0:00:02 > 0:00:05- My name is Michael Caine. - And I'm Morgan Freeman.
0:00:05 > 0:00:08BOTH: Welcome to The Graham Norton Show.
0:00:08 > 0:00:11APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:00:27 > 0:00:30APPLAUSE AND CHEERING Oh!
0:00:30 > 0:00:33Oh! Hello!
0:00:33 > 0:00:37Hello! Hello! Hi. Hi.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40Welcome. Yes, we're back, ladies and gentlemen,
0:00:40 > 0:00:42back on the telly.
0:00:42 > 0:00:44I'll tell you, I'm more excited than Nigel Farage
0:00:44 > 0:00:46under a blanket on a long-haul flight.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50Did you see that? Did you see it?
0:00:50 > 0:00:51It's so unlikely.
0:00:51 > 0:00:56Nigel Farage has denied getting off with a porn star on a plane.
0:00:56 > 0:00:57Yeah, I mean, come on.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59Come on, it's not very likely.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02Apparently the flight attendant said he touched the woman here,
0:01:02 > 0:01:04here, here and the exit at the back.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07A lot has been happening while we've been away.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10Article 50 was triggered and Brexit is happening.
0:01:11 > 0:01:13Er... LAUGHTER
0:01:13 > 0:01:16It's really gaining momentum.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19That's Theresa May writing the letter to the EU.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21Yeah, to which the EU responded,
0:01:21 > 0:01:22"Who dis?"
0:01:26 > 0:01:27The...
0:01:27 > 0:01:29The Brexit discussions are going very well.
0:01:29 > 0:01:31I mean, four days in we were already talking about
0:01:31 > 0:01:34going to war with Spain but you know!
0:01:34 > 0:01:36All about Gibraltar, isn't it?
0:01:36 > 0:01:39We're basically having an argument over a piece of rock.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42It's like a hen night in Blackpool.
0:01:42 > 0:01:44But it's the principle, isn't it? It's the principle -
0:01:44 > 0:01:46it may just be a big rock with monkeys on it
0:01:46 > 0:01:49but it's OUR big rock with monkeys on it.
0:01:49 > 0:01:51And we stole it fair and square.
0:01:52 > 0:01:54Nicola Sturgeon. Ooh, Nicola!
0:01:54 > 0:01:57She called for a second independence referendum.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00This is Nicola writing the letter to Theresa May.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02And this is Theresa May receiving it.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05SHREDDER WHIRS
0:02:05 > 0:02:07APPLAUSE
0:02:07 > 0:02:10Let's get some guests on!
0:02:10 > 0:02:12Later, we'll be meeting comedian Jack Whitehall
0:02:12 > 0:02:15and Game Of Thrones star Gemma Whelan.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18They're in the new adaptation of Decline And Fall
0:02:18 > 0:02:20and we'll have music and chat from the mighty Take That.
0:02:20 > 0:02:22CHEERING Yeah!
0:02:24 > 0:02:27But my first guests are appearing together in the new movie
0:02:27 > 0:02:28Going In Style.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31One is the Oscar-winning star of Driving Miss Daisy,
0:02:31 > 0:02:34Unforgiven, Bruce Almighty and The Shawshank Redemption.
0:02:34 > 0:02:36The other is one of Britain's greatest screen actors,
0:02:36 > 0:02:39the star of Alfie, The Italian Job Hannah And Her Sisters
0:02:39 > 0:02:40and the Dark Knight trilogy.
0:02:40 > 0:02:44Please welcome Morgan Freeman and Sir Michael Caine!
0:02:44 > 0:02:48APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:02:52 > 0:02:53Come in.
0:02:55 > 0:02:57- Have a seat here.- Thank you.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00Look at that. APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:03:04 > 0:03:05Oh!
0:03:05 > 0:03:09- Feel the love.- Yeah. - Feel the love.- Yeah.
0:03:09 > 0:03:11Wonderful. Hiya.
0:03:11 > 0:03:14Very nice to have you. Neither of you have been on the show before.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16In fact, Morgan, am I right?
0:03:16 > 0:03:18Have you ever been on a British chat show before?
0:03:21 > 0:03:23- Yeah, you've been on here. - I've been on here?
0:03:23 > 0:03:25- I think you've been on here, yeah. - Not with Graham.
0:03:25 > 0:03:27- No, I'd remember that.- Yeah.
0:03:27 > 0:03:29Well, maybe not, I don't know, it's all a blur.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32- I would remember. - You would, you'd remember.
0:03:32 > 0:03:35Yeah, you certainly wouldn't have come back so... Yeah.
0:03:37 > 0:03:39Don't be telling people how well you know me, then.
0:03:39 > 0:03:43So, you're busy, but this is the end, you were saying,
0:03:43 > 0:03:47- of your global...- Yeah, we've been in New York publicising this.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50There's a premiere here and New York tomorrow.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53- And New York?- Yeah.- That's clever. - Yeah.
0:03:53 > 0:03:57- But you're not going to both of them?- No.- No.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00- Are you going to either of them? - No.- Oh, I see.
0:04:00 > 0:04:02- Not premiering, no, it's already premiered.- Oh, no.- Oh, I see.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04- It's opening, opening. - It opens, it opens.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07No, we can't go... They open in 1,200 cinemas.
0:04:07 > 0:04:10Yeah, I mean... I mean, you like the film but not that much.
0:04:10 > 0:04:13Yeah, I know. I've seen it three times.
0:04:13 > 0:04:18And, you know, I don't laugh as much as I did the first time.
0:04:18 > 0:04:19Well, we'll talk about the movie in a bit.
0:04:19 > 0:04:21I must say, though, I've had a very busy week.
0:04:21 > 0:04:23What have you been doing?
0:04:23 > 0:04:25Oh, you know, just celebrating.
0:04:25 > 0:04:27- Oh, wait a minute!- Oh.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- I've got something for you. - Really, Michael?- Yeah.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33I'll get this out.
0:04:33 > 0:04:34It was your birthday on Tuesday, wasn't it?
0:04:34 > 0:04:37Oh, Michael, you shouldn't have. Oh, I'm embarrassed now.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40Give it to me. APPLAUSE
0:04:41 > 0:04:42It's beautiful. Thank you so much.
0:04:42 > 0:04:48- Aw.- Aw.- It's a lovely card with a picture of Michael on the front.
0:04:48 > 0:04:51Now, this is one of the talking cards, isn't it?
0:04:51 > 0:04:53- Yeah, open it.- OK, let's have a listen, let's have a listen.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55- CARD AS MICHAEL CAINE:- 'Now, listen, it's your birthday
0:04:55 > 0:04:57'and not a lot of people know that.
0:04:57 > 0:05:00'But here's your card. And remember,
0:05:00 > 0:05:03'you're only supposed to blow the candles out!'
0:05:03 > 0:05:06APPLAUSE That sounds really good to me.
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- Is that a good one?- Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a good impression.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17But the best impression of my voice I've heard is Tom Hanks.
0:05:17 > 0:05:21- Really?- He did it on The Late Show in New York, yeah, I saw him.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23I was surprised.
0:05:24 > 0:05:26Well, I know Tom Hanks and he never done it for me.
0:05:28 > 0:05:30And do you know there's this short cut
0:05:30 > 0:05:33- to say your name as...the way the impression is?- Yeah, yeah.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36People say, you say, "My cocaine."
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- Yeah.- Like the drug but loud.- Yeah.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41- But I'll tell you a story about that.- Oh, yes?
0:05:41 > 0:05:42I was waiting on a picture,
0:05:42 > 0:05:45I was waiting on a picture in the Philippines and I'm in Manila
0:05:45 > 0:05:48and we were invited to this very, very posh, expensive house
0:05:48 > 0:05:51to a party and I'm being introduced to people
0:05:51 > 0:05:53and standing, getting a drink and all that
0:05:53 > 0:05:56and the hostess is standing over there and she's looking at me
0:05:56 > 0:06:00rather nastily, considering that I'm a guest, you know.
0:06:00 > 0:06:04And there was a moment when I was a bit free and she went...
0:06:04 > 0:06:08So I went over to her and she said,
0:06:08 > 0:06:09"Are you a drug dealer?"
0:06:10 > 0:06:12I said, "No, why do you ask?"
0:06:12 > 0:06:15She said, "Why's everybody calling you 'my cocaine'?"
0:06:20 > 0:06:24You know that story's true cos you couldn't make it up.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27Quite a lot of people at the party going, "Where's my cocaine?"
