Episode 2

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05What a show tonight. Look at this. National treasure - Barbara Windsor.

0:00:05 > 0:00:07Gastronomic trailblazer - Heston Blumenthal.

0:00:07 > 0:00:11And how harmonious can they get? The Overtones. Let's do it.

0:00:14 > 0:00:16CHEERING

0:00:16 > 0:00:18Thank you very much. Hello.

0:00:18 > 0:00:22This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24Welcome. Thank you.

0:00:26 > 0:00:27There's a man here.

0:00:27 > 0:00:31- Over there. Grey sweatshirt. What does that say?- I'm with Boomer.

0:00:31 > 0:00:35- I'm with Boomer?- Yes. - Well, good for you.

0:00:35 > 0:00:38What is... It's a dog? Boomer is a dog?

0:00:38 > 0:00:41Boomer is the Port Vale mascot in Stoke-on-Trent there,

0:00:41 > 0:00:43and we go on to the pitch and entertain people at weekends

0:00:43 > 0:00:46at all the football matches, charity do's, anything like that.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49Sir, if you could just come out of your shell

0:00:49 > 0:00:50and find some confidence(!)

0:00:52 > 0:00:56All right. So, Boomer is a mascot...

0:00:56 > 0:00:58- Yeah.- ..for Port Vale?

0:00:58 > 0:01:00So, this chap joining in is with you, I hope.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04This is Boomer the dog. He dresses up on a Saturday.

0:01:04 > 0:01:07Oh, I see, sorry. So, you... What's your name, sir?

0:01:07 > 0:01:09I'm Boomer's dad, Gavin's dad.

0:01:09 > 0:01:13- You're his dad. And he is Boomer when he is the mascot?- Yes.

0:01:13 > 0:01:16So Gavin dresses up on a Saturday as a mascot at Port Vale?

0:01:16 > 0:01:17- Don't we all?- No.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21How long have you done this, Gav?

0:01:21 > 0:01:26- I've done it for about 17 years, now.- Fantastic.- A long time.- Yeah.

0:01:26 > 0:01:31What does Boomer do? Cos, I'll be honest, I'm not a massive fan of the mascots.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35Sometimes I wonder, I don't know if anybody else does,

0:01:35 > 0:01:36what's the bloody point?

0:01:36 > 0:01:38So, what does Boomer do?

0:01:38 > 0:01:42Well, he goes out onto the pitch, goes to the away fans,

0:01:42 > 0:01:46gives them a lot of gyp and cocks his leg up on the goalpost.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53And you've been... And you've been doing this for 17 years?

0:01:53 > 0:01:54Yes.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56What does your wife think of it?

0:01:56 > 0:01:58I'm not married.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01What a surprise.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04All right, speaking of animals, there is a gentleman...

0:02:04 > 0:02:07- Bring the lights up over here. What is your name, sir?- It's Pete.

0:02:07 > 0:02:09I do know something about you.

0:02:09 > 0:02:14- You have a spidery connection, don't you?- I do.- Yes.

0:02:14 > 0:02:17- I'm the chairman of the British Tarantula Society.- Wow.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19So, you collect spiders? You have spiders?

0:02:19 > 0:02:24- I certainly do, yes. - How many?- About 80, or so.

0:02:24 > 0:02:28And there is the equivalent, there is Crufts for spiders, is that right?

0:02:28 > 0:02:30You're absolutely right, yes.

0:02:30 > 0:02:32What an incredible thought.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36So, are you trotting alongside?

0:02:36 > 0:02:38Is there a spider on a lead who is going...

0:02:39 > 0:02:41..desperately trying to keep up?

0:02:41 > 0:02:43Not quite.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46People from, not just all over the country, all over Europe,

0:02:46 > 0:02:49from the Far East, some people come from America

0:02:49 > 0:02:53and they bring their best, nicest tarantulas for us to decide

0:02:53 > 0:02:56which ones are the best in certain categories and then best in show.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58Is that your lovely wife?

0:02:58 > 0:02:59It is indeed.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02You weren't into this until you'd met your husband?

0:03:02 > 0:03:04I was arachnophobic.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06- You're not serious?- I was.

0:03:06 > 0:03:09Arachnophobic. If there is anyone here, you know, who's a bit thick,

0:03:09 > 0:03:11that's people who are terrified of spiders.

0:03:11 > 0:03:17Tell us about your honeymoon cos that was a bit special.

0:03:17 > 0:03:18Not in great detail, just...

0:03:18 > 0:03:20LAUGHTER

0:03:20 > 0:03:23..the spider aspect of the honeymoon.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27We went on honeymoon to the jungles of Borneo

0:03:27 > 0:03:29to look for tarantulas and snakes.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31Did you find any?

