Episode 17

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06Good evening, everyone. I'm Saoirse Ronan, and you're watching The Graham Norton Show!

0:00:10 > 0:00:17This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:25 > 0:00:31Oh! Oh! Thank you! Thank you so much.

0:00:31 > 0:00:34Oh! Too kind.

0:00:34 > 0:00:38Good evening! Welcome!

0:00:38 > 0:00:42Thank you, thank you. I have never heard applause like it.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46- Everyone well? AUDIENCE:- Yeah!

0:00:46 > 0:00:49Yes, because this week it was announced the Spice Girls are back!

0:00:49 > 0:00:51Yes, they are. Whoo!

0:00:51 > 0:00:52SCATTERED APPLAUSE

0:00:52 > 0:00:54Good luck with the ticket sales!

0:00:56 > 0:00:59Victoria has already been practising her singing at home.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05I wonder what requests the audience will be shouting at the first gig?

0:01:05 > 0:01:09I'd go with "Stop Right Now, Thank You Very Much."

0:01:09 > 0:01:11What else has been happening this week?

0:01:11 > 0:01:14Well, despite there being doubts over her leadership,

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Prime Minister Theresa May was out and about having fun.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20Here she is playing ball with a dog.

0:01:21 > 0:01:25"Leave, leave!" is what everyone is telling her.

0:01:26 > 0:01:29If Theresa were to quit, some Conservatives would like to see

0:01:29 > 0:01:32Jacob Rees-Mogg put his hat in the ring.

0:01:32 > 0:01:33AUDIENCE GROAN

0:01:33 > 0:01:35It would look better there than on his head.

0:01:35 > 0:01:37Jacob Rees-Mogg, the man of the people.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40He wants to drag the Tory party kicking and screaming

0:01:40 > 0:01:42into the 18th century.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44He doesn't have a job in the Cabinet at the moment,

0:01:44 > 0:01:47but earlier in his career he was the Minister for Silly Walks.

0:01:50 > 0:01:54Supporters claim Jacob embraces the Churchillian spirit.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57Although it's not actually Churchill he reminds me of.

0:01:58 > 0:02:02LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:02:02 > 0:02:05Let's get some guests on!

0:02:05 > 0:02:09Later we'll have music from breakout star from The Greatest Showman,

0:02:09 > 0:02:13Keala Settle!

0:02:13 > 0:02:16But first, this award-winning comedian is the new face

0:02:16 > 0:02:19of Saturday night TV, hosting All Together Now on BBC One.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22Please welcome the Mouth from he South, it's Rob Beckett!

0:02:22 > 0:02:26CHEERING AND APPLAUSE THROUGHOUT

0:02:26 > 0:02:30Hello. Have a seat, have a seat.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33This duo are the stars of the ground-breaking sitcom

0:02:33 > 0:02:35that became a global hit.

0:02:35 > 0:02:40Now, after 11 years away, they've made a happy return to our screens.

0:02:40 > 0:02:42Please welcome Will and Grace themselves

0:02:42 > 0:02:45Eric McCormack and Debra Messing!

0:02:48 > 0:02:50So lovely to see you!

0:02:50 > 0:02:54It's like television has come to life!

0:02:59 > 0:03:03And she's a Golden Globe winner and triple Oscar nominee

0:03:03 > 0:03:06who's wowed us in films like Atonement, Brooklyn

0:03:06 > 0:03:08and now the critically-acclaimed Lady Bird.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11My Irish eyes are smiling! It's Saoirse Ronan!

0:03:14 > 0:03:18Good to see you. Hello, hello, hello, hello.

0:03:18 > 0:03:19Come in and sit down.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Oh, the bonding and, yeah, yeah.

0:03:26 > 0:03:30This is good. Good, fake showbiz helloing.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32We are just pretending.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35We were making out backstage.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38Before we do another thing -

0:03:38 > 0:03:41huge congratulations on the Oscar nomination, Saoirse.

0:03:41 > 0:03:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:03:43 > 0:03:47Mind you, it's crazy, you're so young, this is the third one.

0:03:47 > 0:03:51- I know. Another one! - You must be like, "Whatever."- Yeah.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54So, good luck to you but also good luck to the person reading out

0:03:54 > 0:03:57the nominations because Americans do struggle with your name.

0:03:57 > 0:04:02- They can't get it. - Eric, Debra, did you practise?

0:04:02 > 0:04:05We had a kind of practice because you were going to be a joke

0:04:05 > 0:04:08in the opening scene on Will And Grace a few weeks ago.

0:04:08 > 0:04:11- Swear to God. - Stop! Why wasn't I?

0:04:11 > 0:04:13Because we couldn't get it right.

0:04:13 > 0:04:17- It was cut.- It was a joke about how hard it is your programme,

0:04:17 > 0:04:21your Netflix or whatever. She said,

0:04:21 > 0:04:24"What's the name of that actress we like so much?"

0:04:24 > 0:04:25"But we can't pronounce her name."

0:04:25 > 0:04:30I said Saoirse Ronan, and so the whole thing was just her going...

0:04:30 > 0:04:33- "S..."- E...R...something...

0:04:35 > 0:04:39- You were almost... - I was almost on Will And Grace.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41Then I got cut!

0:04:41 > 0:04:45Now, when you hosted SNL you came up with handy way

0:04:45 > 0:04:51- to tell Americans how to say your name.- I did.- Can you do it?

0:04:51 > 0:04:54It goes... If I can remember it...

0:04:54 > 0:04:56# It's Saoirse with an R Not Saoirse with an OR

0:04:56 > 0:04:58# Cos Saoirse with an OR goes OR, not ER

0:04:58 > 0:05:00# It's SH instead of CS UH instead of EE

0:05:00 > 0:05:03# Simple as can be, see, Saoirse. #

0:05:03 > 0:05:05Very good!

0:05:05 > 0:05:09And so you rehearse...

0:05:09 > 0:05:12Am I the only one that's more confused?

0:05:14 > 0:05:16The whole week leading up to it,

0:05:16 > 0:05:18that was the only thing I kept thinking about

0:05:18 > 0:05:19because it's so difficult to say.

0:05:19 > 0:05:22It's supposed to make it easier, but it was just in my head.

0:05:22 > 0:05:23"It's Saoirse with an R..."

0:05:23 > 0:05:26So that's what I had in my head for the whole week leading up to it.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29- Talking of awards, congratulations, you won the Golden Globe.- Yeah.

0:05:29 > 0:05:33Very good. And Will And Grace has been nominated for,

0:05:33 > 0:05:37- is it 29 or 30 Golden Globes?- 29.

0:05:37 > 0:05:40- Never won once.- Not once.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42We are the biggest losers.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45No-one has lost more than us.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47We got to a point...

0:05:47 > 0:05:49CHEERING

0:05:49 > 0:05:50Thank you!

0:05:50 > 0:05:54- You guys!- That's right, that's right.

0:05:54 > 0:05:58But we got to a point after about season three where the show was

0:05:58 > 0:06:01nominated, all four of us nominated - lost, lost.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04And one, I think it was when the show lost or Sean lost,

0:06:04 > 0:06:08- Max, who created the show, went, "Yes!"- Yeah!

0:06:08 > 0:06:11And the cameras got confused and went to us -

0:06:11 > 0:06:12though we had just lost -

0:06:12 > 0:06:15and we started to do it every nomination, every loss.

0:06:15 > 0:06:19Every time anyone lost, we could have another drink of champagne.

0:06:19 > 0:06:21Confused the hell out of them.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23They always put a big thing of chocolates on your plate

0:06:23 > 0:06:25and so I would wait until I lost

0:06:25 > 0:06:28and then I would open up the box and eat the whole thing and I'd be like,

0:06:28 > 0:06:30"It doesn't matter now."

0:06:30 > 0:06:35- Have you got 29 unused acceptance speeches?- Yeah.

0:06:35 > 0:06:38I was nominated this year and I almost recycled the same thing

0:06:38 > 0:06:40and I thought, you know,

0:06:40 > 0:06:43"I can't reference Al Gore - that makes no sense!"

0:06:43 > 0:06:49But I feel the Golden Globes realise you are not taking it

0:06:49 > 0:06:52that seriously. I think this is you guys at the Golden Globes.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57That is not how winners behave.