0:06:27 > 0:06:31- "He's over there."- So I went over and they said, "Not you."
0:06:31 > 0:06:33Well, listen, the movie, the movie.
0:06:33 > 0:06:36- Going In Style - it opens tonight... - Yeah.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38- ..cos it's Friday now. - Is it Friday?
0:06:38 > 0:06:41- Yeah, it's Friday now.- Oh, I see.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44- Told you.- No, I was just going to correct him.- Yeah.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49- Friday.- Yeah, it is Friday, isn't it?- Yes, it is. Yeah, yeah.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- Thank God! Thank God it's Friday. - Yeah.
0:06:52 > 0:06:53APPLAUSE
0:06:53 > 0:06:56We don't have to get up in the morning.
0:06:56 > 0:06:58- No, lovely. A lie-in. - Have a lie-in.- Yeah.
0:06:59 > 0:07:02The movie - it's a kind of classic comedy caper.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04It's the two of you and Alan Arkin.
0:07:04 > 0:07:06So, tell us about it. Who do you play?
0:07:06 > 0:07:08What's it about?
0:07:08 > 0:07:09You start, go on.
0:07:09 > 0:07:10OK, I play a guy named Willie.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13I play a guy named Joe. He's very helpful.
0:07:13 > 0:07:16- He is really helpful. I want to see it now.- Yeah.
0:07:18 > 0:07:22We say that in the movie, you know, you'd be surprised.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25No, it's... What it is is a comedy about three old men
0:07:25 > 0:07:29who fall on hard times through different social reasons
0:07:29 > 0:07:31and they decide...
0:07:31 > 0:07:36In my case, they take away my mortgage
0:07:36 > 0:07:40and then the firm we work for closes and goes abroad
0:07:40 > 0:07:42and we all lose our pension.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45So we decide to rob the bank of exactly the amount of money
0:07:45 > 0:07:46we've lost.
0:07:47 > 0:07:50Which is what we do and then we get a bit over
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- and we give it away to charity. - AUDIENCE MURMUR
0:07:52 > 0:07:56- Yeah. But I disagree. - They're there!
0:07:56 > 0:08:00- He's going to disagree, listen. - Yeah, it isn't a comedy.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03Don't go to this movie, if you haven't been already,
0:08:03 > 0:08:07no, don't go thinking it's a comedy. It's not a comedy.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09Michael, this is not a comedy, I keep telling you.
0:08:09 > 0:08:11- Not a comedy. - Let me put it this way -
0:08:11 > 0:08:13it's a very funny drama.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19- Is that better? - LAUGHTER
0:08:23 > 0:08:25Almost.
0:08:25 > 0:08:28All right. Well, we have a clip. This is a...
0:08:28 > 0:08:31This is an amusing dramatic clip...
0:08:31 > 0:08:35where you've been practising your crime skills in a supermarket
0:08:35 > 0:08:38and this is the two of you making your getaway.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40- The escape, yeah.- Yeah.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42Willie. Al's gone.
0:08:42 > 0:08:43I've got a new getaway car.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- Where the hell did you get that thing?- I stole it.
0:08:46 > 0:08:47Jump in the basket.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49Who the hell do you think I am - ET?
0:08:49 > 0:08:51Willie, jump in the bloody basket!
0:08:51 > 0:08:52I'm not getting in no bloody basket!
0:08:59 > 0:09:02She's gaining on us.
0:09:02 > 0:09:04Flour, flour, give me the flour.
0:09:05 > 0:09:07Halt!
0:09:08 > 0:09:10Halt!
0:09:13 > 0:09:15SHE COUGHS
0:09:17 > 0:09:19I think we can make the light.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21No, no, no, you're not going to make the light, Joe.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24- You're not going to make the light! - WHISTLE BLOWS
0:09:24 > 0:09:26- Hey!- No, Joe, you can't make the light.- We can make the light!
0:09:26 > 0:09:29- We're going to die!- You're not going to make the light!- We are!
0:09:29 > 0:09:30THEY SCREAM
0:09:30 > 0:09:33Ooh! APPLAUSE
0:09:37 > 0:09:40Remember what he said - it's a drama.
0:09:40 > 0:09:43- That was very dramatic at the end. - With funny moments.- Yeah...
0:09:44 > 0:09:46But it is a big crowd-pleasing film.
0:09:46 > 0:09:48And what's interesting about it is, you know,
0:09:48 > 0:09:51you're the criminals but you're the good guys.
0:09:51 > 0:09:55- I mean, we're rooting for you. - Well, no, wait a minute, Graham.
0:09:55 > 0:09:56He's in a mood this evening.
0:09:58 > 0:10:02- We're the good guys.- Yes. - Not criminals.
0:10:02 > 0:10:05- Not lowlifes. Remember lowlifes? - Yeah, yeah. I remember them.
0:10:05 > 0:10:09- I grew up with them. - We're guys down on our luck
0:10:09 > 0:10:11who take desperate measures.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15- And the banks are the baddies in this, which...- See? Yes.- Yes.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19- They're the baddies.- We're on the same page - great.- OK.- Yeah.
0:10:19 > 0:10:21Yeah, the banks are the baddies, yes.
0:10:21 > 0:10:24Because there was a time, and I think... Is this right -
0:10:24 > 0:10:29the end of The Italian Job was because the sensors at the time
0:10:29 > 0:10:31wouldn't allow the criminals to get away with it?
0:10:31 > 0:10:34Yeah, that's the thing. We looked like we were getting away with it
0:10:34 > 0:10:37and we had to end it like that, we had to cut off the end
0:10:37 > 0:10:40because we were going to topple the car over
0:10:40 > 0:10:43and then collect the stuff at the end at the bottom of the cliff,
0:10:43 > 0:10:47but we had to stop it because we would've got away with the stuff.
0:10:47 > 0:10:51But there was a very thick morality then about every bloody thing.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53- Yeah.- Yeah.- But people...
0:10:53 > 0:10:56Remember when we were growing up, crime didn't pay?
0:10:56 > 0:10:58No. Crime didn't pay.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00Now ONLY crime pays.
0:11:04 > 0:11:06True.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08There's an awful truth to that.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11I only said it as a joke, but it's not, is it?
0:11:11 > 0:11:13Yeah, it kind of is true.
0:11:13 > 0:11:16And also I was saying to you backstage what's great is
0:11:16 > 0:11:19to see you guys playing, you know, leading men...
0:11:19 > 0:11:22- Yeah.- ..in a movie and it's about the three of you.
0:11:22 > 0:11:27Yeah, we're usually Grandpa and all that, you know, in a funny hat.
0:11:27 > 0:11:31- Yeah.- What I didn't understand with you, Morgan, is that,
0:11:31 > 0:11:34I mean, you started late but then you were also playing
0:11:34 > 0:11:38- older people, you know, early on cos...- Yes.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41..like, on stage, when you got the chauffeur for Driving Miss Daisy
0:11:41 > 0:11:46in the play, what were you, late 40s or something then?
0:11:46 > 0:11:48I was...
0:11:48 > 0:11:51Yeah, I was in my late 40s, uh-huh.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54- Playing old is not that difficult, you just...- No.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56But now, I heard a thing where your acting teacher -
0:11:56 > 0:11:59- I think his name was Mark Gordon. - Mark Gordon, yeah.
0:11:59 > 0:12:03- He gave you very specific advice about how to walk old.- Yeah.
0:12:03 > 0:12:08Yeah. The first thing he told us, that we learnt was,
0:12:08 > 0:12:12never cross the stage in an unbroken moment,
0:12:12 > 0:12:14in an unbroken movement, and next he said,
0:12:14 > 0:12:21"In order to play an old man, you have to imagine that your testicles
0:12:21 > 0:12:24"are made out of glass balls."
0:12:26 > 0:12:28Just in performance.
0:12:28 > 0:12:30I've never heard this story.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34You never told me this one.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37- There's more.- Go on, go on.
0:12:37 > 0:12:42And so that's sort of, you know, the way I go about it, you know,
0:12:42 > 0:12:45playing an old man, just walk carefully.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47I'll watch the movie again with interest.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50Did you see him come on?
0:12:50 > 0:12:52- I'll watch it back. - Watch him walk off.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56Yeah, I will. LAUGHTER
0:12:56 > 0:12:58I'll hear the bells.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01- Yeah, you'll think it sounds like a cocktail bar!- Yeah.
0:13:03 > 0:13:04Is that ice?
0:13:06 > 0:13:08We must briefly talk about Alfie,
0:13:08 > 0:13:10cos Alfie was obviously a very important film for you.
