0:00:02 > 0:00:03TV. The magic box of delights.
0:00:03 > 0:00:07As kids, it showed us a million different worlds,
0:00:07 > 0:00:08all from our living room.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10So funny!
0:00:10 > 0:00:12That was state-of-the-art.
0:00:12 > 0:00:13Ah!
0:00:13 > 0:00:15I loved this.
0:00:15 > 0:00:17Each day, I'm going to journey
0:00:17 > 0:00:19through the wonderful world of telly...
0:00:19 > 0:00:20Cheers.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22..with one of our favourite celebrities...
0:00:22 > 0:00:23We're going into space.
0:00:23 > 0:00:25- It's just so silly. - Oh, no!
0:00:27 > 0:00:28Yeah!
0:00:28 > 0:00:31..as they select the iconic TV moments...
0:00:32 > 0:00:34My God, this is the scene!
0:00:34 > 0:00:35Oh, dear!
0:00:35 > 0:00:37..that tell us the stories of their lives.
0:00:39 > 0:00:40I absolutely adored this.
0:00:40 > 0:00:41Some will make you laugh.
0:00:41 > 0:00:43SHE LAUGHS
0:00:43 > 0:00:44Don't watch the telly, Esther, watch me!
0:00:44 > 0:00:47Some will surprise.
0:00:47 > 0:00:49No way! Where did you find this?!
0:00:50 > 0:00:51Many will inspire.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55It used to transport us to places that we could only dream about.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57And others will move us.
0:00:57 > 0:00:58I am emotional now.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01Today, we look even more deeply.
0:01:01 > 0:01:02Why wouldn't you want to watch this?
0:01:02 > 0:01:06So come and watch with us as we rewind to the classic telly
0:01:06 > 0:01:09that helped shape those wide-eyed youngsters
0:01:09 > 0:01:11into the much-loved stars they are today.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22Welcome to The TV That Made Me.
0:01:22 > 0:01:23My guest today
0:01:23 > 0:01:26is a multi-award-winning sports presenter.
0:01:26 > 0:01:29It's the lovely Hazel Irvine. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:01:29 > 0:01:31Listen to that cheer. They like you.
0:01:31 > 0:01:32- How lovely to see you.- Welcome.
0:01:32 > 0:01:37Hazel Irvine guided us through the London Olympics opening ceremony,
0:01:37 > 0:01:40an event watched by over 27 million people.
0:01:40 > 0:01:43She was the youngest-ever presenter of Grandstand,
0:01:43 > 0:01:46and the first female anchor at a men's golf major.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50The TV that made Hazel includes...
0:01:50 > 0:01:54a show that inspired her love of travel and languages...
0:01:54 > 0:01:57..and a Doctor who scared the young Hazel so much
0:01:57 > 0:01:59she hid behind the settee.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01We mustn't let them touch us, must we? No.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03How do we get out of here?
0:02:03 > 0:02:04Before we go any further...
0:02:04 > 0:02:06AS A COMMENTATOR: Yes, I'm here with Hazel
0:02:06 > 0:02:10and it's a wonderful honour for me to be chatting to you,
0:02:10 > 0:02:12sports broadcaster extraordinaire.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14How does it feel to be on the show with me, Brian Conley?
0:02:14 > 0:02:16It's fantastic, Brian.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18Look at that. Goodness, yes.
0:02:18 > 0:02:19That's much better.
0:02:19 > 0:02:21I've always thought with these lip microphones,
0:02:21 > 0:02:23it was not a great aid for television, was it?
0:02:23 > 0:02:25- No.- You couldn't see half the face. But there you go.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28These are still the things that broadcast commentators use.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30When they commentate on the football?
0:02:30 > 0:02:32Lip microphones, they're called. Yeah, yeah.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34- Really?- Major events, we still use them, yeah.
0:02:34 > 0:02:35- Yeah.- Amazing, isn't it?
0:02:35 > 0:02:37Oh, yeah, settle back.
0:02:37 > 0:02:39- Yes, I will.- Relax. Enjoy.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41Are you looking forward to it, a trip down memory lane?
0:02:41 > 0:02:44I'm looking forward to it because some of the...
0:02:44 > 0:02:46Some of the programmes I'm looking forward to seeing again
0:02:46 > 0:02:48because I won't have seen them since I was a kid
0:02:48 > 0:02:51and it's incredible how powerful these things were
0:02:51 > 0:02:54when you were a child and how much they've kind of influenced you
0:02:54 > 0:02:56as you grow up and I don't think you realise it
0:02:56 > 0:02:58until you start to look back a bit
0:02:58 > 0:03:00and you see what you were like then and what you're like now.
0:03:00 > 0:03:02It's quite frightening, actually.
0:03:02 > 0:03:04Did you watch much telly as a child?
0:03:04 > 0:03:05- Er...- Was you allowed to?
0:03:05 > 0:03:09We were allowed to watch some television, yeah, um...
0:03:09 > 0:03:13But we had... We had a little, tiny, portable television set.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- What, in the lounge?- In the lounge. It was no bigger than, I think,
0:03:16 > 0:03:19maybe about 15 inches by 15 inches, really.
