0:00:02 > 0:00:04- Telly.- That magic box in the corner.
0:00:04 > 0:00:07It gives us access to a million different worlds,
0:00:07 > 0:00:10all from the comfort of our sofa.
0:00:10 > 0:00:13'In this series I'm going to journey through the fantastic
0:00:13 > 0:00:17'world of TV with some of our favourite celebrities.
0:00:17 > 0:00:21'They've chosen the precious TV moments that shed light...'
0:00:21 > 0:00:22Love this!
0:00:22 > 0:00:23'She's beaten the panel.'
0:00:23 > 0:00:24Look at that!
0:00:24 > 0:00:26'..on the stories of their lives.'
0:00:26 > 0:00:29Go on, Champion! Go on, Champion.
0:00:29 > 0:00:30You're like, "Oh! Argh!"
0:00:30 > 0:00:32'Some are funny...'
0:00:32 > 0:00:34Oh, quite amazing, unbelievable!
0:00:34 > 0:00:36No, no, no!
0:00:36 > 0:00:39'..some are surprising.'
0:00:39 > 0:00:40Paddington Bear.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42'Some are inspiring...'
0:00:42 > 0:00:43That's what kids should be doing now.
0:00:43 > 0:00:46Lay a ten-pence piece on a table with a bit of sticky tape.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48Look at that! Stonking!
0:00:48 > 0:00:49'..and many...'
0:00:49 > 0:00:53- Some turtles capsize... - '..are deeply moving.'
0:00:53 > 0:00:57I knew that we were in the presence of history.
0:00:57 > 0:00:58I'm crying.
0:00:58 > 0:01:00I broke down in tears at that.
0:01:00 > 0:01:05'So come watch with us as we hand-pick the vintage telly that
0:01:05 > 0:01:09'helped turn our much-loved stars into the people they are today.'
0:01:09 > 0:01:12Welcome to The TV That Made Me.
0:01:20 > 0:01:23My guest today is Birmingham's golden boy.
0:01:23 > 0:01:28A radio and TV presenter as well as an award-winning writer and actor.
0:01:28 > 0:01:33Adil Ray is best known as the loudmouthed Citizen Khan.
0:01:33 > 0:01:35What?! Do you know who I am?
0:01:35 > 0:01:38Hello! Mr Khan!
0:01:38 > 0:01:43'The TV that made him includes a truly bonkers sitcom...'
0:01:43 > 0:01:45Give us an easy one, Bambi!
0:01:45 > 0:01:47'..a courtroom drama...'
0:01:47 > 0:01:49I've paid for what I've done.
0:01:49 > 0:01:51'..and a family that sticks together.'
0:01:51 > 0:01:52We thank thee, oh Lord...
0:01:52 > 0:01:54LAUGHTER
0:01:54 > 0:01:57It can only be the one and only Adil Ray.
0:01:57 > 0:01:59I think you should have been a pop star.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02- IN AMERICAN ACCENT:- Ladies and gentleman, presenting Adil Ray.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04- Yeah, who knows, there's still time. - Yeah, plenty of time.
0:02:04 > 0:02:07- Could still be a pop star. - Because you ARE very young.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09Well, exactly! Only 19, yeah.
0:02:09 > 0:02:11I'm saying nothing.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13So, today is a celebration,
0:02:13 > 0:02:16- a collection of TV shows that you have chosen.- I know, it's great.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20Shall we go back now to the early, early, early, early...
0:02:20 > 0:02:23Such a long time ago.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26This was what it was like growing up for the lovely Adil Ray.
0:02:27 > 0:02:32'Adil Ray was born in Birmingham on 29th of April, 1974.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34'The youngest of two boys,
0:02:34 > 0:02:37'he shared his home with his dad, Abdul, a bus driver,
0:02:37 > 0:02:41'and his mum, Nargus, who worked at the Immigration Appeals Department,
0:02:41 > 0:02:45'assisting the city's ever-growing immigrant community.'
0:02:45 > 0:02:48Let's talk about your house. What was it like?
0:02:48 > 0:02:51We lived in a semidetched in a place called Yardley in Birmingham.
0:02:51 > 0:02:53It was an interesting time for us
0:02:53 > 0:02:57because we were like the only Asian family living in this very white area, you know.
0:02:57 > 0:02:59It was tough at the beginning, I remember.
0:02:59 > 0:03:04I think when we left the house 20 years later, all the neighbours were in tears, you know.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07It was great because we were very close to our neighbours.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10I like that! They're your neighbours!
0:03:10 > 0:03:13We were very close to our neighbours, yes!
0:03:13 > 0:03:17Some TV gems hit our screens in 1984 when Adil was just ten,
0:03:17 > 0:03:19including Ever Decreasing Circles,
0:03:19 > 0:03:24with Richard Briers as neighbourhood busybody Martin Bryce.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27Fresh from Not The Nine O'Clock News,
0:03:27 > 0:03:31Mel Smith and Griff Rhys Jones launched their seminal sketch show,
0:03:31 > 0:03:32Alas Smith and Jones.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36And Fridays would never be the same again
0:03:36 > 0:03:40as the fandabidozi Crackerjack closed its doors for the last time.
