0:00:02 > 0:00:03TV. The magic box of Hough isa delights.
0:00:03 > 0:00:07As kids, it showed us a million different worlds
0:00:07 > 0:00:09all from our living room.
0:00:09 > 0:00:11This takes me right back.
0:00:11 > 0:00:12That's so embarrassing.
0:00:12 > 0:00:14I am genuinely shocked.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17Each day I'm going to journey through the wonderful world
0:00:17 > 0:00:20of telly with one of our favourite celebrities.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22It's just so silly.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Oh! I love it!
0:00:24 > 0:00:25Is it Mr Benn?
0:00:27 > 0:00:31- Shut it!- As they select the iconic TV moments...
0:00:31 > 0:00:33Oh, hello.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36..that tell us the stories of their lives.
0:00:36 > 0:00:38Oh, my God.
0:00:38 > 0:00:40- Cheers.- Some will make you laugh...
0:00:44 > 0:00:45..some will surprise...
0:00:45 > 0:00:47QUACKQUACK!
0:00:47 > 0:00:50- ..many will inspire...- Ooh!
0:00:50 > 0:00:53Look at this. Why wouldn't you want to watch this?
0:00:53 > 0:00:55..and others will move us.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57Seeing that there made a huge impact on me.
0:00:58 > 0:00:59Got a handkerchief?
0:01:00 > 0:01:02So come watch with us
0:01:02 > 0:01:07as we rewind to the classic telly that shaped those
0:01:07 > 0:01:11wide-eyed youngsters into the much-loved stars they are today.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22Welcome to the TV That Made Me. My guest today has
0:01:22 > 0:01:25all the ingredients to make her a true TV star.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28She's the one and only Rachel Khoo!
0:01:29 > 0:01:31- Hi!- Welcome.
0:01:33 > 0:01:34Come and sit yourself down.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40Creative, beautiful and one hell of a cook,
0:01:40 > 0:01:43the delightful Rachel Khoo has become a household name
0:01:43 > 0:01:46thanks to her Little Paris Kitchen.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50The TV that made her includes a firm favourite for her foodie family.
0:01:53 > 0:01:56A Broom Cupboard bird that had her in stitches.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00And an inspirational chef.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05Now, Rachel, I was going to knock you something nice
0:02:05 > 0:02:07- but will a cup of tea do? - Yes, it's fine.- Yeah?
0:02:07 > 0:02:08I'm happy with a cup of tea.
0:02:08 > 0:02:12- Are you excited about this trip down memory lane?- I am super-excited!
0:02:12 > 0:02:15I can't wait to see what you've got lined up.
0:02:16 > 0:02:19Going to show some TV highlights, things that you have chosen,
0:02:19 > 0:02:22things that you probably haven't seen since they very first
0:02:22 > 0:02:23came out but, first up,
0:02:23 > 0:02:27we're going to have a look at a very young Rachel Khoo.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31Born and raised in South London,
0:02:31 > 0:02:33Rachel Khoo grew up with her Austrian mother,
0:02:33 > 0:02:35who was a secretary,
0:02:35 > 0:02:37her Malay Chinese dad, who worked in IT,
0:02:37 > 0:02:40and her younger brother, Michael.
0:02:40 > 0:02:42After a spell living in Germany,
0:02:42 > 0:02:44Rachel moved back to the UK
0:02:44 > 0:02:47where she did a degree in art and design in London.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52A developing passion for patisserie then drew Rachel to Paris where
0:02:52 > 0:02:56she graduated from Le Cordon Bleu culinary school.
0:02:56 > 0:03:00She soon established herself as an author and Rachel's third book,
0:03:00 > 0:03:04The Little Paris Kitchen, hit our TV sets in 2012.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07Since then, she has continued to travel the world
0:03:07 > 0:03:10bringing all manner of cuisine to our screens whilst juggling
0:03:10 > 0:03:13her life as a bestselling writer.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17So, how important was TV?
0:03:17 > 0:03:21Um...TV was very important because my parents were super-strict
0:03:21 > 0:03:23- about watching TV as a kid. - Oh, really?
0:03:23 > 0:03:29I remember as a kid with my brother we lived in our house in Bromley,
0:03:29 > 0:03:34we had the hatches from the kitchen, and it was linked to the TV room,
0:03:34 > 0:03:38the lounge, and on Saturday morning, we would squeeze ourselves through.
0:03:38 > 0:03:40I'm assuming they would lock the latch door.
0:03:40 > 0:03:43Yeah, they locked the lounge door so we would squeeze ourselves through
0:03:43 > 0:03:46the hatch but we were little so we could manage
0:03:46 > 0:03:49through the hatch and then go and watch Saturday morning TV.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- Because you wasn't allowed to?- No, we weren't allowed to watch...
