0:00:02 > 0:00:03TV. The magic box of delights.
0:00:03 > 0:00:07As kids, it showed us a million different worlds
0:00:07 > 0:00:09all from our living room.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10This takes me right back.
0:00:10 > 0:00:12That's so embarrassing.
0:00:12 > 0:00:14I am genuinely shocked.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17Each day I'm going to journey through the wonderful world
0:00:17 > 0:00:20of telly with one of our favourite celebrities.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22It's just so silly.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Oh! I love it!
0:00:24 > 0:00:26Is it Mr Benn?
0:00:27 > 0:00:31- Shut it!- As they select the iconic TV moments...
0:00:31 > 0:00:33Oh, hello.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36..that tell us the stories of their lives.
0:00:36 > 0:00:39Oh, my God.
0:00:39 > 0:00:41- Cheers.- Some will make you laugh...
0:00:44 > 0:00:45..some will surprise...
0:00:45 > 0:00:48QUACKQUACK!
0:00:48 > 0:00:50- ..many will inspire...- Ooh!
0:00:50 > 0:00:53Look at this. Why wouldn't you want to watch this?
0:00:53 > 0:00:55..and others will move us.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57Seeing that there made a huge impact on me.
0:00:58 > 0:00:59Got a handkerchief?
0:01:01 > 0:01:02So come watch with us
0:01:02 > 0:01:07as we rewind to the classic telly that shaped those
0:01:07 > 0:01:11wide-eyed youngsters into the much-loved stars they are today.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22Welcome to the TV That Made Me. My guest today has
0:01:22 > 0:01:25all the ingredients to make her a true TV star.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28She's the one and only Rachel Khoo!
0:01:29 > 0:01:31- Hi!- Welcome.
0:01:33 > 0:01:34Come and sit yourself down.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41Creative, beautiful and one hell of a cook,
0:01:41 > 0:01:44the delightful Rachel Khoo has become a household name
0:01:44 > 0:01:46thanks to her Little Paris Kitchen.
0:01:47 > 0:01:51The TV that made her includes a firm favourite for her foodie family.
0:01:54 > 0:01:56A Broom Cupboard bird that had her in stitches.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00And an inspirational chef.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05Now, Rachel, I was going to knock you something nice
0:02:05 > 0:02:07- but will a cup of tea do? - Yes, it's fine.- Yeah?
0:02:07 > 0:02:09I'm happy with a cup of tea.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12- Are you excited about this trip down memory lane?- I am super-excited!
0:02:12 > 0:02:15I can't wait to see what you've got lined up.
0:02:16 > 0:02:19Going to show some TV highlights, things that you have chosen,
0:02:19 > 0:02:22things that you probably haven't seen since they very first
0:02:22 > 0:02:23came out but, first up,
0:02:23 > 0:02:27we're going to have a look at a very young Rachel Khoo.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31Born and raised in South London,
0:02:31 > 0:02:34Rachel Khoo grew up with her Austrian mother,
0:02:34 > 0:02:35who was a secretary,
0:02:35 > 0:02:38a Malay Chinese dad, who worked in IT,
0:02:38 > 0:02:40and her younger brother, Michael.
0:02:40 > 0:02:42After a spell living in Germany,
0:02:42 > 0:02:44Rachel moved back to the UK
0:02:44 > 0:02:48where she did a degree in art and design in London.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53A developing passion for patisserie then drew Rachel to Paris where
0:02:53 > 0:02:56she graduated from the Cordon Bleu culinary school.
0:02:56 > 0:03:00She soon established herself as an author and Rachel's third book,
0:03:00 > 0:03:05The Little Paris Kitchen, hit our TV sets in 2012.
0:03:05 > 0:03:07Since then, she has continued to travel the world
0:03:07 > 0:03:11bringing all manner of cuisine to our screens whilst juggling
0:03:11 > 0:03:13her life as a bestselling writer.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17So, how important was TV?
0:03:17 > 0:03:21Um...TV was very important because my parents were super-strict
0:03:21 > 0:03:24about watching TV as a kid.
0:03:24 > 0:03:29I remember as a kid with my brother we lived in our house in Bromley,
0:03:29 > 0:03:35we had the hatches from the kitchen, and it was linked to the TV room,
0:03:35 > 0:03:39the lounge, and on Saturday morning, we would squeeze ourselves through.
0:03:39 > 0:03:41I'm assuming they would lock the latch door.
0:03:41 > 0:03:44Yeah, they locked the lounge door so we would squeeze ourselves through
0:03:44 > 0:03:46the hatch but we were little so we could manage
0:03:46 > 0:03:49through the hatch and then go and watch Saturday morning TV.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- Because you wasn't allowed to?- No, we weren't allowed to watch...
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- Why was you not allowed to watch? - Because my parents thought TV
0:03:56 > 0:03:57was a bad thing. Or too much TV.
0:03:57 > 0:04:01Yeah, you know? So when we heard the rumble upstairs,
0:04:01 > 0:04:03parents are coming down,
0:04:03 > 0:04:05it was like, "Quick, get through the hatch again!"
0:04:10 > 0:04:13Now, we're going to start with your earliest TV memory.
0:04:13 > 0:04:18Which TV cupboard really stuck with the young Rachel Khoo?
0:04:19 > 0:04:22If you're wondering what all these are, they're tomatoes.
0:04:22 > 0:04:24'Oh, my goodness.'
0:04:24 > 0:04:28- Edd the Duck!- So you don't go, "Oh, Andi Peters," you go,
0:04:28 > 0:04:31- "Oh, Edd the Duck." - Oh, come on, who was the star?
0:04:31 > 0:04:32It was Edd the Duck.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36Although I have met Andi Peters and he's pretty amazing, too,
0:04:36 > 0:04:38but Edd the Duck.
0:04:38 > 0:04:41Look, I mean, what's not to love about Edd the Duck?
0:04:41 > 0:04:42QUACK QUACK
0:04:42 > 0:04:43First of all...
0:04:43 > 0:04:45- QUACK QUACK - You've got to have...
0:04:45 > 0:04:47QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:04:47 > 0:04:49Green fingers. You have got green fingers, very nice.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51The phone's ringing.
0:04:51 > 0:04:54The children's BBC Broom Cupboard launched in 1985.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57Live from a tiny room, presenters would introduce the shows
0:04:57 > 0:05:01for that afternoon with their furry co-host beside them.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05Did you love the way he translated?
0:05:05 > 0:05:07Yes, exactly.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09Why are you speaking in that funny accent?
0:05:09 > 0:05:12- QUACK QUACK QUACK - Because he's a gah-dener, you see.
0:05:12 > 0:05:14And you have manure as a gah-dener, don't you?
0:05:14 > 0:05:16RACHEL LAUGHS
0:05:17 > 0:05:20Sorry, it still entertains me.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23What do you mean it's not ready yet?
0:05:23 > 0:05:25No, be quiet.
0:05:25 > 0:05:26Let me pick it...
0:05:26 > 0:05:30Now I think, like, who's the person kind of going like that?
0:05:30 > 0:05:33You like one of those ones. No, I think we'll have this one, Edd.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35No, I think we'll have this one...
0:05:37 > 0:05:40Edd the Duck was a big influence on you?
0:05:40 > 0:05:45He was like the first kind of TV show I remember as a kid.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48You know, the one after school,
0:05:48 > 0:05:49coming home from primary school
0:05:49 > 0:05:53putting the TV on and you'd see Edd the Duck
0:05:53 > 0:05:56and they'd be chatting about something.