0:13:10 > 0:13:13- That was a very important film. - APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:13:16 > 0:13:18When you watch it, it's such a British film
0:13:18 > 0:13:23- and yet it was a success globally, wasn't it?- Yeah, everywhere.
0:13:23 > 0:13:25Everywhere except France -
0:13:25 > 0:13:27it wasn't a success.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31I had a best friend who was a Frenchman and I said to him,
0:13:31 > 0:13:34I said, "Alfie was a success all over the world."
0:13:34 > 0:13:36I said, "I was nominated for an Academy Awards," I said,
0:13:36 > 0:13:39"And it was a disaster in France." I said, "Why's that?"
0:13:39 > 0:13:42He said, "Well, we couldn't believe that an Englishman
0:13:42 > 0:13:44"could make love to ten women."
0:13:46 > 0:13:48I said, "There were 11!"
0:13:50 > 0:13:52And two of them were French!
0:13:55 > 0:13:57Yeah, twisting the knife!
0:13:57 > 0:14:01And talking of hit movies, Shawshank Redemption,
0:14:01 > 0:14:04- obviously...- Oh, great film. - ..one of your most... Yes.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07Everyone loves that movie. APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:14:09 > 0:14:10And that's one of those movies -
0:14:10 > 0:14:13anyone puts their, you know, best films of all time list together,
0:14:13 > 0:14:15- it's always on there. - Yeah, it's always on there.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18It's always on there and yet that film has never been a hit.
0:14:18 > 0:14:20Tanked at the box office.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23And the reason for that is, of course, is that
0:14:23 > 0:14:28the only real marketing movies get, I think, is word of mouth.
0:14:30 > 0:14:33You can promote it all you want,
0:14:33 > 0:14:37but if the first few audiences go there and come back
0:14:37 > 0:14:41and can't say, "I really saw this great film,"
0:14:41 > 0:14:43then you're not going to go very far.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46So people went to see The Shawshank Redemption
0:14:46 > 0:14:47and then they came back,
0:14:47 > 0:14:50"Oh, man, I saw this really terrific movie.
0:14:50 > 0:14:52"It's called the, erm...
0:14:53 > 0:14:54"Er...
0:14:56 > 0:14:59"Shanksham?
0:14:59 > 0:15:02"Shimshark?"
0:15:02 > 0:15:04One lady saw me in the elevator one time and she said,
0:15:04 > 0:15:07"Oh, I saw you in The Hudsucker Production!"
0:15:07 > 0:15:10APPLAUSE
0:15:10 > 0:15:14So, if you can't get word across, then it just doesn't do well.
0:15:14 > 0:15:18- Yeah.- If you can't say it... - That's why Alfie did well!
0:15:18 > 0:15:21Yeah. Boom - we got it.
0:15:21 > 0:15:26Is that the film that turned you into sort of Mr Narration?
0:15:26 > 0:15:28Yeah, that was it.
0:15:28 > 0:15:32Because it's so special, that narration.
0:15:32 > 0:15:36Now, we have got a little kind of Shawshank mashup.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39So would you mind lending your voice to it?
0:15:42 > 0:15:44- Ah, go on. Ah, go on.- OK.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46APPLAUSE AND CHEERING There you go.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58I must admit, I didn't think much of Graham Norton
0:15:58 > 0:16:00the first time I laid eyes on him.
0:16:02 > 0:16:05It looked like a stiff breeze could blow him over.
0:16:06 > 0:16:08That was my first impression of the man.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13I could see why some people took him for annoying.
0:16:16 > 0:16:21He had a walk and a talk that just wasn't normal around here.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25And boy, did he drink.
0:16:28 > 0:16:32He drank like a man without a care or a worry in the world.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38I hope to finish this talk show one day.
0:16:40 > 0:16:43I hope Michael stops talking for just one second.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49I hope people stop asking me to do stupid voice-overs like this.
0:16:52 > 0:16:54I hope.
0:16:55 > 0:16:59APPLAUSE AND CHEERING Very good. Morgan Freeman.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02Very good. Thank you very much for doing that.
0:17:06 > 0:17:10Right. It's time to meet our next guests tonight.
0:17:10 > 0:17:11Michael, are you feeling a little left out
0:17:11 > 0:17:15- in the reading aloud stakes? - Yeah, I am. Yeah.- Yeah, good.
0:17:15 > 0:17:16So, would you...?
0:17:16 > 0:17:19If you look down there, you can introduce the next guests.
0:17:19 > 0:17:24Right, my next guests are the stars of the new BBC comedy drama
0:17:24 > 0:17:25Decline And Fall.
0:17:25 > 0:17:28He is one of the UK's top comedians,
0:17:28 > 0:17:32and she is one of the stars of a Game Of Thrones -
0:17:32 > 0:17:34not a lot of people know that!
0:17:34 > 0:17:37Please welcome Jack Whitehall and Gemma Whelan.
0:17:37 > 0:17:38APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:17:38 > 0:17:42You stay there. Stay there. They'll move down there.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44Hello. Lovely to see you all.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47Hi. Lovely to see you.
0:17:47 > 0:17:48There you go.
0:17:48 > 0:17:50Michael, lovely to meet you.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54- Hi, Morgan.- Now... - Lovely to meet you.- And you.
0:17:54 > 0:17:58- Welcome both... JACK:- Hello. - ..Jack and Gemma. Here you all are.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00- Now, Morgan...- Oh!
0:18:00 > 0:18:03- He said I could touch him.- OK.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06- MICHAEL:- What's going on up there? - Nothing.
0:18:06 > 0:18:08Nothing.
0:18:08 > 0:18:10Yeah.
0:18:10 > 0:18:13I turn my back for one minute, a girl comes, you know...
0:18:13 > 0:18:16I'm going to watch the monitor.
0:18:16 > 0:18:18Morgan's scrunched down the couch instead of...
0:18:18 > 0:18:21- Yeah, he moved further away, look. - He's gone further away.
0:18:21 > 0:18:24Go ahead. Blame me.
0:18:24 > 0:18:25Have we got another guest?
0:18:25 > 0:18:29- No, no.- OK.- We might do.
0:18:29 > 0:18:31- So, you're very welcome, both of you.- Thank you.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33Congratulations on the success of Decline And Fall.
0:18:33 > 0:18:35- But I have to say, Morgan Freeman... - Yes.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37I don't know if you're familiar but you are in a film
0:18:37 > 0:18:39- with Jack Whitehall.- Huh?
0:18:41 > 0:18:44- Aren't you? JACK:- I made a very big impression.
0:18:44 > 0:18:46- No, you haven't done scenes. - No, that's so unfair...
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- No, you haven't done scenes together.- ..cos we were filming
0:18:48 > 0:18:51at a completely different time. The Nutcracker.
0:18:51 > 0:18:53- The Nutcracker.- See? See?
0:18:53 > 0:18:56- You set me up.- He did! He did!
0:18:58 > 0:18:59- Pleasure. Pleasure to meet you. - Yeah.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02We did that but we filmed at different times cos...
0:19:02 > 0:19:05Yeah, I was only working with the little girl and some extras.
0:19:05 > 0:19:07- Yeah.- Yeah.- I did a lot of scenes with the little girl -
0:19:07 > 0:19:08- she was amazing.- Yeah.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10- Although I had to do it with her on a horse.- On a horse?
0:19:10 > 0:19:13- Were you her Prince Charming? - Yeah, she's on horseback.
0:19:13 > 0:19:15- Yeah, I play one of the princes. - Yeah.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17And so I was stood there and she's on this horse
0:19:17 > 0:19:20and it was my first big scene and I was so nervous,
0:19:20 > 0:19:25my close-up and I'm doing a scene with her and all of a sudden,
0:19:25 > 0:19:27the horse just opens its bowels.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30I mean, and the arse, the horse's arse, is right there
0:19:30 > 0:19:32and I'm doing it and I'm carrying on with the scene
0:19:32 > 0:19:36and no-one else stops, so I'm like, "Oh, we just carry on, do we?"
0:19:36 > 0:19:37And I'm doing it and I'm thinking...
0:19:37 > 0:19:40And eventually I had to stop cos it wasn't just like a few pellets,
0:19:40 > 0:19:42this was like an avalanche.
0:19:42 > 0:19:43I go, "I'm so sorry. I can't,
0:19:43 > 0:19:45"I just can't carry on with it doing that."
0:19:45 > 0:19:47The poor horse had been holding that for...
0:19:47 > 0:19:48It'd been holding it in, yeah!