0:03:31 > 0:03:33We were out for about three hours looking for them

0:03:33 > 0:03:37and we found absolutely nothing, in terms of tarantulas.

0:03:37 > 0:03:40We got back to our lodge, a little bit dejected.

0:03:40 > 0:03:43Oh, I can see where this is going, can't you?

0:03:43 > 0:03:46- Connie disappears into the shower. - Oh, God.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49Just as I walk into the room, there's a nice, big tarantula sitting on the floor.

0:03:49 > 0:03:51- No!- Bonus.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56I knew you were pleased to see it, but not that happy.

0:03:58 > 0:03:59Sorry, bonus, sorry.

0:04:01 > 0:04:05Lovely to have you here. Thank you very much. Give them a round of applause.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07Now then, in just a moment

0:04:07 > 0:04:10we will be welcoming Heston Blumenthal and The Overtones,

0:04:10 > 0:04:14but, first of all, I am delighted to have here

0:04:14 > 0:04:17one of the most beloved actresses Britain has ever known.

0:04:17 > 0:04:19Ladies and gentlemen, Barbara Windsor.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21CHEERING

0:04:30 > 0:04:31Hello.

0:04:31 > 0:04:33Have a seat.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34Barbara Windsor.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41Oh, I like that.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43What a lovely welcome.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46The public are fantastic, you know? It really, really is.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50I've been talking backstage, because they keep coming up and saying, "Do you want to sit down?"

0:04:50 > 0:04:53I said, "No. I'm in my costume."

0:04:53 > 0:04:58Because, I come from an era where they were really tough, really tough.

0:04:58 > 0:05:02And the one thing they did say when I was 13 and went into the business...

0:05:02 > 0:05:05- I'm going back, this was the war years.- Which war was this?

0:05:05 > 0:05:06Oh, don't...

0:05:08 > 0:05:11I couldn't resist, Barbara, I'm sorry. I couldn't resist.

0:05:11 > 0:05:16Of course, of course not. World War II.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19And we were all lined up, us little girls and they said,

0:05:19 > 0:05:23"Now, if you've decided to come into this business, remember,

0:05:23 > 0:05:28"when you set foot outside the door you are Barbara Windsor

0:05:28 > 0:05:31"and the public are your audience

0:05:31 > 0:05:34"and if they want to talk to you, they want your autograph,

0:05:34 > 0:05:37"you never say, 'No.' You've always got a smile on your face."

0:05:37 > 0:05:39And I've kept with that, you see.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41But the business has changed in that way, hasn't it?

0:05:41 > 0:05:46- Oh, God, yes.- That attitude of once you're out the front door... That's a lovely story. ..you're on show.

0:05:46 > 0:05:51I mean, June Brown, lovely Dot Cotton, always says I should give a masterclass in how to behave.

0:05:51 > 0:05:55- Punctuality's important to you, isn't it?- Are you joking? I was here so early.

0:05:55 > 0:05:58She was here yesterday morning.

0:05:58 > 0:05:59Yeah, early, got to be early.

0:05:59 > 0:06:04If you were late once, you got a ticking off. The second time you got a fine and the third time, out.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07So, how do you find then, when you work on something like EastEnders,

0:06:07 > 0:06:10high turnover of actors, a lot of young actors and actresses?

0:06:10 > 0:06:11- Very difficult.- Really?

0:06:11 > 0:06:14- Yes.- Because the discipline isn't there?- No, it isn't there any more.

0:06:14 > 0:06:18But it's not their fault, darling. It starts at the top, doesn't it?

0:06:18 > 0:06:20It isn't their fault.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22If they are not taught it and they are not told,

0:06:22 > 0:06:26and also, a lot of them haven't had to work their way up.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29It comes a lot easier, that stardom, doesn't it, to what it used to?

0:06:29 > 0:06:31When you were in EastEnders,

0:06:31 > 0:06:34would you take on the matriarchal role?

0:06:34 > 0:06:35- Yes. - Would you ever tell somebody off?

0:06:35 > 0:06:38- Yes.- Really? Who did you tell off?

0:06:38 > 0:06:40LAUGHTER

0:06:40 > 0:06:42It's only me and them, don't worry.

0:06:42 > 0:06:46Anybody who was late or anybody who was talking on the set.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48And telephones! Ugh!

0:06:48 > 0:06:51- It's a generational thing, isn't it? - It is a generation thing.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54Was the first stuff your work with Joan Littlewood?

0:06:54 > 0:06:56I'd been in the business quite some time before...when I met Joan.