0:03:52 > 0:03:55- Why was you not allowed to watch? - Because my parents thought TV
0:03:55 > 0:03:57was a bad thing. Or too much TV.
0:03:57 > 0:04:01Yeah, you know? So when we heard the rumble upstairs,
0:04:01 > 0:04:02parents are coming down,
0:04:02 > 0:04:05it was like, "Quick, get through the hatch again!"
0:04:10 > 0:04:13Now, we're going to start with your earliest TV memory.
0:04:13 > 0:04:18Which TV cupboard really stuck with the young Rachel Khoo?
0:04:19 > 0:04:22If you're wondering what all these are, they're tomatoes.
0:04:22 > 0:04:23Oh, my goodness.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27- Edd the Duck!- So you don't go, "Oh, Andi Peters," you go,
0:04:27 > 0:04:30- "Oh, Edd the Duck." - Oh, come on, who was the star?
0:04:30 > 0:04:32It was Edd the Duck.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36Although I have met Andi Peters and he's pretty amazing, too,
0:04:36 > 0:04:37but Edd the Duck.
0:04:37 > 0:04:41Look, I mean, what's not to love about Edd the Duck?
0:04:41 > 0:04:42QUACK QUACK
0:04:42 > 0:04:43First of all...
0:04:43 > 0:04:45- QUACK QUACK - You've got to have...
0:04:45 > 0:04:46QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:04:46 > 0:04:49Green fingers. You have got green fingers, very nice.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51The phone's ringing.
0:04:51 > 0:04:54The children's BBC Broom Cupboard launched in 1985.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57Live from a tiny room, presenters would introduce the shows
0:04:57 > 0:05:01for that afternoon with their furry co-host beside them.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05Did you love the way he translated?
0:05:05 > 0:05:06Yes, exactly.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09Why are you speaking in that funny accent?
0:05:09 > 0:05:12- QUACK QUACK QUACK - Because he's a gah-dener, you see.
0:05:12 > 0:05:14And you have manure as a gah-dener, don't you?
0:05:14 > 0:05:16RACHEL LAUGHS
0:05:17 > 0:05:19Sorry, it still entertains me.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23What do you mean it's not ready yet?
0:05:23 > 0:05:25No, be quiet.
0:05:25 > 0:05:26Let me pick it...
0:05:26 > 0:05:30Now I think, like, who's the person kind of going like that?
0:05:30 > 0:05:33You like one of those ones. No, I think we'll have this one, Edd.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35No, I think we'll have this one...
0:05:37 > 0:05:40Edd the Duck was a big influence on you?
0:05:40 > 0:05:45He was like the first kind of TV show I remember as a kid.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47You know, the one after school,
0:05:47 > 0:05:49coming home from primary school
0:05:49 > 0:05:54putting the TV on and you'd see Edd the Duck
0:05:54 > 0:05:55and they'd be chatting about something.
0:05:55 > 0:05:57The problem with Edd the Duck
0:05:57 > 0:06:00was that you never knew when he was going to pop up.
0:06:00 > 0:06:01QUACK QUACK
0:06:01 > 0:06:04APPLAUSE
0:06:05 > 0:06:08Hello, Edd! How are you, mate?
0:06:08 > 0:06:10Oh, my goodness!
0:06:10 > 0:06:12I'm suddenly, like, "Celebrity in the house."
0:06:12 > 0:06:15- Do you want to give him a little stroke?- Hi, Edd.
0:06:15 > 0:06:18- There you go.- I love your jumper!
0:06:18 > 0:06:21Yeah, it's got 'Edd.' We've got a little game for you to play.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23- OK.- I shall translate. What is that, Edd?
0:06:23 > 0:06:25QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:25 > 0:06:27You want her to name...
0:06:27 > 0:06:28QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:28 > 0:06:31As many of the Broom Cupboard presenters...
0:06:31 > 0:06:33as you can.
0:06:33 > 0:06:34QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:34 > 0:06:35And if you can name four...
0:06:35 > 0:06:37Oh, no!
0:06:37 > 0:06:40..Edd will come and live with you in your house forever...
0:06:40 > 0:06:43QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:43 > 0:06:46..as long as she promises never to cook orange sauce.
0:06:48 > 0:06:49OK. All right.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51I won't cook duck a l'orange.
0:06:51 > 0:06:52So...
0:06:52 > 0:06:55I've got a card here and I'll be able to tell.
0:06:55 > 0:06:57OK, there's only one.
0:06:57 > 0:07:01There's obviously Andi Peters. And then Phillip Schofield I remember.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- Andy Crane.- He's another good one.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07And then I can't remember anybody else.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09Can you give me some clues?
