Episode 11

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05Evening! This is Mark Hamill saying, welcome to the Graham Norton Show!

0:00:05 > 0:00:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:07 > 0:00:14This programme contains some strong language

0:00:22 > 0:00:24Oh!

0:00:24 > 0:00:28Oh, lovely to see you.

0:00:28 > 0:00:33Lovely to see you. Hi, hi. Hi, hi, yeah.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36Hello, you're all very welcome.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38Thank you. What a lovely welcome.

0:00:38 > 0:00:42Wow, we should do this again! Great show tonight.

0:00:42 > 0:00:43Yes, Luke Skywalker himself,

0:00:43 > 0:00:45Mark Hamill, is here for the first time.

0:00:47 > 0:00:48There he is.

0:00:48 > 0:00:50Do you know, there's something about that beard

0:00:50 > 0:00:53that makes him look so dignified and handsome.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57Mark is here with other members of the cast

0:00:57 > 0:01:00of the new Star Wars movie, The Last Jedi, ladies and gentlemen.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02AUDIENCE: Woo!

0:01:02 > 0:01:05Sofa, packed it will be.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Hasn't it been cold this week?

0:01:07 > 0:01:09I said cold, cold! It has been cold.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12In this weather, it's a good idea to check on the old and infirm

0:01:12 > 0:01:14to make sure they're OK.

0:01:14 > 0:01:15Thanks for asking, I'm fine.

0:01:16 > 0:01:19A lot of people have been out building snowmen.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21And some of them really love Star Wars.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23Look at the detail in that.

0:01:23 > 0:01:24Little BB-8 made out of snow.

0:01:24 > 0:01:27Although, some people have been messing about with snowmen,

0:01:27 > 0:01:30putting the carrot in an inappropriate place.

0:01:32 > 0:01:35Come on, guys, if 2017 has taught us anything,

0:01:35 > 0:01:38you mustn't put your carrot in an inappropriate place.

0:01:38 > 0:01:40I don't know why they bother.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43If you want to see something round and stupid with an orange willy,

0:01:43 > 0:01:44just turn the news on.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Let's get some guests on!

0:01:48 > 0:01:51Later we'll have music and a chat from singer-songwriter,

0:01:51 > 0:01:53Mr Sam Smith will be here!

0:01:53 > 0:01:57He'll be performing his number one hit, Too Good At Goodbyes.

0:01:57 > 0:02:00But let's meet the stars of The Last Jedi.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02She's the breakout British star of Game of Thrones

0:02:02 > 0:02:05and Top of the Lake, please welcome Gwendoline Christie!

0:02:05 > 0:02:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:02:07 > 0:02:10Hello!

0:02:12 > 0:02:14In you go, Gwendoline Christie!

0:02:16 > 0:02:18He's your favourite Stormtrooper turned hero,

0:02:18 > 0:02:21and one of our fastest-rising stars, it's John Boyega!

0:02:21 > 0:02:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:02:26 > 0:02:28Very nice to meet you. Have a seat.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34She stepped off the Orient Express to board the Millennium Falcon,

0:02:34 > 0:02:37reprising her role as Rey, please welcome Daisy Ridley!

0:02:37 > 0:02:39CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:02:39 > 0:02:41She glimmers, she shimmers.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44Oh, what a star.

0:02:47 > 0:02:49And he's the man who started it all, 40 years ago,

0:02:49 > 0:02:52now Luke Skywalker's back to save the galaxy.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55It's a great pleasure to welcome for the first time, Mr Mark Hamill!

0:02:55 > 0:02:58CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:03:03 > 0:03:06So nice to see you.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08Shove up a bit. Shove up.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11There you go. Into the zone, into the zone.

0:03:11 > 0:03:16- Lovely to see you all. Welcome, welcome, welcome.- Thank you.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20- This week you had the big London premiere.- Yes.- You were all there.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23- You all got to meet Royalty?- Yeah.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27I said, after, you know, Your Royal Highness, and doing all that.

0:03:27 > 0:03:30I said, "Can you settle this for me?

0:03:30 > 0:03:35"My mother was Queen Amidala. My father was Lord Vader.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37"My sister is Princess Leia,

0:03:37 > 0:03:40"doesn't that make me royalty?"

0:03:40 > 0:03:43I was hoping that they would agree.

0:03:43 > 0:03:48William said, "Well, absolutely. I think that should make you royalty."

0:03:48 > 0:03:53Harry said, "I think I need more information."

0:03:53 > 0:03:55Here's the thing, they're in the movie.

0:03:55 > 0:03:59Are you allowed to tell us which stormtroopers they are?

0:03:59 > 0:04:02You have to compare with body type and figure it out.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04I only had one question for Harry when I met him,

0:04:04 > 0:04:09was whether he was going to have Nigerian catering at the wedding.

0:04:09 > 0:04:11I hadn't met them before

0:04:11 > 0:04:15and I also hadn't realised my dress was slightly sheer.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19I was almost naked when I met royalty for the first time.

0:04:19 > 0:04:20Were they very good with eyes?

0:04:20 > 0:04:22They really kept the gaze up.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28And the party was in their house.

0:04:28 > 0:04:29In Kensington Palace.

0:04:29 > 0:04:31- Is that their house?- I don't know.

0:04:31 > 0:04:34Because they talk about the cottage.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36I'm like, is it a cottage?

0:04:36 > 0:04:39That bit we know it's not true.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43Is there a function room, how does it work?

0:04:43 > 0:04:47You walk past like a mess, where people... It's like a canteen.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49I thought, is that where we're going?

0:04:49 > 0:04:50They had a lovely thing upstairs.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53Was that a red throne room place with a...

0:04:53 > 0:04:57I wanted to pose for photographs and was dragged away by someone.

0:04:57 > 0:04:58Yeah, same!

0:05:00 > 0:05:02Oh, that was your feet!

0:05:02 > 0:05:07I had to resist the urge to nick an ashtray as a souvenir.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10I think they leave things out for people to steal.

0:05:10 > 0:05:11- Yes.- Yes.

0:05:11 > 0:05:14We're coming across as so broke right now.

0:05:15 > 0:05:17It's the big premiere.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20The Boyega clan were out in force.

0:05:20 > 0:05:23- Absolutely, man. You bagged extra tickets.- Aw, the babies!

0:05:23 > 0:05:27- This is your nephew.- Yes, little JJ.

0:05:27 > 0:05:32- He's not called JJ after JJ Abrams? - No, no, no.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34I thought it might have been a nod.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36He is named after Jar-Jar.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41APPLAUSE

0:05:44 > 0:05:47Did you bring everyone to Kensington Palace?

0:05:47 > 0:05:51- No, everyone came down to the Palace as well.- Woohoo!

0:05:51 > 0:05:56As soon as 30 minutes in, my dad was like, "Where is the proper food?"

0:05:56 > 0:05:58We had to leave real quick.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02Gwendoline, even if you weren't in these films,

0:06:02 > 0:06:04you would be at that premiere.

0:06:04 > 0:06:06You are a proper Star Wars fan?

0:06:06 > 0:06:10I have been a Star Wars fan since I was six years old.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13I've really done my best to keep away from you, Mark,

0:06:13 > 0:06:15not to bother and harass you.

