0:00:02 > 0:00:04Telly - that magic box in the corner.
0:00:04 > 0:00:07It gives us access to a million different worlds
0:00:07 > 0:00:10all from the comfort of our sofa.
0:00:10 > 0:00:13In this series, I'm going to journey through the fantastic
0:00:13 > 0:00:17world of TV with some of our favourite celebrities.
0:00:17 > 0:00:21'They've chosen the precious TV moments that shed light...'
0:00:21 > 0:00:23- Love this.- She's beaten the panel.
0:00:23 > 0:00:24Look at that.
0:00:24 > 0:00:27'..on the stories of their lives.'
0:00:27 > 0:00:28Go on, champion. Go on, champion.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30It's like argh, urgh.
0:00:30 > 0:00:32'Some are funny...'
0:00:32 > 0:00:34Oh, quite amazing, unbelievable.
0:00:34 > 0:00:36No, no, no, Christina.
0:00:36 > 0:00:38'..some are surprising...'
0:00:38 > 0:00:40Paddington Bear.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42'..some are inspiring...'
0:00:42 > 0:00:43That's what kids should be doing now.
0:00:43 > 0:00:46A ten pence piece on a table with a bit of sticky tape.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48Look at that, stonking.
0:00:48 > 0:00:49'And many...'
0:00:49 > 0:00:51Some turtles capsize.
0:00:51 > 0:00:53'..are deeply moving.'
0:00:53 > 0:00:57I knew that we were in the presence of history.
0:00:57 > 0:01:02I'm crying, I actually broke down into tears after that.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05'So come watch with us, as we hand-pick the vintage telly
0:01:05 > 0:01:07'that helped turn our much-loved stars
0:01:07 > 0:01:09'into the people they are today.'
0:01:09 > 0:01:11Welcome to The TV That Made Me.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22My guest today has done it all.
0:01:22 > 0:01:24She's been an international model, a best selling author,
0:01:24 > 0:01:28a fashion designer and she even dances a mean tango.
0:01:28 > 0:01:32Some people, let's be honest, are just too talented.
0:01:32 > 0:01:37Oh, yes, today, the fabulous Jo Wood is joining me on my couch.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40And the TV that made her includes the woman who gave Britain
0:01:40 > 0:01:42the prawn cocktail...
0:01:42 > 0:01:44Which are made with a rather special kind of custard.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48..a few members of rock royalty on Top Of The Pops...
0:01:48 > 0:01:49# Wake up, Maggie
0:01:49 > 0:01:52# I think I got something to say to you... #
0:01:52 > 0:01:55..and one of Britain's best-loved funnymen.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57The other night I got mugged by a nun.
0:01:57 > 0:01:59LAUGHTER
0:01:59 > 0:02:00The one and only Jo Wood.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03- Jo.- Nice to be here.
0:02:03 > 0:02:07Are you excited about looking back on your past, your TV memories?
0:02:07 > 0:02:09Yeah, I really am, actually.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12Because it's not until you start thinking about it that you realise,
0:02:12 > 0:02:17"Oh, gosh, there's been a whole lot of TV."
0:02:17 > 0:02:18Well, today is...
0:02:18 > 0:02:21I mean, we've put together a selection of TV classics that
0:02:21 > 0:02:25you've chosen that put you on the path to who you are today.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28And we're going to start at the beginning,
0:02:28 > 0:02:33we're going to rewind the clock and go back to a very early Jo Wood.
0:02:33 > 0:02:38'In 1955, the year after rationing ended, Josephine Karslake,
0:02:38 > 0:02:41'AKA Jo Wood, was born.
0:02:41 > 0:02:47'She spent her early years in a redbrick council house in Basildon, Essex.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50'One of four children, she came from a creative family -
0:02:50 > 0:02:54'her father was an architectural model maker while her mum,
0:02:54 > 0:02:58'originally from South Africa, was both a doll maker and an Avon lady.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01'So perhaps it's no surprise she would grow up to have an
0:03:01 > 0:03:04'extraordinary life full of music and creativity.'
0:03:04 > 0:03:08How does it feel when you look back on those early years?
0:03:08 > 0:03:10It just seems like yesterday, really.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12Time goes so quickly.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14You look back and you see all those pictures.
0:03:14 > 0:03:18And you know, I remember some so clearly, especially the kids' ones,
0:03:18 > 0:03:20having that picture taken.
0:03:25 > 0:03:28Now, we're going to go onto your first choice now,
0:03:28 > 0:03:29which is your mum's choice.
0:03:29 > 0:03:31Yeah.
0:03:31 > 0:03:35Because your mum religiously used to watch this every week.