0:06:57 > 0:07:01That was the last Golden Globes and we got in front of the press

0:07:01 > 0:07:04and we weren't even nominated, we were there just cos it was

0:07:04 > 0:07:08last season and the press so didn't care that I said,

0:07:08 > 0:07:10"Fuck this, I'm dropping my pants."

0:07:10 > 0:07:13And they still didn't care.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17They took that picture, look at Sean. Nobody cares.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19They are looking away, "Whatever."

0:07:19 > 0:07:24- Now, Rob Beckett.- Yes.- Welcome to the world of show business,

0:07:24 > 0:07:27- working the red carpet at the NTAs. - You didn't bring up my award.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31I was second place in Bath New Comedian of the Year 2009.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- I'm so sorry!- It's not an Oscar or a Golden Globe

0:07:34 > 0:07:37but it meant a lot to me at the time. Runner-up in Bath.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40- Are you saying "barf"?- Bath.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43LAUGHTER

0:07:43 > 0:07:45I knew this was going to happen.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47We need an interpreter.

0:07:47 > 0:07:53- Bath. You know Bath?- No. - Near Bristol?- Oh, "Bath"!- Bath!

0:07:53 > 0:07:56It's going to be a long night.

0:07:56 > 0:08:00You were on the red carpet at the NTAs with your new friend

0:08:00 > 0:08:04- Geri Horner, Spice Girl. Ginger Spice.- She looks great.- Yeah.

0:08:04 > 0:08:07- Did you enjoy working the red carpet with her?- It's interesting

0:08:07 > 0:08:10doing the red carpet because when you are walking on the red carpet

0:08:10 > 0:08:13with a Spice Girl, no-one cares about you whatsoever,

0:08:13 > 0:08:17to the point where the photographers go, "Get out of the photo, Rob."

0:08:17 > 0:08:22They get more money for one of her. I actually devalue a photo.

0:08:24 > 0:08:28They're earning less money, so I'm just standing there going,

0:08:28 > 0:08:30"How much?

0:08:30 > 0:08:32"How much to get out the photo?"

0:08:32 > 0:08:35LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:08:39 > 0:08:43Big film tonight is Lady Bird. It is out 23rd February

0:08:43 > 0:08:48and, Saoirse, this was meant to be an art house kind of indie film,

0:08:48 > 0:08:52- but it defied all expectations, it's a big hit.- It's mad.

0:08:52 > 0:08:57It's done so well, it came out in November, yeah, it was

0:08:57 > 0:09:01a tiny little film, it is Greta Gerwig, who did Frances Ha

0:09:01 > 0:09:05and Mistress America, you know, really great films but very small

0:09:05 > 0:09:11films, and within the industry people really respected her,

0:09:11 > 0:09:15but this has become this big sort of commercial hit, and, I don't know,

0:09:15 > 0:09:18just the way young people in particular have reacted to it

0:09:18 > 0:09:21is amazing, girls coming up to you, going,

0:09:21 > 0:09:24"I feel like somebody gets me now." You know?

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- Oh!- So it's really nice. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29Everyone is calling their mam after the film cos they feel so guilty

0:09:29 > 0:09:32about being horrible to them when they were younger.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35The movie is doing gangbusters in America and then

0:09:35 > 0:09:39your mum arrives in America and wants to go and see it.

0:09:39 > 0:09:42Yeah, she wanted to go and see it and she was proud

0:09:42 > 0:09:44and heard it was doing well and all that sort of stuff and I was like,

0:09:44 > 0:09:48"Mam, it's doing really well, let's go and see it

0:09:48 > 0:09:51"with a real audience, it's probably going to be sold out,

0:09:51 > 0:09:54"but we'll see if we can get in there."

0:09:54 > 0:09:58So I got us tickets to a 4 o'clock screening or something like that

0:09:58 > 0:10:01in LA, it was like, "Keep your head down."

0:10:01 > 0:10:04There's posters everywhere, it's been sold out,

0:10:04 > 0:10:07the film is doing well, all that sort of stuff.

0:10:07 > 0:10:11We go into the cinema - there's a total of six people in there.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14All on their phones.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16Nobody was interested at all. I was like,

0:10:16 > 0:10:18"Just keep your head down."

0:10:18 > 0:10:21We go to the back and there was a girl texting for the first

0:10:21 > 0:10:23ten minutes of the film. I was like, "Get off the phone."

0:10:23 > 0:10:25Then her friend turns up late.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27But she loved it, she loved it,

0:10:27 > 0:10:31and I think the other six people loved it.

0:10:31 > 0:10:34They're probably all texting their mates, going,

0:10:34 > 0:10:36"That girl from the film's in the cinema!"

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- Trying to spell it!- Yeah, yeah!

0:10:39 > 0:10:42DROWNED OUT BY LAUGHTER

0:10:42 > 0:10:45"Someone get me Scrabble bag!"

0:10:45 > 0:10:47"Scheme is here."

0:10:49 > 0:10:53We've got a clip from Lady Bird. This is a great scene,

0:10:53 > 0:10:56you and your mum, played brilliantly by Laurie Metcalf -

0:10:56 > 0:10:59- she's Oscar-nominated as well. - Yeah, she got nominated.

0:10:59 > 0:11:04- This is the two of you having the argument in a car.- Yeah.

0:11:04 > 0:11:08I want to go where culture is, like New York, at least Connecticut

0:11:08 > 0:11:12- or New Hampshire where writers live in the woods.- You won't get into those schools anyway.

0:11:12 > 0:11:14- Mom!- You can't even pass your driver's test.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- Because you wouldn't let me practise!- The way that you work - or the way that you don't work -

0:11:17 > 0:11:20you're not even worth state tuition, Christine.

0:11:20 > 0:11:22- My name is Lady Bird. - Well, actually, it's not

0:11:22 > 0:11:25- and it's ridiculous.- Call me Lady Bird like you said you would.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28You should go to City College, you know, with your work ethic,

0:11:28 > 0:11:30and then to jail, and back to City College

0:11:30 > 0:11:33and maybe you would learn to pull yourself up and not expect

0:11:33 > 0:11:35everybody to do everything. SHE SCREAMS

0:11:35 > 0:11:37LAUGHTER

0:11:37 > 0:11:39That is such a great film.

0:11:39 > 0:11:43DROWNED OUT BY APPLAUSE

0:11:43 > 0:11:46I just remembered, you did make it into the show

0:11:46 > 0:11:49because there was a scene where you and I were driving...

0:11:49 > 0:11:51- Oh, that's right!- ..and you're driving me to a place I don't want

0:11:51 > 0:11:54to go, to see your family, and I act like I'm common and suddenly

0:11:54 > 0:11:56I try to get the door open and she said,

0:11:56 > 0:11:59"Easy, Lady Bird, I locked the door."

0:11:59 > 0:12:02- That's all I wanted.- It's there.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04That's the only reason I'm here.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07I love the fact, twice... you've debated.

0:12:07 > 0:12:11It's not a big budget film. Watching it, there is a sense

0:12:11 > 0:12:14- of you did just throw yourself out of a moving car.- I did, yeah,

0:12:14 > 0:12:17it's a wonder I survived.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21No, we had a rig round the car, so just do a drop and roll.

0:12:21 > 0:12:24It still must be quite scary.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27Yeah, it was a moving car, it was a moving car and there was nobody

0:12:27 > 0:12:33round except us and it was at the end of the film,

0:12:33 > 0:12:36so they could have left me there if they wanted to.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38But, no, I...

0:12:38 > 0:12:41Your own mum you have a great relationship with,

0:12:41 > 0:12:44but cars are the one place you and your mum...

0:12:44 > 0:12:48We don't see eye-to-eye in the car. I don't know about you guys

0:12:48 > 0:12:52but it feels like pressure is just immense when you get in the car

0:12:52 > 0:12:57with someone that you really love, and we get on so well

0:12:57 > 0:13:01in our normal life, and then we get into the car, and something happens,

0:13:01 > 0:13:05and, like, we learned to drive the car at the same time,

0:13:05 > 0:13:07we share a car,

0:13:07 > 0:13:10and because of our love of Barbra Streisand we called her

0:13:10 > 0:13:13Barbra Streisand, so whenever we're driving Barbra around

0:13:13 > 0:13:16she'll give me directions if she's the co-pilot.

