them they come into your house and they throw ashes,

0:38:41 > 0:38:46and shit like that, and then go like that and it cleans it perfectly.

0:38:46 > 0:38:49And then you call your friends, and they throw the same shit

0:38:49 > 0:38:52on the floor and a stain is there.

0:38:52 > 0:38:55So, when I met the guy with the wolves,

0:38:55 > 0:38:57he showed me how they would behave,

0:38:57 > 0:39:00he would push a button and the wolf would come over here.

0:39:00 > 0:39:03But when I got out there, those wolves didn't do shit...

0:39:03 > 0:39:05LAUGHTER

0:39:05 > 0:39:07I was ten days over schedule,

0:39:07 > 0:39:1230 days into the movie, and they said, "What are you going to do?"

0:39:12 > 0:39:15I said, "I'm not going to change the namesake of the movie..."

0:39:15 > 0:39:18Dances With Dogs!

0:39:18 > 0:39:19LAUGHTER

0:39:19 > 0:39:25Listen, when it's your money you make everything.... You make them...

0:39:25 > 0:39:29They like their belly being rubbed, apparently.

0:39:29 > 0:39:32- What's that?- They like their belly being rubbed. No, it's true.

0:39:32 > 0:39:34Doesn't everyone?

0:39:34 > 0:39:38- But these are real wolves. - No, the real wolves do.

0:39:38 > 0:39:41My girlfriend got me a present to go with these wolves,

0:39:41 > 0:39:44they weren't tame but they were socialised.

0:39:44 > 0:39:46LAUGHTER

0:39:46 > 0:39:48That means they just don't kill you, yet.

0:39:48 > 0:39:51And they were huge. And they liked having their belly rubbed.

0:39:51 > 0:39:53I've tickled a wolf's belly.

0:39:53 > 0:39:56Was it the belly you were tickling?

0:39:56 > 0:39:57Ooh!

0:39:57 > 0:40:00LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:40:05 > 0:40:08Animal trainer extraordinaire.

0:40:08 > 0:40:12That is someone's job - inseminate... Sorry!

0:40:12 > 0:40:17You really broke down that wall, of actor-director.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20You were really the pioneer of that whole movement.

0:40:20 > 0:40:22We would not have Ben Affleck

0:40:22 > 0:40:25if it was not for the work you had done back then.

0:40:25 > 0:40:28Well, thank you.

0:40:28 > 0:40:32It was a highlight for me to do, and I went out there,

0:40:32 > 0:40:35and I tell you what was really weird,

0:40:35 > 0:40:37my parents came to watch me,

0:40:37 > 0:40:41just like I did when I was a little kid, playing sports.

0:40:41 > 0:40:43I used to be kind of embarrassed about it

0:40:43 > 0:40:45but it was an interesting thing.

0:40:45 > 0:40:47I went out there on my first day, to direct,

0:40:47 > 0:40:51and my parents took a trailer all the way to South Dakota,

0:40:51 > 0:40:55and my mom said, "We won't be in the way, we're not going to bother you."

0:40:55 > 0:40:59And I go, "Jesus Christ, really, you're coming?"

0:40:59 > 0:41:02They go, "Yes, but we're not going to bother you."

0:41:02 > 0:41:06I remember my first day, going out to direct and way up on a hill,

0:41:06 > 0:41:09my mom and dad set a trailer and had their two lawn chairs

0:41:09 > 0:41:12and my mom went like that.

0:41:12 > 0:41:14And I was walking up in front of the crew and I said...

0:41:14 > 0:41:16HE MOUTHS

0:41:16 > 0:41:21And, obviously, we are all Kevin Costner fans, but is it true,

0:41:21 > 0:41:24the story about getting the call from Stephen Hawking?

0:41:24 > 0:41:28Yeah. I got a call from this guy.

0:41:28 > 0:41:30How did you know it was him?

0:41:30 > 0:41:33LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:41:35 > 0:41:39I thought I knew who he was but he wanted to come and see me.

0:41:39 > 0:41:41So he comes into my driveway, big van,

0:41:41 > 0:41:44and they bring him out, and there's like nine people.

0:41:44 > 0:41:47And he comes into my living room

0:41:47 > 0:41:49and I didn't really know how to talk to him.

0:41:49 > 0:41:53He has an IQ of 169 and I have a 69 IQ.

0:41:53 > 0:41:58And you're trying to carry a conversation but it was difficult.

0:41:58 > 0:42:01And finally, I got a little hip to everything and I said, "What's up?

0:42:01 > 0:42:04"What do you want to know?"

0:42:04 > 0:42:06And he goes, "Well..."

0:42:06 > 0:42:08And he wanted to know about Whitney.

0:42:08 > 0:42:12In The Bodyguard. And I said, "Let's talk about that."

0:42:12 > 0:42:16If that's what this wants to be about, then that is what we will do.