0:03:35 > 0:03:40I mean, my dad loved it as well, but mum loved, loved to watch her.
0:03:40 > 0:03:42- Shall we put people out of their misery?- Yeah.
0:03:42 > 0:03:45We're taking you back to 1966 and this is Fanny Cradock.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47Here she is.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50Adventurous cooking - cakes and puddings.
0:03:51 > 0:03:56So many people come back from holidays abroad with
0:03:56 > 0:04:01an absolute longing to make the delicious cakes and pastries...
0:04:01 > 0:04:04Fanny Cradock first arrived on our screens in 1955 and,
0:04:04 > 0:04:08being nothing short of fabulous, she soon became a regular fixture.
0:04:08 > 0:04:12You could build a whole programme around this particular basic.
0:04:12 > 0:04:14And she's got loads of make-up on.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20Amongst Fanny's other trademarks were her glitzy ballgowns.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23Not to mention the fact she often gave her recipes, some of which
0:04:23 > 0:04:26haven't quite passed the test of time,
0:04:26 > 0:04:28a fancy French name.
0:04:28 > 0:04:30I get the rest of the job over as quickly as possible
0:04:30 > 0:04:33with my old friend, the electric mixer.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36Yes, this was the TV cook who first brought us
0:04:36 > 0:04:38a touch of glamour into our kitchens.
0:04:38 > 0:04:41Get it beaten down and then I say,
0:04:41 > 0:04:45"Simon, will you please bring me half a pint of milk?"
0:04:45 > 0:04:47I mean, she really did revolutionise.
0:04:47 > 0:04:51I mean, she introduced to the nation a prawn cocktail.
0:04:51 > 0:04:52Did she?
0:04:52 > 0:04:53Yeah, that was all...
0:04:53 > 0:04:55Oh, my God. And I remember...
0:04:55 > 0:04:57I was going to go, "That's all Fanny's idea,"
0:04:57 > 0:04:59but I don't know if I can say that.
0:05:00 > 0:05:01You know?
0:05:02 > 0:05:07Well, I remember having a prawn cocktail back at home many
0:05:07 > 0:05:10years ago because my mum, being from South Africa,
0:05:10 > 0:05:13she loved exotic fruits.
0:05:13 > 0:05:14'One of the biggest influences
0:05:14 > 0:05:18'in Jo's life was the fact that her mum Rachel was from South Africa.
0:05:18 > 0:05:23'Rachel was of mixed race and came to Britain aged just 17 to
0:05:23 > 0:05:26'escape the racism she'd experienced at home.'
0:05:26 > 0:05:30Do you think that is why she wanted to leave South Africa?
0:05:30 > 0:05:33Yes, I know it's why she wanted to leave, because of the things
0:05:33 > 0:05:38like, you could go on a black bus, a coloured bus or
0:05:38 > 0:05:41a white bus, and she was only allowed on the coloured buses.
0:05:41 > 0:05:47And she thought that all that was so awful and when her sister went
0:05:47 > 0:05:51to England in the early '50s, I suppose,
0:05:51 > 0:05:53all she wanted to do was go
0:05:53 > 0:05:57and be in a country where you weren't judged like that.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59- And she found that here? - She found that here, yeah.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01Was it a real culture shock when she first got here?
0:06:01 > 0:06:03Yes, it really was.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06So, in those early days, growing up,
0:06:06 > 0:06:09that first decade, what was your lounge like?
0:06:09 > 0:06:14We had one of those chairs there, those bucket chairs.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17We had this mat, we actually had this very same mat.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19- We've made an effort, you know. - You have.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22And we had a rubber plant like that.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25- Is that what they're called - rubber plants?- A rubber plant, yeah.
0:06:25 > 0:06:29But she did try and make our home a bit South African.
0:06:29 > 0:06:35We actually had a big one of those on the wall.
0:06:35 > 0:06:38A big one of them. There you go. We've made an effort, ladies and gentlemen.
0:06:38 > 0:06:41And you know, I didn't really realise that my mother
0:06:41 > 0:06:43was from a country so far away.
0:06:43 > 0:06:47And is it true your dad made a cabinet for the telly?
0:06:47 > 0:06:49- That was the first telly.- Oh, right.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51The black-and-white telly.
0:06:51 > 0:06:55It was a wooden cabinet and it had a red curtain, and so you'd put...
0:06:55 > 0:06:56I love it, Jo.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59No, but the telly stood on top of the cabinet
0:06:59 > 0:07:03and underneath you'd open the curtain and you could store stuff.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06Oh, fair enough. I thought you meant you had a little curtain for the telly.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08Like at night, you'd just, let's just...