0:13:16 > 0:13:18And she's terrible at it.

0:13:18 > 0:13:21She has a great sense of direction but when we get into the car

0:13:21 > 0:13:23she is sort of like, "Right, you're taking the next left."

0:13:23 > 0:13:27And I'll check the mirror, indicate, into the left lane, take the left,

0:13:27 > 0:13:29and she's like, "What are you doing?"

0:13:29 > 0:13:31"You told me to turn left."

0:13:31 > 0:13:34"I didn't mean that left, I meant the next left. Obviously."

0:13:34 > 0:13:37So we've gotten into full-blown arguments.

0:13:37 > 0:13:41But, like, in the confines of Barbra Streisand.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43- Then you park Barbra and you're fine.- We park Barbra,

0:13:43 > 0:13:45we get out of Barbra and we're fine.

0:13:45 > 0:13:50- Rob, you had to drive, is it your dad...?- My dad was a lorry driver,

0:13:50 > 0:13:54then a cab driver, so proper, you know, loves a bit of driving.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57I'm rubbish at it. He can't get enough of it, he's always driving.

0:13:57 > 0:14:01And I passed in an automatic. I couldn't get my head round gears,

0:14:01 > 0:14:03it stressed me out, I thought, "I'm quite busy,

0:14:03 > 0:14:05"I don't want to change gears."

0:14:05 > 0:14:07There's no point having gears.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10But I'm rubbish at driving and I think my dad is ashamed of me

0:14:10 > 0:14:13that I am not a proper driver. I picked him up from the hospital,

0:14:13 > 0:14:16he had a cataract operation, he's half blind, got all the bandages

0:14:16 > 0:14:19over his head. I get home and I can't get into this space,

0:14:19 > 0:14:22and it was one of the most emasculating things

0:14:22 > 0:14:23that has happened.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26Het gets out, pulls me out of the car, parks it blind.

0:14:28 > 0:14:30Sitting there like that.

0:14:33 > 0:14:35So degrading!

0:14:35 > 0:14:38I don't know if you've ever seen a blind man park a car,

0:14:38 > 0:14:41it's quite a sight!

0:14:41 > 0:14:44- So you are 23 now.- Yeah.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47The odd thing for you is that because you have grown up

0:14:47 > 0:14:53being on screen, you have never had to do the awkward teenage thing.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55I did, but it was on camera.

0:14:55 > 0:14:59- So I had a camera right there. - We really didn't notice it!

0:14:59 > 0:15:03I think I can speak freely that we probably all had

0:15:03 > 0:15:06slightly awkward teens. Now, Eric McCormack.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08You posted this picture

0:15:08 > 0:15:11so it's not like I broke into your house and found it.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13How old were you in this picture?

0:15:13 > 0:15:15- DEBRA:- Oh!

0:15:15 > 0:15:17- LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE Wow!- Yeah, that was...

0:15:19 > 0:15:22That was my Bay City Rollers phase.

0:15:22 > 0:15:26- I was 15.- Oh, my God.

0:15:26 > 0:15:28You look 32.

0:15:28 > 0:15:31Really? Really?

0:15:31 > 0:15:34- ROB:- You look younger now! - I think I was...

0:15:34 > 0:15:36You've grown into yourself.

0:15:37 > 0:15:39I hadn't yet figured out how to pluck the centre,

0:15:39 > 0:15:42so there's still a good amount of hair there.

0:15:42 > 0:15:46Who was the guy who played the Incredible Hulk, was it Lou Ferrigno?

0:15:46 > 0:15:50- Yes.- There's a whiff of Lou about this.- And a little David Cassidy.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52Thank you, thank you.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54I was just about to star in

0:15:54 > 0:15:57my high school production of Godspell when I did that.

0:15:57 > 0:15:58Oh!

0:15:58 > 0:16:01I've never seen such a short fringe, but such long at the back.

0:16:01 > 0:16:05- I know.- So precise. - It's not a mullet.

0:16:05 > 0:16:06You're all being very...

0:16:06 > 0:16:08It's more like a Farrah Fawcett flip.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13Let's calm down, let's calm down, Debra.

0:16:13 > 0:16:17- Because we've also got a picture of you.- OK.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20This is... I think it's a particularly American thing,

0:16:20 > 0:16:23that some American girls do look about 45.

0:16:23 > 0:16:26LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:16:28 > 0:16:29You look like a headmistress.

0:16:31 > 0:16:36I mean, that hair, it's... it's got life in it, doesn't it?

0:16:36 > 0:16:39- That is solid. You could hide pencils in that.- Yes, yeah.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42- It's got its own postcode as well. - That's right.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46- What was that photo for?- That was my high school graduation photo.

0:16:46 > 0:16:48Did you think you were supposed to face this way

0:16:48 > 0:16:51and then someone went, "The camera's over here." "Oh!"

0:16:53 > 0:16:55You know, I grew up in rural Rhode Island

0:16:55 > 0:17:00and I think that I knew that I had to find some drama in my life.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03So I think that I felt like, "OK, I'm here."

0:17:03 > 0:17:06- It's also perfectly lit as well.- Yeah.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08- The school did an amazing job. - They did, right?

0:17:08 > 0:17:11Because that's more than one light.

0:17:11 > 0:17:14- Like, there's a bit here and a bit here.- Yeah, yeah.- Oh, yeah.

0:17:14 > 0:17:17They went all out in East Greenwich, Rhode Island.

0:17:17 > 0:17:21Yes, I feel in Lewisham they didn't. Here's Rob.

0:17:21 > 0:17:25LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:17:28 > 0:17:30That's just one light.

0:17:30 > 0:17:33- Yeah. I mean... - What do you have in that bag?!

0:17:33 > 0:17:35THEY ALL TALK AT ONCE

0:17:35 > 0:17:37I understand, there's a lot of questions.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43I like to refer to these as the "bad years".

0:17:43 > 0:17:45What's in it?

0:17:45 > 0:17:49Well, I think...well, I know what that is. I'm 15 years of age.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52I'm on an Easter egg hunt that I'm too old for, let's be honest.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55I've absolutely demolished the hunt though, to be fair to me.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58I've caned 'em. Yeah.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- Yeah.- There's a lot of children over here crying.

0:18:01 > 0:18:06This currently feels like an anxiety dream. It's awful, isn't it?

0:18:06 > 0:18:09Yeah, I just smashed the Easter egg hunt.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12It looks like police evidence, doesn't it? In the bag.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18- The hair, the glasses. - I mean, let's talk about the fringe.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21You were talking to him about the fringe.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23We're the same age in those photos.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- Maybe we could...- Different times. - Who made it in Hollywood?

0:18:35 > 0:18:38Let's put a bet on those two photos next to each other.

0:18:38 > 0:18:41Easter Egg hunt, the Easter Egg serial killer

0:18:41 > 0:18:44and grandad fringe.

0:18:44 > 0:18:45Eric looked like a porn star.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50- Working on it. - Oh, that's bold, isn't it?

0:18:50 > 0:18:52APPLAUSE

0:18:52 > 0:18:54Ladies and gentlemen, Will And Grace is back.

0:18:54 > 0:18:56CHEERING

0:18:56 > 0:18:58Yes!

0:18:58 > 0:18:59There they all are.

0:18:59 > 0:19:04It's showing here on Channel 5 every Friday at 10 o'clock.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07And it's one of those things, you know, we knew you'd been away

0:19:07 > 0:19:10but then you hear 11 years, was it really 11 years?

0:19:10 > 0:19:13And the method of it coming back is so bizarre.

0:19:13 > 0:19:18- No-one was talking about it coming back.- No.- So, go on.- No.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22You know, I had been campaigning for Hillary Clinton.

0:19:22 > 0:19:26And we were talking about... about trying to help her.

0:19:26 > 0:19:31And then it turned out that our entire set had been stored

0:19:31 > 0:19:36pristinely on the college campus of our executive producer for 10 years.

0:19:36 > 0:19:38- Emerson College in Boston. - Emerson College.

0:19:38 > 0:19:40And then they got a call that said,

0:19:40 > 0:19:44"We need you to move the entire set to storage,

0:19:44 > 0:19:46"we need to do some fixes."