0:03:42 > 0:03:47So what was your lounge? I'm thinking of the television room where you used to watch.
0:03:47 > 0:03:51Yes, I mean in our house everything was governed by the TV.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54All the chairs faced the TV.
0:03:54 > 0:03:597:00pm or 7:30pm in the evening, mum would get us our food and we would just...
0:03:59 > 0:04:02On our laps in front of the telly.
0:04:02 > 0:04:05And I remember my chair... For some reason, I got the short straw.
0:04:05 > 0:04:08Everyone else was that we facing and my chair was a little bit...
0:04:08 > 0:04:12But I was kind of a bit like this. So I was like that watching telly.
0:04:12 > 0:04:15This is good, isn't it? This is great! I love this!
0:04:20 > 0:04:24My mum and dad were mad for sitcoms on telly.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26They just absolutely loved it.
0:04:26 > 0:04:29I remember watching sitcoms with my family and going,
0:04:29 > 0:04:31"This is one of those few moments in this mad house,
0:04:31 > 0:04:33"at times, that we are,
0:04:33 > 0:04:36"that we sit down together and enjoy something together."
0:04:36 > 0:04:39Watching anything from Only Fools And Horses, Cheers,
0:04:39 > 0:04:43to even slightly mediocre sitcoms from Never The Twain with Windsor Davies.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45You know, great times.
0:04:45 > 0:04:51We have got a classic Ray family sitcom here. This is Bread.
0:04:54 > 0:04:56We thank Thee, oh Lord...
0:04:58 > 0:05:00..for leading us safely through the night
0:05:00 > 0:05:02and for the food we are about to bolt.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07It's great. It's brilliant. It's Carla Lane, isn't it? She is legendary.
0:05:07 > 0:05:12Tremendous actors. Fantastic. However, it depresses me a little bit.
0:05:14 > 0:05:18- Why?- Because it came on on a Sunday and what does that mean?
0:05:18 > 0:05:20- School.- School the next day.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23Do you know what I mean? It was like, I love this, but any minute now,
0:05:23 > 0:05:26Mum's going to be like, "Get to bed and you haven't done your homework."
0:05:26 > 0:05:30You know, sort of... So, it was a bit of a weird one, this.
0:05:30 > 0:05:32Loved it but reminded me of a Sunday.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35Carla Lane first created a family called Boswell
0:05:35 > 0:05:38for Series 5 of the Liver Birds in the '70s.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40A decade later,
0:05:40 > 0:05:44she reinvented them as the ever-resourceful Boswells in Bread,
0:05:44 > 0:05:49with Jean Boht heading up the crafty clan as Mum, Nellie.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51Left me some, have you?
0:05:51 > 0:05:53- Here she is!- Hey.
0:05:53 > 0:05:56HE DOES AN IMPRESSION OF AVELINE AND LAUGHS
0:05:56 > 0:05:59- What do you want a bikini for? - I'm modelling, aren't I?
0:05:59 > 0:06:01- Look at that. What she's wearing. - Brilliant.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04The costume department had loads of fun on this.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- All right, I'll miss me bus. - Have you seen her run for the bus?
0:06:06 > 0:06:09Her dress comes up around her chin and by the time she gets on the bus,
0:06:09 > 0:06:11she is all knickers and earrings.
0:06:12 > 0:06:15- I mean, every one was a character.- Well, that was it.
0:06:15 > 0:06:17- They could all have their own sitcom.- Exactly.
0:06:17 > 0:06:20That was the great thing about it, such strong characters.
0:06:20 > 0:06:21Great narrative as well.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25I think, if I'm right, most sitcoms at the time were self-contained,
0:06:25 > 0:06:28so you could watch an episode and you just followed one story
0:06:28 > 0:06:31and next week, you would start up again.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34Whereas this, I think it worked with cliff-hangers, it was almost
0:06:34 > 0:06:37a drama in a way so you had to watch the next episode to find out.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39So as well as being funny, it told a great story.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42Well, it was kind of Thatcher's Britain at the time, wasn't it?
0:06:42 > 0:06:45And this sort of Liverpool family. That thing about...
0:06:45 > 0:06:48Before they sat for dinner, wouldn't they all come in and give
0:06:48 > 0:06:51Nellie the money they had earned and she would put it in the pot.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54Had they earned it? Let's be honest!
0:06:54 > 0:06:57Yeah, one or two of them, probably not!
0:06:57 > 0:07:00Each episode saw the family fight to make a bob or two,
0:07:00 > 0:07:05whether from slightly dodgy deals, the benefit system or even work.
0:07:05 > 0:07:08Don't talk about it, Jack, just check it, buy and sell it,
0:07:08 > 0:07:10put the money in the pot and shut your gob.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12And Joey with his leather pants.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15Oh, yeah, everyone's heart-throb was Joey.
0:07:15 > 0:07:19- Exactly. Did you have some of those leather pants?- No, I didn't.
