Duncan Bannatyne

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Telly, that magic box in the corner.

0:00:04 > 0:00:07It gives us access to a million different worlds,

0:00:07 > 0:00:10all from the comfort of our sofa.

0:00:10 > 0:00:12In this series, I'm going to journey through

0:00:12 > 0:00:16the fantastic world of TV with some of our favourite celebrities.

0:00:16 > 0:00:20They have chosen the precious TV moments that shed light...

0:00:20 > 0:00:24- The wind almost blew my BLANK off. - You're nearly in the telly here.

0:00:24 > 0:00:25'..on the stories of their lives.'

0:00:25 > 0:00:28You are so blinking clever, you look after him.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30- This takes me back completely. - Come on.

0:00:30 > 0:00:32Some are funny...

0:00:32 > 0:00:34HIGH PITCHED: # And when they were down they were down... #

0:00:34 > 0:00:36- Some...- Thank you!

0:00:36 > 0:00:38..are surprising.

0:00:38 > 0:00:39Terrifies the life out of me.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41Some are inspiring...

0:00:41 > 0:00:43I wanted to be on the telly.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45That's it from me, back to you two.

0:00:45 > 0:00:46And many...

0:00:46 > 0:00:49This rather futuristic TV...

0:00:49 > 0:00:51..are deeply moving.

0:00:51 > 0:00:55- And it was heartbreaking. I wept. It was heartbreaking.- It's not real.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58So come watch with us as we hand-pick the vintage telly

0:00:58 > 0:01:01that helped turn our much-loved stars

0:01:01 > 0:01:03into the people they are today.

0:01:04 > 0:01:06Welcome to The TV That Made Me.

0:01:15 > 0:01:19My guest today has gone from a wee Scottish paperboy to

0:01:19 > 0:01:23a multimillionaire by way of selling ice creams,

0:01:23 > 0:01:26servicing tractors and sailing with the Royal Navy.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30He is now an entrepreneur, a philanthropist, author

0:01:30 > 0:01:34and most famous for being one of the original fire-breathing

0:01:34 > 0:01:37millionaires who inhabited the Dragons' Den.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39It's Duncan Bannatyne.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42When you run out of money, give me a ring.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45The TV that made him includes the classic

0:01:45 > 0:01:48Fall And Rise Of Reggie Perrin's personal fortunes.

0:01:48 > 0:01:51We will be selling our usual full range of utterly useless rubbish.

0:01:51 > 0:01:55The epic spectacle of the Edinburgh Tattoo.

0:01:58 > 0:02:02And dramatic events from the cobbles of Coronation Street.

0:02:02 > 0:02:04You ought to watch her, she's a bad 'un.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08It can only be the one and only Duncan Bannatyne. Sir, really.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11- It should be sir.- Oh, thank you. - First things first.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14Now, I've got a new show where celebrities come on

0:02:14 > 0:02:18- and talk about their TV memories, are you in or are you out?- I'm in.

0:02:18 > 0:02:19Yeah? I'm glad you're in.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22- Are you excited?- I'm very excited. This is my excited face.

0:02:22 > 0:02:24THEY LAUGH

0:02:24 > 0:02:26So this today is a celebration,

0:02:26 > 0:02:30a selection of TV shows that possibly made you who you are.

0:02:30 > 0:02:32And we're going to go back to the beginning

0:02:32 > 0:02:36and have a little look at the young Duncan.

0:02:38 > 0:02:42Duncan Walker Bannatyne was born in 1949.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47He was the second eldest of seven children who grew up

0:02:47 > 0:02:50in an austere post-war Scotland.

0:02:52 > 0:02:56Duncan and his family lived in the famously tough shipbuilding

0:02:56 > 0:03:00area of Clydebank, which was a major target of German bombing

0:03:00 > 0:03:02raids during the Second World War.

0:03:06 > 0:03:10So, how devastating was the Blitz to Clydebank?

0:03:10 > 0:03:13- You know, did it pretty much flatten it?- Yeah, it was pretty bad.

0:03:13 > 0:03:15Yeah, Clydebank took some really big hits.

0:03:15 > 0:03:19Because it was shipbuilding, so they tried to destroy the ships.

0:03:22 > 0:03:26I believe that you started your life in a requisitioned house.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28That's right. It was called Springfield House.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30But what does that mean when it's a requisition?

0:03:30 > 0:03:33Well, after the war, the Government requisitioned some houses,

0:03:33 > 0:03:37took them off the owners, really, cos they were big houses.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39And they had to accommodate families.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42So we... There was three families lived in this house.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44With an outside toilet.

0:03:44 > 0:03:48- And you got a room each.- One outside toilet?- One outside toilet, yeah.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51- For three families? - Three families, yeah. Yeah.

0:03:56 > 0:04:00So, Duncan, I want to ask, was TV a big part of your life?