0:06:56 > 0:06:58- Oh, OK.- Yeah, yeah.

0:06:58 > 0:07:02I did several West End shows and I sang with the Ronnie Scott Band.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04And lots of bits and pieces

0:07:04 > 0:07:06and then Joan Littlewood came along into my life.

0:07:06 > 0:07:11For people who don't know, Joan Littlewood was very experimental.

0:07:11 > 0:07:12Experimental, yes.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14She used improvisation in her work?

0:07:14 > 0:07:16A lot of improvisation. Well, I wasn't used to that.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19What happened with Joan is I suddenly got this call

0:07:19 > 0:07:24to go to the Wyndham's Theatre to meet this Joan Littlewood

0:07:24 > 0:07:27who I was told was the hot, new director.

0:07:27 > 0:07:30They said, "You've come for the part of Rosie?" I said, "Yes."

0:07:30 > 0:07:33"She's an Irish prostitute."

0:07:33 > 0:07:36And I said, "I don't want to play Irish, I'm not very good at Irish."

0:07:36 > 0:07:37So, she said, "Well, what about...

0:07:37 > 0:07:40"You work in the West End, you must see prostitutes.

0:07:40 > 0:07:44"Walk up and down and show me what the prostitutes are doing." You see?

0:07:44 > 0:07:48I don't know why, I didn't care, I didn't want to...

0:07:48 > 0:07:50so I walked up and down saying,

0:07:50 > 0:07:53"Yeah, all right then."

0:07:53 > 0:07:54I says, "Short time, mister?

0:07:54 > 0:07:56"Five bob a wank."

0:07:56 > 0:07:59LAUGHTER

0:07:59 > 0:08:01"Ten bob a plate."

0:08:01 > 0:08:05That's not what... Those days, a plate was...

0:08:05 > 0:08:08- What do you call it now? - I've no idea.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER

0:08:10 > 0:08:11What do you mean?

0:08:11 > 0:08:13When you go down.

0:08:15 > 0:08:16What? Go on.

0:08:16 > 0:08:19Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I'm getting old.

0:08:19 > 0:08:20Christ almighty.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22Well, a blow job.

0:08:22 > 0:08:25APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER

0:08:25 > 0:08:28That's old age talking.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32That's when it was called a wank, wasn't it?

0:08:32 > 0:08:34- A plate.- A plate! A plate and a wank.

0:08:34 > 0:08:36It's important to get these terms right.

0:08:36 > 0:08:43So, anyway, I walked up and down saying this and I got all this laughter, like the audience tonight,

0:08:43 > 0:08:45then, suddenly, she said, "Can you sing?"

0:08:45 > 0:08:48I said, "Oh, yes. I've been in West End musicals, you know?

0:08:48 > 0:08:50"I've sang with Ronnie Scott." So she said, "All right, sing."

0:08:50 > 0:08:54I went over to the pianist and there was no pianist, there was a piano but no pianist.

0:08:54 > 0:08:59I said, "Where's the pianist?" She said, "If you're such a bloody fucking good singer..." Sorry.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02He knows Joan. You knew of Joan's reputation.

0:09:02 > 0:09:05Every other word was F and C-U-whatshername

0:09:05 > 0:09:07but I can't say that, you know, I won't.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09You've said everything else, to be fair.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12To cut a long story short, we didn't get on well,

0:09:12 > 0:09:14we had a terrible row and she told me to F off back to the West End.

0:09:14 > 0:09:18You're more of an all-rounder than, I think, today's audience realises.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22No, they think, and I'm very proud... Two great British institutions,

0:09:22 > 0:09:23Carry On and EastEnders.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26I knew nothing about your friendship with Amy Winehouse.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29- Oh, yes.- Tell me about that.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32Well, she was very friendly, the whole family,

0:09:32 > 0:09:35the Winehouse family are all friendly with my husband's family.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37When she used to go into hospital,

0:09:37 > 0:09:42the back of it comes out to my mews and that's where I live, you see?

0:09:42 > 0:09:44So, she used to come in and used to chitchat.

0:09:44 > 0:09:49Then we wouldn't see her for a few months then she'd come back again and all the rest of it.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53But the great thing was, she always used to read...

0:09:53 > 0:09:56There was always an EastEnders script there, you see and, of course, she loved it.

0:09:56 > 0:10:00She'd say, "Oh, look..." But she always wanted to play Peggy

0:10:00 > 0:10:04and I'll never forget, we got the scenes in where Pam and I,

0:10:04 > 0:10:08Pat, who played Pat, were having one of our, "Yeah, and you..."

0:10:08 > 0:10:12And all the rest of it, and we did that, we used to do that.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15- With Amy Winehouse playing Peggy? - She always wanted to play Peggy. - And you playing Pat?