0:19:48 > 0:19:51And then everyone looked at me and they were like, "Oh, come on."
0:19:51 > 0:19:52We were up against the clock.
0:19:52 > 0:19:54I was like, "I don't want to be prissy about this."
0:19:54 > 0:19:57I'm fine if someone improvises or changes a line in a scene -
0:19:57 > 0:20:01I will roll with that - but if anything shits in front of me,
0:20:01 > 0:20:02I'm taking a time out.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05Are you supposed to keep going? No, you're supposed to stop.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08No. Er...
0:20:08 > 0:20:11- MICHAEL:- He stopped.- Actually, they're going to cut that scene.- Hm?
0:20:11 > 0:20:13They're going to cut that scene.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15They're going to cut it, they're not going to use it.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18I can't understand. I've grown up watching Westerns.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20You never see a horse dump anything,
0:20:20 > 0:20:22you never see anything on the streets in these little towns,
0:20:22 > 0:20:25horses lined up all along the street,
0:20:25 > 0:20:26nothing on the ground.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29- How did they do that? - How do they do that?
0:20:29 > 0:20:31- I know what they do. - JACK:- They wait for me.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37- No, cos, Gemma, in Game Of Thrones...- Yes.
0:20:37 > 0:20:39..you do a lot of horse acting.
0:20:39 > 0:20:40Oh...
0:20:40 > 0:20:42SHE WHINNIES
0:20:42 > 0:20:44Yes, I do. Erm...
0:20:44 > 0:20:48APPLAUSE That was very good.
0:20:48 > 0:20:50- Good.- Er...
0:20:50 > 0:20:53- I'm an all-right horsewoman. They taught me to ride a horse.- OK.
0:20:53 > 0:20:59But we did have a scene where it was a very, very farty horse
0:20:59 > 0:21:00and it wouldn't go,
0:21:00 > 0:21:03whatever the technical term for making a horse go.
0:21:03 > 0:21:04You do a little squeeze with the thighs.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07Yeah, but it wouldn't... With a kick it wouldn't go.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09But anyway, "pfft, pfft" all the way up while
0:21:09 > 0:21:13Alfie and I were doing our lines and it's a scene where we get quite...
0:21:13 > 0:21:16- Oh, is it that scene...- Yeah. - ..where Alfie...?- Oh, yeah.
0:21:16 > 0:21:18- Yeah.- Yes.
0:21:18 > 0:21:22And that was one of my audition scenes, which was quite interesting.
0:21:22 > 0:21:23But, no... But hang on.
0:21:23 > 0:21:27But I thought that the audition scene was the other way round.
0:21:27 > 0:21:28Yes, it was the other way round.
0:21:28 > 0:21:34So in the actual scene, it was Alfie...
0:21:34 > 0:21:37working away on me but in the audition...
0:21:37 > 0:21:39My mother's watching. "Working away."
0:21:39 > 0:21:41She'll ask me what that means.
0:21:41 > 0:21:42Has your mother not watched Game Of Thrones?
0:21:42 > 0:21:45- She has, she has.- I bet she knows. - She has.
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- Some things she doesn't ask about. - See?
0:21:47 > 0:21:49If anyone tunes in and hears you talking about Alfie
0:21:49 > 0:21:52working away on you, it might be quite strange...
0:21:55 > 0:21:57APPLAUSE
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- MICHAEL:- I don't remember being in this show.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03But in the original script, it was that my character...
0:22:03 > 0:22:08It said Yara, my character, is worrying his cock.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10- Worrying?- Yeah.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12"Did you leave the hob on?"
0:22:13 > 0:22:15Sorry, Morgan.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19- We established our relationship. - I think we did really early on.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21- That's some sort of bucket list, Gemma.- Yeah.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- "And then I said to Morgan Freeman..."- I mean, I can die,
0:22:24 > 0:22:26I can die.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29But she is worrying... And I obviously sort of understood that
0:22:29 > 0:22:33to be, you know, working away back there but anyway, thank...
0:22:33 > 0:22:36And I had to do that in my audition on a chair,
0:22:36 > 0:22:39sort of looking straight ahead very, very dramatically
0:22:39 > 0:22:41with just one casting director in a room
0:22:41 > 0:22:45and a very sort of ashamed cameraman going, "That's not how you do it."
0:22:46 > 0:22:49"Ooh! Oooh!"
0:22:50 > 0:22:52I got the job!
0:22:54 > 0:22:56And this is the final season of it, right?
0:22:56 > 0:22:59It is. Well, it is, but it's cut... It's split into two,
0:22:59 > 0:23:00like they did in Breaking Bad,
0:23:00 > 0:23:02they sort of cut the final season into two lots.
0:23:02 > 0:23:05So I think it's seven episodes and then eight episodes next year.
0:23:05 > 0:23:07- OK.- Which they're calling season eight but it's seven.
0:23:07 > 0:23:10- And are you in all of it?- Erm...
0:23:10 > 0:23:13- Maybe.- Hopefully.- Can't say.
0:23:13 > 0:23:15- Yeah, hopefully.- Yes...
0:23:17 > 0:23:19Now, look at this sofa, you look at this sofa
0:23:19 > 0:23:22and you've got two sort of veritable acting legends at this end.
0:23:22 > 0:23:24- JACK:- Thank you. - GEMMA LAUGHS
0:23:24 > 0:23:27And then more relative greenhorns, greenhorns down the other.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29So, I just wondered if there was any, you know, advice
0:23:29 > 0:23:32you could give the youngsters because, Jack, I know,
0:23:32 > 0:23:36you were a little paranoid and you foolishly googled yourself,
0:23:36 > 0:23:38- didn't you?- Oh, yeah.
0:23:38 > 0:23:42I'd read that... I'd read some things that you should remember
0:23:42 > 0:23:45when you're acting and one of them was about stillness.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47You have to be still in scenes.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49So I was like, "That's what I need to do -
0:23:49 > 0:23:51"I just need to be really still in every scene that I do."
0:23:51 > 0:23:54So I did this scene. I mean, I just didn't move,
0:23:54 > 0:23:58just stared at the person opposite and it went out,
0:23:58 > 0:23:59I was like, "I think I've got away with it."
0:23:59 > 0:24:02People would've thought I was all right and I googled myself
0:24:02 > 0:24:05- and I found a forum...- Uh-oh. - ..and the topic on the forum was,
0:24:05 > 0:24:07"Does Jack Whitehall have a glass eye?"
0:24:09 > 0:24:12And all these people discussing whether I had a glass eye or not,
0:24:12 > 0:24:14so then... And then it made that even worse
0:24:14 > 0:24:15cos the next time actually I was like,
0:24:15 > 0:24:18"I'm going to prove to them I don't have a glass eye."
0:24:18 > 0:24:22You can see my eyes are just like everywhere.
0:24:22 > 0:24:24- That's funny.- Never read anything.
0:24:24 > 0:24:27No, because, Michael Caine, you did the famous acting masterclasses.
0:24:27 > 0:24:30- MICHAEL:- Yeah, I did, yeah. - They were in the '80s, wasn't it?
0:24:30 > 0:24:33- Kind of '80s.- Yeah, it must've been the '80s.- Yeah.- Years ago.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35No, I remember. We all... In drama school, everybody watched them.
0:24:35 > 0:24:38- Did they?- Yeah.- I saw one. - Did you?
0:24:38 > 0:24:43Yeah, and it gave me a big lesson in movie acting.
0:24:43 > 0:24:44- A big lesson.- What was it?
0:24:44 > 0:24:47About where to look when you're on the close-up.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49- Yeah, I'm doing it to you now. - Yeah.- Yeah.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52- Find one eye and you look at it. - Yeah.
0:24:52 > 0:24:55Because in the movies, because it's so high,
0:24:55 > 0:25:00usually when you're engaged with someone,
0:25:00 > 0:25:03you're looking from eye to eye for some reason or other
0:25:03 > 0:25:05and in the movies,
0:25:05 > 0:25:10your eyes are jerking around like that and it's not really cool.
0:25:10 > 0:25:12It is cool. It's very cool.
0:25:19 > 0:25:21A little later, darling.
0:25:21 > 0:25:24No, you must also position...
0:25:24 > 0:25:26Behind you there's a camera, right?
0:25:26 > 0:25:28- Yeah.- I'm talking to you.- JACK:- Yep.
0:25:28 > 0:25:31- MICHAEL:- So if I'm naturally talking to you,
0:25:31 > 0:25:34my two eyes are on you here and we're talking.