0:03:19 > 0:03:22And there are these massive things now that take up whole walls.
0:03:22 > 0:03:24Oh, yeah. It takes up a whole lounge.
0:03:24 > 0:03:2665 inch. There it is.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28Yeah, so that was what we used to watch.
0:03:28 > 0:03:29- Aw!- Yeah.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32Well, today, we're going to watch a selection of classic TV shows
0:03:32 > 0:03:36but, before we do, let's have a little look at a young Hazel.
0:03:36 > 0:03:37Ooh!
0:03:40 > 0:03:43Hazel was born in St Andrews but grew up in Cardross,
0:03:43 > 0:03:47just west of Glasgow, with her mum, Nora, a ceramic artist,
0:03:47 > 0:03:49and her dad, Bill, a lecturer.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54She attended St Andrews University,
0:03:54 > 0:03:57and graduated with an art history degree.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00Her broadcasting career kicked off in the mid-'80s
0:04:00 > 0:04:02at a local Glasgow radio station,
0:04:02 > 0:04:06before she joined ITV to cover the 1988 Olympics in Seoul.
0:04:08 > 0:04:11She started at the BBC a few years later,
0:04:11 > 0:04:14and eventually took over David Vine's Ski Sunday duties,
0:04:14 > 0:04:19establishing herself as one of BBC Sport's main presenters.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23She's brought us golf, snooker, athletics
0:04:23 > 0:04:25and both Winter and Summer Olympics.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28And most recently, she returned to her homeland
0:04:28 > 0:04:31for Glasgow's 2014 Commonwealth Games.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36Does it take you back to... Just a different time, obviously?
0:04:36 > 0:04:38Yeah. It's the hair, isn't it? You always...
0:04:38 > 0:04:41It's the hair that always you think, "Oh, no, what was I doing?"
0:04:41 > 0:04:44But I'm a sort of child of the '80s in terms of my fashion sense,
0:04:44 > 0:04:46with the big shoulders and the feathery haircut
0:04:46 > 0:04:47and all that sort of stuff.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55I want to start with your earliest TV memory now, Hazel.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59This is a huge sporting event that shaped your whole life.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02The 1972 Olympics.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06- There he is.- The man himself.
0:05:06 > 0:05:08This is, of course, Mark Spitz.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10Mark Spitz. The moustachioed wonder kid.
0:05:10 > 0:05:12Look at him.
0:05:12 > 0:05:14Look at the Stars and Stripes trunks.
0:05:14 > 0:05:19Just this fantastic tall, lean, fit guy.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21He even had a concave stomach.
0:05:21 > 0:05:25And I was seven and he was probably the man that shaped...
0:05:27 > 0:05:29..where I am today in terms of my love of sport.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32Mark Spitz became an Olympic legend at the Munich Games,
0:05:32 > 0:05:36winning a then world-record seven gold medals.
0:05:36 > 0:05:38This is the butterfly.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40- Now, this is an absolute killer race.- Yeah.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43He was a master at this particular stroke, but he was so elegant.
0:05:43 > 0:05:45- Leaps and bounds.- Elegant.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49Not only did Spitz win seven golds,
0:05:49 > 0:05:54he also set a new world record time in each event.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57I remember being absolutely enchanted
0:05:57 > 0:06:00with the actual achievement of seven gold medals. Seven!
0:06:00 > 0:06:03Never been done. And it just captured my imagination.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06I remember going off to some of my little clubs and things -
0:06:06 > 0:06:07the Brownies and things after school -
0:06:07 > 0:06:10and everybody talking about Mark Spitz and the Olympics.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12I had a sticker book,
0:06:12 > 0:06:15and it had all the little logos of all the different sports
0:06:15 > 0:06:16and I was fascinated by everything,
0:06:16 > 0:06:19from swimming to Greco-Roman wrestling,
0:06:19 > 0:06:21and that was it for me.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23I wanted to be an athlete.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26I wanted something to do with the Olympics.
0:06:26 > 0:06:28It absolutely captivated me.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37So moving on to your home life now, Hazel.
0:06:37 > 0:06:38Tell me about your living room.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- What was it like...- Um, well... - ..when you were growing up?
0:06:42 > 0:06:44When I was growing up? In the '70s,
0:06:44 > 0:06:48didn't we all have low-slung sofas that kind of did your back in?
0:06:48 > 0:06:51You didn't so much sit on them as slouch on them.
0:06:51 > 0:06:52Yeah. I can't imagine you slouching!
0:06:52 > 0:06:54Yeah, I know, I know. I was a bit of a sloucher.
0:06:54 > 0:06:56Hazel doesn't slouch.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59I can imagine you just running while you're watching the TV.
0:06:59 > 0:07:02- Or playing a game of golf. - No, it was a very small television.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04Oh, of course. I'd forgotten. Yeah.
0:07:04 > 0:07:05But it was a very happy house.
0:07:06 > 0:07:09I had a very, very happy childhood.
0:07:09 > 0:07:14I was very lucky. I still am very lucky to have a mum and dad,
0:07:14 > 0:07:17who've been so interested in my brother and myself,
0:07:17 > 0:07:19and, when you think back on all those times,
0:07:19 > 0:07:21what they are responsible for...