0:07:09 > 0:07:11Johnny Ball's daughter.
0:07:11 > 0:07:13Oh! Zoe Ball.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15- Yes!- Well done.
0:07:15 > 0:07:17You got four. You pleased with that?
0:07:17 > 0:07:19- I'm very pleased. - Edd will come and live with you.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22So, Edd, go and pack your bags and duck down.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25QUACK QUACK
0:07:25 > 0:07:27Edd the Duck!
0:07:27 > 0:07:29Woo! Yay!
0:07:29 > 0:07:32I never thought I would ever meet Edd the Duck.
0:07:37 > 0:07:42- The next choice, Rachel, is Must See TV but before we do...- Ah.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45..I've got a little surprise.
0:07:45 > 0:07:47OK. Oh, I don't know about your surprises.
0:07:47 > 0:07:50I've been in the kitchen, I've been cooking.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52Oh, wow!
0:07:52 > 0:07:53- And...- What have you made?
0:07:55 > 0:07:57- What do you think it looks like? - You've made lasagne!
0:07:57 > 0:08:00I have. I haven't, I bought it.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03- I don't think you have these containers.- No.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05When you look at lasagne, what does it remind you of?
0:08:05 > 0:08:07- What TV programme?- Garfield.
0:08:08 > 0:08:12I had a really big thing for Garfield.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14My brother and I had a really big thing for Garfield
0:08:14 > 0:08:16the cartoon and we loved Garfield
0:08:16 > 0:08:21so much we would make our mum make lasagne.
0:08:21 > 0:08:23And you would eat that while watching Garfield.
0:08:23 > 0:08:25- Yes.- There's my remote.
0:08:25 > 0:08:26- OK.- Press play.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29Here it is. Garfield.
0:08:29 > 0:08:32Ladies and gentlemen, Garfield and Friends.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36I haven't seen this in years!
0:08:36 > 0:08:41Based on cartoonist Jim Davis's comic strip called Garfield,
0:08:41 > 0:08:43this hilarious animated series
0:08:43 > 0:08:47featured the adventures of a lovable lazy cat and his friends.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52I loved, obviously, Garfield
0:08:52 > 0:08:55but the relationship between Garfield and Odie.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- Odie the dog, of course. - Odie the dog.
0:08:59 > 0:09:01We're starving away to nothingness
0:09:01 > 0:09:03and all you can think about is going out?
0:09:03 > 0:09:06So what was it about that relationship that you loved so much?
0:09:06 > 0:09:14Garfield was always so miserable and all he did was sleep and eat, which
0:09:14 > 0:09:16for me is pretty much amazing.
0:09:16 > 0:09:21I love to sleep and eat, and then Odie would just be
0:09:21 > 0:09:23oblivious to everything.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26And just so joyful and up for everything.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30You know, no matter what happened, he'd go for it and Garfield's like,
0:09:30 > 0:09:32"Oh! No!"
0:09:32 > 0:09:34Grumpy, grumpy.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36Famed for his fondness of food,
0:09:36 > 0:09:39lasagne-loving Garfield's life generally revolved around
0:09:39 > 0:09:42sleeping and, not surprisingly, stuffing his face.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49Sorry, cat. We close at eight sharp.
0:09:51 > 0:09:52You can't do this to me.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54- You can't!- I've done that.
0:09:54 > 0:09:56I went to Japan
0:09:56 > 0:10:00and I was in Tokyo and I found this little noodle place
0:10:00 > 0:10:01I really wanted to go to
0:10:01 > 0:10:04and it wasn't open so I was banging on the door.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07I was knocking on the neighbour's door and I don't speak Japanese
0:10:07 > 0:10:10and I was like... "Where's the noodle man!
0:10:10 > 0:10:11"Where's the noodle soup?"
0:10:11 > 0:10:14I think Garfield and I have a lot in common
0:10:14 > 0:10:17because food for us means so much.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24Rachel, we're going to move on to your Guilty Pleasure now.
0:10:24 > 0:10:27It's an underwater sci-fi,
0:10:27 > 0:10:30and this particular episode contains talking dolphins.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- Do you know what the programme is? - I think I do.- It's SeaQuest.
0:10:36 > 0:10:37RACHEL LAUGHS
0:10:37 > 0:10:40- Why do you laugh? - Because I haven't seen it
0:10:40 > 0:10:43since I watched it as a teenager.
0:10:43 > 0:10:45But I was obsessed with this programme.
0:10:45 > 0:10:46Really?
0:10:46 > 0:10:51Steven Spielberg's futuristic sci-fi show SeaQuest DSV
0:10:51 > 0:10:54was set in the early 21st century,
0:10:54 > 0:10:58when mankind have colonised the last unexplored region on Earth -
0:10:58 > 0:11:00the ocean.