0:06:15 > 0:06:18How amazing that then you were in the Star Wars thing

0:06:18 > 0:06:19but also Game of Thrones.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22APPLAUSE

0:06:22 > 0:06:26When those people at premieres see you, Game of Thrones and Star Wars,

0:06:26 > 0:06:30they must have felt like a nerdgasm?

0:06:30 > 0:06:32I think that's what it's called.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35Only occasionally there's an emission.

0:06:35 > 0:06:36Eww!

0:06:36 > 0:06:38Oh, my God!

0:06:42 > 0:06:46This is it, ladies and gentlemen. Episode VIII of the Star Wars saga,

0:06:46 > 0:06:48The Last Jedi. It's now open everywhere.

0:06:48 > 0:06:52Before we talk about it, let's have a little look, a taste of the movie.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57Let the past die.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00Kill it.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05If you have to.

0:07:05 > 0:07:09That's the only way to become what you're meant to be.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18CHEWBACCA ROARS

0:07:18 > 0:07:19PORG SCREECHES

0:07:21 > 0:07:23We have a spark that will light the fire

0:07:23 > 0:07:25that will burn the First Order down.

0:07:27 > 0:07:28Come on!

0:07:30 > 0:07:32This is not going to go

0:07:32 > 0:07:35the way you think.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39Fulfil...

0:07:39 > 0:07:43..your destiny!

0:07:45 > 0:07:46Ooh!

0:07:46 > 0:07:47APPLAUSE

0:07:47 > 0:07:49Very good.

0:07:53 > 0:07:58I mean, I was saying, Star Wars is review proof,

0:07:58 > 0:08:00but wow, these reviews have been amazing. And it is, it's great.

0:08:00 > 0:08:03You must be delighted with it, all of you.

0:08:03 > 0:08:06It's funny being in it but still being able to watch the trailers

0:08:06 > 0:08:08and get the same goose bumps because it is Star Wars.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11Like Mark, we still get to find some sense of detachment to it,

0:08:11 > 0:08:13- it hasn't been so long for us. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16Experiencing that, it just gives you the goose bumps, man.

0:08:16 > 0:08:18Mark, please reassure everyone

0:08:18 > 0:08:21you are in this film more than in the last one?

0:08:21 > 0:08:26I can assure you all in this movie my part is twice as big.

0:08:26 > 0:08:28Two pages!

0:08:28 > 0:08:31I appear and I turned the page and it said, "The end."

0:08:31 > 0:08:33I went, "What?!"

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Why did they train me for a year?

0:08:36 > 0:08:38Did you they make you train for a year for that?

0:08:38 > 0:08:40Oh, yeah. I went twice a week.

0:08:40 > 0:08:43I actually drove to the gym,

0:08:43 > 0:08:47Carrie had the equipment installed in her house.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49There were numerous times when she'd come to the door and say,

0:08:49 > 0:08:53"Oh, is it today? I'm not in the mood."

0:08:54 > 0:08:56I rearranged my whole schedule.

0:08:56 > 0:09:00Never late. Never missed a session.

0:09:00 > 0:09:02It was probably smart of them

0:09:02 > 0:09:06because if JJ had told me what my participation was,

0:09:06 > 0:09:09I probably wouldn't have been motivated to stay on

0:09:09 > 0:09:12the "if it tastes good, don't eat it" diet.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15I could have been the size of Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now,

0:09:15 > 0:09:19in those robes nobody would know.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21We find you on the Irish crag.

0:09:21 > 0:09:24It's Skellig Michael, is it Skellig Michael?

0:09:24 > 0:09:27Skellig Michael off the coast of Ireland.

0:09:27 > 0:09:28WHOOP FROM CROWD

0:09:28 > 0:09:31It is like a big ad for Irish tourism.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33- Oh, yeah.- It looks fabulous, it really does.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37Daisy, you were there to find him?

0:09:37 > 0:09:40- I was.- Yes.- Or Rey was.

0:09:40 > 0:09:43Imagine if you had just been living there and I was like, "Mark!"

0:09:43 > 0:09:47When I first read the script, since I was only in it for 20 seconds,

0:09:47 > 0:09:50I said, "This will be green screen."

0:09:50 > 0:09:52I'll just go up the road to JJ's studio in Santa Monica

0:09:52 > 0:09:54and I'll be done by lunchtime.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58Little did I know, cos Skellig Michael, boy, you climb...

0:09:58 > 0:10:00There's over 600 steps.

0:10:00 > 0:10:03I asked, "How long are you giving the crew to get up there?"

0:10:03 > 0:10:07They said, "About 45 minutes." I said, "Give me an hour-and-a-half."

0:10:07 > 0:10:09I had to rest every 15 minutes. It was brutal.

0:10:09 > 0:10:15- A big part of the movie is the Jedi training.- Right.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19It kind of harks back to when you got your Jedi training from Yoda.

0:10:19 > 0:10:25There you are. You recreated that with Daisy.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27- We did.- It went quite viral.

0:10:27 > 0:10:28Here you are.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33Strong legs, Daisy Ridley.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36Oh, yeah! I've been working out a lot.

0:10:36 > 0:10:38And also Mark too.

0:10:38 > 0:10:43One of the things, fans will really like the porgs

0:10:43 > 0:10:46- which live on your island. - That's right.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49Oh, look at the porg!

0:10:51 > 0:10:53Is it true, these got you in trouble with Disney, Mark?

0:10:53 > 0:10:57A little bit. There was a picture of Luke surrounded by porgs.

0:10:57 > 0:11:03I just reposted the picture with the hashtag, wholesome porgnography.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09Disney said, "Don't do that.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12"A little close to adult humour there."

0:11:12 > 0:11:14I don't think you deleted it, though.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18It's because the cape is open.

0:11:20 > 0:11:22Porgnography!

0:11:22 > 0:11:24Neighbourhood flasher!

0:11:24 > 0:11:28But the fans have gone big on the porgs.

0:11:28 > 0:11:32They found those images of the porgs, they like them.

0:11:32 > 0:11:37They have already imagined porgs in other films. Spin-offs.

0:11:37 > 0:11:40There is the classic...

0:11:40 > 0:11:41Oh, my God!

0:11:41 > 0:11:42That's good.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45What else have they put them in? Alien.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51And, oh, beautiful, this.

0:11:51 > 0:11:52Titanic.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55- Wow.- It's not just movies.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58They've also imagined them appearing in art.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00- That's amazing!- Nice.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02And even politics, ladies and gentlemen.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08- APPLAUSE - Please.

0:12:11 > 0:12:14John, did you worry at the end of the last film?

0:12:14 > 0:12:17You knew were coming back, cos you signed for three, right?

0:12:17 > 0:12:20Have you?

0:12:21 > 0:12:22Haven't you?

0:12:22 > 0:12:27- We can't...- Oh, no, the rumours are going to start.- Oh, man...

0:12:27 > 0:12:29Now you're starting a rumour that you're not in the next film.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31- Exactly!- Yes...

0:12:31 > 0:12:33See Star Wars.

0:12:33 > 0:12:37- It's such an amazing film. - Renegotiation,

0:12:37 > 0:12:41right here before your very eyes.

0:12:41 > 0:12:44You must have been worried at the end of the first one, thinking,

0:12:44 > 0:12:49"In a coma... I wonder how much I will have in the next film."