0:07:19 > 0:07:24- No, no.- You only picked up the leather pants recently?- From him.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27It was at a party, I don't want to go into it.
0:07:27 > 0:07:31I think, looking back at Bread now, it has probably influenced what I do
0:07:31 > 0:07:36now because it was a Catholic family. A devout Catholic family but so much
0:07:36 > 0:07:41humour involved in that community within the family, I think in
0:07:41 > 0:07:45a way, it has probably inspired what I wanted to do with Citizen Khan.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54We are going to move on to a thing we like to call Just Because.
0:07:54 > 0:07:58You used to watch it, just because.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00OK.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02GRANGE HILL THEME TUNE
0:08:02 > 0:08:03- Amazing.- Another classic.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06Where is the bit, the sausage on the fork, where is it?
0:08:06 > 0:08:08Oh, it's coming up, it's coming up.
0:08:08 > 0:08:09Great theme tune as well.
0:08:09 > 0:08:12THEY SING THE THEME TUNE
0:08:12 > 0:08:14Here we go. There you go, look at that.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16I used to have a radio show
0:08:16 > 0:08:18and I would play this theme tune just for a laugh.
0:08:18 > 0:08:20- I just loved it.- Yeah. - I just absolutely loved it.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22THEY SING THE THEME TUNE
0:08:22 > 0:08:24It is almost quite Indian, that last bit.
0:08:24 > 0:08:26THEY SING THE THEME TUNE Maybe that's why I liked it.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29- Come on, then.- Just a minute.
0:08:29 > 0:08:32- Tucker Jenkins.- Tucker.- Look at him.
0:08:32 > 0:08:35- ..and already you look a mess. - I don't like wearing a tie.
0:08:35 > 0:08:39- Can't help that.- Why do I have to wear one?- Because you do.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41They did touch on some really serious subjects.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44- Course they did, yeah.- Talked about drugs.- The whole Zammo...
0:08:44 > 0:08:46Underage sex, you know, things like that.
0:08:46 > 0:08:49The Zammo thing and the Just Say No was great,
0:08:49 > 0:08:52but it was brilliant. But I always remembered little stories like...
0:08:52 > 0:08:55Do you remember Roland? He was bullied a lot
0:08:55 > 0:08:59- and there was this young black girl at the school...- He was quite large?
0:08:59 > 0:09:02Yeah, he was quite large and she was lovely,
0:09:02 > 0:09:04but she'd just be like, "Roland, Roland,
0:09:04 > 0:09:06"Why don't you talk to me, Roland?"
0:09:06 > 0:09:07Oh, it was brilliant.
0:09:07 > 0:09:12Such great characters and it really drew you in, and I think...
0:09:12 > 0:09:15Phil Redmond, it's no wonder he went on to do things like Brookside,
0:09:15 > 0:09:17absolutely brilliant storytelling.
0:09:17 > 0:09:22For 30 years, Grange Hill was the most famous school on TV.
0:09:22 > 0:09:27Its most controversial storyline came in 1986 with class clown
0:09:27 > 0:09:29Zammo's heroin addiction.
0:09:29 > 0:09:32It led to the top ten single Just Say No,
0:09:32 > 0:09:36which proved they were much better actors than singers.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39MUSIC: Just Say No by the cast of Grange Hill
0:09:39 > 0:09:40# Just say no. #
0:09:40 > 0:09:46Again, it's that show that you own as a kid, it is one of those...
0:09:46 > 0:09:49It is meant for us, no-one else, parents can't watch this,
0:09:49 > 0:09:51this is for us, this is our world.
0:09:51 > 0:09:55You would get home from school and you would wait for Grange Hill.
0:09:55 > 0:09:58I was always disappointed that it always felt really short.
0:09:58 > 0:10:02I don't know why, I don't know whether it was 30 minutes, whether it was only 20...
0:10:02 > 0:10:04And the fact...I think it was only on once a week.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06- Was it only on once a week, yeah. - "Another week!"- Yeah.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09Now then, shall I come along to school with you?
0:10:13 > 0:10:17Enrolling at Grange Hill could lead to a glistening TV career as it
0:10:17 > 0:10:22did for Todd Carty, who graduated to become Mark Fowler in EastEnders.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26Michelle Gayle played Fiona Wilson,
0:10:26 > 0:10:28and she too joined EastEnders as Hattie.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32And Amanda Mealing, who played Tracey Edwards,
0:10:32 > 0:10:36became Casualty's headstrong clinical lead Connie.
0:10:37 > 0:10:42Now, some of the teachers in Grange Hill had bizarre nicknames,
0:10:42 > 0:10:44- would you agree?- Yes, if I can remember any of them.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46I think you know what is coming,
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- cos that is exactly what we are going to do.- Oh, really?
0:10:49 > 0:10:52Some of the names here are real and some of them are not.
0:10:52 > 0:10:58Just answer true or false. Mr Stuart "Hoppy" Hopwood. True or false?
0:10:58 > 0:11:01That is true, he was one of the earlier ones, Hopwood.
0:11:01 > 0:11:03- The earlier days. - You're an expert on Grange Hill.