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- That would have been a good idea. - Mum and Dad could get a bit passionate,
0:07:11 > 0:07:14"Let's just pull the curtains on the telly, they might be looking at us."
0:07:14 > 0:07:17He might have made it for that, but it didn't fit in,
0:07:17 > 0:07:19so they had to put it on the top.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22I don't know, I'm only guessing that.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26Was your father passionate about telly, did he love his telly?
0:07:26 > 0:07:28Yes, he did love his telly.
0:07:28 > 0:07:33Especially, you know, we were one of the first people in the area to get the colour TV.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41Jo, we're going to show you something now
0:07:41 > 0:07:43- that I hope doesn't frighten you too much.- OK.
0:07:43 > 0:07:46It's The Prisoner.
0:07:46 > 0:07:48Oh, my God.
0:07:51 > 0:07:55I am not a number, I am a free man.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- Oh, he was so handsome, wasn't he? - Yeah.
0:07:58 > 0:08:01He could have been James Bond, couldn't he?
0:08:01 > 0:08:04Well, you would've liked to have been James Bond, yeah.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06'Although today both Patrick McGoohan and
0:08:06 > 0:08:08'The Prisoner have cult status,
0:08:08 > 0:08:12'when the programme first screened in 1967,
0:08:12 > 0:08:16many viewers were left just scratching their heads.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19'In broad strokes, this was the story of a spy who resigns,
0:08:19 > 0:08:23'is abducted and then finds himself in a strange village
0:08:23 > 0:08:26'where everyone has a number instead of a name.'
0:08:26 > 0:08:29BELL RINGING
0:08:29 > 0:08:30Did you understand it, though?
0:08:30 > 0:08:34Yeah, I couldn't understand how he really couldn't get out.
0:08:34 > 0:08:38I mean, it would set my mind going to making plans
0:08:38 > 0:08:40on how I would get out of there.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42Oh, really?
0:08:42 > 0:08:43Yeah, I used to love it.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47It used to really make my imagination go wild.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49What's the name of this place?
0:08:49 > 0:08:50- You're new here, aren't you?- Where?
0:08:50 > 0:08:52Do you want breakfast?
0:08:52 > 0:08:54'But even after the last episode was screened,
0:08:54 > 0:08:57'there were still more questions than answers,
0:08:57 > 0:09:01'prompting many viewers to call ITV demanding an explanation.'
0:09:01 > 0:09:03Well, there's a phone box round the corner.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05'Though in nearly 50 years since,
0:09:05 > 0:09:08'the village where it was filmed has become a popular tourist attraction.'
0:09:08 > 0:09:12Portmeirion, beautiful, beautiful place.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15I think a lot of people thought it was some sort of film set, but it was a real village.
0:09:15 > 0:09:18And I quite liked his little house that he lived in.
0:09:20 > 0:09:25See, it's your dad's architectural...ness coming out.
0:09:25 > 0:09:26Most probably.
0:09:26 > 0:09:31My dad also loved this programme and we would watch it together.
0:09:31 > 0:09:36But it was such an interesting idea.
0:09:41 > 0:09:46Les Dawson was a great favourite in our house.
0:09:46 > 0:09:50I think particularly because he played the piano so well badly.
0:09:51 > 0:09:55I love that. You could only say that about Les Dawson.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57"He played the piano so well badly."
0:09:57 > 0:09:58Yeah, he did and it worked.
0:09:58 > 0:10:01We've got a little clip of Les now. This I'm sure will bring
0:10:01 > 0:10:03back a few happy memories.
0:10:03 > 0:10:07The legendary Mr Les Dawson.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10APPLAUSE
0:10:10 > 0:10:14So serious as he sits down at the piano.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19LAUGHTER
0:10:22 > 0:10:24How stupid is that, really?
0:10:25 > 0:10:30'As well as playing the piano, as Jo puts it, "Well badly,"
0:10:30 > 0:10:34'Les Dawson was much-loved for his deadpan delivery.'
0:10:34 > 0:10:36Why you vicious...
0:10:36 > 0:10:38Ow!
0:10:38 > 0:10:40LAUGHTER
0:10:40 > 0:10:41That's good.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46The silly twit, honestly.
0:10:46 > 0:10:48The other night, my next door neighbour
0:10:48 > 0:10:50was banging on the wall with a hammer,
0:10:50 > 0:10:54screaming at the top of his voice at three o'clock in the morning.
0:10:54 > 0:10:56Thank God I wasn't asleep, I was playing my drums at the time.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58LAUGHTER
0:10:58 > 0:11:02I love all those one liners like that, that just keep coming.
