0:00:02 > 0:00:03TV - the magic box of delights.
0:00:03 > 0:00:06As kids, it showed us a million different worlds,
0:00:06 > 0:00:08all from our living room.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10This takes me right back.
0:00:10 > 0:00:12That's so embarrassing!
0:00:12 > 0:00:14I am genuinely shocked.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17Each day, I'm going to journey through the wonderful world of telly
0:00:17 > 0:00:20with one of our favourite celebrities...
0:00:20 > 0:00:22It's just so silly.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26I love it! Is it Mr Benn?
0:00:27 > 0:00:31- Shut it!- ..as they select the iconic TV moments...
0:00:31 > 0:00:33Oh, hello...
0:00:34 > 0:00:37..that tell us the stories of their lives.
0:00:37 > 0:00:39Oh, my gosh!
0:00:39 > 0:00:41- Cheers.- Some will make you laugh...
0:00:41 > 0:00:42HE GROWLS
0:00:42 > 0:00:44LAUGHTER
0:00:44 > 0:00:46..some will surprise...
0:00:46 > 0:00:47TOY SQUEAKS
0:00:47 > 0:00:49..many will inspire...
0:00:49 > 0:00:53- Ooh!- Look at this. Why wouldn't you want to watch this?
0:00:53 > 0:00:55..and others will move us.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58Seeing that there made it huge impact on me.
0:00:58 > 0:01:00Got a handkerchief?
0:01:00 > 0:01:03So, come watch with us as we rewind
0:01:03 > 0:01:07to the classic telly that shaped those
0:01:07 > 0:01:11wide-eyed youngsters into the much-loved stars they are today.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22Welcome to The TV That Made Me.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25My guest today is a well-loved TV presenter.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28Ladies and gentlemen, Kate Garraway.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31- Hello.- Hello, how are you?
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- Very well.- You look absolutely beautiful.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37- Thank you.- Welcome to my humble abode.
0:01:37 > 0:01:39- Look at this.- Come and sit yourself down.
0:01:39 > 0:01:40Nice little pink sofa.
0:01:40 > 0:01:44She's been waking up the nation on breakfast telly for years.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- Hello.- With a radiant smile and ready wit.
0:01:47 > 0:01:51- Thank you very much.- In the midst of all the early starts,
0:01:51 > 0:01:55she's even managed to spare some time to slap on some sequins for
0:01:55 > 0:02:00a shimmy and a shake on Strictly, coming eighth in 2007.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02Amongst the TV that made her...
0:02:02 > 0:02:05The thrilling adventures of a finger puppet and his friends...
0:02:05 > 0:02:07"This isn't really me," says Fingermouse.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10..ground-breaking daily investigative journalism...
0:02:10 > 0:02:12I may well be arrested,
0:02:12 > 0:02:16because I look as if I may be committing an offence in the near future.
0:02:16 > 0:02:19..and a daytime magazine show that knew how to throw a party.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24- Are you looking forward to it?- I am looking forward to it, actually.
0:02:24 > 0:02:25I'm a massive television fan.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28I love watching the telly, I always have done.
0:02:28 > 0:02:32- And yeah, so I do love it. I love a bit of telly.- Yeah?
0:02:32 > 0:02:35Yeah. I should say my favourite thing is friends and family, but really,
0:02:35 > 0:02:37- it's watching telly.- Is it really?
0:02:37 > 0:02:41Yeah, and when I was little, my parents didn't really...
0:02:41 > 0:02:43I don't think they really approved of telly.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47There was always a feeling that radio was somehow better.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49Certainly, we never watched ITV.
0:02:49 > 0:02:51That was a bit spivvy.
0:02:51 > 0:02:55- Oh, really?- And we never watched breakfast television.
0:02:55 > 0:02:58So I'm obviously a huge disappointment to them in a lot of ways, really.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00Seeing as what happened next.
0:03:00 > 0:03:03Well, you talk about your childhood and what we're going to do,
0:03:03 > 0:03:07we're going to look back now, rewind the clock and look at a young Kate.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- Here she is, Kate Garraway.- Oh.
0:03:10 > 0:03:14Born and raised in the quiet historic market town of Abingdon in Oxfordshire...
0:03:17 > 0:03:22Kate Garraway and her younger brother grew up in a happy home,
0:03:22 > 0:03:26with Dad a civil servant and Mum a teacher.
0:03:26 > 0:03:30She was a model pupil at school and budding musician at home.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33Practically a one-woman band.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36With a degree in English and Political History under her belt and
0:03:36 > 0:03:38journalism in her sights,
0:03:38 > 0:03:42she started out in radio before graduating to regional TV news.
0:03:44 > 0:03:46I was a very good girl.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48- Was you?- I was really good girl, yeah.
0:03:48 > 0:03:50I just talked a lot.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52I always got told off for talking, but other than that...
0:03:52 > 0:03:56I was one of those slightly annoying studious ones that tried really hard.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59Didn't necessarily achieve anything, but tried very hard at everything.
0:03:59 > 0:04:02Tried hard at musical instruments, tried hard at everything.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04You'd have hated me at school.
0:04:04 > 0:04:05No, didn't you play the clarinet?
0:04:05 > 0:04:08I played the clarinet, I played the violin...
0:04:08 > 0:04:09Well, it just so happens...
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- Oh, no!- No, I'm joking.- Honestly, I haven't touched it for years.
0:04:12 > 0:04:15The violin, the piano, the recorder...
0:04:15 > 0:04:18- Really?- Yes, I was like, a real joiner-inner.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21- And none of that you've kept up? - No, it's annoying.
0:04:21 > 0:04:25I sort of went off to uni and discovered drinking and boys, I think -
0:04:25 > 0:04:28and stopped playing the clarinet and the violin.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36What is the first TV programme that made a big impression
0:04:36 > 0:04:39on the lovely Kate Garraway?
0:04:41 > 0:04:43- It's Fingerbobs.- I remember it.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45I love a bit of Fingerbobs.
0:04:45 > 0:04:47Fingerbobs.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51# Yoffy lifts a finger... #
0:04:51 > 0:04:53Rick Jones as Yoffy.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55# And a mouse is there. #
0:04:56 > 0:04:59- Different era, isn't it? - Totally different era.
