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0:00:05 > 0:00:09For almost 150 years, the Stirling museum and art gallery

0:00:09 > 0:00:11has held the history, the heart

0:00:11 > 0:00:15and the curiosities of Stirling in this magnificent little building.

0:00:15 > 0:00:18And today, it's host to the Quizeum.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33Welcome to a city that was once described as the brooch that

0:00:33 > 0:00:37joins the Highlands to the Lowlands. We're in Stirling.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40And no fewer than six great battles that decided the whole

0:00:40 > 0:00:43future of Scotland have been fought near here.

0:00:43 > 0:00:47Tonight, of course, we have another one. Ours is a battle of minds.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49With four rounds of questions, drawing on just

0:00:49 > 0:00:53some of the remarkable objects found in this wonderfully eclectic museum.

0:00:53 > 0:00:57We have two teams ready to fight to the death.

0:00:57 > 0:01:02On my right, battle scarred Quizeum field marshal Lars Tharp.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05He's joined by distinguished art historian,

0:01:05 > 0:01:08television presenter and adopted Scot, Helen Rosslyn.

0:01:08 > 0:01:13Facing them are commander of medieval art, Dr Janina Ramirez.

0:01:13 > 0:01:16And with her, presenter, comedian, journalist, author,

0:01:16 > 0:01:18Scottish patriot, Hardeep Singh Kohli.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Welcome, all. Welcome to Stirling.

0:01:20 > 0:01:25- Do you know Stirling well, Lars?- No. - Oh, OK. What about you, Hardeep?- Yes.

0:01:25 > 0:01:27It's sort of the heart of Scotland,

0:01:27 > 0:01:29so you'd come here for discounted shopping.

0:01:29 > 0:01:31- And to see the castle.- Yes.

0:01:31 > 0:01:34Although, funnily enough, there's also a pub on the

0:01:34 > 0:01:36Great Western Road in Glasgow called Stirling Castle,

0:01:36 > 0:01:39and I once drunkenly got into a cab and asked to go to Stirling Castle.

0:01:39 > 0:01:4245 quid later, I was here, long after closing hours.

0:01:42 > 0:01:47- So, still smarts slightly.- And which was better, in your opinion?

0:01:47 > 0:01:49Eq... Equally valid.

0:01:49 > 0:01:52Well, my plan in this first round is to try and get

0:01:52 > 0:01:56a handle on the nature of this wee museum that we've found ourselves in.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59Because it is quite a wee museum, Helen, isn't it? Quite a small one.

0:01:59 > 0:02:02It's rather lovely. It's just like walking through a house.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05So, fingers on your buzzers, because I'm going to ask a question, it's

0:02:05 > 0:02:08open to both teams, and if you give the right answer,

0:02:08 > 0:02:11you get a point and first go at a more complicated specialist

0:02:11 > 0:02:13question, which is worth two points.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16Have a look at this, this is a painting from the 1660s

0:02:16 > 0:02:18by Johannes Vorstermans.

0:02:18 > 0:02:22It is the oldest painting, in oils, of Stirling,

0:02:22 > 0:02:26but which river are we sitting on?

0:02:26 > 0:02:28BUZZER

0:02:28 > 0:02:30- Yes.- It is the Forth.- The Forth.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33So you get the specialist question.

0:02:33 > 0:02:35Now, have a look at this painting here.

0:02:35 > 0:02:40Can you tell me why did it not get the exhibition

0:02:40 > 0:02:42that its painter desired?

0:02:44 > 0:02:47Because it was quite controversial at the time.

0:02:47 > 0:02:51It's by Thomas Stuart Smith, who founded the museum,

0:02:51 > 0:02:54and it was all about the abolition of slavery.

0:02:54 > 0:02:57And it's called The Pipe Of Freedom.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00And, really, he was quite novel in using black

0:03:00 > 0:03:05men as the celebrated protagonists of paintings.

0:03:05 > 0:03:08Because normally they were just incidental in the 19th century.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11So, therefore, he didn't get an exhibition

0:03:11 > 0:03:15- because it was not in favour at the time.- Excellent.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17This painting, The Pipe Of Freedom,

0:03:17 > 0:03:20was completed by Thomas Stuart Smith between 1862 and 1868,

0:03:20 > 0:03:23and it shows a freed slave enjoying a pipe of tobacco.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27The borough provided the site for this museum.

0:03:27 > 0:03:31Smith provided his own art collection in 1874,

0:03:31 > 0:03:35but it is much more than a collection of art here.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39It has many significant curiosities, and so here's another opener.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42BUZZER Nina.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44It's the world's oldest football?

0:03:45 > 0:03:48That's not the question I've got written down here. Oh, no!

0:03:48 > 0:03:52The question I have written here is, "This is believed to be

0:03:52 > 0:03:57"the oldest football in the world to the nearest 50 years. How old is it?"

