0:00:02 > 0:00:05Hi, I'm Nicole Kidman and this is The Graham Norton Show.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23Oh! Oh!
0:00:25 > 0:00:26Hello! Hello!
0:00:26 > 0:00:31Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34Oh! So nice to see you all.
0:00:35 > 0:00:37Very nice to see you and, frankly,
0:00:37 > 0:00:40I'm just glad you all got here despite the train strike.
0:00:40 > 0:00:43Well done, you. Very good.
0:00:43 > 0:00:44Now to be fair to Southern,
0:00:44 > 0:00:48they did manage to have some trains running during the strike.
0:00:48 > 0:00:52We've got a picture of the 7.42 from Brighton. There it is.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59Not a joke.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02The service though has been so bad.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05I mean, one passenger decided to end it all.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07I'm not sure he chose the right method.
0:01:07 > 0:01:12Yeah. Any day now. Still depressed.
0:01:13 > 0:01:17Meanwhile, meanwhile, in other news, President-elect Donald Trump
0:01:17 > 0:01:21has had a meeting with rap superstar Kanye West.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25Oh! A meeting of minds.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28If only walls could talk.
0:01:28 > 0:01:30They'd say, "Piss off, tossers."
0:01:31 > 0:01:34There are rumours, there are rumours that Trump met Kanye to
0:01:34 > 0:01:37try and convince him to play at his inauguration.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40Sadly, his only other booking cancelled on him.
0:01:40 > 0:01:44Yeah. Sad times.
0:01:44 > 0:01:46Listen, we've got a great sofa for you tonight.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48Later we'll be joined by one of my chat show heroes,
0:01:48 > 0:01:51the great Sir Michael Parkinson will be here. Yeah.
0:01:51 > 0:01:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:01:53 > 0:01:56Talking about his interviews with Muhammad Ali
0:01:56 > 0:01:59and we'll have music from singer-songwriter Jack Savoretti.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01We love Jack Savoretti on the show. All right.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03Let's get the first guests on.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06She's a writer, actor and comedian
0:02:06 > 0:02:08and without doubt Dibley's greatest ever vicar.
0:02:08 > 0:02:11Now she's starring in the sexy new drama Delicious,
0:02:11 > 0:02:17it's always a pleasure to welcome back Dawn French, everybody! Yey!
0:02:17 > 0:02:20Oh, Dawn French.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- Hi! You're so Christmassy. - Thank you.- Christmassy.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25Have a seat, do.
0:02:25 > 0:02:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:02:27 > 0:02:32She was Oscar-nominated for her role as Stephen Hawking's wife
0:02:32 > 0:02:34in The Theory Of Everything and now she's every nerd's fantasy.
0:02:34 > 0:02:39She's in Star Wars and she's a woman, it's Felicity Jones!
0:02:39 > 0:02:41Yey!
0:02:41 > 0:02:45Hello! It's so nice to have you on the show. Really nice to see you.
0:02:45 > 0:02:49- I've been looking forward to this. - You sit in there, Felicity Jones.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52He went from a breakout performance in Slumdog Millionaire to
0:02:52 > 0:02:56The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel and is now Golden Globe-nominated
0:02:56 > 0:03:01for his role in Lion, it's Dev Patel, everybody! Hey!
0:03:01 > 0:03:05Welcome back to the show. Lovely to see you. Have a seat, do.
0:03:07 > 0:03:12And also Golden Globe-nominated for Lion, she's the Oscar-winning
0:03:12 > 0:03:16actress whose films include To Die For, Moulin Rouge and The Hours,
0:03:16 > 0:03:20please welcome the best Aussie export you can't drink, Nicole Kidman!
0:03:22 > 0:03:27- Hello. Lovely to see you. Have a seat, do.- Thanks.- Whoo!
0:03:30 > 0:03:34Oh! Look at you all, shiny...
0:03:34 > 0:03:38I've already mentioned the shoe, but those biker boots are fantastic.
0:03:38 > 0:03:41- Check 'em out.- Check them out, yeah.
0:03:41 > 0:03:43They don't go with this dress, but I love them so much
0:03:43 > 0:03:45- that I'm wearing them anyway. - No, you're making it work.
0:03:45 > 0:03:49- It's all working.- They so do go with that dress. Kinda. Kinda. Yeah.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52Do you realise that your legs are like as...
0:03:52 > 0:03:54You've got as much leg as I've got actual body.
0:03:56 > 0:04:01- Stand up for a minute.- Come on! - No, stand up. Look. Look. Look.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03Stand up. Look. Look.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07Look at that.
0:04:10 > 0:04:16Sorry, guys. Sorry. I sort of want aliens to arrive right now,
0:04:16 > 0:04:19so they can see us women come in many, many shapes.
0:04:21 > 0:04:23Now, welcome back to everyone apart from Felicity,
0:04:23 > 0:04:27- first time for Felicity on the show. - It is indeed. Hi, everyone.
0:04:27 > 0:04:29You made me panic then, because you looked at me like I was lying
0:04:29 > 0:04:32and I was thinking, "Shit! Has she been on before and I've forgotten?"
0:04:32 > 0:04:34No, you haven't been here before.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- No, no, never before, it's my first time.- Lovely.
0:04:37 > 0:04:39So you're not aware of the initiation ceremony?
0:04:39 > 0:04:43Where your head goes down a toilet
0:04:43 > 0:04:46and you always follow it with buying jewellery for the elder
0:04:46 > 0:04:50female members. That's what we do, isn't it? On your show.
0:04:50 > 0:04:53- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right. Yeah, yeah.- OK.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56Dev's gone all showbiz. You're in LA now.
0:04:56 > 0:05:01- Yes.- Yes, you are. - Hardly showbiz, but, yeah.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04It's beyond showbiz. It's meta-showbiz.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06But are you back here for Christmas though?
0:05:06 > 0:05:09I'm actually dragging the Patel family to my house in LA
0:05:09 > 0:05:10- for the first time.- OK.
0:05:10 > 0:05:14So I'm bringing my dad and my mum and my sister and my best
0:05:14 > 0:05:18- friend from India.- It'll be nice. - Are you cooking?- No.
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- That idea is just funny.- I might bring some Nando's from London.
0:05:23 > 0:05:27- Do you know Nando's? - No.- Oh, OK.
0:05:27 > 0:05:29We'll talk about that later.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32Yeah, Dev's got the gold card.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35Now, lots of really great things to talk about tonight.
0:05:35 > 0:05:39We will start with two, not one, TWO Golden Globe nominations and
0:05:39 > 0:05:43both Screen Actor Guild nominations as well - it's all going well -
0:05:43 > 0:05:45for Nicole and Dev's performances in Lion.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48Now, this movie is out on 20th January.
0:05:48 > 0:05:52Before we talk about it, here's a flavour of what it's about.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56- Let's start with where you're from. - Calcutta.- Which part?- I'm adopted.
0:05:56 > 0:05:59I'm not really Indian. I'm starting to remember.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02Saroo, our beautiful boy.
0:06:03 > 0:06:04'A life I'd forgotten.'
0:06:04 > 0:06:07- Saroo!- Are you OK?
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- I had another family. - What happened?
0:06:13 > 0:06:14I was lost.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18HE SHOUTS
0:06:18 > 0:06:21I have to find my way back home.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24- How long were you on the train? - A couple of days.- A couple of days.
0:06:24 > 0:06:28It will take a lifetime to search all the stations in India.
0:06:29 > 0:06:32Do you have any idea what it's like?
0:06:32 > 0:06:34How every day my real brother screams my name?
0:06:34 > 0:06:39- Saroo!- I always thought that I could keep this family together.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42What if you do find home and they're not even there,
0:06:42 > 0:06:43will you just keep searching?
0:06:44 > 0:06:47I don't have a choice.
0:06:58 > 0:07:00I can't look at it.
0:07:01 > 0:07:07Dawn and I have seen it and we were welling up watching the trailer.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10- It is a beautiful, beautiful film. - It really is.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13It's an extraordinary true story and...
