0:00:02 > 0:00:04TV, the magic box of delight.
0:00:04 > 0:00:06As kids, it showed us a million different worlds
0:00:06 > 0:00:08all from our living room.
0:00:09 > 0:00:12- So funny!- That was state-of-the-art.
0:00:12 > 0:00:14- Aah!- I loved this.
0:00:15 > 0:00:16'Each day, I'm going to journey
0:00:16 > 0:00:19'through the wonderful world of telly...'
0:00:19 > 0:00:22- Cheers.- '..with one of our favourite celebrities...'
0:00:22 > 0:00:24- 'We're going into space.' - It is just so silly.
0:00:24 > 0:00:25Oh, no!
0:00:28 > 0:00:31- Yeah!- '..as they select the iconic TV moments...'
0:00:33 > 0:00:35- My God, this is the scene!- Oh, dear.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38'..that tell us the stories of their lives.'
0:00:39 > 0:00:42- I absolutely adore this. - 'Some will make you laugh...'
0:00:42 > 0:00:44Don't watch the telly, Esther, watch me.
0:00:44 > 0:00:46- '..some will surprise...' - HE LAUGHS
0:00:46 > 0:00:49No way, where did you find this?
0:00:50 > 0:00:51'..many will inspire...'
0:00:51 > 0:00:55It used to transport us to places that we could only dream about.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57'..and others will move us.'
0:00:57 > 0:01:01- I am emotional now. - 'Today, we look even more deeply.'
0:01:01 > 0:01:02Why wouldn't you want to watch this?
0:01:02 > 0:01:06So, come watch with us as we rewind to the classic telly
0:01:06 > 0:01:09that helped shape those wide-eyed youngsters
0:01:09 > 0:01:11into the much-loved stars they are today.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21- APPLAUSE - Welcome to The TV That Made Me.
0:01:21 > 0:01:24My guest today knows a thing or two about television.
0:01:24 > 0:01:28He is the one and only Mr Richard Arnold.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31Richard! Welcome, welcome to my flat.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33Thank you. Thank you.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36A radio and TV presenter for over 20 years,
0:01:36 > 0:01:40Richard's made a career of knowing about what's on the box,
0:01:40 > 0:01:42working as a TV critic for GMTV
0:01:42 > 0:01:45and most recently, as the entertainment editor
0:01:45 > 0:01:47on Good Morning Britain.
0:01:49 > 0:01:54The TV that made him includes a very fashionable costume drama,
0:01:54 > 0:01:56an inspirational talk show legend...
0:01:56 > 0:01:59A veritable maelstrom of emotional carnage.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02..and a TV show that kicked off his career.
0:02:02 > 0:02:06Bless her heart. Well, Tina, who am I to refuse a damsel in distress?
0:02:06 > 0:02:10Richard, you must know more about TV than anyone else does.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13I mean, you're famed for being a TV critic, you know,
0:02:13 > 0:02:15- and your magazine articles, things like that.- Yeah.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18So, you should be an expert on this show.
0:02:18 > 0:02:21See this is where you're always put...
0:02:21 > 0:02:24under the cosh when people assume that you have seen absolutely
0:02:24 > 0:02:26every hour of television over the last 30 years.
0:02:26 > 0:02:28- I probably have, but I can't remember a lot of it.- Mm-hm.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30You know, being at Good Morning Britain every day
0:02:30 > 0:02:33as well, you fill your head with all sorts of nonsense,
0:02:33 > 0:02:35so I always have to clear a space.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37Do you find, when you're watching telly,
0:02:37 > 0:02:40that you're constantly critiquing it, you're constantly sort of...
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- pulling it apart...- These days.- ..or you can relax?- Well, these days...
0:02:43 > 0:02:46I sort of drift in and out of consciousness mostly these days
0:02:46 > 0:02:48when I'm watching it, to be quite honest.
0:02:48 > 0:02:51LAUGHTER It's interesting because, obviously,
0:02:51 > 0:02:52filming a lot behind the scenes
0:02:52 > 0:02:55certainly on the big shows of today like Strictly Come Dancing,
0:02:55 > 0:02:56having been a part of that show even
0:02:56 > 0:02:57was fantastic.
0:02:57 > 0:02:59Once you get invited through that door -
0:02:59 > 0:03:01and it's a real privilege -
0:03:01 > 0:03:02and you see how it all works,
0:03:02 > 0:03:05it takes away some of the mystique, but on the other hand, it's like...
0:03:05 > 0:03:07you know, I can still sit there and watch an episode
0:03:07 > 0:03:09of EastEnders or Coronation Street
0:03:09 > 0:03:11and feel like I'm in The Vic or feel like I'm in The Rovers.
0:03:11 > 0:03:13You know, even though I've actually been there myself
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- and know there's only three walls. - Shh! Don't burst their bubble.
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- No, don't burst their bubble. - Well, today is a celebration
0:03:19 > 0:03:20of your favourite TV moments.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23- Oh, you will have me tearing up. - Really?- Yeah.- Do you think so?
0:03:23 > 0:03:26- Oh, yeah.- Yeah?- I love pressing that nostalgia button.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29You know, when you start talking about TV of old,
0:03:29 > 0:03:31it takes you right back. It's the best therapy...
0:03:31 > 0:03:34- We're going to need a bigger couch, though.- You think so? Why?
0:03:34 > 0:03:36- Well, cos if I'm in therapy, I like to stretch out.- OK.
0:03:36 > 0:03:38- You can stretch out. - I can stretch out?
0:03:38 > 0:03:40- You're good with that, aren't you? - Yeah.- Yeah.
0:03:40 > 0:03:43- Of course he is. Of course he is. - Well, before we get started,
0:03:43 > 0:03:46we're going to find out a little bit more about the young Richard Arnold.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- Right, OK. - Have a little look at this.
0:03:49 > 0:03:54Born in 1969 in Hampshire, Richard grew up with his mum, Dot,
0:03:54 > 0:03:57and his dad, Dave, who was a helicopter engineer.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00The family moved to Aberdeenshire when he was 11,
0:04:00 > 0:04:03and he went on to study at Edinburgh University.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06After uni, Richard headed to London to take a course
0:04:06 > 0:04:08in journalism.
0:04:08 > 0:04:11This would eventually lead to him getting the job that would shape the
0:04:11 > 0:04:16rest of his career when he became a reporter for Inside Soap magazine.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21Richard's first TV gig was The Sunday Show in 1995,
0:04:21 > 0:04:26and he's been a familiar face on our screens ever since.
0:04:26 > 0:04:28- Takes you back, doesn't it? - Doesn't it?
0:04:28 > 0:04:30TV, for us, was appointment to view.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33It was actually quite unifying.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35We always ate our dinner or whatever at the table,
0:04:35 > 0:04:38but we went to the TV, obviously, and gathered around it.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40And we would watch shows as a family.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42I'm an only child, so it was me, Dot and Dave.
0:04:42 > 0:04:43And they're still with us, you know.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45And we still to this day, whenever they come and stay,
0:04:45 > 0:04:48we'll sit down and watch the big shows like Strictly and X Factor.
0:04:48 > 0:04:50- Yeah?- And the dramas and all that sort of...
0:04:50 > 0:04:52How did they feel about you being on Strictly, Mum and Dad?
0:04:52 > 0:04:55Ooh, they loved it. Well, I think my dad knew very early on
0:04:55 > 0:04:57I was never going to kick a ball around, Brian, so...
0:04:57 > 0:04:59LAUGHTER
0:04:59 > 0:05:02When he knew, you know, I had a good sense of colour, fashion
0:05:02 > 0:05:03and a bit light on my feet, you know,
0:05:03 > 0:05:07it came as no surprise that I ended up under that glitter ball.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15- I want to take you back to your earliest TV memory now, Richard.- OK.
0:05:15 > 0:05:17I'm not going to say any more,
0:05:17 > 0:05:19but let's have a little look, shall we?
0:05:23 > 0:05:26- Ooh.- La Maison de toutou.
0:05:26 > 0:05:27- Yes.- The letterbox.
0:05:27 > 0:05:28I'd forgotten that.
0:05:28 > 0:05:30It was originally a production
0:05:30 > 0:05:31from France.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33- Was it? I had no idea.- Yeah, yeah.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35They added British voices at a later date.