0:03:57 > 0:03:59And it has to go over this side.

0:04:01 > 0:04:05I would guess, being Shakespearean and before... You...

0:04:07 > 0:04:1018... 1540. Would that do?

0:04:10 > 0:04:12Well done.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15This ball was found in Mary Queen of Scots' bedroom,

0:04:15 > 0:04:18in Stirling Castle, behind the panelling, in the 1970s.

0:04:18 > 0:04:21And they think it might have been kicked up there by somebody

0:04:21 > 0:04:24while they were building. I'm sorry, you see, you fell into my trap.

0:04:24 > 0:04:26What makes it worse is that now I've realised that Scotland

0:04:26 > 0:04:31haven't qualified for a World Cup knockout stages since 1540.

0:04:31 > 0:04:33I thought it was just since 1932.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36Lars and Helen, on that note, we are going to pass on to your bonus

0:04:36 > 0:04:38question, because I want you to tell me

0:04:38 > 0:04:42why this lump of black basalt

0:04:42 > 0:04:44- coming in...- Oh, my goodness.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50- ..is a rival to the football. - What's this groove in the top?

0:04:50 > 0:04:53It's got a dimple in the back, and it's got a groove here,

0:04:53 > 0:04:57so the idea is that whoever was using this, for whatever it was,

0:04:57 > 0:05:00is holding it like this. It's not curling, is it, do you suppose?

0:05:00 > 0:05:02- JANINA:- It is.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06- I think it's curling.- Well done. - So what's your answer?

0:05:06 > 0:05:10- We think it's a curling stone.- OK. And how would it rival the football?

0:05:10 > 0:05:13- Oh, it's the oldest curling stone. - It is the oldest curling stone.

0:05:13 > 0:05:17This was found in the Milton Bog, not far from here.

0:05:17 > 0:05:21They also found the oldest rusty shopping trolley in the world.

0:05:21 > 0:05:23LAUGHTER

0:05:23 > 0:05:26- That I believe, yes.- But they got the money back on that one.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28Let's go onto another opening question.

0:05:28 > 0:05:32Can you tell me who was this visitor to Stirling?

0:05:32 > 0:05:35- BUZZER - Bonnie Prince Charlie.- Bonnie Prince Charlie.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37You pick up another...

0:05:37 > 0:05:39HE LAUGHS

0:05:39 > 0:05:42Well done. Charles Edward Louis

0:05:42 > 0:05:46John Casimir Sylvester Severino Maria Stuart,

0:05:46 > 0:05:49"The Young Pretender". And he was given the key to

0:05:49 > 0:05:52Stirling on 6 January 1746.

0:05:52 > 0:05:56It wasn't actually returned until 1960.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59I do a bit the same sometimes with hotel keys myself.

0:05:59 > 0:06:01It's quite interesting, that portrait,

0:06:01 > 0:06:04cos it's painted by somebody called Cosmo Alexandra,

0:06:04 > 0:06:06and I think it was actually painted in Rome,

0:06:06 > 0:06:11because after the Jacobite uprising, so many Jacobites fled to Rome

0:06:11 > 0:06:16and he made his money painting portraits, in Rome, of Jacobites.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20- There was a sort of sense of artists going where the money was.- Yes.

0:06:20 > 0:06:24You get a specialist question. What was this fan

0:06:24 > 0:06:27intended to support?

0:06:27 > 0:06:32- Intended to support.- I'm going to pick it up.- Is it Chinese?

0:06:32 > 0:06:35- Be very, very careful.- I'm going to be very careful with it, don't worry.

0:06:35 > 0:06:38- Well, on the top left, that's surely Stirling Castle.- Yes.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40It's obviously a piece of propaganda.

0:06:40 > 0:06:45And there is this fella here who has a kneeling Highlander in plaid,

0:06:45 > 0:06:49whilst all the other Highlanders seem to be going over the river.

0:06:49 > 0:06:53Ah! And they are pursued by Hanoverians.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56So I reckon that the gentleman on the horse could be

0:06:56 > 0:06:59- Butcher Cumberland. - Indeed, you're quite right.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02The Duke of Cumberland and the Hanoverian regime.

0:07:02 > 0:07:07It is an anti-Jacobite fan that the ladies of Stirling were

0:07:07 > 0:07:11expected to display in the Duke's presence.

0:07:11 > 0:07:15Because it portrays the siege of Stirling in 1746,

0:07:15 > 0:07:18which was yet another siege at Stirling.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20There were a lot of sieges going on at that time, but if you

0:07:20 > 0:07:24build your town on a strategic site, you have to expect a few sieges.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28In reality, Cumberland had few real fans here.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30- Oh!- Mm-hm.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33- They love panto in Scotland, don't they, Hardeep?- Oh, no, they don't.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35LAUGHTER

0:07:35 > 0:07:38Stirling also has a distinguished history of trade industry

0:07:38 > 0:07:40and learning, reflected in the museum. Now, look at this.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43This is another opener question, so fingers on buzzers.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45This is one of the rarest treasures in the museum.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47It's about 12 inches long.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51It was made around 1790, but why was it made?