0:42:16 > 0:42:19So we talked about Whitney for a while.

0:42:19 > 0:42:22And then he said he was going to go dancing.

0:42:22 > 0:42:23LAUGHTER

0:42:23 > 0:42:27That is one of the oddest stories we've ever had on the show

0:42:27 > 0:42:30- but I love it! - This is amazing!- So good!

0:42:30 > 0:42:32CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:42:32 > 0:42:35This is like a real chat show, like chat shows used to be.

0:42:35 > 0:42:38If this was in America, we'd be dressed up as wolves,

0:42:38 > 0:42:40dancing around

0:42:40 > 0:42:45- for a YouTube hit the next day. - That's quite a good idea...

0:42:45 > 0:42:48Listen, Kevin, good luck with Criminal.

0:42:48 > 0:42:51Thank you so much for coming to see us. Kevin Costner, everybody.

0:42:51 > 0:42:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:42:54 > 0:42:57OK, it's music time.

0:42:57 > 0:43:00This Grammy award-winning artist got into all our heads

0:43:00 > 0:43:04with the hit single All About That Bass. Tonight she's performing

0:43:04 > 0:43:07her new single No. It's Meghan Trainor, everyone!

0:43:07 > 0:43:10CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:10 > 0:43:13# I think it's so cute

0:43:13 > 0:43:17# And I think it's so sweet

0:43:17 > 0:43:21# How you let your friends encourage you

0:43:21 > 0:43:23# To try and talk to me

0:43:23 > 0:43:25# But let me stop you there

0:43:25 > 0:43:32# Oh, before you speak

0:43:32 > 0:43:34# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:43:34 > 0:43:35# My name is no

0:43:35 > 0:43:37# My sign is no

0:43:37 > 0:43:38# My number is no

0:43:38 > 0:43:39# You need to let it go

0:43:39 > 0:43:42# You need to let it go, need to let it go

0:43:42 > 0:43:44# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:43:44 > 0:43:46# My name is no

0:43:46 > 0:43:47# My sign is no

0:43:47 > 0:43:48My number is no

0:43:48 > 0:43:50# You need to let it go

0:43:50 > 0:43:52# You need to let it go, need to let it go

0:43:52 > 0:43:54# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:43:54 > 0:43:57# First you gonna say you ain't runnin' game

0:43:57 > 0:44:00# Thinkin' I'm believing every word

0:44:00 > 0:44:02# Call me beautiful, so original

0:44:02 > 0:44:05# Telling me I'm not like other girls

0:44:05 > 0:44:08# I was in my zone before you came along

0:44:08 > 0:44:10# Now I'm thinking maybe you should go

0:44:10 > 0:44:12# Blah, blah, blah

0:44:12 > 0:44:15# I be like nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:44:15 > 0:44:17# All my ladies, listen up

0:44:17 > 0:44:20# If that boy ain't giving up

0:44:20 > 0:44:22# Lick your lips and swing your hips

0:44:22 > 0:44:25# Girl, all you gotta say is

0:44:25 > 0:44:26# My name is no

0:44:26 > 0:44:28# My sign is no

0:44:28 > 0:44:29# My number is no

0:44:29 > 0:44:32# You need to let it go, you need to let it go

0:44:32 > 0:44:33# Need to let it go

0:44:33 > 0:44:35# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:44:35 > 0:44:37# My name is no

0:44:37 > 0:44:38# My sign is no

0:44:38 > 0:44:39# My number is no

0:44:39 > 0:44:42# You need to let it go, you need to let it go

0:44:42 > 0:44:43# Need to let it go

0:44:43 > 0:44:46# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:44:46 > 0:44:49# Thank you in advance, I don't wanna dance

0:44:49 > 0:44:51# I don't need your hands all over me

0:44:51 > 0:44:54# If I want a man, then I'mma get a man

0:44:54 > 0:44:56# But it's never my priority

0:44:56 > 0:44:59# I was in my zone before you came along

0:44:59 > 0:45:01# Don't want you to take this personal

0:45:01 > 0:45:03# Blah, blah, blah

0:45:03 > 0:45:06# I be like nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:45:06 > 0:45:08# All my ladies, listen up

0:45:08 > 0:45:11# If that boy ain't giving up

0:45:11 > 0:45:14# Lick your lips and swing your hips

0:45:14 > 0:45:16# All you gotta say is

0:45:16 > 0:45:17# My name is no

0:45:17 > 0:45:19# My sign is no

0:45:19 > 0:45:20# My number is no

0:45:20 > 0:45:23# You need to let it go, you need to let it go

0:45:23 > 0:45:24# Need to let it go

0:45:24 > 0:45:26# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:45:26 > 0:45:28# My name is no