0:05:56 > 0:05:57The problem with Edd the Duck
0:05:57 > 0:06:00was that you never knew when he was going to pop up.
0:06:00 > 0:06:01SHE SQUEAKS
0:06:01 > 0:06:04APPLAUSE
0:06:05 > 0:06:07Hello, Edd! How are you, mate?
0:06:07 > 0:06:09Oh, my goodness!
0:06:09 > 0:06:11I'm suddenly, like, "Celebrity in the house."
0:06:11 > 0:06:15- Do you want to give him a little stroke?- Hi, Edd.
0:06:15 > 0:06:18- There you go.- I love your jumper!
0:06:18 > 0:06:21Yeah, it's got 'Edd.' We've got a little game for you to play.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23- OK.- I shall translate. What is that, Edd?
0:06:23 > 0:06:25QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:25 > 0:06:27You want her to name...
0:06:27 > 0:06:28QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:28 > 0:06:31As many of the Broom Cupboard presenters...
0:06:31 > 0:06:32as you can.
0:06:32 > 0:06:34QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:34 > 0:06:35And if you can name four...
0:06:35 > 0:06:37Oh, no!
0:06:37 > 0:06:40..Edd will come and live with you in your house for ever...
0:06:40 > 0:06:43QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
0:06:43 > 0:06:46..as long as she promises never to cook orange sauce.
0:06:48 > 0:06:49OK. All right.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51I won't cook duck a l'orange.
0:06:51 > 0:06:52So...
0:06:52 > 0:06:55I've got a card here and I'll be able to tell.
0:06:55 > 0:06:57OK, there's only one.
0:06:57 > 0:07:01There's obviously Andi Peters. And then Phillip Schofield I remember.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- Andy Crane.- He's another good one.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07And then I can't remember anybody else.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09Can you give me some clues?
0:07:09 > 0:07:11Johnny Ball's daughter.
0:07:11 > 0:07:13Oh! Zoe Ball.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15- Yes!- Well done.
0:07:15 > 0:07:17You got four. You pleased with that?
0:07:17 > 0:07:19- I'm very pleased. - Edd will come and live with you.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22So, Edd, go and pack your bags and duck down.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25QUACK QUACK
0:07:25 > 0:07:27Edd the Duck!
0:07:27 > 0:07:29Woo! Yay!
0:07:29 > 0:07:32I never thought I would ever meet Edd the Duck.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37Of course, Edd the Duck isn't the only famous puppet
0:07:37 > 0:07:39to appear in the Broom Cupboard. Oh, no.
0:07:40 > 0:07:43A cheeky little gopher named Gordon first found fame there
0:07:43 > 0:07:46with Phillip Schofield in 1985.
0:07:48 > 0:07:51So successful were the duo they went on to team up
0:07:51 > 0:07:54on the hit Saturday morning show Going Live.
0:07:57 > 0:08:02Otis the Aardvark was another puppet that co-presented on CBBC.
0:08:02 > 0:08:04He also went on to make appearances on other shows
0:08:04 > 0:08:05including Fully Booked,
0:08:05 > 0:08:07Live and Kicking
0:08:07 > 0:08:10and a special puppet edition of The Weakest Link.
0:08:10 > 0:08:15Nowadays, the main puppet on the BBC block is Hacker T Dog.
0:08:15 > 0:08:16Hailing from Wigan,
0:08:16 > 0:08:21this naughty but lovable presenter is also CBBC's canine journalist
0:08:21 > 0:08:23and talk-show host.
0:08:23 > 0:08:27But, as far as I'm concerned, they're all just puppets.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31So, Rachel, who did you watch the Broom Cupboard with?
0:08:31 > 0:08:35I mainly watched the Broom Cupboard with my younger brother, Michael,
0:08:35 > 0:08:38- who's three years younger than me and...- Because he could
0:08:38 > 0:08:40- fit through the hole.- He could fit through the hatch!
0:08:40 > 0:08:42And then I had
0:08:42 > 0:08:45my next-door neighbours,
0:08:45 > 0:08:49they had two girls who I used to hang out with who were my age and
0:08:49 > 0:08:51sometimes they'd come over to ours to watch TV
0:08:51 > 0:08:54or sometimes we go over to theirs to watch TV.
0:08:54 > 0:08:56So did you have TV in your bedroom?
0:08:56 > 0:09:00No TV in the bedroom but my parents had a little telly.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03You know, I'm going to show my age, but the ones you had to
0:09:03 > 0:09:06press the buttons on. If you pressed one,
0:09:06 > 0:09:09the four would pop up, so whatever channel you wanted to watch.
0:09:09 > 0:09:12And we weren't allowed to watch Neighbours.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14- Really?- No Neighbours.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17- Why not?- I don't know, my mum thought it's not a good influence.
0:09:17 > 0:09:22So I would sneak up around five o'clock and go watch it.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25And then when I hear the steps at the door,
0:09:25 > 0:09:26hide under the bed,
0:09:26 > 0:09:30so quickly switch off and then squeeze under the bed.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32Make sure nobody spots me.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35So there was a lot of secret TV viewing.
0:09:35 > 0:09:38- Yeah.- Your parents were very strict.
0:09:38 > 0:09:40What did they allow you to watch?
0:09:40 > 0:09:42Erm... Newsround.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45- Newsround.- Yes, Blue Peter, of course.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47That was all right.
0:09:47 > 0:09:51Like, anything from 5pm onwards wasn't really allowed.
0:09:56 > 0:10:01- The next choice, Rachel, is Must See TV but before we do...- Ah.
0:10:01 > 0:10:04..I've got a little surprise.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07OK. Oh, I don't know about your surprises.
0:10:07 > 0:10:09I've been in the kitchen, I've been cooking.
0:10:09 > 0:10:11Oh, wow.
0:10:11 > 0:10:12- And...- What have you made?
0:10:14 > 0:10:16- What do you think it looks like? - You've made lasagne!
0:10:16 > 0:10:19I have. I haven't, I bought it.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22- I don't think you have these containers.- No.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24When you look at lasagne, what does it remind you of?
0:10:24 > 0:10:26- What TV programme?- Garfield.
0:10:27 > 0:10:31I had a really big thing for Garfield.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33My brother and I had a really big thing for Garfield
0:10:33 > 0:10:35the cartoon and we loved Garfield
0:10:35 > 0:10:40so much we would make our mum make lasagne.
0:10:40 > 0:10:42And you would eat that while watching Garfield.
0:10:42 > 0:10:44- Yes.- Here's my remote.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46- OK.- Press play.
0:10:46 > 0:10:48Here it is. Garfield.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51Ladies and gentlemen, Garfield and Friends.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55I haven't seen this in years!
0:10:55 > 0:11:00Based on cartoonist Jim Davis' comic strip called Garfield,
0:11:00 > 0:11:02this hilarious animated series
0:11:02 > 0:11:06featured the adventures of a lovable lazy cat and his friends.
0:11:08 > 0:11:11I loved, obviously, Garfield
0:11:11 > 0:11:14but the relationship between Garfield and Odie.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17- Odie the dog, of course. - Odie the dog.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20We're starving away to nothingness
0:11:20 > 0:11:22and all you can think about is going out?
0:11:22 > 0:11:25So what was it about that relationship that you loved so much?
0:11:25 > 0:11:33Garfield was always so miserable and all he did was sleep and eat, which
0:11:33 > 0:11:35for me is pretty much amazing.