0:11:03 > 0:11:07- Mr Geoff "Bullet" Baxter. - Ah, Geoff Baxter, the Bullet.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10I know this because Michael Cronin who played him...
0:11:10 > 0:11:12And this is sort of a bit of a homage,
0:11:12 > 0:11:15Michael Cronin was a guest on Citizen Khan.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18He played the mother-in-law's boyfriend who turned out to be
0:11:18 > 0:11:21- gay in Series- 2. So, that is how much you love Grange Hill.
0:11:21 > 0:11:25- You were getting in actors... - That is how much... That is what I do for people.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28But it was a real buzz working on something. "Oh, my God, that's Mr Baxter."
0:11:28 > 0:11:30"Where's your gym kit?"
0:11:30 > 0:11:33- So was he The Bullet? - He was The Bullet.- Course he was.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35Mr Keith "Crazy" Paving.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- Crazy paving.- True or false? - I think that is false.
0:11:39 > 0:11:41- Is it?- Hooray.- OK.
0:11:41 > 0:11:44Mrs Bridget "The Midget" McCluskey.
0:11:44 > 0:11:48- Yeah, Bridget The Midget, that's true. McCluskey.- Correct.- Yeah.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51Miss Terri "The Loony" Mooney.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54- True or false? - Terri "The Loony" Mooney.
0:11:54 > 0:11:55I'm going to say false on that one.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58- It's true.- Is it true? I don't remember that one.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00Mr Bill "Scruffy" McGuffey.
0:12:00 > 0:12:02- Yeah, that's true. - True, absolutely true.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05Mr Dave "Pedigree" Chumford.
0:12:06 > 0:12:08No, that's not true.
0:12:08 > 0:12:09You are right, it's false.
0:12:09 > 0:12:12Mr Nick "Smartarse" Smart.
0:12:12 > 0:12:14No, that's not true.
0:12:14 > 0:12:18- No, it is true.- What?- Yeah.- Oh, OK.
0:12:18 > 0:12:20BRIAN LAUGHS
0:12:20 > 0:12:23Mr Maurice "Bronco" Bronson, true or false?
0:12:23 > 0:12:24- That's definitely true.- True?
0:12:24 > 0:12:28- Yeah, definitely.- OK. - How strict was he, Bronco?- Yeah.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31With the 'tache. I wonder which historical figure he was based on?
0:12:31 > 0:12:33You really know your stuff about Grange Hill.
0:12:33 > 0:12:38- Or I didn't do any of my homework! And just watched TV instead. - Exactly.
0:12:44 > 0:12:46Talking of TV and never going to school,
0:12:46 > 0:12:50when you were ill, this was the programme used to watch.
0:12:50 > 0:12:52Oh, God, don't do this to me.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57The Crown, represented by Mr Stephen Harvesty, alleged that Lannigan
0:12:57 > 0:13:01bribed Ager to smuggle forbidden goods into the prison.
0:13:01 > 0:13:06Crown Court could have been seen as an early form of reality TV.
0:13:06 > 0:13:10The cases were fictional but the jurors were members of the public
0:13:10 > 0:13:14deciding if the actor defendant was guilty or not.
0:13:14 > 0:13:16Two outcomes had to be rehearsed for when the jury
0:13:16 > 0:13:18delivered their verdict.
0:13:18 > 0:13:19Oh.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21Oh, no. HE COUGHS
0:13:21 > 0:13:25I feel a bit ill. I'm just going to lie down here.
0:13:25 > 0:13:27Oh, bless.
0:13:27 > 0:13:30- What would you... - Crown Court, my God.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33This is supposed to make me feel better but it didn't.
0:13:33 > 0:13:37I remember, whenever I was ill, and I am sure it is perfectly illegal,
0:13:37 > 0:13:39but my mum would leave me at home on my own.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41You are not supposed to do that, were you?
0:13:41 > 0:13:44- It was a different era, wasn't it? - Exactly, all different then.
0:13:44 > 0:13:48So, she would leave me at home in front of the telly.
0:13:48 > 0:13:53Now there's no kids' TV in the day, there's no CBeebies, no DVDs.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55You were lucky if you had a VHS.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57We had none of that, so you had to watch what was on.
0:13:57 > 0:14:02And for some reason, Crown Court was the best thing for me at the time.
0:14:02 > 0:14:05There is nothing about this that says, "Kids, watch this show."
0:14:05 > 0:14:07But I'm going, "Yeah, I'll watch it."
0:14:07 > 0:14:10Do you know why, because you were meant to be at school!
0:14:10 > 0:14:14Exactly, everything was good as long as you were not at school.
0:14:14 > 0:14:17- You are at present detained in her Majesty's Prison Parkmore.- Yes, guv.
0:14:17 > 0:14:21Course, everyone in the box always had a southern accent.
0:14:21 > 0:14:23IN A COCKNEY ACCENT: Nothing but the truth, yeah.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26- But look who it is, it's Bob Hoskins.- Is it?
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- What sort of things did you run?- We used to run the book and we also...