0:05:35 > 0:05:38DOG WHISTLES
0:05:38 > 0:05:39Why are you whistling, Hector?
0:05:39 > 0:05:41I'm calling Mrs Frog. I'm bored.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43- I feel like some company. - Oh, Hector.
0:05:43 > 0:05:45First broadcast in the UK in the '60s,
0:05:45 > 0:05:50Hector's House was a popular but rather basic hand puppet show.
0:05:50 > 0:05:51..Mr Hector calling.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54- That's brilliant!- Oh, the frog. - I'm regressing.- The frog.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56I know, I'm regressing.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58Weren't we easily pleased? LAUGHTER
0:05:58 > 0:05:59We really were.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01The funny thing, this is the sort
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- of thing you can watch now and it's quite hypnotic, isn't it?- Yeah.
0:06:04 > 0:06:08This gentle children's TV series featured Hector the Dog,
0:06:08 > 0:06:11Zsazsa the Cat and Kiki the Frog,
0:06:11 > 0:06:15as they got up to all sorts of adventures in Hector's back garden.
0:06:16 > 0:06:19Nothing there? Oh, well, the postman hasn't been yet.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- Let's go and put it in the box. - Oh, yes.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23What do you think of the puppetry? It's hilarious.
0:06:23 > 0:06:28Well, it's state-of-the-art. It's state-of-the-art, who needs CGI(?)
0:06:28 > 0:06:30- I don't.- What's not to love?
0:06:30 > 0:06:33Could you imagine children today enjoying it?
0:06:33 > 0:06:37STAMMERS: I think if you take these devices out of their hands
0:06:37 > 0:06:40and stuff, you know, their imagination is just as vivid
0:06:40 > 0:06:41as it was...
0:06:41 > 0:06:43Goodness knows we needed imagination to fill in the gaps here,
0:06:43 > 0:06:45didn't we, when we were younger?
0:06:45 > 0:06:47Do you know what I mean? I wonder where those puppets are.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50They're probably in an attic with a lot of old memories.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- HECTOR CLEARS THROAT READS:- "My dear Hector..."
0:06:52 > 0:06:54- "My dear Hector..." - Yes, my dear Hector.
0:06:54 > 0:06:58"You are a great big old Hector..." Ha, you see, they know me.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59Oh, yes.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01So, this is a very young Richard just getting
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- engrossed into Hector's House, was it?- Mm-hm. Yeah.- Yeah?
0:07:04 > 0:07:07Well, it was the narrative, very tightly woven plots,
0:07:07 > 0:07:10Brian, that got me into it, I think(!)
0:07:10 > 0:07:12LAUGHTER It was utterly gripping.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15I wish there had been an omnibus, let's put it that way.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18- Hector's House, you'd watch that with your mum and dad or...?- Yes.
0:07:18 > 0:07:21- Yeah?- Yeah, Hector's House, something like that
0:07:21 > 0:07:23or there were other shows
0:07:23 > 0:07:26that were on at the time, it always reminded me of sort of
0:07:26 > 0:07:27being off games, if you like.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- You know, when you were ill. - Oh, right, yeah.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32At school, so you'd come home, and it was back in the days
0:07:32 > 0:07:34when, you know, your mum would put you on the sofa
0:07:34 > 0:07:37- and they'd throw a fizzy drink at you. We know the brand.- Yeah.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40And, "You'll be all right." What could possibly go wrong?
0:07:40 > 0:07:43Because, of course, they used to let you run free in the sunshine back
0:07:43 > 0:07:44then without any protection.
0:07:44 > 0:07:46My poor mum is going to... HE LAUGHS
0:07:46 > 0:07:48I'm going to be across her knee for this.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Yeah, and then she'd slap on a bit of calamine lotion.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52So it was back then when they thought...
0:07:52 > 0:07:54Fizzy drink, that will cure all ills.
0:07:54 > 0:07:56So, it just reminds me of... In fact, rather than the coffee,
0:07:56 > 0:07:58we should have one of those on the go here now,
0:07:58 > 0:08:00cos that would take me right back.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03- I'll get foetal and start sucking my thumb.- Oh, really?- Yeah.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05- Oh, well, it just so happens... - LAUGHTER
0:08:05 > 0:08:09- You better enjoy your coffee.- Is that extra?- Yeah, yeah.- Brilliant.
0:08:13 > 0:08:16We're going to go to Must See TV.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19- And before we...- Oh, my God.
0:08:19 > 0:08:24..we have Must See TV, there is a little clue as to what it might be.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27- You sure this goes on the afternoon? - Yeah, yeah.
0:08:27 > 0:08:30Can you guess what the show might be if we've given you this?
0:08:30 > 0:08:33- If you've given me this?- No, no, no. You've got a little...
0:08:33 > 0:08:35Is this like a dressing gown that I wore in my misspent youth
0:08:35 > 0:08:38while I watched my favourite show?
0:08:38 > 0:08:41- Well, I believe it's someone on that show...- Right.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44..who used to wear something very similar to that.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47- Come on.- Yeah, it's what I'm thinking about.- It's Dallas.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50It's Dallas. Right. OK, yeah, this is my favourite show of all time.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52I actually go to Southfork, well,
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- have done for the last six years, every year.- Every year?- Every year.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- Like...to pay homage? - Well, yes, yeah! Give it a dust.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00- Should we have a little look? - Yeah, go on.
0:09:00 > 0:09:02Take me back, take me back. Here's a bit of Dallas.
0:09:04 > 0:09:09Debuting in 1978 as a five-part miniseries, the original run of
0:09:09 > 0:09:14Dallas was extended and went on to air for over 13 seasons
0:09:14 > 0:09:18between 1978 and 1991.
0:09:18 > 0:09:21Thanks to its gripping sensational storylines,
0:09:21 > 0:09:24Dallas was a huge success and went on to be dubbed
0:09:24 > 0:09:26in 67 languages,
0:09:26 > 0:09:29broadcasting in more than
0:09:29 > 0:09:3190 countries.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35I'm a complete Dallas aficionado/fan.
0:09:35 > 0:09:37It was the show that we watched as a family, again,
0:09:37 > 0:09:39because you had to stay in for television then.
0:09:39 > 0:09:42So, this was obviously pre-the VCR or whatever.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45And so, when it started in 1978,
0:09:45 > 0:09:47I remember sitting down and watched it.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50Then, of course, the whole shooting of JR thing happened in 1980,
0:09:50 > 0:09:51and it all took off. And I would sit in a...
0:09:51 > 0:09:53HE LAUGHS
0:09:53 > 0:09:55..not something too dissimilar.
0:09:55 > 0:09:58- It was like a sort of quilted silk dressing gown.- Right.
0:09:58 > 0:10:01You know, on Dallas, JR's favourite drink was bourbon and branch,
0:10:01 > 0:10:04which is like a Scotch and water, I suppose, isn't it? Whatever.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06So, I would...
0:10:06 > 0:10:10get Mum to put lots of ice in Coca-Cola
0:10:10 > 0:10:12so that when he drank, I would drink.
0:10:12 > 0:10:14And it would rattle like it does on the show.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16Like a young person's drinking game, isn't it?
0:10:16 > 0:10:20HE LAUGHS That's where it started.
0:10:20 > 0:10:23- Well, we have a scene here, and it involves Larry Hagman.- Go on.
0:10:23 > 0:10:27Slightly risque. Well, you can almost see everything.
0:10:27 > 0:10:29Well, just keep spreading the Bs, boy.
0:10:29 > 0:10:30'Yes, sir.'
0:10:30 > 0:10:32Booty, booze and broads.
0:10:32 > 0:10:33The first thing you taught me
0:10:33 > 0:10:34a good lobbyist likes.
0:10:34 > 0:10:36Oh, close your...
0:10:36 > 0:10:37- BOTH:- Ooh!
0:10:37 > 0:10:39That could have gone either way.
0:10:39 > 0:10:43Oil baron JR Ewing was only meant to be a supporting role,
0:10:43 > 0:10:47but this addictive villain proved hugely popular with viewers
0:10:47 > 0:10:49and soon became a lead.