0:07:21 > 0:07:26Huge swathes of everything that I'm interested in, due to my folks.
0:07:26 > 0:07:29But my father was the one, for me,
0:07:29 > 0:07:32that informed my love of the outdoors,
0:07:32 > 0:07:35my love of sport, my love of adventure, my love of language,
0:07:35 > 0:07:37my love of geography,
0:07:37 > 0:07:42because his influence upon us informed all of those things.
0:07:42 > 0:07:44One of the absolute must-see television moments
0:07:44 > 0:07:46of any week was Holiday.
0:07:46 > 0:07:50So Holiday was on and it was the time of Anne Gregg,
0:07:50 > 0:07:51the lovely Anne Gregg.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54Here, Cliff Michelmore anchors the show
0:07:54 > 0:07:56and Anne Gregg is on location in Sicily.
0:07:56 > 0:07:59..for our next report on the island of Sicily.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01Look at the graphics! I love the way the...
0:08:01 > 0:08:03The graphics come in.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05Now, there's an awful lot of history crammed into that island,
0:08:05 > 0:08:09and Anne Gregg set off to discover some of it on a coach tour.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13Around 12 million Brits tuned into Holiday every week.
0:08:13 > 0:08:152,500 years ago,
0:08:15 > 0:08:18the Greeks sailed across the Ionian Sea
0:08:18 > 0:08:21towards the craggy east coast of Sicily.
0:08:21 > 0:08:23They liked what they saw, dropped anchor
0:08:23 > 0:08:26and established a settlement called Naxos.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29I remember my dad saying, "We're going to go there."
0:08:30 > 0:08:33Giardini-Naxos. We stayed there.
0:08:33 > 0:08:35Isn't that amazing?
0:08:36 > 0:08:39There are so many interesting historical sites in Sicily.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41Agrigento is important because it was here
0:08:41 > 0:08:45that Greek civilisation had its heyday in Sicily.
0:08:45 > 0:08:47The town that was here then was called...
0:08:47 > 0:08:50The lovely Anne Gregg. This beautiful, elegant lady.
0:08:50 > 0:08:54And this was at the time when Spain was the package holiday place,
0:08:54 > 0:08:55and we'd been a couple of times,
0:08:55 > 0:08:58but he wanted to break out and do something different.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00When you look back on my early years,
0:09:00 > 0:09:04you will see that we didn't just go places.
0:09:04 > 0:09:05We didn't go and see something.
0:09:05 > 0:09:08We had to get to the top of it. We had to conquer everything!
0:09:08 > 0:09:11So when we went, from the earliest times,
0:09:11 > 0:09:13away in our little caravan into the Scottish Highlands,
0:09:13 > 0:09:15from the earliest years,
0:09:15 > 0:09:16there's my brother and my dad and myself -
0:09:16 > 0:09:19and my mum taking the pictures - somewhere up the top of a hill.
0:09:19 > 0:09:23And I remember, we went to Sicily and we went...
0:09:23 > 0:09:25made a beeline for Mount Etna.
0:09:25 > 0:09:26- Oh!- Yes. Which was interesting.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28This was not with your caravan on the back?
0:09:28 > 0:09:30No, no caravan. We actually flew.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33- Happily, we didn't.- OK. - But he wanted to go and do this
0:09:33 > 0:09:35and my long-suffering mum,
0:09:35 > 0:09:37who was kind of inured to adventure by this point...
0:09:37 > 0:09:39"OK, I'll come."
0:09:40 > 0:09:43We went there and Etna was actually erupting.
0:09:43 > 0:09:45A side vent was erupting.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48- Really?- It was kind of spewing out a little bit of lava,
0:09:48 > 0:09:51but they were still running tours to this lava flow.
0:09:51 > 0:09:53It was extraordinary, when you think about it.
0:09:53 > 0:09:56And about... Possibly about a foot and a half
0:09:56 > 0:10:00under the ground that we were standing on, ie the lava flow,
0:10:00 > 0:10:02was glowing hot and you were allowed on.
0:10:02 > 0:10:04With a guide, you were allowed to go.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07I was absolutely petrified, but totally fascinated by this.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10And there's pictures of us actually up there in this ramshackle old bus,
0:10:10 > 0:10:12along with other people,
0:10:12 > 0:10:15walking on this lava flow, and you can see there's...
0:10:15 > 0:10:19You can see there's smoke and steam coming out,
0:10:19 > 0:10:22not too far in front of us, and this was totally inspiring to me.
0:10:22 > 0:10:26I loved that whole thrill of adventure and I've travelled...
0:10:26 > 0:10:28I've had a real thirst for travel around the world
0:10:28 > 0:10:30and trying to communicate with people
0:10:30 > 0:10:32even when I can't speak their language,
0:10:32 > 0:10:34so thank you very much, Holiday,
0:10:34 > 0:10:37cos I'm sure it played a very significant part in all of that.
0:10:43 > 0:10:44Now for your next choice, Hazel.
0:10:44 > 0:10:48Let see what your must-see TV was back in the day.