0:11:00 > 0:11:04Labelled "a wet space opera," its characters and storylines
0:11:04 > 0:11:08could have been equally at home on the Starship Enterprise.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13I was so obsessed, I had a massive fight with my mum for not letting me
0:11:13 > 0:11:15- watch it one day.- Really?
0:11:15 > 0:11:18She wanted me to do some cleaning and help out in the house,
0:11:18 > 0:11:20and I was like, "I've got to watch it!"
0:11:20 > 0:11:22You know, it's, "Something dramatic is going to happen!"
0:11:22 > 0:11:26- Oh, right. - General, he's a dolphin, not a spy.
0:11:26 > 0:11:28Sir, you can't put him in just any ecology.
0:11:28 > 0:11:30He's going to get sick in there.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32Your mammal is responsible for a breach in UEO security.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36Until we find out who he's talking to, we intend to keep an eye on him.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39My friend, have you been sending messages?
0:11:41 > 0:11:44It was set in the future, this is 2018.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48It's 2018? That's in, like, two years' time!
0:11:48 > 0:11:50I know, I know!
0:11:52 > 0:11:55I've gone blank on his name, but that young guy with his,
0:11:55 > 0:11:56like, tousled hair...
0:11:56 > 0:11:58- Yeah.- ..I had the biggest crush on him.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00I think he was my first TV crush.
0:12:00 > 0:12:02His name was Jonathan Brandis.
0:12:02 > 0:12:06Jonathan Brandis. I had a poster of him on my wall in my room.
0:12:06 > 0:12:09Look at it. I don't think we're going to sneak him
0:12:09 > 0:12:10a flounder with a file in it.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13The captain of the SeaQuest was played by the late,
0:12:13 > 0:12:17great Roy Scheider, who's best known as Chief Brody in Jaws.
0:12:17 > 0:12:20Which meant he was well accustomed to performing
0:12:20 > 0:12:23with these very lifelike animatronic sea creatures.
0:12:23 > 0:12:28Thankfully, Darwin the dolphin was much less frightening than Jaws.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31- Who's returning?- Invitation.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34Co-operation.
0:12:34 > 0:12:38So was it for the brilliant storylines you watched this for,
0:12:38 > 0:12:39or was it cos you had a crush?
0:12:39 > 0:12:41Well, what do you think?
0:12:43 > 0:12:46Come on, I was a teenage girl, all the crazy hormones.
0:12:46 > 0:12:48It was him and Take That.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50Hey!
0:12:51 > 0:12:54- The aliens?- Visitors coming.
0:12:54 > 0:12:57It would be funny to watch this now and see what kind of technology
0:12:57 > 0:12:59they're using.
0:12:59 > 0:13:03I withheld very important information from these people.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05I'm lucky I'm not in jail.
0:13:05 > 0:13:07I think the dolphin was the best actor in that scene!
0:13:07 > 0:13:08RACHEL LAUGHS
0:13:08 > 0:13:11Hey, don't slate my Jonathan!
0:13:11 > 0:13:12Oh, really!
0:13:12 > 0:13:15So, was you a bit of a sci-fi geek?
0:13:15 > 0:13:18- I don't think...- Or was it really, purely down to Jonathan?
0:13:18 > 0:13:20I think it was purely down to Jonathan.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23- Oh, really?- If he was on I was, like, glued to the TV.
0:13:23 > 0:13:25But now watching it I'm like, "Oh, my goodness."
0:13:25 > 0:13:27My taste has evolved.
0:13:27 > 0:13:29- Oh, really?- Yeah.- Yeah? - Just slightly.
0:13:29 > 0:13:32I don't think this would be my guilty pleasure any more.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- No?- No, no.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42And we're going to move on to your next choice now.
0:13:42 > 0:13:47- Mm-hmm.- A show that had you all huddled around the TV.
0:13:47 > 0:13:48This is your Family Favourite.
0:13:50 > 0:13:52- What's it called?- Food and Drink!
0:13:52 > 0:13:55- Food and Drink. - I remember that theme tune!
0:13:55 > 0:13:59Undoubtedly a trailblazer when it comes to foodie telly,
0:13:59 > 0:14:02the original series of Food and Drink had viewers hooked
0:14:02 > 0:14:04from 1982 to 2001.
0:14:06 > 0:14:10Regularly presented by Chris Kelly and the late Michael Barry,
0:14:10 > 0:14:13the hit show also made household names of wine experts
0:14:13 > 0:14:15Oz Clarke and Jilly Goolden.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19The series wasn't just about good food and wine.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22It also tackled hard-hitting topical news stories
0:14:22 > 0:14:27such as the BSE crisis, and exposed dodgy products.