0:10:50 > 0:10:52Brilliantly played by Larry Hagman,
0:10:52 > 0:10:59JR was the only character to appear in all 357 episodes.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02- Well, what have we here? - GLASS CLINKS
0:11:02 > 0:11:04Now, that's a dressing gown, Richard.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07Well, it's a little closer to what I normally wear at home, actually.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10- Really?- Yeah, the company I keep is marginally different.
0:11:10 > 0:11:12LAUGHTER
0:11:12 > 0:11:15- But the gaping kimono, I do own. - Really?- Yes, I do own. Yes.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18So, did you have a favourite character within the show?
0:11:18 > 0:11:21It was Linda Gray, Sue Ellen and JR.
0:11:21 > 0:11:22It was all about them for me.
0:11:22 > 0:11:26But what about when it came back and it was all a dream?
0:11:26 > 0:11:28- Oh, Bobby? Yeah, the shower?- Yeah.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31In one of the most bizarre plot lines ever seen on primetime
0:11:31 > 0:11:35television, Bobby Ewing returned to Dallas a year after being
0:11:35 > 0:11:37killed off.
0:11:37 > 0:11:39And the explanation of his return -
0:11:39 > 0:11:41that the whole previous season's
0:11:41 > 0:11:42events had been a dream.
0:11:46 > 0:11:47Good morning.
0:11:47 > 0:11:48How did that sit with you?
0:11:48 > 0:11:52- I loved it cos it was great to see Patrick Duffy back.- Yes.
0:11:52 > 0:11:53So, I would forgive them anything,
0:11:53 > 0:11:56if it was getting the whole family back together,
0:11:56 > 0:11:57so that didn't bother me.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00I managed to suspend disbelief. I mean, I think the show went
0:12:00 > 0:12:03a little downhill then, but nevertheless, I stuck with it
0:12:03 > 0:12:05all the way to the end. Watched every episode.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08You are without doubt a Dallas expert,
0:12:08 > 0:12:10so we would like to put you to the test right now.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12I'd like to remind everyone that you actually did this...
0:12:12 > 0:12:15this is your specialist subject on Mastermind.
0:12:15 > 0:12:16- Yeah, it was, yeah.- It was.
0:12:16 > 0:12:19Starting now. After the initial pilot episodes of Dallas,
0:12:19 > 0:12:22Duncan Acres became the location for which fictional Texas ranch,
0:12:22 > 0:12:24the home of the Ewing family?
0:12:24 > 0:12:25- Southfork Ranch.- Yes.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28- Richard.- Yes. - This is your Dallas quiz.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31- STOPWATCH CLICKS - When JR was first shot
0:12:31 > 0:12:35on March 21st, 19...
0:12:35 > 0:12:36- '80.- See, you know all that.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38..who did it?
0:12:38 > 0:12:43Was it Kristin Shepard, Sue Ellen, Cliff Barnes or Miss Ellie?
0:12:43 > 0:12:46- Kristin Shepard.- Absolutely correct.- Sue Ellen's sister. Yes.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52- HE LAUGHS - Won that.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56- That is your...that is your... - Do I have to put it on?- Yes, you do.
0:12:56 > 0:12:58I'm not sure it goes with my kimono, but I'll give it a shot, Brian,
0:12:58 > 0:13:00just cos I'm a big fan.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03Shall I just put it on my nose? I mean, we'll just do that.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05OK, we are good.
0:13:06 > 0:13:08- Name... - AUDIENCE LAUGHS
0:13:08 > 0:13:10This is a serious quiz, ladies and gentlemen.
0:13:10 > 0:13:13I'm on a knife's edge, ladies and gentlemen, here.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16- Well, my career is, anyway.- Name... - THEY LAUGH
0:13:16 > 0:13:22- Name the Dallas spin-off series that ran from 1979 to 1993.- That...
0:13:22 > 0:13:24- Was it...? Oh, you don't even need these.- Go on.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27..Santa Barbara, Knots Landing,
0:13:27 > 0:13:29The Colbys, The Ewings?
0:13:29 > 0:13:32It was Knots Landing, and I've been there too. Three times.
0:13:32 > 0:13:37- A cul-de-sac in California.- Great. - Yep.- You've upgraded now.- Have I?
0:13:37 > 0:13:39To a slightly bigger hat. You can take that one off.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42- Well, that might work. I can take that one off, can I?- Yes.- Right.
0:13:42 > 0:13:46Oh, OK. Right, I might have to wear at a jaunty angle for now.
0:13:46 > 0:13:47Is that all right?
0:13:47 > 0:13:50Which Academy award-winning actress replaced
0:13:50 > 0:13:54Barbara Bel Geddes in the role of Miss Ellie for just one season?
0:13:54 > 0:13:57Was it A - Donna Reed, B - Elizabeth Taylor,
0:13:57 > 0:14:00C - Jessica Tandy or D - Katharine Hepburn?
0:14:00 > 0:14:02The late great Donna Reed.
0:14:02 > 0:14:07- Donna Reed. - APPLAUSE
0:14:07 > 0:14:11We're getting there. HE CHUCKLES
0:14:11 > 0:14:16In 1987, which Hollywood heart-throb had an early role as Randy,
0:14:16 > 0:14:18the boyfriend of Charlie Wade?
0:14:18 > 0:14:21Was it A -Brad Pitt, B - Johnny Depp,
0:14:21 > 0:14:24C - John Cusack or D - Ben Affleck?
0:14:25 > 0:14:29- Brad Pitt.- That is correct. - Yeah, yeah, that's right.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33APPLAUSE
0:14:33 > 0:14:35- OK, slightly bigger. - Well, it's a bit...
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- It's Tex-Mex, I'll give you that. It's Tex-Mex.- Final question.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42Name all four Ewing brothers.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44Gary, Ray, Bobby and JR.
0:14:44 > 0:14:46- Absolutely right. - Thank you very much.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48Do I get the full ten gallons now?
0:14:50 > 0:14:53LAUGHTER
0:14:53 > 0:14:54Did you win this in a raffle?
0:14:56 > 0:14:59- Your applause, please... - APPLAUSE
0:14:59 > 0:15:01- ..to the king of Dallas.- Thank you.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04The man who pretty much knows it all. Well done indeed.
0:15:04 > 0:15:05Thank you, ma'am.
0:15:14 > 0:15:18Can I show you something now that is very intimidating to a young
0:15:18 > 0:15:20Richard Arnold?
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- And it is Hammer House Of Horror. - HE SIGHS
0:15:24 > 0:15:27EERIE MUSIC
0:15:27 > 0:15:29In 1980, the well-known British
0:15:29 > 0:15:31film company Hammer Films
0:15:31 > 0:15:35decided to branch out and make a series of scary short stories for TV
0:15:35 > 0:15:38and so, Hammer House Of Horror was born.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41EERIE MUSIC CONTINUES
0:15:41 > 0:15:43Did you find the title scary?
0:15:43 > 0:15:47The music is taking me back a bit, but it's that statue one, isn't it?
0:15:47 > 0:15:50- It's the little... - Charlie Boy.- Charlie Boy, yeah.
0:15:50 > 0:15:51All of that sort of stuff.
0:15:51 > 0:15:53I mean, I can't watch any horror films.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55I mean, watching it now, it seems a bit kitsch,
0:15:55 > 0:16:01but as a youngster, you know, my imagination was far too furtive...
0:16:01 > 0:16:03- I can't wait forever. - 'Raise your share of the money.'
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- I can't wait...- 'The money, Graham.' - ..forever.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07'Can't wait forever, you know.'
0:16:07 > 0:16:11This terrifying episode centres on an African wooden carving
0:16:11 > 0:16:16nicknamed Charlie Boy, a voodoo doll with an appetite for death.
0:16:16 > 0:16:18See, you wouldn't see that on Hector's House.
0:16:18 > 0:16:20LAUGHTER
0:16:20 > 0:16:21I mean, that's not ideal, is it,
0:16:21 > 0:16:23if you're watching this and you're 11 years old?
0:16:23 > 0:16:27It's so funny, though, that I remember this one in particular.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29It was the statue. It's like clowns, you know,
0:16:29 > 0:16:31there's something inherently sinister about,
0:16:31 > 0:16:35or I find anyway, clowns and statues and...
0:16:36 > 0:16:38I mean, this is fine. This is Black Beauty.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40- We can live with this. - Yeah, we can live with this.