0:12:49 > 0:12:52Yeah. To be honest, when that slash went up my back,

0:12:52 > 0:12:54they added extra leather pieces flying around.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56I saw a bit of blood and I was like,

0:12:56 > 0:12:58"Wow, that mortgage is not getting paid.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- But I'm back. - You are very much back.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06One of the things we saw in the clip there,

0:13:06 > 0:13:08Finn and Captain Phasma, you get into it.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- You have a big fight.- Mm-hm.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13You have been saying how, I guess it's ying and yang.

0:13:13 > 0:13:18- You were in the outfit, which must make it harder.- It's not ideal.

0:13:18 > 0:13:23Not ideal to even move really in the outfit, let alone fight John.

0:13:23 > 0:13:28If you see what she was doing and the training, she was ferocious.

0:13:28 > 0:13:29I was like, "Can she actually see?"

0:13:29 > 0:13:33Every time I was swinging at her, I was just doing...

0:13:34 > 0:13:37You've got to fight ahead as though you can see. Just lashing out.

0:13:37 > 0:13:40You've got Muhammad Ali reach. I felt the air on some of them.

0:13:40 > 0:13:44My word, the strength, there was a moment of contact.

0:13:44 > 0:13:49The power with which John met me with, I will never forget.

0:13:49 > 0:13:53- That was...- A powerful moment. - ..me trying to save my own life.

0:13:55 > 0:13:57I would say, if I was a betting man,

0:13:57 > 0:14:01in that fight, I would put money on Gwendoline.

0:14:03 > 0:14:06- You do have the advantage. - We kind of talked about this.

0:14:06 > 0:14:10I have a higher centre of gravity. That's not an advantage.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14I've got a contract on my side!

0:14:16 > 0:14:18APPLAUSE

0:14:22 > 0:14:25Can you do a face-off for us? Do a face-off.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28The start of the match.

0:14:28 > 0:14:30- It only works if you stand.- Stand.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32I'm just warming up my knees.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34Don't do tippy-toes again.

0:14:39 > 0:14:41Here we go, here we go.

0:14:49 > 0:14:50That is impressive.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:14:55 > 0:14:59One of the things you have got to deal with in these sort of things

0:14:59 > 0:15:02is that intense secrecy about the plot details.

0:15:02 > 0:15:05John, I heard you were on Radio 1 saying you cannot

0:15:05 > 0:15:07keep all the secrets yourself.

0:15:07 > 0:15:10No. Yeah, you can't, especially now on the second film,

0:15:10 > 0:15:13you've got to have at least one person you tell everything to.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16- So you tell everything to one person.- Absolutely.

0:15:16 > 0:15:19- Who did you pick? - My roommate, Stefan.

0:15:19 > 0:15:22- I tell him everything.- But now everyone knows that he knows.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25I am not giving you the second name, though, am I?

0:15:25 > 0:15:28He lives in your house!

0:15:28 > 0:15:30It's like Fort Knox.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35Daisy, I imagine you are like a sphinx, you don't crack.

0:15:35 > 0:15:39- Inscrutable.- I can't keep my own secrets, terrible,

0:15:39 > 0:15:41but those of other people, fantastic.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44People do often tell me things about themselves,

0:15:44 > 0:15:48without me asking, and someone said it's because I have a big face,

0:15:48 > 0:15:50I look honest.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52Seriously!

0:15:52 > 0:15:54Other people's secrets I can keep no sweat.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57Is one of the reasons you can keep the secret because

0:15:57 > 0:15:59you don't really know the plot?

0:15:59 > 0:16:01I mean...

0:16:01 > 0:16:04I was surprised by this film, yeah.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07I'd read it and then I put it away

0:16:07 > 0:16:10and I did my bit and I went to the set a couple of times,

0:16:10 > 0:16:13but otherwise, you know, I went home!

0:16:15 > 0:16:17Gwendoline, again, it's this double whammy.

0:16:17 > 0:16:21It's so weird because why would fans want to know

0:16:21 > 0:16:25- what's going to happen, and yet they have to know.- Yeah.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28You've had quite extreme things, particularly Game Of Thrones.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30Yeah, that was really extreme.

0:16:30 > 0:16:34I was having root canal surgery

0:16:34 > 0:16:36and I was in the chair at the dentist

0:16:36 > 0:16:40and there was a clamp holding my mouth open

0:16:40 > 0:16:44and I had the bib and all the lovely plastic things around there

0:16:44 > 0:16:48and I was reclined back in the chair, feeling, you know,

0:16:48 > 0:16:50it wasn't an ideal situation, really,

0:16:50 > 0:16:51and the dentist left the room.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53I am lying there with the mouth open

0:16:53 > 0:16:56and the dental nurse hits me on the thigh and says,

0:16:56 > 0:16:59"Now tell me what happens in Game of Thrones!"

0:16:59 > 0:17:03She literally had me where she wanted me.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06She wasn't going to let me go.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09She said, "What is it like being naked with Jaime Lannister,

0:17:09 > 0:17:12"is it sexy? Tell me it's sexy!"

0:17:12 > 0:17:16I'm just gargling, trying to breathe.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18Mark Hamill, you had the grandaddy.

0:17:18 > 0:17:21You had, I mean, one of the biggest secrets in cinema history,

0:17:21 > 0:17:23that Darth Vader was your father.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26Spoiler alert!

0:17:26 > 0:17:31Kids are just on Episode Two. "What?!"

0:17:31 > 0:17:34So how long did you have to keep that secret?

0:17:34 > 0:17:37Well, the contrast was when we did Star Wars, nobody cared.

0:17:37 > 0:17:41You know, I read it and I gave it to my friend to read.

0:17:41 > 0:17:44I said, "This is the goofiest thing I've ever read."

0:17:44 > 0:17:47He called and he said, "You're right, it is goofy.

0:17:47 > 0:17:52"Can I give it to Meredith?" I said, "Sure!" I passed it all around.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54Nobody cared.

0:17:54 > 0:17:58- By the second film, that's when the scrutiny became more intense.- Yeah.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02There was a wonderful substitute revelation.

0:18:02 > 0:18:07In that scene, the way we filmed it, Vader said,

0:18:07 > 0:18:11"You don't know the truth, Obi-Wan killed your father."

0:18:11 > 0:18:15And the idea of Alec Guinness being the real villain,

0:18:15 > 0:18:17I thought, "Wow, what a spectacular twist."

0:18:17 > 0:18:19And it's just as you see in the film,

0:18:19 > 0:18:22"No! Search your feelings, you know it's true."

0:18:22 > 0:18:23Wallop, the hand goes off.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29So vivid, it's so vivid.

0:18:29 > 0:18:31The director, Irvin Kershner, took me aside.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34He came to my dressing room actually and he said,

0:18:34 > 0:18:36"I'm going to tell you something.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39"I know it, George Lucas knows it and when I tell you,

0:18:39 > 0:18:44"you'll know it, but if it leaks, we'll know it was you."

0:18:44 > 0:18:46So I said, "What, what?"

0:18:46 > 0:18:50He handed me the piece of paper that said, "I am your father."

0:18:50 > 0:18:53I was shocked. I said, "Is that true?"