0:04:59 > 0:05:01# Puts his hands together... #
0:05:01 > 0:05:05Fingerbobs was created in 1972 for part of the schedule called
0:05:05 > 0:05:08Watch With Mother and was just 15 minutes long.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11Only 13 episodes were ever made.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14# And a tortoise head peeps out... #
0:05:14 > 0:05:16LAUGHTER
0:05:16 > 0:05:19So, this is something...Kate Garraway really enjoyed?
0:05:19 > 0:05:23I really loved it. Loved Fingerbobs. I made all these things, obviously.
0:05:23 > 0:05:25Oh, really? You made them?
0:05:25 > 0:05:26- Oh, of course I do, yeah.- You made them.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29I made... Oh, my God.
0:05:29 > 0:05:31Hold on. There you go. There's yours.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33I made them especially for you.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36- OK.- So, put the glove on.
0:05:36 > 0:05:39You're going to be the bird and I'm going to be Fingerbob.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41It's a funny time, isn't it?
0:05:41 > 0:05:44Because you think of what our kids watch now,
0:05:44 > 0:05:47there isn't a single show that hasn't got CGI and everything.
0:05:47 > 0:05:52And yet, I was glued to a man in some rather effeminate white gloves,
0:05:52 > 0:05:55a ping pong ball and a bit of orange card. Something like that, wasn't it?
0:05:55 > 0:05:58Aw, we can do our own little show.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01There you go. Brian lifts a finger and a mouse scampers about.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03- Isn't it something like that? - Hello, you're Gulliver.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06- I'm Gulliver.- Hello, Gulliver.
0:06:06 > 0:06:07My name's Fingerbob.
0:06:07 > 0:06:12- Hi.- Give me a peck. - Oh!- There you go.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14It's going to be a thatched roof.
0:06:14 > 0:06:18That's what the straw is for.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20You see? That's brilliant.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22But I suppose there's a bit of effort gone into it.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25And now he's bringing some more straw. This could be a two-part series.
0:06:25 > 0:06:29- Here's another load.- So, it takes you back?
0:06:29 > 0:06:32It really takes me back, it really takes me back.
0:06:32 > 0:06:34And you know...
0:06:34 > 0:06:38Talk about being of its era, because actually, it's fascinating,
0:06:38 > 0:06:41cos look - I think they've got personalities, those bits
0:06:41 > 0:06:44of cardboard. They have, Brian!
0:06:44 > 0:06:47Hmm. "This isn't really me," says Fingermouse.
0:06:47 > 0:06:51There must be something more interesting for me to do.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53I wonder what's through that door?
0:06:53 > 0:06:56When I was little - you're probably younger than me - when I was little,
0:06:56 > 0:06:59you didn't have a lot of choice, did you, in terms of what you watched?
0:06:59 > 0:07:04You had programmes like this and Camberwick Green and all of that on
0:07:04 > 0:07:08at lunchtime and then it went off.
0:07:08 > 0:07:10My children can't believe this.
0:07:10 > 0:07:14The TV went off and didn't pop up again until 3.30,
0:07:14 > 0:07:18when you saw other things. And so, when you were really young, preschool,
0:07:18 > 0:07:20and when you had a sore throat or something,
0:07:20 > 0:07:24this was just like finding a diamond on an allotment or something.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27This was just amazing. It's brilliant and I like it.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- It makes me feel cosy, just watching it.- Yeah, yeah.
0:07:29 > 0:07:33So, was the telly a big thing, a big part of your life?
0:07:33 > 0:07:34There were big moments of telly.
0:07:34 > 0:07:39I always loved it, I was always drawn to it, right from when I was very little.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41I thought it was the most fascinating thing.
0:07:41 > 0:07:44We certainly didn't put it on at breakfast.
0:07:44 > 0:07:48You were allowed to - when you were off school - watch Fingerbobs,
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Camberwick Green and Trumpton.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52And after school, you were allowed to watch certain things.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54But in terms of sitting down to watch TV,
0:07:54 > 0:07:57it was very much sitting down and watching certain things.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00Natural history programmes, loved that.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03Yeah, you'd sit down and watch TV as a family.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06Go into the kitchen to have your tea, go into the sitting room...
0:08:06 > 0:08:09So, when you were in the sitting room, were there snacks allowed?
0:08:09 > 0:08:11Were you allowed to have anything?
0:08:11 > 0:08:13- Not really.- No?
0:08:13 > 0:08:17No, not really. I don't know whether we were especially messy as kids.
0:08:17 > 0:08:21Sunday nights and Saturday nights you were allowed to have sandwiches in
0:08:21 > 0:08:24the lounge and everything, but we didn't really do that.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27- Crumpets?- Crumpets, that was my favourite night.
0:08:27 > 0:08:32They'd bring it on Saturday night, we'd have crumpets,
0:08:32 > 0:08:34Duchess Of Duke Street and Starsky And Hutch.
0:08:34 > 0:08:36I'll get the crumpets.
0:08:36 > 0:08:37LAUGHTER
0:08:37 > 0:08:41I mean, can you ask more than that? Get me a crumpet.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43I have a crumpet.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46This is a big deal, because we weren't really allowed to eat
0:08:46 > 0:08:47food on our laps. Look at that!
0:08:47 > 0:08:51- Giving Kate a bit of crumpet! - I could be...
0:08:51 > 0:08:53LAUGHTER
0:08:53 > 0:08:55Warm crumpet, melted butter,
0:08:55 > 0:08:57life can't get better than that, can it?
0:08:57 > 0:09:00No, I think I'd like a little bit of jam on that, though.
0:09:00 > 0:09:04- No?- You see, I would never have dreamed of jam when I was little.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06This was enough for me.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07You and all your big expectations.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10Always pushing for more.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12I know, I know, I do want a bit more.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14LAUGHTER
0:09:14 > 0:09:17- I was like that.- I'm not going to be able to speak now for a while.
0:09:19 > 0:09:24We're going to move on to something that will bring a lump to your throat.
0:09:24 > 0:09:27- OK.- This is...tears before... - In a good way?
0:09:27 > 0:09:29Yeah, of course in a good way.
0:09:29 > 0:09:32Tears of TV.
0:09:32 > 0:09:34Lassie!
0:09:37 > 0:09:38Lassie!
0:09:39 > 0:09:41Oh, no!
0:09:41 > 0:09:44I need an old piece of second-hand used furniture.