0:14:27 > 0:14:31And it saw early appearances of many of today's celebrity chefs,
0:14:31 > 0:14:32including Jamie Oliver.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37That was the one TV show we were allowed to stay up for.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39- Oh, really?- Yeah.
0:14:39 > 0:14:41Because your family, your mum, your dad,
0:14:41 > 0:14:42they were passionate about food,
0:14:42 > 0:14:46- as well?- Yeah, they loved to watch, you know, this show.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49- It was really popular at that time! - Oh, it was very popular.- Yeah.
0:14:49 > 0:14:51This is what happens if you take the front off,
0:14:51 > 0:14:52show you what goes on inside.
0:14:52 > 0:14:55Whacky wine critic Jilly Goolden is known fondly
0:14:55 > 0:14:59for teaching the nation to sniff, sip and swill.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02So the wine doesn't get spoilt by oxidation.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04Incidentally, this valve is so powerful
0:15:04 > 0:15:05that when you've emptied the bag,
0:15:05 > 0:15:08you can blow it up and use it as a beach pillow when it's finished.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11- OK!- There you go! - I didn't know that!
0:15:11 > 0:15:14- You'd be so drunk you won't bother with it.- No!
0:15:14 > 0:15:15You'd just be collapsed.
0:15:15 > 0:15:19I did always wonder how they, you know,
0:15:19 > 0:15:23drink everything and not end up a little bit tipsy on the show.
0:15:23 > 0:15:25Yeah, yeah. And of course, she...
0:15:25 > 0:15:32Jilly always had a wonderful way of explaining the bouquet of a certain
0:15:32 > 0:15:36- drink.- She would always use words - as a kid I would be like, "Ooh,
0:15:36 > 0:15:37"what does that mean?"
0:15:38 > 0:15:41And the kind of facial expressions.
0:15:41 > 0:15:42Yeah.
0:15:42 > 0:15:44I wonder if she had to warm up beforehand.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46Yeah, yeah, yeah!
0:15:46 > 0:15:47- We've got a little game...- OK.
0:15:47 > 0:15:49..that we would like you to warm up to.
0:15:49 > 0:15:51- Yeah.- A little wine-tasting game.
0:15:51 > 0:15:54- Ooh!- Excuse me while I go to the kitchen. A little...
0:15:54 > 0:15:57Oh, blimey, I knocked the door there, I nearly lost them.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59- Don't trip up now!- No, I won't.
0:15:59 > 0:16:01So we've got three bottles of wine here.
0:16:01 > 0:16:06- Uh-huh.- And, of course, Jilly was always wonderful at explaining
0:16:06 > 0:16:11how the aroma of the wine, you know, felt and tasted.
0:16:11 > 0:16:12Yeah. Very creative.
0:16:12 > 0:16:15Yes. We've got three bottles of wine,
0:16:15 > 0:16:18and we'll be showing you three vintage clips from Jilly.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21- But, firstly, you've got to taste it.- OK.- So is that A?
0:16:21 > 0:16:25- I think that's A.- Oh, right, they you go, so you're sober.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27Yeah, let's make the most of this.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29So have a little sniff. Oh, and, er,
0:16:29 > 0:16:31I've got a little cup here if you wish to spit it out,
0:16:31 > 0:16:35if you want to be all professional, or you're just going to drink it.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37I'm just going to drink it!
0:16:37 > 0:16:40I can swirl it around, and you're supposed to look at the tears.
0:16:40 > 0:16:44So when Jilly tasted this wine, did she say,
0:16:44 > 0:16:47"It tastes of rainy days and Mondays,"
0:16:47 > 0:16:51"It tastes like bracken shoots on a hot heath,"
0:16:51 > 0:16:56or C, "It's like a bag of chips with a pickled egg."
0:16:56 > 0:16:58Bag of chips with a pickled egg!
0:16:58 > 0:17:00Erm...
0:17:00 > 0:17:01Yeah, go with A.
0:17:01 > 0:17:05You're going to go with A, tastes like rainy days and Mondays.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07- Let's find out.- Mmm!
0:17:07 > 0:17:10Bracken shoots on a hot heath, absolutely wonderful!
0:17:10 > 0:17:12Oh, the correct answer was B,
0:17:12 > 0:17:15it tastes like bracken shoots on a hot heath.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18Oh, but rainy days! So, so poetic!
0:17:18 > 0:17:21Let's see if you can get the next one right.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23So, when Jilly tasted this one, did she say,
0:17:23 > 0:17:27"It has hints of peanut butter and jam,"
0:17:27 > 0:17:30"It tastes like dry, salty fish,"
0:17:30 > 0:17:36"It's got a lovely, buxom quality with pert acidity
0:17:36 > 0:17:38"and a slick of green apples"?
