Paul Martin

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04TV, the magic box of delights.

0:00:04 > 0:00:06As kids, it showed us a million different worlds,

0:00:06 > 0:00:09all from our living room.

0:00:09 > 0:00:11This takes me right back.

0:00:11 > 0:00:12That's so embarrassing.

0:00:12 > 0:00:14I am genuinely shocked.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17Each day, I'm going to journey through the wonderful

0:00:17 > 0:00:20world of telly with one of our favourite celebrities...

0:00:20 > 0:00:22It's just so silly.

0:00:22 > 0:00:26Oh, I love it! Is it Mr Benn?

0:00:26 > 0:00:27SHE SINGS

0:00:27 > 0:00:29Shut it!

0:00:29 > 0:00:31..as they select the iconic TV moments...

0:00:31 > 0:00:33Oh, hello!

0:00:33 > 0:00:35..that tell us the stories of their lives.

0:00:35 > 0:00:37SHE GASPS

0:00:37 > 0:00:38Oh, my gosh.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40Cheers.

0:00:40 > 0:00:41Some will make you laugh...

0:00:41 > 0:00:43Argh!

0:00:43 > 0:00:44Oh, no!

0:00:44 > 0:00:45.. some will surprise...

0:00:45 > 0:00:46PUPPET QUACKS

0:00:46 > 0:00:48SHE SCREAMS

0:00:48 > 0:00:50..many will inspire...

0:00:50 > 0:00:53- Ooh!- Look at this. Why wouldn't you want to watch this?

0:00:53 > 0:00:55..and others will move us.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57Seeing that there made a huge impact on me.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00- You're not having my kids! - Got a handkerchief?

0:01:00 > 0:01:06So come watch with us as we rewind to the classic telly

0:01:06 > 0:01:08that shaped those wide-eyed youngsters

0:01:08 > 0:01:11into the much-loved stars they are today.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21Welcome to The TV That Made Me.

0:01:21 > 0:01:24My guest today is one of our best BBC presenters.

0:01:24 > 0:01:28Ladies and gentlemen, it's Mr Paul Martin.

0:01:28 > 0:01:31- Hello.- How are you, mate? - Really well, thank you.

0:01:31 > 0:01:34- Welcome to my flat.- Love this. I love it.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36Come and sit yourself down.

0:01:38 > 0:01:41Paul Martin has been a valuable fixture on our screens

0:01:41 > 0:01:44since 2002, popping up at auctions

0:01:44 > 0:01:48and fairs across the country on the hit daytime show Flog It.

0:01:49 > 0:01:54In 2012, he joined Penelope Keith to restore a country house

0:01:54 > 0:01:56in To The Manor Reborn.

0:01:57 > 0:02:01The TV that made him includes a Royal wedding...

0:02:01 > 0:02:02CROWD CHEERS

0:02:02 > 0:02:05What an extraordinary moment for the new Princess of Wales.

0:02:05 > 0:02:08..some rag and bone men...

0:02:08 > 0:02:10"Fifi Aylor Photography."

0:02:10 > 0:02:13..and the show that gave him his big break.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16And I think this has to be one of the nicest things I've ever

0:02:16 > 0:02:18seen on Flog It.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21- What do you think of my flat? - I think it's great.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24- It's well '50s.- Yeah?

0:02:24 > 0:02:26Do you find yourself, wherever you go, just looking at...

0:02:26 > 0:02:28Valuing things?

0:02:28 > 0:02:31Yeah, like in a hotel going, "Ooh, look at that."

0:02:31 > 0:02:32Yeah, exactly.

0:02:32 > 0:02:35You never switch off in this business, you never switch off.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38I'm constantly collecting and I'm constantly learning.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41Well, today is a celebration of things that you might have

0:02:41 > 0:02:44- learnt on television.- OK.- Yeah. - You're taking me back to my past.

0:02:44 > 0:02:48Yeah, I mean, this is all classic TV that you've chosen over the years.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50But first up, we're going to rewind the clock

0:02:50 > 0:02:54and have a look at a very young Paul Martin.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56Oh, dear.

0:02:57 > 0:03:02Paul Martin was born in 1959 and grew up in Surrey.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05He studied art and woodwork at college

0:03:05 > 0:03:08and later became a professional drummer.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10After developing a passion for antiques,

0:03:10 > 0:03:13he eventually opened his own dealership.

0:03:13 > 0:03:17But it was after a one-off interview with the BBC that he finally

0:03:17 > 0:03:20found his true vocation and big break,

0:03:20 > 0:03:24when he burst onto our screens to present antiques series Flog It.

0:03:24 > 0:03:28So, what about where you grew up, what was that like?

0:03:28 > 0:03:31In Surrey, West Molesey, a really nice place.

0:03:31 > 0:03:36We had a house, it was a semidetached near the River Thames.