0:16:40 > 0:16:43And it's much safer than watching it on Poldark,
0:16:43 > 0:16:45cos he is always too near the cliff. LAUGHTER
0:16:45 > 0:16:46- It's right, though, isn't it?- Yeah.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49- Always too near the cliff on the horse.- I'm feeling tense, though.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53- Are you feeling tense?- I'm feeling tense, yeah, but I think it's...
0:16:53 > 0:16:55I think it's the sofa, Brian. Oh!
0:16:55 > 0:16:57AUDIENCE GROAN Oh, no!
0:16:58 > 0:17:01What could possibly go wrong, ladies and gentlemen(?)
0:17:03 > 0:17:07Oh! Oh, look. Yeah, that's right, they cut back to statue every time.
0:17:07 > 0:17:10EVERYONE SCREAMS
0:17:10 > 0:17:12Oh, yeah, that's not ideal.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14That must've hurt.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17Course, because it's like the 1970s, your mum would go,
0:17:17 > 0:17:18"Oh, don't make a fuss."
0:17:18 > 0:17:22- Yeah.- Yeah. "Kiss it, it'll get better."- Yeah.- Yeah.
0:17:23 > 0:17:26Many actors who appeared on Hammer House Of Horror
0:17:26 > 0:17:29went on to become familiar faces on our TV screens
0:17:29 > 0:17:31like Norman Beaton, who we fondly
0:17:31 > 0:17:32think of as the lovable
0:17:32 > 0:17:36hairdresser Desmond Ambrose in the Channel 4 show Desmond's.
0:17:41 > 0:17:43Jeff Rawle also starred in an episode.
0:17:43 > 0:17:44Most of us remember him
0:17:44 > 0:17:47as a long-suffering George from Drop The Dead Donkey,
0:17:47 > 0:17:49although the kids will probably know him
0:17:49 > 0:17:52as the evil Silas from Hollyoaks.
0:17:55 > 0:17:58And would you believe award-winning Scottish actor Brian Cox
0:17:58 > 0:18:00even featured on the show?
0:18:00 > 0:18:03Nowadays, he is all about Hollywood blockbusters
0:18:03 > 0:18:05and top TV dramas like War And Peace.
0:18:09 > 0:18:11Even the dashing Pierce Brosnan
0:18:11 > 0:18:12got in on the action.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14Long before Remington Steele
0:18:14 > 0:18:15or Bond,
0:18:15 > 0:18:17this suave Irish actor appeared
0:18:17 > 0:18:21as the character called Last Victim.
0:18:21 > 0:18:22Catchy.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- My goodness me, yeah.- So, as a child, you had a vivid imagination.
0:18:25 > 0:18:27Yeah, very vivid imagination.
0:18:27 > 0:18:30Yeah, I think... Also I had a lot of Legos, like most kids growing up,
0:18:30 > 0:18:31and I had a Legos village set out.
0:18:31 > 0:18:37And because I was into my telly back then as well, I would actually...
0:18:37 > 0:18:40do a TV chart, like a ratings chart, of the top ten shows
0:18:40 > 0:18:42for my little town that they were watching.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45I had a set of pens, coloured pens - used to love all of that -
0:18:45 > 0:18:48and I would to the logos exactly as they were on the telly.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52Like Magnum PI, you know, all those shows that I loved.
0:18:52 > 0:18:54So, yeah, like I said, I had to fill in a lot of blanks
0:18:54 > 0:18:56when I was a nipper because I was the only one around.
0:18:56 > 0:18:59Does it...move you? Does it upset you?
0:18:59 > 0:19:01- What, being the only one around? - Yeah.- No, I used to love it!
0:19:01 > 0:19:04Because, you know, I had loads of mates.
0:19:04 > 0:19:08I think that's a bit of a myth about only children, to be honest.
0:19:08 > 0:19:09Cos I was actually much more social
0:19:09 > 0:19:12cos I was always out and about, you know?
0:19:12 > 0:19:14But on the other hand, I do...
0:19:14 > 0:19:16It's interesting because I love my job now
0:19:16 > 0:19:18and I love being out and about,
0:19:18 > 0:19:22but I also love coming home.
0:19:22 > 0:19:23I remember...
0:19:23 > 0:19:25Speaking of Strictly again,
0:19:25 > 0:19:27we were at the National TV Awards one year and it was the year
0:19:27 > 0:19:31that I was lucky enough to be in Strictly, so it was 2012.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34And it was up for a gong, obviously, as Best Show and Tess Daly,
0:19:34 > 0:19:37lovely woman, came up to me on the red carpet cos I was reporting on it
0:19:37 > 0:19:39as well and she said, "Richard, if we win,
0:19:39 > 0:19:42"we will get you up on stage."
0:19:42 > 0:19:44And I thought, "OK, all right."
0:19:44 > 0:19:46What I didn't have the heart to tell her is that
0:19:46 > 0:19:49I wasn't going to go into the awards because I had a fast car waiting to
0:19:49 > 0:19:52get me home cos it is so much nicer watching the awards at home.
0:19:52 > 0:19:54And of course, they won! The only time I would have been up
0:19:54 > 0:19:57on the stage, you know, at the National TV Awards.
0:19:57 > 0:19:59- But I'm quite a homebody.- Yeah?
0:19:59 > 0:20:01Yeah, once I get behind that door, I'm like,
0:20:01 > 0:20:04"OK, we chill out now."
0:20:04 > 0:20:06Yeah. "We relax." So, I think that's probably where the only child
0:20:06 > 0:20:09thing lingers, is I'm very happy in my own company.
0:20:09 > 0:20:11Yeah.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17- And we're going to do an Advert Break now.- OK.
0:20:17 > 0:20:19It's a VW advert.
0:20:19 > 0:20:23- Oh, OK, right.- Starring... - Is this Paula...?- ..Paula Hamilton.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26- Yeah, yeah, I do remember this. - Yeah.- Oh, this was great.
0:20:26 > 0:20:32# Everyone is going through changes... #
0:20:32 > 0:20:33I can't believe you found this.
0:20:33 > 0:20:35# And no-one knows what's going on. #
0:20:35 > 0:20:38It's almost 30 years since Paula Hamilton reached the heights
0:20:38 > 0:20:40of her modelling career,
0:20:40 > 0:20:43starring in one of the most iconic TV ads of the '80s.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45She going to keep that fur coat?
0:20:45 > 0:20:48I think we've all had days like this, haven't we, ladies?
0:20:48 > 0:20:50Or dates that have gone wrong like that?
0:20:50 > 0:20:53So, she's, obviously, not in the best of moods.
0:20:53 > 0:20:54Look at the shoulder pads on that.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56Thinks about dropping the keys through the drain,
0:20:56 > 0:20:59but she's not going to give up the motor.
0:20:59 > 0:21:00And there she goes.
0:21:02 > 0:21:05Now, which one of us hasn't re-enacted that moment?
0:21:05 > 0:21:07LAUGHTER
0:21:07 > 0:21:12# But the world goes on the same. #
0:21:14 > 0:21:17And also, I think you hear the music then.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20Adverts around that time in the '80s
0:21:20 > 0:21:22had soundtracks, effectively, didn't they?
0:21:22 > 0:21:24And the songs became hits off the back of them,
0:21:24 > 0:21:29so Sam Cooke, the old Levi's adverts, you know?
0:21:29 > 0:21:31It sort of all caught on.
0:21:31 > 0:21:38You know, these songs suddenly became big hits off the back of,
0:21:38 > 0:21:40you know, obviously, being in adverts.
0:21:46 > 0:21:50Now, Richard, we are moving onto your Family Favourite.
0:21:52 > 0:21:55'This is my boss, Jonathan Hart.'
0:21:55 > 0:21:57Oh, used to love this show!
0:21:57 > 0:22:00Frothy amateur detective drama Hart to Hart
0:22:00 > 0:22:03starred Robert Wagner and Stephanie Powers.
0:22:03 > 0:22:05'This is Mrs H. She's gorgeous...'
0:22:05 > 0:22:08They were a fabulously rich couple who were forever finding
0:22:08 > 0:22:11themselves in the middle of a mystery.