0:04:00 > 0:04:01It was when we eventually got one.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04I didn't have a television until, I think, I was about

0:04:04 > 0:04:06eight or nine years old when the first television came to our house.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08So what did you do before you had a telly?

0:04:08 > 0:04:11- Did you ever see any television? - No. We...

0:04:11 > 0:04:14Well, for about six months, I think, before we got ours,

0:04:14 > 0:04:17there were some friends who had a television, so we'd all go to theirs.

0:04:17 > 0:04:19I mean, five families go around...

0:04:19 > 0:04:23- Imagine if you're... You're probably watching a screen that big.- Yeah.

0:04:23 > 0:04:28- In a box like this.- That's right, yeah.- Built like a bungalow.

0:04:28 > 0:04:31Do you remember what it was like getting your first telly?

0:04:31 > 0:04:33Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36You know, my parents told me we were going to get a television.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39And I think it was a Friday night, we came home from school...

0:04:39 > 0:04:42Well, we ran home from school, excited, because the television

0:04:42 > 0:04:44was going to be there. And my dad, who worked shifts,

0:04:44 > 0:04:46he was sitting, watching cricket.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49I distinctly remember walking in and seeing that television,

0:04:49 > 0:04:50and we had to sit down.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52"It's only cricket, can we watch something else?"

0:04:52 > 0:04:54No, he was just watching the cricket, and that was it.

0:04:54 > 0:04:58- Here is a bit of cricket. - A bit of cricket, yeah.

0:04:58 > 0:05:02- That's the same... That is exactly the same cricket match.- No!

0:05:02 > 0:05:04- THEY LAUGH - Are we that good?

0:05:04 > 0:05:07Of all the amazing things that could've been on,

0:05:07 > 0:05:09- it was the cricket. - That was it, yeah.

0:05:09 > 0:05:13So the first thing Duncan Bannatyne ever saw on his own TV

0:05:13 > 0:05:17in one of the tougher parts of the west of Scotland was a game

0:05:17 > 0:05:22mostly played by Englishmen on southern village greens.

0:05:22 > 0:05:28So your first TV moment, you have chosen a show - Take Your Pick.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30Take Your Pick, yeah. Great programme. Yeah, loved it.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33- Shall we have a little look? - Absolutely, yeah.- All right, Duncan.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35Here we go. Have a little look at Take Your Pick.

0:05:35 > 0:05:38'It's time to meet this evening's competitors as they come...'

0:05:38 > 0:05:40Take Your Pick. Does it take you back?

0:05:40 > 0:05:43- It certainly does!- Yeah.- Yeah.

0:05:43 > 0:05:45So let's meet our first contestant.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48Take your pick was one of the first shows

0:05:48 > 0:05:52screened by ITV when it launched in 1955.

0:05:53 > 0:05:58Its addictive combination of quick fire yes/no game and thrilling

0:05:58 > 0:06:03mystery box round set the template for many game shows to follow.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06And it became an immediate ratings hit.

0:06:06 > 0:06:08Keep your face up a wee bit, dear.

0:06:08 > 0:06:10So she's not allowed to say yes or no.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13That's right. If she does, she doesn't get to play the game,

0:06:13 > 0:06:14so she can't win a prize.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17I mean, it's such a simple concept.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20- Yeah.- But, you know, so effective, isn't it?

0:06:20 > 0:06:22Tell me this, whereabouts do you come from?

0:06:22 > 0:06:24What's your favourite colour?

0:06:24 > 0:06:25Red, blue, borstal.

0:06:25 > 0:06:31Borstal? Where did borstal come in? "Red, blue, borstal."

0:06:31 > 0:06:33- Your husband is in borstal? - He is... No.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35GONG

0:06:35 > 0:06:39THEY LAUGH

0:06:39 > 0:06:40That is good.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42Who's the guy with the gong? Do know who he is?

0:06:42 > 0:06:43Nobody knows his name.

0:06:43 > 0:06:48- Just this mystery man who just turned up.- Just Mr Gonger.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50And the next one. A nice welcome, please.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53But I think it was interesting, Michael Miles, no-nonsense

0:06:53 > 0:06:55in his presenting. Here she comes, she is going to be good,

0:06:55 > 0:06:57this one.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01- You were looking a bit cagey when you came in there, weren't you?- Yes.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03GONG

0:07:03 > 0:07:05THEY LAUGH

0:07:05 > 0:07:07They should bring it back!

0:07:07 > 0:07:10I mean, it's so simple, but it is difficult.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12It's amazing how difficult it is not to say yes or no.

0:07:12 > 0:07:17- Yeah.- Yeah.- Do you fancy your chances? Go on, then.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19- Really?- Yeah.- All right.- If I must.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22Duncan Bannatyne to the test, ladies and gentlemen,

0:07:22 > 0:07:26with our very own version of the yes/no game

0:07:26 > 0:07:27from Take Your Pick.

0:07:27 > 0:07:29We're going to put 30 seconds on the clock.