0:03:36 > 0:03:39- Right.- So, had a canoe, which was really good when I was about 11.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41- Not many kids had a canoe. Cor, blimey.- No.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44So, we used to take that down and go canoeing with Dad.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46I played a lot of snooker with my dad.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49- Oh, really?- He was good at snooker. Yeah, a big snooker fan.

0:03:49 > 0:03:51Played it all the time with Dad. We used to watch Pot Black.

0:03:51 > 0:03:53- That was in black and white. - Yeah, yeah.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- So, you didn't know if it was a pink or a yellow.- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:03:56 > 0:04:00- "Oh, what's happening now?" No, I loved that.- So, siblings?

0:04:00 > 0:04:03Older sister, well, two years older.

0:04:03 > 0:04:06You know, old enough to duff me about, when I was six or seven.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09- Really?- It was a big age gap, isn't it - seven to nine?

0:04:09 > 0:04:15- We still fight as well.- Really? - We love each other, though, really.

0:04:15 > 0:04:18We lived next door to Ray Davies of The Kinks.

0:04:18 > 0:04:21So, that was quite funny, growing up next to them.

0:04:21 > 0:04:24He was always falling out with his brother, Dave.

0:04:24 > 0:04:27My dad had a banger and Dave Davies was a mechanic

0:04:27 > 0:04:30- before he was a guitarist. He used to fix my dad's car.- No, really?

0:04:30 > 0:04:33And they were all fighting and they still fight to this day, I believe.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36- You know, brothers.- Yeah, yeah. - Used to play drums in the Scouts.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39- Oh, really?- Marching drums, yeah.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42So, that's why I wanted to be a drummer.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44I got in with Nick Avery and The Kinks.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47Mum used to look after the studio, when they went away.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49Dad had a job offer to move to Cornwall,

0:04:49 > 0:04:53when I was about 15 years old. It was a real wrench.

0:04:53 > 0:04:55What was your dad's job then?

0:04:55 > 0:04:58- He was a senior lecturer at Twickenham College.- Mm-hm.

0:04:58 > 0:05:00And then he got offered a vice principalship

0:05:00 > 0:05:03- at Falmouth College.- Right. - So, it was a good promotion.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05Mum and Dad promised that they'd buy me a drum kit.

0:05:05 > 0:05:07That was the carrot to get me to Cornwall.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09I said, "I don't want to move! I don't want to move!"

0:05:09 > 0:05:11So, that was it, really, from the age of 16,

0:05:11 > 0:05:13I wanted to be a professional drummer

0:05:13 > 0:05:16and they bought me a drum kit. This premier drum kit.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18I had it in my bedroom. I just used to thrash away.

0:05:18 > 0:05:20Do you still own a drum kit?

0:05:20 > 0:05:23- I do, I'm teaching my son to play the drums.- Oh, right.- Yeah.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31So, Paul, what was your earliest TV memories, then?

0:05:31 > 0:05:34I guess it would have to be something like Captain Pugwash,

0:05:34 > 0:05:36those kind of things.

0:05:36 > 0:05:40- So, when watching these programmes, did you have any snacks?- Yeah.

0:05:40 > 0:05:44- Yeah?- I'd shout, "Mum! Where's my Nesquik and sausage rolls?"- Really?

0:05:44 > 0:05:47Yeah. And I always sat on the floor, right in front of the telly as well.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49She'd bring me a couple of small sausage rolls

0:05:49 > 0:05:52- and a strawberry Nesquik.- Oh.

0:05:52 > 0:05:55- Well, just shout that to me now. - OK, have you got any Nesquik?

0:05:55 > 0:05:58- Of course we have. I don't mess about.- You haven't, have you?

0:05:58 > 0:06:01Yeah, I've got it in the kitchen here. Look at that.

0:06:01 > 0:06:05Oh! Mum, you've changed. Nesquik, yeah.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07APPLAUSE

0:06:07 > 0:06:09LAUGHTER

0:06:09 > 0:06:11Oh, Mum, thanks.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13Thanks, Mum.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16- There you go.- One for you and one for me.- Very cool.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19Thank you very much indeed. Put that out away.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22- Look at that.- Come on, let's have a sip. Let's have a little

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- trip down memory lane. Cheers. - Cheers. Here we go.

0:06:27 > 0:06:30- It's the proper stuff as well.- Mm.

0:06:33 > 0:06:36It's putting me back in the spot now, look, in front of the telly.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39- I should be on the floor, really. - Yeah, yeah.

0:06:39 > 0:06:42And you mentioned Pugwash. Let's have a little look.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45Let's have a look at Captain Pugwash.

0:06:45 > 0:06:48- On the high seas. - This will take you right back.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51CAPTAIN PUGWASH THEME TUNE PLAYS

0:06:51 > 0:06:54I mean, surely, one of the most recognisable theme tunes.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57There he is, Captain Pugwash.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00- It's the Black Pig, yeah?- Yeah.