0:09:44 > 0:09:46- Oh?- For school.
0:09:46 > 0:09:48We're having an auction for poor people.
0:09:48 > 0:09:51That sounds like a worthwhile cause.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54We use all our second-hand used furniture.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- There's nothing to do with it. - Did you want to be Timmy?
0:09:57 > 0:09:59I wanted... I wanted Lassie as a pet.
0:09:59 > 0:10:03Lassie, the fictional female rough collie dog character,
0:10:03 > 0:10:06created by Eric Knight in his 1940 novel,
0:10:06 > 0:10:12spawned 11 films and a TV series that started in the 1950s and has been on
0:10:12 > 0:10:15our screens pretty much ever since.
0:10:15 > 0:10:20The original Lassie was played by a male dog called Pal and bar one film,
0:10:20 > 0:10:24his male descendants have always starred as the heroic canine.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26Maybe you have, I don't know.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30- Let's investigate.- It still pulls all those heartstrings.
0:10:30 > 0:10:31I reckon my children would...
0:10:31 > 0:10:33If it was on now, I think my kids would love it even now.
0:10:33 > 0:10:36I can remember it getting to the end and I would say to my mum,
0:10:36 > 0:10:39"I've got a sore throat." She was like, "I think you're crying."
0:10:39 > 0:10:43"I think that's what it is." And it was the first time I remember,
0:10:43 > 0:10:47when I was really little, just being really
0:10:47 > 0:10:49moved by TV.
0:10:49 > 0:10:53You know when Lassie used to have those moments where he tried
0:10:53 > 0:10:56to help out - someone had fallen down the mine
0:10:56 > 0:10:58and he'd bark away at them.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00- Oh, he was brilliant, wasn't he? - HE IMITATES BARKING
0:11:00 > 0:11:03- And they always used to understand. - I know, I love those moments.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05I got it. I knew exactly what Lassie was saying.
0:11:05 > 0:11:08- Really?- Yeah.- Well, let's put that to the test.- Oh, no!
0:11:08 > 0:11:10LAUGHTER
0:11:11 > 0:11:16- What, Kate Garraway...- OK.- ..is Lassie saying right now?
0:11:17 > 0:11:19LASSIE BARKS
0:11:19 > 0:11:22Oh, I know. She's saying, "Please check under there,
0:11:22 > 0:11:24- "someone's trapped, someone's trapped."- Oh, yes.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26There you go.
0:11:26 > 0:11:28Trapped in the storm shelter.
0:11:28 > 0:11:30Trapped in a storm shelter.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32Lassie has brought the rescuers to the correct place,
0:11:32 > 0:11:36they've opened up...
0:11:37 > 0:11:41- And there he is!- Timmy is saved! - Lassie's saved...- Come on...
0:11:41 > 0:11:42APPLAUSE
0:11:42 > 0:11:44We'll do one more for luck.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47- One more for luck.- Seeing as you're on a roll.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49There we go.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52Wow. Now, this is important.
0:11:52 > 0:11:54- What is it, girl?- What is it, girl?
0:11:54 > 0:11:56Someone's got trapped down a well.
0:11:56 > 0:12:00Have they? Someone is...
0:12:00 > 0:12:03- Not far off.- Is it not down a well? Down a mine shaft?
0:12:03 > 0:12:06A mine shaft has collapsed, someone's got to be dug out?
0:12:06 > 0:12:08It is.
0:12:09 > 0:12:11Timmy, are you all right?
0:12:11 > 0:12:12Look! You know, you know!
0:12:13 > 0:12:16- Well done. - Now, you know why?
0:12:16 > 0:12:20Because someone was always trapped down a mine shaft, every week!
0:12:20 > 0:12:23I think the writers must've taken the afternoon off.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25They write a little bit and go, "Oh, that'll do."
0:12:25 > 0:12:29He always needed someone... Someone needed to be dug out of somewhere every week.
0:12:29 > 0:12:31Someone had to be trapped in a mine shaft.
0:12:31 > 0:12:33- Timmy had a tough old life.- Yeah.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37From pedigree pooches to mongrel mutts,
0:12:37 > 0:12:39we love seeing dogs on our TVs.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42Who doesn't remember at least one of ten pet dogs that have appeared on
0:12:42 > 0:12:47Blue Peter? Starting with Petra in 1962.
0:12:47 > 0:12:52Most memorable, perhaps, are Shep for seven years, from 1971
0:12:52 > 0:12:54and Goldie from 1978.
0:12:58 > 0:13:00More recently, Chalky the Jack Russell
0:13:00 > 0:13:03accompanied chef Rick Stein on all
0:13:03 > 0:13:06his adventures around the British Isles and Ireland.
0:13:06 > 0:13:08He got up to some mighty capers,
0:13:08 > 0:13:11leaping at microphones and snarling at cameramen.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17And as Roly the giant poodle proved in EastEnders,
0:13:17 > 0:13:21no long-running soap opera is complete without
0:13:21 > 0:13:24a four-legged resident amongst the regular cast.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Then came the more macho Wellard,
0:13:26 > 0:13:30the Alsatian who famously bit Ian Beale on the bottom.
0:13:30 > 0:13:36Barbara Woodhouse would certainly have a thing or two to say about that.
0:13:36 > 0:13:39So, who controlled the remote control?
0:13:39 > 0:13:43Well, I'm so old, that for a long time, we didn't have a remote control.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45Oh, you had to get up and turn the telly over.
0:13:45 > 0:13:48You had to get up and turn the telly over.
0:13:48 > 0:13:52Which often, I was made to do, clearly. Cos you know, you get kids to do that,
0:13:52 > 0:13:55don't you? But it was always at my dad's instruction.
0:13:55 > 0:13:58So, Dad had the charge - he was the man,
0:13:58 > 0:14:01he was in charge of the mythical remote control, or indeed the bottom.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- Yeah?- Yeah.- Did he have Dad's chair?
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- How was the- setup? Yeah, you're taking me back now.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09Yeah, so Dad had a swivel chair...
0:14:09 > 0:14:12- Ooh.- I presume, like something from the X-Men.
0:14:12 > 0:14:14- Very- '70s. He could survey the scene.
0:14:14 > 0:14:19He had a swivel chair, brown sofa, brother and I.
0:14:19 > 0:14:23Mum, kind of flitting in and out, cos mums, they always have jobs to do.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26- They do. They're busy. - They're washing up.