0:07:29 > 0:07:33You've got 30 seconds. Time starts now. Are you from Glasgow?

0:07:33 > 0:07:35I am, yes. GONG

0:07:35 > 0:07:40THEY LAUGH

0:07:45 > 0:07:47- Can we do that again? - I'll do it again.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50We're going to put another 30 seconds on the clock,

0:07:50 > 0:07:51ladies and gentlemen.

0:07:51 > 0:07:53Duncan's second go.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57- So, Duncan, are you from Glasgow? - I am from Glasgow.- OK.

0:07:57 > 0:08:01If you make it to 30 seconds, will you buy me a drink?

0:08:01 > 0:08:03- I will buy you a drink if I make it.- God bless you.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05What letter comes after R?

0:08:05 > 0:08:08What letter comes after R? I think it's an S.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11- Did you say yes?- No, I said... GONG

0:08:11 > 0:08:12Yeah!

0:08:18 > 0:08:21That was... You were so rubbish.

0:08:21 > 0:08:22I'm terrible!

0:08:29 > 0:08:32Duncan, I want to talk about your dad's choice now, you know,

0:08:32 > 0:08:33something he used to love.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35I mean, he loved the cricket.

0:08:35 > 0:08:39Yeah. One thing he really enjoyed...

0:08:39 > 0:08:44Because he was in the Army, the Scottish Highlanders,

0:08:44 > 0:08:46- and they were based in Edinburgh Castle.- Yeah.

0:08:46 > 0:08:48So every year, you had the Edinburgh Tattoo.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- I don't know if you remember that, do you?- Oh, no, I do!

0:08:51 > 0:08:53And I'll tell you why, my dad used to work for the BBC

0:08:53 > 0:08:57and he used to be a rigger's supervisor. So he would go...

0:08:57 > 0:08:59I, even at a young age, went up there and saw it.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03- I mean, it was a huge thing for Edinburgh as well.- Yeah.

0:09:03 > 0:09:05- Shall we have a little look?- Yeah.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07Here we go, let's have a little look. Here it is.

0:09:07 > 0:09:11The Edinburgh Military Tattoo of 1962.

0:09:11 > 0:09:14CROWD CHEERS

0:09:21 > 0:09:22The Military Tattoo

0:09:22 > 0:09:25has been an annual event since 1952,

0:09:25 > 0:09:28and it remains a poignant reminder and a rousing

0:09:28 > 0:09:33celebration of the achievements of the Commonwealth's armed forces.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37Today, it's estimated that 100 million watch it on telly

0:09:37 > 0:09:42in the dozens of countries that screen it around the world.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45These military bandsmen, 200 altogether,

0:09:45 > 0:09:48are drawn from the Royal Marines and Parachute Regiment.

0:09:48 > 0:09:52Would you remember watching this on the telly with your dad?

0:09:52 > 0:09:54Yeah, I did. We'd sit and watch it with him.

0:09:54 > 0:09:56I mean, we'd get bored by the end of the programme

0:09:56 > 0:09:59because it was quite a long programme, I think,

0:09:59 > 0:10:01and there was a lot of this in it.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10So your father, I mean, this was a big thing for him.

0:10:10 > 0:10:12Big thing for him, yeah.

0:10:12 > 0:10:13Because he was part of that, you know,

0:10:13 > 0:10:16when he was in the war, before the war.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18So he was in the war, your dad?

0:10:18 > 0:10:20Do you know, he never actually got to the war.

0:10:20 > 0:10:24No, he got on a ship, and the ship was sunk.

0:10:24 > 0:10:28- And he was taken prisoner to a Far East prisoner of war camp.- Right.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31And he spent five years as a prisoner of war.

0:10:31 > 0:10:33Of course, at the end of the war, he was one of the...

0:10:33 > 0:10:38The Americans opened the prison camps and the prisoners in there

0:10:38 > 0:10:41were like five or six stone, the walking dead, he was one of them.

0:10:41 > 0:10:42- Really?- Yeah.

0:10:42 > 0:10:48So did he talk about his experiences being in a prisoner of war camp?

0:10:48 > 0:10:51Very, very seldom. Normally, he wouldn't.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54But there was a couple of things... We were having a drink together

0:10:54 > 0:10:56and he talked about them then.

0:10:56 > 0:11:01So when he came out, what he decided in his head was,

0:11:01 > 0:11:04he was going to get fit and he was going to find a woman,

0:11:04 > 0:11:06he was going to fall in love, he was going to get married

0:11:06 > 0:11:08and he was going to have a family.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11And he did over the next few years. You know, very successfully.

0:11:11 > 0:11:15- Are you very proud of your dad? - Oh, yes, absolutely, yeah. Yeah.

0:11:15 > 0:11:17I think I got my father's determination.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21He was determined to build a family up and do that after...

0:11:21 > 0:11:24after the war. And so I think I've always been determined

0:11:24 > 0:11:27when I focus and when I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.