0:10:15 > 0:10:17And I had to play Pat.

0:10:17 > 0:10:21Great sense of humour, very funny and a wonderful talent.

0:10:21 > 0:10:23I mean, the most amazing talent.

0:10:27 > 0:10:31Do you, Barbara Windsor, do you like to cook?

0:10:31 > 0:10:32No, I can't cook at all.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34Well, you needn't worry

0:10:34 > 0:10:37because my next guest will solve all those problems.

0:10:37 > 0:10:41He is superb. He's one of Britain's greatest chefs who seems to go from strength to strength.

0:10:41 > 0:10:44Please give a big welcome to Heston Blumenthal.

0:10:53 > 0:10:55CHEERING

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Good to see you.

0:10:58 > 0:11:00Lovely to see you, darling.

0:11:01 > 0:11:06I want to talk to you about where I think you overlap with Barbara,

0:11:06 > 0:11:08which is your work ethic, cos your story is fascinating.

0:11:08 > 0:11:12Cos you had no formal training as a chef, did you?

0:11:12 > 0:11:16No, my first paid job as a chef was opening the Duck in '95.

0:11:16 > 0:11:19Cos when people think of you, they think, "Fat Duck."

0:11:19 > 0:11:21LAUGHTER

0:11:21 > 0:11:22No, not like that.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27That's the restaurant with the famously,

0:11:27 > 0:11:30I mean, incredibly creative dishes, yeah?

0:11:30 > 0:11:33Yeah, that, when it started, it was 1995,

0:11:33 > 0:11:36myself and a pot-washer, two people front of house.

0:11:36 > 0:11:41My ambition was to open, it was an old converted pub, a bistro.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44Steak and chips, that sort of thing,

0:11:44 > 0:11:48done really well and maybe one day in my life, I get a Michelin star. That was it.

0:11:48 > 0:11:50Was it hard? Was it an instant hit?

0:11:50 > 0:11:55I was working, for the first six years, I probably worked 120 hours a week.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58- For the first six years? - Six years, yes.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00That should be inspiring to people.

0:12:00 > 0:12:03When people see someone like Heston on the television,

0:12:03 > 0:12:06who is a massive success, I don't think people think,

0:12:06 > 0:12:10it's like you were saying, about people coming through in EastEnders like, "Ba-doom."

0:12:10 > 0:12:12Yes, it is, yeah.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14That's a slog that would have defeated a lot of people.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18It was so hard, I mean, I nearly went bankrupt in 2004. So that's nine years after that.

0:12:18 > 0:12:22To all intents and purposes, you've got great ratings in all the guides but I was...

0:12:22 > 0:12:25I've never been driven by money. I just wanted to cook.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27And that drive...

0:12:27 > 0:12:28The first few months,

0:12:28 > 0:12:32I'd reached levels of exhaustion that I never knew possible.

0:12:32 > 0:12:36I did things like, I remember filleting a side of cod one afternoon.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39I'd just done like this...

0:12:39 > 0:12:42And I'd fallen asleep while I was filleting this fish.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45And then, I needed to light the blowtorch to glaze a lemon tart

0:12:45 > 0:12:49and I'd probably had, I think I'd gone two days almost without sleep.

0:12:51 > 0:12:56And I got the blowtorch, I turned the gas on, so it's, "Shhh..."

0:12:56 > 0:12:59And then, I thought, I went over to the tap...

0:13:00 > 0:13:02..and I turned on the hot tap.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06In my head, I thought,

0:13:06 > 0:13:08"You can't possibly light a blowtorch with cold water."

0:13:08 > 0:13:12LAUGHTER

0:13:12 > 0:13:13We've got a fair bit in common

0:13:13 > 0:13:16because you've worked really hard at your cooking for years and years

0:13:16 > 0:13:20and I, earlier this year, I went on a one-day barbecuing course.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- Did you?- Yes, I did.

0:13:22 > 0:13:26And, I'll tell you, there's nothing I don't know about barbecuing.

0:13:26 > 0:13:30Now, what, Heston Blumenthal, what is the secret of good barbecuing?

0:13:30 > 0:13:32There's a few things...

0:13:32 > 0:13:34No, no, no. There is one thing.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37LAUGHTER DROWNS OUT SPEECH

0:13:37 > 0:13:39What's the secret of good barbecuing?

0:13:39 > 0:13:41Firstly, you have...

0:13:41 > 0:13:44Firstly, notice that?

0:13:44 > 0:13:47Most people are impatient.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50They don't allow the coals to burn down enough.