0:14:26 > 0:14:30Flitting in and out, would often sit down on a little pouffe.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31Aw, like a little pouffe?
0:14:31 > 0:14:34A little pouffe, or we'd squish up for Saturday night.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37We'd all sit on the sofa, apart from Dad.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39And what would you be watching on a Saturday night?
0:14:39 > 0:14:41So, Saturday night... I love Saturday night.
0:14:41 > 0:14:45I still think Saturday night in front of the telly is just a great
0:14:45 > 0:14:50thing to do. And for me, the era I can remember, I must have been about 10 or 11,
0:14:50 > 0:14:53something like that - it was Duchess Of Duke Street.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56- Do you even remember Duchess Of Duke Street?- Yeah.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58- I do.- There was always a drama below stairs, wasn't there?
0:14:58 > 0:15:01And a party upstairs. There was always something going on.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04And then after it was Starsky And Hutch.
0:15:04 > 0:15:08And I would have this thing where I was convinced I was going on a date with David Soul - Hutch.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10So, I would,
0:15:10 > 0:15:13during the end of Duchess Of Duke Street, as the title rolled,
0:15:13 > 0:15:17race upstairs, put on my mum's peach nightie, which she's still got...
0:15:17 > 0:15:19Peach nightie, put on lipstick...
0:15:19 > 0:15:23- Your mum has still got that peach nightie?- I think she kept it for sentimental reasons,
0:15:23 > 0:15:26because there's so many pictures of me in this peach nightie.
0:15:26 > 0:15:30Peach nightie, bright red lipstick, which was hers - or orange red lipstick -
0:15:30 > 0:15:33come downstairs and say I was going on a date with Hutch,
0:15:33 > 0:15:37as the Starsky And Hutch titles rolled. And I couldn't really speak, I would say,
0:15:37 > 0:15:41"I'm going on a date with Hutch." And my dad would torment me by trying to make me speak,
0:15:41 > 0:15:44because I wouldn't want to ruin my lipstick. And I was obsessed with David Soul.
0:15:44 > 0:15:49I even made this felt purse and I cut a picture of him out of a box.
0:15:49 > 0:15:53I've still got it and I later interviewed David Soul when I was
0:15:53 > 0:15:56working at ITV and I showed him this and I think he was a little bit scared,
0:15:56 > 0:15:58if I'm honest.
0:15:58 > 0:15:59LAUGHTER
0:15:59 > 0:16:02I think he was like, "That's lovely.
0:16:02 > 0:16:04"Please take this woman away."
0:16:04 > 0:16:06LAUGHTER
0:16:06 > 0:16:07Yeah.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14Well, we're going to go onto your Must See TV now.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16- OK.- Have a little look at this.
0:16:16 > 0:16:18- Shall we have a look?- Yeah.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21What does it feel like to be alone,
0:16:21 > 0:16:24out of work and homeless in the big city?
0:16:24 > 0:16:26Nationwide, Kate.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29Nationwide, yeah.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31Following the national news,
0:16:31 > 0:16:35this magazine-style current affairs series ran every weekday for
0:16:35 > 0:16:39over 3,000 episodes from 1969.
0:16:39 > 0:16:40By becoming Tony Crabbe,
0:16:40 > 0:16:43I hope to find the answers to all questions by experiencing life
0:16:43 > 0:16:46in the gutter first-hand.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49- Wow.- Immersive journalism, it was then, wasn't it?
0:16:49 > 0:16:53It was. So, Nationwide - and we don't have anything like it,
0:16:53 > 0:16:56although The One Show, I guess, has that vibe about it, hasn't it?
0:16:56 > 0:16:59When I was little,
0:16:59 > 0:17:02my dad sat down and wanted to watch the Six O'clock News,
0:17:02 > 0:17:05because in those days, dads got home for six.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08So many dads don't - poor things, stuck in traffic, working late,
0:17:08 > 0:17:11working weird shifts. If your dad got home,
0:17:11 > 0:17:14he wanted to watch the Six O'clock News, which I found a bit boring.
0:17:14 > 0:17:15I didn't understand most of it.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19But then Nationwide came on afterwards and Nationwide,
0:17:19 > 0:17:20I just thought was extraordinary.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23Everything about me had to look right.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27BBC make-up girl Sula cut lumps out of my hair and made it look dirty.
0:17:27 > 0:17:29It had something funny, something clever,
0:17:29 > 0:17:32I think people forget that kind of journalism.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36That report was amazing. It's very common now for reporters to do that,
0:17:36 > 0:17:38to go and experience things for real.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41But no-one had done that before and he went and he lived on the streets
0:17:41 > 0:17:44and he showed a side of being homeless that, certainly, I'd never seen.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46Most people had never seen before.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49My dirty clothes actually make me look a suspicious person.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52Because I've got nowhere to go and nothing to do,
0:17:52 > 0:17:54I may well be arrested...
0:17:54 > 0:17:58He didn't make it romantic, as though all the homeless people were poor, fallen souls.
0:17:58 > 0:18:02He showed it as it was and you know, some of them were
0:18:02 > 0:18:05their own worst enemies,
0:18:05 > 0:18:08some of them are actually quite threatening and violent and it just
0:18:08 > 0:18:10revealed a whole world, in a way,
0:18:10 > 0:18:12that made sense to me and made me want to be a journalist.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15- Oh, really?- Made me want to be a journalist, yeah.
0:18:15 > 0:18:19I think it's fascinating and I think breakfast TV and a lot of
0:18:19 > 0:18:23news programmes now have learnt a lot from shows like Nationwide.
0:18:23 > 0:18:27I think we are trying to make things more welcoming to more people,
0:18:27 > 0:18:32rather than very posh, serious news like it used to be when I was little.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36Is it true that when you was little, you used to interview yourself?
0:18:36 > 0:18:39Yeah, when I was little, I had one of those reel-to-reel...
0:18:39 > 0:18:43- Do you remember those?- Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.- And also,
0:18:43 > 0:18:46one of those square-box ones where you press play and record together.
0:18:46 > 0:18:49And I would record interviews with myself.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53Sometimes, I'd be characters of TV programmes and we still have the tape
0:18:53 > 0:18:58of me interviewing myself - me being both myself and Margaret Thatcher.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00Oh! And what age would you be?