0:25:34 > 0:25:37In a camera, I move over to there
0:25:37 > 0:25:40and my other eye is in the camera but I'm looking at you.
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- Oooh.- Very good. - That's the trick.- Wow.
0:25:42 > 0:25:45And you don't blink unless, you know,
0:25:45 > 0:25:47you've got something in your eye.
0:25:49 > 0:25:50- JACK:- I don't have to blink at all.
0:25:50 > 0:25:52- MICHAEL:- Marlene Dietrich told me that.
0:25:52 > 0:25:54- Marlene?- Marlene Dietrich told me that, yeah.
0:25:54 > 0:25:59I was at a birthday party for Liza Minnelli
0:25:59 > 0:26:03and her godmother was Marlene Dietrich.
0:26:03 > 0:26:07And then she saw me and I was just sort of famous as Alfie
0:26:07 > 0:26:12or something, you know, she knew who I was and she said to me,
0:26:12 > 0:26:15she said, "You're supposed to be a movie star,
0:26:15 > 0:26:17"why are you dressed so scruffily?"
0:26:17 > 0:26:21And she started giving me a bollocking about dressing.
0:26:21 > 0:26:23And I thought, "This is Marlene Dietrich," you know?
0:26:23 > 0:26:27And there was a buffet and she said, "There's a buffet,
0:26:27 > 0:26:28"let's have dinner."
0:26:28 > 0:26:30So I said, "OK, all right, OK."
0:26:30 > 0:26:33I said, "Come on, then, we'll go and choose."
0:26:33 > 0:26:36She said, "No, you choose." I said, "What do you want?"
0:26:36 > 0:26:38She said, "Whatever you have, I'll have it."
0:26:38 > 0:26:41And then I sat down and she said, "And another thing.
0:26:41 > 0:26:43"You're using the wrong eyes."
0:26:43 > 0:26:47And then she told me that story. It's amazing.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50And then someone else said, "Never blink."
0:26:50 > 0:26:52People don't like that when you blink, no.
0:26:52 > 0:26:54- JACK:- Never blink, what, keep them open...?
0:26:54 > 0:26:57- Unless there is a reason. - MICHAEL:- There's a reason...
0:26:57 > 0:26:59You can make comments with...
0:26:59 > 0:27:02I've talked to you without blinking the entire time.
0:27:02 > 0:27:04- JACK:- You didn't blink once? - MICHAEL:- No.
0:27:04 > 0:27:06- JACK:- I just assumed you may have had a glass eye.
0:27:06 > 0:27:07APPLAUSE
0:27:07 > 0:27:09- MICHAEL:- No, I'm just trying to be like you.
0:27:09 > 0:27:11- JACK:- Just keep them open?
0:27:11 > 0:27:14- MICHAEL:- A glass eye. You mustn't blink.
0:27:14 > 0:27:16Right, Decline And Fall. We're two weeks in,
0:27:16 > 0:27:18the last episode is next Friday.
0:27:18 > 0:27:21In fact, people have just been watching you on the telly now,
0:27:21 > 0:27:23- you were on a while ago. Next Friday...- Cos it's Friday.
0:27:23 > 0:27:27It's Friday, yeah. Next Friday, nine on BBC One.
0:27:27 > 0:27:30Well, obviously the boxset will be available on iPlayer.
0:27:30 > 0:27:35- It's the Evelyn Waugh novel... er, Paul Pennyfeather. JACK:- Yes.
0:27:35 > 0:27:37And so if people haven't seen it, who he?
0:27:37 > 0:27:39Who he? He is, erm, he's a man.
0:27:39 > 0:27:41I'm getting quite lazy in my old age as a chat show host.
0:27:41 > 0:27:43I'm just giving sort of...
0:27:43 > 0:27:45Film. What?
0:27:48 > 0:27:52He... He? Now I'm doing it. He a man who, er...
0:27:53 > 0:27:57He a man who expelled from university and then he becomes...
0:27:57 > 0:27:59- I'm doing it!- Yeah, stop it.
0:27:59 > 0:28:03He becomes a teacher in a school where he meets
0:28:03 > 0:28:06all these crazy people, one of whom is played by Gemma
0:28:06 > 0:28:09and one of whom is played by David Suchet,
0:28:09 > 0:28:13and he marries Eva Longoria, not in the book,
0:28:13 > 0:28:16she plays a woman in the book called Margot,
0:28:16 > 0:28:19he marries her and then he ends up going to prison and that's...
0:28:19 > 0:28:21- Oh, that's ruined it.- Spoiler alert, oops.- I've ruined it.
0:28:21 > 0:28:24- No, no, we know you're going to prison.- Yeah, you know... Yeah.
0:28:24 > 0:28:26- I definitely go to prison. - It says "next week"
0:28:26 > 0:28:29- and then you see you in prison. - Oh, yeah, I end up in prison.- Now...
0:28:29 > 0:28:31And then I escape tunnelling through the walls...
0:28:31 > 0:28:33No, now you're giving it away.
0:28:33 > 0:28:37No, I meet Morgan Freeman in the prison and he helps me escape.
0:28:37 > 0:28:40- I remember that.- We meet by a tree.
0:28:40 > 0:28:43I think I've got them confused now.
0:28:43 > 0:28:45Now, we have a clip of Decline And Fall. It's not...
0:28:45 > 0:28:47- MICHAEL:- That one? - ..that. No, it's not that.
0:28:47 > 0:28:50- JACK:- No, it's not that one. - That'll be in the DVD extras.- Yeah.
0:28:50 > 0:28:54No, this is... Gemma, your character, is she called Dinge?
0:28:54 > 0:28:56- Dingy.- Dingy.- Dingy Fagan. Diana, but Dingy Fagan.
0:28:56 > 0:28:57Yeah, Daddy's favourite.
0:28:57 > 0:29:00- Posh people are hilarious, aren't they?- Aren't they? Yeah.
0:29:00 > 0:29:02- They had Diana, we'll call her Dingy.- Yeah.
0:29:04 > 0:29:08So this is the two of you meeting at the school for the first time.
0:29:08 > 0:29:10DOOR OPENS
0:29:10 > 0:29:12Oh, and this is my other daughter.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15Diana, this is Paul Pennyfeather,
0:29:15 > 0:29:17- the new master. - Pleased to meet you.
0:29:17 > 0:29:19Don't listen to whatever Florence has just told you.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21- Do your own thing.- Shut up, Dingy.
0:29:21 > 0:29:23- Would you like tea?- Yes, please.
0:29:23 > 0:29:25I hope you brought some soap with you
0:29:25 > 0:29:28and boot polish and pens and paper for writing.
0:29:28 > 0:29:30- I'm afraid I didn't.- Oh, Father.
0:29:30 > 0:29:33I asked you to tell him the masters are not supplied
0:29:33 > 0:29:34with those luxuries.
0:29:34 > 0:29:36Well, it slipped my mind.
0:29:36 > 0:29:38- Do you take sugar?- Yes.
0:29:38 > 0:29:40- Did you bring any?- No.
0:29:40 > 0:29:42I can get some. Thank you.
0:29:42 > 0:29:46I've put you in charge of the fifth form.
0:29:46 > 0:29:50You'll find them delightful boys, quite delightful.
0:29:50 > 0:29:54I've also put you in charge of games, carpentry
0:29:54 > 0:29:56and the fire drill.
0:29:58 > 0:30:01The fire escape is very dangerous and never to be used...
0:30:01 > 0:30:03even in an emergency.
0:30:05 > 0:30:08APPLAUSE
0:30:08 > 0:30:09Very good.
0:30:09 > 0:30:13Now, I do have a slight issue, Jack,
0:30:13 > 0:30:16because you do take your clothes off in things a lot.
0:30:16 > 0:30:19- MICHAEL:- Do you?- JACK:- No... - Yes, you do!
0:30:19 > 0:30:21- No. Yeah, I have in the past.- Yes!
0:30:21 > 0:30:24And I was so looking forward to Decline And Fall, I was like,
0:30:24 > 0:30:26"This is a book, it's a period comedy drama.
0:30:26 > 0:30:30"This is going to be the first job where I keep my clothes on."
0:30:30 > 0:30:31- First scene.- Yeah.
0:30:31 > 0:30:33- MICHAEL:- Did you take your clothes off?
0:30:33 > 0:30:36- JACK:- But I had to! I had to cos it was in...- Not a body double.
0:30:36 > 0:30:39- Not a body double, that is my actual one.- Not that I know.
0:30:39 > 0:30:40Because the masterclass...