0:11:02 > 0:11:03He used to write a lot of it,
0:11:03 > 0:11:05it was all his own stuff.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08I was going home the other night in my car, it's a new car,
0:11:08 > 0:11:12but the salesman said, "You'll get a lot of pleasure out of this," and it's true.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14It's a pleasure to get out of it.
0:11:14 > 0:11:18- So do you remember watching, sort of, Les with your mum and dad?- Yeah.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20I mean, it was more Dad that would sit
0:11:20 > 0:11:24and watch comedy, cos Mum was in the kitchen cooking.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26Yes.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30And so he'd be there chuckling away and I'd come in and say,
0:11:30 > 0:11:34"What are you watching, Dad?" Sit down with him.
0:11:34 > 0:11:38In his entertaining but ultimately unreliable autobiography,
0:11:38 > 0:11:40Les claimed he began his showbiz career
0:11:40 > 0:11:44playing the piano in a Parisian brothel.
0:11:44 > 0:11:45But whatever the real story,
0:11:45 > 0:11:48along with the one liners and the mother-in-law jokes,
0:11:48 > 0:11:52tinkling the ivories was always central to his act.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58PLAYS PIANO WITH MISTAKES
0:11:59 > 0:12:02LAUGHTER
0:12:02 > 0:12:05He must have been a very good piano player to be able to do that.
0:12:05 > 0:12:09Oh, yeah, Tommy Cooper was a good magician, you know?
0:12:09 > 0:12:13To play it bad you've got to know how to play it bad.
0:12:13 > 0:12:15I mean, do you play musical instruments?
0:12:15 > 0:12:18I went to piano for a year
0:12:18 > 0:12:22and only learnt one song called A Ramble,
0:12:22 > 0:12:25and I can still play it perfectly today.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28# Da, da, da, da, da-da, da-da, da... #
0:12:28 > 0:12:30- You know, I use all my fingers. - Oh!- Yeah.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33- So, it's not like uh-uh-uh-uh...- No!
0:12:33 > 0:12:35But my parents were very frustrated with me
0:12:35 > 0:12:38because they spent all that money on me learning piano
0:12:38 > 0:12:41and I just learnt ONE song.
0:12:41 > 0:12:43I learnt it for a lifetime.
0:12:48 > 0:12:52- We're moving on now, Jo, to biggest influence.- Yeah.
0:12:52 > 0:12:58This is something, a show that has been going for 64 years
0:12:58 > 0:13:02and it's something that very much influenced your future career.
0:13:03 > 0:13:06The oldest of the major beauty pageants,
0:13:06 > 0:13:09Miss World was originally a bikini contest
0:13:09 > 0:13:11which was dubbed Miss World by the media,
0:13:11 > 0:13:14though by its second year, 1952,
0:13:14 > 0:13:16the bikinis had been replaced
0:13:16 > 0:13:19with swimwear that was slightly more modest.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23..and Miss USA is Pamela Ford. She's a 20-year-old student...
0:13:23 > 0:13:28- I absolutely loved Miss World. - Uh-huh?
0:13:28 > 0:13:30Absolutely loved it.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33Miss Peru is Madeline Hartog-Bel.
0:13:33 > 0:13:37I sold my car to come to Europe a little while ago
0:13:37 > 0:13:42and now, I am here in England from winning a beauty contest...
0:13:42 > 0:13:451967, I would definitely have watched this.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49- Uh-huh?- Yeah, because it was about that time...
0:13:49 > 0:13:51that I...
0:13:51 > 0:13:55So, did you play that game where you want to try and pick the winner?
0:13:55 > 0:14:01Oh, yes, and I just loved the outfits - look at those earrings!
0:14:01 > 0:14:06- Yes.- Maybe that's what gave me my earring fetish that I have.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09Well, not a fetish, but, I mean, earring thing...
0:14:09 > 0:14:13- Obsession?- Obsession, yeah.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15- Look at those earrings, fab.- Yeah.
0:14:15 > 0:14:17Oh, look.
0:14:17 > 0:14:20Miss World 1967...
0:14:20 > 0:14:21Miss Peru.
0:14:21 > 0:14:23APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:14:23 > 0:14:24During the '60s and '70s,
0:14:24 > 0:14:28Miss World was one of the most watched shows on British television
0:14:28 > 0:14:30but, by the '80s,
0:14:30 > 0:14:33it was seen increasingly as being politically incorrect
0:14:33 > 0:14:37and it moved off our mainstream telly, but, love it or hate it,
0:14:37 > 0:14:41there's no denying its place in the history books.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44- Did you ever imagine that, "this could be me"?- I want...