0:17:38 > 0:17:41I think there's definitely something pert about this white wine.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44Right, so you're going with the slick of green apples.
0:17:44 > 0:17:45Mmm!
0:17:45 > 0:17:48Buxom quality, but with pert acidity and a lovely sort of
0:17:48 > 0:17:51- slick of green apple.- Yes!
0:17:51 > 0:17:52Yes, well done!
0:17:52 > 0:17:54Yay!
0:17:54 > 0:17:57Well done. Rachel, here's your final one.
0:17:57 > 0:18:01- All right.- So when Jilly tasted this one, did she say,
0:18:01 > 0:18:05"It has an undercurrent of village ponds."
0:18:05 > 0:18:08Do I really want to drink it with village...?
0:18:08 > 0:18:12"It tastes like a fireplace dusted with icing sugar,"
0:18:12 > 0:18:16or C, "We're getting a bit bathroomy,
0:18:16 > 0:18:18"this one is just like bath salts,
0:18:18 > 0:18:20"but lovely bath salts"?
0:18:21 > 0:18:23Let's go with the bath salts.
0:18:24 > 0:18:27Now this one is just like bath salts when you get there,
0:18:27 > 0:18:29absolutely extraordinary, lovely bath salts, of course.
0:18:29 > 0:18:32- Yes!- You are correct, well done indeed!
0:18:32 > 0:18:34APPLAUSE
0:18:34 > 0:18:38You have a very good palate - two out of three is not bad.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40It's not bad, with a cold as well!
0:18:40 > 0:18:43- Yeah, yeah, yeah,! - Ah!- Very impressed.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50- Well, time for a break now, a commercial break.- OK.
0:18:50 > 0:18:53And one that I hope brings back some really good memories.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55Have a little look at this.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02Showing a bushy-browed teenager's panic
0:19:02 > 0:19:04in the aftermath of a house party,
0:19:04 > 0:19:07this classic ad was one of a series of mini-drama adverts
0:19:07 > 0:19:09for the Yellow Pages.
0:19:09 > 0:19:10Who are you?
0:19:12 > 0:19:15- That's Jake Wood from EastEnders, there.- Oh, really?!
0:19:16 > 0:19:19Oh, hello, French polishers?
0:19:19 > 0:19:21It's just possible you could save my life.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31PHONE RINGS
0:19:32 > 0:19:34Mum, just landed?
0:19:34 > 0:19:37Oh, quiet.
0:19:37 > 0:19:38I'm on my way.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- So, what was it about that advert that you loved so much?- Well...
0:19:46 > 0:19:49- a similar thing happened to me. - What, you had a party?
0:19:50 > 0:19:51Well, not quite.
0:19:51 > 0:19:54I did some artwork on the dining room table
0:19:54 > 0:19:57and I was cutting something out and I thought,
0:19:57 > 0:20:01"Oh, I don't need a mat." And I cut it and then I got a mark.
0:20:01 > 0:20:03So I thought, "I'll file it."
0:20:03 > 0:20:06- Oh, no!- And the mark became a dip.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09And then my dad banished me to the garden shed.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13Forever onwards I had to do artwork in the garden shed,
0:20:13 > 0:20:17because I didn't think of Yellow Pages.
0:20:17 > 0:20:19Man, if I had the Yellow Pages at the time
0:20:19 > 0:20:21I would have given somebody a call.
0:20:21 > 0:20:25But, yeah... So I can associate with that feeling of getting
0:20:25 > 0:20:27- a scratch on the table.- Yeah.- Yep.
0:20:33 > 0:20:36So, your next choice is a lady who has been cooking
0:20:36 > 0:20:38on our screens since the early '70s.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41You have chosen her as your biggest influence.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44And here she is destroying a coconut.
0:20:45 > 0:20:47Well, now we're going to go on a long journey
0:20:47 > 0:20:49all the way from Thailand to Sri Lanka.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52And I want to show you a curry recipe that a friend of mine
0:20:52 > 0:20:55- brought back from there. - Look at the earrings!- I know...
0:20:55 > 0:20:57..which is a fresh coconut.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00Her earrings are nearly as big as the coconut!
0:21:00 > 0:21:02..not exactly user-friendly.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04Champion of back-to-basics cookery,
0:21:04 > 0:21:06Delia Smith is so influential
0:21:06 > 0:21:09that she created a phenomenon known as the Delia Effect -
0:21:09 > 0:21:13a celebrity endorsement that prompts a shopper stampede.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16Put the coconut inside the polythene bag.
0:21:16 > 0:21:18Then you need a really heavy object,
0:21:18 > 0:21:21something like a big hammer or a mallet.
0:21:21 > 0:21:23I think we know what's going to happen, don't we?