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- The book? - Bookmaking, you know.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35It is incredible how many distinguished actors came
0:14:35 > 0:14:38- through Crown Court.- Brilliant, brilliant.- It really was...
0:14:38 > 0:14:41- It was a learning ground for many of them.- Yeah.
0:14:41 > 0:14:43Do you know the two defendants in the dock?
0:14:43 > 0:14:46- Well, one's a screw at Parkmore and the other one...- Erm...
0:14:46 > 0:14:47What did you say?
0:14:47 > 0:14:50A screw, Your Lordship, a prison officer.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54Crown Court wasn't exactly Hollywood but it did manage to attract
0:14:54 > 0:14:57some names who became pretty huge stars
0:14:57 > 0:15:00including the 12th Doctor Who, Peter Capaldi...
0:15:01 > 0:15:05..Harry Potter star Zoe Wanamaker,
0:15:05 > 0:15:07as well as Oscar winners Colin Firth
0:15:07 > 0:15:11and the star of Gandhi and Iron Man 3, Ben Kingsley.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16- Went straight, Mr D, or went soft? - Leave off.
0:15:16 > 0:15:20For me, it was either this, or my mum would leave a Bollywood movie on.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23The great thing about Bollywood movies, they are about
0:15:23 > 0:15:27four hours long, so my mum could leave for work at nine o'clock...
0:15:27 > 0:15:31So you are telling me you had a VHS recorder.
0:15:31 > 0:15:33Yeah, later in life, we did, we had a VHS...
0:15:33 > 0:15:35She would put this Bollywood film on for four hours,
0:15:35 > 0:15:37then she would go to work,
0:15:37 > 0:15:41then she would come home at lunchtime to give me some beans on toast and
0:15:41 > 0:15:44then put another Bollywood film on for four hours and come back at five.
0:15:44 > 0:15:50So every time I watch a Bollywood film now, I start getting a bit sick.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53You are like me, if you came home from school,
0:15:53 > 0:15:55- Mum and Dad weren't there, I had that.- Yeah.
0:15:55 > 0:15:56What happened if you forgot your key?
0:15:56 > 0:15:58Yeah, that would happen a lot, really.
0:15:58 > 0:16:00That exactly happened to me.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03Forgotten my key or Mum is not home, she is running late,
0:16:03 > 0:16:07so I would have to go and knock on Auntie Betty's door.
0:16:07 > 0:16:12They were called Auntie Betty and Uncle Arthur.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14You know that thing of going to someone else's house.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17"Oh, look, they've got carpet. Look, they've got...
0:16:17 > 0:16:20"What TV have they got? Ours is better than theirs."
0:16:20 > 0:16:23You have come round my house, I want to make you feel at home.
0:16:23 > 0:16:24What you going to do?
0:16:24 > 0:16:27This is something we found out, Uncle Brian's.
0:16:28 > 0:16:32- Brilliant. Oh, my God, this is... - Is it weak enough?
0:16:32 > 0:16:35I haven't met Auntie Betty in many years and Auntie Betty,
0:16:35 > 0:16:36if you are watching, I'm sorry.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40But this is exactly what she would do, in a plastic cup
0:16:40 > 0:16:43because I wasn't trusted with a glass so you have gone one better.
0:16:43 > 0:16:46I would take the glass home or something, do you know what I mean.
0:16:46 > 0:16:51- In those days, you got glasses for free from petrol stations.- Yeah.
0:16:51 > 0:16:53So I get this.
0:16:55 > 0:16:56Mmm!
0:16:56 > 0:16:58BRIAN LAUGHS
0:16:58 > 0:17:02What is it? It's not juice and it isn't water.
0:17:02 > 0:17:07It's like she has put just a drop of orange in it, what is that about?
0:17:07 > 0:17:11Tell me, is this a white English thing?
0:17:11 > 0:17:14I mean, what is it? In our house is like, "Have it, come on,
0:17:14 > 0:17:18"have some Coke, have another glass of Coke, one Vimto, Tango,
0:17:18 > 0:17:20"have it all, blackcurrant Ribena."
0:17:20 > 0:17:24Go to Auntie Betty's - "There you go, love, there you are.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28"Another digestive as well, but can you share that with Stuart?"
0:17:28 > 0:17:31What about this, what have we got here, we have got some crisps.
0:17:31 > 0:17:35This is brilliant, this isn't an Auntie Betty thing, this is my thing.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- This is great.- This is you?- Yeah, this is what we would do.
0:17:37 > 0:17:40This is you as a young kid or possibly a student?
0:17:40 > 0:17:43Coming home from school, you are waiting for Mum to come home
0:17:43 > 0:17:46and it is something I took to university with me as well.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49This is a crisp sandwich, you cannot beat a crisp sandwich.
0:17:49 > 0:17:53And you have to get these because what you have to do first is
0:17:53 > 0:17:58put your fingers all over the crisps and find...
0:17:58 > 0:17:59..that.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01So, could you please tell our viewers
0:18:01 > 0:18:03how to make a good crisp sarnie.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06I don't know the logic of it because I don't know why you just
0:18:06 > 0:18:10wouldn't buy ready-salted crisps but there is something about it,
0:18:10 > 0:18:12I guess it makes you feel creative, I don't know.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15You can decide how much salt you want on.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18What we are going to do is show you how to make a crisp sandwich.