0:13:50 > 0:13:54Well, if we are going to waste time, all right, buy a barbecue.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57I mean, how far back do you want to go?

0:13:57 > 0:14:01I'm assuming a level of competence, Heston. We have lit the damn thing.

0:14:01 > 0:14:05We are cooking. What's the most important thing about barbecuing?

0:14:05 > 0:14:09Oh, gosh. Ain't he a bugger, ain't he?

0:14:09 > 0:14:12Do you know what? Do you know what?

0:14:12 > 0:14:15A minute ago, she was delighted to be on the show.

0:14:15 > 0:14:19- I'm like that. - I can't wait to hear this.

0:14:19 > 0:14:21Well you're going to say first.

0:14:21 > 0:14:25What's the secret of good barbecuing?

0:14:25 > 0:14:27Well, don't burn the food and just cook it nicely.

0:14:27 > 0:14:31You're wasting my time.

0:14:31 > 0:14:33It's keeping the lid down.

0:14:33 > 0:14:34LAUGHTER

0:14:34 > 0:14:36Shut your face.

0:14:36 > 0:14:40- No, you are absolutely right. - She is not right.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43- Yes, she is.- No, she is not. - Yes, she is.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45You have to keep the lid down.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47And people don't do that

0:14:47 > 0:14:50because they see the traditional image of barbecuing,

0:14:50 > 0:14:55some bloke like you, he's at the barbecue, he's turning things, that's not the way.

0:14:55 > 0:14:57- That's how I would do it. - Well, stop.

0:14:57 > 0:15:01The lid, if you keep the lid on, Heston... Why won't you listen?

0:15:01 > 0:15:04If you keep the lid on... And here's another thing,

0:15:04 > 0:15:07don't lift the lid up. Don't keep checking every two minutes

0:15:07 > 0:15:10cos every time you lift up that lid, how much cooking time do you lose?

0:15:10 > 0:15:12I'll tell you - ten minutes.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15LAUGHTER

0:15:16 > 0:15:19And do you know, Barbara? Do you know, Barbara? I'll ignore him.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21You know, Barbara...

0:15:21 > 0:15:24Ten minutes? If you have a piece of fish that thick

0:15:24 > 0:15:26or you have a joint of beef this big

0:15:26 > 0:15:28and you lift the lid off, you don't...

0:15:28 > 0:15:32Ten minutes cooking time on a piece of fish that big... It doesn't...

0:15:32 > 0:15:34I think you'll find you do, actually, Heston.

0:15:34 > 0:15:37- Have you been on a one-day barbecuing course?- No, I haven't. - OK...

0:15:37 > 0:15:40I want to know what barbecuing course you went on.

0:15:40 > 0:15:42Well, I can't say, it would be endorsing them.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44But their barbecues have lids.

0:15:44 > 0:15:47- That's true. That's true. - APPLAUSE

0:15:47 > 0:15:49Well done, well done.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55Now, look. You're known for outrageous dishes, putting things together,

0:15:55 > 0:15:58combinations we wouldn't expect. Here's a game we'll play.

0:15:58 > 0:16:00We're going to call it Meal Or No Meal.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02LAUGHTER

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- I am going to tell you, Barbara... - Yes, go on.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08..some outrageous-sounding dishes, right?

0:16:08 > 0:16:10And you have to say if it's a meal or no meal.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12If it's a genuine Heston dish

0:16:12 > 0:16:14- or some ridiculous thing we've concocted.- OK, fine.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16OK, and then Heston, cos he should know,

0:16:16 > 0:16:19he will tell us whether you're right.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21So, let's play Meal Or No Meal.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25Lick-able sausage wallpaper.

0:16:25 > 0:16:27al or no meal?

0:16:27 > 0:16:31Lick-able sausage wallpaper.

0:16:31 > 0:16:33- No meal.- No meal. You say, no meal.

0:16:33 > 0:16:37As any reasonable person would.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39I'm off.

0:16:39 > 0:16:41- LAUGHTER - Audience, what do you think?

0:16:41 > 0:16:43ALL: Meal.

0:16:43 > 0:16:45- Meal or no meal?- Meal.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47Wallpaper?

0:16:47 > 0:16:51It was for a TV show we did and it was the Willy Wonka thing

0:16:51 > 0:16:53- so we did lick-able wallpaper. - Oh, right.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55All right, so that was a real one. That was a real one.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57Here we go, number two.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01Calf brain custard.

0:17:01 > 0:17:02I'll say yes.

0:17:02 > 0:17:03You'll say yes!

0:17:03 > 0:17:05All right, audience, meal or no meal?

0:17:05 > 0:17:07INDISTICNT REPLY

0:17:07 > 0:17:10Could you elect a leader?