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- I think there's something quite brutal about this.- Yeah.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28And then you put the coconut onto the concrete...
0:21:28 > 0:21:30In the past, the Delia Effect
0:21:30 > 0:21:33has caused a national cranberry shortage
0:21:33 > 0:21:36and seen salted caper sales rise by 350%.
0:21:39 > 0:21:40She enjoyed that, didn't she?
0:21:40 > 0:21:41Yeah, I think so.
0:21:41 > 0:21:44I think what's great about Delia, she always gave us a little tip,
0:21:44 > 0:21:46didn't she? A handy hint.
0:21:46 > 0:21:49Yeah, she was good at giving tips and it was always very clear.
0:21:49 > 0:21:54You know, nothing too complicated in terms of techniques.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57And just keep sliding the knife in,
0:21:57 > 0:22:00right underneath and then it'll just prise it away, like that.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04And nowadays, you say, "Just buy at your supermarket already prepared."
0:22:04 > 0:22:07Yeah. But she was a huge influence?
0:22:07 > 0:22:10Definitely. I mean, she was, for me...
0:22:10 > 0:22:16Delia was the first solo cookery... personality I watched on TV.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19And I remember watching a lot of her shows
0:22:19 > 0:22:23like Christmas shows and like this one here as a kid
0:22:23 > 0:22:27and enjoying them, obviously.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30But also being interested in what she was cooking
0:22:30 > 0:22:31and discovering new things.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35And I always feel she's kind of combined that kind of
0:22:35 > 0:22:40educational part and also the delicious part, because the food...
0:22:40 > 0:22:42As a kid, it looked really tasty.
0:22:42 > 0:22:47Nowadays, filming food on TV has evolved a little bit,
0:22:47 > 0:22:50the styling is a little bit different. But I think
0:22:50 > 0:22:55back in the '80s, it was pretty...exciting.
0:22:55 > 0:22:56- Yeah.- To see all the different...
0:22:56 > 0:23:01Like, there, cooking a Thai curry, I'd never tasted a Thai curry.
0:23:01 > 0:23:05So it was interesting to see all these flavours and things she was
0:23:05 > 0:23:07exploring and different ingredients.
0:23:07 > 0:23:10I think when you're growing up as a young girl, a young woman,
0:23:10 > 0:23:14it's great to see a woman on TV
0:23:14 > 0:23:20doing her own show and doing it really well and...
0:23:20 > 0:23:22being intelligent about it as well.
0:23:22 > 0:23:26- Yeah, yeah.- I think it's educational in the way she talks about food,
0:23:26 > 0:23:28but it's still tasty.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37Rachel, we've seen the television that has influenced you
0:23:37 > 0:23:42but we're going to have a look at your big break. Ms Rachel Khoo.
0:23:42 > 0:23:46This is French food the way the Parisians cook and eat it.
0:23:46 > 0:23:48C'est tout. That's it.
0:23:49 > 0:23:51People always ask me, "Was it really your home?"
0:23:51 > 0:23:53I was like, "Yes!"
0:23:53 > 0:23:56From her own tiny kitchen in Paris to the capital's
0:23:56 > 0:24:00beautiful bistros, Rachel revealed French cooking for the 21st century.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04It was this big, the camera was this big,
0:24:04 > 0:24:07we all had to squeeze in like this, you know.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10- The cameraman...- I think that's what gave it its appeal.
0:24:10 > 0:24:12- Yes.- People are always talking about that tiny kitchen.
0:24:12 > 0:24:15And what you created in that tiny kitchen.
0:24:15 > 0:24:16- Yeah.- It was charming.
0:24:16 > 0:24:20Thank you. All right, for the pistou sauce, it's really easy.
0:24:20 > 0:24:23'Sometimes, you know, the director said, "OK, Rachel,
0:24:23 > 0:24:26'"we need a shot of you stirring the bowl'
0:24:26 > 0:24:28"but your head is in the way."
0:24:28 > 0:24:30And I'm like, "OK..."
0:24:30 > 0:24:33So the cameraman would squeeze in behind me
0:24:33 > 0:24:36and he'd have the camera over my shoulder
0:24:36 > 0:24:39and I would be like mixing like this
0:24:39 > 0:24:41and then, like, trying to get that shot.
0:24:41 > 0:24:43So, you know, if we had a behind-the-scenes,
0:24:43 > 0:24:45it would have been very funny.
0:24:45 > 0:24:48- I would have liked to have seen that.- Yeah, and all the camera kit,
0:24:48 > 0:24:50you know, the bags, was popped in the bath tub.
0:24:50 > 0:24:52- No!- Cos there was no room anywhere else.
0:24:52 > 0:24:56- That's lovely.- Yeah, so, no, it was... It was good fun.