0:19:46 > 0:19:50And so he realised, I have the entire set of Will And Grace,

0:19:50 > 0:19:52maybe there's something I can do with it.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55And that's when he wrote the four of us and said,

0:19:55 > 0:19:57"Maybe, would you guys want to do

0:19:57 > 0:20:02"a seven minute little film on YouTube to try and help Hillary?"

0:20:02 > 0:20:05And within 10 minutes, all four of us had said yes.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07And we came back and we did it

0:20:07 > 0:20:10and we really thought it was going to be just a one-off.

0:20:10 > 0:20:13And we said goodbye and we were like, oh, my God, how lucky,

0:20:13 > 0:20:1510 years later we got to play with each other again.

0:20:15 > 0:20:20And then 7.5 million views, and they were like, "Wait a second!"

0:20:20 > 0:20:23Basically, Max flew the entire set, piece by piece,

0:20:23 > 0:20:26across the country at his own expense. It was really expensive.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29And we did this thing entirely in secret.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- Nobody knew except our few crew members.- Nobody knew.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34Even the people that showed up -

0:20:34 > 0:20:36it was an invited audience of about 100 people -

0:20:36 > 0:20:38weren't told what they were about to see.

0:20:38 > 0:20:41And when the curtain parted and it was that set

0:20:41 > 0:20:45- and the four of us in costume, it was very awesome.- Incredible.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48And because it came from a pro-Hillary place,

0:20:48 > 0:20:52when Trump won, did that put you off bringing it back?

0:20:55 > 0:20:57It was like, OK, well, 10 minutes didn't work,

0:20:57 > 0:20:59what about if we do a whole season?

0:21:02 > 0:21:05That was rough. That was rough.

0:21:05 > 0:21:08Weirdly...it's still more rough than ever,

0:21:08 > 0:21:11it's embarrassing to be here from America at the moment.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13But refreshing, nice to be here.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16But the idea that if Hillary had won,

0:21:16 > 0:21:18and we could have taken some small credit,

0:21:18 > 0:21:22- if we had come back, it was just a fun comedy show.- We'd just be happy.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25But now it feels like we're the resistance somehow.

0:21:25 > 0:21:26Yeah.

0:21:26 > 0:21:30And in terms of restarting it, kind of rebooting it,

0:21:30 > 0:21:32how much discussion was around...

0:21:32 > 0:21:36Because you ended up in that last episode, you ended up

0:21:36 > 0:21:40in a very different place to where you started this series.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44Oh, yeah. We had kids. It was 25 years in the future.

0:21:44 > 0:21:46And then we were like, well, how are we going to do this?

0:21:46 > 0:21:49And they're like, "Oh, you're not going to have kids."

0:21:49 > 0:21:51- It never happened. - It was like, what?

0:21:51 > 0:21:53The first scene of the first series, or the ninth series,

0:21:53 > 0:21:55which started here, basically,

0:21:55 > 0:21:58we wrote the whole thing off as a dream.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01Because we just... The idea of Will and Grace having kids

0:22:01 > 0:22:04and making the whole show about that was like, "Ugh, can we just be gay?"

0:22:04 > 0:22:07We don't want to be parents.

0:22:07 > 0:22:08We've got a clip.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10This is from next week's episode.

0:22:10 > 0:22:14And this is the two of you discovering that you're sharing

0:22:14 > 0:22:15- more than an apartment.- Yes.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20- You two didn't know about this? - You told me not to tell!

0:22:20 > 0:22:22I meant don't put it on Instagram.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24The two of you live together,

0:22:24 > 0:22:26what have you been talking about for the past three days?

0:22:26 > 0:22:28- Fine things.- Shows we watch.

0:22:28 > 0:22:33But now that we all know what we know, we know.

0:22:35 > 0:22:36- Sure do.- Guess that's true.

0:22:36 > 0:22:40Goodbye, Will. I had a lovely night with you.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46And Grace.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49An equally lovely night with you the night before.

0:23:03 > 0:23:05APPLAUSE

0:23:10 > 0:23:12And that, am I right, that's Megan Mullally...

0:23:12 > 0:23:16- That's Megan Mullally's husband. - Husband.- So now we've all had him.

0:23:18 > 0:23:22And of course, huge success and then you had all those incredible

0:23:22 > 0:23:25- celebrities and star cameos and things.- Yeah.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28I mean, you were in scenes with Madonna.

0:23:28 > 0:23:30And she didn't even know who I was.

0:23:30 > 0:23:32I heard that - is that true?

0:23:32 > 0:23:34It's true. Or me.

0:23:34 > 0:23:36So, she came in, she came in late to the first read-through,

0:23:36 > 0:23:39she kept her sunglasses on, and she sat down.

0:23:39 > 0:23:41- DRAWLS:- She started talking like that.

0:23:41 > 0:23:44I think it was a vaguely Sacramento accent, I'm not sure.

0:23:44 > 0:23:48And she went, "I'm so not sorry I'm late."

0:23:48 > 0:23:50And then she started reading the script

0:23:50 > 0:23:54and at one point she said, "Listen, Jack... Which one's Jack?

0:23:54 > 0:23:58And Sean went, "Hi, hi, Sean Hayes, I play Jack McFarland, hi, hi!"

0:23:58 > 0:24:00And so I remember the week,

0:24:00 > 0:24:03and most of her scenes were with Megan, that every day she went

0:24:03 > 0:24:07to Debra and I and she said, "I'm sorry, I don't remember your name."

0:24:08 > 0:24:12And finally, I was like... This was when she was really into kabbalah,

0:24:12 > 0:24:15and I said, "Oh, I'm Rachal."

0:24:17 > 0:24:20Then she went, "Rachal? That's my Kabbalah name."

0:24:20 > 0:24:22And I was like, "How about that?!"

0:24:22 > 0:24:26And literally, for the rest of the week, she called me Rachal,

0:24:26 > 0:24:29and that night, we always have a tradition where we hug and kiss

0:24:29 > 0:24:30each other right before we go on,

0:24:30 > 0:24:34and he said, "Have a good show, Deb."

0:24:34 > 0:24:36And Madonna turned to him and was like,

0:24:36 > 0:24:38"Her name's not Deb. Her name's Rachal."

0:24:38 > 0:24:42And that's when he informed her that my name was Debra,

0:24:42 > 0:24:45and the next day, after the whole episode was over,

0:24:45 > 0:24:48I got six dozen roses that said,

0:24:48 > 0:24:52"Dear Debra, thank you for a great week. Madonna."

0:24:52 > 0:24:54So I... The same thing - on the Friday, we'd been rehearsing

0:24:54 > 0:24:57for three days, she said, "I'm sorry, I don't remember your name."

0:24:57 > 0:24:59I said... This is the third time.

0:24:59 > 0:25:01I said, "My name is so easy to remember.

0:25:01 > 0:25:04"It's the one at the very, very beginning

0:25:04 > 0:25:06"of every single episode of the show you are on."

0:25:06 > 0:25:08And she went, "Oh, I'm sorry."

0:25:08 > 0:25:10So, same thing, I got a giant box of roses with a card that

0:25:10 > 0:25:13I just found the other day - I thought I'd lost it -

0:25:13 > 0:25:14which said, "If my husband would let me,

0:25:14 > 0:25:17"I'd tattoo your name on my arm. Love, Madonna."

0:25:17 > 0:25:19So all's forgiven, all's forgiven.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21- Well...I'm not sure.- My thing was...

0:25:21 > 0:25:24LAUGHTER

0:25:24 > 0:25:26Uh-oh. You've opened up a rift.

0:25:26 > 0:25:28My thing was shit!

0:25:29 > 0:25:32Well, you've seen pictures of Madonna lately.

0:25:32 > 0:25:33It's got "Rachal" right there.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36LAUGHTER

0:25:36 > 0:25:40And now, were you responsible, Eric, for getting Elton John on the show?

0:25:40 > 0:25:46Well, yeah. So, I mentioned my high school production of Godspell.

0:25:46 > 0:25:50You know who starred in it with me, in 1979? It was David Furnish.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53- We grew up together outside of... - Good trivia, good trivia.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55Yeah, good trivia. Outside Toronto.