0:07:52 > 0:07:54BUZZER

0:07:54 > 0:07:58It...was made to...

0:07:58 > 0:08:03take coal...from Stirling to Edinburgh.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05It is about 12 inches long.

0:08:05 > 0:08:06LAUGHTER

0:08:06 > 0:08:08Very small amounts.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11Quality coal. No, I've got to offer it over to the other side.

0:08:11 > 0:08:14- Why was it made?- I think it was made because it is a very early study

0:08:14 > 0:08:17- of steam locomotion.- Yes.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20- It predates any of the larger versions.- Yes.

0:08:20 > 0:08:25And I think it was the smallest that could get in motion at this stage.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28- It is very early.- None of you are really getting close to this.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30It was made as a demonstration model,

0:08:30 > 0:08:34to show the capabilities of steam power, to create locomotion.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37Because at this stage, most of the steam engines that were being

0:08:37 > 0:08:40made were being used as pumps, to simply pump out mines.

0:08:40 > 0:08:43So this is the very early stages of the idea of locomotion,

0:08:43 > 0:08:46before people thought of putting them on rails or anywhere.

0:08:46 > 0:08:48This is a man called Murdoch. Now, he...

0:08:48 > 0:08:53he worked with another Scottish engineer and steam pioneer.

0:08:53 > 0:08:55Who was that? BUZZER

0:08:55 > 0:08:57- James Watt. - James Watt. OK, well done.

0:08:57 > 0:09:01An energy-related specialist question goes to you.

0:09:01 > 0:09:05All right, have a look at this. It's a miner's banner.

0:09:05 > 0:09:09Familiar enough, from the 1980s miners' strike.

0:09:09 > 0:09:14But why was it never displayed at a picket line at its own colliery?

0:09:14 > 0:09:18Was there a mining accident before the strike

0:09:18 > 0:09:22and they felt it was in bad taste to put up a banner?

0:09:22 > 0:09:24I can't think of any other...

0:09:24 > 0:09:27I'll accept that as an answer, but it is a wrong answer.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30Is it because they didn't go on strike?

0:09:31 > 0:09:33No, it isn't actually, it's the opposite.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36The strike was so solid, they didn't need a picket line.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39- They didn't even need to picket. - Everybody was at it.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41It was one of the strongest collieries

0:09:41 > 0:09:44against the mine closures in the country.

0:09:44 > 0:09:47So, another buzzer, quick question, to gain the advantage.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49Fingers on the buzzers here.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53Who would have worn one of these?

0:09:54 > 0:09:56BUZZER

0:09:56 > 0:09:58- A beggar.- It was indeed a beggar.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00It was a beggar's badge for the town of Dysart.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02You were given this by the town council,

0:10:02 > 0:10:06and it was your licence to beg. You get the extra question.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10What might you have to beg for

0:10:10 > 0:10:12from the wearer of this cap,

0:10:12 > 0:10:17had you travelled from Dysart to Edinburgh

0:10:17 > 0:10:20in 1828?

0:10:20 > 0:10:25- A very significant date. - 1828. Dysart to Edinburgh.

0:10:26 > 0:10:30Well, it is a military style hat, but it's got a huge visor

0:10:30 > 0:10:34and it's got earflaps. So this suggests it's winter. Fuel, maybe.

0:10:34 > 0:10:37- Would it help you guys to have a look at it?- Yes, please.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40It's a deerskin cap.

0:10:40 > 0:10:42The date was 1828.

0:10:42 > 0:10:47- The streets were dark. And if this man came towards you wearing this cap.- Would you beg for a light?

0:10:47 > 0:10:50- Not for a light.- Gas, no? - Not for gas.

0:10:50 > 0:10:54I'm afraid I'm going to have to tell you. You'd have to beg for your life.

0:10:54 > 0:10:56This is William Burke's.

0:10:56 > 0:10:59- Oh, God!- Really?- Interesting.

0:10:59 > 0:11:01HE GASPS

0:11:01 > 0:11:03That does send a shiver.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05Hardeep, tell me about William Burke?

0:11:05 > 0:11:08Edinburgh being the Athens of the North, the city of the Enlightenment,

0:11:08 > 0:11:11where the most pronounced breakthroughs in western

0:11:11 > 0:11:14surgery took place, the requirement for raw materials,

0:11:14 > 0:11:16if you will, was very much prized.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18So Burke and Hare used to go up

0:11:18 > 0:11:23and find bodies to hand over to the medical specialists.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26And in the end, they couldn't find enough bodies,

0:11:26 > 0:11:29so they took to providing a few bodies of their own.