0:07:13 > 0:07:16I mean, because it's about an Indian boy who gets adopted by an
0:07:16 > 0:07:19Australian family. In Australia, were you familiar with the story?
0:07:19 > 0:07:22Was it in the news? Was it a well-known story?
0:07:22 > 0:07:26It had been on 60 Minutes, but I wasn't familiar with it.
0:07:26 > 0:07:31And then I sort of researched it and was astounded that it was true,
0:07:31 > 0:07:35because what actually happens in the film, you can't believe that it's true.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38- I played Dev's mum.- And, Dev, you... - Yes!
0:07:38 > 0:07:40LAUGHTER
0:07:40 > 0:07:42- My boy.- Don't make it wrong, Dev.
0:07:45 > 0:07:47I still love you, Mum.
0:07:49 > 0:07:53Now, you play the adoptive mother, Sue...
0:07:53 > 0:07:55- I do, yeah.- ..in the film.
0:07:55 > 0:07:56And...
0:07:58 > 0:08:02- He's so cute!- He's so cute, that little boy. We'll talk about him
0:08:02 > 0:08:03in a minute, but you have, in the film,
0:08:03 > 0:08:08that amazing speech, which must break the heart of anyone who's ever
0:08:08 > 0:08:14adopted a child, about why you chose to adopt the two boys you adopted.
0:08:14 > 0:08:20Yeah, she had a vision when she was in her early teens and she
0:08:20 > 0:08:26just decided that that was her life mission, was to adopt.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29Well, initially it was one child, it turned into two children,
0:08:29 > 0:08:34but she could have children, it's not that she couldn't give
0:08:34 > 0:08:37birth to a child, she just, that wasn't going to be her path,
0:08:37 > 0:08:40she wanted to adopt and as a woman,
0:08:40 > 0:08:46to be in that maternal force is just a wonderful place to exist in.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48I mean, I love being a mum. You're a mum, Dawn.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- Yeah, I'm a mum to an adopted kid. - Yeah.
0:08:51 > 0:08:56So that maternal force is a beautiful place to exist in.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58And, Dev, a lot of preparation for this.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01Was most of your preparation just trying to be as much like the
0:09:01 > 0:09:02real Saroo as you could?
0:09:02 > 0:09:08Erm...kind of, yeah, as soon as I got the role, they were, like,
0:09:08 > 0:09:12"You look like a celery stick, so you need to put on some weight."
0:09:12 > 0:09:15LAUGHTER Charming(!)
0:09:15 > 0:09:18Yeah, so I had to grow out my hair and all this and then I had to
0:09:18 > 0:09:23go to the gym, which is like a very foreign thing for me to do.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25I'm very vocal in the gym as well, I've realised.
0:09:25 > 0:09:29I'm not the best at pushing iron, but...
0:09:29 > 0:09:31Are you THAT guy, the guy who makes all those noises?
0:09:31 > 0:09:34"Argh!" Yeah, I'm like Woody Allen in the gym.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36But, you know,
0:09:36 > 0:09:39that was eight months of that and the dialect coaching and then I
0:09:39 > 0:09:44got to travel around India on these trains and go to these orphanages.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47It became a really kind of nourishing process for us all.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50As great as both of you are, you are both fabulous in it,
0:09:50 > 0:09:53- we must talk about this little boy, Sunny.- Sunny!
0:09:53 > 0:09:56- I mean, he's sort of half the film. - He is so cute.- Look at him.
0:09:56 > 0:09:59- Look at him.- Amazing. - Just a light, that child.
0:09:59 > 0:10:03So they found him from 2,000 children in an open casting call
0:10:03 > 0:10:06and he'd never been on a plane before,
0:10:06 > 0:10:10he'd never seen a Hollywood film and he carries this...
0:10:10 > 0:10:13He'd never seen a film until two weeks ago when he saw this film.
0:10:13 > 0:10:18- Which he's in!- He's watched it, like, three times.- This has really messed with his mind.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22"Haven't you seen a film? Oh, you're not in this one?"
0:10:22 > 0:10:24That's adorable!
0:10:24 > 0:10:26And is he travelling the world with you?
0:10:26 > 0:10:29- Is he going to do red carpets and things?- Yeah, he loves it actually.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32He didn't speak any English when he arrived
0:10:32 > 0:10:33and he speaks it quite well now.
0:10:33 > 0:10:37Now his translator just stands to the side and he's answering his own questions.
0:10:37 > 0:10:40He met Bill Clinton in New York, he came to our premiere and Sunny's
0:10:40 > 0:10:43just standing there and we're all, like, shaking and he's just,
0:10:43 > 0:10:45like, you know, looking at this guy and I'm, like,
0:10:45 > 0:10:48how do I explain to this kid? I don't speak Hindi, how do I
0:10:48 > 0:10:51explain to him the magnitude of who he's standing next to?
0:10:51 > 0:10:55So there's this big Bollywood superstar called Amitabh Bachchan and he's, like, massive.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58I'm, like, "Sunny, that's, that's Americans' Amitabh Bachchan,"
0:10:58 > 0:11:03and he's, like... He kind of, like, straightened up a bit.
0:11:03 > 0:11:06They took to Gap in New York
0:11:06 > 0:11:10and he picked out this bright red puffer jacket, and so he's walking
0:11:10 > 0:11:15around in his Q&As with these sunglasses and this puffer jacket.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18- Yeah.- And all these people were involved,
0:11:18 > 0:11:23all the real people are involved. Is that too much though?
0:11:23 > 0:11:27Does it inhibit you when you're then recreating these scenes,
0:11:27 > 0:11:30knowing that these real people will see these things?
0:11:30 > 0:11:33I mean, I personally didn't want Sue,
0:11:33 > 0:11:38who's become a very good friend of mine and I love her,
0:11:38 > 0:11:40I didn't want her sitting there when I was doing every scene,
0:11:40 > 0:11:45because I felt a bit shy actually and intimidated.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48Of course, Felicity, Oscar-nominated for playing Stephen Hawking's
0:11:48 > 0:11:51wife, so you've been in this situation. You've been with
0:11:51 > 0:11:53this woman you're portraying.
0:11:53 > 0:11:56So do you have a similar experience or was it...?
0:11:56 > 0:11:58Well, it's quite interesting,
0:11:58 > 0:12:02it's important that you get almost the person's permission, that
0:12:02 > 0:12:06you feel like they... You kind of go through a little bit,
0:12:06 > 0:12:10I felt playing Jane, a little bit of a trial period where we went,
0:12:10 > 0:12:14Eddie and I went and spent some time with her and had dinner with
0:12:14 > 0:12:19her and it did feel like it was much harder than any audition we'd
0:12:19 > 0:12:21ever done in our entire lives,
0:12:21 > 0:12:22because you sort of feel, you know,
0:12:22 > 0:12:27you need the nod of approval from the person at the end,
0:12:27 > 0:12:29because they are, they're giving their lives up,
0:12:29 > 0:12:32they're giving their lives up for everyone to see,
0:12:32 > 0:12:36so you sort of want somehow for there to be an exchange, that you're going
0:12:36 > 0:12:39to look after their story in some way, which I imagine was similar.
0:12:39 > 0:12:41- Trust, yeah.- Exactly.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44Eddie has talked about meeting Stephen Hawking and sort of
0:12:44 > 0:12:48- hanging out and you hung out as well, didn't you?- We did, we did.
0:12:48 > 0:12:51Stephen came to set and we were very,
0:12:51 > 0:12:56very nervous and we're sort of trying to, going over the lines
0:12:56 > 0:12:58and wanted to do our best version of the take and doing these
0:12:58 > 0:13:03performances and then, afterwards, and they shouted, "Cut!"
0:13:03 > 0:13:07And we thought, you know, we were just anxiously waiting for what Stephen would think and
0:13:07 > 0:13:10he said, he wrote down and we were kind of anxiously waiting, and
0:13:10 > 0:13:15he said, "Would Felicity, please, be able to come and give me a kiss?"