0:22:11 > 0:22:17And the late Lionel Stander joined them as their loyal servant Max.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21'Which ain't easy cos their hobby is...murder.'
0:22:21 > 0:22:23This is actually, ladies and gentlemen,
0:22:23 > 0:22:26this is the first show we ever recorded on the VCR, right?
0:22:26 > 0:22:29And I remember, we got it... I think we got the...
0:22:29 > 0:22:33'82, '83 and I remember to this day,
0:22:33 > 0:22:35Mum and Dad are sat
0:22:35 > 0:22:37and I go forward -
0:22:37 > 0:22:38cos it's one of those old VCRs
0:22:38 > 0:22:41where you've got to actually lean forward and press the buttons -
0:22:41 > 0:22:42and the minute I pressed record,
0:22:42 > 0:22:45I turned around to Mum and Dad and say, "Shh, shh,"
0:22:45 > 0:22:48cos I thought their voices were going to come out on the machine.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51LAUGHTER
0:22:51 > 0:22:53True story.
0:22:53 > 0:22:55If I'm feeling a little bit flat in the afternoon or something,
0:22:55 > 0:22:58you know, and I put a bit of a brew on,
0:22:58 > 0:22:59I could sit in Hoover this stuff up.
0:22:59 > 0:23:01You know, just absolutely love it.
0:23:01 > 0:23:04It is like putting on a little blanket and just...
0:23:04 > 0:23:06Actually, it demands nothing of you. Look at the lack of frenzy.
0:23:06 > 0:23:09This is the look I was trying to achieve this morning.
0:23:09 > 0:23:11Stephanie Powers look, obviously.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14I think she looks absolutely beautiful in it.
0:23:14 > 0:23:17As though the killer being here was no surprise.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21HE SNIFFS
0:23:21 > 0:23:24- You getting a cold? - No.- You're sniffling.
0:23:24 > 0:23:28The hugely popular series had a five-season run
0:23:28 > 0:23:30followed by eight TV movies.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32Viewers lapped up the killer chemistry
0:23:32 > 0:23:37between Powers and Wagner as they made solving crimes sexy.
0:23:38 > 0:23:41- Amazing. Look at that. And they were a terrific couple.- They were.
0:23:41 > 0:23:45- They had a wonderful partnership. - Wonderful chemistry.- Yeah.
0:23:45 > 0:23:46Rather like us today, Brian.
0:23:46 > 0:23:48Yes, darling, yeah.
0:23:48 > 0:23:49Oh, hello!
0:23:51 > 0:23:53- Jennifer.- Hm?
0:23:53 > 0:23:55Take a look at this.
0:23:55 > 0:23:56What?
0:23:56 > 0:23:58- Notice anything unusual?- No.
0:23:58 > 0:24:02Jonathan and Jennifer's super sleuthing saw them solve cases
0:24:02 > 0:24:08involving smuggling, theft, international espionage and murder.
0:24:08 > 0:24:09I think they're in my closet.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13LAUGHTER
0:24:13 > 0:24:14Brilliant stuff.
0:24:14 > 0:24:16Absolutely fantastic.
0:24:16 > 0:24:20And the first part of the show always ended in the body, obviously,
0:24:20 > 0:24:23being found. He's dead, or she's dead. "Oh, my God, he's dead."
0:24:23 > 0:24:25"Oh, my God, she's dead." That was basically it, wasn't it?
0:24:25 > 0:24:28And then it would take them another two parts to unravel it.
0:24:28 > 0:24:32So, what do you think sucked you in? What gripped you so much?
0:24:32 > 0:24:34Was it - once again, like Dallas - the glamour, you know?
0:24:34 > 0:24:38- I mean, it was the '80s.- Cos it was very glamorous, wasn't it?
0:24:38 > 0:24:40Yeah, I mean, the '80s... Obviously, growing up
0:24:40 > 0:24:44as a teenager in the '80s, much of the TV that you watched,
0:24:44 > 0:24:49or that came from America, was aspirational...
0:24:49 > 0:24:53viewing, you know? It was... The sitcom was the dominant genre,
0:24:53 > 0:24:56I suppose, in the 1970s, but then when the '80s kicked off for me
0:24:56 > 0:24:58and I was thrust into the perils of pubescence,
0:24:58 > 0:25:01I found myself hooked on these sort of shows.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04I used to love them. Absolutely loved anything
0:25:04 > 0:25:05that came out of the States.
0:25:10 > 0:25:13Well, we've got something now that's got plenty frocks
0:25:13 > 0:25:14and the odd shock.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22RICHARD LAUGHS Oh, it's The House Of Eliott!
0:25:22 > 0:25:26This 1920s period drama followed the fate of two sisters
0:25:26 > 0:25:29after their philandering father dies,
0:25:29 > 0:25:31leaving them penniless.
0:25:31 > 0:25:35The sisters set their sights on starting up a dressmaking business.
0:25:35 > 0:25:38I'll have it sorted out in a minute.
0:25:38 > 0:25:39Louise Lombard, was it?
0:25:39 > 0:25:42- Yes, she was. Louise Lombard. - Yeah, Louise Lombard. Yeah.
0:25:42 > 0:25:45- It's been a very heavy day for all of us.- Right.
0:25:45 > 0:25:49Um, right, well, there were 36 garments in the small store.
0:25:49 > 0:25:53- Now, they're undamaged. - Only 36?- I'm afraid so.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55- The House Of Eliott. Sunday nights.- Yeah.
0:25:55 > 0:25:58And it was such kitsch viewing.
0:25:58 > 0:26:01So, two women, obviously, setting up their own fashion house,
0:26:01 > 0:26:03which was The House Of Eliott.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05French and Saunders did a fantastic spoof of it
0:26:05 > 0:26:07called The House Of Idiot. LAUGHTER
0:26:07 > 0:26:09You know what French and Saunders are like, God bless them.
0:26:09 > 0:26:13They got it absolutely bang on. Every episode would sort of open
0:26:13 > 0:26:16- with a penny-farthing coming into view.- Yeah.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18Um, it was all that sort of business.
0:26:18 > 0:26:20But with a bit of overtime here and at Bayswater,
0:26:20 > 0:26:23I reckon we could make up the lost time in about eight weeks.
0:26:23 > 0:26:24As soon as that?
0:26:24 > 0:26:28- I think that's a little optimistic. - Well, everyone's keen to try.
0:26:29 > 0:26:32Well, I think we better err on the side of caution and say ten weeks.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35- Don't you agree?- Yes, I do.
0:26:35 > 0:26:38This became quite... It got quite a big following
0:26:38 > 0:26:43because it was, you know, a very kitsch sort of show.
0:26:43 > 0:26:44People couldn't understand
0:26:44 > 0:26:47why it was so popular, I think, and it became...
0:26:47 > 0:26:49- It was the Downton of its day, if you like.- Yeah, yeah.
0:26:49 > 0:26:51Or certainly in a similar slot.
0:26:51 > 0:26:53It's something you watched religiously?
0:26:53 > 0:26:56Yeah, we used to watch it on Sunday nights. I'd just moved to London.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59We were living hand-to-mouth, so we would always be staying in.
0:26:59 > 0:27:02You know what I mean? Eating tuna pasta bake or whatever.
0:27:02 > 0:27:05I was living with two friends at the time, Shona and Louise,
0:27:05 > 0:27:09- and the three of us would re-enact scenes.- Really?- Yeah.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12- With your Lego?- Not with the Lego. LAUGHTER
0:27:12 > 0:27:15I was 22 by that point. LAUGHTER
0:27:15 > 0:27:17So, about two years before that, I'd put it in the loft.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20Yeah, we used to love it. It was terrific.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22Absolutely terrific.
0:27:22 > 0:27:24- That takes me right back, that does.- Aw.
0:27:24 > 0:27:28I mean, this was a costume drama, so were you into fashion?
0:27:28 > 0:27:33Not really into fashion, you know, um, but I loved...
0:27:33 > 0:27:36- Again, I suppose it is that sort of glamour...- Is it the romance?
0:27:36 > 0:27:38..the romance, yeah. I loved all...
0:27:38 > 0:27:41You know, like A Passage To India, A Jewel In The Crown.
0:27:41 > 0:27:42- Loved all those shows.- Mm-hm.