0:11:33 > 0:11:35Now, we haven't spoken about your mum much, but we are going to.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38- Your mum's choice now, what do you think that is?- Coronation Street.

0:11:38 > 0:11:39- It's got to be.- Yeah.

0:11:39 > 0:11:45Now, has she bestowed this love of Corrie onto her son?

0:11:45 > 0:11:49I watch it a bit, but I was with my mother

0:11:49 > 0:11:51when we watched the very first episode.

0:11:51 > 0:11:56We've got that. This is the very first episode of Coronation Street.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59You wouldn't say that if you saw the residential part.

0:11:59 > 0:12:02It's the last word! And another thing, the property is...

0:12:02 > 0:12:05Broadcast in December 1960,

0:12:05 > 0:12:06the first episode of Corrie

0:12:06 > 0:12:09was about the new owners of a corner shop -

0:12:09 > 0:12:11a lady called Elsie Tanner,

0:12:11 > 0:12:15who is thinking money has gone missing from her purse, and a

0:12:15 > 0:12:19boy called Ken Barlow, who secretly dreams of going to university.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23The rest, as they say, is TV history.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26Now go and put the kettle on. You'll be all right on your own.

0:12:26 > 0:12:27They won't eat you, you know.

0:12:27 > 0:12:30So why do you think your mum enjoyed it so much?

0:12:30 > 0:12:35I think it was just sort of true life, wasn't it? You know.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38- Ena Sharples comes in and... - Oh, Ena Sharples!

0:12:38 > 0:12:42- Yeah, she was a great character. - Yeah, yeah. Oh, here she comes.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45You remember! You haven't seen this for... But you remembered

0:12:45 > 0:12:48- Ena Sharples was coming in. - She comes in, yeah.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51- I'm Mrs Sharples.- I'm very pleased to meet you.- I'm a neighbour.

0:12:51 > 0:12:52- IMITATES HER:- I'm a neighbour.

0:12:52 > 0:12:55Esmeralda Street, eh? Very bay window down there, aren't they?

0:12:55 > 0:12:58THEY IMITATE HER

0:12:58 > 0:13:02- You come across a Mrs Tanner yet? - I can't say I have.- You will.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04You ought to watch her, she's a bad 'un.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06Oh, while I think on, you owe me an egg.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09Do you think if I put you to the test now, you could maybe answer

0:13:09 > 0:13:12some questions about characters on Coronation Street?

0:13:12 > 0:13:15I've got a terrible, terrible, terrible memory

0:13:15 > 0:13:17- so probably not, but I'll have a go.- Well, tough!

0:13:17 > 0:13:19Hard luck, we're going to have a go.

0:13:19 > 0:13:21Can we just play yes or no again?

0:13:21 > 0:13:23Don't give me this about a bad memory,

0:13:23 > 0:13:26you remembered that Elsie Tanner was going to walk through

0:13:26 > 0:13:28the door, and you haven't seen it for 50 years.

0:13:28 > 0:13:31Well, there's short memory and long memory. It's two different things.

0:13:31 > 0:13:35So, Duncan, let's test your love of vintage Coronation Street

0:13:35 > 0:13:39characters with a little game we like to call Who Am I, Chuck?

0:13:39 > 0:13:41Can we test out your buzzer, please?

0:13:41 > 0:13:43Can you give me a buzzer?

0:13:43 > 0:13:44- You want me to buzz?- Yeah.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46- Buzz!- Good, I'm happy with that.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48We couldn't afford a buzzer,

0:13:48 > 0:13:51but buzz in whenever you know the answer.

0:13:51 > 0:13:54Here it is. Here's the first one. Who am I, Chuck?

0:13:54 > 0:13:59"I was born in Weatherfield in 1899 with the maiden name of Schofield."

0:14:01 > 0:14:04Phillip Schofield. No.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06- Duncan...- Oh, buzz!

0:14:06 > 0:14:08No, you didn't buzz in.

0:14:08 > 0:14:11Remember, Coronation Street character.

0:14:11 > 0:14:16"I was once fined 40 shillings for stealing from a supermarket."

0:14:16 > 0:14:20- Oh, my goodness.- "My favourite tipple was milk stout."

0:14:20 > 0:14:22- Here's your next one...- Buzz!

0:14:22 > 0:14:25- Ena Sharples? - Ena Sharples, absolutely correct.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27She was fined for stealing?

0:14:27 > 0:14:29- Yeah, 40 shillings. - Oh, I didn't know that.

0:14:29 > 0:14:34- A lot of money in those days.- Wow. - "My maiden name is Grimshaw.

0:14:34 > 0:14:38"In my time living on Coronation Street, I was a shop assistant,

0:14:38 > 0:14:42"factory supervisor, cafe manager and a barmaid.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44- "I was known..."- Buzz! Elsie Tanner.