0:10:50 > 0:10:52What have I chosen here?
0:10:52 > 0:10:57We Are The Champions ran as a series from 1973 to 1987,
0:10:57 > 0:10:59and was originally hosted
0:10:59 > 0:11:03by former Welsh national athletics coach Ron Pickering.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05The show visited schools around the country,
0:11:05 > 0:11:09pitting pupils against each other in various sporting contests.
0:11:09 > 0:11:14And this was effectively school sports given the Olympic treatment.
0:11:14 > 0:11:18I mean, how good... It just doesn't get any better than that!
0:11:18 > 0:11:21They brought all these wonderful Olympians and sports stars...
0:11:21 > 0:11:24Do you think the titles promised more than the show did?
0:11:24 > 0:11:26When I see it again, they promise a lot.
0:11:31 > 0:11:32We Are The Champions,
0:11:32 > 0:11:36a series of contests between two schools on a knockout basis.
0:11:36 > 0:11:37Don't have to be great athletes -
0:11:37 > 0:11:40everybody scores, everybody has a lot of fun.
0:11:40 > 0:11:41When you're seven or eight
0:11:41 > 0:11:43and the Olympics are coming to your school,
0:11:43 > 0:11:45oh, I longed for it to come to my primary school.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48- Really? - I wanted to be a part of this.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50Everybody starts and finishes.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52Must finish with a hat on.
0:11:52 > 0:11:53What I loved about it...
0:11:53 > 0:11:55Hugely professional, Ron Pickering.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59He wasn't just a great broadcaster - he was an Olympic coach, as well.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02He was an athletics coach, so he knew exactly what he was doing.
0:12:06 > 0:12:07He treated it as a proper event.
0:12:07 > 0:12:09- It was great fun.- Yeah.
0:12:09 > 0:12:10Hopping along a bench?
0:12:10 > 0:12:12Oh, that's death-defying!
0:12:12 > 0:12:14LAUGHTER
0:12:14 > 0:12:16When you see it now, it's just...
0:12:16 > 0:12:18It's just so daft, isn't it?
0:12:18 > 0:12:21But, oh, I loved all that stuff.
0:12:21 > 0:12:22You weren't the only one, Hazel.
0:12:22 > 0:12:25With the series running until 1987,
0:12:25 > 0:12:28then annual specials right up until 1995,
0:12:28 > 0:12:31We Are The Champions was a massive success.
0:12:31 > 0:12:33200 points to 100.
0:12:33 > 0:12:37It's Chalkstone by a nose.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39It was just innocent, good-fun telly.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42What would Hazel like to have won?
0:12:42 > 0:12:44Ooh, the 100 hurdles.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47- Really?- Yes. I was a sprint hurdler.
0:12:47 > 0:12:48That was my thing, yeah.
0:12:48 > 0:12:51But I did huge amounts of sport. It was just something that we did.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53There was always something after school I was doing.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57It was gymnastics, it was athletics, it was swimming, it was everything.
0:12:57 > 0:13:01- Golf?- Golf. I mean, golf, my absolute passion.
0:13:01 > 0:13:02But that was outside school.
0:13:02 > 0:13:05- Now?- To this day, yeah.- You love it? - Love the golf, yeah.
0:13:05 > 0:13:07Are you any good at golf?
0:13:07 > 0:13:09I'm not bad. I'm not bad.
0:13:09 > 0:13:11Right, well I'd better go and get my putter, then.
0:13:11 > 0:13:12Oh, no!
0:13:12 > 0:13:14- Oh!- So...
0:13:14 > 0:13:16- Oh, the putter. OK. - I've got my putter.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19If you'd like to come and join me over here...
0:13:19 > 0:13:21My family did this in the front room.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23This is a wee blast from the past.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26There's our TV That Made Me mug, which I will place about there.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28Little crazy golf obstacles all over our floor
0:13:28 > 0:13:30and we used to play with a putter around the living room.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33- OK, all right.- Just imagine you're on the 18th.- OK. This is...
0:13:33 > 0:13:35There's no pressure here at all, Brian.
0:13:35 > 0:13:37This is to win the TV That Made Me Open.
0:13:37 > 0:13:39I'm not sure of the speed of the greens here.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42I've not had a practice putt, so I'll give it a go.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45Ooh, just kissed the cup.
0:13:45 > 0:13:47Kissed the cup! Not bad, right?
0:13:47 > 0:13:48Excuse me. My go.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50He's going to go closer - I can tell.
0:13:50 > 0:13:51Hazel, I'll let you commentate now.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53OK. Right, Brian.
0:13:53 > 0:13:54Is he going to face the right way?
0:13:54 > 0:13:56Well, that's a good start for Brian.
0:13:56 > 0:13:59Now, this is a man who had a handicap of, um...
0:13:59 > 0:14:01well, 108 until yesterday.
0:14:01 > 0:14:02I've got to get it straight.
0:14:02 > 0:14:04Which is unusual for a handicap,
0:14:04 > 0:14:06given that they don't start there.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09If I get this, Hazel, you're going to be so upset because you didn't.
0:14:09 > 0:14:11This is for the Claret Jug, Brian.