0:18:18 > 0:18:19What are we doing, Brian?
0:18:19 > 0:18:23That's right, we are going to show you how to make a crisp sandwich.
0:18:23 > 0:18:26- How to make a crisp sandwich. - You are going to need crisps.
0:18:26 > 0:18:28We need some crisps. And you need some salt.
0:18:28 > 0:18:31And then what you do, you sprinkle the salt into the bag.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34- Enjoy the moment.- Enjoy that.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36- Is that enough? BOTH:- No.
0:18:36 > 0:18:37Is that enough?
0:18:37 > 0:18:39- BOTH:- No.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41- That's enough.- Because it's empty.
0:18:41 > 0:18:44Because it is empty now. And then you get the bag...
0:18:44 > 0:18:46- This is very important. - People forget this bit.
0:18:46 > 0:18:47What you are going to say now?
0:18:47 > 0:18:49They get this bit and they go, "Oh, why..."
0:18:49 > 0:18:53You've got to do this, you've got to keep the top closed...
0:18:54 > 0:18:58A bit of a shake, yeah, a bit of a shake and then,
0:18:58 > 0:19:01- simply take out some crisps...- Ah, so you are not actually pouring...
0:19:01 > 0:19:04- You take them out individually. - Take them out individually
0:19:04 > 0:19:06because the mess will get everywhere.
0:19:06 > 0:19:08This is better than Bake Off, forget the Bake Off,
0:19:08 > 0:19:10- this is where it is at. - The mess will get everywhere.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13- The great British Crisp Off. - Important to arrange them?
0:19:13 > 0:19:15- Arrange them, arrange them. - And keep little ones underneath?
0:19:15 > 0:19:17Just go for it, just go for it.
0:19:17 > 0:19:19You've got to let yourself... Got to be a bit Jamie,
0:19:19 > 0:19:22got to go a bit pukka, know what I mean?
0:19:22 > 0:19:25- Give it some. Go a bit like that. - Bit creative.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28Like that. Then you do that and you do that, pukka.
0:19:28 > 0:19:30I see what you are doing there, you are flattening it.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32You've got to flatten and kind of give it a...
0:19:32 > 0:19:36- Can I have a little feel?- No, no, no, this is the rule, you see. - Sorry.
0:19:36 > 0:19:39You've got to make your own sandwich because you don't want
0:19:39 > 0:19:42somebody else's fingers on your crisp sandwich. That's not right.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- Thank you very much.- Do you cut it? - Yes, of course you cut it, yeah.
0:19:46 > 0:19:48Of course you cut it.
0:19:48 > 0:19:52I know people like to do the triangle thing. I think that is how
0:19:52 > 0:19:55the Queen has it but I like to do proper Birmingham-style,
0:19:55 > 0:19:57there you go.
0:19:58 > 0:20:00There you go, you do that, there you go, that's it, perfect.
0:20:00 > 0:20:03- You can have one of those. - I'll have that.- Lovely.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05Cheers, everyone.
0:20:05 > 0:20:09Now, while we are eating this, let's have a look at The Young Ones.
0:20:15 > 0:20:20Hello and welcome to another edition of University Challenge.
0:20:20 > 0:20:22University Challenge.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25So, starter for ten, fingers on the buzzers.
0:20:25 > 0:20:27Who is the richest person in the world?
0:20:27 > 0:20:30- BUZZER - Scumbag, Vyvyan.
0:20:30 > 0:20:31What?
0:20:31 > 0:20:34Look at this cast, though, it is the whole Footlights crew, isn't it?
0:20:34 > 0:20:38This is brilliant. I love it when they start kicking it down.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40I am completely bloody sick of this.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47Give us some easy ones, Bambi, you big bottom boil!
0:20:49 > 0:20:51Relax, we can handle this. Vyvyan.
0:20:52 > 0:20:54Achtung!
0:20:54 > 0:20:55- BUZZER - It's not an automatic?
0:20:55 > 0:20:57EXPLOSION
0:20:57 > 0:20:59My mum knew that I liked this show called The Young Ones.
0:20:59 > 0:21:03I think to this day, she probably thinks it's a nice little Muppet Show
0:21:03 > 0:21:05or something cartoony.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07But she let me have my own portable TV in my room
0:21:07 > 0:21:08so I could watch The Young Ones.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11Cos I used to say to her, "I want to watch The Young Ones."
0:21:11 > 0:21:13She'd say, "No, you can't, I'm watching this.
0:21:13 > 0:21:15- But she gave me my own TV. - So you'd have been about...
0:21:15 > 0:21:17- About ten years old? - I suspect so, yeah.
0:21:17 > 0:21:19Ten years old and allowed...
0:21:19 > 0:21:22- So for a ten-year-old, this was...- It was just mad.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25You look back at it now and I understand more of the story,
0:21:25 > 0:21:26if there was a story.