0:27:42 > 0:27:46Give me a sweeping saga, and as you say, frocks and shocks,
0:27:46 > 0:27:49- and I'm a happy man.- Yeah.
0:27:49 > 0:27:53And they're vintage, you know. Perhaps House Of Eliott less so,
0:27:53 > 0:27:55with the greatest of respect to the creative team behind it.
0:27:55 > 0:27:58But when you think about Brideshead Revisited
0:27:58 > 0:27:59and shows like that, I mean,
0:27:59 > 0:28:02I just think we set the standard in this country.
0:28:02 > 0:28:04So, I do, I love shows like that.
0:28:04 > 0:28:06So, when did you last see The House Of Eliott?
0:28:06 > 0:28:08I bought the box set. LAUGHTER
0:28:08 > 0:28:11- I've bought the box set. - Really?- Yeah.
0:28:11 > 0:28:14So, rather embarrassingly, I think just before Christmas.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17Is there any room left in your house, Richard?
0:28:17 > 0:28:20Um, yeah, well, I'm very lucky to have space outside
0:28:20 > 0:28:23that I can lock everything in, as it's my other half.
0:28:23 > 0:28:25Cos you can't have all that tat floating around.
0:28:25 > 0:28:29Um, but, yeah, I bought that. I... Yeah.
0:28:29 > 0:28:32But I'm terrible. As I say, you see that these things,
0:28:32 > 0:28:33these old shows that we love,
0:28:33 > 0:28:35start coming out on DVD and you think,
0:28:35 > 0:28:38"Ooh, that'll take me back. That'll take me back."
0:28:38 > 0:28:41Do you think it was the soap of the sort of 1920s, you know?
0:28:41 > 0:28:43Yeah! It's a frothy narrative, isn't it?
0:28:43 > 0:28:45Again, it doesn't require much of you.
0:28:45 > 0:28:47Let's face it - Sunday night is bath night,
0:28:47 > 0:28:49so you've already got a lot on your plate.
0:28:49 > 0:28:51So, I'd be sat there with cheese on toast watching that
0:28:51 > 0:28:54and then, obviously, rinse out my tights to go to work the next day.
0:28:54 > 0:28:57- You'd have the dressing gown on? - I'd have my dressing gown on.
0:28:57 > 0:28:59- LAUGHTER I did indeed.- Yeah, that's a must.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02As The House Of Eliott proved, we Brits love a show
0:29:02 > 0:29:04set in a different era.
0:29:04 > 0:29:06Just look at Downton Abbey.
0:29:06 > 0:29:09For five years, millions of us were hooked.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12We soaked up the lives of the Crawley family
0:29:12 > 0:29:16and their servants, set from 1912 until 1926.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21Moving on a decade and we hit
0:29:21 > 0:29:24All Creatures Great And Small.
0:29:24 > 0:29:26We lapped up this smash hit drama
0:29:26 > 0:29:29set in the 1930s through to the 1950s,
0:29:29 > 0:29:32as over 20 million of us tuned in
0:29:32 > 0:29:36to follow the adventures of a veterinary office in Yorkshire.
0:29:37 > 0:29:39The series Born And Bred
0:29:39 > 0:29:41was also set in the 1950s.
0:29:41 > 0:29:44Based in a Lancashire cottage hospital,
0:29:44 > 0:29:46it centred around a city doctor
0:29:46 > 0:29:48and his village GP father.
0:29:50 > 0:29:53We were then transported to the swinging '60s
0:29:53 > 0:29:55in the comedy series Hippies.
0:29:55 > 0:29:57Starring Simon Pegg and Sally Phillips,
0:29:57 > 0:30:00this sitcom lasted just six episodes.
0:30:01 > 0:30:03The 1970s was the setting
0:30:03 > 0:30:05for the sitcom The Kennedys.
0:30:05 > 0:30:09It followed a family living in a new housing estate in Stevenage
0:30:09 > 0:30:12and desperately trying to climb the social ladder.
0:30:12 > 0:30:16Finally, we reach the excesses of the 1980s.
0:30:16 > 0:30:19This was the decade that defined the drama Money,
0:30:19 > 0:30:22an adaptation of Martin Amis's cult novel.
0:30:27 > 0:30:31Richard, we're going for your Biggest TV Influence now.
0:30:31 > 0:30:34I won't say anything, but have a look at this.
0:30:34 > 0:30:35Here he is. The governor.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:30:37 > 0:30:41- Aw.- He is a legend, isn't he? - Yeah, absolutely.
0:30:41 > 0:30:43Compliments of the season to you, my people,
0:30:43 > 0:30:45and a very happy Christmas.
0:30:45 > 0:30:46In the decade that Wogan aired,
0:30:46 > 0:30:49this hit talk show pulled in the biggest stars.
0:30:49 > 0:30:53Generally broadcast live, the late, great Sir Terry
0:30:53 > 0:30:57'was known for his unflappable and humorous interviewing skills.'
0:30:57 > 0:31:00This is a Dallas one. I've got this on VHS.
0:31:00 > 0:31:03- I've got this on VHS! - You are unbelievable.- Yes.
0:31:03 > 0:31:06A good old Texas boy, John Ross Ewing Jr,
0:31:06 > 0:31:08otherwise known as Larry Hagman.
0:31:08 > 0:31:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:31:11 > 0:31:13I can almost quote it word for word.
0:31:13 > 0:31:17You cracked the old whip, didn't you, by bringing back Bobby?
0:31:17 > 0:31:20Well, no. No, not at all. I...
0:31:20 > 0:31:22My whole modus operandi
0:31:22 > 0:31:24was to get the show back to where it was a year ago.
0:31:24 > 0:31:26Because it had slumped in the ratings?
0:31:26 > 0:31:28Not because it had slumped in the ratings.
0:31:28 > 0:31:29Because it wasn't any fun any more.
0:31:29 > 0:31:33- An absolute master of his game, Wogan.- Yeah.
0:31:33 > 0:31:35- And remember, this show was going out live...- Mm-hm.
0:31:35 > 0:31:38- ..at minimum of three times a week, wasn't it? You know?- Yeah.
0:31:38 > 0:31:40- I know that. I used to do the warm ups.- Did you?
0:31:40 > 0:31:43Not all the time, but I used to do the Terry Wogan warm ups.
0:31:43 > 0:31:45- Yeah.- It's all of your yesteryears as well.
0:31:45 > 0:31:47That's the wonderful thing. We're very lucky.
0:31:47 > 0:31:51I've come from a cul-de-sac in rural Aberdeenshire, really.
0:31:51 > 0:31:55And so to end up working alongside people like Wogan...
0:31:55 > 0:31:57- Your good self, even.- Oh.
0:31:57 > 0:32:01Just being around it all, it's such an enormous privilege.
0:32:01 > 0:32:03And Wogan, I just remember listening to on the radio.
0:32:03 > 0:32:05Mum always had Wogan on.
0:32:05 > 0:32:08And obviously, growing up...
0:32:08 > 0:32:10Cos I would have been about sort of 13, 14, 15
0:32:10 > 0:32:12around this time anyway, so it was hugely influential.
0:32:12 > 0:32:14I had no idea what I wanted to do.
0:32:14 > 0:32:16Kids these days are much more driven, I think,
0:32:16 > 0:32:19certainly when it comes to getting work experience
0:32:19 > 0:32:21and getting out there in the big, wide world.
0:32:21 > 0:32:22I had no idea what I wanted to do.
0:32:22 > 0:32:24And just watching this,
0:32:24 > 0:32:27- I used to pretend I was being interviewed by him.- Oh, no.
0:32:27 > 0:32:31I was an only child, Brian, so you had to make a lot of it up,
0:32:31 > 0:32:34fill in the blanks, and I used to pretend I was being interviewed.
0:32:34 > 0:32:36- There was no singing in a hairbrush for me.- No.
0:32:36 > 0:32:39But there was sort of, you know, imagining being interviewed,
0:32:39 > 0:32:41- rather like you're doing now. - Yeah.- Yeah.
0:32:41 > 0:32:44Um, and Wogan was always my preferred...
0:32:44 > 0:32:47No disrespect, but, you know... LAUGHTER
0:32:47 > 0:32:49He's a cocky devil, isn't he?