0:17:10 > 0:17:13Who says no?

0:17:13 > 0:17:14Who says yes?

0:17:14 > 0:17:15That's a yes.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18- Heston, meal or no meal? - Meal.- Yeah!

0:17:18 > 0:17:20APPLAUSE

0:17:20 > 0:17:24I'm going to move onto the next one because this one sounds lovely.

0:17:24 > 0:17:26Pig nipple scratching.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32Did we have those in The Vic? I don't know.

0:17:34 > 0:17:36Oh, he's so outrageous. I'm going to say yes.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38- You say yes.- I like that idea. - Audience?

0:17:38 > 0:17:39- ALL:- No.

0:17:39 > 0:17:42Barbara says yes. Audience says no. Heston?

0:17:42 > 0:17:43Yes.

0:17:43 > 0:17:46- Yes.- Did it get on the menu?

0:17:46 > 0:17:49It was old Roman recipes.

0:17:49 > 0:17:51The idea that Romans... If you ate body parts,

0:17:51 > 0:17:55it would somehow help your own body parts.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58They were a very strange lot, back in those days.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01Right, would both of you stay there, please?

0:18:01 > 0:18:04Because I would like you to meet my final guests,

0:18:04 > 0:18:06whose voices go together like fish and chips

0:18:06 > 0:18:09or, as you'd say, Heston, like halibut and fruitcake.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11The Overtones.

0:18:11 > 0:18:13CHEERING

0:18:16 > 0:18:18Hey, guys, welcome.

0:18:18 > 0:18:22Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. And welcome.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27The Overtones.

0:18:27 > 0:18:32Sit yourself down. Oh, it's like Noel's House Party here, some weeks.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35Now, wrong to call you a boy band?

0:18:35 > 0:18:36- A man band?- A man band.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39To be honest, girl band, people can call us what they want

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- as long as they hear our music. - Not girl band.- No?

0:18:42 > 0:18:44- Not girl band.- Not girl band.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46- What's that accent I'm picking up on?- Bristol.

0:18:46 > 0:18:50You're from Bristol. I don't think it deserves a round of applause.

0:18:52 > 0:18:56For those that haven't heard you before, doo-wop?

0:18:56 > 0:18:58Is that a good umbrella to put over, doo-wop?

0:18:58 > 0:19:02Yeah. We are a vocal harmony group.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05I guess we have a structure of the groups from the days of yesteryear

0:19:05 > 0:19:07from a deep bass to a high falsetto.

0:19:07 > 0:19:11It is early R&B so, there is lots of rhythm and blues and, you know...

0:19:11 > 0:19:15This is like a journey round the British Isles.

0:19:15 > 0:19:18We've got Australia. We've got Bristol. We got Ireland.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22- Now, what's going on here? - I'm the Northerner, from Manchester.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25All right, all right. Aye, all right.

0:19:25 > 0:19:27I'm scared to speak cos I know what's coming. I'm Essex.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30CHEERING

0:19:30 > 0:19:33You're going to go and sing for us in a second, OK.

0:19:33 > 0:19:37Before you do that, I thought it'd be sweet, as Barbara is the only lady with us tonight,

0:19:37 > 0:19:41if you would sing a little something to her.

0:19:41 > 0:19:42Wouldn't that be nice?

0:19:42 > 0:19:43Now you're talking.

0:19:43 > 0:19:47Heston, what I'd like for you is to kind of butt out of this, if you don't mind?

0:19:47 > 0:19:49LAUGHTER

0:19:49 > 0:19:52OK, guys, whenever you're ready. Barbara, this is from me to you.

0:19:54 > 0:20:00# Have I told you lately that I love you?

0:20:00 > 0:20:02# Love you, love you

0:20:02 > 0:20:06# Could I tell you once again somehow?

0:20:06 > 0:20:07# How-ow-ow-ow

0:20:07 > 0:20:12# Have I told with all my heart and soul

0:20:12 > 0:20:13# Soul

0:20:13 > 0:20:15- # How I adore you - Adore you

0:20:15 > 0:20:17- # Well, Barbara - Barbara

0:20:17 > 0:20:19# I'm telling you now... #

0:20:19 > 0:20:21SHE SCREAMS

0:20:21 > 0:20:27# My heart would break in two if I should lose you

0:20:27 > 0:20:29# I'm no good

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- # I'm no good - Without you anyhow

0:20:32 > 0:20:34# I'm no good without you

0:20:34 > 0:20:39# Have I told you lately that I love you? #

0:20:39 > 0:20:41This is not for you.