0:11:35 > 0:11:40I love to sleep and eat, and then Odie would just be
0:11:40 > 0:11:42oblivious to everything.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45And just so joyful and up for everything.
0:11:45 > 0:11:49You know, no matter what happened, he'd go for it and Garfield's like,
0:11:49 > 0:11:51"Oh! No!"
0:11:51 > 0:11:53Grumpy, grumpy.
0:11:53 > 0:11:55Famed for his fondness of food,
0:11:55 > 0:11:58lasagne-loving Garfield's life generally revolved around
0:11:58 > 0:12:01sleeping and, not surprisingly, stuffing his face.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08Sorry, cat. We close at eight sharp.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12You can't do this to me.
0:12:12 > 0:12:13- You can't!- 'I've done that.
0:12:13 > 0:12:15'I went to Japan'
0:12:15 > 0:12:19and I was in Tokyo and I found this little noodle place
0:12:19 > 0:12:20I really wanted to go to
0:12:20 > 0:12:23and it wasn't open so I was banging on the door.
0:12:23 > 0:12:26I was knocking on the neighbour's door and I don't speak Japanese
0:12:26 > 0:12:29and I was like... "Where's the noodle man!
0:12:29 > 0:12:31"Where's the noodle soup?"
0:12:31 > 0:12:35I think Garfield and I have a lot in common because food for us means
0:12:35 > 0:12:39so much and it's always so dramatic when there's no food.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42So we've spoken about the lasagne,
0:12:42 > 0:12:47that you used to eat while watching Garfield, this passion for food,
0:12:47 > 0:12:49was that at a very early age?
0:12:49 > 0:12:51- Yes.- Was it your family?
0:12:51 > 0:12:53Does your family revolve around food?
0:12:53 > 0:12:55Family definitely revolves around food.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57So, my mum's Austrian.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00And I remember, as a kid, my grandma in Austria,
0:13:00 > 0:13:03she'd make strudel, and Sachertorte, and schnitzel,
0:13:03 > 0:13:06and all the delicious Austrian food,
0:13:06 > 0:13:11and I'd do a lot of baking with my mum as a kid, bake some gingerbread,
0:13:11 > 0:13:14so I started baking a lot when I was young.
0:13:14 > 0:13:19And then my dad's from Malaysia, and in Malaysia, when you see somebody,
0:13:19 > 0:13:22you don't ask them how you are, you ask, "Have you eaten yet?"
0:13:22 > 0:13:24That is the first line.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Because knowing the response from that,
0:13:26 > 0:13:29it would be always how you are, so if you hadn't eaten,
0:13:29 > 0:13:32then you obviously weren't well and you needed to go and eat.
0:13:32 > 0:13:36You know, the priorities are well-balanced in Malaysia.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40- Yeah.- So food has always been really a big part of my culture,
0:13:40 > 0:13:42my growing up.
0:13:42 > 0:13:46We didn't really have TV dinners when we were little.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48So it was always we sat round the table,
0:13:48 > 0:13:50um...
0:13:50 > 0:13:52we had a few snacks after school,
0:13:52 > 0:13:56um...my mum made...sometimes she made toffee popcorn,
0:13:56 > 0:13:59or she used to do fairy cakes.
0:13:59 > 0:14:02- Oh, right.- So once in a while we were allowed treats
0:14:02 > 0:14:06in front of the TV. So, yeah, but no, kind of, TV dinners.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08And then when you were quite young, you then moved to Germany.
0:14:08 > 0:14:11Yeah, when I was 12, we moved to Germany.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13And so everything was in German.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16I didn't watch that much German kids' TV.
0:14:16 > 0:14:19I watched more, like, American TV series.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26Rachel, we're going to move on to your Guilty Pleasure now.
0:14:26 > 0:14:28It's an underwater sci-fi,
0:14:28 > 0:14:32and this particular episode contains talking dolphins.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- Do you know what the programme is? - I think I do.- It's SeaQuest.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39RACHEL LAUGHS
0:14:39 > 0:14:42- Why do you laugh? - Because I haven't seen it
0:14:42 > 0:14:44since I watched it as a teenager.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47But I was obsessed with this programme.
0:14:47 > 0:14:48Really?
0:14:48 > 0:14:53Steven Spielberg's futuristic sci-fi show SeaQuest DSV
0:14:53 > 0:14:55was set in the early 21st century,
0:14:55 > 0:15:00when mankind have colonised the last unexplored region on Earth -
0:15:00 > 0:15:02the ocean.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06Labelled "a wet space opera," its characters and storylines
0:15:06 > 0:15:09could have been equally at home on the Starship Enterprise.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15I was so obsessed, I had a massive fight with my mum for not letting me
0:15:15 > 0:15:16- watch it one day.- Really?
0:15:16 > 0:15:19She wanted me to do some cleaning and help out in the house,
0:15:19 > 0:15:21and I was like, "I've got to watch it!"
0:15:21 > 0:15:24You know, it's, "Something dramatic's going to happen!"
0:15:24 > 0:15:26So was you in Germany at the time?
0:15:26 > 0:15:28Yeah, I was in Germany at the time, so it was dubbed.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31So it wasn't even the original, they had funny German voices.
0:15:31 > 0:15:35- Oh, right. - General, he's a dolphin, not a spy.
0:15:35 > 0:15:37Sir, you can't put him in just any ecology.
0:15:37 > 0:15:38He's going to get sick in there.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41Your mammal is responsible for a breach in UEO security.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45Until we find out who he's talking to, we intend to keep an eye on him.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48My friend, have you been sending messages?
0:15:50 > 0:15:53'It was set in the future, this is 2018.'
0:15:54 > 0:15:57'It's 2018? That's in, like, two years' time!
0:15:57 > 0:15:58'I know, I know!'
0:16:01 > 0:16:04'I've gone blank on his name, but that young guy with his,
0:16:04 > 0:16:05'like, tousled hair...'
0:16:05 > 0:16:07- Yeah.- ..I had the biggest crush on him.
0:16:07 > 0:16:09I think he was my first TV crush.
0:16:09 > 0:16:11His name was Jonathan Brandis.
0:16:11 > 0:16:15- Jonathan Brandis.- I had a poster of him on my wall in my room.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17Look at it. I don't think we're going to sneak him
0:16:17 > 0:16:19a flounder with a file in it.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22The captain of the SeaQuest was played by the late,
0:16:22 > 0:16:26great Roy Scheider, who's best known as Chief Brody in Jaws.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29Which meant he was well accustomed to performing
0:16:29 > 0:16:32with these very lifelike animatronic sea creatures.
0:16:32 > 0:16:37Thankfully, Darwin the dolphin was much less frightening than Jaws.
0:16:37 > 0:16:40- Who's returning?- Invitation.
0:16:40 > 0:16:42Co-operation.
0:16:42 > 0:16:46'So was it for the brilliant storylines you watched this for,
0:16:46 > 0:16:48'or was it cos you had a crush?'
0:16:48 > 0:16:50Well, what do you think?
0:16:51 > 0:16:55Come on, I was a teenage girl, all the crazy hormones.
0:16:55 > 0:16:57It was him and Take That.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59Hey!
0:17:00 > 0:17:03- The aliens?- Visitors coming.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06It would be funny to watch this now and see what kind of technology
0:17:06 > 0:17:08they're using.
0:17:08 > 0:17:12I withheld very important information from these people.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14I'm lucky I'm not in jail.