0:19:00 > 0:19:05Well, I was really little. She was education secretary at the time. I obviously didn't really know that,
0:19:05 > 0:19:08I just knew that she'd taken away the milk in schools for kids
0:19:08 > 0:19:12and my mother was furious about it. I was delighted, because it was disgusting.
0:19:12 > 0:19:16But I knew this was a big scandal and children were apparently suffering.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18So I was interviewing her, saying, "How dare you?"
0:19:18 > 0:19:21And she was saying, "Some may argue that, actually,
0:19:21 > 0:19:22"it's good to get rid of milk."
0:19:22 > 0:19:24And I would answer again.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26We've still got it, so my mum was like,
0:19:26 > 0:19:29either you were going to be bonkers,
0:19:29 > 0:19:33or you were probably going to be an interviewer when you grew up! From that evidence.
0:19:33 > 0:19:37- Do you enjoy interviewing people? - Yeah. Don't you?- Oh, I do.
0:19:37 > 0:19:41- I find it interesting.- And I think talking to people is the most fun.
0:19:41 > 0:19:44I don't really have any proper hobbies, I just like talking to people,
0:19:44 > 0:19:47whether it's getting into a cab or sitting on a bus.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50I'm one of those weird people who says, Hi, how are you?"
0:19:50 > 0:19:54And starts talking to people and I think to get the chance to talk to
0:19:54 > 0:19:57people generally and also people with extraordinary stories to tell,
0:19:57 > 0:19:59who have done amazing things in life...
0:19:59 > 0:20:02- I mean, what a way to pay the mortgage.- Yeah.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- It doesn't get any better than that, does it?- Yeah.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12Now, I believe, Kate, you've got a love of Pot Noodle.
0:20:12 > 0:20:15Well now, my parents...
0:20:15 > 0:20:18I didn't realise it, but my dad had two allotments at one point.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20He grew loads of vegetables.
0:20:20 > 0:20:23We had fresh, home-grown vegetables all our life.
0:20:23 > 0:20:29Amazing - and then, one day, my brother and I saw an advert for Pot Noodle.
0:20:29 > 0:20:32Should be here in four minutes.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34Don't fuss, Mum. You know what I like.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37Launched by Golden Wonder in 1977,
0:20:37 > 0:20:41its adverts focused on the convenience and simplicity of this quick, hot snack.
0:20:41 > 0:20:46Tender pasta noodles with vegetables and soya pieces in a rich, savoury sauce.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49Marketed as the Instant Nibble,
0:20:49 > 0:20:53the ads were designed to appeal to everyone, whether at work, on the sofa,
0:20:53 > 0:20:55or even on the hoof.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58Now in new sweet-and-sour, and cheese and tomato flavours.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00A snack in a pot...
0:21:00 > 0:21:05- Makes sense...- Pour water on, open a sachet...- Bring it on.- ..all manner of delights.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08Never tasted such a thing, but saw the advert.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11And on Christmas Eve one year, my mum, out of exasperation said,
0:21:11 > 0:21:14"You can have anything you want to eat. What do you fancy eating?"
0:21:14 > 0:21:16And we both said, "Pot Noodle."
0:21:16 > 0:21:19I think it literally broke my parents' heart.
0:21:19 > 0:21:23If I said, you know, "I'm about to run away with the circus,"
0:21:23 > 0:21:25she would've been less distressed.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29- You're easily pleased. - I know!- Aren't you?
0:21:29 > 0:21:32"I am going to take you out on a date, let's go and have a Pot Noodle."
0:21:32 > 0:21:35- LAUGHTER - What's wrong with that?
0:21:40 > 0:21:42Can we talk about fashion, Kate?
0:21:42 > 0:21:46Did fashion play a big part in Kate's growing up?
0:21:46 > 0:21:50Fashion? I don't know that I was ever fashionable, really.
0:21:50 > 0:21:55I loved clothes and I loved experimenting with things,
0:21:55 > 0:21:58but, um... I wasn't trendy.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02I seemed to spend a lot of time wearing tweed, which I'm not sure was ever fashionable.
0:22:02 > 0:22:05There was a programme, which you won't know about, you won't remember,
0:22:05 > 0:22:09because I've not really met many people that ever watched it,
0:22:09 > 0:22:13but it was called Gems. It was on in the afternoon, as that dead period,
0:22:13 > 0:22:16when there was nothing on the screen, started to change and people used to
0:22:16 > 0:22:19put a few shows and, like Sons And Daughters popped up in the afternoons.
0:22:19 > 0:22:25- Oh, God. I remember that.- Gems was there as a golden jewel on a quiet afternoon,
0:22:25 > 0:22:28particularly when you had free periods in the sixth form,
0:22:28 > 0:22:31where you could sneak home and it was a little bit like Howard's Way.
0:22:31 > 0:22:33- Do you remember Howard's Way?- Yes.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37It was sort of glamorous and sort of a bit naff, really.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40It was set in the fashion industry and there were models having dramas and
0:22:40 > 0:22:43I thought it was brilliant.
0:22:43 > 0:22:46It was a little bit glamorous, it was a little bit ridiculous,
0:22:46 > 0:22:50- people occasionally had a little kiss.- Ooh, in the afternoon?
0:22:50 > 0:22:52- Saucy. - LAUGHTER
0:22:52 > 0:22:55I know, I know. Sometimes, they weren't even married.
0:22:55 > 0:22:57I know, it's amazing. And I loved it.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59I don't know where it is now.
0:22:59 > 0:23:02It's never been repeated, I don't know where it's gone.
0:23:02 > 0:23:05Well, we've got a little moment from it.
0:23:05 > 0:23:10- Oh, I'd love to see that again. - Here we go, this is Gems.
0:23:10 > 0:23:14Look at this! Why wouldn't you want to watch this?
0:23:14 > 0:23:16- Covent Garden...- Covent Garden. - There's no-one there!
0:23:16 > 0:23:19It's glamorous, no-one is there, but she's turning heads.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21Oh, yes.
0:23:25 > 0:23:28- Tops are being unzipped... - Ooh, hello!- I know!
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- That was a bit racy, wasn't it? - That's what I mean!
0:23:31 > 0:23:35Running for three years from 1985, and broadcasting three times a week
0:23:35 > 0:23:38during the day, Gems was a soap
0:23:38 > 0:23:42set in a stylish fashion house in London's Covent Garden.