0:20:41 > 0:20:47# Well, Barbara I'm telling you now

0:20:47 > 0:20:49# Telling you now

0:20:49 > 0:20:53# Barbara, I'm telling you now

0:20:53 > 0:20:55# Telling you now. #

0:20:58 > 0:21:00APPLAUSE

0:21:02 > 0:21:06- That was fantastic. Thank you, guys. - Well done, that was lovely.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08Let's take some questions from the audience.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11Lois Adcock.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13Hello.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16Adcock could be one of your recipes, couldn't it?

0:21:18 > 0:21:20What do you mean, could?

0:21:20 > 0:21:23- Probably is, yes. Hello, Lois. - Hello.

0:21:23 > 0:21:26- Hello there. Who is your question for?- My question is for Barbara.

0:21:26 > 0:21:29Will you ever go back to EastEnders?

0:21:30 > 0:21:32I know you should never say never.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35I don't know at this point. I'm happy, you know, just going along.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37I love the show, I still watch it

0:21:37 > 0:21:40but I think they're doing quite well without me.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42- No, they're not.- Sadly.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45- Well, we'll see. You must never say never.- Oh, good.

0:21:45 > 0:21:47But, Lois, you'd like her back, would you?

0:21:47 > 0:21:50Yes, definitely, definitely, definitely.

0:21:50 > 0:21:52I'm a big Peggy Mitchell fan.

0:21:52 > 0:21:54Who else would like to see Barbara back in EastEnders?

0:21:54 > 0:21:56CHEERING

0:21:56 > 0:21:58Where is Pat Wilson?

0:21:58 > 0:22:00- Hello, Rob. - Hello, Pat, how are you?

0:22:00 > 0:22:02I'm fine, thank you.

0:22:02 > 0:22:05You're a jolly lady. The medication has kicked in.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10- Who's your question to? - It's a question for everyone.

0:22:12 > 0:22:14What would be your last meal?

0:22:14 > 0:22:19Oh, there's a cheery one(!) Right. We've all been condemned to death.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22We'll start with The Overtones.

0:22:22 > 0:22:26- It would be my grandmother's recipe for Irish stew.- Nice.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29- Mum's roast lamb.- Lovely. - Pie and mash.

0:22:29 > 0:22:33I make a good macaroni cheese, that's probably going to be...

0:22:33 > 0:22:36He doesn't. He makes a really crap macaroni cheese.

0:22:36 > 0:22:40- I'll go for steak and chips. - Well, you're in Essex, why not?

0:22:40 > 0:22:41Exactly.

0:22:41 > 0:22:43Your last meal, Heston?

0:22:43 > 0:22:44This will be a cop out answer

0:22:44 > 0:22:46because I think it depends what mood you're in.

0:22:46 > 0:22:48Sometimes...

0:22:48 > 0:22:51You're going to be pretty depressed, I'm guessing.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53LAUGHTER

0:22:53 > 0:22:58You're certainly not looking to a bright future.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01What sort of mood do you think you're going to be in?

0:23:01 > 0:23:03All right, all right. Prawn cocktail.

0:23:03 > 0:23:06- That's what you wanted, wasn't it? - Prawn cocktail?

0:23:06 > 0:23:07Barbara, your last meal?

0:23:07 > 0:23:10Yeah, I'm going to share my last meal with you

0:23:10 > 0:23:12and have pie and mash.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15APPLAUSE DROWNS OUT SPEECH

0:23:17 > 0:23:21- Karen Chamberlain.- Oh, that's me. - Oh, that's you. Well done.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23We can't fault you there, Karen. Well done.

0:23:23 > 0:23:27When it comes to knowing who you are, you get 100%.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30Now, Karen, who is your question for?

0:23:30 > 0:23:31- Barbara, please.- Yes, darling?

0:23:31 > 0:23:35- Hello, Barbara. I'm a huge fan of you and EastEnders.- Thank you.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38And it would be an absolute honour for you to tell me

0:23:38 > 0:23:40to, "Get out my pub!"

0:23:40 > 0:23:43- In a Peggy Mitchell style.- Can you do that?- Well, I haven't done it...

0:23:43 > 0:23:45- I'm out of practice but I'll have a go.- She'll have a go.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48CHEERING

0:23:48 > 0:23:50All right, this is exciting.

0:23:50 > 0:23:52Hello, darling.

0:23:52 > 0:23:55I think, if you stand about there.

0:23:55 > 0:23:56I'll stand here, shall I?

0:23:56 > 0:23:58Now then, Barbara, you may want to use this, perhaps?

0:23:58 > 0:24:01AUDIENCE: Oh!

0:24:01 > 0:24:04- Hiya.- Hello, Rob. - Are you all right?- I'm fine.