0:18:53 > 0:18:56He said, "Well, you search your feelings,

0:18:56 > 0:18:59"and we're going to play it like that."

0:18:59 > 0:19:03So, oh, my gosh, Dad Vader.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06And then I was paranoid because I thought, you know...

0:19:06 > 0:19:09- It was way before social media and all of that.- Yeah.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12I had to keep the secret for about a year-and-a-half.

0:19:12 > 0:19:14I didn't tell Carrie, I didn't tell...

0:19:14 > 0:19:17Well, you know telephone, telegraph, tell a Carrie!

0:19:18 > 0:19:22She had no vault whatsoever. In fact, Harrison and I would test her.

0:19:22 > 0:19:24If you really wanted to get something out fast,

0:19:24 > 0:19:28you'd ask Carrie to keep it in confidence, and out it would go.

0:19:29 > 0:19:34So at the screening, when that happened, Harrison turned to me

0:19:34 > 0:19:38and said, "Hey, kid, you didn't fucking tell me that."

0:19:40 > 0:19:43I apologise for the F-bomb, I only used it for historical accuracy.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48But, yeah, I mean, I was so thrilled because,

0:19:48 > 0:19:51I mean, I don't liking having the burden of that.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53I talk in my sleep, you know?

0:19:53 > 0:19:55It could be really dangerous.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58- Does Harrison like your impression of him?- No.

0:19:58 > 0:20:02Actually, he once said to me, "Hey, I don't sound anything like that."

0:20:04 > 0:20:06It's very accurate!

0:20:07 > 0:20:10I read somewhere where back then some of the special effects

0:20:10 > 0:20:13were simpler than maybe they are now.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16- Yeah.- So, the Jedi mind control, when you can move objects -

0:20:16 > 0:20:19explain how they did that?

0:20:19 > 0:20:21Well, first of all, George called Star Wars

0:20:21 > 0:20:23the most expensive low budget movie ever made,

0:20:23 > 0:20:27and what he meant was every penny had to go up on the screen.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29The ingenuity was fantastic.

0:20:29 > 0:20:33So, for instance, when I was hanging upside down in the Wampa Cave,

0:20:33 > 0:20:35they had fishing wire attached to it,

0:20:35 > 0:20:40and pulled it out of my hand and then just reversed the film.

0:20:40 > 0:20:45- Oh, OK.- So it's very simple - but, I mean, the ingenuity is tremendous.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48Now they CGI it and spend way too much money.

0:20:48 > 0:20:51Can we see if we can recreate it in a very low-tech way?

0:20:51 > 0:20:52- I'm game.- OK.

0:20:52 > 0:20:54- So if I give you - if we move that...- All right.

0:20:54 > 0:20:56..if I give you an orange... No, no you're good.

0:20:56 > 0:20:58If I give you an orange...

0:20:58 > 0:21:01Well, maybe you better move them farther, in case my aim is off.

0:21:01 > 0:21:04- So, if you could try to just get it in that general vicinity.- OK.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07So hang on. Wait, wait, wait. So, we've go to look astonished.

0:21:07 > 0:21:09This will all make sense.

0:21:09 > 0:21:13We've got to look astonished when Mark is holding the orange

0:21:13 > 0:21:17and then slowly back to nothing as the orange lands.

0:21:17 > 0:21:20- OK?- OK.- OK, so are we all set?

0:21:20 > 0:21:22- Right - I hope so.- OK.

0:21:28 > 0:21:32APPLAUSE

0:21:32 > 0:21:35I think that was good, I think that was good.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37OK, was this a good one?

0:21:37 > 0:21:39- Was that good? OK. - We'll fix it in editing.- Yeah.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41Let's watch it back, let's watch it back.

0:21:41 > 0:21:43All right. Here we go, OK.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46MUSIC: Yoda And The Force

0:21:49 > 0:21:51LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:21:54 > 0:21:55- That's good, isn't it?- Very good.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- Excellent.- Money well spent.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01It doubles as a salute to BB-8.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03- With that entrance.- It was lovely!

0:22:03 > 0:22:06I liked the way it was just rolling round!

0:22:06 > 0:22:09- The force took charge. - The force was weak and then STRONG!

0:22:09 > 0:22:11- Very strong.- Yeah!

0:22:11 > 0:22:16When it ended, the first three, that franchise ended,

0:22:16 > 0:22:20where you relieved it was over, or were you sad?

0:22:20 > 0:22:23It was sort of like the end of school,

0:22:23 > 0:22:25you're clearing out your locker,

0:22:25 > 0:22:28knowing that you weren't going to see everyone again -

0:22:28 > 0:22:31because you really bond and become a family, you know?

0:22:31 > 0:22:33You spend more time with the crew and the cast

0:22:33 > 0:22:34than you do with your real family.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36So, yeah, there was a sense of completion -

0:22:36 > 0:22:40a beginning, middle and an end, and I thought, "Well, that's it."

0:22:40 > 0:22:42You know?!

0:22:42 > 0:22:45It must have been weird, because you must have assumed

0:22:45 > 0:22:50you could stop being Luke Skywalker at some point in the future -

0:22:50 > 0:22:52and that sort of never happened.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- Carrie's talked about that...- Right. - You know, she's Princess Leia -

0:22:55 > 0:22:56she was Princess Leia forever.

0:22:56 > 0:22:58Well, she was really mad - she came to see me on Broadway

0:22:58 > 0:23:00and she said, "What's with your bio?"

0:23:00 > 0:23:02I said, "What are you talking about?"

0:23:02 > 0:23:05She said, "Hamill, known for a series of space films,

0:23:05 > 0:23:08"made his Broadway debut in such and such."

0:23:08 > 0:23:13She said, "Mark, I'm Princess Leia, you're Luke Skywalker,

0:23:13 > 0:23:16"get used to it and get over yourself."

0:23:16 > 0:23:20She was always miles ahead of me

0:23:20 > 0:23:24in terms of realising what's the obvious.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27That thing with Harrison and Carrie and yourself,

0:23:27 > 0:23:30because of what happened with the earlier Star Wars films,

0:23:30 > 0:23:32you were part of each other's lives,

0:23:32 > 0:23:34and so it seems so fitting, in a way,

0:23:34 > 0:23:37that you got to say goodbye in this way,

0:23:37 > 0:23:40- in this movie...- Yeah. - ..to Carrie.- Yeah.

0:23:40 > 0:23:46I mean, you know, it... really, it hit us all hard,

0:23:46 > 0:23:49and I am not sure that I have really gone through all the stages,

0:23:49 > 0:23:52the denial, acceptance, the bargaining,

0:23:52 > 0:23:55because she is so in the present for me,

0:23:55 > 0:23:58she's not in the past tense - but she's wonderful in the movie.

0:23:58 > 0:24:00- So good.- Yeah.- And you...

0:24:00 > 0:24:02I mean, she didn't rate herself as an actress at all,

0:24:02 > 0:24:04- she rated herself as a writer, and other things...- Right.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06..but she was so proud of this movie.

0:24:06 > 0:24:08- She knew she'd done something really good.- She should be!

0:24:08 > 0:24:10- Absolutely.- She'd done something really good.- Yeah.