0:25:55 > 0:25:56We lost touch for a number of years,

0:25:56 > 0:25:58but when I finally ran into him again,

0:25:58 > 0:26:01I was like, "I'm dating a girl, I think I'm going to marry her."

0:26:01 > 0:26:03And he's like, "Great! I'm dating Elton John."

0:26:03 > 0:26:08And so we got to know Elton a little bit, but never really close.

0:26:08 > 0:26:11And there was one day David phoned, and...

0:26:11 > 0:26:15This was before Elton did the show, and he said, "I'm in town."

0:26:15 > 0:26:17My wife said, "Have him come over."

0:26:17 > 0:26:18I said, "Come over to the house for dinner."

0:26:18 > 0:26:20He said, "OK, we'll be there at eight."

0:26:20 > 0:26:23And I said to my wife, "He said 'we'. He said 'we'.

0:26:23 > 0:26:26"I think Elton John's coming to our house for dinner."

0:26:26 > 0:26:29And sure enough, they show up, and they're both in, like,

0:26:29 > 0:26:34velvet tracksuits, and they sit down and I'm trying to be cool.

0:26:34 > 0:26:37We have dinner, just the four of us. My kid is, like, six months old.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40And we have a new piano that I can barely play,

0:26:40 > 0:26:42but I had just enough wine at one point that I said to Elton,

0:26:42 > 0:26:45"You know you're going to have to christen the piano?"

0:26:45 > 0:26:49And he got up and he walked into the next room and he sat down,

0:26:49 > 0:26:51and he looked up at me and said...

0:26:51 > 0:26:53- IMITATES ELTON: - "What would you like me to play?"

0:26:53 > 0:26:56And I... This is my moment, cos I want him to know...

0:26:56 > 0:26:59I'm not going to say Rocket Man like some schmuck.

0:26:59 > 0:27:01So I said, "Um...

0:27:01 > 0:27:05"..I've Seen That Movie Too, from Goodbye Yellow Brick Road."

0:27:05 > 0:27:07And he looked up at me and said,

0:27:07 > 0:27:09"Oh, fuck off, I don't remember that song!"

0:27:09 > 0:27:12LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:27:14 > 0:27:17So he came on, he was himself, and it was such a funny scene.

0:27:17 > 0:27:19It was amazing.

0:27:19 > 0:27:23Now, talking of hanging out with big musical stars - Ed Sheeran,

0:27:23 > 0:27:26- the Galway Girl video.- Yeah. - So how did that happen, Saoirse?

0:27:26 > 0:27:27Did you know him already?

0:27:27 > 0:27:31No, I didn't know him, but we have a lot of mutual friends,

0:27:31 > 0:27:35friends from Suffolk, which is where he grew up,

0:27:35 > 0:27:37and friends in New Zealand, and things like that.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40And I was out one night, I was out with my friends in London,

0:27:40 > 0:27:45and the casting agent who was casting for the video just

0:27:45 > 0:27:48e-mailed me and said, "Here, do you want to be in an Ed Sheeran video?"

0:27:48 > 0:27:50And I was like, "Yeah, all right."

0:27:50 > 0:27:53And it was going to be on my birthday.

0:27:53 > 0:27:5512th April, just so you know.

0:27:57 > 0:28:00And, yeah, and I did it, and it was brilliant.

0:28:00 > 0:28:04He filmed the whole thing. He had, like, a camera on a rig,

0:28:04 > 0:28:09and we just ran around Galway for an entire night, and he had...

0:28:09 > 0:28:11Because he's... I mean, he's huge everywhere,

0:28:11 > 0:28:13but he's beloved in Ireland.

0:28:13 > 0:28:15Like, everyone loves him so much.

0:28:15 > 0:28:17And so all of Galway just, like,

0:28:17 > 0:28:20followed us around from place to place.

0:28:20 > 0:28:22But the tattoo in the video,

0:28:22 > 0:28:23- the Galway Grill...- Yeah.

0:28:23 > 0:28:24..so he really did get...?

0:28:24 > 0:28:26There's something not quite right about that.

0:28:26 > 0:28:30- He got that really tattooed?- He did, yeah.- That's your handwriting?

0:28:30 > 0:28:33- That's my handwriting.- So you wrote it on him? And did you mean...?

0:28:33 > 0:28:36No, I was very, very nervous about it, so I practised

0:28:36 > 0:28:39for about half an hour before they actually tattooed it on.

0:28:39 > 0:28:41And that's what you came up with?

0:28:41 > 0:28:43LAUGHTER

0:28:44 > 0:28:45I can't change it now.

0:28:45 > 0:28:48To be fair, the state of his arm, he ain't picky, is he?

0:28:48 > 0:28:52- No, it was...- You did better than that.- What is that, actually?

0:28:52 > 0:28:54- I don't know.- That's a stamp from a nightclub.

0:28:56 > 0:28:58Went out the night before.

0:28:58 > 0:29:01But did you mean to do the bad spelling?

0:29:01 > 0:29:04No, it wasn't my idea to do the bad spelling.

0:29:04 > 0:29:06He's been saying to people at his gig

0:29:06 > 0:29:09that I just misspelled the word "girl", but I didn't.

0:29:09 > 0:29:14The tour manager, in Dublin, we'd had a few drinks during the show,

0:29:14 > 0:29:18cos he did two shows in Dublin after we did the music video,

0:29:18 > 0:29:20and the tour manager was going by, and he was like,

0:29:20 > 0:29:24"You know what'd be gas? If you misspelled the word 'girl'

0:29:24 > 0:29:26"and tattooed something else onto him."

0:29:26 > 0:29:28And so we did Galway Grill instead, and we got a tattoo artist

0:29:28 > 0:29:31to come in at, like, 12 o'clock at night, to Dublin,

0:29:31 > 0:29:35during a birthday party that was being had in town.

0:29:35 > 0:29:39- And...- You can't get good ones, that time of night, though, can you?

0:29:39 > 0:29:42- No, no...- The emergency ones tend to be not so good.

0:29:42 > 0:29:45Even the locksmiths that come out, they just kick your door in.

0:29:47 > 0:29:50But he came in, and he was terrified, like,

0:29:50 > 0:29:54this poor fella was having to, like, tattoo onto Ed Sheeran's arm.

0:29:54 > 0:29:56With the arm that he plays the guitar with, so...

0:29:56 > 0:29:59He must have been like, "I've been told to spell it wrong!"

0:29:59 > 0:30:01Yeah, yeah.

0:30:01 > 0:30:04Was there a Galway Grill that actually benefited from this...?

0:30:04 > 0:30:07- Probably is now. - There probably is now, yeah.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10- It's a thing now, it's a thing now. - Look it up.- Yeah.

0:30:10 > 0:30:13Now, talking of working with ginger musical icons...

0:30:15 > 0:30:18Well, that is the greatest segue way in television history.

0:30:18 > 0:30:19That is incredible.

0:30:19 > 0:30:22Who knew that we'd have two of them?

0:30:22 > 0:30:24Spice Girls' Geri Horner.

0:30:24 > 0:30:27Now, so, did you have meetings with Geri beforehand? How does it work?

0:30:27 > 0:30:30We were supposed to meet up for a cup of tea, but then it never

0:30:30 > 0:30:32happened cos it was quite a short time between she was confirmed

0:30:32 > 0:30:35to do it and we started filming, so I met up with her at the studio

0:30:35 > 0:30:38when we was filming it. But she's amazing, she's so lovely.

0:30:38 > 0:30:40But have you broken it to her, that growing up,

0:30:40 > 0:30:42she wasn't your favourite?

0:30:42 > 0:30:44- Well, she was.- She was my... - She was.

0:30:44 > 0:30:47She was my favourite, you know?

0:30:47 > 0:30:49She was my favourite. Erm... No...

0:30:49 > 0:30:52She was my favourite, but I dressed up as Baby Spice for

0:30:52 > 0:30:55a school assembly at primary school cos I was the blond one.

0:30:55 > 0:30:57And there was a ginger kid in the class,

0:30:57 > 0:31:01and I couldn't nick Ginger Spice off him - it were all he had!

0:31:01 > 0:31:03Sheeran hadn't been invented.

0:31:03 > 0:31:05So we got the egg hunt picture,

0:31:05 > 0:31:08- but we didn't get the Baby Spice picture?- I know.