0:14:11 > 0:14:12Oh!
0:14:12 > 0:14:14Yeah! Oh, it bounced out. Give me that.
0:14:14 > 0:14:16- Give me that.- Well done, mate. - APPLAUSE
0:14:16 > 0:14:19Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
0:14:19 > 0:14:21See, I've always been better at commentating
0:14:21 > 0:14:24than I have at playing it, that's for sure,
0:14:24 > 0:14:25but I still love my golf.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27I think you just cracked under pressure there.
0:14:27 > 0:14:29I must have done. Yeah, usually do. Competition.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38Now, Hazel, we're going to move on to your comedy hero.
0:14:38 > 0:14:39- Oh, right.- Mm-hm.
0:14:39 > 0:14:41One of my favourites, as well.
0:14:41 > 0:14:43Is it? A legend. Yeah. Here he is.
0:14:43 > 0:14:44Dick Emery.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47An Englishman's home is his castle
0:14:47 > 0:14:49but due to the population explosion,
0:14:49 > 0:14:51even castles are getting overcrowded these days.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55The Dick Emery Show ran from 1963 to 1981.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58In this episode, Gordon Clyde is interviewing locals
0:14:58 > 0:15:00on the housing shortage.
0:15:00 > 0:15:03Cue Emery's hilarious comedy portrayal
0:15:03 > 0:15:05of larger-than-life characters.
0:15:06 > 0:15:08- LAUGHTER - Excuse me, sir.
0:15:08 > 0:15:09Oh, hello, honky-tonk. How are you?
0:15:09 > 0:15:12- Very well, thank you. - Nice to see you.- Thank you.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14- I'm asking people about housing. - Oh, yes?
0:15:14 > 0:15:16Is that how people dress in Scotland?
0:15:16 > 0:15:17LAUGHTER
0:15:17 > 0:15:20Only on a special occasion, Brian, obviously.
0:15:20 > 0:15:22Tell me, do you have a house of your own?
0:15:22 > 0:15:25Well, not really. I share one with five other fellas.
0:15:25 > 0:15:27- LAUGHTER - We call it Henry VIII Cottage.
0:15:27 > 0:15:28Really? Why's that?
0:15:28 > 0:15:30Cos there's six old queens living there.
0:15:30 > 0:15:32LAUGHTER
0:15:34 > 0:15:37There were some fantastic writers who were part of this, weren't they?
0:15:37 > 0:15:38I mean, wasn't Mel Brooks part of it?
0:15:38 > 0:15:40- That's right, yeah.- Oh, dear.
0:15:40 > 0:15:42- There were so many characters that he came up with.- I know.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45A man of many faces and characters, wasn't he?
0:15:45 > 0:15:47It was Mandy. "You are awful but I like you."
0:15:47 > 0:15:50- "Oh, you are awful but I like you." - That was the one that everybody did.
0:15:50 > 0:15:52Everybody did it at school, didn't they?
0:15:52 > 0:15:54- Here we go.- Here she is.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56Emery had a clutch of characters,
0:15:56 > 0:15:58from the vicar to the bovver boy
0:15:58 > 0:16:00and, of course, the busty blonde bombshell, Mandy.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02Oh, well, it's no problem to me
0:16:02 > 0:16:04because my uncle's just left me two 14-roomed houses
0:16:04 > 0:16:07and I'm thinking of selling them.
0:16:07 > 0:16:09Well, you are lucky to have a couple of big ones like that.
0:16:09 > 0:16:11- LAUGHTER - Pardon?
0:16:11 > 0:16:14Well, there must be a lot of people dying to get their hands on them.
0:16:14 > 0:16:15Oh, you are awful.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17But I like you!
0:16:18 > 0:16:23Total nonsense and just daft but, to be fair, Dick Emery...
0:16:23 > 0:16:26I think he spawned a whole new generation of sketch shows.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28I liked The Goodies, as well,
0:16:28 > 0:16:30that sort of anarchic nonsense, as well.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32But I also liked Kenny Everett.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35I'm a child of the time in that regard.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38That's what was in front of us and that's the stuff we enjoyed.
0:16:45 > 0:16:47We've talked about the telly that made you laugh,
0:16:47 > 0:16:50- but what about the telly that made you scared?- Oh, yes.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52One programme in particular, Hazel.
0:16:52 > 0:16:56Yes. Yes, I'm bristling at the thought.
0:16:56 > 0:17:00Well, Doctor Who was something we used to watch all the time.
0:17:00 > 0:17:03It was usually a Saturday night, about tea-time, I reckon.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06But there was one episode and one thing...
0:17:06 > 0:17:09And I think it was probably when I was about seven or eight,
0:17:09 > 0:17:11and it was called The Green Death.
0:17:11 > 0:17:13There were fluorescent green...
0:17:15 > 0:17:16What would you call them?
0:17:16 > 0:17:19..slugs, that bit you, and when they did,
0:17:19 > 0:17:22they inflicted upon you the Green Death -
0:17:22 > 0:17:24a long, slow, tortuous death
0:17:24 > 0:17:27in which you became green, fluorescent and died.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30And we would watch it from behind the sofa, my brother and I,
0:17:30 > 0:17:31petrified of it all.