0:13:16 > 0:13:19Hello! LAUGHTER
0:13:19 > 0:13:23And what's wonderful about Stephen is he doesn't take himself
0:13:23 > 0:13:26- seriously at all. - I'd say he was quite serious.
0:13:28 > 0:13:31I don't think there was a joke in that note.
0:13:31 > 0:13:34That was a, "Get her over here and make her kiss me."
0:13:35 > 0:13:40I was hoping he meant in a kind of sort of, you know, avuncular, maybe fatherly way.
0:13:40 > 0:13:42Let's hope that, yeah.
0:13:45 > 0:13:47Very quickly, we don't want to make anyone cry,
0:13:47 > 0:13:51but sad days in the publishing world in Australia.
0:13:51 > 0:13:56I don't know if you're aware of this, but I'm afraid Dolly magazine
0:13:56 > 0:14:01has shut its doors, Nicole. Dolly magazine is no more.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03Dolly magazine was very important to you when you were starting out,
0:14:03 > 0:14:09- wasn't it? Yeah.- Yeah. I got on the cover of Dolly magazine.- Here we go.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13There you are on the cover. Yeah! Looking stunning.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15They've got a giant...
0:14:15 > 0:14:19- Are you being facetious? - No! You look fabulous!
0:14:19 > 0:14:23They dyed my hair red, I was only, like, 14.
0:14:23 > 0:14:24It wasn't red like that.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27Everyone always thinks it was that red like that and it wasn't.
0:14:27 > 0:14:28No, they dyed it red.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31- Inside there are some fabulous high-fashion shots of you.- Oh, God!
0:14:31 > 0:14:33No, this is beautiful.
0:14:33 > 0:14:38This just gives you an idea of the quality of fashion in Dolly
0:14:38 > 0:14:42magazine. That is a lovely...
0:14:42 > 0:14:48It's a lovely shiny jacket and I have to say, these rope seams,
0:14:48 > 0:14:51I'm not sure they ever caught on, the rope seam.
0:14:51 > 0:14:53I've never seen them before in my life.
0:14:53 > 0:14:57- But this next picture, you can tell. - Oh, God! You're brutal!
0:14:57 > 0:15:00There's only one more. So...
0:15:00 > 0:15:05I wish, I honestly wish my hair was like that now. It's so dreadful.
0:15:05 > 0:15:09Because, I have to say, anyone that has curly hair that's young,
0:15:09 > 0:15:12keep your curly hair, don't straighten it,
0:15:12 > 0:15:16- because after a while, you don't get your curls back.- Really?
0:15:16 > 0:15:19No, they just, they kind of become just frizz mass.
0:15:19 > 0:15:23I mean, that is frizz mass but I kind of like that.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26Yeah, it's gone, so I'm like an old woman now,
0:15:26 > 0:15:28where I say, "Don't dye your hair!
0:15:28 > 0:15:31"And don't straighten your curls!"
0:15:31 > 0:15:34I like that idea, you know photographers in movies,
0:15:34 > 0:15:37when they're doing fashion, they're always like, "Look sexy,"
0:15:37 > 0:15:41or, "Give me..." something, give me this, or, try this.
0:15:41 > 0:15:42- Dah-dah-dah.- Yeah.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- What had the photographer said... - Oh, you're so mean!
0:15:45 > 0:15:46..before this picture?
0:15:46 > 0:15:48Why aren't you doing this to anybody...
0:15:48 > 0:15:51LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:15:56 > 0:15:59APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
0:16:00 > 0:16:02You look great.
0:16:06 > 0:16:08"Is this the sort of thing you're after?"
0:16:10 > 0:16:13I think the photographer just said, "Can I see your pants?"
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- I thought you were going to say something rude then.- No, no.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20We'll take it away, we'll take it away, there you go.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22Dolly magazine, RIP.
0:16:22 > 0:16:25Now, Felicity Jones.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28This, I mean, must be the most eagerly awaited movie of the year.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.
0:16:30 > 0:16:33It's out now, it's a stand-alone film in the Star Wars saga.
0:16:33 > 0:16:38- It's before the first Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford one.- Exactly. Yeah.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40- This is this movie. - And we lead into that story.
0:16:40 > 0:16:42OK, so, who are you in Rogue One?
0:16:42 > 0:16:47So I play Jyn Erso, who is a rebel fighter,
0:16:47 > 0:16:50who is a real, kind of, real outsider.
0:16:50 > 0:16:53She's very much on the fringes of society,
0:16:53 > 0:16:57she's a bit of a delinquent, she goes around causing trouble.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01And throughout the film we see this woman slowly actually learning
0:17:01 > 0:17:06how to, how to not be such a delinquent and become a leader,
0:17:06 > 0:17:09and to embrace the other rebels, and they unite.
0:17:09 > 0:17:13They're a very disparate band, but it's their differences in the end
0:17:13 > 0:17:15that make them stronger
0:17:15 > 0:17:17and they're able to steal the plans to the Death Star.
0:17:17 > 0:17:23And where there are nerd fans, there are nerd tattoos.
0:17:23 > 0:17:26And I believe you've had your first nerd tattoo?
0:17:26 > 0:17:30Yes, yes, I came across, um...
0:17:30 > 0:17:33a, uh, a...a male.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38Just say it, Felicity, just say it.
0:17:38 > 0:17:43Who has had the character of Jyn tattooed onto his...
0:17:43 > 0:17:46- It's you, he's had you tattooed. - Well, I've...
0:17:46 > 0:17:50Yes, I guess, me as Jyn, tattooed onto his calf.
0:17:50 > 0:17:52Oh, I was really worried for a second!
0:17:52 > 0:17:55I was. I was.
0:17:55 > 0:17:57I guess he's got a big calf.
0:17:57 > 0:17:58Yeah! Cos I...
0:17:58 > 0:18:00I know we've got a picture of it,
0:18:00 > 0:18:02I'm thinking, I don't think we can show that.
0:18:05 > 0:18:09- Here's, here you are.- That was very...- Here you are on a calf.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12- DAWN:- Oh, my goodness! - DEV:- Wow, man.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14Oh, I see, there's his ankles. OK.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16That's amazing.
0:18:16 > 0:18:18It's actually kind of an oddly good likeness for a tattoo.
0:18:18 > 0:18:22Yeah, I'm just worried about what happens when the hair grows back.
0:18:25 > 0:18:29- I'm going to be a bearded lady. - It's Planet Of The Apes now.
0:18:33 > 0:18:35We've got a clip.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37This is your character towards the beginning of the story,
0:18:37 > 0:18:39being rescued.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45- What now?- I don't know.
0:18:45 > 0:18:46Must be another pick-up.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49I thought we had everybody?
0:18:49 > 0:18:50METALLIC CLANG
0:18:56 > 0:18:59- All clear, sir. - SHOUTING
0:18:59 > 0:19:01Her.
0:19:01 > 0:19:02You want to get out of here?
0:19:03 > 0:19:05Hey, what about me?
0:19:18 > 0:19:23Congratulations. You are being rescued. Please do not resist.
0:19:23 > 0:19:25Wow! APPLAUSE
0:19:29 > 0:19:31It's got everything we want, everything you want.
0:19:31 > 0:19:37It is proper kick ass, you are not the girl in the film at all.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39No, we'd all come home after work
0:19:39 > 0:19:44and we'd just be completely covered in bruises and scratches and scars.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46But do you get... I know, because I've seen it.
0:19:46 > 0:19:51- You don't get the lightsaber.- No. - Which must have been disappointing.
0:19:51 > 0:19:52It was, actually.
0:19:52 > 0:19:56It was a bit, you know, at first, I thought, you're in Star Wars,
0:19:56 > 0:19:58you kind of expect to have a lightsaber but no,
0:19:58 > 0:20:01she actually has a small stick that she fights with.
0:20:03 > 0:20:06It's more exciting than it sounds.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09You need to rephrase that, that sounds really piss poor.