0:24:10 > 0:24:12She's just wonderful in the movie.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16The tough part is that you want to grieve in private,

0:24:16 > 0:24:18but, you know, she belonged to the world -

0:24:18 > 0:24:22so not only does it come up on a daily basis with the public,

0:24:22 > 0:24:24but you go on these press junkets

0:24:24 > 0:24:27- and you're asked about it 47 times a day...- Yeah.

0:24:27 > 0:24:29..and you want to be sincere every time

0:24:29 > 0:24:32and not slip into, "Well, I'll never stop missing her,

0:24:32 > 0:24:37"I'll always love her," because it's true. You know? It's...

0:24:37 > 0:24:40- Yeah.- I must say, I found this movie really moving.

0:24:40 > 0:24:44They handled it really... I think they really handled it nicely.

0:24:44 > 0:24:46The movie is the same as it was always going to be.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48- Is that right?- Yeah.- Yeah.- Yeah.

0:24:48 > 0:24:50- They didn't change anything.- Yeah.

0:24:50 > 0:24:54But it has ended up being this beautiful love letter to her,

0:24:54 > 0:24:55as well, as everything else.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58- It's a whole other dimension. - Absolutely.

0:24:58 > 0:25:01There's that amazing thing that Joan Didion said

0:25:01 > 0:25:05when her husband passed away, she kept expecting him to come back,

0:25:05 > 0:25:09and the wonderful thing is that we do get to see her again,

0:25:09 > 0:25:12- doing what she loved and what she is brilliant at.- Yeah.

0:25:12 > 0:25:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:25:16 > 0:25:19I suppose... You didn't know what you were getting into

0:25:19 > 0:25:22when you signed up for Star Wars, but you guys did.

0:25:22 > 0:25:24You knew that this was a big deal.

0:25:24 > 0:25:25So, Daisy Ridley, where were you?

0:25:25 > 0:25:27What were you doing when you were told

0:25:27 > 0:25:30you were going to be a big part of this Star Wars world?

0:25:30 > 0:25:33Um... I was at the theatre.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36I was at the Tristan Bates Theatre, and I was with my friend,

0:25:36 > 0:25:38and I'd been at an audition earlier on in the day,

0:25:38 > 0:25:39and I got an e-mail -

0:25:39 > 0:25:42it literally makes my heart pound thinking about it -

0:25:42 > 0:25:44I got an e-mail from JJ and I was like, "Wait, what?!"

0:25:44 > 0:25:46Saying, "Hey, can I call you?" I was like, "Agh!"

0:25:46 > 0:25:48I had to ask to borrow a charger

0:25:48 > 0:25:50and then I had to do the audition for this other thing,

0:25:50 > 0:25:51and then I went to the theatre.

0:25:51 > 0:25:54Then I was looking at my phone thinking, he hasn't called yet,

0:25:54 > 0:25:56and I checked my voicemail and there was a voicemail.

0:25:56 > 0:25:58I was like, "Oh, God. Oh, God."

0:25:58 > 0:26:00And then I didn't know how to call America

0:26:00 > 0:26:02because I had never called America from my English phone...

0:26:02 > 0:26:05Anyway, I finally got through. They were like, "Bad Robot."

0:26:05 > 0:26:06I was like, "What is going on here?!"

0:26:06 > 0:26:09And I thought I basically had to convince him over the phone...

0:26:09 > 0:26:11It's so weird, I haven't thought about this in ages.

0:26:11 > 0:26:12It makes your heart pump, innit?

0:26:12 > 0:26:14- It's literally making my heart pump. - It's mad.

0:26:14 > 0:26:16I thought I had to convince him,

0:26:16 > 0:26:18and he was going, "You know, this is going to be this..."

0:26:18 > 0:26:20and I'm like, "I'm ready. I can do it, I can do it,"

0:26:20 > 0:26:22he goes, "Yeah, yeah, you're going to be in Star Wars."

0:26:22 > 0:26:23- I was like...- Oof!

0:26:23 > 0:26:27And I was outside the theatre and the play had started,

0:26:27 > 0:26:28and it was a fucking long play.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34And I had to go back in and finish it.

0:26:34 > 0:26:35APPLAUSE

0:26:38 > 0:26:41- Oh, my God! - Of course, you can't celebrate!- No.

0:26:41 > 0:26:45I literally went in, sat down next to my friend and was like...

0:26:45 > 0:26:47"Ugh..."

0:26:47 > 0:26:51- It was nuts.- John, I don't know what it is, if it's paranoia,

0:26:51 > 0:26:53but you go to extreme lengths, now,

0:26:53 > 0:26:57to avoid situations of lots of people.

0:26:57 > 0:26:58No, no - you know what?

0:26:58 > 0:27:01I think with this fame stuff, it really affects you differently,

0:27:01 > 0:27:04- everyone has their own individual experience...- Yeah.

0:27:04 > 0:27:07..and it depends what kind of life you lived before,

0:27:07 > 0:27:09and I always went midnight shopping.

0:27:09 > 0:27:10Oh, right - so, this isn't a fame thing?

0:27:10 > 0:27:12Guys, do you go midnight shopping, though?

0:27:12 > 0:27:14Is it just me, like, in really late, or is that just me?

0:27:14 > 0:27:17- No, I've never been midnight shopping.- No-one's done that?

0:27:17 > 0:27:18I feel like I want to start.

0:27:18 > 0:27:20If you want a snack - not like a full grocery shop.

0:27:20 > 0:27:22You don't need to do a full grocery shop -

0:27:22 > 0:27:24like, milk, and eggs, all that kind of stuff.

0:27:24 > 0:27:26- Crisps and chocolate.- Yeah. - Yeah.- Yeah, all right. Good.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29No, but you don't go to the garage - you go to a proper supermarket.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31Yeah, yeah - Asda's got something going on there,

0:27:31 > 0:27:33you know what I mean?

0:27:33 > 0:27:35Go down there, make it work.

0:27:35 > 0:27:38Do... Do people recognise you in the middle of the night?

0:27:38 > 0:27:40Or do they just go, "That can't be John Boyega"?

0:27:40 > 0:27:41Some people do and they go,

0:27:41 > 0:27:44"Why would John Boyega be doing that, though?"

0:27:44 > 0:27:47And that's the key. That's the key.

0:27:47 > 0:27:48- That's key.- Yeah!

0:27:48 > 0:27:52Sometimes - I read a thing - you had a very sweet encounter,

0:27:52 > 0:27:53- I think it was in an airport? - Oh, yeah.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55It was before I was going through customs,

0:27:55 > 0:27:58and there was this small little girl with her mum,

0:27:58 > 0:28:00and she pinched my jacket, and I turned around,

0:28:00 > 0:28:04she was so small, and she was like, "Mr Finn, is your back OK?"

0:28:04 > 0:28:06and I was just like, "Um..."

0:28:06 > 0:28:07and I looked up at her mum,

0:28:07 > 0:28:10and her mum was like, "You'd better lie to my child"!

0:28:13 > 0:28:15"Yeah, my back's OK!"

0:28:15 > 0:28:17It was just that sweet moment -

0:28:17 > 0:28:20because the kids, they don't see you as the actor,

0:28:20 > 0:28:21they see you as the character,

0:28:21 > 0:28:23but there's still something still so magical about that.

0:28:23 > 0:28:25Gwendoline, you got the double whammy.