0:17:31 > 0:17:33Are you... Are you up for it now?
0:17:33 > 0:17:36Are you sure this is wise?
0:17:36 > 0:17:39Hazel...The Green Death.
0:17:40 > 0:17:42Doctor, here, quickly!
0:17:42 > 0:17:46In this episode from 1973, the Doctor, played by Jon Pertwee,
0:17:46 > 0:17:48with Jo Grant, played by Katy Manning,
0:17:48 > 0:17:51are trying to escape the Green Death.
0:17:52 > 0:17:53- SHE GASPS - Look at that!
0:17:56 > 0:17:57Oh, my word!
0:17:59 > 0:18:01Look at that. How terrifying is that?
0:18:01 > 0:18:02That is menacing, you know?
0:18:02 > 0:18:05You wouldn't be able to run away from them, would you.
0:18:05 > 0:18:07Ooh, look at them wriggling! Oh, they had teeth.
0:18:07 > 0:18:09- Look, they did have teeth.- Urgh!
0:18:13 > 0:18:15There's no way out.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16Nil desperandum, Jo.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19Doctor, those things crawling around in that green stuff.
0:18:19 > 0:18:20You saw what happened to the others.
0:18:20 > 0:18:22We mustn't let them touch us, must we?
0:18:22 > 0:18:23Now, how do we get out of here?
0:18:23 > 0:18:25Jon Pertwee, eh?
0:18:25 > 0:18:29Isn't amazing how things trigger fears and insecurities?
0:18:29 > 0:18:32I've never been all that fond of creepy crawlies
0:18:32 > 0:18:33and I'm just wondering whether...
0:18:33 > 0:18:36- Oh, right.- Whether it was Doctor Who that did it.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43Hazel, in the words of Monty Python,
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- and now for something completely different.- Oh!
0:18:48 > 0:18:50THEME TUNE STARTS HAZEL LAUGHS
0:18:50 > 0:18:51Cagney & Lacey.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54Oh, yes. There they are!
0:18:54 > 0:18:57Brilliant! Sharon Gless, Tyne Daly.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59Two feisty ladies.
0:18:59 > 0:19:03For 125 episodes throughout the '80s,
0:19:03 > 0:19:05these amazing ladies kept us entertained.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11I love the titles, by the way. Look at this. They just...
0:19:11 > 0:19:13They just got on so well as characters
0:19:13 > 0:19:15but also, apparently, in real life as well,
0:19:15 > 0:19:17they're very good friends. I loved this bit. She's...
0:19:17 > 0:19:20Yeah, I would probably have been looking in at that coat as well.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25But I just love the fact that they were ordinary women
0:19:25 > 0:19:27doing a kind of extraordinary job.
0:19:27 > 0:19:29You have to put it in the context
0:19:29 > 0:19:32that all of the detective shows at the time...
0:19:32 > 0:19:35We had Starsky & Hutch and we had The Professionals.
0:19:35 > 0:19:39It was all real red-blooded, male machismo stuff, wasn't it?
0:19:39 > 0:19:42You didn't see any women in there, especially doing that,
0:19:42 > 0:19:44running through a train carriage with guns
0:19:44 > 0:19:46and all that sort of stuff.
0:19:46 > 0:19:47I loved that - the fact they were
0:19:47 > 0:19:50just so totally nonplussed by that bloke at the end.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52Fantastic. "Just get a life!"
0:19:52 > 0:19:53I just loved that.
0:19:53 > 0:19:54And this is great.
0:19:54 > 0:19:56Their boss is good.
0:19:56 > 0:19:57"Get back to work."
0:20:00 > 0:20:01Brilliant!
0:20:01 > 0:20:04I never figured out how come Mad happened to see our car
0:20:04 > 0:20:06the day he told us about the drug buy.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09Central to the series was the relationship these detectives
0:20:09 > 0:20:12had with their boss, Lieutenant Samuels,
0:20:12 > 0:20:13and with each other.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16Not only was Cagney & Lacey a brilliant cop show,
0:20:16 > 0:20:20but it often explored personal and emotional issues, too,
0:20:20 > 0:20:23which set it apart from similar shows.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26Well, sir, in fairness, the shoulder did feel better.
0:20:26 > 0:20:27Go get it.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30I loved Sharon Gless because she was so vulnerable, wasn't she?
0:20:30 > 0:20:33She played this really tough, hard-nosed woman
0:20:33 > 0:20:36but she was so emotionally vulnerable,
0:20:36 > 0:20:40and she really wanted what Tyne Daly's character had.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42She really yearned for kids and a family,
0:20:42 > 0:20:45and this programme tackled a lot of social issues
0:20:45 > 0:20:48that we weren't really used to seeing.
0:20:48 > 0:20:49You know, women who want it all -
0:20:49 > 0:20:52they want motherhood and they want a career.
0:20:52 > 0:20:56And it tackled alcoholism and it tackled breast cancer, actually.
0:20:56 > 0:21:00So there were so many things it addressed from a female perspective
0:21:00 > 0:21:03that had never really been discussed on national television.