0:11:29 > 0:11:31And I imagine beggars numbered amongst them.

0:11:31 > 0:11:34I saw Lars do exactly what I did when you said whose hat it was.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36- You recoiled.- Yeah, absolutely.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39It's a really unpleasant object to be in the presence of.

0:11:39 > 0:11:42OK. Well, wait on. Wait on.

0:11:42 > 0:11:46Because this is indeed the deerskin cap worn by William Burke,

0:11:46 > 0:11:48the grave robber and murderer,

0:11:48 > 0:11:51who was indeed caught and executed.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53With his accomplice, William Hare,

0:11:53 > 0:11:57he committed at least 16 murders to provide bodies for anatomists.

0:11:57 > 0:12:00But the museum also possesses

0:12:00 > 0:12:02- a piece of Burke's skin...- Oh!

0:12:02 > 0:12:05..tanned and set in a frame.

0:12:05 > 0:12:10- Oh, God! - Should we have a look at it?- Yes.

0:12:10 > 0:12:11There it is.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13And as souvenirs go from Scotland,

0:12:13 > 0:12:16I think I prefer a tin of shortbread.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19We're moving on because Stirling is also at the centre of the world,

0:12:19 > 0:12:22so fingers on the buzzers.

0:12:22 > 0:12:26In 1904, a field was found at Raploch Farm,

0:12:26 > 0:12:31near this city, for this man to mount his show.

0:12:31 > 0:12:32Who is he?

0:12:32 > 0:12:34BUZZER

0:12:34 > 0:12:35Buffalo Bill.

0:12:35 > 0:12:37Ah!

0:12:37 > 0:12:42- Well done. It is indeed. - So quick today.- Buffalo Bill.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44So, it is your specialist question.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47During a royal visit in 1901,

0:12:47 > 0:12:52the Duke of York was presented with a feather from the huia bird.

0:12:52 > 0:12:57How did this presentation help precipitate the bird's demise?

0:12:57 > 0:12:59It was in a box like this.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02Presumably, if this was well-known that he had been presented with

0:13:02 > 0:13:04this feather, presumably everybody wanted to have one,

0:13:04 > 0:13:07and the poor old bird didn't have enough feathers to go around.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09Yes, that's exactly what happened.

0:13:09 > 0:13:13They presented the sacred feathers of this bird to the Prince of Wales,

0:13:13 > 0:13:14and everybody at home said,

0:13:14 > 0:13:17"Those are pretty feathers, I'll have them in a hat."

0:13:17 > 0:13:20So suddenly there was a real run on these

0:13:20 > 0:13:24feathers across New Zealand, and the poor bird became extinct.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27So, at the end of our first round, how are the scores looking?

0:13:27 > 0:13:31Well, Nina and Hardeep, you haven't made a score yet.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34You are at zero at the moment, but don't despair.

0:13:34 > 0:13:36Although, Lars and Helen, you have made 14.

0:13:36 > 0:13:40You've just got all the points going there, both of you. Good.

0:13:40 > 0:13:44OK, but everything could change. That's what it says.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46Everything could change with the next round,

0:13:46 > 0:13:49a question of attribution.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51Now, this is what happens. A mysterious object

0:13:51 > 0:13:53from the Stirling Smith collection

0:13:53 > 0:13:55is coming to the table for each team.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58They'll give two differing accounts of what the object is,

0:13:58 > 0:14:01and their opponents have to work out which of these is true.

0:14:01 > 0:14:05These have three points on offer for the best barefaced liars.

0:14:05 > 0:14:08So, can we bring in the object?

0:14:08 > 0:14:10Here we are.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14OK. So, Lars, you're first up to convince us.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17You're in full possession of the facts about this

0:14:17 > 0:14:20object in front of Nina and Hardeep.

0:14:20 > 0:14:25Well, if you'd been in the St Giles district of London

0:14:25 > 0:14:28and visiting their local Mothercare

0:14:28 > 0:14:30in the 17th or, for that matter,

0:14:30 > 0:14:34the 18th century, you would have found a stock of these.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37And they would be particularly useful

0:14:37 > 0:14:41if you were a wet nurse.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44Because, of course, as we all know, we get very sore nipples

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- when we suckle babies.- We do.- We do.

0:14:47 > 0:14:51This was a gizmo, a device to help women

0:14:51 > 0:14:53who were suffering from that particular complaint.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55And if you look in Hogarth's Gin Lane,

0:14:55 > 0:15:00you will see a wet nurse who's obviously lost her nipple guard.

0:15:00 > 0:15:02Lars, I can see you can go on about this for quite a long time

0:15:02 > 0:15:05and give us all sorts of reference points, but I have to leave it.