0:14:44 > 0:14:48Absolutely. Good. Very good. Spot on there, well done.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50Here's your final one.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52- See, you did watch Coronation Street.- Yeah.

0:14:52 > 0:14:55"My maiden name was Hunt.

0:14:55 > 0:14:59"I arrived on Coronation Street as a flirty receptionist

0:14:59 > 0:15:01"and became a local government official.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04- "I have been married four times to three different men..."- Buzz!

0:15:04 > 0:15:08God, what's her name, with the big glasses. Buzz! Deirdre Barlow.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10Three out of three, well done!

0:15:10 > 0:15:13Well done indeed.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16- The late great Anne Kirkbride, do you remember?- Yeah.

0:15:16 > 0:15:20- Absolutely, yeah. Fantastic actress. - I think, Duncan,

0:15:20 > 0:15:25- we have outed you as a secret Coronation Street viewer.- Yeah.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27So which of our favourite female soap stars

0:15:27 > 0:15:29pulled in the most viewers?

0:15:31 > 0:15:33At four, from the much missed Brookside,

0:15:33 > 0:15:35it's Anna Friel's Beth,

0:15:35 > 0:15:39whose lesbian kiss got the show its highest ever audience

0:15:39 > 0:15:42of seven million in 1995.

0:15:43 > 0:15:47At three, the return of Claire King's character, Kim Tate,

0:15:47 > 0:15:50gave her on-screen husband, Frank,

0:15:50 > 0:15:52a fatal heart attack as the ratings

0:15:52 > 0:15:55rushed to 13 million for Emmerdale.

0:15:58 > 0:16:03At two, when Jean Alexander's Hilda Ogden bowed out of Corrie,

0:16:03 > 0:16:0728.5 million people tuned in

0:16:07 > 0:16:09to wish her their best.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16But at one, Hilda's pipped to the post by Angie Watts.

0:16:16 > 0:16:19When Anita Dobson's character was served divorce papers

0:16:19 > 0:16:25by that no good husband Den on Christmas Day, 1986,

0:16:25 > 0:16:29an audience of 30 million tuned in.

0:16:29 > 0:16:34So, what did you think that tough upbringing gave to you?

0:16:34 > 0:16:38It gave me just the feeling that I wanted to do things different,

0:16:38 > 0:16:39I wanted to get out of that.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42I wanted to see the world, that's why I joined the Royal Navy.

0:16:42 > 0:16:44I wanted to do lots of different things.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47- Yeah? So you were in the Navy for how long?- Five years.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- I was 15 when I joined, 20 when I came out.- You were 15!

0:16:50 > 0:16:51You could join at that...?

0:16:51 > 0:16:54- It was the last year that you could leave school at 15.- Oh, right.

0:16:54 > 0:16:58So what did you see? What parts of the world did you see?

0:16:58 > 0:17:01We circumnavigated the world, we went round it.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04We were in the Keys in Florida,

0:17:04 > 0:17:08we went round South Africa, Singapore, Australia...

0:17:08 > 0:17:11Do you feel that you grew up in that time, those five years?

0:17:11 > 0:17:15- Yeah, I did, yeah. It was amazing, yeah. I saw a lot of things.- Yeah.

0:17:15 > 0:17:19- Saw different worlds. - So why did you leave the Navy?

0:17:19 > 0:17:21HE CACKLES

0:17:21 > 0:17:24- What?- Well, I was court-martialled. - Oh, really?

0:17:24 > 0:17:26- Dishonourably discharged. - Oh, really?

0:17:26 > 0:17:28And sentenced to nine months' detention

0:17:28 > 0:17:31- at Colchester Detention Barracks. - Really, what for?

0:17:31 > 0:17:33Showing violence to a superior officer.

0:17:33 > 0:17:35Showing violence to a superior officer.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37I lifted him off the gangway and tried to throw him

0:17:37 > 0:17:40- off the side of an aircraft carrier. - Where do you move from there?

0:17:40 > 0:17:43Well, I moved back into my parents' house

0:17:43 > 0:17:46when I was 20 and I had to go and sign on as unemployed.

0:17:46 > 0:17:49I had no qualifications, no education, really,

0:17:49 > 0:17:50and no references.

0:17:53 > 0:17:55A lot of people would give up, but it's obvious you didn't.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57Yeah, well, I went one day to sign

0:17:57 > 0:18:00and get my unemployment benefit and they said there's a new

0:18:00 > 0:18:04initiative the Government had started where you can retrain.

0:18:04 > 0:18:07And I looked at the options and I thought, "Wow, this is great.

0:18:07 > 0:18:11- "Repairing typewriters."- No!- Yeah!

0:18:11 > 0:18:14I wanted to be a typewriter repairman cos I thought

0:18:14 > 0:18:17I'd be in an air-conditioned office all the time,

0:18:17 > 0:18:18surrounded by secretaries.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21- What's wrong with that?- Sounds good.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24You had to tick a second one

0:18:24 > 0:18:28so I ticked agricultural vehicle fitter and welder, for some reason.