0:30:43 > 0:30:46That's the thing. The woman... I've done it so many times,
0:30:46 > 0:30:48- I've got my bum out...- Yes. - ..that the make-up lady
0:30:48 > 0:30:51had seen me in other things with my bum out and came up to me
0:30:51 > 0:30:54on day one, she was like, "Would you like a wax
0:30:54 > 0:30:57- "before we shoot that scene?" - Ooh!- A wax?
0:30:57 > 0:30:59- No, well, I couldn't.- Hot wax. - Cos it's set in 1928...
0:30:59 > 0:31:01- MICHAEL:- What, you've got a hairy bum?- JACK:- Yes, very, yeah.
0:31:01 > 0:31:03- MICHAEL:- Have you? - JACK:- Yeah.
0:31:03 > 0:31:06But, no, the masterclass, the masterclass says no to that.
0:31:06 > 0:31:10- MICHAEL:- No, don't do nudity because you...
0:31:10 > 0:31:12What you're actually doing, although you're acting
0:31:12 > 0:31:15and people are laughing or crying or doing whatever or being afraid,
0:31:15 > 0:31:17you are controlling what the audience is doing
0:31:17 > 0:31:19and where they're looking.
0:31:19 > 0:31:22The moment you take your clothes off, you've lost them.
0:31:22 > 0:31:25They immediately start to talk to each other.
0:31:25 > 0:31:27And it's done.
0:31:27 > 0:31:28- JACK:- Yeah. - LAUGHTER
0:31:28 > 0:31:30- Going, "Look at the hair on that." MICHAEL:- Yeah.
0:31:30 > 0:31:34- JACK:- But the key is to always look at one butt cheek, not two.
0:31:35 > 0:31:37- MICHAEL:- And the woman, one woman turns to the other and says,
0:31:37 > 0:31:41"My husband's got a bigger one than that."
0:31:41 > 0:31:44You know, and also, you must remember you're nervous.
0:31:44 > 0:31:46- JACK:- Yes.- MICHAEL:- So if you do a full frontal,
0:31:46 > 0:31:48it's not going to be very big.
0:31:49 > 0:31:51APPLAUSE
0:31:51 > 0:31:54- Yeah, let's draw a veil over this. - Let's draw a veil
0:31:54 > 0:31:55because it is time for music.
0:31:55 > 0:31:59But first, we must say goodbye to Michael and Morgan.
0:31:59 > 0:32:01It's been such a treat having you on the show.
0:32:01 > 0:32:03- Thank you so, so much for coming to see us.- Thank you.- Thank you.
0:32:03 > 0:32:05A huge thank you, ladies and gentlemen,
0:32:05 > 0:32:07to the great Morgan Freeman and Sir Michael Caine.
0:32:07 > 0:32:10APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:32:13 > 0:32:16APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
0:32:16 > 0:32:18- Lovely to meet you.- You, too. - There you go.
0:32:18 > 0:32:21- Thank you, all. Bye-bye. - Thank you very much. Cheers.
0:32:21 > 0:32:25APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:32:25 > 0:32:27Very good.
0:32:27 > 0:32:30Right, now it's time for our musical guests.
0:32:30 > 0:32:34It's 25 years since this band released their first single.
0:32:34 > 0:32:36Since then, they've had seven number one albums,
0:32:36 > 0:32:41won eight Brit Awards and sold over 45 million records.
0:32:41 > 0:32:45Here with an exclusive performance of Wonderland, it's Take That!
0:32:45 > 0:32:49APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:32:51 > 0:32:53# I'll be your king
0:32:53 > 0:32:56# I'll be your queen
0:32:56 > 0:32:59# And all that happens in-between
0:32:59 > 0:33:02# I'll be your fix
0:33:02 > 0:33:04# Your lucky dice
0:33:04 > 0:33:09# Here in wonderland, in paradise
0:33:09 > 0:33:11# Your serenader
0:33:11 > 0:33:13# Your hall of fame
0:33:13 > 0:33:15# Your force of nature
0:33:15 > 0:33:17# I'm back again
0:33:17 > 0:33:20# Your last confession
0:33:20 > 0:33:22# Your Holy Grail
0:33:22 > 0:33:24# Your first impression
0:33:24 > 0:33:27# From London to the USA
0:33:27 > 0:33:32# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:33:32 > 0:33:35# Get on my feet, get on my knees
0:33:35 > 0:33:37# For it
0:33:37 > 0:33:41# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:33:41 > 0:33:45# Everybody's feelin' wonderland
0:33:54 > 0:33:58# I'll take my place, my majesty
0:33:58 > 0:34:03# So put on your crown and dance with me
0:34:03 > 0:34:05# My fate awaits
0:34:05 > 0:34:08# A celebration
0:34:08 > 0:34:12# A part of your society
0:34:12 > 0:34:14# Don't leave me waiting
0:34:14 > 0:34:16# Don't leave me here
0:34:16 > 0:34:18# A life of times of
0:34:18 > 0:34:21# This time of year
0:34:21 > 0:34:23# My re-election
0:34:23 > 0:34:25# My final stand
0:34:25 > 0:34:28# My words of wisdom
0:34:28 > 0:34:31# From heaven to the promised land
0:34:31 > 0:34:35# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:34:35 > 0:34:39# Get on my feet, get on my knees
0:34:39 > 0:34:40# For it
0:34:40 > 0:34:44# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:34:44 > 0:34:47# Everybody's feelin' wonderland
0:34:49 > 0:34:51# And the music fills my body
0:34:51 > 0:34:53# And the music gives me joy
0:34:53 > 0:34:55# And the music gives me company
0:34:55 > 0:34:58# When I need somewhere to cry
0:34:58 > 0:35:00# Yeah, the feeling is sensational
0:35:00 > 0:35:02# And you gotta understand
0:35:02 > 0:35:04# How the music makes me feel
0:35:04 > 0:35:07# Wonderland
0:35:07 > 0:35:10# All your dreams are made
0:35:11 > 0:35:15# All your dreams are made
0:35:15 > 0:35:19# In wonderland
0:35:19 > 0:35:23# In wonderland... #
0:35:25 > 0:35:26Woo!
0:35:32 > 0:35:34Come on, everyone!
0:35:34 > 0:35:36Oh, yeah.
0:35:39 > 0:35:42# You wanna see the one you came here for... #
0:35:42 > 0:35:43One last time!
0:35:43 > 0:35:48# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:35:48 > 0:35:51# Get on my feet, get on my knees
0:35:51 > 0:35:52# For it
0:35:52 > 0:35:57# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:35:57 > 0:36:00# Everybody's feelin' wonderland
0:36:00 > 0:36:04- # Yeah - Music makes me feel good
0:36:04 > 0:36:06# Music makes me feel good
0:36:06 > 0:36:08- # Get on my feet - My feet
0:36:08 > 0:36:11- # Get on my knees - My knees
0:36:11 > 0:36:15# Music makes me feel good Music makes me feel good
0:36:15 > 0:36:18# Everybody's feelin' wonderland. #
0:36:19 > 0:36:21APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:36:21 > 0:36:23Thank you.
0:36:25 > 0:36:28Woo!
0:36:28 > 0:36:31Take That, everybody! Come on over, boys, do.
0:36:33 > 0:36:36Oh, lovely to see you. Lovely to see you.
0:36:36 > 0:36:40Nice to see you. Hi, lovely to see you.
0:36:41 > 0:36:44- Come in and sit down. - How are you?
0:36:44 > 0:36:46Jack and Gemma, that's Take That.
0:36:46 > 0:36:49APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
0:36:49 > 0:36:53- Very good. Very good. Sit down. Oh, there's Mark.- Hello.- Again!- Hi, hi.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56So, that was an exclusive performance
0:36:56 > 0:36:59of the title track off Wonderland.
0:36:59 > 0:37:01- This is... Now... GARY:- That's the vinyl.- I know!
0:37:01 > 0:37:03- I know, I've got so many of these. - It's a CD.
0:37:03 > 0:37:06- But they're big again, aren't they? - I know. Well, yeah.- Yeah.
0:37:06 > 0:37:09- They are big, look. - I know, huge!
0:37:09 > 0:37:10Never fit in the car.
0:37:10 > 0:37:14The... But it says that this is your eighth... It's out now.
0:37:14 > 0:37:16Eighth studio album. I'm sort of surprised.
0:37:16 > 0:37:18I thought you'd have more studio albums.
0:37:18 > 0:37:2025 years - eight seems quite lazy.
0:37:20 > 0:37:21LAUGHTER
0:37:21 > 0:37:24- I know there was "the break". - "The break."