0:20:10 > 0:20:14Yeah, it's... it's kind of like a baton,
0:20:14 > 0:20:18a sort of truncheon and she has it on her belt,
0:20:18 > 0:20:20and she has a special move
0:20:20 > 0:20:24where she kind of unleashes it and then she's able to, just,
0:20:24 > 0:20:26you know, take down a few stormtroopers with it.
0:20:26 > 0:20:28But it is just a stick.
0:20:28 > 0:20:30Are you a lethal weapon in yourself, walking down the street?
0:20:30 > 0:20:34- Could you take people out? - I mean, any moment. Any moment now.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40Has it made you feel different, knowing that you could just go...
0:20:40 > 0:20:43I think, yeah, I think it does. I think it does.
0:20:43 > 0:20:44You do martial arts?
0:20:44 > 0:20:47No, don't drag me into this. Please.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50- I'm surprised.- You do, don't you?
0:20:50 > 0:20:54- Oh, man, are you going to pull up a terrible picture?- No.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58I have to say, they showed me the terrible pictures, I thought,
0:20:58 > 0:21:00we can't show that. Honestly, you thought that was bad,
0:21:00 > 0:21:03you should see his martial arts pictures.
0:21:06 > 0:21:09- But, now...- Oh...- What? What?
0:21:09 > 0:21:11- No!- What?
0:21:11 > 0:21:14Were you going to challenge him to a fight? I wasn't.
0:21:14 > 0:21:17- I want Dev to do it back there. - No, I don't, no, no, no.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20- He does flips and everything. - Do you do flips?!- Yeah.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22- You've been very quiet about this. - I don't do flips!
0:21:24 > 0:21:27Unbelievable, you should see him. Come on, Dev.
0:21:29 > 0:21:31- Come on.- No, no, no, no.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33CHEERING
0:21:35 > 0:21:37INAUDIBLE SPEECH
0:21:37 > 0:21:41There's no entertainment happening, I'm sorry.
0:21:41 > 0:21:42The rest of the press tour
0:21:42 > 0:21:44is now going to be people trying to make you do backflips.
0:21:44 > 0:21:48So, being in big movies is one thing, but being in something like this,
0:21:48 > 0:21:50where you've got to, do you have to,
0:21:50 > 0:21:54do you have to sign all legal things? And secrecy and...
0:21:54 > 0:22:00Yeah, it is quite, it is quite a burden for two years, definitely,
0:22:00 > 0:22:05the whole cast, we all watched the film a few, a couple of weeks ago.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08And it was finally, sort of, a feeling of collective relief
0:22:08 > 0:22:12that at some point we would be able to actually talk about it.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14Rather than, sort of...
0:22:14 > 0:22:16Your friends ask you about what's happening in the film
0:22:16 > 0:22:19and you sort of, sort of, you really want to tell them
0:22:19 > 0:22:22but you have to really keep your mouth shut because you don't,
0:22:22 > 0:22:25you know, you don't want to break all these nondisclosure agreements.
0:22:25 > 0:22:30I always wonder, because people talk about this, what happens if you do?
0:22:30 > 0:22:32You are killed.
0:22:34 > 0:22:35By a small stick.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41Talking of Star Wars, Dawn and Jennifer, they strike again.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43CHEERING
0:22:43 > 0:22:46- Uh-oh.- I'm not sure if Lucasfilm...
0:22:46 > 0:22:48Do Lucasfilm, did you have to get permission to do these?
0:22:48 > 0:22:50Don't know.
0:22:51 > 0:22:53I'm about to be killed.
0:22:53 > 0:22:57- We've got a picture of Dawn, are you Toby-Jugs Kenobi?- Yes.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59This is you as Toby-Jugs Kenobi.
0:23:01 > 0:23:03- With Jennifer.- That's amazing.
0:23:03 > 0:23:05That is amazing.
0:23:07 > 0:23:09You also, I love this one,
0:23:09 > 0:23:12- you did Princess Panty-Padme?- Yes.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14Panty-Padme. That's right.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21It was good fun, I have to say.
0:23:21 > 0:23:22I had, you know,
0:23:22 > 0:23:26I had three handmaidens when I played Panty-Padme,
0:23:26 > 0:23:29and that's the eldest handmaiden, and that is Jennifer's daughter.
0:23:29 > 0:23:31Who is my goddaughter, that's Ella,
0:23:31 > 0:23:34- who's got three children now, for heaven's sake.- You're kidding!
0:23:34 > 0:23:36- She's a little bairn there.- Wow.
0:23:36 > 0:23:40And perhaps our favourite, this is Dawn as Grand Master Skoda.
0:23:43 > 0:23:46I've got flippers! Flippers!
0:23:47 > 0:23:49I just noticed them!
0:23:51 > 0:23:54- Oh, funny.- Awesome.- Happy days.
0:23:54 > 0:23:58Now, people who like Dawn French, ooh, treats, treats, treats.
0:23:58 > 0:24:01- You're on telly twice in the holiday season.- I am.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04Your last stage show, Thirty Million Minutes,
0:24:04 > 0:24:09- that's televised on BBC Four at 9pm on New Year's Eve.- That's right.
0:24:09 > 0:24:11And is that a straightforward filming of the stage show?
0:24:11 > 0:24:16It is, it's absolutely unadulterated, the whole length of it.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18Because I tried to work out how we could cut bits out
0:24:18 > 0:24:21but there's a kind of narrative thread...woven into it,
0:24:21 > 0:24:23so I wanted it to be exactly as I performed it live.
0:24:23 > 0:24:27- But how lovely, though, to have a permanent record of that.- Yeah.
0:24:27 > 0:24:32Now, your new drama series Delicious starts on Sky1 at 9pm
0:24:32 > 0:24:35- on the night before that, on 30th December.- Yes.
0:24:35 > 0:24:39This is, I mean, it's a new, it's a new sort of Dawn,
0:24:39 > 0:24:42- it's a new sort of performance for you.- It is, yeah.
0:24:42 > 0:24:46Well, it's a drama, and, um, Emilia Fox and I play two characters
0:24:46 > 0:24:51who...we sort of share the same man, that sounds odd.
0:24:51 > 0:24:55But I play his ex-wife and Emilia plays his present wife.
0:24:55 > 0:24:58And the man is played by Iain Glen.
0:24:58 > 0:25:00And he's a chef, a celebrity chef,
0:25:00 > 0:25:03and although she's the new wife, she's very suspicious of him,
0:25:03 > 0:25:07because, of course, he cheated on me with her.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10And she imagines that he's having an affair
0:25:10 > 0:25:12and she gathers lots of evidence
0:25:12 > 0:25:15and it turns out that he is indeed having an affair.
0:25:15 > 0:25:17With me.
0:25:17 > 0:25:19- Ooh!- I'm not giving you too many spoilers there
0:25:19 > 0:25:22- because there are many other things happening. - No, that happens so quick.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24There's lots of intrigue and plot twists and everything.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27- Yeah.- And it's really interesting to see you do things
0:25:27 > 0:25:32- that we've seen you do before for laughs...- Yes.
0:25:32 > 0:25:35- But now, you know, because there's lovemaking.- There is.
0:25:35 > 0:25:37But very sensual lovemaking.
0:25:37 > 0:25:40It is, yeah. That's weird, isn't it? When you do that on film.
0:25:40 > 0:25:43You guys would know about that, you know, I'm quite new to that.
0:25:43 > 0:25:45Did quite enjoy it, I have to say.
0:25:47 > 0:25:51- It is Iain Glen, for heaven's sakes. - Yes, you see a lot of Iain Glen.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54You see a lot of him, you do get to see his bottom which is very nice.
0:25:54 > 0:25:59Female director, so I'm not the one that's showing much of the flesh,
0:25:59 > 0:26:02he is the one showing a lot of the flesh,
0:26:02 > 0:26:05and because the food is very important in this show,
0:26:05 > 0:26:08the food is at the centre of everything and my character is
0:26:08 > 0:26:10a feeder, literally, a feeder,
0:26:10 > 0:26:13she controls people with food and she's very sensual around the food.