0:18:28 > 0:18:31I ticked that and I went back to the dole office and they said,

0:18:31 > 0:18:35"There's no typewriter repairman vacancies any more, so you're going

0:18:35 > 0:18:37"to train as an agricultural vehicle fitter and welder."

0:18:37 > 0:18:39That's a mouthful.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42You need an O-level just to say that.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45Yeah, but I passed as an agricultural vehicle fitter and welder.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47And I've still got that to fall back on if things go wrong.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50- You know what I mean? Yeah. - So what did you learn as an agri...

0:18:50 > 0:18:52HE MUMBLES

0:18:54 > 0:18:57Well, I learned how to say "agricultural vehicle fitter and welder"!

0:19:04 > 0:19:05Comedy hero?

0:19:05 > 0:19:07- Leonard Rossiter.- Yeah.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09So let's have a little look, shall we?

0:19:09 > 0:19:11This is what makes Duncan laugh.

0:19:11 > 0:19:13Leonard Rossiter's performance

0:19:13 > 0:19:18is so good that we almost forget that Reginald Iolanthe Perrin

0:19:18 > 0:19:22is a man who has had a complete nervous breakdown

0:19:22 > 0:19:24and faked his own death.

0:19:24 > 0:19:25But it's this tragic basis

0:19:25 > 0:19:29of the story that allows Rossiter to deliver such a classic act.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32..We will be selling our usual full range of utterly useless rubbish -

0:19:32 > 0:19:34square hoops, square footballs,

0:19:34 > 0:19:36cruet sets with no holes,

0:19:36 > 0:19:39blank books, fattening foods...

0:19:39 > 0:19:42Got to get a round of applause for this...

0:19:42 > 0:19:44..We will be introducing three new silent LPs -

0:19:44 > 0:19:47We Aren't The Champions, You'll Always Walk Alone

0:19:47 > 0:19:49and Songs From A Trappist Monastery.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52- That is amazing. He's such a funny guy.- Yeah.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54People thought he was actually based on John Stonehouse.

0:19:54 > 0:19:59- Yeah.- You know, the MP.- That's right.- Do you believe that theory?

0:19:59 > 0:20:02Yes, I think so, yeah. There was a bit of it.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04Cos what was the story?

0:20:04 > 0:20:07Well, John Stonehouse had done something similar, he'd, er...

0:20:07 > 0:20:10I think he was an MP, and he took his clothes off on a beach

0:20:10 > 0:20:14and disappeared. And he actually appeared somewhere else.

0:20:14 > 0:20:17- So he tried to fake his own death? - Yeah.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20There will also be an exciting new range of useless car stickers,

0:20:20 > 0:20:22like "We've been to the shop that sells car stickers",

0:20:22 > 0:20:26"We haven't been anywhere" and "This sticker doesn't stick".

0:20:26 > 0:20:28And you don't want to hear me waffling away all day...

0:20:28 > 0:20:31Did you like it because he was a businessman?

0:20:31 > 0:20:36There was a bit of that, yeah, but it was just, the whole thing was funny, everything he did was funny.

0:20:36 > 0:20:38You know, I mean, he opens the shop and says,

0:20:38 > 0:20:42"We're selling complete and utter rubbish." You know? The whole scenario.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45- The scriptwriters must have been so great as well in those days. - Yeah.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48I mean, scripts like that

0:20:48 > 0:20:51and other really iconic programmes,

0:20:51 > 0:20:55like Only Fools And Horses, they had such fantastic writers all the time.

0:20:55 > 0:20:56Mm-hm.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59I want to move on to what you consider your,

0:20:59 > 0:21:02you know, pivotal moment,

0:21:02 > 0:21:05your epiphany, your moment where you went,

0:21:05 > 0:21:08"Actually...this is what I can do."

0:21:08 > 0:21:10Or "This is where I can make my millions."

0:21:10 > 0:21:16Yeah. Well, I ended up when I was 25 living in the Channel Islands, in Jersey,

0:21:16 > 0:21:20and I used to rent out deckchairs - which is great, you're meeting people all the time -

0:21:20 > 0:21:26- and sold a bit of ice cream so I was a bit of a beach bum, really.- Mm-hm.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28And I was 29, I met my first wife,

0:21:28 > 0:21:31and we decided we were going to

0:21:31 > 0:21:34start a life together, have children, so we needed money,

0:21:34 > 0:21:37a decent job and things. So we came back to England.

0:21:37 > 0:21:4029 years old, I opened my first bank account when I was 29,

0:21:40 > 0:21:43and we started saving up to buy a house.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46And then I was working at a bakery, working shifts,

0:21:46 > 0:21:51and I decided to buy an ice cream van and start selling ice cream.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54So at the weekend I went and sold ice cream,

0:21:54 > 0:21:57and I did so well, I went to work and gave a week's notice.