0:14:44 > 0:14:47- Yes, I wanted...- As a young child, you're looking at that, 1967...
0:14:47 > 0:14:51- Oh, yeah. I would have loved that to have been me.- Yeah?
0:14:51 > 0:14:55Walking down there with that beautiful crown on and that cape,
0:14:55 > 0:14:58crying a few tears and...
0:14:58 > 0:15:01I actually did...
0:15:01 > 0:15:05At 14, my parents sent me to the London School of Modelling.
0:15:05 > 0:15:06Right.
0:15:06 > 0:15:11At the end, we had, a bit like that - a catwalk show.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16My mum made me my bikini, red bikini with white flowers on it.
0:15:16 > 0:15:19Then, she made me this dress,
0:15:19 > 0:15:21cos she was a great seamstress - IS a great seamstress -
0:15:21 > 0:15:25she made me this velvet dress with this knitted long...
0:15:25 > 0:15:29It was orange. It was a long dress, it was just like Miss World
0:15:29 > 0:15:35so I actually played out all of that on stage and I came second.
0:15:35 > 0:15:37- Well done!- Not bad, yeah.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41While Jo never made it to the real Miss World,
0:15:41 > 0:15:44she did pursue her dream of a modelling career
0:15:44 > 0:15:47and, at the age of 16, she left home for London,
0:15:47 > 0:15:49where her hard work eventually paid off
0:15:49 > 0:15:54and, in 1972, she was named Face Of The Sun.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58What was it like, this girl from Essex coming into the big smoke?
0:15:58 > 0:16:00It was wonderful, actually.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04It was everything that I imagined because I was very lucky,
0:16:04 > 0:16:08cos I did all the young, young magazines
0:16:08 > 0:16:12and commercials and stuff like that.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14- Yeah, I was lucky.- Uh-huh.
0:16:14 > 0:16:18I was 16 and there weren't many,
0:16:18 > 0:16:22especially at my agency, they were all very sort of catwalk models
0:16:22 > 0:16:25- and I was his only young bubbly...- Yeah.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27"Yoo-hoo, hello, Gavin!"...
0:16:27 > 0:16:29- And your parents were happy to bid you...- No.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31- ..for you to go, no?- Oh, no.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35- They hated it.- Really? - They were furious.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38At 16, BAM! I was out of school
0:16:38 > 0:16:41and I was at Gavin Robinson, Model Agency.
0:16:47 > 0:16:52We're going back to 1971 now, cos music is a big part of your life.
0:16:52 > 0:16:56- Yes.- We're going to have a little look at Top Of The Pops.
0:16:56 > 0:16:58Love Top Of The Pops, every Thursday night.
0:16:58 > 0:17:01- Here he is, there's Tony Blackburn. - Tony Blackburn!
0:17:01 > 0:17:04Rod Stewart and Maggie May. Do you remember it?
0:17:04 > 0:17:07MUSIC: Maggie May by Rod Stewart
0:17:07 > 0:17:09But I, I loved this song.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12I know all the words, actually.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14# Oh, Maggie... #
0:17:14 > 0:17:16I'm not a good singer.
0:17:16 > 0:17:18# Wake up, Maggie
0:17:18 > 0:17:21# I think I've got something to say to you... #
0:17:21 > 0:17:24Top Of The Pops first shimmied on to our screens
0:17:24 > 0:17:28on New Year's Day 1964, with an impressive line-up
0:17:28 > 0:17:31that included Dusty Springfield and The Hollies.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34So, was you ever on Top Of The Pops?
0:17:34 > 0:17:36- Yes!- Really?
0:17:36 > 0:17:40I went there when my first boyfriend, Tony Wilson,
0:17:40 > 0:17:43got tickets cos he knew how much I loved it.
0:17:43 > 0:17:48We went up to London and we went to the BBC...
0:17:48 > 0:17:52and...in that big room and it was...
0:17:52 > 0:17:56- I can't remember who was playing. - Uh-huh, how old was you?
0:17:56 > 0:17:58- 15½.- Oh, really, very young?
0:17:58 > 0:18:01Something like that, just before I left home,
0:18:01 > 0:18:04just before I started work. They came up to me and asked me
0:18:04 > 0:18:06if I'd like to stand on a podium and dance.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09Oh, because of your looks, because you looked so fantastic?
0:18:09 > 0:18:12- Well, I was a good dancer, obviously.- Well, good mover, yeah!
0:18:12 > 0:18:15Without a doubt, but you must have looked fantastic for them to go,
0:18:15 > 0:18:17- "Hey, hang on, we want you on a podium..."- I don't know.