0:07:00 > 0:07:02Back aboard the Black Pig, the pirates have been

0:07:02 > 0:07:04straining their eyes on the distant enemy ship...

0:07:04 > 0:07:07The series followed the misadventures of Captain Pugwash

0:07:07 > 0:07:10and his crew, as they scored victories

0:07:10 > 0:07:15over arch-rival Cut-Throat Jake in the pursuit of treasure.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18It's going, going, gone.

0:07:18 > 0:07:22I mean, look at the work that's gone into those cardboard cut-outs.

0:07:22 > 0:07:24There's someone doing that, isn't there?

0:07:24 > 0:07:26- Going down and holding the table. - Yeah.

0:07:26 > 0:07:29The animation was achieved using large boards with moving parts,

0:07:29 > 0:07:30operated by hand.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33Hero's welcome, that's what he deserves.

0:07:33 > 0:07:37And that's what he'll get. We'll prepare a regular banquet for him.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39Anybody like this?

0:07:39 > 0:07:42This was state-of-the-art. I mean, it was state-of-the-art.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44All the voices are done by Peter Hawkins, I believe.

0:07:44 > 0:07:48- It used to go out live. - No! Did it really?- Yeah.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51- It did, in the very early episodes, yeah.- God, I never knew that.

0:07:51 > 0:07:52I know.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54Here he comes.

0:07:54 > 0:07:58Pugwash first debuted in the boys' comic Eagle, in 1950,

0:07:58 > 0:08:00before being adapted for TV.

0:08:00 > 0:08:06The series, which originally aired between 1957 and 1966, was wrongly

0:08:06 > 0:08:10believed to have featured characters with risque maritime names.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14Creator John Ryan successfully sued two newspapers

0:08:14 > 0:08:17after they published stories claiming that the rumours were true.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20What was it about this programme that drew you in?

0:08:20 > 0:08:23I think it was because he was a pirate and I wanted to grow up

0:08:23 > 0:08:25and be a pirate.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29I didn't want to be as big as that, though, but what a character.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32Pugwash was both vain and greedy,

0:08:32 > 0:08:36but adored by his loyal crew on the good ship Black Pig.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39Why, the way you sunk that ship of Jake's, you'd think it'd been

0:08:39 > 0:08:41hit by a whale.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46What an extraordinary notion, Pirate Barnabas.

0:08:46 > 0:08:52Let's talk about something else, shall we?

0:08:53 > 0:08:56I mean, how important was the television?

0:08:56 > 0:08:59You know, I mean, was it a big thing? Do you remember getting one?

0:08:59 > 0:09:05It was. Yeah, I can remember Mum and Dad plonking it right there.

0:09:05 > 0:09:09The front room was divided into the dining room

0:09:09 > 0:09:12and the sitting room by one of those screens that you have shelves in.

0:09:12 > 0:09:14Mum had all the Whitefriars glass. All the coloured glass.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17You could look through it. It caught the light

0:09:17 > 0:09:18at different times of the day.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22And one of those great big long hi-fis. You know, in a cabinet?

0:09:22 > 0:09:25- Yeah, yeah.- With the speakers built in.- Like a small bungalow.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28It was, and the telly was a bit like that, funnily enough.

0:09:28 > 0:09:29In a big cabinet.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32We sat there, right on the floor, just watching and it was fantastic.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35Of course, it was black and white but it didn't really matter.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38There was nothing else around, was there? It was all black and white.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40Everyone had black-and-white.

0:09:40 > 0:09:43When we finally moved to Cornwall, when I was about 12 or 13,

0:09:43 > 0:09:47- Dad bought a colour telly.- Ooh! - It was fantastic.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50But then half the programmes weren't made in colour, still.

0:09:50 > 0:09:53- So, it's hilarious you got a colour telly.- No, they weren't.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55Not all the programmes were colour.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05Now, we don't normally go for a break this early on,

0:10:05 > 0:10:09- but let's have a look at another one of your early TV memories.- OK.

0:10:10 > 0:10:14This nostalgic TV ad offered a simple,

0:10:14 > 0:10:18traditional, flat-capped vision of northern England.

0:10:18 > 0:10:19- Hovis.- Yeah.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23- It looks absolutely idyllic, doesn't it?- Oh, it's fantastic.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26I used to love that.

0:10:26 > 0:10:30Last stop on the round would be Old Ma Peggoty's place.

0:10:30 > 0:10:34Twas like taking bread to the top of the world.

0:10:34 > 0:10:37- That music.- That's Dvorak, isn't it? - Yeah.- Yeah.

0:10:37 > 0:10:39My mum used to love this.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42I used to say, "Mum, it's on! Quick! Quick!"