0:17:14 > 0:17:16'I think the dolphin was the best actor in that scene!'
0:17:16 > 0:17:17RACHEL LAUGHS
0:17:17 > 0:17:20'Hey, don't slate my Jonathan!'
0:17:20 > 0:17:21'Oh, really!'
0:17:21 > 0:17:24So, was you a bit of a sci-fi geek?
0:17:24 > 0:17:27- I don't think...- Or was it really, purely down to Jonathan?
0:17:27 > 0:17:29I think it was purely down to Jonathan.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32- Oh, really?- If he was on I was, like, glued to the TV.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35Yeah. So that's the first time you've heard him speak English.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38Yes, he had a very different German voice.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40- Yeah?- Yeah, it wasn't very...
0:17:40 > 0:17:43I think it was a bit more high-pitched, actually!
0:17:43 > 0:17:45High-pitched, a bit like the dolphin, really.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47Yeah! Bit like the dolphin.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50I don't know why... Well, I know why I watched it,
0:17:50 > 0:17:52but now watching it I'm like, "Oh, my goodness."
0:17:52 > 0:17:53My taste has evolved.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56- Oh, really?- Yeah.- Yeah? - Just slightly.
0:17:56 > 0:17:59I don't think this would be my guilty pleasure any more.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01- No?- No, no.
0:18:06 > 0:18:08Rachel, obviously your mum approved of Garfield,
0:18:08 > 0:18:13but here's one cartoon that she didn't approve of.
0:18:18 > 0:18:20- 'The Simpsons.- Yes.
0:18:20 > 0:18:23'What I always wanted to watch out at the beginning
0:18:23 > 0:18:26'was what was Bart writing, what was the thing he was writing?
0:18:26 > 0:18:28'And then the moment on the sofa.
0:18:28 > 0:18:30- 'Yeah.- They always used to change that, didn't they?
0:18:30 > 0:18:32- 'Exactly.- They still do.'
0:18:32 > 0:18:34What's going to happen this time,
0:18:34 > 0:18:36cos that would be the element of surprise.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42Give it up, Dad, Petey ain't coming back.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45'One of TV's favourite families, the Simpsons,
0:18:45 > 0:18:47'originally appeared on the Tracey Ullman Show.
0:18:47 > 0:18:52'In 1989, they got their very own programme, and after 27 seasons,
0:18:52 > 0:18:55'it's the longest-running animated series ever.'
0:18:55 > 0:18:58- I'm going to my room! - That's it, go to your room!
0:18:58 > 0:19:01- Oh, no!- Wonderful parenting skills going on there.
0:19:01 > 0:19:02Fantastic, yeah.
0:19:02 > 0:19:03And it's so well written.
0:19:03 > 0:19:08It is. They have a very talented team of writers.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10Do you think you were a bit like Lisa?
0:19:10 > 0:19:11Well, I play the saxophone.
0:19:11 > 0:19:15- Oh, do you really?- Well, I used to, I used to, and so, I was like,
0:19:15 > 0:19:17"Lisa and I, yeah!
0:19:17 > 0:19:19"We have some affinity."
0:19:19 > 0:19:23I never could play it as good as Lisa, though.
0:19:23 > 0:19:26My... The noise which comes out the saxophone when I play it,
0:19:26 > 0:19:28- it's a bit dubious.- Yeah?
0:19:28 > 0:19:31I used to have to stick a tennis ball in my saxophone
0:19:31 > 0:19:33so the neighbours wouldn't hear it so much.
0:19:33 > 0:19:38Marge, since I'm not talking to Lisa, would you please ask her
0:19:38 > 0:19:40to pass me the syrup?
0:19:40 > 0:19:42Please pass your father the syrup, Lisa.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46'It can take between six to eight months to create one episode.
0:19:46 > 0:19:47'Six to eight months?!
0:19:47 > 0:19:50'Wow! That's crazy!'
0:19:50 > 0:19:52Tell Bart I just want to drink a nice glass of syrup
0:19:52 > 0:19:54- like I do every morning. - Tell him yourself,
0:19:54 > 0:19:56you're ignoring Lisa, not Bart.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58Bart, thank your mother for pointing that out.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02Homer, you're not not talking to me, and secondly, I heard what you said.
0:20:02 > 0:20:031989, it started.
0:20:03 > 0:20:07- I know!- And what do you think of the relationship within the family?
0:20:07 > 0:20:12Yeah, it's, um... It's interesting to see how,
0:20:12 > 0:20:15you know... Well, Marge is the strong woman,
0:20:15 > 0:20:18and she's the one who's in charge, and Homer's always messing up.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21Lisa, tell your mother to get off my case.
0:20:21 > 0:20:23Dad, Lisa's the one you're not talking to.
0:20:23 > 0:20:25- Bart, go to your room! - Why don't you just eat him, Dad?
0:20:25 > 0:20:28I don't need any serving suggestions from you,
0:20:28 > 0:20:30you barbecue-wrecking, know-nothing know-it-all!
0:20:30 > 0:20:31Lisa's quite stubborn.
0:20:31 > 0:20:35Yes, exactly, but that's like me, I am super stubborn.
0:20:35 > 0:20:38I always get my way, it's my way or no way.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41I can't live in a house with this prehistoric carnivore!
0:20:41 > 0:20:44I am out of here!
0:20:46 > 0:20:48- HOMER:- That's it! Go to your room!
0:20:48 > 0:20:51And Bart, he's always up to mischief.
0:20:51 > 0:20:53- Yeah.- I think that's good fun.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55And what did you love about the show?
0:20:55 > 0:20:57I mean, it's still going, it's just going on and on.
0:20:57 > 0:20:59- It's amazing, but... - We've all grown up with it.
0:20:59 > 0:21:01As a kid, I just thought it was fun.
0:21:01 > 0:21:04But then, the older you get, you...
0:21:04 > 0:21:08the references they make to popular culture is very interesting,
0:21:08 > 0:21:11some of the celebrities they have on it.
0:21:11 > 0:21:15You know, the humour works for both old and young.
0:21:15 > 0:21:17Wow, Paul McCartney!
0:21:17 > 0:21:19I read about you in history class.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21But where's your wife, Linda?
0:21:21 > 0:21:23Right here, Lisa. Whenever we're in Springfield,
0:21:23 > 0:21:25we like to hang out in Apu's garden in the shade.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28We met him in India years ago during the Maharishi days.
0:21:28 > 0:21:33So, Rachel, how did you get a sneaky peek of The Simpsons?
0:21:33 > 0:21:36By then, we had a remote control for the TV.
0:21:36 > 0:21:37That your brother let you borrow?
0:21:37 > 0:21:39Yes, cos we both wanted to watch The Simpsons.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42Oh, I thought you both had a remote!
0:21:42 > 0:21:43One each.
0:21:45 > 0:21:51And so we would work together on our strategy
0:21:51 > 0:21:54- on how we could watch The Simpsons. - So you formed an alliance.
0:21:54 > 0:21:58Exactly. I formed an alliance with my brother to watch The Simpsons.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02We would first research what other channels had something
0:22:02 > 0:22:05- my mum would be OK with. - This is great!
0:22:05 > 0:22:06And it would be, literally,
0:22:06 > 0:22:09you wanted to go for a number between one and nine,
0:22:09 > 0:22:11so you could switch quick, because otherwise,
0:22:11 > 0:22:13if you had to do double digits,
0:22:13 > 0:22:15it was too complicated on the remote control.