0:23:52 > 0:23:53I have to tell you, Stephen -
0:23:53 > 0:23:57if we don't get that skirt the way I want it,
0:23:57 > 0:24:00Tilbins won't want that jacket on its own, OK?
0:24:00 > 0:24:02Now, that's a drama!
0:24:02 > 0:24:05If they don't get that skirt the way it's needed...
0:24:05 > 0:24:06We know where it's going.
0:24:06 > 0:24:08I was completely...
0:24:08 > 0:24:12- Ooh.- And there we go, and she's... - She's not happy.- You see? Brilliant.
0:24:12 > 0:24:15Absolutely brilliant. That was pretty much the way every episode went.
0:24:15 > 0:24:19- Someone was cross about something... - Finish on a cliffhanger, did it?
0:24:19 > 0:24:21Finished on a cliffhanger and it was brilliant.
0:24:21 > 0:24:25- Yeah, I loved Gems.- So, fashion not playing a big part in Kate's life, really?
0:24:25 > 0:24:28I've always loved fashion.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31I used to love... It's one of the reasons why I used to love GMTV -
0:24:31 > 0:24:35long before I was on it, when I was watching it when it was TV-am with Anne Diamond
0:24:35 > 0:24:38and Anthea Turner, over all the years.
0:24:38 > 0:24:40Lorraine Kelly, fab, all her fashion.
0:24:40 > 0:24:42- I've always loved fashion.- Since Gems,
0:24:42 > 0:24:46fashion designers have rarely been off our screens.
0:24:46 > 0:24:50The Clothes Show, beginning in 1986, reported straight from the catwalk.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53Presented by Jeff Banks and Selina Scott,
0:24:53 > 0:24:55it offered glimpses into haute couture
0:24:55 > 0:24:59as well as style on a budget.
0:24:59 > 0:25:04In 1991, House Of Elliott gave us more drama from the fashion world,
0:25:04 > 0:25:06as designers the Elliott sisters
0:25:06 > 0:25:09made their way as dressmakers in 1920s London.
0:25:12 > 0:25:16Absolutely Fabulous arrived with a bang in 1992.
0:25:16 > 0:25:18Jennifer Saunders and Joanna Lumley embraced
0:25:18 > 0:25:21the heady world of fashion in
0:25:21 > 0:25:25their comedy drama for five fabulous series.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28In 2001, Trinny and Susannah
0:25:28 > 0:25:32were telling us What Not To Wear in their hit series.
0:25:32 > 0:25:34Then in 2006 came Gok Wan,
0:25:34 > 0:25:38who told us not to wear clothes at all, in his series,
0:25:38 > 0:25:40How To Look Good Naked.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48This is your comedy hero,
0:25:48 > 0:25:51a lady who used to give you a lot of belly laughs.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54On the 28th of January...
0:25:54 > 0:25:58Mr and Mrs Robinson from Harrow on the Weald...
0:25:58 > 0:26:02- Pamela Stephenson.- Pamela Stephenson, yeah. - From Not The 9 O'Clock News.
0:26:02 > 0:26:03Yeah, I know exactly where...
0:26:03 > 0:26:06But then, the trouble started...
0:26:06 > 0:26:09On February the 19th, the Robinsons' seven-year-old son, George,
0:26:09 > 0:26:13got an attack of appendicitis had to be rushed to hospital.
0:26:13 > 0:26:17They rang the electricity board, who responded...
0:26:17 > 0:26:20"This has got nothing to do with us."
0:26:20 > 0:26:24Joining Pamela Stephenson in the hit comedy sketch show,
0:26:24 > 0:26:28Not The 9 O'Clock News, was Rowan Atkinson, Griff Rhys Jones and Mel Smith.
0:26:28 > 0:26:32I mean, Not The 9 O'Clock News was a really great show.
0:26:32 > 0:26:34And she was brilliant, wasn't she?
0:26:34 > 0:26:38Cos you know, I guess we still have a little bit of that trouble now where
0:26:38 > 0:26:40people don't think women can be funny.
0:26:40 > 0:26:44- And she came along and I think, blew all that out of the water.- Yeah.
0:26:44 > 0:26:46With a satirical take on current affairs,
0:26:46 > 0:26:51the series also lampooned popular TV shows and personalities.
0:26:51 > 0:26:53Naturally upset by this,
0:26:53 > 0:26:57Mr and Mrs Robinson had a quarrel which ended in Mr Robinson savagely
0:26:57 > 0:27:00pushing his wife through a plate-glass window.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03On both occasions, they contacted the electricity board,
0:27:03 > 0:27:08and on both occasions, they were told...
0:27:08 > 0:27:10"I'm sorry, this really has got nothing to do with us."
0:27:10 > 0:27:14I think she was definitely one of the first female artists that I was
0:27:14 > 0:27:19aware of, to come along and to have a woman being funny and holding her own
0:27:19 > 0:27:22and not just playing a giggly woman,
0:27:22 > 0:27:26but absolutely intrinsic to the comedy and funny in her own right.
0:27:26 > 0:27:29Definitely, I think she's brilliant.
0:27:33 > 0:27:36Kate, now it's a little bit of comfort television for you.
0:27:36 > 0:27:38Oh, snugly viewing.
0:27:38 > 0:27:42Yet, it's something that would put an arm around you when you were at home
0:27:42 > 0:27:44and not feeling 100%, you know?
0:27:44 > 0:27:46Aw, OK, let's have a look.
0:27:46 > 0:27:49- It's Pebble Mill.- Pebble Mill?
0:27:49 > 0:27:51- Pebble Mill At One.- Oh, I love Pebble Mill!
0:27:54 > 0:27:58Starting in 1972, and broadcasting live at lunchtime
0:27:58 > 0:28:01from the foyer of Birmingham's Pebble Mill,
0:28:01 > 0:28:04it was one of the pioneers of daytime television.
0:28:09 > 0:28:11What was it you liked about it?
0:28:11 > 0:28:12It's a funny thing, isn't it...?
0:28:12 > 0:28:14..thinking why.
0:28:14 > 0:28:16Because I was quite young when I used to watch it.
0:28:16 > 0:28:21It was stuff about how to get rid of a baby belly after you've given birth.
0:28:21 > 0:28:25I'd be like this, absolutely glued - "Wow, that's amazing!"