0:37:24 > 0:37:26We were on a break. Remember that.
0:37:26 > 0:37:29- The missing years.- But they were ten years, that break, as well.
0:37:29 > 0:37:31- So...- Oh, OK, so 15 years, eight albums, that's about right.
0:37:31 > 0:37:33I agree with you, it doesn't sound that many.
0:37:33 > 0:37:35When you say, "Oh, this is their eighth album..."
0:37:35 > 0:37:37- You'd think we'd have done a few more.- Yeah.
0:37:37 > 0:37:40It feels like it, though, doesn't it?
0:37:40 > 0:37:43- It feels like we've done a lot more.- We've enjoyed every one.
0:37:43 > 0:37:45Right, now, tour...
0:37:45 > 0:37:48- The Wonderland, the big new stadium tour.- Yes.
0:37:48 > 0:37:50But is it true it's sold out?
0:37:50 > 0:37:53So there's no point mentioning it, really?
0:37:53 > 0:37:56- Erm...I think so. Yeah, but... - We start on May the 5th.
0:37:56 > 0:37:59- It's quite close to being sold out, to be honest.- Our tours are...
0:37:59 > 0:38:03You know, they're always... It's the highlight of our whole year, as well.
0:38:03 > 0:38:05- Yeah.- It's just always an event and
0:38:05 > 0:38:09with Wonderland being the title of it, of course,
0:38:09 > 0:38:12creatively for us we're going to be throwing everything at this show.
0:38:12 > 0:38:15- Have you guys seen Take That concerts?- Yep.
0:38:15 > 0:38:19- Gemma?- Yep... No.- Gemma hasn't... - I haven't.- ..but I've invited her.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22- Yeah, I'm going to go.- She's going to come this summer.- Yeah.
0:38:22 > 0:38:23- HOWARD:- Which ones have you seen, Jack?
0:38:23 > 0:38:25- I saw the one with the big... the big man.- Oh, yeah.
0:38:25 > 0:38:27- That was Progress.- Progress.
0:38:27 > 0:38:29The robot, is that what you're looking for?
0:38:29 > 0:38:32- The big robot, yeah.- I thought you were talking about Robbie!
0:38:32 > 0:38:34LAUGHTER
0:38:34 > 0:38:38Honestly, if you haven't seen a Take That concert, go,
0:38:38 > 0:38:39because it's amazing.
0:38:39 > 0:38:40Afterwards...
0:38:40 > 0:38:43You do realise you don't really need to be there?
0:38:43 > 0:38:46- I mean, there's so much... - Don't say that!
0:38:46 > 0:38:49No, honestly, if they popped a CD on and did that show,
0:38:49 > 0:38:51you'd leave perfectly happy.
0:38:51 > 0:38:53We're... I mean, I'm not...
0:38:53 > 0:38:56You know, I'm trying not to blow my on trumpet here, but I believe...
0:38:56 > 0:38:58HE MIMICS A TRUMPET
0:38:58 > 0:39:01For anyone that doesn't really like the music of Take That, I believe
0:39:01 > 0:39:04they could go to a Take That concert and go away very, very happy
0:39:04 > 0:39:06- with what they see.- Yes! - They put on a show.- Yeah.
0:39:06 > 0:39:08- They put on a show. - They put on a bloody show.
0:39:08 > 0:39:11I think half of that comes from, sort of, an insecure place, really
0:39:11 > 0:39:13from when we were sort of... I feel like we...
0:39:13 > 0:39:16Sometimes we feel like we, sort of, need to do that,
0:39:16 > 0:39:18put all that stuff around us to then make us, sort of, you know,
0:39:18 > 0:39:22- appear...- Good.- Yeah. - Appear good, yeah!- But also...
0:39:22 > 0:39:24- We need help.- We need help! - Lots of help.
0:39:24 > 0:39:25- JACK:- I'm exactly the same.
0:39:25 > 0:39:28Every show I do I'm like, "Let's have confetti cannons,
0:39:28 > 0:39:30- "let's have pyrotechnics..." - Yeah!
0:39:30 > 0:39:33I don't believe you cannot glitter a turd. You can.
0:39:36 > 0:39:39That's show business.
0:39:39 > 0:39:41- I've had injuries, haven't I, on these tours?- Yeah.
0:39:41 > 0:39:43I mean, one of the first tours we did in Berlin, he...
0:39:43 > 0:39:46Mark was like this with his hands to flip me over
0:39:46 > 0:39:49to do a full somersault and I landed on my finger.
0:39:49 > 0:39:52So we all went into the position of facing each other,
0:39:52 > 0:39:55two facing each other while Gary was singing,
0:39:55 > 0:39:58and the other two were looking at me like that, going...
0:39:58 > 0:40:01And I looked down and this finger was pointing in that direction.
0:40:01 > 0:40:03GROANING
0:40:03 > 0:40:04- It was awful.- Yep, yep.
0:40:04 > 0:40:07It was just a finger, it wasn't a leg or an arm
0:40:07 > 0:40:10but when you look at a finger in the wrong position it's like...
0:40:11 > 0:40:15And the best thing was we had this lift in the middle of the stage
0:40:15 > 0:40:16and he'd gone off and...
0:40:16 > 0:40:18It was his middle finger that was bent.
0:40:18 > 0:40:21..been told to bite on a towel and they pulled it back into place.
0:40:21 > 0:40:22GROANING
0:40:22 > 0:40:25And, of course, three numbers later, Howard comes up...
0:40:25 > 0:40:29LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:40:33 > 0:40:35Listen, very quickly, we must mention the musical.
0:40:35 > 0:40:38- The Band, the Take That musical. - Oh, I know. We were all a part.
0:40:38 > 0:40:41- We were all there.- Yes, all a part. We were there.
0:40:41 > 0:40:44- So, apparently, it's doing quite well.- We're very proud.
0:40:44 > 0:40:47We're very proud of the band, anyway because we feel very paternal
0:40:47 > 0:40:49- towards them.- Yeah, yeah.
0:40:49 > 0:40:52But, yes, the tickets have been on sale this week and we...
0:40:52 > 0:40:57You know, it's the fastest, highest grossing touring musical in history.
0:40:57 > 0:40:58- GEMMA:- Wow. - Wow!
0:40:58 > 0:41:02- So the guys are in for an incredible year.- Yeah.- Brilliant.
0:41:02 > 0:41:04APPLAUSE
0:41:05 > 0:41:08And, very quickly, Jack, you are also...
0:41:08 > 0:41:10It's not a tour, you're doing three shows.
0:41:10 > 0:41:12Yeah, I did a massive tour and then I'm doing... I'm extending it
0:41:12 > 0:41:15- and I'm going to do it again in the summer.- Oh, OK.- Yeah.
0:41:15 > 0:41:18- And there's going to be, like... - Shows and that.
0:41:18 > 0:41:20I'm like... I'm like Take That...
0:41:20 > 0:41:21No, I'm not like Take That, but...
0:41:21 > 0:41:24You know, I model myself on people like Take That.
0:41:24 > 0:41:26I like putting on a show. I like it being...
0:41:26 > 0:41:29There's a musical number at the end.
0:41:29 > 0:41:30I'm like, "Why not?"
0:41:30 > 0:41:32- Why the hell not?- Yeah. It's over then.
0:41:32 > 0:41:35Because I haven't written any jokes.
0:41:35 > 0:41:38And I'm filling five minutes with this.
0:41:38 > 0:41:39No, but it is... If I could...
0:41:39 > 0:41:44if I could sing, then that would be it. Stand-up would be over.
0:41:44 > 0:41:47- Stand-up is the hardest job in the world, it's got to be.- Yeah.
0:41:47 > 0:41:49No, but, like, I'd give it up in a second if I could...
0:41:49 > 0:41:53Even just do a bit of backing with you guys.
0:41:53 > 0:41:56- Are you asking? - Yeah, I'm offering it.
0:41:56 > 0:41:57LAUGHTER
0:41:57 > 0:42:00I'll do just a couple of weeks, see how it goes
0:42:00 > 0:42:03and if you don't like me, then just ditch me. But, like... I love...
0:42:03 > 0:42:05That, when you were doing that little...
0:42:05 > 0:42:08I was like... I was well into that. And I would throw myself into it.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11Not like him, there. I watched him doing that.
0:42:11 > 0:42:13No, but, like, they're going for it...
0:42:13 > 0:42:14He was singing very high.
0:42:14 > 0:42:16He was a passenger!