0:24:56 > 0:24:57Would you go back to that?
0:24:57 > 0:24:58Um...
0:24:58 > 0:25:01- No.- No?- I went mad by the end of it.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04I was banging my head against the chopping board.
0:25:04 > 0:25:06All you need now is some sunflower oil.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10Traditional pistou is a bit like the very popular Italian pesto,
0:25:10 > 0:25:13it just doesn't have pine nuts or Parmesan in it.
0:25:13 > 0:25:15And you're going to blend it up.
0:25:15 > 0:25:17'I still have that blender at home.'
0:25:18 > 0:25:22- It works!- And it's got tape on it cos it's, like, falling apart.
0:25:22 > 0:25:26You can use it like a pesto, but it also goes well with potatoes,
0:25:26 > 0:25:27lamb chops.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30And because it has no dairy, it's great for vegans.
0:25:33 > 0:25:34Mm, good.
0:25:34 > 0:25:37It must have been amazing. Did you think it was going to take off?
0:25:37 > 0:25:40- Did you have a feeling?- I mean...
0:25:40 > 0:25:43I knew something big was going to happen, because...
0:25:43 > 0:25:46just to be on the BBC, it's huge.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49Even in France, you know, they know...
0:25:49 > 0:25:51"BBC? C'est le BBC."
0:25:52 > 0:25:55So I knew something was definitely going to change.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59But, at the same time, because I still lived in Paris
0:25:59 > 0:26:01when the show kicked off,
0:26:01 > 0:26:05I didn't experience that recognising you on the street
0:26:05 > 0:26:07and stuff like that. So my life continued
0:26:07 > 0:26:11as...as usual, you know? It was just when I went back to London
0:26:11 > 0:26:15or, you know, I hop on the train, go back for some meetings
0:26:15 > 0:26:18then I would notice, like, either I had something funny
0:26:18 > 0:26:20on my face when I was on the Tube or people
0:26:20 > 0:26:23were like, "Oh, I recognise her," or something like that. So, yeah.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31Rachel, what do you watch now?
0:26:31 > 0:26:34What do I watch now? So, I love box sets.
0:26:34 > 0:26:36Yeah.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38And I don't really have a TV.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41I have a computer. I didn't even have a TV in my kitchen in Paris,
0:26:41 > 0:26:45it was the oven or the TV, and I needed the oven more.
0:26:46 > 0:26:48So recently,
0:26:48 > 0:26:50Luther was on again,
0:26:50 > 0:26:54The Fall. I love all those crime series.
0:26:54 > 0:26:56I'm not so much into cookery shows,
0:26:56 > 0:26:59cos when I watch cookery shows I'm like, "How did they film that?
0:26:59 > 0:27:02- "What camera angle?" - So it's like a busman's holiday?
0:27:02 > 0:27:03Yes. Yeah, yeah.
0:27:03 > 0:27:06Rachel, you've been a wonderful guest.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08You've brought a ray of sunshine to my sofa.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10Oh, thank you!
0:27:10 > 0:27:13I want to thank you and I also want to give you the opportunity now
0:27:13 > 0:27:15to choose a theme tune for us to play out on.
0:27:15 > 0:27:18- Have you thought about this? - Yes. I have thought about it.
0:27:18 > 0:27:22So one of the shows I used to watch as a teenager was, in German,
0:27:22 > 0:27:26which is also very bizarre, The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air.
0:27:26 > 0:27:29- Ah.- And I can't rap but I like the tune.
0:27:29 > 0:27:31It's always so fun.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33- Yeah.- And it's like...
0:27:33 > 0:27:35When you hear it, it's like, "Oh, yeah!"
0:27:35 > 0:27:38- Yeah.- So I thought that would be a good tune for the end.
0:27:38 > 0:27:40- Thank you very much.- Thank you!
0:27:41 > 0:27:43- Two.- Oh, two. I forget.
0:27:43 > 0:27:46- Don't worry. - So, my thanks to you, Rachel,
0:27:46 > 0:27:49and my thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me.
0:27:49 > 0:27:50We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53# I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there
0:27:53 > 0:27:56# I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
0:28:04 > 0:28:07# In west Philadelphia born and raised
0:28:07 > 0:28:10# On the playground was where I spent most of my days
0:28:10 > 0:28:12# Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool
0:28:12 > 0:28:14# And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
0:28:14 > 0:28:17# When a couple of guys who were up to no good
0:28:17 > 0:28:19# Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
0:28:19 > 0:28:21# I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
0:28:21 > 0:28:24# And said "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air"
0:28:24 > 0:28:26# I whistled for a cab and when it came near
0:28:26 > 0:28:29# The license plate said 'FRESH' and it had dice in the mirror... #