0:28:25 > 0:28:29And it would be stuff really aimed for mums and housewives, of course.
0:28:29 > 0:28:31- And students.- And students.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33I think students must have watched bewildered, like me,
0:28:33 > 0:28:36but there wasn't anything else on,
0:28:36 > 0:28:39so you watched it and loved it and it was snugly and the presenters made
0:28:39 > 0:28:42- you feel comfortable.- This, I think, is a lovely clip,
0:28:42 > 0:28:44because if you watch it,
0:28:44 > 0:28:47you realise that the presenters are actually slightly inebriated -
0:28:47 > 0:28:50and this is a show just before Christmas.
0:28:50 > 0:28:52- OK.- I'm just about finished on my naughty sporty..
0:28:52 > 0:28:55- Naughty sporty?!- Naughty sporty, yeah, which is actually...
0:28:55 > 0:29:01I mean, it's a glass with a legwarmer on it and it's a black and leather lace garter
0:29:01 > 0:29:03seductively tied around the top.
0:29:03 > 0:29:08Alcohol and a live studio programme is really a recipe for disaster, isn't it?
0:29:08 > 0:29:12- It's not good, is it? - Oh, now there's a comb over.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15Dynamite band, yeah, coming on.
0:29:15 > 0:29:18She's had a couple of cocktails, hasn't she?
0:29:18 > 0:29:20# Now I'm the king of the swingers, oh
0:29:20 > 0:29:22# The jungle VIP... #
0:29:22 > 0:29:24Oh, dear!
0:29:25 > 0:29:27- You used to love this. - I loved it!
0:29:27 > 0:29:29# I want to be like you-ooh-ooh... #
0:29:29 > 0:29:31What's he wearing?
0:29:31 > 0:29:34# I want to walk like you, talk like you, dooby-doo... #
0:29:34 > 0:29:36That is an office party
0:29:36 > 0:29:39that everyone is going to regret.
0:29:39 > 0:29:43You see, this is why students loved it, because it's just sort
0:29:43 > 0:29:45of surreal, isn't it?
0:29:49 > 0:29:50It's like...
0:29:50 > 0:29:52car-crash TV.
0:29:53 > 0:29:57Regular hosts for the first few years of Pebble Mill were Donny MacLeod
0:29:57 > 0:30:00Bob Langley and Marian Foster.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03Later, they were joined by Jan Leeming and David Seymour.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06And when he wasn't making saucy cocktails,
0:30:06 > 0:30:10regular strands included Jeff Banks' fashion and style tips.
0:30:10 > 0:30:12By 1991, Alan Titchmarsh was at the helm
0:30:12 > 0:30:17and the series ran for a further five years.
0:30:17 > 0:30:20I mean, would you like to have worked on Pebble Mill At One?
0:30:20 > 0:30:23I'd love to have worked on Pebble Mill At One.
0:30:23 > 0:30:27Let's be honest, it's not a million miles from shows I've done since on breakfast TV.
0:30:27 > 0:30:31It's that mixture of a bit of fun, a bit of serious,
0:30:31 > 0:30:34a bit of comfy, a bit of hard news.
0:30:34 > 0:30:38It's that kind of thing, isn't it? Maybe less hard news, but...
0:30:38 > 0:30:41You know, it's essentially magazine shows.
0:30:41 > 0:30:43I mean, out of all those genres, what you've just said,
0:30:43 > 0:30:45which one do you aspire to?
0:30:45 > 0:30:49Which one do you enjoy the most?
0:30:49 > 0:30:52Well, I think, weirdly enough, it's the mixture that I like.
0:30:52 > 0:30:56I don't think there's anywhere else but in breakfast TV generally,
0:30:56 > 0:30:58where you get the chance to...
0:30:58 > 0:31:02There isn't, is there? When you sit down and you can speak to
0:31:02 > 0:31:05a Hollywood star about what they do,
0:31:05 > 0:31:10a mum who has tragically lost their child through something ghastly and
0:31:10 > 0:31:12is fighting for justice...
0:31:12 > 0:31:15Give a politician a good talking to about something that you care
0:31:15 > 0:31:17about and your peers care about and...
0:31:17 > 0:31:21I just don't think there's anywhere else that you get the chance to do that.
0:31:21 > 0:31:25Is there any presenters that you admired, growing up?
0:31:25 > 0:31:28Yeah, I suppose it was all the ones
0:31:28 > 0:31:31that did that.
0:31:31 > 0:31:35I mean, I particularly remember Anne Diamond as being somebody who,
0:31:35 > 0:31:39when I was younger, I felt was quite tough when she needed to be,
0:31:39 > 0:31:44and was not afraid to ask really direct questions - really simple questions.
0:31:44 > 0:31:47Well, we've got a clip of Anne Diamond now.
0:31:47 > 0:31:49Have a little look. Here she is in action.
0:31:49 > 0:31:52Your party pilloried Mrs Thatcher the other day for admitting that she
0:31:52 > 0:31:56- believes in private health care.- Oh, no. With great respect...
0:31:56 > 0:31:58She's completely in control of this, isn't she?
0:31:58 > 0:32:01Totally, totally.
0:32:01 > 0:32:06Anne Diamond joined TV-am as the main presenter in 1983, aged just 28.
0:32:06 > 0:32:10- They have raked this up from two years ago...- But isn't it a fact that she did once...
0:32:10 > 0:32:12- Would you listen?- Well, I'm trying to get to that basic fact.
0:32:12 > 0:32:15If you read that story...
0:32:15 > 0:32:19She's not flustered, is she, by them trying to show her up?
0:32:19 > 0:32:20I think that what's lovely is,
0:32:20 > 0:32:23these are some of the biggest politicians at that time,
0:32:23 > 0:32:28- and she's standing up to them.- She is, and in a very gentle way, actually.
0:32:28 > 0:32:31She still slightly mischievous and
0:32:31 > 0:32:34very honest and not prepared to be bullied and say, actually,
0:32:34 > 0:32:36"I don't see why I should."
0:32:36 > 0:32:42She was a very new type of presenter, a new type of woman presenter.
0:32:42 > 0:32:45Do let us know what do you think about that,
0:32:45 > 0:32:48whether or not one should have brought up what was on the front page of The Sun
0:32:48 > 0:32:50this morning or not. We'd like to know your opinion.