0:18:17 > 0:18:19Yeah, must have done with my little hot pants on.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- So, you had your hot pants... - Yeah, and a stripy jumper
0:18:23 > 0:18:25- that my mum had knitted me on the knitting machine.- Yes.
0:18:25 > 0:18:27SHE LAUGHS
0:18:27 > 0:18:29# Oh, Maggie... #
0:18:29 > 0:18:32For this particular performance, Jo was watching at home,
0:18:32 > 0:18:34unaware Rod's backing band, The Faces,
0:18:34 > 0:18:38boasted her future husband, Rolling Stone Ronnie Wood.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40# But I'm as blind as a fool can be... #
0:18:40 > 0:18:44- I loved this song with a passion. - And who's that playing guitar?
0:18:44 > 0:18:46The old boy, eh?
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- God, when he was young.- Yeah.
0:18:48 > 0:18:49Look at him there.
0:18:49 > 0:18:51MUSIC CONTINUES
0:18:51 > 0:18:56The funny thing is I never noticed Ronnie, it was all about Rod.
0:18:56 > 0:19:00Yeah, so... You didn't register Ronnie when you watched this, then?
0:19:00 > 0:19:04- No.- No?- I don't remember looking at him and thinking,
0:19:04 > 0:19:06- "Oh, he's nice."- No?- Not at all.
0:19:06 > 0:19:10But I remember Rod so well.
0:19:10 > 0:19:11So, if someone had told you then
0:19:11 > 0:19:14that you would have been married to Ronnie Wood for 30 years,
0:19:14 > 0:19:15- would you have believed them?- No.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17- No?- Not at all, no.
0:19:17 > 0:19:19How did you meet?
0:19:19 > 0:19:24Erm, I met him at a party of a friend of mine, who was...
0:19:24 > 0:19:26It was his wedding party.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30I only went because they were renting me a room.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33I'd just been slung out of my flat and so I thought,
0:19:33 > 0:19:36"Oh, God, I've got to go."
0:19:36 > 0:19:40Walked in and it was everybody that I didn't know.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44Bill Wyman was there, Ronnie was there,
0:19:44 > 0:19:50Pattie Boyd was there and it was like, "Oh, gosh."
0:19:50 > 0:19:54He came up to me and he said, "Do you know who I am?"
0:19:54 > 0:19:59and showed me a Black And Blue album and I said, I thought,
0:19:59 > 0:20:01"He thinks the world of himself."
0:20:01 > 0:20:03Then he said, "What do you do for a living?"
0:20:03 > 0:20:07and I said, "I work in Woolworths on the broken biscuit counter,
0:20:07 > 0:20:09"main branch, Oxford Street."
0:20:09 > 0:20:13He went there with his chauffeur, looking for me.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16- What, like the next day or something?- Yeah, the next day.
0:20:16 > 0:20:19- Never been there in my life. - He never found you?
0:20:19 > 0:20:22No, he did find me because I'd then moved into that house
0:20:22 > 0:20:25and I obviously told him that I was going there
0:20:25 > 0:20:29and he came back with his chauffeur and he said,
0:20:29 > 0:20:31"You don't work in Woolworths."
0:20:31 > 0:20:34I said, "Why?" He said, "Cos I've just spent the afternoon
0:20:34 > 0:20:38"outside the main branch in Oxford Street."
0:20:38 > 0:20:40- Tick for Jo.- It was good.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43- And the rest is history? - And the rest is history.
0:20:45 > 0:20:48After their first meeting in 1977,
0:20:48 > 0:20:51Jo eventually became Ronnie's stylist and costume designer,
0:20:51 > 0:20:54often accompanying him on tour.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58Then, in 1985, they decided to tie the knot.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01How does someone like that propose?
0:21:01 > 0:21:03- Erm...- Is it very romantic?
0:21:03 > 0:21:06Erm, he proposed to me in Jamaica
0:21:06 > 0:21:09because Keith felt that it was time he married me...
0:21:11 > 0:21:12Make an honest woman of you, gal.
0:21:12 > 0:21:16..so I don't know if that was very romantic, really, no.
0:21:16 > 0:21:18Oh? Did he get down on one knee?
0:21:18 > 0:21:21No, he was sitting at the table, miserable.
0:21:23 > 0:21:26I said, "What is wrong with you?"
0:21:26 > 0:21:27He said, "Will you marry me?"
0:21:27 > 0:21:29I said, "Oh, all right, then."
0:21:29 > 0:21:32- Eh...- It was just like that.- Yeah?
0:21:32 > 0:21:36So were they 30 exciting, incredible, unbelievable years?
0:21:36 > 0:21:37Erm...