0:21:03 > 0:21:07So it was a very influential piece of television.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09- Mm.- And of its time, yeah.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11And something that influenced you.
0:21:11 > 0:21:13I guess, subliminally.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16I didn't make decisions on the basis of watching Cagney & Lacey...
0:21:16 > 0:21:19- No, no.- But it was... - Didn't go around killing anyone.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21And I didn't come the tough guy.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25But you have to put yourself back to about 1986,
0:21:25 > 0:21:27when I was coming out of university,
0:21:27 > 0:21:29cos that was the year that Maradona's hand of God
0:21:29 > 0:21:32put out England in the World Cup. Fergie married Prince Andrew.
0:21:32 > 0:21:35The M25 was opened.
0:21:35 > 0:21:39That was a long, long time ago, but that's where we were in those days.
0:21:39 > 0:21:44There weren't really that many female role models on television
0:21:44 > 0:21:48and the sort of dual-gender sports broadcasting world
0:21:48 > 0:21:52that we are now was not the same then.
0:21:52 > 0:21:54I remember being asked numerous questions
0:21:54 > 0:21:56when I first went into television.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58"What's it like being a woman in a man's world?"
0:21:58 > 0:21:59I got this constantly -
0:21:59 > 0:22:01"Woman in a man's world, woman in a man's world."
0:22:01 > 0:22:04Eventually, I got so sick of even trying to tackle the subject,
0:22:04 > 0:22:07for years, I never even talked about it, I just got on and did the job.
0:22:07 > 0:22:10But if someone asks me that question now, I'm not.
0:22:10 > 0:22:13I'm no longer a woman in a man's world
0:22:13 > 0:22:17because I am surrounded by so many other female broadcasters in sport.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20So we are in a completely different time,
0:22:20 > 0:22:25so Cagney & Lacey, to me, kind of sums up why it was unusual
0:22:25 > 0:22:28to see women in such high-profile roles on the telly,
0:22:28 > 0:22:31and that's the kind of essence of it.
0:22:36 > 0:22:40Now it's time to look at the beginnings of your own TV career.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43- Kind of dreading this one. - Why do you cringe?
0:22:43 > 0:22:45- Why?- Well, you'll probably see why I...
0:22:45 > 0:22:46Oh, no, I'm just about to cringe.
0:22:48 > 0:22:52Scotsport was the world's longest-running sports show
0:22:52 > 0:22:54and gave Hazel her big TV break.
0:22:54 > 0:22:56The cup final is undoubtedly the highlight...
0:22:56 > 0:22:59Oh, look at that. Look at the shoulder pads!
0:22:59 > 0:23:01..a very long and hard season in Scotland.
0:23:01 > 0:23:03You look like you've got someone else in jacket with you, don't you?
0:23:03 > 0:23:05LAUGHTER
0:23:05 > 0:23:10I was the first woman that had ever worked as a mainstream presenter
0:23:10 > 0:23:15of a sports programme, and particularly a football programme.
0:23:15 > 0:23:18There was nobody else doing it in Great Britain. And we had a ball,
0:23:18 > 0:23:20we had a fantastic time.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22For one ex-Celtic player and manager,
0:23:22 > 0:23:24his work is only just beginning.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27The small town of Lillestrom is situated
0:23:27 > 0:23:30some 20km from the Norwegian capital...
0:23:30 > 0:23:34Oh, Lillestrom! This is the first foreign report I ever did.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36And it's where David Hay is now living and working
0:23:36 > 0:23:39as the manager of the town's local football team,
0:23:39 > 0:23:41Lillestrom Sporting Club.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43Happy days and happy times.
0:23:43 > 0:23:45And a good learning curve for you?
0:23:45 > 0:23:47A huge learning curve, yeah.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49Our producer was a guy called Andy Melvin,
0:23:49 > 0:23:52who kind of thrashed journalistic discipline into me
0:23:52 > 0:23:56and taught me an awful lot of lessons about football
0:23:56 > 0:23:58and about the vocabulary
0:23:58 > 0:24:01and about the journalistic way of writing your scripts
0:24:01 > 0:24:03and doing so quickly and under pressure.
0:24:03 > 0:24:05And, in between all this,
0:24:05 > 0:24:10I was asked to audition for ITV's Olympics of 1988.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13So I worked alongside the great Dickie Davies.
0:24:13 > 0:24:15- Oh, wow. - Which was an extraordinary thing.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18When you think about it, and I'm sure everybody remembers Dickie
0:24:18 > 0:24:20and I didn't realise, I was so young, he was practically
0:24:20 > 0:24:23holding my hand the whole time. He was looking out for me.
0:24:23 > 0:24:26When I think back on that, how generous was that?
0:24:26 > 0:24:30A senior broadcaster, who had been in the game for an awful long time,
0:24:30 > 0:24:33actually taking pleasure in the fact
0:24:33 > 0:24:36that I'd learned something under his watch. So, thank you, Dickie.
0:24:36 > 0:24:38So, proudest moment, then?
0:24:38 > 0:24:39Proudest moment...