0:32:49 > 0:32:51- Why would you say that? - LAUGHTER
0:32:51 > 0:32:53There is something about his demeanour.
0:32:53 > 0:32:55What do you think of Wogan's technique?
0:32:55 > 0:32:58He just... He has... He had a...
0:32:58 > 0:33:01- His charm.- Mm-hm.- You know?
0:33:01 > 0:33:04I think it was that twinkle in the eye, his charm,
0:33:04 > 0:33:07- he sort of affectionately ribbed people.- Mm-hm.
0:33:07 > 0:33:09It felt very inclusive.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12You know, I just think, as I say, a master of his game.
0:33:14 > 0:33:15He was indeed.
0:33:15 > 0:33:18Legendary entertainer Sir Terry Wogan started his career
0:33:18 > 0:33:22on Irish radio before joining the BBC in the mid-'60s.
0:33:24 > 0:33:28Thanks to his quick wit, wisdom and charm,
0:33:28 > 0:33:32he became a broadcasting superstar of both radio and television.
0:33:33 > 0:33:36Sir Terry could turn his hand to anything,
0:33:36 > 0:33:40from fronting a hit game show to co-hosting Children In Need.
0:33:41 > 0:33:43Not only did the world's biggest celebrities
0:33:43 > 0:33:46flock to be interviewed by the great man...
0:33:47 > 0:33:50..his Radio 2 breakfast show regularly boasted
0:33:50 > 0:33:54eight million listeners, including the Queen,
0:33:54 > 0:33:57which made him the most popular radio host in Europe.
0:33:57 > 0:34:00Speaking of Europe, Sir Terry was, of course,
0:34:00 > 0:34:04famed for his cheeky commentary on the Eurovision Song Contest.
0:34:06 > 0:34:09Yeah, I think I've made a little mistake.
0:34:09 > 0:34:10That's OK. You're fired.
0:34:11 > 0:34:14Without doubt one of the most popular
0:34:14 > 0:34:16and best-loved broadcasters in Britain,
0:34:16 > 0:34:18Sir Terry, we miss you.
0:34:20 > 0:34:23So, as a young man, Richard Arnold will be looking at this
0:34:23 > 0:34:27dreaming of being the Terry Wogan interviewing many guests.
0:34:27 > 0:34:28Yeah, absolutely.
0:34:28 > 0:34:31As I say, the fact that I've ended up being in a position
0:34:31 > 0:34:33to interview all these big names over the years -
0:34:33 > 0:34:36could be sportsmen, you're shaking hands with prime ministers,
0:34:36 > 0:34:39- you've met all your TV heroes... - Yeah.
0:34:39 > 0:34:41..it's extraordinary.
0:34:41 > 0:34:44I mean, who have you been in awe of when...?
0:34:44 > 0:34:47- You know, present company... - LAUGHTER
0:34:47 > 0:34:50- Oh, I'm a bag of nerves just sat here opposite you.- I know, I know.
0:34:50 > 0:34:54But is there...you know, that's really sort of touched you?
0:34:54 > 0:34:56I think, for me, yeah,
0:34:56 > 0:35:01I remember there are two standout ones in recent years.
0:35:01 > 0:35:06I was flown to New York to interview Barbra Streisand.
0:35:06 > 0:35:07StreisAND.
0:35:07 > 0:35:09And...
0:35:09 > 0:35:12Cos I called her Barbra Streisand, which you tend to do in Britain.
0:35:12 > 0:35:14Of course, she's quick to correct. She said, "It's StreisAND."
0:35:14 > 0:35:16But she was wonderful.
0:35:16 > 0:35:18You get showed into the room. You're sat there and she's there.
0:35:18 > 0:35:21There's this lighting rig going on. Everything is fabulous.
0:35:21 > 0:35:23Anyway, it's a very hot day in New York.
0:35:23 > 0:35:26It's early autumn and we're in this hotel, as I say.
0:35:26 > 0:35:28The lights are up
0:35:28 > 0:35:30and I started to get a bead of sweat on my top lip.
0:35:30 > 0:35:33It wasn't nerves at all because I think if you've done your prep -
0:35:33 > 0:35:35and obviously being a big Barbra fan,
0:35:35 > 0:35:39which may come as a shock to you... LAUGHTER
0:35:39 > 0:35:42..I was, you know, giddy more than anything. Really excited.
0:35:42 > 0:35:45Anyway, the interview, I think, is going really, really well
0:35:45 > 0:35:47and she's tittering away.
0:35:47 > 0:35:49She said, "You're my leading man for today."
0:35:49 > 0:35:51I thought "Great, I'll have that."
0:35:51 > 0:35:55And she then stopped the interview.
0:35:55 > 0:35:59And she just leant forward with a tissue and mopped my top lip
0:35:59 > 0:36:02and she said, "We've got to take care of each other, right?"
0:36:02 > 0:36:05- It was unbelievable. I was like... - Lovely.
0:36:05 > 0:36:06Extraordinary.
0:36:06 > 0:36:08- And the second time was also in New York.- You've got a bogey.
0:36:08 > 0:36:11Have I got a...? Have I? LAUGHTER
0:36:14 > 0:36:17She did with a bit more panache.
0:36:17 > 0:36:20Well done. She did it with... And there it is.
0:36:22 > 0:36:26- I love the way you bit. "Have I? Have I?"- Yeah.
0:36:28 > 0:36:31We were in Tony Bennett's apartment in New York.
0:36:31 > 0:36:35- Oh, my God.- My dad thought I'd won the World Cup. This was his idol.
0:36:35 > 0:36:38And it was extraordinary being shown into Tony Bennett's apartment.
0:36:38 > 0:36:40You've got a piano. There's presidents on the piano.
0:36:40 > 0:36:42Not literally, obviously. Pictures of them.
0:36:42 > 0:36:47There's a picture of him with Sinatra. And there's...
0:36:47 > 0:36:50It looks right over Central Park.
0:36:50 > 0:36:53His TV is basically the view of Central Park.
0:36:53 > 0:36:55But what an absolute legend he was.
0:36:55 > 0:36:59- Cos I'm a big fan of all the crooners, you know.- Mm-hm.
0:36:59 > 0:37:00Like your good self.
0:37:00 > 0:37:03But it's extraordinary when you're standing there
0:37:03 > 0:37:05and you're chatting to a man who...
0:37:05 > 0:37:07It's a phrase that's bandied around a lot, you know -
0:37:07 > 0:37:08the soundtrack of our lives -
0:37:08 > 0:37:13- but also a man who's lived so many lives in his 80-odd years.- Mm-hm.
0:37:13 > 0:37:14He's got a little dog called Happy
0:37:14 > 0:37:16who's the fluffiest little thing ever.
0:37:16 > 0:37:19No wonder it's called Happy, skittering around the apartment.
0:37:19 > 0:37:20- And it was just wonderful.- Yeah.
0:37:20 > 0:37:23They're magical moments because you don't think you're paths
0:37:23 > 0:37:26- are going to cross with legends like that.- No.
0:37:31 > 0:37:33What was your first break into television then, Richard?
0:37:33 > 0:37:35How did you go from being interviewed,
0:37:35 > 0:37:37pretending to be interviewed by Wogan to...?
0:37:37 > 0:37:38To getting on the telly?
0:37:38 > 0:37:41I was working for a magazine in London at the time.
0:37:41 > 0:37:44It was one of its kind at the time.
0:37:44 > 0:37:45It was a magazine about soap operas,
0:37:45 > 0:37:47and this was my sort of work experience
0:37:47 > 0:37:49when I came down from Scotland,
0:37:49 > 0:37:51cos I actually started off studying law at Edinburgh.
0:37:51 > 0:37:54Gave it up after about three weeks. It was a little too...
0:37:54 > 0:37:57It wasn't like Crown Court - let's put it that way.
0:37:57 > 0:38:00And so moved down and a phone call came into the office saying,
0:38:00 > 0:38:02"We're looking for someone to come on and talk about telly
0:38:02 > 0:38:04"on this new show."
0:38:04 > 0:38:06It was a youth show called The Sunday Show.
0:38:06 > 0:38:08It was out on Sundays, funnily enough.
0:38:08 > 0:38:09Did exactly what it said on the tin.
0:38:09 > 0:38:12And it was about '94, '95,
0:38:12 > 0:38:16and my nickname on the show was Soapy Dick.