0:42:16 > 0:42:18LAUGHTER
0:42:18 > 0:42:21A very happy one!
0:42:21 > 0:42:23Well, listen, congratulations.
0:42:23 > 0:42:25Thanks for doing that. Good luck with the tour. Take That, everybody.
0:42:25 > 0:42:27Thank you.
0:42:27 > 0:42:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:42:30 > 0:42:33That's nearly it, but before we go, we do have time for a visit
0:42:33 > 0:42:35to the big red chair.
0:42:35 > 0:42:37I turn now. Who's up first? Hello!
0:42:37 > 0:42:41- Hello.- Hi! You're on. What's your name?- Wayne.
0:42:41 > 0:42:42Wayne. Lovely.
0:42:42 > 0:42:45- And what do you do, Wayne? - I'm a London bus driver.
0:42:45 > 0:42:49Woohoo! Maybe don't tell us the number of the bus,
0:42:49 > 0:42:52but what sort of area might you be in?
0:42:52 > 0:42:53Central London.
0:42:53 > 0:42:56Central London, you know, one of those buses.
0:42:56 > 0:42:58All right, Wayne, off you go with your story.
0:42:58 > 0:43:02Oh, OK. I was driving my bus one day and I arrived at a bus stop.
0:43:02 > 0:43:05I opened up both sets of doors and people were getting on and
0:43:05 > 0:43:07off as usual and then basically
0:43:07 > 0:43:10I was looking through my rear-view mirror
0:43:10 > 0:43:13and I see these four gentleman walking through the back doors.
0:43:13 > 0:43:17They were bringing on board a dining room table and chairs.
0:43:17 > 0:43:19I thought, "Oh, my God! What's going on here?"
0:43:19 > 0:43:21I said, "Excuse me." I said, "What's going on?"
0:43:21 > 0:43:24They said, "Ah, it's OK, driver, just carry on. Just drive.
0:43:24 > 0:43:26"You know, we're going to Edgware Road."
0:43:26 > 0:43:28And I thought, "Oh, God, what's this, the Last Supper?"
0:43:28 > 0:43:31And they actually put the chairs around the table in the disabled bay
0:43:31 > 0:43:33where the wheelchair goes.
0:43:33 > 0:43:35And I said, "No, there must be some mix-up here."
0:43:35 > 0:43:38I said... "It's got..." "You've got to be needing a removal company
0:43:38 > 0:43:39"not a bus company."
0:43:39 > 0:43:42And needless to say, at the end of it, they got off.
0:43:44 > 0:43:45LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:43:45 > 0:43:48Wayne!
0:43:48 > 0:43:50It started so well!
0:43:50 > 0:43:53We really held on then, didn't we? We held on.
0:43:53 > 0:43:55We did. I thought there was going to be a climax.
0:43:55 > 0:43:58I was hanging on, hanging on, hanging on.
0:43:58 > 0:44:00- That was so much.- I know!
0:44:00 > 0:44:02People are... You know, what's the funniest,
0:44:02 > 0:44:04most interesting thing that's ever happened to you?
0:44:04 > 0:44:08Wayne drives a bus every day and that's it.
0:44:10 > 0:44:13That's it. No heart attacks, nobody shat themselves. Nothing.
0:44:16 > 0:44:18"And, sure enough, they got off."
0:44:21 > 0:44:25- Wayne!- Yeah, Wayne, yeah...
0:44:25 > 0:44:29OK, I'm... I'm going to be a little stricter from now on.
0:44:29 > 0:44:31- Seriously, didn't you think...? - And we thought...
0:44:31 > 0:44:34Wayne's stories are like London buses, you wait ages for one
0:44:34 > 0:44:35and then it never comes!
0:44:39 > 0:44:41OK. Let's try somebody. Here we go.
0:44:41 > 0:44:44- Hello.- Hello. - Hi. What's your name?
0:44:44 > 0:44:46- Valerio.- Valerio!
0:44:46 > 0:44:48- Where are you from, Valerio?- Italy. - Italy, lovely.
0:44:48 > 0:44:50- And do you live here? - Yes.
0:44:50 > 0:44:53- What do you do here, Valerio? - I'm a logistics manager.
0:44:53 > 0:44:56- Oh...- Gemma!- I was getting...!
0:44:56 > 0:44:58I'm with you! Oh, my God! Gemma's on fire.
0:44:58 > 0:45:01She's like, "Oh, I hate logistical managers!"
0:45:02 > 0:45:05- I want to touch it. - All right!
0:45:08 > 0:45:10It's Morgan all over again.
0:45:10 > 0:45:14I love when you were talking to Morgan Freeman's penis.
0:45:14 > 0:45:16That's my favourite bit of the show -
0:45:16 > 0:45:19was when you were bending down, talking to it.
0:45:20 > 0:45:24- I'm sorry, Valerio, we got distracted.- Make Mummy proud.
0:45:24 > 0:45:26OK, off you go with your story, Valerio.
0:45:26 > 0:45:32OK, so I am here tonight to surprise my beautiful wife Alma.
0:45:32 > 0:45:36- Alma?- Yeah, she's actually in the audience tonight.- Oh, where's Alma?
0:45:36 > 0:45:39Are you sure? She may have left... Oh, no, there she is.
0:45:39 > 0:45:41- She's over there. - That's the surprise.
0:45:41 > 0:45:43Yeah, surprise, she's gone!
0:45:43 > 0:45:46No, your beautiful wife Alma is still here. Off you go, Valerio.
0:45:46 > 0:45:50- Is this a nice surprise? - Yes, of course.- OK.
0:45:50 > 0:45:53- She's pregnant with our first baby. - Oh!
0:45:53 > 0:45:56- We don't know yet the gender of the baby...- Oh, yes.
0:45:56 > 0:46:00..because I really want to wait until the baby is born.
0:46:00 > 0:46:03- Of course, Valerio.- But she really wants to know as soon as possible.
0:46:03 > 0:46:08- Oh, yes.- So the doctor wrote...
0:46:08 > 0:46:12- ..on this piece of paper...- Oh! - ..the gender of the baby.
0:46:12 > 0:46:16And I said to her we will open on a special occasion.
0:46:16 > 0:46:20- Oh, yes.- So, because she loves you and your show,
0:46:20 > 0:46:22- I believe that tonight is the best occasion.- Oh, yes!
0:46:22 > 0:46:24- GARY:- Brilliant.
0:46:24 > 0:46:27- May I open?- Yes, do. - Don't you dare pull that lever!
0:46:27 > 0:46:32LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:46:32 > 0:46:34We'll get him back! We'll get him back. No, wait, we'll get him back.
0:46:34 > 0:46:36We'll get him back!
0:46:40 > 0:46:42We'll get him back, we'll get him back, we'll get him back.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44OK, get Valerio back. Get Valerio back.
0:46:44 > 0:46:46I'm sorry! I'm sorry, Valerio.
0:46:46 > 0:46:48I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
0:46:48 > 0:46:50OK, this is it. Wait, wait, wait. Here we go.
0:46:50 > 0:46:52- So, Alma... Alma?- Are you ready?
0:46:52 > 0:46:55It'll be a boy or a girl.
0:46:55 > 0:46:58- JACK:- And if it's a boy, you're calling it Wayne!
0:46:58 > 0:47:01- Here we go, here we go. - The baby...
0:47:01 > 0:47:02is a girl!
0:47:05 > 0:47:08Well done, Valerio! You can walk, you can walk.
0:47:08 > 0:47:10- Amazing!- Awww!
0:47:10 > 0:47:13Well done, everyone. Congratulations, Alma!
0:47:13 > 0:47:15Aw, a little baby girl!
0:47:16 > 0:47:19If you'd like to join us on the show and have a go in that red chair,
0:47:19 > 0:47:22you can contact us via our website at this very address...
0:47:22 > 0:47:23That's it for tonight.
0:47:23 > 0:47:25Please say thank you to my guests Take That...
0:47:25 > 0:47:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:47:27 > 0:47:29..Jack Whitehall... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:47:29 > 0:47:31..Gemma Whelan... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:47:31 > 0:47:33..and, of course, the great Morgan Freeman
0:47:33 > 0:47:35and Sir Michael Caine.
0:47:35 > 0:47:37Join me next week with musical guests Jennifer Hudson,
0:47:37 > 0:47:40actress Keeley Hawes, Doctor Who Peter Capaldi,
0:47:40 > 0:47:45comedian Miranda Hart and Hollywood legend Warren Beatty.
0:47:45 > 0:47:47I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!
0:47:47 > 0:47:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE