0:00:02 > 0:00:04Telly. That magic box in the corner.
0:00:04 > 0:00:07It gives us access to a million different worlds
0:00:07 > 0:00:10all from the comfort of our sofa.
0:00:10 > 0:00:13In this series, I'm going to journey through the fantastic world
0:00:13 > 0:00:16of TV with some of our favourite celebrities.
0:00:16 > 0:00:20They've chosen the precious TV moments that shed light...
0:00:20 > 0:00:22- Proper.- 'She seems like a nice girl, though.'
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Look at that.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26..on the stories of their lives.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29THEY SING
0:00:29 > 0:00:31Some are funny.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34- Could you do the chanting? - I could do... Mnum, mnum, mnum.
0:00:34 > 0:00:35Some...
0:00:35 > 0:00:36Amazing!
0:00:36 > 0:00:38..are surprising.
0:00:38 > 0:00:39I was mortified.
0:00:39 > 0:00:42Some are inspiring...
0:00:42 > 0:00:45I am not a number. I am a free man.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48- And many...- Did George Orwell get his predictions right?
0:00:48 > 0:00:49It's all so dramatic!
0:00:49 > 0:00:50..are deeply moving.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52Oh, no.
0:00:52 > 0:00:54'And heads down the beach towards almost certain death.'
0:00:54 > 0:00:56All of us, weeping.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00So come watch with us as we hand-pick the vintage telly
0:01:00 > 0:01:05that helped turn our much-loved stars into the people they are today.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07Welcome to the TV That Made Me.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20My guest today is one of the first people we see when we wake up.
0:01:20 > 0:01:24Carol Kirkwood has been brightening up our mornings come rain or
0:01:24 > 0:01:26shine for over a decade.
0:01:26 > 0:01:30The TV that made her includes a family game show...
0:01:30 > 0:01:33Could we have the scores on the doors, please?
0:01:33 > 0:01:34..a Scouse sitcom...
0:01:34 > 0:01:39- Do I ever ask you personal questions about your private life?- Yes.
0:01:39 > 0:01:41..and a kids' institution.
0:01:41 > 0:01:45My idea of this special treat is called scone pizza.
0:01:45 > 0:01:47It can only be the one and only,
0:01:47 > 0:01:52- the lovely Carol Kirkwood is with us today.- Hi, Brian.
0:01:52 > 0:01:53Are you excited about this?
0:01:53 > 0:01:57I am, I'm really looking forward to taking a wee jaunt down memory lane.
0:01:57 > 0:02:01That's what it is. Today is a collection of TV archives,
0:02:01 > 0:02:04things that you've enjoyed over the years but first up,
0:02:04 > 0:02:09we're going to rewind the clock and go back to the early Carol.
0:02:11 > 0:02:18Carol Kirkwood was born Carol MacKellaig on 29 May 1962
0:02:18 > 0:02:22in the remote rural village of Morar in the West Highlands of Scotland.
0:02:23 > 0:02:27Mum and Dad had their hands full with two sons, six daughters
0:02:27 > 0:02:29and a family business to run.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31My parents owned a hotel.
0:02:31 > 0:02:34It was only about four minutes' walk up the road, but we spent a lot of
0:02:34 > 0:02:38time in the hotel, and we used to play in the hotel car park on our bikes.
0:02:38 > 0:02:41With you talking about that hotel...
0:02:41 > 0:02:44You might find this a little bit interesting.
0:02:46 > 0:02:51'And then the manager will come out and welcome you all to Morar.'
0:02:51 > 0:02:52BAGPIPES PLAY
0:02:52 > 0:02:54That's Morar Hotel!
0:02:54 > 0:02:59'Here, too, is a piper to greet you after your second day's journey.
0:02:59 > 0:03:02'The hotel manager is on the doorstep to welcome you.'
0:03:02 > 0:03:04Oh, my goodness!
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- Oh...my...goodness! - How does it feel seeing it?- Lovely!
0:03:10 > 0:03:14- Oh, gosh, I spent years there. - That's not you on the left.
0:03:14 > 0:03:15SHE LAUGHS No.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18We used to love it when the coach drivers would come up
0:03:18 > 0:03:20because they would take us for a spin in their coach.
0:03:20 > 0:03:25- You'd be sitting there like wee girls.- So, is that...?- Oh, yes. Yes!
0:03:25 > 0:03:28That's what it was like. Look at the wallpaper and the carpets.
0:03:28 > 0:03:31- Oh, look at that fire. - That's what it was like!
0:03:31 > 0:03:34'The rooms look out at the dark islands of Rum and Eigg.'
0:03:34 > 0:03:38- Look at that view, Brian.- Oh, it's stunning.- Look at the bedspreads!
0:03:38 > 0:03:40HE LAUGHS
0:03:40 > 0:03:43You had these candlewick bedspreads too.
0:03:43 > 0:03:44We had so much freedom!
0:03:44 > 0:03:48Because you'd come home from school, dump your school bag, pick up
0:03:48 > 0:03:51your bike with your friends, swimming costume on, off to the beach.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54- It sounds to me like you didn't have much time to watch TV! - SHE LAUGHS
0:03:54 > 0:03:57Well, our TV was very much monitored.
0:03:57 > 0:04:01I know some children nowadays go in and just watch telly
0:04:01 > 0:04:04ad nauseam or watch it on their computer or whatever.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07It wasn't like that for us. We were very much outdoor kids
0:04:07 > 0:04:09and we'd play and make up games.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- Well, look at that. You had a chance to see...- Beautiful.
0:04:12 > 0:04:13..a beautiful setting.
0:04:13 > 0:04:16But I remember, at the corner of the hotel in the opening
0:04:16 > 0:04:18shot of that, there was a car parking space
0:04:18 > 0:04:19and my dad always parked there.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23And I was just little, wanted to learn to drive but was far too young.
0:04:23 > 0:04:25And so the hotel was on a slight slope,
0:04:25 > 0:04:27the car park was on a slight slope.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30So anyway, he had a Jag and I was sitting in the Jag,
0:04:30 > 0:04:32pretending to drive, turning the steering wheel.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35I'd seen Dad taking the handbrake off often.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38I took the handbrake off, didn't know how to put it back on,
0:04:38 > 0:04:42as the car and me slid slowly smack into the wall.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44Couldn't sit down for two weeks.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47- Dad was gutted! Bless him.- Oh...
0:04:52 > 0:04:57Your biggest influence, Carol, stems back to 1973.
0:04:57 > 0:05:02I'm not going to say any more. We're going back to 1973.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05Princess Anne, as she walks down the aisle of Westminster Abbey
0:05:05 > 0:05:07- to marry Captain Mark Phillips. - Oh, my goodness.
0:05:07 > 0:05:11- Now, you were a huge fan. - I was, I loved Blue Peter.
0:05:11 > 0:05:13..The Royal Military School of Music.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16We used to watch this all the time.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18You'd come in from whatever you were doing.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20If you were outside playing, you'd come in and watch Blue Peter.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23If you were outside crashing the car, you'd think,
0:05:23 > 0:05:25"You know what? I'd better go in now, it's Blue Peter!"
0:05:25 > 0:05:26I'm in enough trouble.
0:05:26 > 0:05:30There are an estimated 500 million people going to be watching
0:05:30 > 0:05:32the royal wedding on Wednesday and amongst them, there's going to be
0:05:32 > 0:05:35an awful lot of children, because the Queen...
0:05:35 > 0:05:37I remember actually watching this particular one.
0:05:37 > 0:05:39Look at the sets.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Gosh, it looks so sparse.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43Launched in 1958,
0:05:43 > 0:05:47Blue Peter is the world's longest-running children's programme.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49Not bad for a show that was designed to fill a six-week
0:05:49 > 0:05:51gap in the schedule.
0:05:51 > 0:05:55It blazed the trail for TV shows to break out of the studio
0:05:55 > 0:05:58and use BBC TV Centre as a location,
0:05:58 > 0:06:02prompting a stern memo from the then BBC management
0:06:02 > 0:06:06that read, "Television Centre is not a place of entertainment."
0:06:06 > 0:06:07Have a listen to what Johnny's got to say
0:06:07 > 0:06:10because he's got rather a good idea for something to do.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13Dead right, there. My idea is to give your mum a holiday too.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16Tell her you'll cook her a special treat when she puts her feet up
0:06:16 > 0:06:18on Wednesday morning to watch the television.
0:06:18 > 0:06:19I loved John Noakes.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22So did I, you never knew what he was going to do next.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25- And he always got so many things wrong.- I know, that was his charm.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27Look at the state of that!
0:06:27 > 0:06:29I loved, "Here's one we prepared earlier."
0:06:29 > 0:06:31Oh, that's where it first started.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- A lovely smell.- We smelt it. - Is it done?- Is that why you're here?
0:06:34 > 0:06:37- I haven't had any lunch. - Can you pass the knife?
0:06:37 > 0:06:39- Is this the sort of thing you would have made?- Yes.- Really?
0:06:39 > 0:06:42I wouldn't have done it regularly but because they made it
0:06:42 > 0:06:45on Blue Peter, it would be, "Let's have a bash at doing this."
0:06:45 > 0:06:47I didn't make everything they made,
0:06:47 > 0:06:49but they always had the sticky-back plastic
0:06:49 > 0:06:52and the loo rolls and the empty washing-up liquids.
0:06:52 > 0:06:55And they are making this for the royal wedding,
0:06:55 > 0:06:59- so that they can eat this... - Which is exactly what we did.
0:06:59 > 0:07:00With the scones?
0:07:00 > 0:07:03Yeah, we made them and we sat down... I remember it so well.
0:07:03 > 0:07:04The sun was shining,
0:07:04 > 0:07:08we drew the blinds, watched it on the telly with our scones.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13Blue Peter is also renowned for its cast of animals.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17Each year, young tortoise owners were reminded how to safely
0:07:17 > 0:07:20prepare their four-legged friends for winter,
0:07:20 > 0:07:23usually with the show's longest-serving pet, Freda,
0:07:23 > 0:07:27who stayed with the show for 16 years.
0:07:27 > 0:07:33She first appeared in 1963 as Fred until they realised he was a she.
0:07:34 > 0:07:39So, was Blue Peter something that made you want to be a presenter?
0:07:39 > 0:07:43- Yes.- Really?- I wanted to be a Blue Peter presenter full stop,
0:07:43 > 0:07:45but I was so shy.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48Is it still an ambition to be a Blue Peter presenter?
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Gordon MacKenzie Highlander,
0:07:50 > 0:07:52I would be like the granny on that programme!
0:07:52 > 0:07:57- I think you could earn a gold Blue Peter badge today.- Yeah?
0:07:57 > 0:08:01What I've got planned for you... This is a classic,
0:08:01 > 0:08:04a moment that every year on Blue Peter they would do
0:08:04 > 0:08:08and present to the children, and of course this is your chance
0:08:08 > 0:08:12to do that and I have a couple of things to get for you.
0:08:12 > 0:08:16- I'm feeling very nervous now, Brian. - Don't feel nervous.- Eek!
0:08:16 > 0:08:20First of all, I would like to introduce you to Trevor.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- That's not real, is it?- Yeah. - Seriously?
0:08:24 > 0:08:28- Just put him on your lap there. - Hello, Trevor!
0:08:28 > 0:08:31And we are going to hibernate him.
0:08:31 > 0:08:34Oh, I can feel his leg moving on my leg!
0:08:34 > 0:08:35Oh, it's quite tickly!
0:08:35 > 0:08:38- Trevor, you're tickling me! - So, we're going to... We're going to put...
0:08:38 > 0:08:40- We're going to hibernate him. - CAROL GASPS
0:08:40 > 0:08:42So, you have to take this box
0:08:42 > 0:08:44- that is big enough for him to turn around in...- Yeah.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47- Oh, Trevor! - ..fill it with shredded paper...
0:08:47 > 0:08:52And this is yours. I will hold on to Trevor while you now
0:08:52 > 0:08:56- present the rest of this moment to earn your gold Blue Peter badge.- OK.
0:08:56 > 0:08:57OK, well, first of all,
0:08:57 > 0:09:00Trevor, I hope that you are going to enjoy your bed.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Some very nice bedding here for you.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05We've put this through a shredder, it's all confidential,
0:09:05 > 0:09:07you can't see anything from it.
0:09:07 > 0:09:08- No.- So, Trevor, I'm just going to make...
0:09:08 > 0:09:10- Very important, data protection. - Yep...
0:09:10 > 0:09:13CAROL LAUGHS Absolutely.
0:09:13 > 0:09:15Spreading this out, nice and evenly.
0:09:15 > 0:09:16HE MOUTHS Yeah.
0:09:16 > 0:09:18- It's going all over the place, Trevor.- Nice.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20But we want to make a nice little...
0:09:20 > 0:09:23I'll make it nice and soft in the middle, particularly, a little...
0:09:23 > 0:09:25A little bit of a hollow for Trevor to sit in.
0:09:25 > 0:09:26Yes, a little bit of a hollow.
0:09:26 > 0:09:29- Note the hollow. That's very good, you know.- Yeah, so that...
0:09:29 > 0:09:30Yeah, you've sold it for me.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33Right, Trevor, how deep would you like your bed?
0:09:33 > 0:09:35- Um, I think one more and that should do.- One more? OK.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39Do we now place Trevor in, Blue Peter presenter?
0:09:39 > 0:09:41Yes, well, has he got anything else that can go in with him,
0:09:41 > 0:09:43- or is this it? - Well, what, like, a cuddly toy?
0:09:43 > 0:09:46What do you mean? I don't know, he doesn't need anything else.
0:09:46 > 0:09:47Oh, Trevor, little man!
0:09:47 > 0:09:50I like the way you're stroking him. He can't feel anything, it's...
0:09:50 > 0:09:53I know, I don't like to touch him in case I scare him, though.
0:09:53 > 0:09:54Oh, why are you going to scare him, Carol?
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- Oh, you're a good boy, aren't you? Look at you!- Ooh...
0:09:57 > 0:09:59There you are, I'll let you place him into the box.
0:09:59 > 0:10:00OK, Trevor, come on, we're going in.
0:10:00 > 0:10:02- In you go, wee man.- And now...
0:10:02 > 0:10:05There you go! Watch your wee leggies.
0:10:05 > 0:10:07- There you go!- So, we have to... And then we have to...
0:10:07 > 0:10:08- All settled.- Oh...
0:10:11 > 0:10:14This is a true Blue Peter moment.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19- Look at that.- This is a little...
0:10:19 > 0:10:20A little message from Trevor.
0:10:20 > 0:10:23CAROL LAUGHS
0:10:23 > 0:10:26- Oh!- But a good Blue Peter presenter will always carry on
0:10:26 > 0:10:28in the face of adversity.
0:10:28 > 0:10:30Carol, you hold them because my hand's a bit messy.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33Look at him, he's looking out, "Now, what are you laughing at?"
0:10:33 > 0:10:35We have to punch some holes in here. I need a dry-clean.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38If you've got to go, Trevor, you've got to go.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41BRIAN SIGHS OK. How many... Three on each side?
0:10:41 > 0:10:43Yeah. And just maybe a few on top there, that's it.
0:10:43 > 0:10:45You're OK, Trevor.
0:10:45 > 0:10:46And, um...
0:10:46 > 0:10:49And, of course, then you put a bit of gaffer tape over it and...
0:10:49 > 0:10:51Yeah, and Bob's your uncle. Trevor's your uncle.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53Congratulations, well done,
0:10:53 > 0:10:55I think you've earned your gold Blue Peter badge.
0:10:55 > 0:10:56Thank you.
0:10:56 > 0:10:59In the... No, it's all right, it's the other hand!
0:10:59 > 0:11:01THEY LAUGH
0:11:01 > 0:11:03Thank you, Brian.
0:11:03 > 0:11:06- Oh, let's watch something else, we need to escape from all of this. - Aww!
0:11:07 > 0:11:09Thanks to Blue Peter,
0:11:09 > 0:11:12the only thing harmed there was maybe a bit of my pride.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:11:22 > 0:11:24Thank you.
0:11:24 > 0:11:25Oh, I used to love this!
0:11:25 > 0:11:28Do you know, every Saturday, the television on,
0:11:28 > 0:11:31everybody sitting down, The Generation Game on, loved it.
0:11:31 > 0:11:32Yeah.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36In the '70s, traditional variety shows fell out of favour
0:11:36 > 0:11:39and TV bosses were on the hunt for something new.
0:11:39 > 0:11:41And could we have the scores on the doors, please?
0:11:41 > 0:11:46Step forward Bruce Forsyth with his Generation Game.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50It fast became one of the biggest game shows of the decade.
0:11:50 > 0:11:55When Larry Grayson took the helm in 1978, it seemed unstoppable.
0:11:55 > 0:11:57In 1979, at its peak,
0:11:57 > 0:12:02the show entertained 25 million people of all generations.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04- Larry was so funny. - He was so endearing.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06You never knew what the devil was going to happen
0:12:06 > 0:12:09- and he was on with Isla...St Clair, wasn't he?- Yeah.
0:12:09 > 0:12:11Please meet Miss Isla St Clair.
0:12:11 > 0:12:13And look at Isla's dresses.
0:12:13 > 0:12:15APPLAUSE
0:12:15 > 0:12:20Did you always want to be Isla St Clair?
0:12:20 > 0:12:22- No, I wanted to be a contestant on this.- Oh, right.
0:12:22 > 0:12:25I loved the way that they would be killing themselves laughing,
0:12:25 > 0:12:28so if they were making something with pottery, for example, and you know
0:12:28 > 0:12:31how you have to keep your hands on it as it spins, or it'll go choooww?
0:12:31 > 0:12:33- Yeah.- If you take your hands off it...- Oh, here they go.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36I say, I wouldn't like to stick a chocolate flake amongst this lot!
0:12:36 > 0:12:38LAUGHTER
0:12:38 > 0:12:41It always ended up a right old mess, didn't it?
0:12:41 > 0:12:45But Larry was so camp around the whole thing, which made it.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47I know, I know.
0:12:47 > 0:12:49- You are doing well, Fred.- Fred?
0:12:49 > 0:12:50Fred, Joe.
0:12:50 > 0:12:52Look at that, though!
0:12:52 > 0:12:53Oh, look at the mess.
0:12:53 > 0:12:55Look at the mess!
0:12:55 > 0:12:57And you'd be sitting at home thinking,
0:12:57 > 0:12:58"I could do better than that!"
0:12:58 > 0:13:01I love, more and more, Larry Grayson, as I've got older.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03- I just think he was so...- So funny.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05- He was. - MIMICS LARRY:- "And you know..."
0:13:05 > 0:13:08- But he was also... He was caring as well, you felt you knew him.- Mm.
0:13:08 > 0:13:10- You thought, "Oh, Larry, bless you." - Yeah.
0:13:10 > 0:13:12He was that kind of person.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15Bruce had a slickness, but there was...there was...
0:13:15 > 0:13:18It was just chaotic, you know, it was.
0:13:18 > 0:13:19- With Larry, I know.- Yeah.
0:13:19 > 0:13:22But remember the conveyor belt and they'd be trying to help him?
0:13:22 > 0:13:24"Have you said a cuddly toy? Have you said a cuddly toy?"
0:13:24 > 0:13:26- "Yes, I've said a cuddly toy."- Yeah.
0:13:26 > 0:13:27Cos that was always there. But the Teasmade,
0:13:27 > 0:13:31the electric blankets, the candlewick cover for your bed,
0:13:31 > 0:13:34all the things that were trendy in those days, maybe a radio.
0:13:34 > 0:13:39What else did they have? Cutlery and vases and glasses and all of that.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41- MIMICS BUZZER:- You've won! - CAROL LAUGHS
0:13:41 > 0:13:43- You won, Carol, all right? - I loved it.- What did you get?
0:13:43 > 0:13:47The Hoover, the shaver, the electric drill, the blanket, the cuddly toy...
0:13:52 > 0:13:54So, we're going to move on to comedy heroes
0:13:54 > 0:13:57and I'm going to take you now back to 1973.
0:13:57 > 0:13:58- 1973?- Yeah.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00- I was 11.- Aww!
0:14:00 > 0:14:02It's going back to the days of bows and arrows.
0:14:02 > 0:14:06Fancy spending Friday night on me own.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08CAROL GASPS The Liver Birds!
0:14:08 > 0:14:09BRIAN HUMS THEME TUNE
0:14:09 > 0:14:13Me, with all the talent, it's a sheer waste of woman.
0:14:13 > 0:14:14They were so funny.
0:14:14 > 0:14:17Didn't you just love the way that Sandra was, like,
0:14:17 > 0:14:18"Oh, I've found a new man,"
0:14:18 > 0:14:22- and Beryl was so matter-of-fact about the whole thing?- Yeah.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24- Hi, Beryl!- Hello.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- Have a nice evening?- Ecstatic.
0:14:27 > 0:14:30I've had four showers and half a gallon of cocoa.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- I had a fabulous time. - Where did you go?
0:14:34 > 0:14:36No, Paul and I stayed in.
0:14:36 > 0:14:40- Ooh, did you now?- Yeah, we wanted to see the play on the telly.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42Of course you did, love.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44I found it hilarious, I loved it.
0:14:44 > 0:14:45I just loved the characters.
0:14:45 > 0:14:47- The characters.- I loved them both.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50- Beryl, I loved her sense of humour. - Mm-hm.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53- And Sandra, she was just like your big sister, wasn't she?- Yeah.
0:14:53 > 0:14:55She was really nice.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58I loved seeing their fashions, though, because they had white
0:14:58 > 0:15:01boots, knee-length white boots and you'd think, "Wow, look at them!"
0:15:01 > 0:15:02Look, she's got 'em on there.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06Beryl! Do I ever ask you personal questions about your private life?
0:15:06 > 0:15:07Yes.
0:15:07 > 0:15:09When you brought that fella back last week,
0:15:09 > 0:15:11did I ask what you were doing on the sofa?
0:15:11 > 0:15:14You didn't have to, this sofa gives its own running commentary.
0:15:16 > 0:15:19Four twangs and a boing and me secrets are out.
0:15:19 > 0:15:21No, that was really good, that was good fun.
0:15:21 > 0:15:23So, which one of them was closest to you?
0:15:23 > 0:15:25Which one of those two characters was closest to Carol?
0:15:25 > 0:15:28I would like to say Sandra, but it was probably Beryl!
0:15:28 > 0:15:33The Liver Birds was often seen as a female version of The Likely Lads
0:15:33 > 0:15:38and was co-created by one of TV's most successful writers.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41Carla Lane would become the first woman to create
0:15:41 > 0:15:43hugely popular sitcoms.
0:15:43 > 0:15:48She scored her first solo hit in 1978 with Butterflies, casting
0:15:48 > 0:15:51Wendy Craig as the frustrated stay-at-home wife
0:15:51 > 0:15:53to Geoffrey Palmer.
0:15:53 > 0:15:57She went on to write love affair drama, Solo, in 1981
0:15:57 > 0:16:02and The Mistress in 1985, both starring Felicity Kendal.
0:16:02 > 0:16:07In 1985, she wrote I Woke Up One Morning about four alcoholics
0:16:07 > 0:16:11trying to quit the drink, starring Jean Boht, who went on to star as
0:16:11 > 0:16:15Nellie Boswell in the smash-hit sitcom Bread.
0:16:15 > 0:16:16So, Carol, watching The Liver Birds,
0:16:16 > 0:16:19did it make you want to live in the city?
0:16:19 > 0:16:22I always wanted to live in the city, not necessarily Liverpool,
0:16:22 > 0:16:25although I've been to Liverpool many times.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27Edinburgh or London were my cities of choice
0:16:27 > 0:16:29and I did end up living in both.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31Yes, because it seemed so glamorous -
0:16:31 > 0:16:35- the styles, the opportunities and everything else.- Yeah.
0:16:35 > 0:16:36So, yes, it did.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39And when I was growing up, you know, it was beautiful
0:16:39 > 0:16:41and I appreciate it as an adult, but as a child,
0:16:41 > 0:16:44you did all the outdoor things like going a bike, cycling, and so on...
0:16:44 > 0:16:46Yeah, I mean, you had an idyllic childhood.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49Yes, but it didn't have cinemas and things like that.
0:16:49 > 0:16:51The disco was in the local hall, for example,
0:16:51 > 0:16:54so it wasn't a discotheque, as they were called in those days.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57Did you eventually get a pair of knee-high white boots?
0:16:57 > 0:16:59No, I got knee-high black ones, though.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02Let's not go there, Carol, let's move on.
0:17:08 > 0:17:10Carol, what was it your mum and dad loved to watch?
0:17:10 > 0:17:14A whole host of things, but again, it is Saturday night viewing -
0:17:14 > 0:17:16- Blankety Blank with Terry Wogan.- Oh!
0:17:16 > 0:17:18They were big fans of Terry Wogan.
0:17:18 > 0:17:20So I'm going to take you back there now,
0:17:20 > 0:17:23to your parents' choice - Blankety Blank.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25APPLAUSE
0:17:25 > 0:17:28Good evening and welcome.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30Now, who have we here that we haven't had before?
0:17:30 > 0:17:31- Me, sir.- You, sir?
0:17:31 > 0:17:33- Yes, me, sir.- Wee Joe Brown.
0:17:33 > 0:17:34Yes, sir.
0:17:34 > 0:17:38- Do you know, the star of this was the microphone, wasn't it?- Oh...
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- They loved that.- Yeah, they did too.
0:17:41 > 0:17:43Said Biggles, "By Jove,
0:17:43 > 0:17:47"flying in an open biplane is an exhilarating experience."
0:17:47 > 0:17:51- Very good that, isn't it? - Yes, very good, yes, carry on.
0:17:51 > 0:17:54"Why, the wind almost blew my BLANK off."
0:17:55 > 0:17:57Do you know, this takes me back.
0:17:57 > 0:17:59We'd all be sitting round, you know,
0:17:59 > 0:18:02watching the telly, and it was - shhh,
0:18:02 > 0:18:06silence whilst we watched this and listened to what Terry's saying.
0:18:06 > 0:18:08But it was so funny and some of the answers they gave,
0:18:08 > 0:18:10and you'd play along with them as well.
0:18:10 > 0:18:11- Goggles?- Goggles.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14I thought from the old days they would always wear one of these?
0:18:14 > 0:18:15Yes, wig.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16BUZZER
0:18:16 > 0:18:19It's amazing when you look at it and you see all the hairdos,
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- which were trendy at the time.- Yeah.
0:18:22 > 0:18:24Well, I copied Norman and I had toupee, but...
0:18:24 > 0:18:26- Goggles!- I had goggles.
0:18:26 > 0:18:28BUZZER, APPLAUSE
0:18:28 > 0:18:31But some of the things they came out with were so random,
0:18:31 > 0:18:33you know, "What?!"
0:18:33 > 0:18:35Come on, handsome. Pants, you had.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37LAUGHTER
0:18:37 > 0:18:39"Almost blew my pants off"? Some wind!
0:18:39 > 0:18:43You wonder how long it took to film this with all the laughter and everything.
0:18:43 > 0:18:44Mm.
0:18:45 > 0:18:49She's gone with goggles. I think... Well done, Lynsey.
0:18:49 > 0:18:51Terry was brilliant as well, he's got the gift of the gab.
0:18:51 > 0:18:53Yeah, there's a real art to it.
0:18:53 > 0:18:57I mean, he's got a lot going on there - he's got six celebrities, he's got the contestants.
0:18:57 > 0:19:00Well, there you are, Connie, two points is as good as anything on this show.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02They had the Supermatch Game which used to finish it,
0:19:02 > 0:19:05and I bet you always wished you could play that, didn't you?
0:19:05 > 0:19:06- Yes, yes!- Good.- Oh, no!
0:19:06 > 0:19:08Good.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11- And here it is. Here it is. - Brilliant.
0:19:11 > 0:19:15So, look, I've even got a... I'm not quite sure what it is.
0:19:15 > 0:19:16Looks like a drumstick.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18It is, actually, you know, we've adapted that.
0:19:18 > 0:19:20But it's good, it's good.
0:19:20 > 0:19:23So, we are going with the theme of you being the gorgeous,
0:19:23 > 0:19:26lovely weather lady that you are. Snow.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29So, what do we think it is? What do we think that is?
0:19:29 > 0:19:30What do you want to put in there?
0:19:30 > 0:19:33- Shower.- Snow shower?
0:19:33 > 0:19:36I'm like as if I think that this works, I can't believe...
0:19:36 > 0:19:38I want to say Snow White, in all honesty,
0:19:38 > 0:19:42- but sticking with the weather theme, I'm going to say snow shower. - Whoa...
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- Let's see. So. This is for one point.- Yeah.
0:19:46 > 0:19:51- We did ask 100 people to supply this...missing word.- OK.
0:19:51 > 0:19:54- You are saying...remind me again? - Snow shower.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57OK, let's see if you get... Snow shower?
0:19:57 > 0:20:02- BRIAN GASPS - Snow White, which was, of course, your first answer there.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- Ooh.- Gasps of awe from Carol.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08Number two, sno-o-o-ow...
0:20:08 > 0:20:10Plough?
0:20:10 > 0:20:11Man! Oh!
0:20:11 > 0:20:16- Yeah. So we are hoping that this is snow... Remind me again?- Showers.
0:20:16 > 0:20:18- CAROL GASPS - Snowball!
0:20:18 > 0:20:21- So you are completely wrong.- Gutted!
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- Well, commiserations. - I'm rubbish at all the games on this show, aren't I?
0:20:24 > 0:20:28- Uh, no, you're not. Yes, you are. - Yes, I am.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32I would like to give you a consolation prize,
0:20:32 > 0:20:35something that you can take home with you and here it is.
0:20:35 > 0:20:39I've always wanted one of these. Thank you very much, Brian.
0:20:39 > 0:20:41- It's a pleasure!- I love it.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49Carol, we're moving on to your guilty pleasure now,
0:20:49 > 0:20:53something that you would not ever miss.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55That has to be Starsky & Hutch.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59- Oh, you betcha!- Oh, I loved this!
0:20:59 > 0:21:02STARSKY & HUTCH THEME TUNE PLAYS
0:21:02 > 0:21:05- Look at that car.- Look at that car, look at it, it takes the corner...
0:21:05 > 0:21:07I know, typical bloke, ain't I? "Look at the car!"
0:21:07 > 0:21:11And the way they fall over the bonnet. Especially Hutch. Phwoar!
0:21:11 > 0:21:14- You had a soft spot for Hutch? Really?- Yes.
0:21:14 > 0:21:19In the 1970s, cop shows didn't come much cooler than this.
0:21:19 > 0:21:23David Starsky and Kenneth Hutch skidded their way around
0:21:23 > 0:21:29Bay City, California, catching bad guys in their iconic Gran Torino.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32The series caught the mood of the decade with its fashionable
0:21:32 > 0:21:35flares and funky soundtrack.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41Do you know, I used to wash my hair before this came on every week.
0:21:41 > 0:21:44I'm going to have to hold you back, you are nearly in the telly here!
0:21:44 > 0:21:45But it is the middle of the show!
0:21:45 > 0:21:47Well, at least I can hear the end of the game on the radio.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49Hey, listen, listen...
0:21:49 > 0:21:52- Before the show went on...- Yeah, I can't take my eyes off this, sorry.
0:21:52 > 0:21:55- ..you used to wash your hair?- Yes.
0:21:55 > 0:21:57PEOPLE SCREAM
0:21:57 > 0:21:58Just...just in case. Just in case.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02- In some weird world that I lived in as a child...- Uh-huh.
0:22:02 > 0:22:06..David Soul could actually see me and see that I had washed my hair!
0:22:06 > 0:22:09- Aww!- I adored him.- Yeah?
0:22:09 > 0:22:12And if anybody spoke when he was on, it was like, "No, please don't."
0:22:18 > 0:22:20- And he was just such a hero.- Mm.
0:22:20 > 0:22:24He was all man, there was nothing he couldn't do.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30He was brave, he was powerful, he was handsome.
0:22:30 > 0:22:32He was funny and he was so cool.
0:22:32 > 0:22:37Yeah, Carol, calm down, love. Calm down. Even I fancy him.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39CAROL LAUGHS
0:22:48 > 0:22:51What did you think of the other characters in it and Huggy Bear?
0:22:51 > 0:22:53Huggy Bear was really cool as well, you know, he was all, sort of,
0:22:53 > 0:22:56shrugging his shoulders as he was walking along and...
0:22:56 > 0:22:58Starsky was too, Starsky was always eating, wasn't he,
0:22:58 > 0:23:00in his big long cardigans and things?
0:23:00 > 0:23:06But he was cool too, but David was the epitome of perfection for me.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11- Don't stand there with your mouth open, cuff him.- Oh.
0:23:14 > 0:23:18See? So cool, took command of the whole situation, real he-man.
0:23:18 > 0:23:21Lines like that, "Don't stand there and look at him, cuff him," you know?
0:23:21 > 0:23:24You are very good at that, actually, Brian.
0:23:24 > 0:23:26- Do you think so?- Yeah, yeah. - Thank you very much.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35We've reached the point where we want to talk about your big break,
0:23:35 > 0:23:37how it came about, your interest in weather.
0:23:37 > 0:23:42I mean, did you go to college, did you study it, was it a game plan,
0:23:42 > 0:23:47or was it pure luck that you fell into this sort of career now?
0:23:47 > 0:23:50Pure luck to fall into weather. I wanted to be on the telly
0:23:50 > 0:23:53and had written to the Beeb to find out what I had to do
0:23:53 > 0:23:57and I was just a regular presenter, doing other shows,
0:23:57 > 0:24:01but not big shows, and my agent at the time was new
0:24:01 > 0:24:04and he invited me to go for an audition for the Weather Channel.
0:24:04 > 0:24:07I had no meteorological experience at this stage whatsoever
0:24:07 > 0:24:09and I'm saying, "I don't want to be a weather presenter,"
0:24:09 > 0:24:13and he said, "Well, they're probably not going to offer it to you anyway,
0:24:13 > 0:24:15"you big-headed thing, so just go for the audition,"
0:24:15 > 0:24:18so I did. Well, Brian, love at first sight.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20When you present the weather in certain studios,
0:24:20 > 0:24:24you can't see anything behind you - it's either a blue or a green screen,
0:24:24 > 0:24:27so you see the image of what you're talking about
0:24:27 > 0:24:30in the camera in front of you, which is reversed,
0:24:30 > 0:24:33- so it is like rubbing your tummy and patting your head.- Right, right.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35When you've got a front - it's hard not to move your hands
0:24:35 > 0:24:37when you're talking about the weather -
0:24:37 > 0:24:40but when you've got a weather front that's here and you rub your finger
0:24:40 > 0:24:42down along it like that
0:24:42 > 0:24:44and there's nothing there, it's just green,
0:24:44 > 0:24:46it's so satisfying,
0:24:46 > 0:24:48and with breaking news and things, you might be told,
0:24:48 > 0:24:50"You've got two minutes."
0:24:50 > 0:24:52You've got what we call open talk-back,
0:24:52 > 0:24:53which means you hear everything.
0:24:53 > 0:24:55If somebody's saying, "I want an Earl Grey,"
0:24:55 > 0:24:57you hear that, or talking about EastEnders,
0:24:57 > 0:25:00you hear that as well as your timing, so you've got a minute left,
0:25:00 > 0:25:02you've got 15 seconds left, whatever.
0:25:02 > 0:25:03All of that is challenging,
0:25:03 > 0:25:06whilst talking about the weather at the same time.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10But the weather is so varied and I LOVE my job.
0:25:10 > 0:25:12Do you many times go out on location?
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Yes, I go out on location lots. - Do you enjoy that?- Love it.- Yeah?
0:25:15 > 0:25:18But sometimes it can be really rough!
0:25:18 > 0:25:22- Sometimes you're standing in blizzards or rain...- We know.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25We know. We've got some classic moments of you, Carol,
0:25:25 > 0:25:28where things did start to go a bit rough.
0:25:28 > 0:25:30And in the north of Wales, for example,
0:25:30 > 0:25:33we'll be looking more at snow in the hills.
0:25:33 > 0:25:34Now, behind all of that,
0:25:34 > 0:25:41we're also going to have very strong winds gusting inland to about 55mph.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43I remember that - we were in a blizzard.
0:25:43 > 0:25:45I had the producer holding on to my legs,
0:25:45 > 0:25:47- because it was... - So while you're filming this,
0:25:47 > 0:25:50- you've got a producer hanging on to your legs?- Yes. And d'you know what?
0:25:50 > 0:25:54It was so cold, my mouth started to freeze, my tongue.
0:25:54 > 0:25:58It was like being hit by pins and needles.
0:25:58 > 0:26:01And, really, wherever you are, it's going to feel cold,
0:26:01 > 0:26:03despite the fact that we've got temperatures
0:26:03 > 0:26:06up to about ten degrees Celsius in the Channel Islands.
0:26:06 > 0:26:08When you add on the strength of the wind and the wind chill,
0:26:08 > 0:26:10it will feel more like below freezing.
0:26:10 > 0:26:12'The gallery was saying,
0:26:12 > 0:26:15' "This is great television, have another minute!" I'm like, "No!" '
0:26:15 > 0:26:17But you can't say, "No, I don't want another minute!"
0:26:17 > 0:26:19- Yeah.- You've just got to carry on.
0:26:19 > 0:26:23- I'll never forget that, ever, as long as I live.- You can't even see!
0:26:23 > 0:26:24'I know!'
0:26:24 > 0:26:27That's it from me. Back to you two.
0:26:27 > 0:26:29Weather is not the only hazard.
0:26:29 > 0:26:32Here we go, have a look at this.
0:26:32 > 0:26:33GASPING: 'I remember this!'
0:26:33 > 0:26:36..although it will still be hot and humid, not quite as hot and humid
0:26:36 > 0:26:39as it's going to be in the next few days, Charlie and Lou.
0:26:39 > 0:26:40LOUD LAUGHTER IN STUDIO
0:26:40 > 0:26:42Listen to the laughter!
0:26:43 > 0:26:45Oh, Carol, don't look behind you!
0:26:45 > 0:26:47Don't turn round!
0:26:47 > 0:26:49CAROL LAUGHS
0:26:49 > 0:26:52Upstaged by a dog - it's the story of my life!
0:26:52 > 0:26:54And it's true, it is.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57You are so endearing, you really are,
0:26:57 > 0:26:59- and you have the most amazing smile. - Aww!
0:26:59 > 0:27:02And a wonderful joy, you know?
0:27:02 > 0:27:04Bless, you're not so shabby yourself, Brian.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07Oh, please! No, but you really are,
0:27:07 > 0:27:11and I think that's what will sustain you, and why you are so popular,
0:27:11 > 0:27:16is because of how much sunshine you bring to the weather.
0:27:16 > 0:27:18Oh, thank you, that's a lovely thing to say. Thank you.
0:27:23 > 0:27:25So, what do you watch now?
0:27:25 > 0:27:26I watch loads of telly.
0:27:26 > 0:27:28I'm a big soap fan, from Neighbours
0:27:28 > 0:27:31to Corrie to EastEnders, watch all of them.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33I like reality telly as well...
0:27:33 > 0:27:35- Oh, really?- ..such as Strictly
0:27:35 > 0:27:37and The Island With Bear Grylls at the moment,
0:27:37 > 0:27:39- that's pretty good as well.- Ah!
0:27:39 > 0:27:40- Yeah?- Yeah.
0:27:40 > 0:27:42- We have to finish now.- Aww!
0:27:42 > 0:27:47But our guest always gets the opportunity to pick a theme tune
0:27:47 > 0:27:48to play us out with,
0:27:48 > 0:27:52so what sort of theme tune, or what would you like us
0:27:52 > 0:27:54to play out this afternoon with?
0:27:54 > 0:27:57How about the theme tune to Top Of The Pops?
0:27:57 > 0:27:59- # Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee! - Ga-dang-dang... #
0:27:59 > 0:28:01That sounds good to me.
0:28:01 > 0:28:02I meant every word -
0:28:02 > 0:28:08this lady brings a ray of sunshine into the world and we love Carol.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11Thank you so...much! It's been an absolute pleasure.
0:28:11 > 0:28:12Carol Kirkwood, ladies and gentlemen.
0:28:12 > 0:28:14Here is Top Of The Pops!
0:28:14 > 0:28:18MUSIC: TOP OF THE POPS THEME