Episode 14

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0:00:02 > 0:00:03Good evening, I'm Matthew McConaughey

0:00:03 > 0:00:05and this is The Graham Norton Show.

0:00:05 > 0:00:07CHEERING

0:00:07 > 0:00:15This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:22 > 0:00:25CHEERING Oh! Oh!

0:00:25 > 0:00:28Oh, too kind!

0:00:28 > 0:00:32Thank you very much! Thank you very much! Thank you!

0:00:32 > 0:00:38Hello! Hello and welcome! Welcome to the show!

0:00:38 > 0:00:41Friday night, yahoo!

0:00:41 > 0:00:43Hey, what a week we've had, ladies and gentlemen.

0:00:43 > 0:00:47Theresa May...Theresa May unveiled her plan for Brexit.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50Oh, she's been working night and day on them,

0:00:50 > 0:00:53which is presumably why she's still in her pyjamas.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57She looks great. Mmm, my Brexit, it's hard!

0:00:57 > 0:01:02Now, erm... "Do you like your hard Brexit? Do you like it?"

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Who came up with that phrase? It's awful, isn't it?

0:01:07 > 0:01:09"I'll show you a hard Brexit!"

0:01:11 > 0:01:13Of course, the big news is that this afternoon,

0:01:13 > 0:01:18Donald Trump officially became US president. Insert noise here.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Yes, in a not-star-studded ceremony,

0:01:20 > 0:01:22The Donald swore his oath of allegiance.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25The rest of the world just swore - "What the..."

0:01:25 > 0:01:29During the inauguration, Trump was positioned behind bulletproof glass,

0:01:29 > 0:01:32you know, in case he lost his temper and shot some Mexicans.

0:01:34 > 0:01:38The ceremony went well, but there was one awkward moment,

0:01:38 > 0:01:40when a female guest was bursting for the toilet

0:01:40 > 0:01:42and asked Trump where she could go for a wee.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Hey, let's get the guests on! CHEERING

0:01:48 > 0:01:50He's one of Britain's favourite stand-ups

0:01:50 > 0:01:51and the star of his own sitcom,

0:01:51 > 0:01:54please welcome Devon's finest, Josh Widdicombe!

0:01:54 > 0:01:56CHEERING

0:01:56 > 0:02:01- Whoo! Hello, sir! Hi! How are you?- I just tripped.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03Have a little seat there. Did you trip?

0:02:03 > 0:02:05I didn't even see, I didn't see it.

0:02:05 > 0:02:08She's done the impossible of going from child star in The Addams Family

0:02:08 > 0:02:10to one of Hollywood's most successful and quirky actresses.

0:02:10 > 0:02:12Please welcome the lovely Christina Ricci!

0:02:12 > 0:02:15CHEERING

0:02:15 > 0:02:19Oh, I didn't notice all that. That's fantastic, it's beautiful. Hello!

0:02:19 > 0:02:22Come in, sit down, Christina Ricci.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26He's one of our most successful British singer-songwriters

0:02:26 > 0:02:29and after a year out of the spotlight, he's back.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31It's only the fabulous Ed Sheeran.

0:02:31 > 0:02:33CHEERING

0:02:35 > 0:02:38Hello! They're happy, they're happy to see you. Come in, sit down.

0:02:38 > 0:02:40Ed Sheeran.

0:02:40 > 0:02:42And this actor went from rom-com king

0:02:42 > 0:02:45to bona fide Oscar-winning movie star

0:02:45 > 0:02:48and now he's struck Gold in his latest crime adventure.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50Please welcome Mr Matthew McConaughey!

0:02:50 > 0:02:52CHEERING Hey!

0:02:54 > 0:02:56Have a seat.

0:02:58 > 0:02:59Whoo!

0:02:59 > 0:03:01CHEERING

0:03:04 > 0:03:09Feel the love! Feel the love! That was good, wasn't it? That was nice.

0:03:09 > 0:03:13That was nice, yeah. This is, like, a very mixed look.

0:03:13 > 0:03:14Sometimes, the show looks like

0:03:14 > 0:03:16everyone's just going to a showbiz funeral.

0:03:16 > 0:03:19- Tonight, it's very mixed. - Thank you very much.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22Well, you, I've never seen you look that smart before in your life!

0:03:22 > 0:03:28No, I thought I'd make an effort, because last time I was on here

0:03:28 > 0:03:31was the month before I was voted

0:03:31 > 0:03:34GQ's second worst-dressed man in the world.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36I was voted worst dressed.

0:03:36 > 0:03:40- 2012 worst dressed.- Wow! - Do you know how they described me?

0:03:40 > 0:03:42Because they do a little feature and they had a picture of me.

0:03:42 > 0:03:47They described my look as "an update on Bilbo Baggins".

0:03:49 > 0:03:52Update? He's not a historical figure.

0:03:53 > 0:03:55And, Ed Sheeran, lovely to have you back in the world,

0:03:55 > 0:03:57blinking into the lights, after your year away.

0:03:57 > 0:03:59What are you singing for us tonight?

0:03:59 > 0:04:02- Castle On The Hill. - CHEERING

0:04:04 > 0:04:06- It's a hit, it's a hit. - A song about Suffolk.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09There aren't enough songs about Suffolk.

0:04:09 > 0:04:11- I think that's the only one, yeah. - And Matthew McConaughey,

0:04:11 > 0:04:14- congratulations on your new movie, Gold.- Thank you.

0:04:14 > 0:04:15We'll talk about it a bit more in a bit,

0:04:15 > 0:04:20but I saw a clip and you were accepting an award for Gold

0:04:20 > 0:04:22and there was a really funny audience reaction.

0:04:22 > 0:04:24- Do you know what I'm talking about?- I think I do.

0:04:24 > 0:04:28- So, you get up there, you get the prize.- Yeah.

0:04:28 > 0:04:34And as I like to open up, usually I start off with "All right"

0:04:34 > 0:04:36of some sort, "All right, all right, all right."

0:04:36 > 0:04:39The first three words I ever said on film and I think...

0:04:39 > 0:04:42I don't think about it, but I think this night, I just said,

0:04:42 > 0:04:44"All right, so..." And then everyone goes, "Ah-ah-ah!"

0:04:44 > 0:04:48So, you can't say one "all right". You've got to do three?

0:04:48 > 0:04:50If it starts with one, I've got to add the other two, yeah.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52The audience demands it.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55Is it like Beetlejuice? It appears if you say the third one?

0:04:55 > 0:04:57Something nice happens, yeah.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59All right, all right, all right.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01CHEERING

0:05:02 > 0:05:03See?

0:05:06 > 0:05:09Now, Christina Ricci,

0:05:09 > 0:05:13you are sitting in a particular sandwich on our couch tonight.

0:05:13 > 0:05:16- Mm-hmm.- Yes, you are because, Josh, you have been...

0:05:16 > 0:05:19- Have you been mistaken for... - No, I have been mistaken...

0:05:19 > 0:05:21What, for Matthew McConaughey? All the time.

0:05:23 > 0:05:26The amount of photos I've taken as you, it's unbelievable.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29You wouldn't understand how many times they thought I was you!

0:05:29 > 0:05:32Exactly. They've come up to you, gone, "Who are you?"

0:05:33 > 0:05:39I've built a career of being mistaken for Ed Sheeran.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41I've had it quite a few times.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43- Do you get laid? - You what?- Do you get laid?

0:05:46 > 0:05:48I'm just wondering.

0:05:48 > 0:05:51I meet ginger people all the time that are like, "Thanks!"

0:05:54 > 0:05:58- Yes.- So, I get...- That's a little awkward now, Josh, isn't it?

0:05:58 > 0:06:02So, I'm now the only Ed Sheeran that's not getting laid?

0:06:04 > 0:06:07I've got the worst of both worlds!

0:06:07 > 0:06:10I was literally just talking about this with Christina backstage,

0:06:10 > 0:06:11cos there is a kid who...

0:06:11 > 0:06:16His job is, like, people employ him when they can't get me for stuff,

0:06:16 > 0:06:17they employ him to look like me.

0:06:17 > 0:06:18Is this this guy?

0:06:18 > 0:06:23- Yeah.- Isn't that... Now, you've met him, you've met him.