0:38:16 > 0:38:18LAUGHTER
0:38:19 > 0:38:23- That's a moniker that can stick with a gentleman.- Yes, yes.
0:38:23 > 0:38:26And so that's how it started,
0:38:26 > 0:38:31and we did a sort of surreal take on the week's TV.
0:38:31 > 0:38:35Well, let's have a look, shall we, at your big break?
0:38:35 > 0:38:37We've got this rather heart-rending letter from...
0:38:37 > 0:38:39HE LAUGHS 'Oh, no way!'
0:38:39 > 0:38:42- This is you on The Sunday Show, Richard.- No way!
0:38:42 > 0:38:43Where did you find this?
0:38:43 > 0:38:46Broadcast on a Sunday lunchtime,
0:38:46 > 0:38:48the show gave the lowdown on what was happening
0:38:48 > 0:38:49in the world of entertainment.
0:38:49 > 0:38:50"..why we are so unpopular.
0:38:50 > 0:38:53"I just want people to accept us the way we are, pigs and all.
0:38:53 > 0:38:55"Can you help? Love always, Tina." Bless her heart.
0:38:55 > 0:38:58Well, Tina, who am I to refuse a damsel in distress?
0:38:58 > 0:39:00So, I've brought in a couple of media moguls
0:39:00 > 0:39:03into the studio today to help boost and polish up the Dingles' image.
0:39:03 > 0:39:07'I remember the shirt. Notice the sheen on it.'
0:39:07 > 0:39:09And the bouff, look at the bouff, girls.
0:39:09 > 0:39:12- Oh, yeah.- It's not bad. Well, I've still got my hair at least.
0:39:12 > 0:39:14So, save our bacon. And his going to...
0:39:14 > 0:39:16'How old am I here then? 24?'
0:39:16 > 0:39:19- You've got to be in your early 20s, haven't you?- 'Yeah.'
0:39:19 > 0:39:22- 'Been around a while, haven't we?' - You have, love. Not me.
0:39:22 > 0:39:25HE LAUGHS
0:39:26 > 0:39:29- This was Sunday morning hangover television.- Yeah.
0:39:29 > 0:39:31That was just me presenting it, but...
0:39:31 > 0:39:34- Was it nerve-racking?- Yeah, it was. It was. It was very nerve-racking.
0:39:34 > 0:39:36This is the first national live television that I did.
0:39:36 > 0:39:38I did a bit of cable as a pundit before that,
0:39:38 > 0:39:40and then a couple of years later,
0:39:40 > 0:39:43the phone call came from breakfast TV and that was it.
0:39:43 > 0:39:45I've never had a lie-in since.
0:39:47 > 0:39:52I mean, I suppose the practicality of actually, you know,
0:39:52 > 0:39:54getting up every morning at the crack of dawn,
0:39:54 > 0:39:56how difficult is it?
0:39:56 > 0:39:59Uh, do you know, it's not as bad as people...
0:39:59 > 0:40:01I am a bit of a morning person.
0:40:01 > 0:40:04I do like to be tucked up in my bed, the earlier the better.
0:40:04 > 0:40:07But, yeah, I've been woken up by the driver once
0:40:07 > 0:40:09- in the best part of 20 years, yeah. - Oh, right.- Yeah.
0:40:09 > 0:40:13And it's like anyone who oversleeps for work -
0:40:13 > 0:40:14it throws you completely.
0:40:14 > 0:40:18Mum, God bless her, she's all of 79 years of age, and very robust.
0:40:18 > 0:40:20- Can I touch some teak? - Yeah, of course you can.
0:40:20 > 0:40:24And it's funny, cos she'll ring up -
0:40:24 > 0:40:26and I know when the call is coming
0:40:26 > 0:40:28cos I'm feeling a little bit under the weather.
0:40:28 > 0:40:30And about sort of ten o'clock at night
0:40:30 > 0:40:31and Dad will have told her not to bother me...
0:40:31 > 0:40:33You know, "Leave the boy alone."
0:40:33 > 0:40:35..she'll ring up and say, "Everything all right?"
0:40:35 > 0:40:37I said, "Yeah. What?"
0:40:37 > 0:40:39"You looked a bit tired this morning."
0:40:39 > 0:40:42I said, "Mum, you're the only woman who still knows
0:40:42 > 0:40:47"what her 46-year-old son is wearing to school, effectively," you know.
0:40:47 > 0:40:48So, they enjoy that,
0:40:48 > 0:40:51because I'm still living with them at home, essentially,
0:40:51 > 0:40:52cos they can get up every morning...
0:40:52 > 0:40:54Mum's always like, "What's he said now?
0:40:54 > 0:40:56"Oh, he can't say that," you know.
0:40:56 > 0:40:58"Leave him alone, Dot. Leave him alone, Dot."
0:41:03 > 0:41:05So, Richard, what TV do you watch now?
0:41:05 > 0:41:08I don't watch a lot of television in real-time any more.
0:41:08 > 0:41:12The only things I will sit down for are the big shiny floor shows,
0:41:12 > 0:41:14you know, like Strictly and The X Factor,
0:41:14 > 0:41:17so I tend to download a lot of television.
0:41:17 > 0:41:19- But, yeah, it's all those sort of... - What about Downton?
0:41:19 > 0:41:20Downton, I love Downton.
0:41:20 > 0:41:28Downton, I was on the very first series.
0:41:28 > 0:41:31I was working below stairs.
0:41:31 > 0:41:33I was on set for the very first series,
0:41:33 > 0:41:35and that was quite extraordinary being part of that
0:41:35 > 0:41:37and getting to know the cast then
0:41:37 > 0:41:39and then obviously watching as the show took off,
0:41:39 > 0:41:42and it's impossible to overestimate
0:41:42 > 0:41:44the popularity of that show in America.
0:41:44 > 0:41:46- Oh, really?- It's extraordinary.
0:41:46 > 0:41:49And to be part of every series,
0:41:49 > 0:41:51to go down and visit the set every series
0:41:51 > 0:41:53and get to know the cast - Dan Stevens, Michelle Dockery...
0:41:53 > 0:41:56- So, you would be on interviewing the guests?- That's right.
0:41:56 > 0:41:59- And so you would be on that journey, if you like, with them...- Mm-hm.
0:41:59 > 0:42:02..cos they remember you coming to the very first episode.
0:42:02 > 0:42:03That's been a real privilege,
0:42:03 > 0:42:06- being part of that, albeit from a very, you know...- Yeah.
0:42:06 > 0:42:09Removed from it. That is extraordinary, that success.
0:42:09 > 0:42:12Now, we give our guests a chance to choose their theme tune
0:42:12 > 0:42:15- that we're going to play out. - Oh, right. OK. Right.
0:42:15 > 0:42:16So, what's it going to be?
0:42:16 > 0:42:22OK, well, obviously, Dallas is too much of an obvious one,
0:42:22 > 0:42:26and I hear that enough, but there is one particular theme
0:42:26 > 0:42:28which I guess was the Dallas of its day
0:42:28 > 0:42:32as far as we had over here.
0:42:32 > 0:42:35- Howards' Way. Do you remember Howards' Way?- Yeah.
0:42:35 > 0:42:36Used to love it.
0:42:36 > 0:42:37I was brought up in Hampshire, as I said,
0:42:37 > 0:42:39so the fact that this was down on the Solent
0:42:39 > 0:42:41and you could actually go and drink in the local pub
0:42:41 > 0:42:44and all that sort of business... Not at that age, clearly, but...
0:42:44 > 0:42:48- Shall we have it?- Shall we?- OK. - Let's go. Take it away.- My thanks...
0:42:48 > 0:42:50- I've got to do the bye bit!- Do you? LAUGHTER
0:42:50 > 0:42:52- Yeah!- Sorry.- It was going so well. - MUSIC: Howards' Way theme
0:42:52 > 0:42:56Thanks to Richard, and we're going to listen to Howards' Way.
0:42:56 > 0:42:59And I would like to say thank you for watching The TV That Made Me.
0:42:59 > 0:43:01- Can I say bye-bye?- Um...
0:43:01 > 0:43:03Bye-bye.
0:43:03 > 0:43:06Thank you. APPLAUSE
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