0:31:08 > 0:31:11I was saying to the researcher, like, "Did we get that?!"

0:31:11 > 0:31:13I was quite cute when I was about eight.

0:31:13 > 0:31:14It was 15, it all went wrong, so...

0:31:14 > 0:31:17That's the worst it got, I think - the Easter egg hunt.

0:31:17 > 0:31:19Because, Debra, did Ginger Spice do great things

0:31:19 > 0:31:21for redheads all over the world?

0:31:21 > 0:31:26- I don't know! Did she?- I don't know.

0:31:26 > 0:31:31You know what? In America, redheads on television,

0:31:31 > 0:31:33it's equated with being funny.

0:31:33 > 0:31:37Like, I Love Lucy, Carol Burnett, and so...

0:31:37 > 0:31:39And you.

0:31:39 > 0:31:43Well, I was a dark auburn, and when I got my first comedy,

0:31:43 > 0:31:44my TV show, they were like,

0:31:44 > 0:31:47"Oh, you've got to make your hair redder."

0:31:47 > 0:31:50And I was like, "Well, why?" And they were like, "It's funnier."

0:31:50 > 0:31:54LAUGHTER

0:31:54 > 0:31:57- It's more clown-like. - And I was like...

0:31:57 > 0:32:01I'm like, "Ronald McDonald?" Like, what are you talking about?

0:32:01 > 0:32:04So I guess that's the rule in America.

0:32:04 > 0:32:06Well, Rob's new show with Geri

0:32:06 > 0:32:08is this new singing competition, All Together Now.

0:32:08 > 0:32:11It's Saturday nights, BBC One, 7.15.

0:32:11 > 0:32:13We're two weeks in, it's going really well,

0:32:13 > 0:32:15and it is...it's a really...

0:32:15 > 0:32:18- I just think it's a big-hearted show.- Yeah.

0:32:18 > 0:32:21It's kind of a lovely watch. So talk us through the premise.

0:32:21 > 0:32:23Well, it's not like another singing show,

0:32:23 > 0:32:24it's more of a game show with singing in it,

0:32:24 > 0:32:27and there's, instead of, like, the classic two or three judges,

0:32:27 > 0:32:30there's 100 judges made up of people that have worked in the music

0:32:30 > 0:32:32industry, and they're all characters in their own right,

0:32:32 > 0:32:35and they're miked up, so when someone's singing, you can hear

0:32:35 > 0:32:37what they're thinking and saying during it.

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Geri's in there, she's sort of the leader of them.

0:32:39 > 0:32:41And then when someone comes up, they start singing,

0:32:41 > 0:32:44and then, if they like it, the judges, they stand up

0:32:44 > 0:32:45and join in and sing along.

0:32:45 > 0:32:49And if they don't, they stay sitted, so... Seated. Stay "sitted"!

0:32:49 > 0:32:51I've already got the PR patter down, haven't I?

0:32:51 > 0:32:54I've got to learn the word "seated". "They stay sitted..."

0:32:54 > 0:32:56LAUGHTER

0:32:56 > 0:32:59And then I come out and tell them what they got.

0:32:59 > 0:33:01The thing is, I really take the mickey and mess about,

0:33:01 > 0:33:04which doesn't normally happen on those sorts of talent shows.

0:33:04 > 0:33:07It's so much fun, it's really warm-hearted and silly,

0:33:07 > 0:33:10it doesn't take itself too serious, and it's a joy to make.

0:33:10 > 0:33:12It looks like it was fun...

0:33:12 > 0:33:15I knew it was decent because all the camera crew were enjoying it,

0:33:15 > 0:33:18and I've not seen cameramen smile for about 15 years.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23- Yeah! Getting into it. - They're smiling. Some of them.

0:33:23 > 0:33:25- Just about.- Yeah.

0:33:25 > 0:33:27This is a clip of tomorrow night's show,

0:33:27 > 0:33:29and it's kind of the end of a performance.

0:33:29 > 0:33:31Well, you'll see, you'll see.

0:33:31 > 0:33:33# My tears, as they dry... #

0:33:33 > 0:33:34Oh, yeah.

0:33:34 > 0:33:38# I'm gonna... #

0:33:38 > 0:33:40Oh, yes!

0:33:40 > 0:33:42CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:33:42 > 0:33:45- Oh, God. Oh, my God. - Sorry, sorry.

0:33:46 > 0:33:49- You all right, buddy?- I think I'll just take the stairs next time.

0:33:51 > 0:33:53- Lili?- Oh, God.

0:33:53 > 0:33:56Lili, let's be honest, you've stood up for everyone so far.

0:33:56 > 0:33:59- You know you don't have to? You can just...- I know.

0:33:59 > 0:34:01I understand the premises of the game.

0:34:01 > 0:34:04LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:34:04 > 0:34:06Absolutely burned.

0:34:06 > 0:34:07Fair enough.

0:34:07 > 0:34:11APPLAUSE

0:34:11 > 0:34:13- Who's she? Who's Lili?- Lili?

0:34:13 > 0:34:17Lili is from Romania and now lives in he East End

0:34:17 > 0:34:20and sings Cockney songs in a local pub, and she's amazing.

0:34:20 > 0:34:23And her and Geri got on so well, it was sort of freaky.

0:34:23 > 0:34:25And that's good cos you get all the little snippets

0:34:25 > 0:34:27of just Geri chatting to all these people. It's great.

0:34:27 > 0:34:29- And the running around...?- Yes.

0:34:29 > 0:34:31You see, I just think, if I was you,

0:34:31 > 0:34:33I'd have gone, "No. I won't be doing that."

0:34:33 > 0:34:36I think we're at different points of our career, Graham.

0:34:38 > 0:34:41You know, give it a few years, I might ask for, you know,

0:34:41 > 0:34:43- I need some help up and down the stairs.- "I'll have a chair."

0:34:43 > 0:34:45"Can I have a stairlift, is that all right?"

0:34:45 > 0:34:47No, it was fun.

0:34:47 > 0:34:50It was pretty tiring, but, you know, I've done proper jobs.

0:34:50 > 0:34:51I used to work at a flower market,

0:34:51 > 0:34:54so chatting to people about a song ain't a killer.

0:34:54 > 0:34:56I actually sold you a bag of compost.

0:34:56 > 0:34:59LAUGHTER

0:34:59 > 0:35:01- Did you really? - Columbia Road Flower Market.

0:35:01 > 0:35:04- Oh, my God.- I worked there from 14 and I remember seeing you

0:35:04 > 0:35:07- and I sold you a pot.- Wow!- I think I actually carried it for you,

0:35:07 > 0:35:10- you gave me a tip. - Thank God!- I know.

0:35:10 > 0:35:13- Can you imagine that? - Always tip, ladies and gentlemen.

0:35:14 > 0:35:18- This could happen.- Yeah. "That's Graham Norton! It's Graham Norton!"

0:35:18 > 0:35:21Well, I think that's the only bag of compost I've ever bought.

0:35:23 > 0:35:25I even sort of remember it.

0:35:26 > 0:35:29Yeah, that was my first job, selling bags of shit in the street.

0:35:31 > 0:35:35In the morning, east London, brutal.

0:35:35 > 0:35:36"Anyone want a bag of shit?

0:35:38 > 0:35:40"Bag of shit going here, ten for a fiver!

0:35:41 > 0:35:44"I'll carry it to your car for 50p!"

0:35:44 > 0:35:46- So, running up shiny stairs... - Oh, it's fun, you know,

0:35:46 > 0:35:48- it's quite good exercise.- Yes!- Yeah.

0:35:48 > 0:35:50But is it weird being recognised now?

0:35:50 > 0:35:53It's weird in south-east London cos it's quite rough,

0:35:53 > 0:35:55so the same look you get when someone thinks you're famous

0:35:55 > 0:35:58is the same one they look at you with if they want to chin you.

0:36:00 > 0:36:01Sort of just like that...

0:36:05 > 0:36:08APPLAUSE

0:36:10 > 0:36:13You're like, "Yes, it's me... Oh, God!"

0:36:13 > 0:36:15Listen, it's time to meet our music act tonight

0:36:15 > 0:36:17and this is a real treat.