0:21:57 > 0:21:59Within about a year I had about four or five ice cream vans,

0:21:59 > 0:22:01and that was it, five years I spent just selling ice cream.

0:22:01 > 0:22:05I realised then that I loved business, I loved the concept of business.

0:22:05 > 0:22:07- Yeah.- And adding up the percentages

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- and where you could buy the best stock and sell the best stock and things like that.- Yeah.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- And that's how I really became involved in business.- Yeah.

0:22:14 > 0:22:19From the ice cream business, I went into the nursing home business, looking after elderly,

0:22:19 > 0:22:22and I sold that business and I didn't know what I was going to do.

0:22:22 > 0:22:25But I went skiing, and I snapped the ligaments in my leg here,

0:22:25 > 0:22:28so the leg goes like that, goes all floppy.

0:22:28 > 0:22:32And so by the time they flew me back, did the operation,

0:22:32 > 0:22:34it was about six months' recovery period on my leg -

0:22:34 > 0:22:36I had to go and find a gym

0:22:36 > 0:22:42with a machine where you could put your leg in it, and you build up your leg like that to strengthen it.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44And I was sitting in the gym doing that,

0:22:44 > 0:22:47and as I was sitting there I'm counting the tiles on the ceiling

0:22:47 > 0:22:49so I knew how big this place was,

0:22:49 > 0:22:51- so I knew what it would cost to build it.- Yeah.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53I knew what the fees were, cos I was paying them...

0:22:53 > 0:22:57I knew how many members they had cos they were telling me so I'm calculating,

0:22:57 > 0:23:01"God, you could get about a 35% return on this."

0:23:01 > 0:23:03- Well, you're there with your leg...- Yeah!

0:23:03 > 0:23:07"35% return on this..."

0:23:07 > 0:23:09- That's exactly it, yeah!- Yeah.

0:23:09 > 0:23:12- And so you moved into that.- Yeah.

0:23:12 > 0:23:17- That was it.- You've certainly come a long way from that, though. My God. It just snowballed.- Yeah.

0:23:17 > 0:23:18I don't know how it happened!

0:23:18 > 0:23:21- Because you haven't got a stop button, surely.- Yeah.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23Well, I enjoy it, because...

0:23:23 > 0:23:26I always say to people who want to go into business,

0:23:26 > 0:23:27if you don't enjoy it, don't do it.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30- Yeah.- You've got to really enjoy it and live it.

0:23:36 > 0:23:40So, I want to look at the moment when we first saw

0:23:40 > 0:23:43the young - well, YOUNGER, let's say -

0:23:43 > 0:23:45Duncan Bannatyne...

0:23:45 > 0:23:47..on Dragons' Den.

0:23:47 > 0:23:49Looking for £150,000.

0:23:49 > 0:23:50This is the first series.

0:23:50 > 0:23:53When we first started out with the venture, the business...

0:23:55 > 0:23:58I can't do it. I'm going to start again. I'm going to compose myself.

0:23:58 > 0:24:01We're today here looking for £150,000.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04We'll be selling out the business in three to five years.

0:24:04 > 0:24:08- What kind of price?- It's going to be in the order of about 600 million.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11Oooh, you don't look happy, Duncan!

0:24:11 > 0:24:14That would be nice, if it was possible. I don't think it is. That's a bit...

0:24:14 > 0:24:16DUNCAN LAUGHS

0:24:16 > 0:24:18That's what our figures are showing us.

0:24:18 > 0:24:22That's based on unit sales of five million in the world market.

0:24:22 > 0:24:24I'd be willing to invest 50,000 for 5%.

0:24:24 > 0:24:26- I remember that. Saying that. - Do you?

0:24:26 > 0:24:27Can we confer quietly?

0:24:27 > 0:24:30Confer quietly or loudly, whatever you like.

0:24:30 > 0:24:32They start arguing with each other now.

0:24:32 > 0:24:35No, we might as well carry on going down the road we're going.

0:24:35 > 0:24:37- Sorry, but I mean...- OK, then.

0:24:37 > 0:24:40We have had the examiners' reports saying it IS possible.

0:24:40 > 0:24:42When you run out of money, give me a ring.

0:24:42 > 0:24:46So, how did you get the job on Dragons' Den? How did that come about?

0:24:46 > 0:24:48What they decided with Dragons' Den...

0:24:48 > 0:24:52There was a lot of big people like Richard Branson,

0:24:52 > 0:24:55and the guy who owns easyJet, things like that, they couldn't do it.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59So they decided to get five unknown people, and that's what they did.

0:24:59 > 0:25:00So they approached me.

0:25:00 > 0:25:03So I went down and met Peter Jones,

0:25:03 > 0:25:06Doug Richard and the other two,

0:25:06 > 0:25:11- and we sat there, we'd a little run through and it just felt pretty good.- Yeah.