0:26:13 > 0:26:16And they've shared the food and their love of it for years.
0:26:16 > 0:26:19So the food is part of the lovemaking.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22So, you know, I'm happy, because obviously I will do sex for food.
0:26:25 > 0:26:28We have a clip, this is you and your ex-husband Iain Glen
0:26:28 > 0:26:31- rekindling your romance.- Oh, OK.
0:26:37 > 0:26:38Leo.
0:26:40 > 0:26:41Hi.
0:26:41 > 0:26:42No, thanks.
0:27:06 > 0:27:07Sam!
0:27:13 > 0:27:15Oooh!
0:27:15 > 0:27:17APPLAUSE
0:27:23 > 0:27:25Now, I love the way papers kind of respond to things.
0:27:25 > 0:27:29They got very overexcited about your new look.
0:27:29 > 0:27:31I know, what is going on about that?
0:27:31 > 0:27:35- New look?- Really the difference is a little bit of kink in the hair
0:27:35 > 0:27:37and no fringe.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40So, really, in order to get the papers excited about your new look,
0:27:40 > 0:27:42this is what you have to do.
0:27:42 > 0:27:44That. That's it.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47That's new, amazing me.
0:27:47 > 0:27:50Brave, give me an award for acting.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53And then, that's me, just back to me.
0:27:53 > 0:27:56She's a chameleon, ladies and gentlemen, a chameleon!
0:27:59 > 0:28:02Incredible. Right. Let's meet our next guest.
0:28:02 > 0:28:04He is quite simply a chat show legend
0:28:04 > 0:28:06and now he's written a book about
0:28:06 > 0:28:09one of his most famous guests, Muhammad Ali.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12Please welcome Sir Michael Parkinson, everybody.
0:28:12 > 0:28:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:28:16 > 0:28:19- Hello, sir. You're very welcome.- Hi. - Please sit down next to Nicole.
0:28:25 > 0:28:28Have a seat, no, you're in that one. No, no, you're there.
0:28:30 > 0:28:34- How quickly you forget.- I know! I had to wrestle him off my chair.
0:28:36 > 0:28:40- How are you, are you well? - Good, thank you, excellent.
0:28:40 > 0:28:42So, of course, you have interviewed Nicole before.
0:28:42 > 0:28:43- I have, a couple of times.- Yeah.
0:28:43 > 0:28:46We met in a lift in Sydney, I think, was the first time, many years ago.
0:28:46 > 0:28:50My second home, Sydney. I saw the movie, by the way.
0:28:50 > 0:28:53And I think it's very good indeed, I really enjoyed it.
0:28:53 > 0:28:56- We have not met. Nice to meet you. - Hi, I'm Felicity.
0:28:56 > 0:28:59And as for you. Did you see her kissing that man in that scene?
0:28:59 > 0:29:01Dawn, yes.
0:29:01 > 0:29:03Guests used to refuse to come on my show, male guests,
0:29:03 > 0:29:06attractive ones, because she grabbed hold of them and kissed them.
0:29:06 > 0:29:09George Clooney was like this.
0:29:09 > 0:29:13- I think you'll find, Michael... - I'm sorry?- ..that George kissed me.
0:29:14 > 0:29:16Well, you were on top.
0:29:17 > 0:29:19Just being willing.
0:29:20 > 0:29:24It was definitely, didn't mind George Clooney but Ken Dodd? No.
0:29:26 > 0:29:29- Did you really kiss Ken Dodd?- No! - No, of course she didn't.
0:29:29 > 0:29:31- Wasn't there a Tom Jones incident? - There was.
0:29:31 > 0:29:33- Do you remember Tom Jones?- I do.
0:29:33 > 0:29:37You were on with Jennifer, and his agent came to us and said,
0:29:37 > 0:29:39under threat of death, you must not throw knickers at him at all.
0:29:39 > 0:29:42I was in charge of not throwing knickers.
0:29:42 > 0:29:44And I made the mistake of telling you, and, of course,
0:29:44 > 0:29:47he was covered in large bloomers.
0:29:48 > 0:29:50I think we had about 12 pairs on.
0:29:51 > 0:29:54Just peeled them off and throwing them.
0:29:54 > 0:29:57His manager was not pleased, I'll tell you.
0:29:57 > 0:30:00But you, you now bring us a really fascinating book.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03It's an insight into Muhammad Ali.
0:30:03 > 0:30:08- Muhammad Ali - A Memoir.- Yeah. - It is based on the four interviews
0:30:08 > 0:30:10- you did with him...- Yes. - ..which I thought stretched
0:30:10 > 0:30:13over a longer period. But it's ten years, '71-'81.
0:30:13 > 0:30:16That's right. That was the time, of course, where he went from being
0:30:16 > 0:30:21a contender to being world champion, to the misbegotten man that we saw
0:30:21 > 0:30:24at the very end of it and showing the first signs of the injury that
0:30:24 > 0:30:25basically, killed him, in the end.
0:30:25 > 0:30:28And when you first met him, he was already Muhammad Ali,
0:30:28 > 0:30:30- he wasn't Cassius Clay.- Oh, yes.
0:30:30 > 0:30:32- He'd be the world champion.... - He'd made his mark, that's right.
0:30:32 > 0:30:35So, there must been a big build-up to that interview.
0:30:35 > 0:30:38Well, I mean, there was, in the sense that,
0:30:38 > 0:30:41when he arrived in the studio, it was like watching a Martian arrive
0:30:41 > 0:30:44out of a spaceship. I had never seen a human being who looked like him.
0:30:44 > 0:30:46He was absolutely beautiful, he really was.
0:30:46 > 0:30:50A glorious-looking man. And, yet, when he walked towards you,
0:30:50 > 0:30:52he didn't look that big, but then he sat down
0:30:52 > 0:30:55his backside was so big, he couldn't get in the chair.
0:30:55 > 0:30:58So, we had to find a chair at the BBC that was big enough for him.
0:30:58 > 0:31:01But he was so perfectly built that he didn't look large, at all.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05The other thing was his hands. When he shook hands with me,
0:31:05 > 0:31:09his fingers were about that long. They didn't belong to a man who was
0:31:09 > 0:31:11going to batter you to death in the ring. The belonged to a man
0:31:11 > 0:31:14who played violin or something like that. It was extraordinary.
0:31:14 > 0:31:15He was an extraordinary-looking man
0:31:15 > 0:31:19and, then, of course, he was the Barnum & Bailey of the fight game.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21He was an extraordinary publicist.
0:31:21 > 0:31:24Funny and articulate and all those things.
0:31:24 > 0:31:28And I got him through the course of the interviews I did with him,
0:31:28 > 0:31:31if you could call them interviews, I got him in all his various moods,
0:31:31 > 0:31:35from madness to joy, to all those things, as well.
0:31:35 > 0:31:38And then, sadly, the last interview I did, in '81, as I said,
0:31:38 > 0:31:41it was like watching an iceberg melt, basically.
0:31:41 > 0:31:44It's very moving when you write about that in the book.
0:31:44 > 0:31:47Even at that point, the spark had gone.
0:31:47 > 0:31:50It had gone. Yeah, totally. And you are aware that the man
0:31:50 > 0:31:54who had graced this sport, who had actually reinvented this sport,
0:31:54 > 0:31:58who had sold it like nobody else ever had, and boxed like nobody else
0:31:58 > 0:32:02ever had, that what had caused that condition was through the game
0:32:02 > 0:32:03he graced and the game he served so well.
0:32:03 > 0:32:06- Strange.- There is an interesting...
0:32:06 > 0:32:09I think we all have a collective memory of the interviews you did
0:32:09 > 0:32:13and you always remember him as being so funny and charming
0:32:13 > 0:32:16and playful and, yet, that third interview which,
0:32:16 > 0:32:20you know, you read the transcript and you watch the clip, I'm ...