0:06:23 > 0:06:25Mate, that's not cool. I don't think I look like him.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28- I thought that was, like, a doctored picture of you.- No, really.

0:06:28 > 0:06:32- Wait, here you are together. - Yeah, yeah.- Now, in fairness...

0:06:32 > 0:06:33That was a while back, though.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35I've managed to grow a little bit of facial hair.

0:06:35 > 0:06:38He looks like you looking into a spoon.

0:06:41 > 0:06:45Yeah, when I filmed the Bridget Jones film,

0:06:45 > 0:06:47I could only do one day instead of two,

0:06:47 > 0:06:49- so they cast him for the second day.- No!

0:06:49 > 0:06:51He actually cops off with Bridget's mate in it.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54So, again, getting people laid - it's working.

0:06:54 > 0:06:55No, no, but you have done a great job

0:06:55 > 0:06:57cos so many people post pictures,

0:06:57 > 0:07:01particularly quite beautiful women post pictures,

0:07:01 > 0:07:03thinking that they've met you and sometimes...

0:07:03 > 0:07:04It's always just a fat dude

0:07:04 > 0:07:06who looks a bit drunk that's gone like that.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09I didn't want to say that, but you're right.

0:07:09 > 0:07:10I mean, some of these are quite ropey.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12Like, "Met Ed Sheeran last night."

0:07:13 > 0:07:16How happy does he look?!

0:07:16 > 0:07:21I tell you what, he is definitely getting laid.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25I've never had any of that excitement.

0:07:25 > 0:07:29I went to watch England at the European Championships

0:07:29 > 0:07:31and I heard people around me whispering,

0:07:31 > 0:07:33going, "There he is, there he is!"

0:07:33 > 0:07:34I thought, "Here we go!"

0:07:34 > 0:07:38And then the whole of the England contingent stood up

0:07:38 > 0:07:42and started shouting and pointing at me, "You're just a shit Ed Sheeran!"

0:07:43 > 0:07:46I'm so sorry, man. I'm so sorry.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49But, now, talking of pictures on the internet, Christina Ricci,

0:07:49 > 0:07:52you've found a real niche for yourself. Tell us about...

0:07:52 > 0:07:54Is it called Ricci-ing?

0:07:54 > 0:07:57Yeah, it's Ricci-ing, but I like to call it I Can Fit In That.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01- That's the hashtag. - That's the series.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04The series is the I Can Fit In That series.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06- So, you put them on Instagram.- Yeah.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09And I think we've got some of the pictures of...

0:08:09 > 0:08:11Before we show them, how did this happen?

0:08:11 > 0:08:14I just have always really liked to try to fit into small things.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20And my two-year-old, without me doing anything,

0:08:20 > 0:08:24he likes to get into small things also, so it must be genetic.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26Did this start before you were born?

0:08:29 > 0:08:31So, here you are. I don't know whether it was...

0:08:31 > 0:08:34It was a thinker, that one, wasn't it? It was tough.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37A way-homer. Gets it on the way home.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42Here you are. This is you. Now, I hope your two-year-old...

0:08:42 > 0:08:43Is that a dryer or a washer?

0:08:43 > 0:08:46I did get all the way in either the washer or the dryer.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49It was like on top of each other, I don't remember which one.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51You know you can just take your clothes off and put it in?

0:08:53 > 0:08:57- I like a challenge.- On the girl!

0:08:57 > 0:09:02- What else have you got in? Is that your sink?- That was my sink, yes.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06- And you thought, "I can fit in that."- That's what I thought, yes.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08- And you could.- There's the fridge one, too, which is pretty good.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11- We've got the fridge. - Oh, good. Yeah.

0:09:11 > 0:09:16Cos that was a challenge. That was a real hard one to get into.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18- Oh, really?- Yeah, cos, look, see how my leg doesn't really fit?

0:09:18 > 0:09:21I guess, yes, but it looks more capacious.

0:09:21 > 0:09:26- There's nothing really you can fit in here.- Are you sure?

0:09:26 > 0:09:29- Could you fit in that fruit bowl? - I mean, like, yeah.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32- Oh, could you?- Oh, let's see. - Shall we get rid of the fruit?

0:09:32 > 0:09:34"Shall we get rid of the fruit?" No, leave it!

0:09:34 > 0:09:36OK, can she get in?

0:09:36 > 0:09:38I mean, I can get in, but not my entire body.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40Oh, no, no, clearly...

0:09:40 > 0:09:42- Focus, focus, focus, focus. - Oh, no, that is...

0:09:42 > 0:09:46- Look at that!- Whoa!- So if it was just a tube, I'd be able to do it.

0:09:46 > 0:09:48Ladies and gentlemen, she's in a fruit bowl.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51APPLAUSE

0:09:53 > 0:09:56- Hope I don't flash anyone or lose a shoe.- That is a first.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58We've never had a guest in the fruit bowl before.

0:10:01 > 0:10:02Well done, well done.

0:10:02 > 0:10:06It'd have been very disappointing if you'd said, "We do that every week."

0:10:06 > 0:10:10Erm, right, let's start tonight with Gold, Matthew McConaughey's film

0:10:10 > 0:10:14which opens on the 3rd of February and this is an extraordinary story.

0:10:14 > 0:10:18- Yeah.- It's one of those stories that could only be based on a true story,

0:10:18 > 0:10:20cos there's so many twists and turns and things you don't see coming.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22Was it a huge story in the States?

0:10:22 > 0:10:24Cos I don't remember reading about this story.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27He was Canadian and it was a huge story in the States

0:10:27 > 0:10:30because hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars were invested

0:10:30 > 0:10:34by New York bankers and their clients and, if you go see the film,

0:10:34 > 0:10:36you see a lot of that money was lost,

0:10:36 > 0:10:39almost all of that money was lost, so it was a huge story.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42This guy - his original name was David Walsh,

0:10:42 > 0:10:44I play him as Kenny Wells - literally, had a dream.

0:10:44 > 0:10:46He's a prospector.

0:10:46 > 0:10:52Literally, had a dream that he knew where the gold was in Indonesia.

0:10:52 > 0:10:55Hocked a watch, bought a one-way ticket to Indonesia,

0:10:55 > 0:10:57found the guy who could help him find the gold,

0:10:57 > 0:10:59talked him into it, saying,

0:10:59 > 0:11:01"We're going to find it, we're going to prove them all wrong",

0:11:01 > 0:11:04worked up a bunch of money and off they went and they found the gold.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07Biggest gold strike of that entire 30-year period.

0:11:07 > 0:11:12And then the question is, was there any gold or not?

0:11:12 > 0:11:15As we know, people like to buy into a story

0:11:15 > 0:11:19and a lot of people bought into this story and put in a lot of money.

0:11:19 > 0:11:20I didn't know it was a true story,

0:11:20 > 0:11:22but halfway through, I, kind of, thought,

0:11:22 > 0:11:25"This HAS to be a true story, cos of all the crazy stuff that goes on."

0:11:25 > 0:11:28Per usual, anything that's that crazy on screen,

0:11:28 > 0:11:32usually the truth trumps it and you find out it was true.

0:11:32 > 0:11:35Yeah, and to prepare for this, cos often actors go through

0:11:35 > 0:11:37kind of hell to prepare for roles,

0:11:37 > 0:11:41- it sounded like it was quite fun preparing for this.- Yes.

0:11:41 > 0:11:43I've had roles where I lost a lot of weight.

0:11:43 > 0:11:45In this one, I got to gain a lot of weight

0:11:45 > 0:11:48and the gaining is a whole lot more fun.

0:11:48 > 0:11:52Can't fit in a fruit bowl, though, can you?

0:11:52 > 0:11:55Not even one of my butt cheeks.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57But it's interesting,

0:11:57 > 0:12:00as your family just thought you were, like, a different person.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02Well, for six months, I said,

0:12:02 > 0:12:04"I've got a rule, McConaughey, to get ready for this role.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07"You have to say yes to whatever desire you want 24/7 -

0:12:07 > 0:12:09"eat, drink, what have you.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12"And if you second guess yourself, you must have double."