0:25:11 > 0:25:16So how much has Dragons' Den impacted YOUR life?

0:25:16 > 0:25:20Well, I quit Dragons' Den last year because I've done 12 years.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22It was a great 12 years, it was great fun,

0:25:22 > 0:25:24but it was starting to define my life.

0:25:24 > 0:25:27And I didn't want my life to be defined by Dragons' Den.

0:25:27 > 0:25:29- Yeah.- And so I'm not doing it any more.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31But, yeah, it's changed it quite substantially because,

0:25:31 > 0:25:36you know, I meet people that I would never have met before.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39So what's the worst pitch you have ever seen on there?

0:25:39 > 0:25:41There was the cucumber cover.

0:25:41 > 0:25:44Cucumbers get dried at the end,

0:25:44 > 0:25:46so you put it in this, like, a condom

0:25:46 > 0:25:48and it saves it going dry.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51- Someone pitched that to you lot? - Yeah.

0:25:51 > 0:25:53I mean, how did you keep a straight face?

0:25:53 > 0:25:56I don't think we did. And then there was this other guy,

0:25:56 > 0:25:59and he was a Scotsman as well, and it was a single glove.

0:25:59 > 0:26:01- For people with one arm?- No!

0:26:01 > 0:26:04He said... And I can understand this problem

0:26:04 > 0:26:06cos I've been involved in it.

0:26:06 > 0:26:10He said when he drove... He drove regular on the Continent.

0:26:10 > 0:26:11So he drove over to the Continent,

0:26:11 > 0:26:14and he forgot to drive on the right-hand side of the road,

0:26:14 > 0:26:17so he had a car accident. A lot of people do.

0:26:17 > 0:26:20So what he did is he had a glove, so he wore the glove to remind him

0:26:20 > 0:26:23to drive on the right-hand side of the road.

0:26:23 > 0:26:26- And I said, "Well..." - That's a glove!

0:26:26 > 0:26:31"..when you come back, don't you forget to drive on the left-hand side?"

0:26:31 > 0:26:34He said, "Yes, so I've put two gloves in - a left one and a right one."

0:26:34 > 0:26:36He invented a pair of gloves!

0:26:36 > 0:26:40And he's trying to sell them at car ferries. A single glove.

0:26:40 > 0:26:42So what next for Duncan Bannatyne?

0:26:42 > 0:26:46I don't know, really. I...

0:26:46 > 0:26:50I'm recession-planning my company so that somebody can take it over when I'm gone.

0:26:50 > 0:26:53For my kids.

0:26:53 > 0:26:56And spending time with my six children and two grandchildren

0:26:56 > 0:26:59and just really enjoying life as much as I can.

0:27:04 > 0:27:06Have you enjoyed it today?

0:27:06 > 0:27:08Today, yes, absolutely fantastic.

0:27:08 > 0:27:10So what sort of stuff do you watch now?

0:27:10 > 0:27:13You know, what relaxes you at home watching telly?

0:27:13 > 0:27:15I love watching Coach Trip.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18- Oh, really?- Sad as it is, yeah.

0:27:18 > 0:27:19- Really?- Yeah.

0:27:19 > 0:27:23That's amazing. I wouldn't put you down as a man who watches...

0:27:23 > 0:27:26- Have you watched it? - Course I have. It's brilliant.

0:27:26 > 0:27:28You see them all fighting at the end

0:27:28 > 0:27:29- and stabbing each other in the back. - Yeah.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33So you're a keen viewer of that. You watch the odd bit of Corrie...

0:27:33 > 0:27:36- A bit of Corrie.- Duncan, I want to thank you. Have you enjoyed it?

0:27:36 > 0:27:38I've loved it, yes. Thanks for having me.

0:27:38 > 0:27:40Now, I give my guest

0:27:40 > 0:27:42an opportunity to pick a theme tune now to go out with.

0:27:42 > 0:27:44Is there any that you'd like to go out with?

0:27:44 > 0:27:47Well, you know, one of the greatest theme tunes was a programme...

0:27:47 > 0:27:51I don't watch it, I haven't watched it for ten years, but EastEnders.

0:27:51 > 0:27:52- Ah.- Boom, boom, boom...

0:27:52 > 0:27:55Now, I mean, famously in something like EastEnders,

0:27:55 > 0:27:58they have the doof doof moment, the cliffhanger, the big moment.

0:27:58 > 0:28:01In the style of Taggart, possibly, we need a cliffhanger.

0:28:01 > 0:28:06I would like you in Camera 1 just to say, in your Taggart voice,

0:28:06 > 0:28:07"There's been a murder."

0:28:07 > 0:28:09IMITATES TAGGART: There's been a murder!

0:28:09 > 0:28:12Hit us with those drums, Duncan!

0:28:12 > 0:28:13DOOF DOOF

0:28:13 > 0:28:15MUSIC: EastEnders Theme