0:24:04 > 0:24:08- So, here's what we are going to do. It's not Barbara any more, it's Peggy.- Peggy.

0:24:08 > 0:24:10You've been up to no good.

0:24:10 > 0:24:15- OK? Right?- Right.- Right. I don't think that'll be a stretch.

0:24:15 > 0:24:20You see, that's it. You're nothing but trouble, you!

0:24:20 > 0:24:22Complete trouble. Coming in here,

0:24:22 > 0:24:24fancying all the geezers, getting your hands on them all.

0:24:24 > 0:24:28Well, I've had enough of you. So, I'll tell you what... Get out of my pub!

0:24:28 > 0:24:31APPLAUSE

0:24:31 > 0:24:33Go on!

0:24:34 > 0:24:38All right, we don't want any trouble. We don't want trouble.

0:24:43 > 0:24:44She was hot, anyway.

0:24:47 > 0:24:50Now, all I can say is, please don't press charges.

0:24:50 > 0:24:52LAUGHTER

0:24:52 > 0:24:54Give Karen a warm round of applause.

0:24:54 > 0:24:58- APPLAUSE - Thank you very much.

0:24:58 > 0:25:03She said, "No, it was lovely. I was so hot."

0:25:03 > 0:25:05Thank you for doing that. Now, The Overtones,

0:25:05 > 0:25:07you're going to sing for us so would you like to get ready?

0:25:07 > 0:25:09Oh, yeah, wow.

0:25:09 > 0:25:10APPLAUSE

0:25:10 > 0:25:13But, first of all, let's hear it again for my wonderful guests,

0:25:13 > 0:25:15Barbara Windsor and Heston Blumenthal.

0:25:15 > 0:25:18CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:25:18 > 0:25:22And now, performing Perfect from their new album Higher,

0:25:22 > 0:25:23The Overtones.

0:25:23 > 0:25:26CHEERING

0:25:27 > 0:25:33# I don't want half-hearted love affairs

0:25:33 > 0:25:39# I need someone who really, really cares

0:25:40 > 0:25:46# Life is too short to play silly games

0:25:47 > 0:25:52# I've promised myself I won't do that again

0:25:54 > 0:26:00# It's got to be perfect

0:26:00 > 0:26:07# It's got to be worth it, yeah

0:26:07 > 0:26:12# Too many people take second best

0:26:12 > 0:26:15# But I won't take anything less

0:26:15 > 0:26:21# It's got to be, yeah, perfect

0:26:21 > 0:26:26# Young hearts are foolish They make such mistakes

0:26:28 > 0:26:33# They're much too eager to give their love away

0:26:35 > 0:26:42# Well, I have been foolish too many times

0:26:42 > 0:26:47# Now I'm determined I'm going to get it right

0:26:47 > 0:26:48# I'm going to get it right

0:26:48 > 0:26:55# It's got to be perfect

0:26:55 > 0:27:02# It's got to be worth it, yeah

0:27:02 > 0:27:06# Too many people take second best

0:27:06 > 0:27:09# But I won't take anything less

0:27:09 > 0:27:17# It's got to be, yeah, perfect

0:27:24 > 0:27:29# Doo-ba-da-da, doo-ba-da-da Doo-ba-da-da, doo-ba-da-da, doo-way

0:27:29 > 0:27:31# Doo-way

0:27:31 > 0:27:33# Zoo-ba-doo-bip

0:27:33 > 0:27:37# Dip-da-bop Dee, ba-da, ba-doo, bay-ay

0:27:37 > 0:27:39# It's gotta, gotta be

0:27:39 > 0:27:43# It's gotta be It's gotta be perfect

0:27:43 > 0:27:48# Young hearts are foolish They make such mistakes

0:27:49 > 0:27:55# They're much too eager to give their love away

0:27:56 > 0:28:01# Well, I have been foolish too many times

0:28:03 > 0:28:09# Now I'm determined I'm going to get it right

0:28:09 > 0:28:11# I'm going to get it right

0:28:11 > 0:28:18# It's got to be perfect

0:28:18 > 0:28:25# It's got to be worth it, yeah

0:28:25 > 0:28:30# Too many people take second best

0:28:30 > 0:28:32# But I won't take anything less

0:28:32 > 0:28:40# It's got to be-ee-ee-ee perfect. #

0:28:46 > 0:28:48Fantastic.

0:28:48 > 0:28:49Thank you.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51Thank you, guys. Brilliant.

0:28:51 > 0:28:52Thank you, Rob.

0:28:52 > 0:28:55The Overtones!

0:28:55 > 0:28:58Good night. That was very good.

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