0:28:25 > 0:28:30- You've got Game O and this.- Yeah. - So do you get bothered all the time?

0:28:30 > 0:28:33I mean, it can be quite intense, but it...

0:28:33 > 0:28:37I think the pinnacle of this intensity manifested itself

0:28:37 > 0:28:40at a restaurant fairly recently,

0:28:40 > 0:28:43- and I went to the bathroom... - So this is in a restaurant?

0:28:43 > 0:28:45Yeah, this is in a restaurant -

0:28:45 > 0:28:48and it's a, you know, fairly expensive restaurant, actually.

0:28:48 > 0:28:51- Thank you very much! - Thank you very much.- Yes!

0:28:51 > 0:28:56And I went into the bathroom, and I went into the stall,

0:28:56 > 0:29:02and I went to lower myself into the correct position.

0:29:02 > 0:29:05- What I believe to be the correct position.- Yes.

0:29:05 > 0:29:12- And then under the door...- No! - ..slipped a hand...- No!

0:29:12 > 0:29:18- ..with a phone...- NO!- ..and a female voice said, "Selfie."- NO!- Yes!

0:29:18 > 0:29:20Who? Who would do that?

0:29:20 > 0:29:25I just said, "No, thank you," and the hand slipped away.

0:29:25 > 0:29:30- I suppose these guys were forewarned. For you...- Sure.

0:29:30 > 0:29:34- "What? What the hell?"- Yeah, yeah. Well - and it was my first film!

0:29:34 > 0:29:37I had done a lot of television and theatre,

0:29:37 > 0:29:41but you do one movie, and...

0:29:41 > 0:29:44Heck, you know? But I appreciate it now

0:29:44 > 0:29:47in a way I couldn't in my 20s.

0:29:47 > 0:29:51With a little perspective - cos at that age, you go, "Wow,

0:29:51 > 0:29:56"every movie I do will become a pop culture phenomenon!"

0:29:56 > 0:29:59Note to self, wrong!

0:29:59 > 0:30:03One of the reasons it was good to come back,

0:30:03 > 0:30:05is to show the way I am now,

0:30:05 > 0:30:09cos there was a long gap where the original fans grew up

0:30:09 > 0:30:10and had children of their own,

0:30:10 > 0:30:13so, you'd be at the airport and the parents were saying,

0:30:13 > 0:30:16"Look who it is - it's Luke Skywalker!"

0:30:16 > 0:30:18and this four-year-old, they have no concept of time,

0:30:18 > 0:30:20they think we made Star Wars last week,

0:30:20 > 0:30:24and they look up at me in my 50s and they were aghast!

0:30:26 > 0:30:29"God, this guy really let himself go!"

0:30:29 > 0:30:35So, now it's healthy for them to see the ageing process.

0:30:35 > 0:30:39It's a relief, because the last thing I want in life

0:30:39 > 0:30:40is frightening small children.

0:30:40 > 0:30:44- It's not on my list of things I... - Right, it's time for music.

0:30:44 > 0:30:47This man has an Oscar, a Golden Globe

0:30:47 > 0:30:49and a handful of Grammys to his name,

0:30:49 > 0:30:51and now he's back with his second album.

0:30:51 > 0:30:55Performing Too Good At Goodbyes, it is Sam Smith.

0:30:55 > 0:30:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:31:10 > 0:31:13# You must think that I'm stupid

0:31:15 > 0:31:20# You must think that I'm a fool

0:31:20 > 0:31:24# You must think that I'm new to this

0:31:24 > 0:31:29# But I have seen this all before

0:31:29 > 0:31:32# I'm never gonna let you close to me

0:31:32 > 0:31:35# Even though you mean the most to me

0:31:35 > 0:31:39# Cos every time I open up, it hurts

0:31:40 > 0:31:42# So I'm never gonna get too close to you

0:31:42 > 0:31:45# Even when I mean the most to you

0:31:45 > 0:31:49# In case you go and leave me in the dirt

0:31:49 > 0:31:54# But every time you hurt me The less that I cry

0:31:54 > 0:32:00# And every time you leave me The quicker these tears dry

0:32:00 > 0:32:05# And every time you walk out The less I love you

0:32:05 > 0:32:10# Baby, we don't stand a chance It's sad but it's true

0:32:10 > 0:32:12# I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:32:12 > 0:32:14# I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:32:14 > 0:32:20- # I'm way too good at goodbyes - I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:32:22 > 0:32:27# I know you're thinking I'm heartless

0:32:27 > 0:32:32# I know you're thinking I'm cold

0:32:32 > 0:32:36# I'm just protecting my innocence

0:32:38 > 0:32:43# I'm just protecting my soul

0:32:43 > 0:32:45# I'm never gonna let you close to me

0:32:45 > 0:32:48# Even though you mean the most to me

0:32:48 > 0:32:52# Cos every time I open up, it hurts

0:32:52 > 0:32:56# So I'm never gonna get too close to you

0:32:56 > 0:32:58# Even when I mean the most to you

0:32:58 > 0:33:02# In case you go and leave me in the dirt

0:33:02 > 0:33:07# But every time you hurt me The less that I cry

0:33:07 > 0:33:13# And every time you leave me The quicker these tears dry

0:33:13 > 0:33:17# And every time you walk out The less I love you

0:33:17 > 0:33:23# Baby, we don't stand a chance It's sad but it's true

0:33:23 > 0:33:28- # I'm way too good at goodbyes - I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:33:28 > 0:33:33- # I'm way too good at goodbyes - I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:33:33 > 0:33:38- # No way that you'll see me cry - No way that you'll see me cry

0:33:38 > 0:33:43- # I'm way too good at goodbyes - I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:33:43 > 0:33:45# No, no, no

0:33:45 > 0:33:48- # I'm way too good at goodbyes - No, no, no

0:33:48 > 0:33:51# No, no, no

0:33:51 > 0:33:56# No, no, no, I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:33:56 > 0:33:59# No way that you'll see me cry

0:33:59 > 0:34:04- # Oh-oh-oh-oh - I'm way too good at goodbyes

0:34:04 > 0:34:10# Cos every time you hurt me The less that I cry

0:34:10 > 0:34:15# And every time you leave me The quicker these tears dry

0:34:15 > 0:34:20# And every time you walk out The less I love you

0:34:20 > 0:34:25# Baby, we don't stand a chance It's sad but it's true

0:34:25 > 0:34:30# I'm way too good at goodbyes. #

0:34:33 > 0:34:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:34:37 > 0:34:40Sam Smith! Come on over.

0:34:42 > 0:34:45That's so beautiful!

0:34:45 > 0:34:46Thank you so much.

0:34:46 > 0:34:48Come in, sit down.

0:34:48 > 0:34:51Sam Smith, meet everybody - Gwendoline, John, Daisy, Mark.

0:34:51 > 0:34:55There you go. Lovely, lovely, lovely.

0:34:58 > 0:35:00Fantastic.

0:35:00 > 0:35:02There you go.

0:35:02 > 0:35:04Congratulations.

0:35:04 > 0:35:08That, of course, is off the album The Thrill Of It All.

0:35:08 > 0:35:10- Well done, you, sir.- Thank you. I'm going to have a glass of wine.