0:15:05 > 0:15:08So, Helen, do you have a different opinion of what this object might be?

0:15:08 > 0:15:09Yes, I do.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11This is in fact a boil purger.

0:15:11 > 0:15:14And if you imagine, in the 18th century,

0:15:14 > 0:15:19medical doctors were really beginning to take themselves very

0:15:19 > 0:15:21seriously, but their knowledge was not nearly as good

0:15:21 > 0:15:23as their equipment.

0:15:23 > 0:15:26So this was an integral part of their equipment.

0:15:26 > 0:15:30You would grease the outside, you would put it on the wound

0:15:30 > 0:15:33and then the assistant - not the medical practitioner himself -

0:15:33 > 0:15:36would suck the puss out through the little holes that you can

0:15:36 > 0:15:38see in the top.

0:15:38 > 0:15:40And by that means, you would determine

0:15:40 > 0:15:44- whether it was yellow bile, black bile or simple phlegm.- OK.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46It is either a sort of...

0:15:46 > 0:15:49heavy metal nipple guard,

0:15:49 > 0:15:53or a sort of boil sucker.

0:15:53 > 0:15:57I think Helen... There is something about the medical

0:15:57 > 0:15:59and the Enlightenment history of Scotland

0:15:59 > 0:16:01that makes me think this is...

0:16:01 > 0:16:05I also think that with the nipple guard explanation,

0:16:05 > 0:16:09I can't see how a newborn is going to particularly, easily get

0:16:09 > 0:16:14- a grip on this and make it work. - So you are choosing Helen's account?

0:16:14 > 0:16:19- Yes.- OK. So, Helen, can I ask you, is that really

0:16:19 > 0:16:21a boil sucking device?

0:16:21 > 0:16:23- It is not.- Oh!

0:16:23 > 0:16:25No!

0:16:25 > 0:16:28It is a solid pewter nipple protector.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32So it is your chance to bamboozle the opposition now.

0:16:32 > 0:16:37Nina, would you like to explain what the object is?

0:16:37 > 0:16:42This was originally in parts, in three separate parts.

0:16:42 > 0:16:45It's pewter, 18th century.

0:16:45 > 0:16:48And what would have originally happened is that you would

0:16:48 > 0:16:52put cigars into those holes.

0:16:52 > 0:16:53You know, in a gentleman's club,

0:16:53 > 0:16:57someone may wish to help themselves to a cigar or to be brought a cigar.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00It is a 18th-century cigar holder.

0:17:00 > 0:17:02OK. Thank you very much, Nina.

0:17:02 > 0:17:04And, Hardeep, you have a different opinion.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07This was originally, as Nina says, it was in three parts

0:17:07 > 0:17:09and the handle was added. But when you joined...

0:17:09 > 0:17:12This is particularly for the Bank of Scotland.

0:17:12 > 0:17:15When you joined as a junior manager at the Bank of Scotland,

0:17:15 > 0:17:16you were given one of these

0:17:16 > 0:17:20and you would have a gold sovereign for each year you served. And as you moved up...

0:17:20 > 0:17:22You'd be a junior, then you'd be middle manager,

0:17:22 > 0:17:23the two were joined together.

0:17:23 > 0:17:27And then when you became senior manager - you got a sovereign for each one.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30So it's six times six, you'd get six sovereigns in each.

0:17:30 > 0:17:32So you would have 36 sovereigns in each.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34The more senior you were in the bank,

0:17:34 > 0:17:37- the more money you would have to live on thereafter.- OK.

0:17:37 > 0:17:42So your choice, I think, is between a sort of metal

0:17:42 > 0:17:44cigar dispenser

0:17:44 > 0:17:46and a pewter piggy bank.

0:17:46 > 0:17:49I think Nina's thing is quite convincing.

0:17:49 > 0:17:53If you were keeping track of how many cigars you'd sold to table number two or three or four,

0:17:53 > 0:17:56you could simply count the number of cigars that weren't there.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00But sovereigns are too big to go into this hole.

0:18:00 > 0:18:02Unless it's a Scottish sovereign.

0:18:02 > 0:18:04We are known for our pecunious-ness. so, yes.

0:18:06 > 0:18:07Do you feel that... I think you know.

0:18:07 > 0:18:10I think you're right, because I was just wondering about the numbers.

0:18:10 > 0:18:13So, Helen, which are you going to choose, then?

0:18:13 > 0:18:15I think we're going to choose Nina.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18So, Nina, is it a cigar dispenser?

0:18:18 > 0:18:23Well, continuing our glorious run, they are of course right,

0:18:23 > 0:18:25and it is a cigar dispenser.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28- Well done. - SHE LAUGHS

0:18:28 > 0:18:31Right. Yes. It's a 19th-century cigar holder,

0:18:31 > 0:18:34which might have been used in a gentleman's club.