0:22:15 > 0:22:19- Yeah.- So it would have to be between channel one and nine.
0:22:19 > 0:22:22So we'd do our research beforehand, so we'd put The Simpsons on,
0:22:22 > 0:22:24and then we'd know which channel we had to switch to.
0:22:24 > 0:22:28- So, did your mum ever rumble you? - Yes.- Yes!
0:22:28 > 0:22:29We weren't quick enough with the...
0:22:29 > 0:22:33Like, we had to, you know, more training with the fingers, I think.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37Yeah. So we did get caught once or twice.
0:22:37 > 0:22:38Yeah.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41The Simpsons hold the record for the most guest stars
0:22:41 > 0:22:46featured in a TV series, like the Oscar-winning actor Dustin Hoffman,
0:22:46 > 0:22:49who played substitute teacher Mr Bergstrom,
0:22:49 > 0:22:52a character who Lisa developed a huge crush on.
0:22:54 > 0:22:57A love interest of Bart's was also voiced by an Oscar winner.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59The amazing Meryl Streep
0:22:59 > 0:23:03played Bart's wisecracking girlfriend Jessica Lovejoy.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08A whole host of music legends appeared as part
0:23:08 > 0:23:11of a rock and roll fantasy camp that Homer attended,
0:23:11 > 0:23:13including Mick Jagger, Keith Richards,
0:23:13 > 0:23:16Lenny Kravitz and Elvis Costello.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22Elizabeth Taylor even got in on the Simpsons action
0:23:22 > 0:23:26when she voiced baby Maggie's first-ever word - "Daddy."
0:23:28 > 0:23:31And, finally, one of the most famous guest appearances has to be
0:23:31 > 0:23:33from the late Michael Jackson.
0:23:33 > 0:23:36He featured as the voice of a psychiatric patient
0:23:36 > 0:23:39who believed he was the King of Pop.
0:23:39 > 0:23:41When it came to singing a song on the show,
0:23:41 > 0:23:44Michael's record company refused to allow it,
0:23:44 > 0:23:47so Jackson hand-picked someone to sing just like him.
0:23:54 > 0:23:57And we're going to move on to your next choice now.
0:23:57 > 0:24:01- Mm-hmm.- A show that had you all huddled around the TV.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04This is your Family Favourite.
0:24:06 > 0:24:08- 'What's it called?- Food and Drink!
0:24:08 > 0:24:11- 'Food and Drink. - I remember that theme tune!
0:24:11 > 0:24:14'Undoubtedly a trailblazer when it comes to foodie telly,
0:24:14 > 0:24:17'the original series of Food and Drink had viewers hooked
0:24:17 > 0:24:20'from 1982 to 2001.
0:24:22 > 0:24:26'Regularly presented by Chris Kelly and the late Michael Barry,
0:24:26 > 0:24:29'the hit show also made household names of wine experts
0:24:29 > 0:24:31'Oz Clarke and Jilly Goolden.
0:24:32 > 0:24:35'The series wasn't just about good food and wine.
0:24:35 > 0:24:38'It also tackled hard-hitting topical news stories
0:24:38 > 0:24:43'such as the BSE crisis, and exposed dodgy products.
0:24:43 > 0:24:46'And it saw early appearances of many of today's celebrity chefs,
0:24:46 > 0:24:48'including Jamie Oliver.'
0:24:50 > 0:24:52That was the one TV show we were allowed to stay up for.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54- Oh, really?- Yeah.
0:24:54 > 0:24:56Because your family, your mum, your dad,
0:24:56 > 0:24:58they were passionate about food,
0:24:58 > 0:25:01- as well?- Yeah, they loved to watch, you know, this show.
0:25:01 > 0:25:05- It was really popular at that time! - Oh, it was very popular.- Yeah.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07This is what happens if you take the front off,
0:25:07 > 0:25:08show you what goes on inside.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11Whacky wine critic Jilly Goolden is known fondly
0:25:11 > 0:25:15for teaching the nation to sniff, sip and swill.
0:25:15 > 0:25:18So the wine doesn't get spoilt by oxidation.
0:25:18 > 0:25:19Incidentally, this valve is so powerful
0:25:19 > 0:25:21that when you've emptied the bag,
0:25:21 > 0:25:24you can blow it up and use it as a beach pillow when it's finished.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27- OK!- There you go! - I didn't know that!
0:25:27 > 0:25:29- You'd be so drunk you won't bother with it.- No!
0:25:29 > 0:25:31You'd just be collapsed.
0:25:31 > 0:25:35I did always wonder how they, you know,
0:25:35 > 0:25:39drink everything and not end up a little bit tipsy on the show.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41Yeah, yeah. And of course, she...
0:25:41 > 0:25:48Jilly always had a wonderful way of explaining the bouquet of a certain
0:25:48 > 0:25:51- drink.- She would always use words - as a kid I would be like, "Ooh,
0:25:51 > 0:25:53"what does that mean?"
0:25:54 > 0:25:56And the kind of facial expressions.
0:25:56 > 0:25:58Yeah.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00I wonder if she had to warm up beforehand.
0:26:00 > 0:26:01Yeah, yeah, yeah!
0:26:01 > 0:26:03- We've got a little game...- OK.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05..that we would like you to warm up to.
0:26:05 > 0:26:07- Yeah.- A little wine-tasting game.
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- Ooh!- Excuse me while I go to the kitchen. A little...
0:26:10 > 0:26:12Oh, blimey, I knocked the door there, I nearly lost them.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15- Don't trip up now!- No, I won't.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17So we've got three bottles of wine here.
0:26:17 > 0:26:22- Uh-huh.- And, of course, Jilly was always wonderful at explaining
0:26:22 > 0:26:26how the aroma of the wine, you know, felt and tasted.
0:26:26 > 0:26:28Yeah. Very creative.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30Yes. We've got three bottles of wine,
0:26:30 > 0:26:33and we'll be showing you three vintage clips from Jilly.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36- But, firstly, you've got to taste it.- OK.- So is that A?
0:26:36 > 0:26:40- I think that's A.- Oh, right, they you go, so you're sober!
0:26:40 > 0:26:42Yeah, let's make the most of this.
0:26:42 > 0:26:44So have a little sniff. Oh, and, er,
0:26:44 > 0:26:47I've got a little cup here if you wish to spit it out,
0:26:47 > 0:26:50if you want to be all professional, or you're just going to drink it.
0:26:50 > 0:26:52I'm just going to drink it!
0:26:52 > 0:26:56I can swirl it around, and you're supposed to look at the tears.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59So when Jilly tasted this wine, did she say,
0:26:59 > 0:27:02"It tastes of rainy days and Mondays,"
0:27:02 > 0:27:06"It tastes like bracken shoots on a hot heath,"
0:27:06 > 0:27:11or C, "It's like a bag of chips with a pickled egg."
0:27:11 > 0:27:13Bag of chips with a pickled egg!
0:27:13 > 0:27:15Erm...
0:27:15 > 0:27:17Yeah, go with A.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20You're going to go with A, tastes like rainy days and Mondays.
0:27:20 > 0:27:23- Let's find out.- Mmm!
0:27:23 > 0:27:26Bracken shoots on a hot heath, absolutely wonderful!
0:27:26 > 0:27:28Oh, the correct answer was B,
0:27:28 > 0:27:30it tastes like bracken shoots on a hot heath.
0:27:30 > 0:27:34Oh, but rainy days! So, so poetic!
0:27:34 > 0:27:36Let's see if you can get the next one right.