0:21:26 > 0:21:29I didn't get a lot of the Thatcher jokes and the political jokes.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32But it was a thing that you had to watch because if you went to
0:21:32 > 0:21:35school the next day, me and my mates, we were all talking about it.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37You'd have had to have... if you hadn't watched
0:21:37 > 0:21:39The Young Ones, then you're not part of our gang.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42- Did you have a favourite character? - Vyvyan all the time.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45I told you that, Mike, you bloody cheat!
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- Could you do a Neil? - Oh, God! Erm...
0:21:47 > 0:21:50AS NEIL: Oh, come on, Vyvyan!
0:21:50 > 0:21:54- And Rick? Everyone done Rick. - AS RICK: Neil! Neil!
0:21:54 > 0:21:55Neil!
0:21:55 > 0:21:58- BUZZER - It was me... It was me!
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- AUDIENCE BOOS - Stop! Stop!
0:22:00 > 0:22:02It was quite weird and surreal.
0:22:03 > 0:22:05LAUGHTER
0:22:05 > 0:22:08To get their money, it came through the light entertainment way.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11- That's the reason the band would just appear at one point. - OK, yeah, yeah.
0:22:11 > 0:22:14You know, and they would have Madness or something in the lounge.
0:22:14 > 0:22:16Yeah. No...it's a great show.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21Again, one of the shows that probably made me think that
0:22:21 > 0:22:24if these guys can do comedy, why can't I, you know?
0:22:24 > 0:22:26I remember watching these shows going,
0:22:26 > 0:22:28- how much fun they seem to be having.- Yeah.
0:22:28 > 0:22:32You think, this is fun. This is a great way to earn a living.
0:22:33 > 0:22:38Those ever-so-charming boys went on to create more anarchic telly.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41Rik Mayall, Ade Edmonson and Nigel Planer starred in slapstick
0:22:41 > 0:22:45showbiz satire, Filthy Rich & Catflap,
0:22:45 > 0:22:50about a desperate actor, his useless minder and his dodgy agent.
0:22:51 > 0:22:55It was a warm-up for Rik and Ade's self-penned bonkers sitcom, Bottom,
0:22:55 > 0:22:58which occasionally featured their old Young Ones chum,
0:22:58 > 0:22:59Christopher Ryan.
0:23:06 > 0:23:10I want to talk now about the next generation of viewers
0:23:10 > 0:23:12- that you have helped shape. - Oh! Really?
0:23:12 > 0:23:16- We've got a clip now from Desi DNA.- OK, yeah.
0:23:18 > 0:23:20The first thing that strikes me about this place
0:23:20 > 0:23:23is the enormity of it, it is absolutely huge.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26Adil's first big TV break arrived in 2003
0:23:26 > 0:23:31when he presented the Asian arts and entertainment show, Desi DNA.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35The series explored the changing face of Asian culture, both here and abroad.
0:23:35 > 0:23:39..is that back in the UK, we're so used to going to the end of the street
0:23:39 > 0:23:41and praying in that converted terraced house.
0:23:41 > 0:23:44You know, Desi DNA, it was such a great series.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47Desi means, it's a Punjabi word which means "authentic, real".
0:23:47 > 0:23:49You know, to be real and authentic.
0:23:49 > 0:23:53And, you know, for people like us to be able to shout about
0:23:53 > 0:23:56Asian culture, Asian art, you know,
0:23:56 > 0:24:02architecture, to a mainstream BBC Two audience, was just fantastic.
0:24:02 > 0:24:03This was your first big break?
0:24:03 > 0:24:07My first major break was with Paul Whitehouse
0:24:07 > 0:24:10and Charlie Higson on a TV show called Bellamy's People.
0:24:10 > 0:24:14That's where I got my first break for playing Mr Khan.
0:24:14 > 0:24:17How is it for you that no-one knows you are...
0:24:17 > 0:24:20..Citizen Khan?
0:24:20 > 0:24:23- Even when you look at the photos, you don't...- I know.
0:24:23 > 0:24:26- It's amazing, the transformation. - Yeah, I quite like that.
0:24:26 > 0:24:29There's a great story about my aunt, series one.
0:24:29 > 0:24:33Because for my family, they just couldn't believe that I was on TV.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36"What, you're doing a sitcom? This doesn't make sense."
0:24:36 > 0:24:39Let's not underestimate you, you wrote the sitcom.
0:24:39 > 0:24:42Yeah, co-wrote the sitcom with Anil Gupta and Richard Pinto.
0:24:42 > 0:24:45So my aunt came round once the show had been on, and
0:24:45 > 0:24:49she came round for dinner and I said, "Did you like this show?"
0:24:49 > 0:24:51She said, "Yeah, it was OK." I was like, "Oh."
0:24:51 > 0:24:54So I said, "Auntie, what is it about the show?"
0:24:54 > 0:24:57"Well, I really enjoyed the show, I loved it, it's really funny.
0:24:57 > 0:25:00"Well, what's your problem?" She goes, "But you're not in it?" You know?