0:32:20 > 0:32:22Do you mind if we watch a little clip of that
0:32:22 > 0:32:24- and then talk about it? - No, I don't mind.- As an interviewer,
0:32:24 > 0:32:26I find it really fascinating.
0:32:26 > 0:32:29Watching you in this is really fascinating.
0:32:29 > 0:32:31- You're missing... - No, I ain't missing nothing.
0:32:31 > 0:32:36- You did...- I read you and I don't... I came on you and you ain't used
0:32:36 > 0:32:40to no black man or boxer having no sense. I'm not just a boxer!
0:32:40 > 0:32:43I'm taught by Elijah Muhammad, I'm educated. Even Oxford University,
0:32:43 > 0:32:46your biggest seat of learning, offered me a professorship
0:32:46 > 0:32:48in philosophy and poetry. I'm not just an ordinary fighter!
0:32:48 > 0:32:52I can talk all week on millions of subjects and YOU do not have
0:32:52 > 0:32:57enough wisdom to corner me on television. You do not have enough!
0:32:57 > 0:32:59You're too small, mentally, to tackle me
0:32:59 > 0:33:01on nothing that I represent.
0:33:01 > 0:33:02I'm serious.
0:33:02 > 0:33:05You and this little TV show is NOTHING to Muhammad Ali
0:33:05 > 0:33:08and if you have got some more questions, ask them, and I bet you
0:33:08 > 0:33:12I'll eat you up right here on air. Ain't no way you can tackle me.
0:33:12 > 0:33:13Wow.
0:33:13 > 0:33:16APPLAUSE
0:33:16 > 0:33:18I watch you and I'm in awe,
0:33:18 > 0:33:23because you didn't lose your composure, you are sitting forward.
0:33:23 > 0:33:25I mean, I would have shat myself.
0:33:25 > 0:33:26LAUGHTER
0:33:26 > 0:33:30I confess! No, I don't know what to do.
0:33:30 > 0:33:31I didn't know what to, or did do.
0:33:31 > 0:33:35If he... He had done that before to me and he was kidding.
0:33:35 > 0:33:39But there, he wasn't. He had lost it. His eyes were angry and burning
0:33:39 > 0:33:42and he was leaning in towards me and being very, very aggressive.
0:33:42 > 0:33:45I thought, if it was a jockey who was doing that - a tiny fellow -
0:33:45 > 0:33:48then you're OK, but 16.5 stone of heavyweight champion,
0:33:48 > 0:33:52you know, he might mean it. What was funny was, after the show...
0:33:52 > 0:33:56The show lasts about an hour and a half, that was only part of it,
0:33:56 > 0:33:59it was an extraordinary demonstration. All that had happened
0:33:59 > 0:34:02was that I had said to him that a very well-known American writer
0:34:02 > 0:34:06called Budd Schulberg had said of Ali, in spite of all he says about
0:34:06 > 0:34:09white people, of all the fighters Schulberg knew,
0:34:09 > 0:34:12Ali was the one with the most white friends.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14And that is what started that, except he thought,
0:34:14 > 0:34:15when I went like that,
0:34:15 > 0:34:18he thought I was going to say "Read it for yourself."
0:34:18 > 0:34:20And he knew and I knew he couldn't read properly.
0:34:20 > 0:34:23- Oh.- That he was semi-illiterate. - Yes.- So he did exactly what anybody
0:34:23 > 0:34:26would do - certainly a fighter, in that situation -
0:34:26 > 0:34:30- he came back at me and flattened me. - He sounds a bit like a man
0:34:30 > 0:34:33who has been told that he's not very bright, as you...
0:34:33 > 0:34:36I think that's right. He had that kind of shame in him.
0:34:36 > 0:34:38He didn't want people to understand, so if I had said,
0:34:38 > 0:34:41"Read it for yourself", he couldn't.
0:34:41 > 0:34:44And then we ended up... I sat there and thought,
0:34:44 > 0:34:47"It's been an absolute nightmare, this show.
0:34:47 > 0:34:49"I don't want to be on telly ever again" and all that.
0:34:49 > 0:34:53I went up to my room and I sat there thinking, "You idiot, you could
0:34:53 > 0:34:55"have been better than that. It was awful!"
0:34:55 > 0:34:58Knock on the door. Opened the door and there's my father,
0:34:58 > 0:35:01five foot seven, a miner from Grimethorpe,
0:35:01 > 0:35:04and he said to me, "Now, then!" I said, "Now, then."
0:35:04 > 0:35:07He said, "Can I ask you a question?" I said, "You can."
0:35:07 > 0:35:11He said, "Out there..." "Yes?" "..what were wrong with thee?"
0:35:11 > 0:35:13I said, "I did what I... What could I have done?"
0:35:13 > 0:35:15"Well, you thump him."
0:35:15 > 0:35:18LAUGHTER
0:35:19 > 0:35:21I got the feeling my father might have, actually.
0:35:23 > 0:35:25It would have been your last interview, but very good!
0:35:27 > 0:35:30When you look... You have chosen four of your really
0:35:30 > 0:35:33memorable interviews, with somebody as extraordinary as Muhammad Ali.
0:35:33 > 0:35:36One of the best interviewees... It was impossible to interrupt.
0:35:36 > 0:35:39He was the most remarkable human being. We're lucky, aren't we?
0:35:39 > 0:35:41What wonderful company we have. And you could call them up
0:35:41 > 0:35:44and people say, "Oh, I wish I could meet Dawn", yada-yada.
0:35:44 > 0:35:47But we had that ability to get who we want.
0:35:47 > 0:35:49It makes us feel very privileged.
0:35:49 > 0:35:52But now and again, there comes a person - I don't know
0:35:52 > 0:35:55if it has happened to you yet - but it did with Ali with me,
0:35:55 > 0:35:58who is so different, he transcends normal fame,
0:35:58 > 0:36:01there's something else about them. They are so iconic that they
0:36:01 > 0:36:04are irreplaceable. And there is only one or two of them you will ever
0:36:04 > 0:36:07meet, if you are that lucky. And that is what I found myself -
0:36:07 > 0:36:10in that situation. What's more, I did like him. I grew to like him
0:36:10 > 0:36:11an awful lot.
0:36:11 > 0:36:15I thought, when he died, I thought, this was my chance to actually
0:36:15 > 0:36:19pay tribute to a remarkable man who did not play a significant part
0:36:19 > 0:36:23in my career, but who I enjoyed, more than most people, talking to
0:36:23 > 0:36:24and being with.
0:36:24 > 0:36:28And thinking how lucky I was that I was able to do that.
0:36:29 > 0:36:32Does it annoy you that, when people remember...
0:36:32 > 0:36:36You did ALL the great interviews and interviewed all the brilliant people
0:36:36 > 0:36:39- and they remember the screw-ups. - Yeah.- They remember the things...
0:36:39 > 0:36:41Meg Ryan, Emu - those things.
0:36:41 > 0:36:43Is that frustrating or do you think, "Yeah!"
0:36:43 > 0:36:47No, it defines fames, doesn't it? Young people I talk to, I say,
0:36:47 > 0:36:51you should be careful what you wish for, because, in the end,
0:36:51 > 0:36:55people will only remember you for all the foul-ups. The things you
0:36:55 > 0:36:58most want to forget, they most want to remember! It's a good definition
0:36:58 > 0:37:00of the joys of fame. There aren't that many, really.
0:37:00 > 0:37:03It's the price of the job that you pay. I loved every minute of it.
0:37:03 > 0:37:05I have been a very, very lucky man, indeed.
0:37:05 > 0:37:08And I had the best of it, in a sense, cos I had all these
0:37:08 > 0:37:11lovely old stars, who I adored when I was a kid. That generation
0:37:11 > 0:37:14of Cagney and all those people. Astaire and all those people.
0:37:14 > 0:37:18- And then, this new lot that came through.- This rabble.