0:36:17 > 0:36:19This singer shot to fame as the Bearded Woman

0:36:19 > 0:36:22in The Greatest Showman for which the soundtrack album

0:36:22 > 0:36:23has broken all records.

0:36:23 > 0:36:28Here performing the Oscar-nominated This Is Me, it is Keala Settle.

0:36:43 > 0:36:47# I'm not a stranger to the dark

0:36:47 > 0:36:50# Hide away, they say

0:36:50 > 0:36:53# Cos we don't want your broken parts

0:36:53 > 0:36:58# I've learned to be ashamed of all my scars

0:36:58 > 0:37:01# Run away, they say

0:37:01 > 0:37:03# No-one will love you as you are

0:37:03 > 0:37:07# But I won't let them break me down to dust

0:37:07 > 0:37:10# I know that there's a place for us

0:37:10 > 0:37:15# For we are glorious

0:37:17 > 0:37:22# When the sharpest words wanna cut me down

0:37:22 > 0:37:27# I'm gonna send a flood Gonna drown them out

0:37:27 > 0:37:29# I am brave, I am bruised

0:37:29 > 0:37:31# I am who I'm meant to be

0:37:31 > 0:37:33# This is me

0:37:33 > 0:37:37# Look out cos here I come

0:37:37 > 0:37:42# And I'm marching on to the beat I drum

0:37:42 > 0:37:44# I'm not scared to be seen

0:37:44 > 0:37:48# I make no apologies, this is me

0:37:48 > 0:37:50# Oh-oh-oh

0:37:50 > 0:37:52# Oh-oh-oh

0:37:52 > 0:37:55# Oh-oh-oh

0:37:55 > 0:37:57# Oh-oh-oh

0:37:57 > 0:37:59- # Oh-oh-oh - Oh-oh-oh

0:37:59 > 0:38:02# Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

0:38:02 > 0:38:07# Another round of bullets hits my skin

0:38:07 > 0:38:09- # Well, fire away - Oh-oh

0:38:09 > 0:38:10- # Cos today - Oh-oh

0:38:10 > 0:38:12# I won't let the shame sink in

0:38:12 > 0:38:15# We are bursting through the barricades

0:38:15 > 0:38:19- # And reaching for the sun - We are warriors

0:38:19 > 0:38:23- # Yeah, that's what we've become - Yeah, that's what we've become

0:38:23 > 0:38:25# I won't let them break me down to dust

0:38:25 > 0:38:29# I know that there's a place for us

0:38:29 > 0:38:32# For we are glorious

0:38:32 > 0:38:37# When the sharpest words wanna cut me down

0:38:37 > 0:38:42# I'm gonna send a flood Gonna drown them out

0:38:42 > 0:38:44# I am brave, I am bruised

0:38:44 > 0:38:46# I am who I'm meant to be

0:38:46 > 0:38:48# This is me

0:38:48 > 0:38:52# Look out cos here I come

0:38:52 > 0:38:57# And I'm marching on to the beat I drum

0:38:57 > 0:38:59# I'm not scared to be seen

0:38:59 > 0:39:03# I make no apologies, this is me

0:39:03 > 0:39:05# Oh-oh-oh

0:39:05 > 0:39:07# Oh-oh-oh

0:39:07 > 0:39:10# Oh-oh-oh

0:39:10 > 0:39:12# Oh-oh-oh

0:39:12 > 0:39:14- # Oh-oh-oh - Oh-oh-oh

0:39:14 > 0:39:17# Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh This is me

0:39:17 > 0:39:19# Oh-oh-oh

0:39:19 > 0:39:25# And I know that I deserve your love

0:39:25 > 0:39:31# There's nothing I'm not worthy of

0:39:32 > 0:39:37# When the sharpest words wanna cut me down

0:39:37 > 0:39:42# I'm gonna send a flood Gonna drown them out

0:39:42 > 0:39:45# This is brave, this is bruised

0:39:45 > 0:39:48# This is who I'm meant to be This is me

0:39:48 > 0:39:53- # Look out cos here I come - Look out cos here I come

0:39:53 > 0:39:56# And I'm marching on to the beat I drum

0:39:56 > 0:39:59- # Marching on, marching, marching on - To the beat I drum

0:39:59 > 0:40:00# I'm not scared to be seen

0:40:00 > 0:40:04# I make no apologies, this is me

0:40:04 > 0:40:06# Whenever the words wanna cut me down

0:40:06 > 0:40:09# I send a flood to drown them out

0:40:09 > 0:40:12# I'm gonna send a flood

0:40:12 > 0:40:15- # Gonna drown them out - Oh-oh-oh

0:40:15 > 0:40:18- # Oh, yeah - Oh-oh-oh

0:40:18 > 0:40:20# This is me. #

0:40:20 > 0:40:23APPLAUSE AND CHEERING Wow!

0:40:26 > 0:40:28Amazing!

0:40:30 > 0:40:33Stunning. Keala, come and join us.

0:40:34 > 0:40:37Wow! That was incredible.

0:40:37 > 0:40:41- Thank you so, so much.- Thank you. - Come and say hello to everybody.

0:40:41 > 0:40:43Keala Settle, everybody!

0:40:43 > 0:40:45- That's Rob Beckett.- How you doing? - Yeah, good to meet you.

0:40:45 > 0:40:48- Lovely to meet you.- Debra. - Unbelievable.

0:40:48 > 0:40:51APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:40:51 > 0:40:56- Wow!- It was amazing, well done. It was so good.

0:40:56 > 0:40:57That was stunning.

0:40:57 > 0:40:59We haven't had a reaction to a performance like that in ages.

0:40:59 > 0:41:02- That was amazing.- Is that a good thing?- Yes.- OK, good.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04- Yeah, there was a good reaction. - It was amazing,

0:41:04 > 0:41:07I counted, 100 standing up, you smashed it.

0:41:07 > 0:41:09Seriously, fantastic.

0:41:09 > 0:41:11And that, of course, is from the soundtrack of The Greatest Showman.

0:41:11 > 0:41:13- Yes.- And that is out now.

0:41:13 > 0:41:16And, of course, one of the next times you'll be performing that

0:41:16 > 0:41:19- will be at the Oscars with Saoirse. - I know, I saw Saoirse earlier,

0:41:19 > 0:41:22I went, "Sorry, darling, you have to hear this another time."

0:41:22 > 0:41:24- Whatever, yeah.- Yeah!

0:41:24 > 0:41:27How does that happen? I mean, do you...? When do rehearsals start?

0:41:27 > 0:41:30- How do...?- No comment.- Oh, OK. - I'll get fired from the Oscars

0:41:30 > 0:41:32- if I give you any information.- OK.

0:41:32 > 0:41:36- But I will tell you that I do get to sing at it.- Wow!

0:41:36 > 0:41:37Does she win?

0:41:37 > 0:41:40I can't give you that information either.

0:41:40 > 0:41:42Also get fired.

0:41:42 > 0:41:45So, listen, this is a really special thing,

0:41:45 > 0:41:47- here you are in this movie... - Thanks for having us.

0:41:47 > 0:41:49..the soundtrack's gone well, you're at the Oscars

0:41:49 > 0:41:53- but this was never meant to happen. - No!- How did you end up in the film?

0:41:53 > 0:41:55- Tell us your story. - Oh, it's Hugh Jackman's fault.- OK.

0:41:55 > 0:41:57It's all Hugh Jackman's fault.

0:41:57 > 0:42:01I was successfully hiding from the world in New York City

0:42:01 > 0:42:05for about 25 years and so because the hustle is the hustle

0:42:05 > 0:42:07when you're on a Broadway show,

0:42:07 > 0:42:09you always book a show and then you try and find another one.

0:42:09 > 0:42:13They were trying to find a Bearded Lady for a reading of

0:42:13 > 0:42:16The Greatest Show On Earth, which is what it was called at the time

0:42:16 > 0:42:18and... Ooft.

0:42:18 > 0:42:21And I said, "Yeah, sure, I'll do it, how much is it?

0:42:21 > 0:42:24"Great, I'll pay my rent. Go ahead and hand it over, I'll do it."

0:42:24 > 0:42:26And then I ended up doing it two more times

0:42:26 > 0:42:29and the last time ended up being the green light

0:42:29 > 0:42:31that Fox gave for us to do it.