0:25:00 > 0:25:05Bless her. She'd watched like three or four episodes and hadn't realised that I was Mr Khan.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07So it is quite nice in that way, really.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10So we had to sit down and put the DVD on
0:25:10 > 0:25:14and get her to compare my nose... "Look, nose, same, same nose."
0:25:14 > 0:25:21- Shall we have a little look at the first Asian sitcom on British television?- Why not.- Well done you.
0:25:21 > 0:25:24Testing, testing, one, two.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27This is President Khan speaking.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30- That is you, that is great! - That is me!
0:25:30 > 0:25:33My fellow business leaders.
0:25:33 > 0:25:36Ask not what your association can do for you.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39But what have you done for me, lately?
0:25:39 > 0:25:42- I am a big fan of this. I think it's really great.- Thanks.
0:25:42 > 0:25:46- You know you can drop in any time and use the facilities here.- Yes.
0:25:46 > 0:25:50- This is the house of God open to everyone.- Yes, that is very nice.
0:25:50 > 0:25:53- Can I just ask one thing? - Shoot.- Who the hell are you?
0:25:53 > 0:25:56What is the biggest buzz you get from writing Citizen Khan?
0:25:56 > 0:25:59Is it writing, is it the performance, is it reaction?
0:25:59 > 0:26:01I... I feel performance, obviously.
0:26:01 > 0:26:04It is a great buzz with all the nerves that happen beforehand.
0:26:04 > 0:26:08As soon as you're on stage, I am sure you have felt this, it is like, "Wow, this is great."
0:26:08 > 0:26:12You feel like this is what I want to do. But in terms of the reaction, I've always said, you know,
0:26:12 > 0:26:15writing this comedy, if it can go and television, go on to BBC One
0:26:15 > 0:26:18and a white family are watching it
0:26:18 > 0:26:20and the wife is sat next to the husband
0:26:20 > 0:26:22and Mr Khan does something quite ridiculous,
0:26:22 > 0:26:26and bear in mind this is a Pakistani Muslim guy with a beard that has
0:26:26 > 0:26:29so many connotations and stereotypes that go with that image,
0:26:29 > 0:26:31but suddenly you know the wife nudges the husband
0:26:31 > 0:26:34while they're sat down having their fish and chips or their curry and goes,
0:26:34 > 0:26:36"That Mr Khan, that's a bit of you, that is."
0:26:36 > 0:26:39- Yeah.- That... That gives me the greatest satisfaction.
0:26:39 > 0:26:42That tells me that we are doing our job, we are
0:26:42 > 0:26:46taking characters that have never been seen before on television
0:26:46 > 0:26:49but people are relating to them and you have this sort
0:26:49 > 0:26:50of universality that people go,
0:26:50 > 0:26:52"Actually I connect so much with that."
0:26:52 > 0:26:56Especially for young kids now, I kind of worried myself as a British Muslim
0:26:56 > 0:26:59that the only time we see a Muslim guy with a beard on the telly is
0:26:59 > 0:27:02when they've either been a terrorist or they are suspected
0:27:02 > 0:27:05of being a terrorist, or they are on talking about terrorism.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08And suddenly we have this bearded Muslim called Mr Khan who
0:27:08 > 0:27:11is just a lovable guy, for young kids to go, "I like this guy.
0:27:11 > 0:27:13"I think he is funny, I love him." You know, it's a great...
0:27:13 > 0:27:17It's a great feeling, I have to say and it's credit to all the writers that I work with
0:27:17 > 0:27:19and everyone on the show that makes that happen
0:27:19 > 0:27:22- and I am glad it has all been embraced by our audience. - And credit to you.
0:27:22 > 0:27:25Now we always give our guests a chance to pick a theme tune
0:27:25 > 0:27:28- to go out with.- OK.- What have you got in your head?- Oh, God.
0:27:28 > 0:27:30I think the ultimate for me,
0:27:30 > 0:27:33and he's not with us any more, is John Sullivan, I think.
0:27:33 > 0:27:34The fact that he wrote
0:27:34 > 0:27:37and sang the theme tune to Only Fools And Horses, is just tremendous.
0:27:37 > 0:27:41I don't think any sitcom has ever matched how big that theme
0:27:41 > 0:27:45tune was and I don't think anyone ever will. It's just brilliant.
0:27:45 > 0:27:48Just from the moment, the beginning of that drumroll, "du-du-du".
0:27:48 > 0:27:50Oh, it's just fantastic!
0:27:50 > 0:27:52And you have got to sing along to it.
0:27:52 > 0:27:55- Just great, so Only Fools And Horses for me, I think.- Thanks, Adil.
0:27:55 > 0:27:57- Brian, thanks very much. - God bless you.- Thank you.
0:27:57 > 0:28:02And thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me. We will see you next time. Bye-bye.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08# We've got some half price cracked ice
0:28:08 > 0:28:10# And miles and miles of carpet tiles
0:28:10 > 0:28:13# TVs, deep freeze and David Bowie LPs
0:28:13 > 0:28:16# Ball games, gold chains, whatshisnames
0:28:16 > 0:28:19# And Trevor Francis track suits from a mush in Shepherds Bush
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