0:37:18 > 0:37:20LAUGHTER
0:37:20 > 0:37:22The dregs. Look what I'm coping with!
0:37:22 > 0:37:24I had to leave!
0:37:25 > 0:37:26I get it!
0:37:27 > 0:37:29Muhammad Ali - A Memoir
0:37:29 > 0:37:32is out in shops now. It's been a real pleasure to have you on.
0:37:32 > 0:37:35Thank you so much, Sir Michael Parkinson!
0:37:35 > 0:37:39CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:37:39 > 0:37:42Right! It's time for our musical performance.
0:37:42 > 0:37:45This man has had a great year. His song, Catapult, did just that,
0:37:45 > 0:37:48taking him from strength to strength. Here performing Only You,
0:37:48 > 0:37:50please welcome, Jack Savoretti!
0:37:50 > 0:37:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:37:56 > 0:37:59# Travelled far to get ourselves here
0:38:01 > 0:38:05# Left our indifference behind
0:38:07 > 0:38:12# With your courage I escaped my fears
0:38:12 > 0:38:17# And you learned to say what's on your mind
0:38:17 > 0:38:22# And now we build our loving memories
0:38:22 > 0:38:24# Living heart to heart
0:38:24 > 0:38:28# Glowing like an open fire
0:38:28 > 0:38:30# We came out from the dark
0:38:33 > 0:38:36# Only you is all I need
0:38:38 > 0:38:42# Only you know where to go to get to me
0:38:44 > 0:38:47# Only you can set me free
0:38:50 > 0:38:56# And stop me living behind the lines of enemies
0:38:56 > 0:38:59# I'm waiting for someone to rescue me
0:39:00 > 0:39:02# Hey!
0:39:05 > 0:39:07# My, my!
0:39:07 > 0:39:09# Whoa, yeah!
0:39:11 > 0:39:13# My, my! Oh!
0:39:14 > 0:39:18# We travelled rough to get ourselves here
0:39:20 > 0:39:24# Now laughter dries the tears we cried
0:39:26 > 0:39:31# And through the good times and the bad, my dear
0:39:32 > 0:39:36# We suffered for each other's crime
0:39:36 > 0:39:41# Yes, so I'll take love you gave me
0:39:41 > 0:39:44# Closer to my heart
0:39:44 > 0:39:46# If you take the songs I sing to you
0:39:46 > 0:39:49# Alone in the dark
0:39:49 > 0:39:51# Hey, hey!
0:39:51 > 0:39:54# Only you is all I need
0:39:54 > 0:39:56# Whoa-oh, yeah!
0:39:56 > 0:40:01# Only you know where to go to get to me
0:40:03 > 0:40:06# Only you can set me free
0:40:08 > 0:40:10# Stop me living
0:40:11 > 0:40:16# Stop me living behind the lines
0:40:16 > 0:40:21# Of enemies
0:40:21 > 0:40:23# Oh
0:40:24 > 0:40:26# When I'm with you baby
0:40:26 > 0:40:28# It's a beautiful life
0:40:28 > 0:40:29# Hey
0:40:29 > 0:40:33# Together this world feels like home
0:40:33 > 0:40:35# Oh
0:40:36 > 0:40:40# Walk beside me now until the end of time
0:40:40 > 0:40:42# Without you, oh
0:40:42 > 0:40:45# I feel so alone
0:40:45 > 0:40:48# Yeah
0:40:48 > 0:40:51# Only you is all I need
0:40:51 > 0:40:52# Hey
0:40:54 > 0:40:58# Only you know where to go to get to me
0:40:58 > 0:41:00# Yeah
0:41:00 > 0:41:03# Only you can set me free
0:41:05 > 0:41:07# Stop me living
0:41:09 > 0:41:10# Stop me living
0:41:11 > 0:41:16# Stop me living behind the lines
0:41:16 > 0:41:21# Of enemies. #
0:41:21 > 0:41:24APPLAUSE
0:41:27 > 0:41:29Thank you very much.
0:41:30 > 0:41:32Jack Savoretti!
0:41:32 > 0:41:34Great job, come on over now.
0:41:36 > 0:41:38Well done, that was really, really good.
0:41:38 > 0:41:41Come here and sit down. You sit down beside Dawn.
0:41:41 > 0:41:42Jack, everybody.
0:41:42 > 0:41:44Lovely. There you go.
0:41:45 > 0:41:46Do a bit of greeting.
0:41:51 > 0:41:52They like you. They like you.
0:41:54 > 0:41:56Thanks for that, fully live, that was great.
0:41:56 > 0:41:58Fully live, yeah, that was terrifying.
0:41:58 > 0:42:00I've got a little bit of the shakes going on.
0:42:00 > 0:42:01LAUGHTER
0:42:01 > 0:42:04That's from the album Sleep No More, which is out now.
0:42:04 > 0:42:07- And we're playing it a lot on Radio 2, as you know.- Thank you.
0:42:07 > 0:42:09And last time you were on, you caused a bit of a sensation.
0:42:09 > 0:42:12People really reacted to you being on the show.
0:42:12 > 0:42:14It was pretty cool. Cos we had actually put the album...
0:42:14 > 0:42:16the previous album to bed.
0:42:16 > 0:42:19And then you called, and obviously, we came running.
0:42:19 > 0:42:22And we played and for the first time, we got a top ten record,
0:42:22 > 0:42:24thanks to you. So thank you very much.
0:42:24 > 0:42:25Congratulations!
0:42:25 > 0:42:26APPLAUSE
0:42:29 > 0:42:30So, you toured that last...
0:42:30 > 0:42:32Actually, cos I follow you on something, I can't remember what.
0:42:32 > 0:42:34I think maybe Twitter? I don't know.
0:42:34 > 0:42:36Twitter, Instagram, I think we follow each other...
0:42:36 > 0:42:37Yeah, but you gig all the time.
0:42:37 > 0:42:39- You're constantly touring. - Yeah, we gig a lot.
0:42:39 > 0:42:41And that was the craziest part about doing a show.
0:42:41 > 0:42:42We've never...
0:42:42 > 0:42:44We've had good success with albums and live,
0:42:44 > 0:42:46but we've never had that song.
0:42:46 > 0:42:48And after doing the show, we now know what it feels like
0:42:48 > 0:42:50to play to a crowd that knows that song, because...
0:42:50 > 0:42:53In the first chords of the song we played last time...
0:42:53 > 0:42:55This is going to get very confusing for anybody watching.
0:42:55 > 0:42:56LAUGHTER
0:42:56 > 0:42:57It's like an alternative dimension.
0:42:57 > 0:42:59But we did play the other song, Catapult.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02And in the first two chords, now, when we play shows, the room...
0:43:02 > 0:43:03The energy just changes.
0:43:03 > 0:43:06And we're like, "Oh, so that's what having a hit sounds like."
0:43:06 > 0:43:07LAUGHTER
0:43:07 > 0:43:08So it's great.
0:43:08 > 0:43:11I always think that when you watch someone, like a band,
0:43:11 > 0:43:12play their hits, you always think,
0:43:12 > 0:43:15"Oh, it must be lovely to have a hit that you can just start,"
0:43:15 > 0:43:16and, like you say...
0:43:16 > 0:43:18I wondered the same thing.
0:43:18 > 0:43:19LAUGHTER
0:43:19 > 0:43:22- And now, that was the closest I got, so...- Now you've got it!
0:43:22 > 0:43:24You've got it. But you are, you're going to be touring again, right?
0:43:24 > 0:43:26Yeah, we're touring the UK in March.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29We're off to America in January, Germany in February, and we'll be
0:43:29 > 0:43:31coming back to the UK in March, so hopefully see you guys there.
0:43:31 > 0:43:33I'm sure we will.
0:43:33 > 0:43:35Jack Savoretti, everybody. Fantastic. Thinking very much.
0:43:35 > 0:43:36APPLAUSE, CHEERING
0:43:36 > 0:43:38Really good job. Excellent.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43Nearly out of time, but just before we go, time for...