0:35:10 > 0:35:12- Do - neck it.- Yeah.

0:35:13 > 0:35:16You must be so relieved.

0:35:16 > 0:35:17Cos there's always that hiatus,

0:35:17 > 0:35:19- and, "Ooh, will it match the first album?"- Yeah.

0:35:19 > 0:35:22- This so has! So, congratulations. - Thank you. Thank you.- Yeah!

0:35:22 > 0:35:26- It was stressful, it really was. - I can imagine it's wildly stressful.

0:35:26 > 0:35:28Yeah. I just want to sing for the rest of my life,

0:35:28 > 0:35:30and I just hope that people want to hear me. So...

0:35:30 > 0:35:33AUDIENCE CHEERS

0:35:35 > 0:35:37No-one's going to stop you!

0:35:37 > 0:35:40- That is true. Very true.- Yeah. - I could always sing in the shower.

0:35:40 > 0:35:42Yeah - you'll be singing, you're fine.

0:35:42 > 0:35:45With this album, it's not - how can I put this -

0:35:45 > 0:35:49- it's not the cheeriest...- Oh, no! - ..of albums.

0:35:49 > 0:35:51Never - I'm not that guy.

0:35:51 > 0:35:55You can turn to, like, the Spice Girls for the cheery stuff.

0:35:55 > 0:35:58When you're writing those songs, are you feeling it,

0:35:58 > 0:36:00or are you just thinking, "Oh, yeah, this is good"?

0:36:00 > 0:36:03I've been very unlucky with love, that's the only way I can put it,

0:36:03 > 0:36:06- and I just write love songs. That's what I enjoy to...- Yeah.

0:36:06 > 0:36:10But I'm excited to... Hopefully the third album will be happy, joyous...

0:36:10 > 0:36:13- Oh!- Yeah.- OK.- Yeah.

0:36:13 > 0:36:15Now, I don't want to upset the actors on the couch,

0:36:15 > 0:36:18but since you were last here you won an Oscar.

0:36:22 > 0:36:23APPLAUSE

0:36:25 > 0:36:26Take that!

0:36:28 > 0:36:30So, is...

0:36:30 > 0:36:32Is the Oscar sat in your house?

0:36:32 > 0:36:33I almost feel it doesn't count, does it?

0:36:33 > 0:36:35It does! It's a proper Oscar.

0:36:35 > 0:36:37I can't look at it.

0:36:37 > 0:36:38I'm waiting till I'm, like, 60, 70,

0:36:38 > 0:36:42and I'm just going to surround myself with my albums and my Oscar

0:36:42 > 0:36:43and just cry and eat.

0:36:45 > 0:36:48I hide it in this thing in my house. I can't even look at it.

0:36:48 > 0:36:50- It's hidden?- Yeah, it freaks me out.

0:36:50 > 0:36:52Do you not let friends take pictures with it?

0:36:52 > 0:36:55- When I'm drunk.- It's the only reason I'd want to go to your house -

0:36:55 > 0:36:58- yeah, that'd be great.- When I'm drunk I'm like, "Look at this!"

0:36:58 > 0:37:00Yeah! You...

0:37:00 > 0:37:03There's a particular character in Star Wars you are a big fan of...

0:37:03 > 0:37:06- Yes.- I notice from the social media.

0:37:06 > 0:37:09- Yes.- Did you see the film or did you just meet the creature?

0:37:09 > 0:37:13I saw the film as a kid. I was obsessed with the creature,

0:37:13 > 0:37:16- and when I was in Japan on tour... - This is Ewoks, by the way.

0:37:16 > 0:37:20- Oh!- Being specific, Ewoks. - When I was in Japan on tour,

0:37:20 > 0:37:21they were everywhere.

0:37:21 > 0:37:25I went to a toy shop and there was this huge life-size Ewok.

0:37:25 > 0:37:27- Not...- Life-size.- Life-size.

0:37:27 > 0:37:28- Yes...- I had to get it.

0:37:28 > 0:37:30- We've got nice pictures of you. - I'm obsessed.

0:37:30 > 0:37:33- There you are.- So cute.

0:37:33 > 0:37:36is he featured on the album? It looks like you...

0:37:38 > 0:37:39"He's leaving me!"

0:37:41 > 0:37:44This Ewok is weird looking.

0:37:44 > 0:37:46- What's that?- Oh, no, that's a pillow.

0:37:46 > 0:37:48- Oh, is that a pillow?- Yeah.

0:37:48 > 0:37:50Oh, you haven't just ripped its head off!

0:37:51 > 0:37:53"That'll teach you."

0:37:53 > 0:37:55I like the Ewok trivia.

0:37:55 > 0:37:58You said in an interview that the Ewoks weren't suppose to be Ewoks?

0:38:00 > 0:38:02I have no memory of that.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06Wasn't it supposed to be a planet of Wookiees?

0:38:06 > 0:38:09Oh, that's right - I know what you are talking about now.

0:38:09 > 0:38:13Yes, originally George wanted to go to the Wookiee home planet,

0:38:13 > 0:38:16but it was cost prohibitive, because you have to build all this...

0:38:16 > 0:38:21- A lot of fake fur.- They make those Chewbacca suits hair by hair.

0:38:21 > 0:38:23I mean, I visit the creature shop,

0:38:23 > 0:38:28and those artists are just incredible, incredibly talented -

0:38:28 > 0:38:31but George said, "Well, let's do a shrunken version.."

0:38:31 > 0:38:34- Oh!- "..so we don't need to make the costumes so big."

0:38:34 > 0:38:37- See, it's very clever. - It is - and cheap.

0:38:37 > 0:38:40- And... Yeah.- Yeah. - They're big in Japan.

0:38:41 > 0:38:46- I'm waiting for Sam's love song to Ewoks.- I know!- It's coming.

0:38:46 > 0:38:48It's coming, it's coming.

0:38:48 > 0:38:49We're taking it slow.

0:38:50 > 0:38:53Not a lot rhymes with Ewok - apart from the obvious.

0:39:05 > 0:39:07Um...

0:39:07 > 0:39:10So, now, these guys were talking about the premiere,

0:39:10 > 0:39:13and you had similar royal visitors

0:39:13 > 0:39:16- at the James Bond premier, didn't you?- Oh, yes.

0:39:16 > 0:39:18Yeah, it was exciting -

0:39:18 > 0:39:21but they told me that you have to bow,

0:39:21 > 0:39:25- and I thought when you bow, you fully go down like that...- Oh, God!

0:39:26 > 0:39:29I was at a full right angle.

0:39:29 > 0:39:31It was the most embarrassing thing ever.

0:39:31 > 0:39:33It looked dirty!

0:39:35 > 0:39:38So, anyway, they made it...

0:39:38 > 0:39:40So... You were...

0:39:40 > 0:39:43I like this, though. I like when people are...

0:39:43 > 0:39:46So, you are genuinely angling for an invite?

0:39:46 > 0:39:49Oh, hell, yeah, I'm obsessed - have you seen The Crown?

0:39:49 > 0:39:50Yeah!

0:39:50 > 0:39:53- I wouldn't mention that while asking for an invite.- No, true.

0:39:53 > 0:39:56I'm obsessed with them - I love what they wear.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58The Queen is so cute. I really want to meet her.