0:12:12 > 0:12:14So, I was a real yes man.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18Pizza night, instead of Friday night, was Tuesday morning.

0:12:18 > 0:12:20If you wanted to go bowling at midnight on a school night,

0:12:20 > 0:12:23that's a great idea, too, kids, let's go.

0:12:23 > 0:12:24Erm...

0:12:24 > 0:12:27so, I really relaxed on the rules

0:12:27 > 0:12:31and cheeseburgers and beer for breakfast were a great idea.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35So, how hard was it to, kind of, go, "Oh, film's over"?

0:12:35 > 0:12:38I didn't think about it until we got there.

0:12:38 > 0:12:42I did notice that a few things that I thought were renting

0:12:42 > 0:12:44that were actually there to own.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49And I noticed that it had really set in and I did have a few moments

0:12:49 > 0:12:53where I was looking in the mirror, going, "This may be it, buddy.

0:12:53 > 0:12:56"This may be your profile."

0:12:56 > 0:12:58It's nice to know that's finally happened, though,

0:12:58 > 0:13:01cos I'm sure there are so many men, round the world who look at you,

0:13:01 > 0:13:03like, ripped in all the films, being like, "Oh, God, inhuman.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07- "How does he do that?" And now you're the same.- Yeah, it was fun.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10My family, kind of, misses me being a fat-ass.

0:13:10 > 0:13:14Your kids at half 11 at night going, "Can we go bowling?" "No way!"

0:13:14 > 0:13:18I got so strict. No, my nickname in the family was Captain Fun.

0:13:18 > 0:13:21- Captain Fun! - For the whole six months.

0:13:21 > 0:13:23It was like, "Another pizza? Yes!

0:13:23 > 0:13:25"Milkshakes for breakfast? Great idea!"

0:13:25 > 0:13:29- So, did your kids get fat, as well?- No, they didn't.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33I mean, the whole family probably put on a little extra luggage,

0:13:33 > 0:13:37but, I mean...I was fat and happy.

0:13:39 > 0:13:40And we've got a clip.

0:13:40 > 0:13:47This is a moment in the film when your character could cash in.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50- Could cash in.- He could cash in and make the millions.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53No-one in your family - I'm talking your children's grandchildren -

0:13:53 > 0:13:56will ever have to worry about money again.

0:14:20 > 0:14:21You see these hands, Brian?

0:14:23 > 0:14:24These are my father's hands.

0:14:25 > 0:14:28I have scratched and clawed through the hard earth with these hands

0:14:28 > 0:14:31and I will bury you with these hands.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36Now, you will tell this man...

0:14:39 > 0:14:41..he works for Kenny Wells.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46Very good.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50And I read you in an interview, talking about how

0:14:50 > 0:14:52when you read the script, you knew this man.

0:14:52 > 0:14:54I knew it right away, from the inside out.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57- But, kind of, through your dad. - Yeah, through my dad.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00My dad was a pipe and oil salesman,

0:15:00 > 0:15:02which means he was peddling pipe, meaning you're on the phone,

0:15:02 > 0:15:04payphones, in the bar -

0:15:04 > 0:15:08before cellphones - and he would take me around the country.

0:15:08 > 0:15:11We'd hop in his car and we'd go office to office to people

0:15:11 > 0:15:14that owed him money and bringing his 12-year-old son

0:15:14 > 0:15:17would shame a lot of them into paying him, right?

0:15:17 > 0:15:19And he also loved a shady deal.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21He would always say, "Goddamn, buddy,

0:15:21 > 0:15:25"I'd rather do a shady deal with some fun people

0:15:25 > 0:15:27"than a great deal with a bunch of straight-asses."

0:15:28 > 0:15:30That's Kenny Wells.

0:15:30 > 0:15:33I just want to say, one story about your dad,

0:15:33 > 0:15:37the bet involving your brother, do you know the story I mean?

0:15:37 > 0:15:41- The bicycle?- The motorcycle, yeah, yeah.- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44Another way my dad did "great business".

0:15:44 > 0:15:48Our upbringings are so similar, it's unbelievable.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50Are you getting laid?

0:15:53 > 0:15:55APPLAUSE

0:15:57 > 0:15:59I'm trying.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02Every time I come on this show, I get abused by Hollywood stars.

0:16:02 > 0:16:08- Check this out.- You know what, I'm going to sit back and enjoy.

0:16:08 > 0:16:09It is a great story.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12So, my dad had a ranch one time with his friends

0:16:12 > 0:16:14and they'd been deer-hunting all day and it's late at night.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16They're sitting down at the bar and drinking and stuff

0:16:16 > 0:16:18and all of a sudden, the subject comes up

0:16:18 > 0:16:20of how high everybody can pee,

0:16:20 > 0:16:21how high on the wall, right?

0:16:21 > 0:16:25And he's got this buddy named Jim who's about 6'6"

0:16:25 > 0:16:27and they're playing cards and looking around

0:16:27 > 0:16:31and my dad sees this old BMX bike. And we couldn't afford a BMX bike.

0:16:31 > 0:16:34Now, my middle brother had been wanting a BMX motorcycle,

0:16:34 > 0:16:35but we couldn't afford it.

0:16:35 > 0:16:39There's this old CRX 80 over there and Dad says,

0:16:39 > 0:16:44"You know, Jim, my son, he could pee over your head on the wall,"

0:16:44 > 0:16:46and he goes, "No, there's no way he can do that,"

0:16:46 > 0:16:49and he goes, "Yeah, he can. I'll bet you. I'll bet the motorbike on it."

0:16:49 > 0:16:52And the guy goes, "There's no way, I'm 6'6"."

0:16:52 > 0:16:55Pop gets in the car, drives an hour and a half back into town,

0:16:55 > 0:16:58wakes my 12-year-old brother up in his tighty whities,

0:16:58 > 0:16:59gets him out of bed.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01When you get woke up in the middle of the night as a kid,

0:17:01 > 0:17:02you've got to pee, right?

0:17:02 > 0:17:04My dad says, "No, no, no, no, no, you're not going to pee."

0:17:04 > 0:17:07"Have this bottle of water."

0:17:07 > 0:17:09"Get in the car and have a sip on this beer

0:17:09 > 0:17:13"cos we're about to go get yourself a motorcycle, buddy."

0:17:13 > 0:17:15So, Pat sitting there in his tighty whities,

0:17:15 > 0:17:16they ride an hour and a half back.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18They get back at four in the morning

0:17:18 > 0:17:21and brings my brother into the barn.

0:17:21 > 0:17:25They put Jim up against the wall and Jim marks the mark at 6'6".

0:17:25 > 0:17:29My daddy says, "Go ahead, boy."

0:17:29 > 0:17:30Pee-yow!

0:17:30 > 0:17:35Beat it by a foot, put the CRX in the back of the truck -

0:17:35 > 0:17:37my brother's first motorcycle.

0:17:39 > 0:17:42We love your brother!

0:17:42 > 0:17:44Yeah, me, too.

0:17:47 > 0:17:51Ed, you did a mad thing, cos you didn't have

0:17:51 > 0:17:53a deprived childhood, but when you made money...

0:17:55 > 0:17:57You could only piss at three feet!

0:17:57 > 0:18:00Yeah, but when you made money, when you made money,

0:18:00 > 0:18:02you bought certain things, didn't you?

0:18:03 > 0:18:08- Stuff that you were denied as a child.- Yeah, yeah.

0:18:08 > 0:18:09Like, what did you buy?

0:18:09 > 0:18:12OK! Well, I wasn't denied...

0:18:12 > 0:18:15Any good parent will know, any parent in here, if a kid

0:18:15 > 0:18:17wants a Lego set, you get them a small one.

0:18:17 > 0:18:18You don't get them the big one that is 359 quid.

0:18:18 > 0:18:20So, when my album went to number one, I was

0:18:20 > 0:18:22passing the Lego store,

0:18:22 > 0:18:25and I saw the big Death Star, and I went, "Do you know what?

0:18:25 > 0:18:27"It's time."

0:18:28 > 0:18:30I'm just a big kid now.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32It isn't just that.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35I went to go and buy my god-daughter a Ninja Turtle toy

0:18:35 > 0:18:37for her birthday.

0:18:37 > 0:18:39And I was in the Ninja Turtle section and there was this huge

0:18:39 > 0:18:41truck. I looked at the small toy I got her,

0:18:41 > 0:18:44and the big truck, and I was like, "I'm getting that for me."

0:18:45 > 0:18:47I have loads and loads...

0:18:47 > 0:18:49Are you like the kid from Big?

0:18:49 > 0:18:51Yeah, I have a load of...

0:18:51 > 0:18:56child stuff in my house, yeah. There is a room

0:18:56 > 0:18:58full of teddy bears.

0:18:58 > 0:19:00This is such an embarrassing interview.

0:19:00 > 0:19:02That you didn't have as a kid?

0:19:02 > 0:19:05Not that I didn't have, I just wanted them.

0:19:05 > 0:19:07And out of us two, you're the one who's getting laid.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12Let's hope those teddy bears don't have anything to do with it.

0:19:12 > 0:19:14Who would have thought teddy bears was the key?!

0:19:14 > 0:19:16I remember, actually, I once went on a date

0:19:16 > 0:19:19- and brought a Lego set, made the Lego set, and then left.- What?!

0:19:22 > 0:19:23Wow.

0:19:24 > 0:19:27That's going deep, man. That's strong moves.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29What was she doing? She was eating her dinner and you were

0:19:29 > 0:19:32- constructing...- No, we were just chatting, catching up.

0:19:32 > 0:19:33Just chatting. She's definitely going to be

0:19:33 > 0:19:36watching this, like, "Yep, definitely happened."

0:19:37 > 0:19:39- Wow.- What did you make?

0:19:39 > 0:19:41Pirates Of The Caribbean pirate ship.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45Yeah, he's not a loser.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48I hope you gave it to her as a gift at the end.

0:19:49 > 0:19:50No.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57Josh, your parents, they did buy you things.

0:19:57 > 0:19:58They did. I grew up in Devon.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00It was similar...

0:20:02 > 0:20:04So, it's, kind of, the middle of nowhere.

0:20:04 > 0:20:07There were four kids at my year at school.

0:20:07 > 0:20:09- I grew up in the middle of nowhere. - MURMURING

0:20:09 > 0:20:11All right!

0:20:11 > 0:20:15So, my parents tried to, kind of, make stuff educational.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18I don't know what bed you had when you were a child,

0:20:18 > 0:20:21I imagine now your bed is bizarre, Ed.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24I imagine you sleep on a bouncy castle or something now.

0:20:24 > 0:20:26It's pretty regular.

0:20:26 > 0:20:28Is it one of those race car beds?

0:20:30 > 0:20:32- That's what- I- saw!

0:20:32 > 0:20:34One of those, it is sunk into the ground.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37It's, like, proper comfy, you can roll over onto the floor.

0:20:37 > 0:20:38Like a trampoline?

0:20:38 > 0:20:40You don't want roll over too much, you don't want

0:20:40 > 0:20:42to lie on the Lego, that's very painful.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45I have a pair of stuffed pandas in my room.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47Stuffed pandas. Two.

0:20:49 > 0:20:52I don't know what's true any more!

0:20:52 > 0:20:53Believe everything.

0:20:53 > 0:20:57My bed, when I was a kid, my parents bought me this thing

0:20:57 > 0:21:00called a cabin bed. This was the height of a bunk bed,

0:21:00 > 0:21:04but below it, instead of another bed, I had a desk.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07Basically, my parents made the executive decision that

0:21:07 > 0:21:10I was more likely to write a letter than have a friend.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17Kids would come round, "Can I stay over?"

0:21:17 > 0:21:19"No, but you can catch up on your admin."

0:21:24 > 0:21:28Listen, Christina Ricci, you've brought out

0:21:28 > 0:21:31a brand-new Amazon Prime Video. It's a new world, ladies and gentlemen.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35- Zed, but you say Zee. - I say Zee, but you can say Zed.

0:21:35 > 0:21:40Thank you. Z: The Beginning of Everything.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42It starts screening on Amazon Prime next Friday.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45And it tells the story of Zelda Fitzgerald and F Scott Fitzgerald,

0:21:45 > 0:21:48who obviously wrote The Great Gatsby and lots of other things.

0:21:48 > 0:21:51Now, I know the name Zelda Fitzgerald,

0:21:51 > 0:21:53but why do we know her name?

0:21:53 > 0:21:55Why has she continued to be famous through history?

0:21:55 > 0:22:00Well, I mean, she was, sort of, the very outrageous wife

0:22:00 > 0:22:01of Scott Fitzgerald.

0:22:01 > 0:22:04The misconception about her, I don't know if you...

0:22:04 > 0:22:07In America, there was this thing that she was this crazy alcoholic

0:22:07 > 0:22:09woman who ruined Scott Fitzgerald.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12And, of course the truth is a little bit more complicated than that.

0:22:12 > 0:22:18So, this is the story of their marriage, from her point of view.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21Is the stuff true that F Scott Fitzgerald would lift

0:22:21 > 0:22:23bits of her writing and use it?

0:22:23 > 0:22:26Yeah, right out of her letters and out of her journal

0:22:26 > 0:22:28and so, when she wanted to publish her own writing,

0:22:28 > 0:22:32she was not allowed to publish very much, because he felt

0:22:32 > 0:22:37you'd be able to tell that a lot of his writing was hers.

0:22:37 > 0:22:38I mean, that's nuts, isn't it?

0:22:38 > 0:22:40Isn't it nuts, a little bit?

0:22:40 > 0:22:42Is this your first television thing?

0:22:42 > 0:22:45It's my first one that I, sort of, produced and starred in.

0:22:45 > 0:22:49Because for an actress, it must be so different from being

0:22:49 > 0:22:52in a movie, where you are gauging a performance over 1½, 2 hours,

0:22:52 > 0:22:54and suddenly you've got this performance that is

0:22:54 > 0:22:55going to arc over several hours.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58Yeah, it's really interesting, it's very different,

0:22:58 > 0:23:00but I think one thing that's really nice about

0:23:00 > 0:23:02doing a series, a bio series,

0:23:02 > 0:23:05is that you really get to live with the person.

0:23:05 > 0:23:09So, the evolution can actually take what feels like more

0:23:09 > 0:23:11of a natural amount of time.

0:23:11 > 0:23:15Is there enough material to go on and do loads of seasons?

0:23:15 > 0:23:19Yeah, yeah, I mean, they had this really intense

0:23:19 > 0:23:21and crazy love affair.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23Very dysfunctional and chaotic.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26And they were, kind of, the first really famous celebrity couple -

0:23:26 > 0:23:29like, she was just famous for being his wife, really.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31She had all of these talents, but she wasn't really

0:23:31 > 0:23:35able to explore them, so, it's pretty fascinating.

0:23:35 > 0:23:37Listen, we've got a clip to watch.

0:23:37 > 0:23:40This is when Zelda realises that F Scott Fitzgerald

0:23:40 > 0:23:42is stealing her work.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45I told you that I needed to be alone and, yet,

0:23:45 > 0:23:49here you are, judging my... my pace, my process!

0:23:49 > 0:23:51You don't just stumble into beauty, Zelda, it takes

0:23:51 > 0:23:54herculean focus and effort.

0:23:54 > 0:23:56And gin. There are more empty bottles in here than you

0:23:56 > 0:24:01- have pages.- You know, what I do is very different from

0:24:01 > 0:24:04the automatic writing that you do in your diary.

0:24:04 > 0:24:05How dare you.

0:24:05 > 0:24:09These are not random. These are my thoughts and dreams.

0:24:09 > 0:24:13And you told me you thought my writing was beautiful.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16I'm sorry I interrupted your process.

0:24:16 > 0:24:19For your information, I have written

0:24:19 > 0:24:22three stories already, but I have to do both.

0:24:22 > 0:24:25Max wants the new novel by September and he's

0:24:25 > 0:24:27not going to give me another advance.

0:24:27 > 0:24:29So, without the stories, how do we afford this house,

0:24:29 > 0:24:30how do we afford anything?

0:24:30 > 0:24:34You think that just appeared on your wrist by magic?

0:24:36 > 0:24:38I don't want this, you horse's ass.

0:24:40 > 0:24:41I want YOU.

0:24:41 > 0:24:44APPLAUSE

0:24:51 > 0:24:54This can't be true, this is your first romantic lead?

0:24:54 > 0:25:00It, kind of, is. My, my first, straight, dramatic, romantic lead.

0:25:00 > 0:25:03- Wow.- Yeah.- Good on ya!- Thanks.

0:25:03 > 0:25:06And it's also, ladies and gentlemen, people may not be aware,

0:25:06 > 0:25:09- it's your first use of a merkin. - Oh, yeah.

0:25:09 > 0:25:11Now, for people who are not familiar

0:25:11 > 0:25:14- with what a merkin is, do explain.- Well, a merkin...

0:25:14 > 0:25:17- Somebody on this couch already knows what a merkin is.- So well!

0:25:17 > 0:25:19A merkin is a wig for your nether regions.

0:25:19 > 0:25:22It's a wig for your nether regions. Nicely described.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25Now, I know that body hair was perhaps

0:25:25 > 0:25:27different in, kind of,

0:25:27 > 0:25:29the time that your show is set.

0:25:29 > 0:25:33But you posted a picture of the merkin.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36And I have to say, it was bigger than I was anticipating.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42You could barely fit that in a fruit bowl.

0:25:42 > 0:25:46You must have felt like you were wearing a grass skirt.

0:25:46 > 0:25:48- It was big. - That is an enormous merkin.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51- It was pretty big. - If you don't mind me saying.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55Did they trim it to size?

0:25:55 > 0:25:56We trimmed it down a lot, yeah.

0:25:56 > 0:25:58But what's interesting, the last time I was here,

0:25:58 > 0:26:00I had a period...

0:26:00 > 0:26:02A period film...

0:26:02 > 0:26:05LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:26:07 > 0:26:10So open. Let's just talk. Let's just talk.

0:26:10 > 0:26:13And we'll all do our period anecdotes.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16Because I was doing Bel Ami and I had to have full armpit hair.

0:26:16 > 0:26:18Yes, he was making you grow them out.

0:26:18 > 0:26:21Yes. And you guys kept trying to get me to do cartwheels

0:26:21 > 0:26:23- and raise my arms and stuff. - And you refused!

0:26:23 > 0:26:25- I refused. - Cos you're a lady.- That's right.

0:26:25 > 0:26:27Meanwhile...

0:26:29 > 0:26:32Actually, talking of merkin, Ed, you, sort of,

0:26:32 > 0:26:34have a story about this. Cos you know...

0:26:36 > 0:26:39- Do I?!- Well, you know the actor Richard Madden, don't you?

0:26:39 > 0:26:41- Yeah, very well. - The last time he was on the show...

0:26:41 > 0:26:44- Oh, yeah, he told me.- ..he told a story about "a singer".

0:26:44 > 0:26:46- And...- You don't wear one, do you?!

0:26:46 > 0:26:48No, I got given it.

0:26:48 > 0:26:50I get given a lot of cakes by fans.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52And I used to eat all of the cakes.

0:26:52 > 0:26:55And one time I cut into it and there was a load of hair in it.

0:26:55 > 0:26:58- GROANING - So it was somebody who really liked you.

0:26:58 > 0:27:01Yeah, I imagine she wanted to be, like, "I'm inside you."

0:27:02 > 0:27:05Oh, so, like a Fatal Attraction kind of thing?

0:27:05 > 0:27:08- Did you write a song about that? - No, I didn't. Maybe I should!

0:27:08 > 0:27:11There was a massive clump that just, kind of, came out like...

0:27:12 > 0:27:16Because, if people... I'm not suggesting anybody does...

0:27:16 > 0:27:17That's like a hair pie, right?

0:27:17 > 0:27:22If people make something for you, would it ever get to you,

0:27:22 > 0:27:24or is there a firewall before it reaches you?

0:27:24 > 0:27:27I wish there was more firewalls sometimes.

0:27:27 > 0:27:30But, yeah, there's a lot of interesting things that

0:27:30 > 0:27:32still show up in my mailbox.

0:27:32 > 0:27:34Do you open everything?

0:27:34 > 0:27:36- Sorry, don't answer that.- No.

0:27:36 > 0:27:37I will tell you what I do.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40Some of it, I open, but I don't return any of it.

0:27:40 > 0:27:44Because I just got this feeling that somebody is going to go,

0:27:44 > 0:27:48"Yeah, look, he sent me back this letter, because I sent it to..."

0:27:48 > 0:27:50And I just got a feeling that that's going to spread,

0:27:50 > 0:27:52and I'm going to be getting a whole lot more mail.

0:27:52 > 0:27:54You don't want to be like Ringo Starr,

0:27:54 > 0:27:56cos he replied to everything and one day was just like,

0:27:56 > 0:27:57"I can't any more" and stopped.

0:27:57 > 0:28:00And he replied for 40 years to everything.

0:28:00 > 0:28:02I had that when I got a fan letter.

0:28:05 > 0:28:07You've opened the floodgates now.

0:28:07 > 0:28:11I've opened the floodgates and that second one, sssh.

0:28:11 > 0:28:13But you have been sent some odd things.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16I've been sent some weird things.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18I got sent a picture

0:28:18 > 0:28:20of a ginger family.

0:28:22 > 0:28:23And I've got no idea who they were.

0:28:23 > 0:28:25It was my Christmas card to you!

0:28:27 > 0:28:29NOW the face seems familiar.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32It was really weird, I still don't know, it felt like somebody

0:28:32 > 0:28:33was trying to tell me I was adopted.

0:28:35 > 0:28:38Now, Josh Widdicombe, very busy man.

0:28:38 > 0:28:41He's got a new DVD out now, What Do I Do Now...

0:28:41 > 0:28:44- That was your last tour, right? - Last tour, yeah.

0:28:44 > 0:28:47Your sitcom Josh has just been recommissioned. Congratulations.

0:28:47 > 0:28:49- Yes, I'm writing the third series now.- Are you in the middle

0:28:49 > 0:28:52- of that now?- Yes, but it's fine, I'm normally in it, but I'm just going

0:28:52 > 0:28:54to cast that guy that looks like Ed Sheeran.

0:28:54 > 0:28:59And very exciting, next Friday, The Last Leg is back.

0:28:59 > 0:29:01Channel 4, at 10pm.

0:29:01 > 0:29:03Now, I have to say, last year, what a gift for

0:29:03 > 0:29:04doing a topical...

0:29:04 > 0:29:06It was great, wasn't it?

0:29:06 > 0:29:10Yeah, great to do a topical show when the world is going to shit.

0:29:10 > 0:29:12Everyone's going to die, but we're going to get good ratings.

0:29:12 > 0:29:15There was the Rio Olympics, as well, which is a good thing.

0:29:15 > 0:29:17Yeah, the Rio Paralympics, we went there.

0:29:17 > 0:29:20Then, we had Trump, which was interesting.

0:29:20 > 0:29:23And we thought, "He won't get elected."

0:29:23 > 0:29:25And he did.

0:29:25 > 0:29:27Then, we had Brexit.

0:29:27 > 0:29:31I remember sitting in front of the television and seeing

0:29:31 > 0:29:35Jeremy Corbyn on your show. How did that happen?

0:29:35 > 0:29:39Um, so, Jeremy Corbyn is, kind of, our Bernie Sanders,

0:29:39 > 0:29:41I suppose, kind of, figure.

0:29:41 > 0:29:43And he came...

0:29:43 > 0:29:45Blast from the past.

0:29:45 > 0:29:47Great reference.

0:29:47 > 0:29:50So, I think we just asked him to come on.

0:29:50 > 0:29:55He genuinely turned up for the show and he'd never seen it.

0:29:56 > 0:29:58So, he didn't know who I was.

0:29:58 > 0:30:00I was, like, "I'm Josh," and he was, like,

0:30:00 > 0:30:03thinking I was just some bloke, like...

0:30:03 > 0:30:05And I was like, "I'm on the show," and he was like, "Oh, right, OK."

0:30:05 > 0:30:08And I think he had been told he was going on a Friday night chat show.

0:30:08 > 0:30:10I think he thought he was going on this.

0:30:10 > 0:30:14He had his anecdote for the Red Chair and he was ready to go.

0:30:14 > 0:30:17I feel like, if you want to be the leader of the country,

0:30:17 > 0:30:20it is not that astute to go on a show you have never seen.

0:30:20 > 0:30:22It's worrying. You imagine that if he was the leader

0:30:22 > 0:30:24of the country and he'd meet the President of America,

0:30:24 > 0:30:26and he would go, "I've no idea who you are."

0:30:26 > 0:30:29The weirdest thing, I have never said this before,

0:30:29 > 0:30:33but I was on a train the week after and he sat down -

0:30:33 > 0:30:39in a seat - and he sat down opposite me and he didn't recognise me.

0:30:42 > 0:30:45Can you believe it? I was like, "You all right?" And he went, "Yep."

0:30:47 > 0:30:50Well, he was very busy.

0:30:50 > 0:30:52Then he turned to me and he said, "Are you getting laid?"

0:30:52 > 0:30:55I was like, "What are you talking about?"

0:30:55 > 0:30:57Quickly, talking of unlikely encounters,

0:30:57 > 0:31:01this was all in the papers, because your little...

0:31:01 > 0:31:04Oh, no, mate, come on.

0:31:04 > 0:31:07- What we read in the papers. - I got cut up.

0:31:07 > 0:31:09- Yes.- I got cut up.

0:31:09 > 0:31:11What do you think? Rugged, right?

0:31:11 > 0:31:13I see that. I can't wait to hear about it.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16- So, was it Beatrice or Eugenie? - Oh, mate, I can't talk about it.

0:31:16 > 0:31:18- Can you not talk about it?- No. - Oh, OK, sorry, I'll shut up.

0:31:18 > 0:31:19Was it is a hat accident?

0:31:19 > 0:31:22It was James Blunt, he was trying to get his pop career back.

0:31:22 > 0:31:24He tried to kill you.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27How did it end up in the papers?

0:31:27 > 0:31:31I don't know. There wasn't a lot of people there that night.

0:31:31 > 0:31:33- I have no idea... - He can't tell the story!

0:31:33 > 0:31:37I can't tell the story. You can say ALLEGEDLY what happened.

0:31:37 > 0:31:40Allegedly one of the princesses, Eugenie or Beatrice.

0:31:40 > 0:31:44- James Blunt.- One of them, and James Blunt and Ed Sheeran

0:31:44 > 0:31:46were in a room, presumably, in a palace.

0:31:46 > 0:31:50And James Blunt ALLEGEDLY wanted to be knighted.

0:31:50 > 0:31:52Is that a euphemism?

0:31:54 > 0:31:59And so, one of the princesses found a handy sword to knight him.

0:31:59 > 0:32:01- What?!- Did you not read this in the papers?

0:32:01 > 0:32:03I didn't know James Blunt was involved.

0:32:04 > 0:32:06- Up to THAT point...- Anyway,

0:32:06 > 0:32:08there was a bit of sword play

0:32:08 > 0:32:10and Ed Sheeran got cut in the face, is that right?

0:32:10 > 0:32:11No.

0:32:13 > 0:32:16Do you know what, I have no idea how that story came out,

0:32:16 > 0:32:20I have no idea, because like, it was so tight,

0:32:20 > 0:32:24and for, like, two weeks afterwards, I had this huge gash on my face

0:32:24 > 0:32:26and people would be like, "What happened?"

0:32:26 > 0:32:28And you would be like, "Oh, I fell?"

0:32:29 > 0:32:32And then, suddenly, it came out. The alleged...

0:32:36 > 0:32:39No, no, no. We'll stop. We'll stop.

0:32:42 > 0:32:46Very quickly, Matthew, we must mention, this is a huge movie.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49Sing. It's already been a huge hit in America.

0:32:49 > 0:32:52Previewing this weekend, opens nationwide next Friday,

0:32:52 > 0:32:55and it is an animated film, so presumably,

0:32:55 > 0:32:59was this genuinely something, so your kids could go

0:32:59 > 0:33:01- and see a film with Captain Fun?- Partially.

0:33:01 > 0:33:05I had... I think my kids were tired of answering the question,

0:33:05 > 0:33:07not being able to answer the question, they said,

0:33:07 > 0:33:09"What is your favourite film your dad's made?"

0:33:09 > 0:33:11"We haven't been able to see any."

0:33:11 > 0:33:13I look back at my last ten years and I haven't made

0:33:13 > 0:33:16anything my kids can see. It is not a good idea to sit them

0:33:16 > 0:33:21in front of...a lot of anything I have made in

0:33:21 > 0:33:22the last ten years...yet.

0:33:22 > 0:33:25You know, that opens up a lot of discussions.

0:33:25 > 0:33:27I said I want to make something that they can watch

0:33:27 > 0:33:29and so, I went and did Sing.

0:33:29 > 0:33:34- Loved it.- So, you play a koala, Buster Moon, and then...

0:33:34 > 0:33:36LAUGHTER

0:33:36 > 0:33:38It looks just like me.

0:33:38 > 0:33:41When you were doing press for this in Australia,

0:33:41 > 0:33:43people weren't upset, but must've been disappointed.

0:33:43 > 0:33:47There was a bit of going, "That is our national animal.

0:33:47 > 0:33:50"You should be talking like an Australian instead

0:33:50 > 0:33:51"of like you did in the film."

0:33:51 > 0:33:54I'm like, I lived there for a year, I didn't take it that literally.

0:33:54 > 0:33:58I know it's a koala. I have seen them and they are not that fun.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01They sit in the tree and everyone goes, "How cute." Other than that...

0:34:01 > 0:34:04- Do you know they are all born with chlamydia.- And they are nasty.

0:34:04 > 0:34:07- All koalas are born with chlamydia? - All koalas have chlamydia.

0:34:07 > 0:34:10Lesson learned the hard way there.

0:34:12 > 0:34:15It did make me wonder how it became a human disease.

0:34:15 > 0:34:18If that's how you are getting laid, I am not interested.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22Hence the stuffed pandas.

0:34:22 > 0:34:24- I dug myself a hole there.- You did.

0:34:26 > 0:34:28Were you in Australia for a year?

0:34:28 > 0:34:30I lived there for a year, as an exchange student,

0:34:30 > 0:34:32two weeks out of high school.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34A lot of British people go there and Australians come here,

0:34:34 > 0:34:36but that is unusual for an American, isn't it?

0:34:36 > 0:34:38I think so.

0:34:38 > 0:34:42I mean, look, a lot of, not enough Americans

0:34:42 > 0:34:43even have a passport.

0:34:45 > 0:34:47It's a sly joke.

0:34:47 > 0:34:49You know what I mean now.

0:34:49 > 0:34:52And where I was raised, a lot of us didn't have passports.

0:34:52 > 0:34:56It was my mother's idea, because me, like every other 18-year-old,

0:34:56 > 0:34:59I could say maybe I wanted to be this, but I didn't know

0:34:59 > 0:35:00what the hell I wanted to be.

0:35:00 > 0:35:04So my mom said, "You love to travel, why don't you go off to Australia,

0:35:04 > 0:35:06"as an exchange student?" I was like, "Great idea."

0:35:06 > 0:35:08I went for the year and worked 11 different odd jobs.

0:35:08 > 0:35:11- But they must remember you.- They do.

0:35:11 > 0:35:14Every time I do Australian press,

0:35:14 > 0:35:18certain families, the first family I lived with, the Crockers,

0:35:18 > 0:35:20whoever is doing the interview says,

0:35:20 > 0:35:22"We've got a surprise for you, mate."

0:35:22 > 0:35:27And in steps Raymond or Eileen and they go,

0:35:27 > 0:35:28"How you going, you going all right?"

0:35:28 > 0:35:30I say, "Yeah, I'm doing fine."

0:35:32 > 0:35:36Because, Ed Sheeran, you went on your gap year, I guess.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38- It was, kind of, a gap year.- Yeah.

0:35:38 > 0:35:41Did you know how long it was going to be when you went on it?

0:35:41 > 0:35:43What did you do? You came off social media.

0:35:43 > 0:35:46I got rid of my phone completely. Still don't have one.