0:27:36 > 0:27:39So, when Jilly tasted this one, did she say,
0:27:39 > 0:27:42"It has hints of peanut butter and jam,"
0:27:42 > 0:27:46"It tastes like dry, salty fish,"
0:27:46 > 0:27:51"It's got a lovely, buxom quality with pert acidity
0:27:51 > 0:27:53"and a slick of green apples"?
0:27:53 > 0:27:56I think there's definitely something pert about this white wine.
0:27:56 > 0:27:59Right, so you're going with the slick of green apples.
0:27:59 > 0:28:01Mmm!
0:28:01 > 0:28:04Buxom quality, but with pert acidity and a lovely sort of
0:28:04 > 0:28:06- slick of green apple.- Yes!
0:28:06 > 0:28:08Yes, well done!
0:28:08 > 0:28:09Yay!
0:28:09 > 0:28:13Well done. Rachel, here's your final one.
0:28:13 > 0:28:16- All right.- So when Jilly tasted this one, did she say,
0:28:16 > 0:28:20"It has an undercurrent of village ponds."
0:28:20 > 0:28:23Do I really want to drink it with village...?
0:28:23 > 0:28:28"It tastes like a fireplace dusted with icing sugar,"
0:28:28 > 0:28:31or C, "We're getting a bit bathroomy,
0:28:31 > 0:28:34"this one is just like bath salts,
0:28:34 > 0:28:36"but lovely bath salts"?
0:28:37 > 0:28:38Let's go with the bath salts.
0:28:40 > 0:28:42Now this one is just like bath salts when you get there,
0:28:42 > 0:28:45absolutely extraordinary, lovely bath salts, of course.
0:28:45 > 0:28:48- Yes!- You are correct, well done indeed!
0:28:48 > 0:28:50APPLAUSE
0:28:50 > 0:28:54You have a very good palate - two out of three is not bad.
0:28:54 > 0:28:56It's not bad, with a cold as well!
0:28:56 > 0:28:58- Yeah, yeah, yeah,! - Ah!- Very impressed.
0:28:58 > 0:29:00- Yes!- So do you like your wine?
0:29:00 > 0:29:03Erm... I do like my wine, but I'm no expert.
0:29:03 > 0:29:07- No?- For me, it's all about personal choice, you know,
0:29:07 > 0:29:10whether you enjoy... you pick a wine and you enjoy it,
0:29:10 > 0:29:12it doesn't need to be expensive, or a certain price,
0:29:12 > 0:29:14or from a certain region,
0:29:14 > 0:29:17new world, old world, I'm not snobby in that sense.
0:29:17 > 0:29:21Why was Food and Drink such a popular programme for you?
0:29:21 > 0:29:24I think for me it was, like, "What are they cooking this week?"
0:29:24 > 0:29:27And they always discovered a new ingredient,
0:29:27 > 0:29:32and I remember my mum told me, olive oil, back in the '80s,
0:29:32 > 0:29:34you had to go buy at the chemist.
0:29:34 > 0:29:38- Really?- Yes, you couldn't buy olive oil in the shop.
0:29:38 > 0:29:40- Oh, really?- So when, Food and Drink,
0:29:40 > 0:29:43they obviously were discovering all these new ingredients and stuff
0:29:43 > 0:29:46like that, and they were discussing olive oil, and my mum, "Yeah,
0:29:46 > 0:29:49"I already use olive oil, but you have to go buy it at the chemist's."
0:29:49 > 0:29:50Isn't that interesting?
0:29:50 > 0:29:53I never knew that. The winning combination of recipes,
0:29:53 > 0:29:58wine and foodie news made Food and Drink a big hit with viewers.
0:29:58 > 0:30:00This is what you normally get in a takeaway.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03It's rather bright red, it's spicy and very hot,
0:30:03 > 0:30:05the colours are unnecessary.
0:30:05 > 0:30:07That colour's achieved not because of spices,
0:30:07 > 0:30:10but because of use of a food colouring.
0:30:10 > 0:30:14- There you go!- So you learnt a lot from your mum, would you say?
0:30:14 > 0:30:18I definitely learnt a lot from my mum, cos my mum cooked
0:30:18 > 0:30:22every, you know, every day for us and it was a home-cooked meal.
0:30:22 > 0:30:24- And you cooked with her?- Well, I...
0:30:24 > 0:30:27I wanted to help out with the baking, you know?
0:30:27 > 0:30:29The cooking I wasn't so interested.
0:30:29 > 0:30:32My brother was, like, always up for cooking, more so.
0:30:32 > 0:30:33He made a good spaghetti Bolognese.
0:30:33 > 0:30:37- Oh, really?- Yep. I was more baking.
0:30:37 > 0:30:40Obviously, we always had to help out with setting the table, washing up,
0:30:40 > 0:30:43drying up, stuff like that, peeling potatoes.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46And we had a garden allotment.
0:30:46 > 0:30:49- Oh, right.- And during the summer, we always had beans.
0:30:49 > 0:30:51- Green beans with everything. - Yes!- And I was like...
0:30:51 > 0:30:54"Do we have to have more green beans?" You know?
0:30:54 > 0:30:56But now, I think, "Green beans from the garden?
0:30:56 > 0:30:59"What's more amazing?" You know, fresh, crunchy beans.
0:30:59 > 0:31:02But as a kid, you're like, "It's so boring."
0:31:07 > 0:31:10- Well, time for a break now, a commercial break.- OK.
0:31:10 > 0:31:13And one that I hope brings back some really good memories.
0:31:13 > 0:31:15Have a little look at this.
0:31:19 > 0:31:22Showing a bushy-browed teenager's panic
0:31:22 > 0:31:24in the aftermath of a house party,
0:31:24 > 0:31:27this classic ad was one of a series of mini-drama adverts
0:31:27 > 0:31:29for the Yellow Pages.
0:31:29 > 0:31:30Who are you?
0:31:32 > 0:31:35- That's Jake Wood from EastEnders, there.- Oh, really?!
0:31:36 > 0:31:39Oh, hello, French polishers?
0:31:39 > 0:31:41It's just possible you could save my life.
0:31:49 > 0:31:51PHONE RINGS
0:31:52 > 0:31:54Mum, just landed?
0:31:54 > 0:31:57All quiet.
0:31:57 > 0:31:58I'm on my way.
0:32:02 > 0:32:06- So, what was it about that advert that you loved so much?- Well...
0:32:06 > 0:32:09- a similar thing happened to me. - What, you had a party?
0:32:10 > 0:32:11Well, not quite.
0:32:11 > 0:32:14I did some artwork on the dining room table
0:32:14 > 0:32:17and I was cutting something out and I thought,
0:32:17 > 0:32:21"Oh, I don't need a mat." And I cut it and then I got a mark.
0:32:21 > 0:32:23So I thought, "I'll file it."
0:32:23 > 0:32:26- Oh, no!- And the mark became a dip.
0:32:26 > 0:32:29And then my dad banished me to the garden shed.
0:32:29 > 0:32:33Forever onwards I had to do artwork in the garden shed,
0:32:33 > 0:32:37because I didn't think of Yellow Pages.
0:32:37 > 0:32:39Man, if I had the Yellow Pages at the time
0:32:39 > 0:32:41I would have given somebody a call.
0:32:41 > 0:32:45But, yeah... So I can associate with that feeling of getting
0:32:45 > 0:32:47- a scratch on the table.- Yeah.- Yep.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55So, your next choice is a lady who has been cooking
0:32:55 > 0:32:57on our screens since the early '70s.