0:18:34 > 0:18:37So, after that dalliance with wilful deception,

0:18:37 > 0:18:40Lars and Helen now have 20 points,

0:18:40 > 0:18:42and Nina and Hardeep...

0:18:42 > 0:18:45are yet to score, but don't despair!

0:18:45 > 0:18:46HE LAUGHS

0:18:46 > 0:18:50Don't despair, Nina, because we will...we are now off.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53The time has come for me to take each team on a guided tour,

0:18:53 > 0:18:56and encounter some of the museum's key objects at close quarters.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58Lars and Helen - you're coming first.

0:19:01 > 0:19:05We're going to stop here in front of this magnificent portrait.

0:19:05 > 0:19:09What I'm looking for is a sort of join the dots.

0:19:09 > 0:19:13I want five dots to take me from this portrait,

0:19:13 > 0:19:19which I can tell you is by Joseph Denovan Adam,

0:19:19 > 0:19:23and this piece of tartan.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27Every time I give you a clue, you're going to lose a point.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29So, what do we see here? What is this?

0:19:29 > 0:19:31- Highland cattle.- Yeah.

0:19:31 > 0:19:33- Highland tartan.- Yes.

0:19:33 > 0:19:35- Highland tartan. That's good. - Start somewhere.

0:19:35 > 0:19:39- Yes, all right! That's a point. That sounds fair enough.- Great.

0:19:39 > 0:19:42But tell me what's happening with these cattle.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45- They're being driven by drovers. - Drovers.

0:19:45 > 0:19:47They're being driven by drovers.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49Good. So, you're going to get a point.

0:19:49 > 0:19:50That means I can show you this clue.

0:19:50 > 0:19:53I don't have to show you this clue, but I want to give you it,

0:19:53 > 0:19:54because I like it.

0:19:54 > 0:19:55What do you suppose that is?

0:19:57 > 0:20:00A hoof from the...

0:20:00 > 0:20:02- cattle.- Yes, it is, isn't it?

0:20:02 > 0:20:05And it's a badly worn cattle toenail

0:20:05 > 0:20:12that's now being protected by a steel or iron hoof or shoe, I guess.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15So, how does that relate to this?

0:20:15 > 0:20:16Let's get through droving first.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18Droving or driving cattle,

0:20:18 > 0:20:21or sheep or whatever it is, is to take them from the summer

0:20:21 > 0:20:24pastures to the winter pastures and then on to market.

0:20:24 > 0:20:26So, you go from Highland to Lowland.

0:20:26 > 0:20:27You're perfectly right,

0:20:27 > 0:20:30and cattle were driven from the far extremes of the Highlands,

0:20:30 > 0:20:36from as far away as Skye, to come to the Lowlands, to market to Falkirk,

0:20:36 > 0:20:40- and therefore, they passed...- Across Stirling Bridge?

0:20:40 > 0:20:41Across Stirling Bridge.

0:20:41 > 0:20:44But so, as they came through the Highlands...

0:20:46 > 0:20:47..who's this?

0:20:49 > 0:20:51Well, YOU don't recognise it.

0:20:51 > 0:20:54Do you want the clue as to that?

0:20:54 > 0:20:57- I...- OK, it's a McGregor tartan.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01I can see you're both staring at me blankly. I'm going to have to...

0:21:01 > 0:21:03- Are we into Braveheart territory? No, not Braveheart.- No.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06No, another film.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09- Liam Neeson running around. No? - You're going to have to...

0:21:09 > 0:21:11You're not... All right, I'm going to have to give you another clue.

0:21:11 > 0:21:14You're losing your points here.

0:21:14 > 0:21:17- Rob Roy MacGregor.- Oh...

0:21:17 > 0:21:19Have you heard of Rob Roy MacGregor?

0:21:19 > 0:21:23Yes, but I'm not a big Walter Scott fan or aficionado.

0:21:23 > 0:21:26Well, Rob Roy MacGregor lived in various places.

0:21:26 > 0:21:29These cattle came on their way,

0:21:29 > 0:21:33on the drover's roads down to the Lowlands,

0:21:33 > 0:21:37and Rob Roy himself extracted a tax from them

0:21:37 > 0:21:41in the form of black cattle, which was known as...

0:21:43 > 0:21:47- Um... Roy's tithe.- No. Black mail.

0:21:47 > 0:21:48- Black... Oh...- Black mail!

0:21:48 > 0:21:50Hence the origin of blackmail.

0:21:50 > 0:21:52Blackmail will never be the same now.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56It's quite a complicated story we're eking out here,

0:21:56 > 0:21:59and so I'm going to give you three points for that. Well done.

0:21:59 > 0:22:00- Very generous.- Thank you.