0:10:42 > 0:10:45- She'd be in the kitchen. - When adverts were an event.- Yeah.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47She'd come running in and we'd all go,

0:10:47 > 0:10:49"Oh, wow." Cos it was like watching a movie.

0:10:49 > 0:10:54- Directed by Ridley Scott. - Really?- Yeah.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57Twas a grand ride back, though. I knew...

0:10:57 > 0:11:00And, do you know, when I was a little bit older,

0:11:00 > 0:11:04I think I was about 10, 12, 15, something like that...

0:11:04 > 0:11:06I think, when I was a teenager, we found where that was,

0:11:06 > 0:11:09- and it wasn't in Yorkshire. - Was it not?

0:11:09 > 0:11:10- No, it was in Dorset.- Oh, no.

0:11:10 > 0:11:13My mum and dad took me out to see that and we walked up

0:11:13 > 0:11:14and down that hill.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- So, you paid homage to the big Hovis ad.- I did.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- That's how much it meant to you. - Yeah.- "We have to go there."

0:11:20 > 0:11:21"We've got to go there."

0:11:30 > 0:11:32I've got these for you.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34Do you know what that is?

0:11:34 > 0:11:36No, I know what it does, but I don't know what it's called.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38- A swanee whistle.- Oh, right. OK.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58I shall introduce the Clangers.

0:12:06 > 0:12:08There they are.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10That is a Clanger.

0:12:10 > 0:12:12That is another Clanger.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14And that is another Clanger.

0:12:14 > 0:12:16And he's dropped a clanger.

0:12:16 > 0:12:18These mouse-like creatures lurked beneath the surface

0:12:18 > 0:12:22of a small moon, somewhere in outer space.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24Their name comes from the sound the metal lids

0:12:24 > 0:12:27made as they retreated underground.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29And now they seem to be having a bit of an argument

0:12:29 > 0:12:31about their piece of rope.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33It's such a simple theme, isn't it?

0:12:33 > 0:12:36- It's lovely. It was so popular. - Bonkers!

0:12:36 > 0:12:37Yeah, it was.

0:12:37 > 0:12:39And do you know what?

0:12:39 > 0:12:42Whenever Mum was cooking supper and we'd all be

0:12:42 > 0:12:44in the kitchen or be in the sitting room,

0:12:44 > 0:12:47everyone would walk around going, "Woo-woo."

0:12:47 > 0:12:49My dad used to mimic this really, really well.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51My dad loved it.

0:12:51 > 0:12:55While we were having supper, he used to still go, "Woo-doo-oop,"

0:12:55 > 0:12:56just to wind my mum up.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02'The characters often came across space junk left over by

0:13:02 > 0:13:04'early human exploration.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08'The series was created by Oliver Postgate and Peter Firmin,

0:13:08 > 0:13:12'who also came up with Noggin The Nog and Bagpuss.

0:13:12 > 0:13:16'However, the narration in Clangers was all done by Postgate.'

0:13:16 > 0:13:20Ah, now, that is Major Clanger with his flying machine.

0:13:20 > 0:13:24All set and ready to fly up into the sky.

0:13:24 > 0:13:28But, you know, when this first started airing,

0:13:28 > 0:13:30- space and exploration was on everyone's lips, you know?- Yeah.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33- It was that era, wasn't it? - Yeah, it was, yeah.

0:13:33 > 0:13:38This actually came out the same year as we landed on the moon.

0:13:38 > 0:13:41THE CLANGERS WHISTLE

0:13:42 > 0:13:46Yeah, it's great, and it's back on today.

0:13:46 > 0:13:49- It's come full circle, like the interior we're sitting in.- Yeah.

0:13:50 > 0:13:54With its whimsical storylines and melodic sounds,

0:13:54 > 0:13:58it's easy to see why children were so captivated by the Clangers -

0:13:58 > 0:14:00and still are today.

0:14:00 > 0:14:03More than 40 years after the original series came to an end,

0:14:03 > 0:14:06the Clangers has had a reboot with a new series,

0:14:06 > 0:14:09narrated by Michael Palin.

0:14:09 > 0:14:13- That was on just before the news, wasn't it?- Mm-hm. Yeah.

0:14:13 > 0:14:15It was, wasn't it?

0:14:15 > 0:14:16You got this little five minute...

0:14:16 > 0:14:19- Little five-minutes clips you get before the news.- Yeah.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22- Then they'd hit you with something serious.- Yes! Exactly.

0:14:22 > 0:14:24Right, now we're going to level you.

0:14:24 > 0:14:27Something serious, yeah. No, that was brilliant.

0:14:32 > 0:14:37So, Paul, here now is your First Tears At TV moment.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40It's TV but it's also a film, and it was The Railway Children.

0:14:40 > 0:14:42Awww!

0:14:42 > 0:14:44- I've got here some tissues... - I might need them.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46- ..just in case...- I might need them.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48..you get moved. This is it, The Railway Children.