0:43:43 > 0:43:44I'm so sorry, we're doing...
0:43:44 > 0:43:47It seems grubby and stupid, but we're doing it in front of you.
0:43:47 > 0:43:49LAUGHTER
0:43:49 > 0:43:52Yes, we're doing a "bit", Michael, we're doing a bit.
0:43:52 > 0:43:53I know the bit.
0:43:54 > 0:43:55Yeah, it's the big red chair. It is.
0:43:55 > 0:43:56LAUGHTER
0:43:56 > 0:43:58Who's there? Who's there?
0:43:58 > 0:43:59Hi, I'm Kim.
0:43:59 > 0:44:02Kim? Kim. This is Kim. She's a self-starter. Yes, Kim.
0:44:02 > 0:44:03LAUGHTER
0:44:03 > 0:44:04Where are you from, Kim?
0:44:04 > 0:44:06I'm from New Zealand.
0:44:06 > 0:44:07It's a small island off Australia.
0:44:07 > 0:44:08LAUGHTER
0:44:09 > 0:44:13We're familiar with it, Kim. And do you live here or there?
0:44:13 > 0:44:14I live here.
0:44:14 > 0:44:15You live here. What do you do?
0:44:15 > 0:44:17I'm a student, so not much.
0:44:17 > 0:44:19LAUGHTER
0:44:19 > 0:44:21- I'm finished studying, so... - You've finished studying?
0:44:21 > 0:44:23Yeah, I just spend money.
0:44:23 > 0:44:24OK, so you're... You're nothing, really.
0:44:24 > 0:44:26LAUGHTER
0:44:26 > 0:44:28Right now, you're in the red chair.
0:44:28 > 0:44:30The anecdote Olympics awaits.
0:44:30 > 0:44:32So off you go with your story, Kim.
0:44:32 > 0:44:34OK, so I'd just arrived in Spain from New Zealand,
0:44:34 > 0:44:35and I went straight to my sister,
0:44:35 > 0:44:37who'd been living in Spain for a while,
0:44:37 > 0:44:39and she's fluent in Spanish. So, you know, anyway, she goes...
0:44:39 > 0:44:41LAUGHTER
0:44:41 > 0:44:42- Spinach!- Spinach?
0:44:42 > 0:44:43Spanish.
0:44:43 > 0:44:45No, no, go with spinach, I like it.
0:44:45 > 0:44:46LAUGHTER
0:44:46 > 0:44:48They're all speaking spinach!
0:44:48 > 0:44:49LAUGHTER
0:44:49 > 0:44:52Anyway, she told me a few phrases, like "hola", which is hello,
0:44:52 > 0:44:54and "guapo", which is like, a good-looking man.
0:44:54 > 0:44:55So very useful.
0:44:55 > 0:44:57And we went to a bar on, like, the third night, and she...
0:44:57 > 0:45:00I just go, there was loads of guapos,
0:45:00 > 0:45:01and I was like, "Yes!" Like, perfect.
0:45:01 > 0:45:03One of them was the bartender.
0:45:03 > 0:45:06And so she goes, perfect opportunity to practise your Spanish skills.
0:45:06 > 0:45:08So she taught me how to say, "I want three beers".
0:45:08 > 0:45:11Like, the drink. Anyway...
0:45:11 > 0:45:13LAUGHTER
0:45:13 > 0:45:15I went up to the hot guy, and I was like,
0:45:15 > 0:45:17"Hola!
0:45:17 > 0:45:19"Quiero tres pollas, por favor."
0:45:19 > 0:45:22He started laughing, my sister was laughing even harder.
0:45:22 > 0:45:23And then he goes,
0:45:23 > 0:45:26"Sorry, I've got one of those to offer," in English.
0:45:26 > 0:45:27And I was like, very confused,
0:45:27 > 0:45:29until I find out that my sister told me how to say,
0:45:29 > 0:45:31"I want three penises, please."
0:45:31 > 0:45:32LAUGHTER
0:45:32 > 0:45:33Not, "I want three beers."
0:45:33 > 0:45:34That wasn't...
0:45:34 > 0:45:35Ah!
0:45:35 > 0:45:37APPLAUSE
0:45:37 > 0:45:38Even Michael said...
0:45:41 > 0:45:42It was not chat show worthy. No.
0:45:42 > 0:45:44LAUGHTER
0:45:44 > 0:45:48I did like that she was ordering bears and speaking spinach.
0:45:48 > 0:45:49LAUGHTER
0:45:49 > 0:45:52OK, now, somebody else. Hello.
0:45:52 > 0:45:54- Hello.- Hi, what's your name? - It's Kirsty.
0:45:54 > 0:45:56Kirsty. Are you from New Zealand as well?
0:45:56 > 0:45:58No, I'm from Basingstoke.
0:45:58 > 0:46:00LAUGHTER
0:46:01 > 0:46:04I have a great ear... A really great ear.
0:46:04 > 0:46:05LAUGHTER
0:46:07 > 0:46:09OK, off you go with your story.
0:46:09 > 0:46:10My husband had just started a new job,
0:46:10 > 0:46:12and it was his Christmas do, and he said to us,
0:46:12 > 0:46:14"Oh, it's going to be Best Of British,
0:46:14 > 0:46:18"so we'll go as best of British children's TV programmes."
0:46:18 > 0:46:20So he was Bungle, and I was Zippy.
0:46:20 > 0:46:22LAUGHTER
0:46:23 > 0:46:24And then when we got there,
0:46:24 > 0:46:27it was the most poshest do I've ever been to.
0:46:27 > 0:46:29- It was a red carpet... - LAUGHTER
0:46:29 > 0:46:32And everyone was suited, booted, cocktail dresses.
0:46:33 > 0:46:35- And... - LAUGHTER
0:46:37 > 0:46:38And I stayed the whole night.
0:46:38 > 0:46:41One of his bosses' wives said to me,
0:46:41 > 0:46:43"I'd divorce my husband for less."
0:46:43 > 0:46:44LAUGHTER
0:46:44 > 0:46:46And then somebody else said,
0:46:46 > 0:46:48"I thought you were the evening entertainment."
0:46:48 > 0:46:50LAUGHTER
0:46:50 > 0:46:54And they kept asking me if I could put my Zippy head on,
0:46:54 > 0:46:55so they could take photos of me.
0:46:55 > 0:46:57LAUGHTER
0:46:57 > 0:46:59Aww. We like you, and you can walk!
0:46:59 > 0:47:00Well done, that woman.
0:47:00 > 0:47:01APPLAUSE
0:47:07 > 0:47:08Well done, everyone.
0:47:08 > 0:47:10If you want to join us on the show and have a go in the red chair,
0:47:10 > 0:47:13you can contact us via our website at this very address.
0:47:13 > 0:47:15That is it for tonight,
0:47:15 > 0:47:17so please say a huge thank you to my guests.
0:47:17 > 0:47:18Jack Savoretti, everyone!
0:47:18 > 0:47:19APPLAUSE
0:47:20 > 0:47:22Sir Michael Parkinson!
0:47:22 > 0:47:23APPLAUSE
0:47:23 > 0:47:25Dawn French!
0:47:25 > 0:47:26APPLAUSE
0:47:26 > 0:47:28Felicity Jones!
0:47:28 > 0:47:29APPLAUSE
0:47:29 > 0:47:30Dev Patel!
0:47:30 > 0:47:31APPLAUSE
0:47:31 > 0:47:33And Nicole Kidman!
0:47:33 > 0:47:34APPLAUSE
0:47:35 > 0:47:39Join me next week with musical guest Katie Melua,
0:47:39 > 0:47:40Sherlock star Martin Freeman,
0:47:40 > 0:47:43Golden Globe-nominated Naomie Harris,
0:47:43 > 0:47:44Oscar winner Dame Helen Mirren,
0:47:44 > 0:47:46and the one and only Will Smith!
0:47:46 > 0:47:48I'll see you then. Good night, everyone!
0:47:48 > 0:47:49CHEERING