0:32:57 > 0:33:00You have chosen her as your biggest influence.
0:33:00 > 0:33:03And here she is destroying a coconut.
0:33:04 > 0:33:06Well, now we're going to go on a long journey
0:33:06 > 0:33:08all the way from Thailand to Sri Lanka.
0:33:08 > 0:33:11And I want to show you a curry recipe that a friend of mine
0:33:11 > 0:33:14- brought back from there. - 'Look at the earrings!- I know...'
0:33:14 > 0:33:16..which is a fresh coconut.
0:33:16 > 0:33:19'Her earrings are nearly as big as the coconut!'
0:33:19 > 0:33:21..not exactly user-friendly.
0:33:21 > 0:33:23Champion of back-to-basics cookery,
0:33:23 > 0:33:25Delia Smith is so influential
0:33:25 > 0:33:28that she created a phenomenon known as the Delia Effect -
0:33:28 > 0:33:32a celebrity endorsement that prompts a shopper stampede.
0:33:32 > 0:33:35Put the coconut inside the polythene bag.
0:33:35 > 0:33:37Then you need a really heavy object,
0:33:37 > 0:33:40something like a big hammer or a mallet.
0:33:40 > 0:33:42I think we know what's going to happen, don't we?
0:33:42 > 0:33:44- I think there's something quite brutal about this.- Yeah.
0:33:44 > 0:33:47And then you put the coconut onto the concrete...
0:33:47 > 0:33:49In the past, the Delia Effect
0:33:49 > 0:33:52has caused a national cranberry shortage
0:33:52 > 0:33:56and seen salted caper sales rise by 350%.
0:33:58 > 0:33:59She enjoyed that, didn't she?
0:33:59 > 0:34:00Yeah, I think so.
0:34:00 > 0:34:03I think what's great about Delia, she always gave us a little tip,
0:34:03 > 0:34:05didn't she? A handy hint.
0:34:05 > 0:34:08Yeah, she was good at giving tips and it was always very clear.
0:34:08 > 0:34:13You know, nothing too complicated in terms of techniques.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16And just keep sliding the knife in,
0:34:16 > 0:34:19right underneath and then it'll just prise it away, like that.
0:34:19 > 0:34:23And nowadays, you say, "Just buy at your supermarket already prepared."
0:34:23 > 0:34:26Yeah. But she was a huge influence?
0:34:26 > 0:34:29Definitely. I mean, she was, for me...
0:34:29 > 0:34:35Delia was the first solo cookery... personality I watched on TV.
0:34:35 > 0:34:38And I remember watching a lot of her shows
0:34:38 > 0:34:42like Christmas shows and like this one here as a kid
0:34:42 > 0:34:45and enjoying them, obviously.
0:34:45 > 0:34:49But also being interested in what she was cooking
0:34:49 > 0:34:50and discovering new things.
0:34:50 > 0:34:54And I always feel she's kind of combined that kind of
0:34:54 > 0:34:59educational part and also the delicious part, because the food...
0:34:59 > 0:35:01As a kid, it looked really tasty.
0:35:01 > 0:35:06Nowadays, filming food on TV has evolved a little bit,
0:35:06 > 0:35:09the styling is a little bit different. But I think
0:35:09 > 0:35:14back in the '80s, it was pretty...exciting.
0:35:14 > 0:35:15- Yeah.- To see all the different...
0:35:15 > 0:35:20Like, there, cooking a Thai curry, I'd never tasted a Thai curry.
0:35:20 > 0:35:24So it was interesting to see all these flavours and things she was
0:35:24 > 0:35:26exploring and different ingredients.
0:35:26 > 0:35:29Cos she has been there forever, hasn't she?
0:35:29 > 0:35:31I mean, for decades and decades.
0:35:31 > 0:35:34I mean, what has kept her longevity, you know?
0:35:34 > 0:35:37Why do you think she's been there for so long?
0:35:37 > 0:35:40I think the reason why she's been around
0:35:40 > 0:35:43for such a long time is because her recipes work.
0:35:43 > 0:35:48And they're meant for the home cook.
0:35:48 > 0:35:49You know, obviously now she has...
0:35:49 > 0:35:51There's a lot of other TV chefs around.
0:35:51 > 0:35:55- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- And now there's somebody for everyone.
0:35:55 > 0:35:58You know, if you like different types of cookery
0:35:58 > 0:36:00you can find somebody who you like.
0:36:00 > 0:36:03Whereas growing up there were very little.
0:36:03 > 0:36:06And very little women TV chefs.
0:36:06 > 0:36:08So...
0:36:08 > 0:36:11I think when you're growing up as a young girl, a young woman,
0:36:11 > 0:36:15it's great to see a woman on TV
0:36:15 > 0:36:21doing her own show and doing it really well and...
0:36:21 > 0:36:23being intelligent about it as well.
0:36:23 > 0:36:28- Yeah, yeah.- I think it's educational in the way she talks about food,
0:36:28 > 0:36:29but it's still tasty.
0:36:29 > 0:36:34Delia Smith isn't the only legendary female foodie to grace our TVs.
0:36:34 > 0:36:38Way back when it was the culinary delights of Fanny Cradock
0:36:38 > 0:36:41who tickled our taste buds. The First Lady of food,
0:36:41 > 0:36:45Fanny's shows became more about her flamboyant personality
0:36:45 > 0:36:47than her eccentric cooking.
0:36:49 > 0:36:55Another force of nature were The Two Fat Ladies, sadly now both deceased.
0:36:55 > 0:36:59Clarissa Dickson Wright and Jennifer Paterson became cult figures.
0:37:00 > 0:37:02Driving around on a motorbike and sidecar,
0:37:02 > 0:37:06they loved to cook lavish meals inspired by local tradition.
0:37:08 > 0:37:11And our list of legendary ladies celebrity chefs
0:37:11 > 0:37:15simply wouldn't be complete without the lovely Nigella Lawson.
0:37:15 > 0:37:17Renowned as a domestic goddess
0:37:17 > 0:37:21who's put indulgence back into the kitchen, Nigella is famed for
0:37:21 > 0:37:25her provocative presenting style and delicious grub.
0:37:25 > 0:37:29But today, of course, I'm all about another fabulous female chef.
0:37:36 > 0:37:39Rachel, we've seen the television that has influenced you
0:37:39 > 0:37:44but we're going to have a look at your big break. Ms Rachel Khoo.
0:37:44 > 0:37:47This is French food the way the Parisians cook and eat it.
0:37:47 > 0:37:49C'est tout. That's it.
0:37:50 > 0:37:52People always ask me, "Was it really your home?"
0:37:52 > 0:37:54I was like, "Yes!"
0:37:54 > 0:37:57From her own tiny kitchen in Paris to the capital's
0:37:57 > 0:38:02beautiful bistros, Rachel revealed French cooking for the 21st century.
0:38:03 > 0:38:06It was this big, the camera was this big,
0:38:06 > 0:38:09we all had to squeeze in like this, you know.
0:38:09 > 0:38:11- The cameraman...- I think that's what gave it its appeal.
0:38:11 > 0:38:14- Yes.- People are always talking about that tiny kitchen.
0:38:14 > 0:38:16And what you created in that tiny kitchen.
0:38:16 > 0:38:18- Yeah.- It was charming.
0:38:18 > 0:38:22Thank you. All right, for the pistou sauce, it's really easy.