0:14:52 > 0:14:54- Morning, Miss. - Good luck, Miss Roberta.- Thank you.

0:14:56 > 0:14:59'The Railway Children is the story of three siblings

0:14:59 > 0:15:02'who move from London to picturesque rural Yorkshire.

0:15:02 > 0:15:05'Their lives have been turned upside down after their father is

0:15:05 > 0:15:07'wrongly imprisoned for spying.'

0:15:07 > 0:15:09..On a day like this.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13- Jenny Agutter.- Oh, English rose. - Yes, without a doubt.

0:15:13 > 0:15:15I've taken too great a liberty, haven't I?

0:15:15 > 0:15:16On a day like this, you know?

0:15:16 > 0:15:18No, Mr Perks. Of course it's not...

0:15:18 > 0:15:21- Who's that?- Bernard Cribbins. - Bernard Cribbins, yeah.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23Dear Mr Perks, we love you quite as much

0:15:23 > 0:15:25- as if you were an uncle of our own.- Hey!

0:15:25 > 0:15:27- On a day like what?! - Well, like this here!

0:15:27 > 0:15:29I told you I'd seen it in the papers, didn't I?

0:15:29 > 0:15:32- I told you! - Saw what in the papers?!

0:15:32 > 0:15:34The film offered an idyllic vision

0:15:34 > 0:15:37of Edwardian England during the steam age -

0:15:37 > 0:15:42a heart-warming story that has made it a timeless TV favourite.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45So why did it get you so emotional?

0:15:45 > 0:15:46I was in love with her.

0:15:48 > 0:15:51- That was my first TV crush.- Yeah?

0:15:51 > 0:15:54- Yeah, it was.- Not Bernard Cribbins?! - No!

0:16:00 > 0:16:02Oh, I did cry!

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- Oh, here we go. - Oh, they're getting the... Oh-oh!

0:16:05 > 0:16:08- We know what's coming. He's going to come through smoke, isn't he?- Yeah.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10- I did cry. I did cry.- Really? - Yeah, this did make me cry.

0:16:21 > 0:16:23In this emotional scene,

0:16:23 > 0:16:27Jenny's character, Bobbie, is finally reunited with her father.

0:16:33 > 0:16:36Daddy! My Daddy!

0:16:46 > 0:16:48- There you go, Paul. - Oh, look, welling up.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50- Oh, really?!- Yeah.

0:16:50 > 0:16:51AUDIENCE LAUGH

0:16:51 > 0:16:55Isn't it amazing how those emotions still come back?

0:16:55 > 0:16:57- Go on, have another tissue. We can afford it.- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00- Go on. - I don't want to ruin the make-up.

0:17:02 > 0:17:04- So why does it...- I guess...

0:17:04 > 0:17:05..why does it make you feel like that?

0:17:05 > 0:17:08Well, because I'm a dad now. I've got two kids and I think...

0:17:08 > 0:17:11I think there's a big part of that...

0:17:11 > 0:17:14Just looking at that, you know, I miss my mum and dad.

0:17:14 > 0:17:17Oh, don't we all, you know?

0:17:17 > 0:17:20But I think your mum's love of antiques...

0:17:20 > 0:17:23You know, I mean, you're still carrying on that memory,

0:17:23 > 0:17:26- in a way, aren't you?- Yeah.

0:17:26 > 0:17:30Would you say she had a very strong influence on you?

0:17:30 > 0:17:32Oh, gosh, yeah, yeah.

0:17:32 > 0:17:33Very, very strong, yeah.

0:17:33 > 0:17:37- Is it amazing how those memories all come back...- Yeah.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40..you know, just watching a short scene like that?

0:17:40 > 0:17:43Yeah. Do you know, I haven't seen that for possibly 30-odd years?

0:17:43 > 0:17:44Mm-hm.

0:17:44 > 0:17:47And it's still there, isn't it? You can remember it.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49- I remember that moment.- Yeah.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52I knew this whole experience would remind me of my mum and dad.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55- Yeah, yeah. Well, that's lovely.- Yeah.

0:18:00 > 0:18:03Well, we're going to move on to your next one now.

0:18:03 > 0:18:07It had an estimated 750 million people watching it around the world.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09Let's have a look at what it was.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14This is of course the marriage...

0:18:14 > 0:18:15- Diana...- And Charles.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18The bride and groom.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24And what an extraordinary moment for the new Princess of Wales to look

0:18:24 > 0:18:29out at this sea of human beings.

0:18:29 > 0:18:31- This was 1981.- Wow!

0:18:31 > 0:18:34I was in London at the time.

0:18:34 > 0:18:37What do you remember about watching it?

0:18:37 > 0:18:40- I thought she was incredibly beautiful.- Yes.- She was a princess.

0:18:40 > 0:18:43- Oh, without a doubt. - She was a princess, wasn't she?- Yes.

0:18:43 > 0:18:46I can... I just felt so...

0:18:46 > 0:18:49I felt so proud to be English, to tell you the truth.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51A national holiday was declared to mark the marriage

0:18:51 > 0:18:55of Prince Charles to Lady Diana Spencer.

0:18:55 > 0:18:58600,000 people filled the streets of London to catch

0:18:58 > 0:19:00a glimpse of the newlyweds.

0:19:00 > 0:19:02The prince probably remembering when he stood here

0:19:02 > 0:19:06as a very small boy after his mother's Coronation.

0:19:06 > 0:19:10A global TV audience of 750 million people watched,

0:19:10 > 0:19:15making it, at the time, the most popular programme ever broadcast.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17I'd never seen so many people in one place as well.

0:19:17 > 0:19:20We actually tried to get there, and we gave up.

0:19:20 > 0:19:21We just gave up.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24We thought, "Well, let's just go back home

0:19:24 > 0:19:26"and let's try and catch them on TV."

0:19:26 > 0:19:30I can remember getting the train back to Teddington

0:19:30 > 0:19:33and going to get a drink in a pub, and everyone was celebrating

0:19:33 > 0:19:35and it was still on and, you know...

0:19:35 > 0:19:36There was bunting everywhere and

0:19:36 > 0:19:39there was just such a feel-good factor in the country.

0:19:39 > 0:19:41Oh, it was a wonderful, huge event.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44Yeah, everyone was talking about it for days and days and days.

0:19:50 > 0:19:53Paul, we're going to have a look at Must See TV now.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57This is something that genuinely gave you an interest

0:19:57 > 0:20:00- in antiques and memorabilia.- OK.

0:20:00 > 0:20:02And here it is.

0:20:03 > 0:20:05Steptoe And Son!

0:20:05 > 0:20:08It also does not have an electric fan.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12In fact, the only wind I've got is from the horse's tail.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14Look at Steptoe!

0:20:14 > 0:20:16Look at that!

0:20:16 > 0:20:20- This was my mum and dad's favourite programme.- Was it really?- Yeah.

0:20:20 > 0:20:23Steptoe added a dose of gritty realism to the slapstick

0:20:23 > 0:20:26style of other TV sitcoms around at the time.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29The lead characters were rag-and-bone men,

0:20:29 > 0:20:33scraping a living by selling other people's junk.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36- That's a What The Butler Saw machine.- Ah, you recognise it.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40Takes you back to your lecherous youth, does it?

0:20:40 > 0:20:43Harold! Harold!

0:20:43 > 0:20:45- Look at him. - Look how skinny he is!

0:20:45 > 0:20:47I know. Fine figure of a man, wasn't he?

0:20:47 > 0:20:50I've seen more fat on a chip.

0:20:50 > 0:20:51Here, I remember that one!

0:20:51 > 0:20:53Oh, it's red hot, that is.

0:20:53 > 0:20:56Much of the comedy came from the generational conflict

0:20:56 > 0:20:58between father and son.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00Old Albert was set in his grimy ways,

0:21:00 > 0:21:02but Harold was filled with higher aspirations.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05Yeah, come on. Hurry up.

0:21:05 > 0:21:08- Let's get it inside.- All right, all right, all right! Calm down!

0:21:08 > 0:21:11Or else I'll have to rub you down with an ice cube, mate.

0:21:14 > 0:21:17- Oh, fantastic!- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That is brilliant.

0:21:17 > 0:21:19That is TV gold, isn't it? That really is.

0:21:19 > 0:21:21So that was your mum and dad's favourite?

0:21:21 > 0:21:24Mum and Dad's favourite, and they watched it all the time

0:21:24 > 0:21:25and so I watched it.

0:21:25 > 0:21:29- I was fascinated by all that eclectic mess. I loved it.- Mm-hm.

0:21:29 > 0:21:30I really loved it.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32- And they had a stuffed bear... - That's right...

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- ..and I wanted... - In the lounge or the hall.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37Yeah, and I pleaded with my mum and dad to buy a stuffed bear

0:21:37 > 0:21:39but they thought that was a bit too much.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46So how did you start out in television, Paul?

0:21:46 > 0:21:49I was sitting in my antique shop.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51I had an antiques shop in Marlborough.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54We had a really quiet spell and I was sitting in the shop.

0:21:54 > 0:21:56And a BBC researcher came in.

0:21:56 > 0:21:59She said, "Oh, could you tell me about this cabinet?

0:21:59 > 0:22:01"Could you talk me through this, if you don't mind?"

0:22:01 > 0:22:03So I said, "Yeah, all right."

0:22:03 > 0:22:06I thought, "Well, nothing to lose. She might buy it."

0:22:06 > 0:22:09I'm trying to entertain her and, you know, give her the lowdown

0:22:09 > 0:22:11and the spiel and a few anecdotes about it.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- It could have been used by the Duke of Wellington, you know?- Yeah!

0:22:14 > 0:22:16Those kind of stories.

0:22:16 > 0:22:17Didn't think anything of it.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20Yeah, I just went, "Oh, she didn't buy anything."

0:22:20 > 0:22:23You think, you know, lost a client there.

0:22:23 > 0:22:27And about three days later, I had a phone call from the BBC saying,

0:22:27 > 0:22:29"Is that Paul Martin?

0:22:29 > 0:22:33"We're looking at a video clip that someone sent in, a researcher,

0:22:33 > 0:22:36"and we feel you've got the potential to become a TV presenter."

0:22:36 > 0:22:38Oh!

0:22:38 > 0:22:40- "It might work for you." - It's worked...- And it worked.

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- It's worked for the last 15 years. - 15 years, yeah.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44- Our 1,000th show this year. - 15 years!

0:22:44 > 0:22:46Let's have a little look at Flog It!

0:22:46 > 0:22:47280, anyone?

0:22:47 > 0:22:50Christa, you've brought in a wonderful Moorcroft bowl.

0:22:50 > 0:22:54Oh, I look like Lovejoy, don't I?! Long hair and biker boots!

0:22:54 > 0:22:56This is from the first series.

0:22:56 > 0:22:58Get in the queue.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00Flog It! sees Paul and his team of experts

0:23:00 > 0:23:02tour the country valuing antiques -

0:23:02 > 0:23:05some of which are then sold at auction.

0:23:05 > 0:23:07Now, you paid £4 for this.

0:23:07 > 0:23:09- Yes, that's right.- It's a bit of a star buy, isn't it?

0:23:09 > 0:23:11Well, I think so, yes.

0:23:11 > 0:23:13So she bought that bowl for £4.

0:23:15 > 0:23:16Lot 462.

0:23:16 > 0:23:19Start me straight in at £580.

0:23:19 > 0:23:21- Huh!- Whoa!

0:23:21 > 0:23:24- Just a simple idea and it worked, didn't it?- Yeah.

0:23:25 > 0:23:27980, 1,000, 1,500.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29(I can't believe it!)

0:23:30 > 0:23:34- Do you ever tire of the reactions of the people?- No.- No?

0:23:34 > 0:23:36- No, because it's so real, it's so natural.- It is, yeah.

0:23:36 > 0:23:38This is not fake. This is not set up.

0:23:38 > 0:23:41- This is filmed as live. You only get one chance at that.- Mm-hm.

0:23:41 > 0:23:44You can't ask the auctioneer, "Hang on, stop!

0:23:44 > 0:23:47"Let's do a retake. His mic's fallen off!" You just do it.

0:23:47 > 0:23:49(Oh, I can't believe it!)

0:23:49 > 0:23:51Are we all done at 1,500?

0:23:51 > 0:23:53Yes!

0:23:53 > 0:23:56Yes! Oh, gosh!

0:23:56 > 0:23:57'Look at that!'

0:23:57 > 0:24:01- 1,500 and cost her £4.- Yeah, and that's what the show's all about.

0:24:01 > 0:24:02- Yeah.- You know?

0:24:02 > 0:24:04It's not the Antiques Roadshow where we say,

0:24:04 > 0:24:06"Yes, Madam, it's worth 30,000 or 40,000."

0:24:06 > 0:24:10It's real life. It's about stuff that we all come across,

0:24:10 > 0:24:12that we inherit, you know, from Aunt Edna.

0:24:12 > 0:24:15You don't like it, you don't want it and you want to put it into auction.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17You want to flog it and you think it's worth

0:24:17 > 0:24:20possibly a couple of hundred quid and hey-ho, a couple of grand.

0:24:20 > 0:24:23Are there any items that have really taken your breath away that

0:24:23 > 0:24:25have been auctioned off and sadly just done a left turn?

0:24:25 > 0:24:28- On the show?- Yeah.- Oh, gosh, yes. - And just gone through the roof.

0:24:28 > 0:24:30Yes, yes. We had one about three years ago.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33In Scotland, this lovely old chap, a pensioner,

0:24:33 > 0:24:35still looking after his mum, never left home...

0:24:37 > 0:24:39..had on his mantelpiece...

0:24:39 > 0:24:41He had this piece of carved rhino horn.

0:24:43 > 0:24:46This has to be one of the nicest things

0:24:46 > 0:24:48I've ever seen on Flog It! and possibly one of the most

0:24:48 > 0:24:51valuable items we've ever had on the show.

0:24:51 > 0:24:54This was carved in the 17th century

0:24:54 > 0:24:56and it was carved into the shape of a libation cup.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59So it was Chinese and it had lots of mythical dragons

0:24:59 > 0:25:01and figures around it.

0:25:01 > 0:25:02He used it as an ashtray,

0:25:02 > 0:25:04and when he stopped smoking he put drawing pins

0:25:04 > 0:25:06and, you know, elastic bands in it.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08It's one of those things, those typical pots you have

0:25:08 > 0:25:11on the mantelpiece. It was disgusting and it had fallen off

0:25:11 > 0:25:13several times and was chipped and broken.

0:25:13 > 0:25:15He brought it along to our valuation day.

0:25:15 > 0:25:19- How much do you think that's worth? - A couple of hundred pounds.

0:25:20 > 0:25:23A couple of hundred, yeah? A couple of hundred pounds.

0:25:25 > 0:25:28He said, "Well, some bloke's offered me £300 for it.

0:25:28 > 0:25:30"Should I sell it?"

0:25:30 > 0:25:32My gut feeling is

0:25:32 > 0:25:36this is worth £8-£12,000.

0:25:36 > 0:25:38GASPING AND LAUGHING

0:25:38 > 0:25:41- Yes, I'm not pulling your leg. - Quite happy!- Quite happy?!

0:25:42 > 0:25:46We said, "What we'll do is we'll send this down to London

0:25:46 > 0:25:48"and, if it is right,

0:25:48 > 0:25:50"we'll put it in a special fine art

0:25:50 > 0:25:53"sale in Bonhams in Bond Street for their Asian sale."

0:25:53 > 0:25:57It's a big sale once a year, and the Chinese collectors fly over

0:25:57 > 0:26:00and they buy everything.

0:26:00 > 0:26:02This is your restored libation cup.

0:26:02 > 0:26:05The auction house obviously really believe in this.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07Lot number 470.

0:26:07 > 0:26:09Who'd like to start this?

0:26:09 > 0:26:11£5,000 for it. £5,000.

0:26:11 > 0:26:14- 5,000 is offered. Thank you, madam, very much.- We're in.

0:26:14 > 0:26:17'The cup appeared on an episode shown at Chinese New Year.'

0:26:17 > 0:26:21- £30,000.- There...- £30,000, Tom.

0:26:21 > 0:26:24'It was about to become the most exciting item ever to

0:26:24 > 0:26:27'appear on the series.'

0:26:27 > 0:26:30- The bid's at £40,000.- 40 grand!

0:26:30 > 0:26:34£44,000. You're all done.

0:26:34 > 0:26:36Sold!

0:26:36 > 0:26:40- Thank you very much. - What's it worth? £44,000.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43Congratulations, Tom.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46- Oh, isn't that incredible?- Yeah. - And he was going to sell it for 300.

0:26:46 > 0:26:48- Yeah.- I think it's one of the

0:26:48 > 0:26:50reasons Britain loves Flog It! so much.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52It's those stories. You can't make that up.

0:26:57 > 0:26:59So what sort of stuff are you watching now on TV?

0:26:59 > 0:27:02Erm, I still watch all the antiques programmes, obviously,

0:27:02 > 0:27:03Antiques Roadshow...

0:27:03 > 0:27:05Do you wish you'd thought of that?

0:27:05 > 0:27:07Yeah, it's a lovely format, isn't it?

0:27:07 > 0:27:11It's a great format, yeah. I watch all sorts of things.

0:27:11 > 0:27:13I watch a lot of documentaries.

0:27:13 > 0:27:15I'm a big fan of the natural history stuff.

0:27:15 > 0:27:19You know, David Attenborough - legend, legend, legend.

0:27:19 > 0:27:22- Paul, have you enjoyed it? - I have, I have. You made me cry.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25- I had a little tear. I welled up, didn't I?- I'm pleased.

0:27:25 > 0:27:27You took me back and I thought about...

0:27:27 > 0:27:30- thought about all those good values my mum and dad gave me.- Yeah.

0:27:30 > 0:27:32That's important.

0:27:32 > 0:27:34And we give our guests the opportunity now

0:27:34 > 0:27:37to choose a theme tune to play out with.

0:27:37 > 0:27:39- So what's it going to be? - Well, it's got to be...

0:27:39 > 0:27:42because I love snooker, Pot Black.

0:27:42 > 0:27:43I think it was the black and white

0:27:43 > 0:27:46- ivory tickle on the old piano, wasn't it?- Yeah.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48- Fond memories of that. - Fond memories, yeah.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50Fond memories of Dad teaching me to place snooker,

0:27:50 > 0:27:53- and now I'm teaching my son. - Isn't that lovely?- Yeah.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55- And you've been lovely. Thank you very much.- Oh, thanks.

0:27:55 > 0:27:58Thanks to Paul and my thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me.

0:27:58 > 0:28:01We'll see you next time. Bye-bye!

0:28:01 > 0:28:04MUSIC: Black And White Rag by George Botsford