0:35:46 > 0:35:49- You should try it. It is decent. - Way to sober up on that.

0:35:49 > 0:35:53- Seriously?- I bought an iPad. Now I just do e-mails,

0:35:53 > 0:35:57so I got rid of my phone completely and then was like,

0:35:57 > 0:35:59I want to go to the countries

0:35:59 > 0:36:03where I had been to and toured and only seen a dressing room,

0:36:03 > 0:36:07a venue and a bar, and then... So, Australia was one of those.

0:36:07 > 0:36:10I had never been to the Sydney Opera House or gone to

0:36:10 > 0:36:15the Barrier Reef properly or Gold Coast, so I rented a Mini

0:36:15 > 0:36:17and drove up the coast. And then, I did New Zealand

0:36:17 > 0:36:18and Japan, for two months,

0:36:18 > 0:36:21Iceland, which is great. Everyone should go to Iceland.

0:36:21 > 0:36:24There was a lot of death wish, I feel, in your trip.

0:36:24 > 0:36:26Iceland was the death wish.

0:36:26 > 0:36:29I put my foot in a boiling geyser up a volcano.

0:36:29 > 0:36:33- What?!- I was walking up, on my 25th birthday, I went

0:36:33 > 0:36:37to Iceland to see the Northern Lights, and I got, when I was at

0:36:37 > 0:36:40the top of the volcano and we were walking round, and they were like,

0:36:40 > 0:36:42"Don't go off the path, cos it's dangerous."

0:36:42 > 0:36:44I went, "OK," didn't clock it, and I saw a little pool

0:36:44 > 0:36:47of water that was bubbling. I thought, "That is quite cool -

0:36:47 > 0:36:50"volcano, bubbling." walked over, they were, "Don't walk over there."

0:36:50 > 0:36:53And I was like, "Why?" And slipped, the ground collapsed.

0:36:53 > 0:36:56- Scary!- And I don't know if you have had an experience where you felt

0:36:56 > 0:36:59like you were going to die, but it went slow motion.

0:36:59 > 0:37:01I was like, "Oh, right, that's it, then"

0:37:01 > 0:37:05But I was wearing steel-capped Timberland boots,

0:37:05 > 0:37:08so it slipped in and I, kind of, fell on the side

0:37:08 > 0:37:09and pulled it out

0:37:09 > 0:37:12and I just felt melting, and I was like, "Oh, my God!",

0:37:12 > 0:37:15screaming, screaming, and they were, "Don't take it off."

0:37:15 > 0:37:17And I was like "Why?" And I took

0:37:17 > 0:37:19my sock off and all the skin came with it.

0:37:21 > 0:37:23- That is so awful.- So, even worse...

0:37:23 > 0:37:25That's not the end of the story?!

0:37:25 > 0:37:29- Even worse?!- I get helicoptered out and they put a skin graft on it,

0:37:29 > 0:37:33because there is no skin, and I am like shaking like this in bed,

0:37:33 > 0:37:35like trying to get to bed.

0:37:35 > 0:37:36Oh, man up!

0:37:36 > 0:37:38LAUGHTER

0:37:38 > 0:37:41Then, I just pass out and I wake up to the tannoy

0:37:41 > 0:37:44of the hotel being like, "Right, there it is, folks,

0:37:44 > 0:37:45"the greatest sighting of the Northern Lights

0:37:45 > 0:37:48"in the last 20 years. That won't be happening again for a while."

0:37:52 > 0:37:54I was hoping the announcement was, "There he is, folks,

0:37:54 > 0:37:55"Ed Sheeran with a burned foot."

0:37:55 > 0:38:00- It was pretty bad.- Wow. Is it all right now?- Is there scarring?

0:38:00 > 0:38:03Yeah, it just, kind of, looks like that.

0:38:03 > 0:38:05Take your word for it.

0:38:07 > 0:38:09You're good, you're good.

0:38:09 > 0:38:12So, you checked out for a year and travelled?

0:38:12 > 0:38:14- Yes, took a whole year off.- Because?

0:38:16 > 0:38:19- Er...I don't know.- Has this turned into a job interview?

0:38:19 > 0:38:22I got to the end of a five-year tour and had everything

0:38:22 > 0:38:24to show for it professionally

0:38:24 > 0:38:27and nothing to show for it personally.

0:38:27 > 0:38:31Kind of, like, I had all these accolades and plaques

0:38:31 > 0:38:34and it was like, "Wow, everything is good" and everyone was like,

0:38:34 > 0:38:37"So what you up to when you get back home?" and I was like, "No idea."

0:38:37 > 0:38:41And they were like, "How was Australia?" I was like,

0:38:41 > 0:38:45"I could tell you about this bar or the plane." I am sure you have that.

0:38:45 > 0:38:49I asked, because I've taken trips where I needed to let memory catch

0:38:49 > 0:38:51up with me and check in with just me,

0:38:51 > 0:38:53go to places where you are anonymous...

0:38:53 > 0:38:57That can't happen in very many places with you.

0:38:57 > 0:38:59There is a few in Africa I've found.

0:39:01 > 0:39:04But I mean, I know what you mean.

0:39:04 > 0:39:05Japan was the one for me.

0:39:05 > 0:39:08I looked a sales list of where I had sold albums,

0:39:08 > 0:39:11and Japan was like... I was like, "I'm going there."

0:39:11 > 0:39:14You are going to sing for us and this is extraordinary,

0:39:14 > 0:39:18you are number one around the globe right now.

0:39:18 > 0:39:21In America, Australia, everywhere. APPLAUSE

0:39:24 > 0:39:28And this, is this the only country where you are number one AND two?

0:39:28 > 0:39:31No, I am number one and number two in every country.

0:39:31 > 0:39:34Apart from America, I am number one and six, cos it works differently

0:39:34 > 0:39:37- with radio.- What, the numbers are in a different order?

0:39:39 > 0:39:41- No, America...- It's a new era!

0:39:41 > 0:39:43One, six, three, four, two.

0:39:43 > 0:39:45America's the only country in the world where it isn't

0:39:45 > 0:39:50just sales. It is radio, and loads of other shit, so it is harder.

0:39:50 > 0:39:53So, is the one and two order the same around the world?

0:39:53 > 0:39:56- Or does it flip?- Yeah. I'm hoping after this show, we flip them.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58OK! I am hoping two will go to one.

0:39:58 > 0:40:00OK. You are giving us your number two tonight.

0:40:02 > 0:40:04Ha-ha-ha(!)

0:40:05 > 0:40:08Your stage awaits. Ed Sheeran.

0:40:08 > 0:40:10Very good.

0:40:10 > 0:40:12APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:40:12 > 0:40:16OK, here we go, performing Castle On The Hill,

0:40:16 > 0:40:18it is Mr Ed Sheeran!