0:22:00 > 0:22:04And I think it's time for me to go and test the other team.

0:22:08 > 0:22:09I'm lost here.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13So, you understand the idea?

0:22:13 > 0:22:18I'm wanting you to make a connection between this work of art

0:22:18 > 0:22:20and this, I was going to say work of art,

0:22:20 > 0:22:22but let's just call it a portrait, over there.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24You have five steps to make.

0:22:24 > 0:22:28I have five clues I can give you, but if I start to give you clues,

0:22:28 > 0:22:29- you start to lose points.- OK.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31So, let's start with this.

0:22:31 > 0:22:34- Well, I know who that is.- OK, well, tell me who it is.- Blind Harry.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36- Yes, who's Blind Harry?- The poet.

0:22:36 > 0:22:38So, Hardeep, do you know?

0:22:38 > 0:22:42- Because Nina obviously does. Do you know who Blind Harry was?- No. - Or Henry...

0:22:42 > 0:22:46- He wrote 12 volumes of poetry.- In the 15th century.- In the 15th century.

0:22:46 > 0:22:48I'm going to give you a point.

0:22:48 > 0:22:55It's the best extant example of Medieval Scots.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58- How is your Medieval Scots?- I studied Scottish literature at university.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01- Yes.- I still sometimes speak Medieval Scot,

0:23:01 > 0:23:03but I need to have quite a wee bit of whiskey to do it!

0:23:03 > 0:23:04THEY LAUGH

0:23:04 > 0:23:10So, who, Hardeep, did he write his poetry about?

0:23:11 > 0:23:15- I think... Can I have a stab?- Yes. - Is it Robert the Bruce?

0:23:15 > 0:23:19- Not Robert the Bruce.- Is it William Wallace?- It'd be William Wallace, then, wouldn't it?

0:23:19 > 0:23:21- I'm going to give you a point for William Wallace.- Well done.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24So, what is the connection between William Wallace and Stirling?

0:23:24 > 0:23:30William Wallace was triumphant at the Battle of Stirling Bridge,

0:23:30 > 0:23:33on 11 September 1297.

0:23:33 > 0:23:36Wow. OK, very good. So, can you...

0:23:36 > 0:23:39Well, we've all seen the film, I hope.

0:23:39 > 0:23:41They based the film of Braveheart

0:23:41 > 0:23:45largely on the poem that Harry wrote.

0:23:45 > 0:23:46Hardeep, what happens in the film,

0:23:46 > 0:23:49and what happens in the actual battle, effectively?

0:23:49 > 0:23:53The English were routed, and it was a successful uprising.

0:23:53 > 0:23:55Then of course, he was captured.

0:23:55 > 0:23:57But actually, what Wallace did...

0:23:57 > 0:24:02Many argue without Wallace, there'd be no Bruce in terms of...

0:24:02 > 0:24:05coagulating, if you like, the Scottish sense of themselves.

0:24:05 > 0:24:08You're completely right about the idea of Scottish independence.

0:24:08 > 0:24:13The idea of Scotland was preserved by Wallace as a sense.

0:24:13 > 0:24:14But who is this?

0:24:15 > 0:24:18- Can I give you a clue?- Yes.

0:24:18 > 0:24:21Here in Scotland, very popular, is a type of biscuit,

0:24:21 > 0:24:25made of wheat and raisins.

0:24:25 > 0:24:27Garibaldi.

0:24:27 > 0:24:29JANINA LAUGHS

0:24:29 > 0:24:32- Yes!- Is it?- Yes! Garibaldi!

0:24:32 > 0:24:37- So, who is this?- This is...Gari...- Garibaldi.- Garibaldi!

0:24:37 > 0:24:39Garibaldi! JANINA LAUGHS

0:24:39 > 0:24:41OK...good.

0:24:41 > 0:24:43So, we're getting closer. HE LAUGHS

0:24:43 > 0:24:46- Well, it's the freedom-fighting thing, isn't it? No? Am I...?- Yes.

0:24:46 > 0:24:49- They wouldn't... - You're certainly on the right track.

0:24:49 > 0:24:52Between Scotland and South America, weren't there?

0:24:52 > 0:24:54- Not South America, Italy.- Sorry...

0:24:54 > 0:24:57Garibaldi's in Italy, leading the unification.

0:24:57 > 0:25:00So, it's freedom fighters

0:25:00 > 0:25:03and the idea that people who were thinking in the 19th century

0:25:03 > 0:25:08about Scottish identity, and that becoming a national issue,

0:25:08 > 0:25:11saw in Garibaldi, saw him as a hero,

0:25:11 > 0:25:16and they called him the...of Italy.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19- The...- The Wallace.- The Wallace!

0:25:19 > 0:25:21But, I mean, you'd be a bit cheesed off if you unified a country,

0:25:21 > 0:25:24and all they did was name a biscuit after you, do you know what I mean?