0:42:31 > 0:42:33And you were in the room and...

0:42:33 > 0:42:38Yeah, I did it and it was the first time that they had heard This Is Me.

0:42:38 > 0:42:41It was actually one of the last two songs written for the film

0:42:41 > 0:42:44and it was written a week before that whole thing and they said,

0:42:44 > 0:42:47"Do you want to sing it?" I said, "Absolutely not.

0:42:47 > 0:42:49"Find somebody else and I'll sing soprano or alto,

0:42:49 > 0:42:51"just go find somebody else."

0:42:51 > 0:42:53And the story goes with my director, he said,

0:42:53 > 0:42:56"What will it take for you to do this?"

0:42:56 > 0:42:58"I said, "You buy me a bottle of Jameson, I'll do it."

0:42:58 > 0:43:02- Nice!- Showed up the next day with them little black liquor bags

0:43:02 > 0:43:05that you get in New York City, pulled the bag down

0:43:05 > 0:43:07and there was my bottle of Jameson. I was like, "Dang it!"

0:43:07 > 0:43:10- I did the song.- You're cheap. - Well, yeah.

0:43:10 > 0:43:13- Simple.- I think you need a new agent, to be honest with you.

0:43:13 > 0:43:16It was very simple, you know?

0:43:16 > 0:43:18At least ask for a case.

0:43:18 > 0:43:21And, you know, budget, I had no idea what the budget was.

0:43:21 > 0:43:22Listen, we've got a little surprise for you

0:43:22 > 0:43:24because somebody heard you were on the show

0:43:24 > 0:43:27- and a very famous Australian sent you this message.- No.- Yes.

0:43:27 > 0:43:30Hi. I hope you're having a great time there with Graham,

0:43:30 > 0:43:32I'm sure you are. Hi, Graham.

0:43:32 > 0:43:36So, I've got one little message for you

0:43:36 > 0:43:39because you took this song through four workshops,

0:43:39 > 0:43:42you crushed it so well, it became an anthem

0:43:42 > 0:43:44for many, many people around the world,

0:43:44 > 0:43:48you sing it so well that you got yourself nominated for an Oscar

0:43:48 > 0:43:50and topped the charts in a lot of countries

0:43:50 > 0:43:53and I have four words for you, Keala.

0:43:53 > 0:43:55It's all your fault.

0:43:55 > 0:43:57No, it's not!

0:43:57 > 0:43:58Aw, that's sweet.

0:43:58 > 0:44:01APPLAUSE

0:44:01 > 0:44:04Oh, my God, so wonderful.

0:44:06 > 0:44:09How did you know he was going to say it's all your fault?

0:44:09 > 0:44:13Because I tell him that, I mean, I told you when I first sat down,

0:44:13 > 0:44:16it is his fault. This is the only reason why I was in this film

0:44:16 > 0:44:19was because of Hugh Jackman and Hugh Jackman alone

0:44:19 > 0:44:24and he continued to believe in me when I refused to, refused to.

0:44:24 > 0:44:27I fought so hard to not to believe in myself and he said,

0:44:27 > 0:44:29"Oh, stuff that, come on, let's go."

0:44:29 > 0:44:31And I should mention, in this country,

0:44:31 > 0:44:33The Greatest Showman has taken on another new life,

0:44:33 > 0:44:35they're doing these special singalong...

0:44:35 > 0:44:37I know, I'm so glad they're finally here!

0:44:37 > 0:44:41But, let me say, good luck singing along with that, but...

0:44:41 > 0:44:43But here's what happens, you go into these singalongs

0:44:43 > 0:44:46and some people go by themselves cos obviously they're going,

0:44:46 > 0:44:48"I'm the only person in the world who's going to watch this

0:44:48 > 0:44:51for the ninth time," and then they go into these sold-out theatres

0:44:51 > 0:44:53going, "That person's been here for the sixth time."

0:44:53 > 0:44:55And you don't know them, but by the time the music starts,

0:44:55 > 0:44:58you become best friends and all of you are dancing

0:44:58 > 0:45:01whatever you want to dance and singing whatever you want to sing

0:45:01 > 0:45:02- within the film and it's... - Oh, my God.

0:45:02 > 0:45:07That song will be butchered at karaoke for years and years.

0:45:07 > 0:45:08They all will, they all will.

0:45:08 > 0:45:12It starts around the country on the 23rd of February.

0:45:12 > 0:45:14- I'm so pleased for you. It's fantastic.- Thank you.

0:45:14 > 0:45:18- What a great story...- Thank you so much.- ..and what a great performance

0:45:18 > 0:45:20- and good luck to both of you at the Oscars.- Yeah.

0:45:20 > 0:45:24Keala Settle, everybody. APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:45:25 > 0:45:28Right, that's nearly it, but before we go,

0:45:28 > 0:45:32just time for a quick visit to the big red chair.

0:45:32 > 0:45:35- Hello!- Hello! Hi, Graham. - Hi, what's your name?

0:45:35 > 0:45:38- My name's Debbie.- Debbie, lovely. And where are you from, Debbie?

0:45:38 > 0:45:41- I'm from Kent.- Lovely, and what do you do down there?

0:45:41 > 0:45:43I'm an airline cabin crew member.

0:45:43 > 0:45:46- Ooh! Can you say which airline it is?- No.- Ooh.

0:45:46 > 0:45:47LAUGHTER DROWNS SPEECH

0:45:47 > 0:45:51Wow, that good. Or maybe it reflects on the story.

0:45:51 > 0:45:53- Off you go with your story.- OK.

0:45:53 > 0:45:56Well, it happened 30 years ago, almost,

0:45:56 > 0:46:00my youngest daughter was a baby, just a few months old

0:46:00 > 0:46:03and she was still being fed in the night, so...

0:46:03 > 0:46:07My ex-husband had a particular aversion to breastmilk

0:46:07 > 0:46:09for some peculiar reason.

0:46:09 > 0:46:12Anyway, she woke up in the middle of the night

0:46:12 > 0:46:15and I got her out of her cot, took her into bed with me,

0:46:15 > 0:46:18rested her in that arm, feeding her nicely,

0:46:18 > 0:46:21the right side started to leak profusely and was squirting...

0:46:21 > 0:46:25- Oh, God.- ..all over his face and woke him up

0:46:25 > 0:46:27and he went, "Ugh! Ugh!

0:46:27 > 0:46:29"Get it off me."

0:46:29 > 0:46:31And I thought, "Hm, that's not a very nice reaction."

0:46:31 > 0:46:34So the next day, I made him a lovely apple crumble

0:46:34 > 0:46:36with some very special breast milk custard.

0:46:36 > 0:46:39APPLAUSE Well done, that lady. You can walk.

0:46:39 > 0:46:41- Well done!- You can walk.- Well done!

0:46:41 > 0:46:44Well done! Well done!

0:46:44 > 0:46:46Love that one!

0:46:50 > 0:46:51And of course she said ex-husband.

0:46:51 > 0:46:55I know, ex-husband, he was her ex-husband, yeah.

0:46:55 > 0:46:59- And then the marriage went tits up. - APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:47:01 > 0:47:03- Ting!- Ting!

0:47:03 > 0:47:06If you'd like to join us on the show and have a go in that red chair,

0:47:06 > 0:47:09you can contact us via our website at this address.

0:47:09 > 0:47:10Sadly that is it for tonight.

0:47:10 > 0:47:13Please say a huge thank you to my guests, Keala Settle...

0:47:13 > 0:47:16APPLAUSE AND CHEERING ..Rob Beckett...

0:47:18 > 0:47:20..Debra Messing...

0:47:20 > 0:47:21..Eric McCormack...

0:47:23 > 0:47:26..and Saoirse Ronan.

0:47:26 > 0:47:29Join me next week with singer-songwriter Camila Cabello,

0:47:29 > 0:47:32brand-new Lara Croft Alicia Vikander,

0:47:32 > 0:47:35rising British star Daniel Kaluuya, and from I, Tonya,

0:47:35 > 0:47:38the Oscar-nominated Allison Janney and Margot Robbie.

0:47:38 > 0:47:41I'll see you, then. Goodnight, everybody, bye-bye!

0:47:41 > 0:47:44APPLAUSE