0:45:28 > 0:45:29# My sign is no

0:45:29 > 0:45:30# My number is no

0:45:30 > 0:45:33# You need to let it go, you need to let it go

0:45:33 > 0:45:34# Need to let it go

0:45:34 > 0:45:36# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:45:36 > 0:45:39- # I'm feeling - Untouchable, untouchable

0:45:39 > 0:45:41- # I'm feeling - Untouchable, untouchable

0:45:41 > 0:45:44- # I'm feeling - Untouchable, untouchable

0:45:44 > 0:45:45# I'm feeling

0:45:47 > 0:45:49- # Untouchable, untouchable - I'm feeling

0:45:49 > 0:45:51# Untouchable, untouchable

0:45:51 > 0:45:55- # Untouchable - Untouchable, untouchable

0:45:55 > 0:45:57# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:45:57 > 0:46:00- # All my ladies, listen up - Said all my ladies

0:46:00 > 0:46:02- # If that boy ain't giving up - He ain't giving up

0:46:02 > 0:46:05- # Lick your lips and swing your hips - No, no

0:46:05 > 0:46:07- # No, no - Girl, all you gotta say is

0:46:09 > 0:46:11# My name is no

0:46:11 > 0:46:12# My sign is no

0:46:12 > 0:46:14- # My number is no - No, no, no, no

0:46:14 > 0:46:16# You need to let it go, you need to let it go

0:46:16 > 0:46:18# Need to let it go

0:46:18 > 0:46:20# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:46:20 > 0:46:21# My name is no

0:46:21 > 0:46:24# My sign is no

0:46:24 > 0:46:27# You need to let it go, you need to let it go

0:46:27 > 0:46:30- # Need to let it go - Nah to the ah to the no, no, no

0:46:30 > 0:46:33- # Untouchable, untouchable - I'm untouchable

0:46:33 > 0:46:35- # Untouchable, untouchable - Go away, please

0:46:35 > 0:46:37# Untouchable, untouchable

0:46:37 > 0:46:41# Nah to the ah to the no, no, no. #

0:46:41 > 0:46:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:46:45 > 0:46:48Meghan Trainor, everybody! Great job!

0:46:48 > 0:46:50Come and see us.

0:46:53 > 0:46:55Lovely to see you.

0:46:55 > 0:46:58Meghan Trainor!

0:46:58 > 0:47:01Come here. Have a seat.

0:47:01 > 0:47:03You sit down there, lovely.

0:47:03 > 0:47:05That's Meghan Trainor, that's everybody else.

0:47:05 > 0:47:07Waving, waving, waving.

0:47:07 > 0:47:10Now, I have a bit of paper here. Oh, yes, I have.

0:47:10 > 0:47:13- So that is the new single, No. - Right.

0:47:13 > 0:47:16- And that is out now?- Right now.

0:47:16 > 0:47:19But the album is out on May the 13th?

0:47:19 > 0:47:22You can preorder and get that song and another one, what!

0:47:22 > 0:47:23LAUGHTER

0:47:23 > 0:47:26- She's on it.- I'm good at this.

0:47:26 > 0:47:30- Are you exhausted after that? - Yeah, I am so not in shape.

0:47:30 > 0:47:34I really didn't do anything. Hi. What's up?

0:47:34 > 0:47:37- I am in shape. - LAUGHTER

0:47:37 > 0:47:40This is the shape that I like.

0:47:40 > 0:47:42Yeah.

0:47:44 > 0:47:47All right, that's enough of that, put it away.

0:47:47 > 0:47:50Thank you very much for coming to see us. I'm sorry we can't chat more

0:47:50 > 0:47:54but we are out of time. It has been an epic chat tonight.

0:47:54 > 0:47:57That is it, I'm afraid. No time for red chairs, either.

0:47:57 > 0:47:59- AUDIENCE:- Aww! - Shut up!

0:48:01 > 0:48:04That's mainly why we come on!

0:48:04 > 0:48:06"We didn't want to see them,

0:48:06 > 0:48:09"we wanted to see a woman from Slough in a chair!"

0:48:09 > 0:48:11LAUGHTER

0:48:11 > 0:48:16Please say a huge thank you to my guests -

0:48:16 > 0:48:18Meghan Trainor...

0:48:18 > 0:48:21Ricky Gervais...

0:48:21 > 0:48:24Eric Bana...

0:48:24 > 0:48:26Ewan McGregor...

0:48:26 > 0:48:29Dame Helen Mirren

0:48:29 > 0:48:30and Kevin Costner.

0:48:30 > 0:48:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:48:33 > 0:48:36Join me next week with Eurovision hopefuls Joe and Jake,

0:48:36 > 0:48:38actress Keeley Hawes, the charming Hugh Grant

0:48:38 > 0:48:40and the great Meryl Streep. I will see you then.

0:48:40 > 0:48:42Good night, everybody, bye-bye!

0:48:42 > 0:48:46CHEERING AND APPLAUSE