0:21:37 > 0:21:41- Yeah, you know, like every marriage, it has its ups and downs.- Uh-huh.
0:21:41 > 0:21:44Erm, but the majority of it -
0:21:44 > 0:21:48I loved going on tour, I loved travelling the world
0:21:48 > 0:21:51and I got great kids and...
0:21:51 > 0:21:54yeah, it was, it was... Most of it was a good marriage.
0:21:59 > 0:22:02- Jo, it's time now...- Yeah.
0:22:02 > 0:22:05just to sit back, put the kettle on, we've got a commercial break.
0:22:05 > 0:22:09- Oh, OK.- A classic, one of your classics.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12Here we are - one of mine, as well, without a doubt.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14Oh, I love this ad!
0:22:14 > 0:22:15What was the catchphrase?
0:22:15 > 0:22:18# For mash, get Smash! #
0:22:18 > 0:22:20On your last trip...
0:22:20 > 0:22:24Hailed as the second greatest ad ever by the Sunday Times,
0:22:24 > 0:22:27the ground-breaking use of puppets in Smash Martians
0:22:27 > 0:22:29was a gamble that truly paid off.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32..boil them for 20 of their minutes...
0:22:32 > 0:22:33While Cadbury wanted a campaign
0:22:33 > 0:22:36extolling the health benefits of Smash,
0:22:36 > 0:22:40they eventually agreed to this more humorous approach.
0:22:40 > 0:22:41Interestingly,
0:22:41 > 0:22:45it's the only non-sweet product Cadbury's ever done.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- Really?- Isn't that amazing?
0:22:47 > 0:22:50That is absolutely amazing. I didn't even...
0:22:50 > 0:22:53- I know, I know, I'm a font of information.- I didn't have any idea.
0:22:53 > 0:22:55They eat a great many of these...
0:22:55 > 0:22:59And so the Smash Martians became something of a cultural icon,
0:22:59 > 0:23:00smashing sales records
0:23:00 > 0:23:03and even creating a huge demand for merchandise.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06..then, they smash them all to bits!
0:23:06 > 0:23:08Love those aliens there
0:23:08 > 0:23:12and how they're talking about how backward we are
0:23:12 > 0:23:14cos we... "Peel the potatoes, ha-ha-ha-ha"...
0:23:14 > 0:23:18- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- "..smash them into pieces, ah-ha-ha-ha..."
0:23:18 > 0:23:23- I think it's great.- It's from 1974, that advert.- 1974!
0:23:23 > 0:23:27- And we still remember it vividly. - Such a brilliant, brilliant ad.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30- It is.- That is... - Yeah, but is it a brilliant ad...
0:23:30 > 0:23:32And I love the way they all start laughing,
0:23:32 > 0:23:34- the aliens all start laughing.- Yeah.
0:23:34 > 0:23:38Is that why it's a brilliant ad, because it's about aliens? UFOs?
0:23:38 > 0:23:42I'm slightly obsessed about aliens and UFOs.
0:23:42 > 0:23:44- Wooo! - SHE DOES AN EVIL LAUGH
0:23:44 > 0:23:45But you have been...
0:23:45 > 0:23:50You're adamant that there really is UFOs out there, that they do exist?
0:23:50 > 0:23:53Yeah, I saw a UFO in Recife,
0:23:53 > 0:23:57which is the furthermost point to the east of Brazil.
0:23:57 > 0:24:02I was there with Ronnie and the kids and I was packing
0:24:02 > 0:24:05cos we were leaving the next day to go back to London...
0:24:05 > 0:24:07Oh, go back to Sao Paulo.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10Ronnie said - cos he can't see distance - he goes,
0:24:10 > 0:24:13"Jo, come out here and have a look -
0:24:13 > 0:24:16"there's some weird lights over the sea."
0:24:16 > 0:24:19I thought, "What is he talking about?"
0:24:19 > 0:24:24I look out there and there was this thing hovering above the sea,
0:24:24 > 0:24:29but out quite far, with these lights that came down onto the sea.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32I said, "Go and get your glasses, Ronnie, go and get your glasses."
0:24:32 > 0:24:34He runs in and as I watched it,
0:24:34 > 0:24:37I was going, "What the hell is it? What the hell is it?"
0:24:37 > 0:24:39it went WHOOSH,
0:24:39 > 0:24:42- like that and stopped dead in its tracks...- Uh-huh.
0:24:42 > 0:24:44..and then went WHOOF, and it was gone,
0:24:44 > 0:24:48at the speed that I've never seen anything like it in my life.
0:24:48 > 0:24:52I stood there and went, "I've just seen a UFO."