0:24:39 > 0:24:44Well, I guess it all comes together for me at the London 2012 Olympics,
0:24:44 > 0:24:46as it did for so many other people
0:24:46 > 0:24:48and probably for everybody here today
0:24:48 > 0:24:49and a lot of people watching at home.
0:24:49 > 0:24:54It was the absolute culmination of everything that my career
0:24:54 > 0:24:59- and indeed my interest in life had been building towards.- Mm-hm.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02I was given the nod to do the commentary alongside Huw Edwards
0:25:02 > 0:25:04at the 2012 Olympic opening ceremony.
0:25:04 > 0:25:06Oh, wow.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10And it was one of the most terrifying, wonderful experiences
0:25:10 > 0:25:12of my whole life, as you'd imagine.
0:25:12 > 0:25:19And whilst obviously Huw has the gravitas and the news journalism
0:25:19 > 0:25:23and the background for that, I was there to help, er...
0:25:23 > 0:25:26bring to life some of the sporting aspects of the ceremony
0:25:26 > 0:25:30and to be a part of it too. That night for me, it was... Oh!
0:25:30 > 0:25:33I've done, what, 13 Olympics now but that was the 12th one,
0:25:33 > 0:25:37and for me to have done masses and masses of research -
0:25:37 > 0:25:39there's 205 nations -
0:25:39 > 0:25:41Trying to find out about all the nations coming in,
0:25:41 > 0:25:44having something to say about their stars, their history,
0:25:44 > 0:25:47their interests and, again, it's the geography.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50It's all of - my interest in language - it's all coming together.
0:25:50 > 0:25:55I remember enjoying it so vividly and the images and the music
0:25:55 > 0:25:58and the noises and the smells.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00It will stay with me forever.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02It was a brilliant, brilliant moment.
0:26:08 > 0:26:11So, Hazel, what do you enjoy watching currently, at the moment?
0:26:11 > 0:26:15Besides your sport, how do you switch off?
0:26:15 > 0:26:18Yeah, I'm a real Scandi-noir girl.
0:26:18 > 0:26:19I love Scandic-noir.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22All the stuff that's coming out of Denmark and Sweden.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25The Bridge - brilliant, it's a Danish/Swedish collaboration.
0:26:25 > 0:26:29And The Killing was one of my favourites as well,
0:26:29 > 0:26:32and also Borgen from Denmark as well.
0:26:32 > 0:26:34Which is a kind of West Wing in Denmark.
0:26:34 > 0:26:38Very clever, beautifully acted and so I love all that.
0:26:38 > 0:26:40I think it's really great.
0:26:40 > 0:26:43- My kind of guilty pleasure, Brian, would be...- Go on.
0:26:43 > 0:26:45..The Apprentice.
0:26:45 > 0:26:46- Ah, The Apprentice.- Yeah.
0:26:46 > 0:26:48- And the reason is...- You're fired.
0:26:48 > 0:26:50Well, yeah, all that.
0:26:50 > 0:26:54I think you sign up for that, you know what you're signing up for.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57These guys all know what they're in for,
0:26:57 > 0:26:59and I know there's a lot of shouting and bawling
0:26:59 > 0:27:03and having a go at one another, but is a bit of a guilty pleasure.
0:27:03 > 0:27:04I'm forced to watch it on my own
0:27:04 > 0:27:07because the rest of my family won't watch it with me.
0:27:07 > 0:27:09So it is a sort of secret guilty pleasure.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12So have you gone full circle and now you're back in the kitchen,
0:27:12 > 0:27:14watching it on a very small little screen?
0:27:14 > 0:27:15Yes, that's the one thing
0:27:15 > 0:27:18I allow myself on my laptop to sit and watch.
0:27:18 > 0:27:21So we give our guests the opportunity now to pick a theme tune
0:27:21 > 0:27:23- for us to play out on.- Oh, right.
0:27:23 > 0:27:25What's it going to be?
0:27:25 > 0:27:27- Well, I think there's really only one.- Mm-hm?
0:27:27 > 0:27:29And it's got to be Grandstand, hasn't it?
0:27:29 > 0:27:30HE GASPS
0:27:30 > 0:27:32I love... Look, it's got a gasp from our audience here.
0:27:32 > 0:27:35- Well, it's kind of dear departed, really.- Yeah.
0:27:35 > 0:27:38But it was a programme that was so influential
0:27:38 > 0:27:41in my upbringing because it had all the best bits and Final Score
0:27:41 > 0:27:44and you watched it every Saturday, you couldn't miss it.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47To have had the opportunity to present it for 15 years or so
0:27:47 > 0:27:51was a real honour. I count myself very lucky to have done it.
0:27:51 > 0:27:53Well, it's been a real honour having you with us.
0:27:53 > 0:27:56Thank you very much, Brian. Thank you so much for having me.
0:27:56 > 0:27:58- It's been great.- Thank you. - Pleasure, thank you.
0:27:58 > 0:27:59- My thanks to Hazel.- Thank you.
0:27:59 > 0:28:02And my thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me.
0:28:02 > 0:28:04- We'll see you next time, bye-bye. - Bye-bye.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07THEME FROM GRANDSTAND PLAYS