0:38:22 > 0:38:25'Sometimes, you know, the director said, "OK, Rachel,
0:38:25 > 0:38:28'"we need a shot of you stirring the bowl'
0:38:28 > 0:38:30"but your head is in the way."
0:38:30 > 0:38:32And I'm like, "OK..."
0:38:32 > 0:38:35So the cameraman would squeeze in behind me
0:38:35 > 0:38:38and he's have the camera over my shoulder
0:38:38 > 0:38:41and I would be like mixing like this
0:38:41 > 0:38:43and then, like, trying to get that shot.
0:38:43 > 0:38:45So, you know, if we had a behind-the-scenes,
0:38:45 > 0:38:47it would have been very funny.
0:38:47 > 0:38:49- I would have liked to have seen that.- Yeah, and all the camera kit,
0:38:49 > 0:38:51you know, the bags, was popped in the bath.
0:38:51 > 0:38:54- No!- Cos there was no room anywhere else.
0:38:54 > 0:38:58- That's lovely.- Yeah, so, no, it was... It was good fun.
0:38:58 > 0:38:59Would you go back to that?
0:38:59 > 0:39:00Um...
0:39:00 > 0:39:03- No.- No?- I went mad by the end of it.
0:39:03 > 0:39:05I was banging my head against the chopping board.
0:39:05 > 0:39:08All you need now is some sunflower oil.
0:39:08 > 0:39:11Traditional pistou is a bit like the very popular Italian pesto,
0:39:11 > 0:39:15it just doesn't have pine nuts or Parmesan in it.
0:39:15 > 0:39:16And you're going to blend it up.
0:39:16 > 0:39:19'I still have that blender at home.'
0:39:20 > 0:39:24- It works!- And it's got tape on it cos it's, like, falling apart.
0:39:24 > 0:39:28You can use it like a pesto, but it also goes well with potatoes,
0:39:28 > 0:39:29lamb chops.
0:39:29 > 0:39:32And because it has no dairy, it's great for vegans.
0:39:35 > 0:39:36Mm, good.
0:39:36 > 0:39:39It must have been amazing. Did you think it was going to take off?
0:39:39 > 0:39:42- Did you have a feeling?- I mean...
0:39:42 > 0:39:45I knew something big was going to happen, because...
0:39:45 > 0:39:48just to be on the BBC, it's huge.
0:39:48 > 0:39:50Even in France, you know, they know...
0:39:50 > 0:39:53"The BBC? C'est le BBC."
0:39:54 > 0:39:57So I knew something was definitely going to change.
0:39:58 > 0:40:01But, at the same time, because I still lived in Paris
0:40:01 > 0:40:03when the show kicked off,
0:40:03 > 0:40:07I didn't experience that recognising you in the street
0:40:07 > 0:40:09and stuff like that. So my life continued
0:40:09 > 0:40:13as...as usual, you know? It was just when I went back to London
0:40:13 > 0:40:16or, you know, I hop on the train, go back for some meetings
0:40:16 > 0:40:19then I would notice, like, either I had something funny
0:40:19 > 0:40:22on my face when I was on the Tube or people
0:40:22 > 0:40:25were like, "Oh, I recognise her," or something like that. So, yeah.
0:40:25 > 0:40:28- How did it feel getting recognised? - Um... It's...
0:40:28 > 0:40:32I mean, even when it happens now it's always a bit strange.
0:40:32 > 0:40:35As long as people are friendly, then it's OK.
0:40:35 > 0:40:39- Yeah.- And I'm happy to say, "Yeah, hi," and have a photo.
0:40:39 > 0:40:42- Do you still live in Paris? - Um... I'm no longer in Paris.
0:40:42 > 0:40:46I came back a couple of years ago because BBC Worldwide
0:40:46 > 0:40:47offered me to do a show in London.
0:40:47 > 0:40:50And that's where we filmed on Columbia Road,
0:40:50 > 0:40:52I had a kitchen on Columbia Road.
0:40:52 > 0:40:54I was in Paris for eight years.
0:40:54 > 0:40:55It was an amazing time
0:40:55 > 0:40:58and that apartment was great, but, in real life,
0:40:58 > 0:41:02there was mould on the, you know, ceiling.
0:41:02 > 0:41:03The windows didn't shut properly.
0:41:03 > 0:41:09So it was very, kind of, "charming" in the Parisian way.
0:41:09 > 0:41:12So I don't really miss the apartment.
0:41:12 > 0:41:18I miss my friends, I miss the Paris life but it's great to be in London
0:41:18 > 0:41:20and to film other TV shows.
0:41:20 > 0:41:25I really enjoy that and that was a very special moment in my life.
0:41:30 > 0:41:31Rachel, what do you watch now?
0:41:31 > 0:41:35What do I watch now? So, I love box sets.
0:41:35 > 0:41:37Yeah.
0:41:37 > 0:41:38And I don't really have a TV.
0:41:38 > 0:41:42I have a computer. I didn't even have a TV in my kitchen in Paris,
0:41:42 > 0:41:45it was the oven or the TV, and I needed the oven more.
0:41:47 > 0:41:48So recently,
0:41:48 > 0:41:51Luther was on again,
0:41:51 > 0:41:54The Fall. I love all those crime series.
0:41:54 > 0:41:56I'm not so much into cookery shows,
0:41:56 > 0:42:00cos when I watch cookery shows I'm like, "How did they film that?
0:42:00 > 0:42:02- "What camera angle?" - So it's like a busman's holiday?
0:42:02 > 0:42:04Yes. Yeah, yeah.
0:42:04 > 0:42:06Rachel, you've been a wonderful guest.
0:42:06 > 0:42:08You've brought a ray of sunshine to my sofa.
0:42:08 > 0:42:10Oh, thank you!
0:42:10 > 0:42:13I want to thank you and I also want to give you the opportunity now
0:42:13 > 0:42:16to choose a theme tune for us to play out on.
0:42:16 > 0:42:19- Have you thought about this? - Yes. I have thought about it.
0:42:19 > 0:42:23So one of the shows I used to watch as a teenager was, in German,
0:42:23 > 0:42:26which is also very bizarre, The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air.
0:42:26 > 0:42:30- Ah.- And I can't rap but I like the tune.
0:42:30 > 0:42:32It's always so fun.
0:42:32 > 0:42:33- Yeah.- And it's like...
0:42:33 > 0:42:35When you hear it, it's like, "Oh, yeah!"
0:42:35 > 0:42:38- Yeah.- So I thought that would be a good tune for the end.
0:42:38 > 0:42:40- Thank you very much.- Thank you!
0:42:41 > 0:42:43- Two.- Oh, two. I forget.
0:42:43 > 0:42:46- Don't worry. - So, my thanks to you, Rachel,
0:42:46 > 0:42:49and my thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me.
0:42:49 > 0:42:51We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
0:42:51 > 0:42:53# I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there
0:42:53 > 0:42:57# I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
0:43:05 > 0:43:08# In west Philadelphia born and raised
0:43:08 > 0:43:10# On the playground was where I spent most of my days
0:43:10 > 0:43:12# Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool
0:43:12 > 0:43:15# And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
0:43:15 > 0:43:17# When a couple of guys who were up to no good
0:43:17 > 0:43:19# Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
0:43:19 > 0:43:22# I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
0:43:22 > 0:43:24# And said "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air"
0:43:24 > 0:43:27# I whistled for a cab and when it came near
0:43:27 > 0:43:30# The license plate said 'FRESH' and it had dice in the mirror... #