0:24:52 > 0:24:55- There was nothing else...- In your heart of hearts, you believe that?
0:24:55 > 0:24:57- It couldn't have been anything else? - Absolutely, no.
0:24:57 > 0:25:00Next day, we got on the plane and we picked up the paper -
0:25:00 > 0:25:02I still have the clipping -
0:25:02 > 0:25:06and it says, "UFO invaders, Brasilia."
0:25:06 > 0:25:08- Hundreds of people had seen the same thing.- Oh...
0:25:08 > 0:25:10It was brilliant.
0:25:15 > 0:25:17What was your big telly break?
0:25:17 > 0:25:22I suppose my thing was when I went on to Strictly.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25- Yeah.- Yeah, I may not... - Shall we have a little look?
0:25:25 > 0:25:28- Oh, no! Don't show my useless dancing.- Why, why, why?
0:25:28 > 0:25:32- Oh...- Here we go, Jo Wood dancing.
0:25:32 > 0:25:35Strictly Come Dancing. You were fantastic.
0:25:35 > 0:25:36Dancing the rumba...
0:25:36 > 0:25:41The year was 2009 and Jo was partnered with Brendan Cole.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43- I loved Brendan. - You look nervous there, Jo.
0:25:43 > 0:25:46- I was absolutely petrified. - Petrified? Yeah.
0:25:48 > 0:25:52Oh, no, it's this one! This was the rumba.
0:25:52 > 0:25:55- You look fantastic.- Oh, my God!
0:25:55 > 0:26:00- Look at that figure, gal!- I hadn't done any TV in 30 years and it was...
0:26:01 > 0:26:03Oh, no!
0:26:03 > 0:26:07While Jo had rehearsed week after week to master those steps,
0:26:07 > 0:26:10unfortunately the judges weren't great fans of her work,
0:26:10 > 0:26:12though Craig went one step further,
0:26:12 > 0:26:16saying Jo danced like a bush kangaroo -
0:26:16 > 0:26:17ouch!
0:26:17 > 0:26:21- Aw...- I was so petrified, I couldn't remember the movements.
0:26:21 > 0:26:25# ..fallen for you... #
0:26:25 > 0:26:30How does it feel when the judges lay into you sometimes?
0:26:30 > 0:26:33You know, does it hurt, does it upset you?
0:26:33 > 0:26:37Well, it did hurt at first, and then I saw Craig in the bar.
0:26:37 > 0:26:41He said, "Darling, just remember - it's all theatre."
0:26:41 > 0:26:43- And I felt better about that. - Uh-huh.
0:26:43 > 0:26:48# I have fallen again. #
0:26:48 > 0:26:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:26:52 > 0:26:56We've spoken about, you know, what you've enjoyed.
0:26:56 > 0:27:00To bring you up-to-date, what do you enjoy now, you know?
0:27:00 > 0:27:02- I still love comedy.- Yeah?
0:27:02 > 0:27:07- Live At The Apollo, love Live At The Apollo.- Yeah.
0:27:07 > 0:27:11Actually, I went there not so long ago and saw it.
0:27:11 > 0:27:12Er...
0:27:12 > 0:27:17- I watch Britain's Got Talent.- Yeah. - Love Britain's Got Talent.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20- I watch cookery programmes.- Uh-huh.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22Er, erm...
0:27:22 > 0:27:27All sorts of them, all sorts of different ones and Ancient Aliens.
0:27:27 > 0:27:33So, really, my TV thing hasn't really changed,
0:27:33 > 0:27:35it's the same sort of thing really that I used to watch -
0:27:35 > 0:27:40comedy, food and science fiction or not.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43- Uh.- Yeah.- And, Jo, you've been a wonderful guest
0:27:43 > 0:27:45- and I want to thank you for coming on.- Thank you.
0:27:45 > 0:27:48It's nice to be here, I loved watching those bits of film.
0:27:48 > 0:27:50It is lovely, it's a nice trip down memory lane, isn't it?
0:27:50 > 0:27:54- Yeah.- I want you now to choose, as we do with each guest,
0:27:54 > 0:27:57a theme tune for us to go out on, to play out on.
0:27:57 > 0:28:01Is there anything, any choice whatsoever?
0:28:01 > 0:28:04- Erm, Bewitched.- Bewitched.- Yeah.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07So, we have been bewitched by the lovely Jo Wood
0:28:07 > 0:28:10and I hope you've enjoyed The TV That Made Me.
0:28:10 > 0:28:12Until next time, bye-bye.
0:28:12 > 0:28:15MUSIC: Theme from Bewitched by Howard Greenfield and Jack Keller