0:25:24 > 0:25:29So, well done. I'm going to give you...four points.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31We'd better go back and see what that does to our totals.

0:25:35 > 0:25:42At the end of that round, as you remember, you two scored three,

0:25:42 > 0:25:44but you've broken your duck,

0:25:44 > 0:25:47because these two scored four, so...

0:25:47 > 0:25:50- We have points!- So, we have points.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53Lars and Helen, you're now with 23,

0:25:53 > 0:25:55and Nina and Hardeep are bringing up the rear,

0:25:55 > 0:25:58and coming up to catch you up with...four.

0:25:58 > 0:26:00We enter our final quickfire round.

0:26:00 > 0:26:03There's one point for a correct answer, but if nobody gets it, we move swiftly on.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06Fingers on buzzers, then, for your first question.

0:26:06 > 0:26:09This roof boss from Stirling Castle appears to be an early

0:26:09 > 0:26:13- satire of Margaret Thatcher, but who was it meant to be?- Apollo.

0:26:13 > 0:26:15Apollo, well done, Nina. That's a point.

0:26:15 > 0:26:17This is a kapkap from the Solomon Islands.

0:26:17 > 0:26:20Whereabouts on the body would you wear it?

0:26:20 > 0:26:22- On your chest.- Not on your chest.

0:26:22 > 0:26:24- I'll offer it over to you.- Head.

0:26:24 > 0:26:26On your head, on your forehead.

0:26:26 > 0:26:27You get a point there.

0:26:27 > 0:26:28Look at this.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30Can you tell me who it is?

0:26:30 > 0:26:32- It's... - SCOTTISH ACCENT:- Sir Walter Scott.

0:26:32 > 0:26:34It is Sir Walter Scott.

0:26:34 > 0:26:37This wooden beaver hung outside a Stirling shop.

0:26:37 > 0:26:39What did the shop sell?

0:26:39 > 0:26:41- Furs.- Furs? No.

0:26:41 > 0:26:43I'm offering it over to you.

0:26:43 > 0:26:45Ha...hats?

0:26:45 > 0:26:47Hats? Yes, I'll give you a point for that.

0:26:47 > 0:26:51Who is this figure intended to represent?

0:26:51 > 0:26:52Justice.

0:26:52 > 0:26:53Justice, Nina, you're quite right.

0:26:53 > 0:26:57This is the mother of two Scottish sports stars. Who is she?

0:26:57 > 0:26:58- Judy Murray.- Well done, Nina.

0:26:58 > 0:26:59You get a point there.

0:26:59 > 0:27:03Who would have worn this costume?

0:27:03 > 0:27:05A tiger hunter.

0:27:05 > 0:27:07Not a tiger hunter, no.

0:27:09 > 0:27:11Hardeep, Nina, it's with you.

0:27:11 > 0:27:12- Quickly?- A dragoon.

0:27:12 > 0:27:14Not a dragoon, no.

0:27:14 > 0:27:16It was Chinese soldiers in the Second Opium War.

0:27:16 > 0:27:20Which partnership's works is commemorated in these gates?

0:27:21 > 0:27:24I would say Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire.

0:27:24 > 0:27:26No, not Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. JANINA LAUGHS

0:27:26 > 0:27:27Gilbert and Sullivan.

0:27:27 > 0:27:29Lars, you get a point there.

0:27:29 > 0:27:32Which regiment do these soldiers belong to?

0:27:34 > 0:27:37- Scots Highlanders. - Not Scots Highlanders, no.

0:27:37 > 0:27:38- Black Watch.- The Black Watch.

0:27:38 > 0:27:40Well done, Lars. Yes. It's the Black Watch tartan.

0:27:40 > 0:27:42BELL RINGS OK, well, there we are.

0:27:42 > 0:27:46That's the most recent Battle of Stirling coming to an end there,

0:27:46 > 0:27:48and I'm just adding up the scores,

0:27:48 > 0:27:52because I can conclude that our winners today...

0:27:56 > 0:27:58are Lars and Helen.

0:27:58 > 0:28:01You've got 27, but you came back a bit in that last round,

0:28:01 > 0:28:03and you got 8 points. Well done.

0:28:03 > 0:28:06Thank you to all our contestants.

0:28:06 > 0:28:08Thank you to the Stirling Smith Museum.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10What a terrific city miscellany this is.

0:28:10 > 0:28:14Everything from blue whale bones to Buffalo Bill.

0:28:14 > 0:28:17All Stirling, all Scotland and all of us

0:28:17 > 0:28:20have been contained in this little museum.

0:28:20 > 0:28:24Everybody's done what I can't resist describing as sterling work.

0:28:24 > 0:28:27No...I should have resisted that, shouldn't I?

0:28:27 > 0:28:28Good night.