0:39:59 > 0:40:02- So, you could be the turn at the reception.- Yeah.

0:40:02 > 0:40:04Mind you, a lot of sad dumping songs -

0:40:04 > 0:40:06- probably aren't going to be... - I can up it for them.

0:40:06 > 0:40:08A happy wedding.

0:40:08 > 0:40:13- Nice happy wedding. Do some covers. - Yeah. Rock.- Yeah.

0:40:13 > 0:40:15No-one will know. Yeah.

0:40:15 > 0:40:17So, the album - congratulations on 2017,

0:40:17 > 0:40:19what an amazing year for you...

0:40:19 > 0:40:22- Thank you.- ..and continued success in 2018. Sam Smith, everybody.

0:40:22 > 0:40:23APPLAUSE

0:40:26 > 0:40:29That is nearly it, but before we go,

0:40:29 > 0:40:32just time for a visit to the Big Red Chair.

0:40:32 > 0:40:34Oh, by the way, before we get to the Red Chair...

0:40:34 > 0:40:37- Have you seen this?- Yes, yes.

0:40:37 > 0:40:38So, this is the lever.

0:40:38 > 0:40:43I just want to say, if you want to use your Jedi Master powers

0:40:43 > 0:40:45to flip the lever...

0:40:45 > 0:40:48- You see how well I did with the orange.- I know, exactly.

0:40:48 > 0:40:49So, feel free.

0:40:49 > 0:40:51We spent a lot of money - please do it!

0:40:53 > 0:40:55Here we go. Who's up first?

0:40:55 > 0:40:57- Hello.- Hi.- Hi!

0:40:57 > 0:41:01- What's your name?- Bona. - Where do you live?- I live in Oxford.

0:41:01 > 0:41:05- Oxford, very nice. What do you do? - I work for the NHS, in finance.

0:41:05 > 0:41:07Oh, in finance... AUDIENCE MURMURS

0:41:07 > 0:41:09No, don't boo the lady! AUDIENCE CHEERS

0:41:09 > 0:41:11- She does a very good job.- Yes, I do!

0:41:11 > 0:41:12Well, I don't know - you may be useless.

0:41:12 > 0:41:14I have no idea.

0:41:14 > 0:41:17You might be about to be fired. We don't know!

0:41:17 > 0:41:21- Let's assume she's good at her job. OK, off you go with the story.- OK.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24Me and my sister went shopping one day

0:41:24 > 0:41:26and I was trying to reverse into a parking space.

0:41:26 > 0:41:28So, it was very, very tight,

0:41:28 > 0:41:31so I said to my sister, "Can you get out and help me?"

0:41:31 > 0:41:34She gets out of the car and she's directing me.

0:41:34 > 0:41:37I'm looking in the wing mirror, and she starts hitting my car.

0:41:37 > 0:41:41So, I get out of the car, and she went, "The car is on my foot!"

0:41:41 > 0:41:44I was like, "What is your foot doing under my...?" Aah!

0:41:45 > 0:41:47I hoped for more.

0:41:48 > 0:41:51I did it manually. I did it manually.

0:41:51 > 0:41:54We don't want to wear it out. I did it manually.

0:41:54 > 0:41:57- Shall we have another one?- Sure.- OK.

0:41:57 > 0:41:58- Hello!- Hello!

0:41:58 > 0:42:01- What is your name?- Lynne. - Lynne, lovely. What do you do?

0:42:01 > 0:42:05- I work in a GP's surgery in the treatment room.- OK.

0:42:05 > 0:42:08- You don't know Bona in finance, do you?- I don't, no.

0:42:08 > 0:42:10No!

0:42:13 > 0:42:15I like that you're wearing your lanyard on TV - that's good.

0:42:20 > 0:42:24That's a good way for them to identify you and fire you.

0:42:25 > 0:42:27OK, off you go with your story.

0:42:27 > 0:42:29Right, well, we're going some years back.

0:42:29 > 0:42:30I was a prison officer,

0:42:30 > 0:42:33- and during that time... - She's lived, hasn't she?

0:42:33 > 0:42:35Yes!

0:42:35 > 0:42:37Oh, you don't know the half of it!

0:42:39 > 0:42:42At the time, it was the prison's responsibility

0:42:42 > 0:42:47to take the prisoners to the court hearings.

0:42:47 > 0:42:50Unfortunately, I was never a very good traveller,

0:42:50 > 0:42:55and between going from the prison to the court

0:42:55 > 0:42:59I sat my back to the engine in a vehicle with no windows -

0:42:59 > 0:43:02I was feeling pretty horrible by the time I got there.

0:43:02 > 0:43:06However, I tried to be brave, carry on, you know,

0:43:06 > 0:43:10- with this feeling of water in your mouth constantly.- Yeah, yes.

0:43:10 > 0:43:13Anyway, we took the prisoner up to the dock

0:43:13 > 0:43:17where the judge started to run through some of the awful things

0:43:17 > 0:43:19that had happened in this case,

0:43:19 > 0:43:22whereupon I threw up on the back of the prisoner...

0:43:25 > 0:43:28..at which time he was taken back to the cells,

0:43:28 > 0:43:30I was sent home and I never done court duty again.

0:43:38 > 0:43:41- It peaked at the vomit. It peaked at the vomit.- It did.

0:43:41 > 0:43:44- You're a cruel man, but fair. - I think so.

0:43:44 > 0:43:45Let's have another one.

0:43:45 > 0:43:48- Oh, hello.- Hello!- Oh, wow!

0:43:48 > 0:43:52I wonder if he's a Star Wars fan...

0:43:52 > 0:43:54- What's your name, sir?- I'm Jason.

0:43:54 > 0:43:56Jason, lovely. Where do you live, Jason?

0:43:56 > 0:43:58Er, Tatooine.

0:44:01 > 0:44:03MUSIC: Yoda And The Force Go on, do...

0:44:03 > 0:44:05Oh... Oh, yeah...!

0:44:05 > 0:44:07Oh, well done!

0:44:07 > 0:44:10APPLAUSE That was good.

0:44:13 > 0:44:14Well done, everyone.

0:44:14 > 0:44:17If you'd like to join us on the show and have a go in the Red Chair,

0:44:17 > 0:44:19go on our website at this very address...

0:44:19 > 0:44:20That is it for tonight.

0:44:20 > 0:44:23Please say a huge thank you to my guests - Mr Sam Smith...

0:44:23 > 0:44:24APPLAUSE

0:44:24 > 0:44:25..Gwendoline Christie...

0:44:25 > 0:44:27APPLAUSE

0:44:27 > 0:44:28..John Boyega...

0:44:28 > 0:44:29APPLAUSE

0:44:29 > 0:44:30..Daisy Ridley...

0:44:30 > 0:44:31APPLAUSE

0:44:31 > 0:44:33..and Mr Mark Hamill.

0:44:33 > 0:44:35APPLAUSE

0:44:35 > 0:44:38Join me next week with singer Tom Chaplin,

0:44:38 > 0:44:41top TV chef Jamie Oliver, Victoria star Jenna Coleman

0:44:41 > 0:44:43and the one and only Will Smith.

0:44:43 > 0:44:46I'll see you then - good night, everybody. Bye-bye!

0:44:46 > 0:44:48APPLAUSE