0:40:23 > 0:40:26# When I was six years old I broke my leg

0:40:29 > 0:40:33# I was running from my brother and his friends

0:40:35 > 0:40:41# Tasted the sweet perfume of the mountain grass I rolled down

0:40:41 > 0:40:48# I was younger then Take me back to when I

0:40:49 > 0:40:52# Found my heart and broke it here

0:40:52 > 0:40:55# Made friends and lost them through the years

0:40:55 > 0:40:59# And I've not seen the roaring fields in so long

0:40:59 > 0:41:02# I know, I've grown

0:41:02 > 0:41:04# But I can't wait to go home

0:41:04 > 0:41:08# I'm on my way

0:41:08 > 0:41:13# Driving at 90 down those country lanes

0:41:13 > 0:41:17# Singing to Tiny Dancer

0:41:17 > 0:41:23# And I miss the way you make me feel and it's real

0:41:23 > 0:41:29# When we watched the sunset over the castle on the hill

0:41:33 > 0:41:37# 15 years old and smoking hand-rolled cigarettes

0:41:39 > 0:41:42# Running from the law through the back fields

0:41:42 > 0:41:44# And getting drunk with my friends

0:41:46 > 0:41:48# Had my first kiss on a Friday night

0:41:48 > 0:41:52# I don't reckon that I did it right

0:41:52 > 0:41:58# But I was younger then Mm, take me back to when we found

0:41:58 > 0:42:01# Weekend jobs and when we got paid

0:42:01 > 0:42:04# We'd buy cheap spirits and drink them straight

0:42:04 > 0:42:09# Me and my friends have not thrown up in so long

0:42:09 > 0:42:12# Oh, how we've grown

0:42:12 > 0:42:14# But I can't wait to go home

0:42:14 > 0:42:17# I'm on my way

0:42:17 > 0:42:23# Driving at 90 down those country lanes

0:42:23 > 0:42:26# Singing to Tiny Dancer

0:42:26 > 0:42:32# And I miss the way you make me feel, it's real

0:42:32 > 0:42:39# When we watched the sunset over the castle on the hill

0:42:39 > 0:42:45# We watched the sunset over the castle on the hill

0:42:52 > 0:42:55# One friend left to sell clothes

0:42:55 > 0:42:58# And one works down by the coast

0:42:58 > 0:43:01# One had two kids but lives alone

0:43:02 > 0:43:05# One's brother overdosed

0:43:05 > 0:43:08# One's already on his second wife

0:43:08 > 0:43:11# One's just barely getting by

0:43:11 > 0:43:13# But these people raised me

0:43:13 > 0:43:17# And I can't wait to go home

0:43:17 > 0:43:20# And I'm on my way

0:43:20 > 0:43:26# I still remember these old country lanes

0:43:26 > 0:43:30# When we did not know the answers

0:43:30 > 0:43:36# And I miss the way you make me feel, and it's real

0:43:36 > 0:43:42# When we watched the sunset over the castle on the hill

0:43:42 > 0:43:49# We watched the sunset over the castle on the hill

0:43:49 > 0:43:55# We watched the sunset over the castle on the hill. #

0:43:57 > 0:44:01CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:04 > 0:44:07- Thank you. - Ed Sheeran, everybody!

0:44:07 > 0:44:08Great job!

0:44:11 > 0:44:13Come back and join us. That was fantastic.

0:44:15 > 0:44:19Thank you so much. It was beautiful. Have a seat.

0:44:19 > 0:44:21A hero's return.

0:44:24 > 0:44:25Have a seat, do.

0:44:25 > 0:44:27Sit, sit, sit, just bunch up there.

0:44:27 > 0:44:31Very good. And, of course, the album, everyone's very excited,

0:44:31 > 0:44:33the album comes out, Divide, 3rd of March.

0:44:33 > 0:44:36- Third album, third month, third day.- Oh, I've got a vinyl.

0:44:36 > 0:44:38- Oh, clever.- I do!

0:44:38 > 0:44:40Check THAT out.

0:44:40 > 0:44:43We haven't even made it yet, but we made that

0:44:43 > 0:44:46specially for you. Look at it, it's not real.

0:44:46 > 0:44:47Oh!

0:44:47 > 0:44:49LAUGHTER

0:44:49 > 0:44:51Hence, more valuable...

0:44:54 > 0:44:56All right, it's nearly time to go,

0:44:56 > 0:45:00but we've just got time to go for the visit to the Big Red Chair.

0:45:00 > 0:45:02- Hello.- Hello.- Hello!

0:45:02 > 0:45:05- Hi. What's your name? - James.- James, lovely James.

0:45:05 > 0:45:07- And what do you do? - I'm a civil servant.

0:45:07 > 0:45:09A civil servant, lovely, in London here?

0:45:09 > 0:45:11- Yes, in London.- And are you from the London area?

0:45:11 > 0:45:14No, I live in London, but I'm originally from Suffolk.

0:45:14 > 0:45:16Yeah, mate!

0:45:16 > 0:45:18It's a Suffolk massive.

0:45:19 > 0:45:21Is he mentioned in the song?

0:45:21 > 0:45:22Probably, yeah.

0:45:22 > 0:45:26- What school did you go to? - Um, so...I went to Brandestone.

0:45:26 > 0:45:29- Oh, sweet, yeah. I went there for primary school.- OK.

0:45:29 > 0:45:32- Did we know each other?- Yeah.

0:45:32 > 0:45:33Did we?!

0:45:33 > 0:45:34LAUGHTER

0:45:34 > 0:45:39I'm not wearing my glasses. Have a look. I'm not wearing my glasses.

0:45:39 > 0:45:40What was it, James?

0:45:40 > 0:45:43- Yes.- James.- Mee?

0:45:43 > 0:45:45- That's the one!- What the fuck?!

0:45:47 > 0:45:49- You DO know him. - He was my best mate growing up.

0:45:49 > 0:45:51- You're kidding? - My best mate growing up.

0:45:51 > 0:45:54And now you're talking to him on a monitor.

0:45:54 > 0:45:57I'm not wearing my specs and he's, like...

0:45:57 > 0:46:00Can we not flip him and just get him out here and talk to him?

0:46:00 > 0:46:03- Yeah, do you have a story? - Yeah, I did, but it's up to you.

0:46:03 > 0:46:05- Please let it be about Ed! - It IS about Ed.

0:46:05 > 0:46:09- OK, tell your story. - OK, cool.- Then, we'll flip you.

0:46:09 > 0:46:11- I'm going to sit with you. - Tell your story.

0:46:11 > 0:46:13Yeah, cool, so, as Ed was saying...

0:46:13 > 0:46:16- This is so random, mate. - It's really weird.

0:46:16 > 0:46:18When we were younger, Ed used to come round my house,

0:46:18 > 0:46:21and, like you were saying, we used to be quite good mates.

0:46:21 > 0:46:23- BEST mate.- And I remember one time, one time you were coming

0:46:23 > 0:46:27round for tea and I'd forgotten to tell Mum he was a vegetarian.

0:46:27 > 0:46:28Um, at that point, anyway.

0:46:28 > 0:46:32So, Mum cooked, I think it was sausages and mash for tea.

0:46:32 > 0:46:35And Ed said, you know, after the meal, "These are the best sausages

0:46:35 > 0:46:37"I've ever tasted, where did you get them from?"

0:46:37 > 0:46:40And Mum had to lie, because she had no clue,

0:46:40 > 0:46:41and so, yeah...

0:46:41 > 0:46:45Do you know, that was the first time I ever had meat.

0:46:45 > 0:46:48And also the first time I ever watched a Simpsons episode

0:46:48 > 0:46:50- was round your house. - Yeah. That's right.

0:46:50 > 0:46:52Well done, well, we are going to flip you now

0:46:52 > 0:46:54and then we can be reunited back stage.

0:46:54 > 0:46:56- Put him on the couch!- OK!

0:46:56 > 0:46:58There he goes.

0:47:00 > 0:47:03Bring him on, bring him on, he wants to meet him.

0:47:03 > 0:47:05I feel like Cilla Black on Surprise, Surprise!

0:47:07 > 0:47:10APPLAUSE AND CHEERING There he is.

0:47:13 > 0:47:14Come on.

0:47:14 > 0:47:17Were you just, were you just here randomly?

0:47:17 > 0:47:19Have a seat, have a seat, have a seat, do.

0:47:20 > 0:47:22LAUGHTER

0:47:24 > 0:47:26- Sit down, sit down, sit down.- Hello!

0:47:28 > 0:47:30That's James. That's all we have time for.

0:47:30 > 0:47:32They are reunited. It's beautiful.

0:47:32 > 0:47:34Well done. If you would like to join us on the show

0:47:34 > 0:47:38and have a go in the Red Chair, you can. The address is down there.

0:47:38 > 0:47:41But that is it. Please, a huge thank you to my guests, Ed Sheeran

0:47:41 > 0:47:43and his mate, James.

0:47:43 > 0:47:45APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:47:45 > 0:47:47Josh Widdicombe! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:47:49 > 0:47:52Christina Ricci! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:47:52 > 0:47:55And Matthew McConaughey! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:47:55 > 0:47:58Join me next week, with musical guest Izzy Bizu,

0:47:58 > 0:48:03and a Trainspotting special. Actors Jonny Lee Miller, Ewen Bremner,

0:48:03 > 0:48:05Robert Carlyle and Ewan McGregor,

0:48:05 > 0:48:07plus Oscar-winning director Danny Boyle. It'll be a good one.

0:48:07 > 0:48:09I'll see you then! Goodnight.