0:32:50 > 0:32:53- We'll take a break.- What is it about Anne that really inspired you?
0:32:53 > 0:32:56Anne Diamond came along and before that, there were some serious,
0:32:56 > 0:32:59very good newsreaders.
0:32:59 > 0:33:01And there were some fun, frivolous
0:33:01 > 0:33:04female presenters.
0:33:04 > 0:33:07What I thought was great about her was, she was clearly full of fun,
0:33:07 > 0:33:10she could do all the fun stuff, all the light-hearted stuff,
0:33:10 > 0:33:12but she wasn't afraid to talk straight.
0:33:12 > 0:33:15She was a brilliant journalist and yeah,
0:33:15 > 0:33:21held her own whoever was on the sofa in front of her. Yeah.
0:33:21 > 0:33:23Have you got a bit of that straight talking in you?
0:33:23 > 0:33:26- I think you have.- I think it probably have a little bit.
0:33:26 > 0:33:29I think I have, yeah. I do do a lot of research.
0:33:29 > 0:33:33I learned very early on that actually, you've got to be...
0:33:33 > 0:33:35You've got to do your homework.
0:33:35 > 0:33:39You can't know everything and politicians will always bamboozle you with figures,
0:33:39 > 0:33:43but if you've done a lot of research and you know your stuff,
0:33:43 > 0:33:46and if you don't understand what they're saying, then it's fine to think,
0:33:46 > 0:33:49"If I've spent a day researching this and I'm still confused by this,"
0:33:49 > 0:33:51then no-one at home has got a chance,
0:33:51 > 0:33:54because they've got other priorities in their life other than spending a
0:33:54 > 0:33:56day researching what a politician has to say.
0:33:56 > 0:33:59So, I do feel like I have got a bit of that, yeah.
0:33:59 > 0:34:03Politicians shouldn't expect people to spend hours and hours and hours
0:34:03 > 0:34:04studying them to understand them.
0:34:04 > 0:34:06It's their job to be clear to us.
0:34:08 > 0:34:13Watching TV over our cereal in the morning is a relatively new idea.
0:34:13 > 0:34:17When Breakfast Time launched on the BBC in 1983 with Selina Scott and
0:34:17 > 0:34:21Frank Bough, it made TV history.
0:34:21 > 0:34:25Broadcasting on 17 January, two weeks before ITV's new programme, TV-am.
0:34:28 > 0:34:30It was ground-breaking in its informal style.
0:34:30 > 0:34:32There were red sofas,
0:34:32 > 0:34:36steaming coffee cups and fun features like Russell Grant's astrology,
0:34:36 > 0:34:39as well as keep fit with the Green Goddess, Diana Moran
0:34:41 > 0:34:46Meanwhile, over on ITV, a relatively unknown Anne Diamond
0:34:46 > 0:34:48was partnered with Nick Owen to revive
0:34:48 > 0:34:51TV-am's flagging viewing figures.
0:34:51 > 0:34:55An instant hit, Anne and Nick proved to be a winning formula,
0:34:55 > 0:34:57with just a little help from Roland Rat.
0:34:57 > 0:35:00Yeah, rat fans!
0:35:00 > 0:35:04It was a partnership so successful that Anne and Nick were poached
0:35:04 > 0:35:06by the BBC in 1992.
0:35:15 > 0:35:18So, Kate - how did you start in television?
0:35:18 > 0:35:21How did I start in television? Well, I...
0:35:21 > 0:35:22- Look.- Ooh, hello!
0:35:24 > 0:35:27How old would you have been then?
0:35:27 > 0:35:29I had lot of hair.
0:35:29 > 0:35:33Um... I was, I think, about 28 then.
0:35:33 > 0:35:37- Oh, really?- When I first left college, I was desperate to be a journalist,
0:35:37 > 0:35:41but they didn't have the courses like they do now.
0:35:41 > 0:35:44I couldn't really afford to pay myself to go on a course.
0:35:44 > 0:35:46So, I was working doing all sorts of things,
0:35:46 > 0:35:51including working for a law firm and a station opened up called Fox FM
0:35:51 > 0:35:56in Oxford and I went along and volunteered on Saturdays and Sundays to work
0:35:56 > 0:36:00for them for free. And then I managed to get a job working for
0:36:00 > 0:36:03Radio Oxford as a travel person.
0:36:03 > 0:36:07I then worked my way from there and ITV News in those days had a scheme,
0:36:07 > 0:36:11where they trained two people a year.
0:36:11 > 0:36:14And then, I went to train with them and I went to Central News and then Meridian.
0:36:14 > 0:36:16And you then moved from there to GMTV?
0:36:16 > 0:36:22So... No, then I was working for Meridian and a brand-new idea, 24-hour news,
0:36:22 > 0:36:26came along. BBC News 24, as it was called then,
0:36:26 > 0:36:30launched, and I was there as one of the launch presenters.
0:36:30 > 0:36:34It was quite rocky in those days.
0:36:34 > 0:36:38It was the early stages of robotics and automation and cameras used to
0:36:38 > 0:36:42freeze and there was no people, there were no camera people around,
0:36:42 > 0:36:47so you just have to sort of lean into shot and just slide along and carry
0:36:47 > 0:36:52on reading. It wasn't good. Things went horribly wrong a lot but it was
0:36:52 > 0:36:53a brilliant training ground.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56And then, I went to Sky News.
0:36:56 > 0:36:58How did you then move on to GMTV?
0:36:58 > 0:37:01GMTV... Eamonn Holmes and Fiona Phillips, brilliant presenters,
0:37:01 > 0:37:03decided they wanted a shorter week.
0:37:03 > 0:37:07Why wouldn't you? So luckily, I started presenting on Fridays,
0:37:07 > 0:37:10so they could nip off early for the weekend and it just went from there.
0:37:10 > 0:37:13Ah. Well, we've got a clip now,
0:37:13 > 0:37:15of your first day at GMTV.
0:37:15 > 0:37:18Oh, my God! This is going to be terrible.
0:37:18 > 0:37:20I don't think I've watched this back.
0:37:20 > 0:37:23I think I'd have been too scared to watch it back at the time.
0:37:23 > 0:37:29- Kate Garraway, who's a new face to our...- Hello!- ..GMTV happy family.
0:37:29 > 0:37:30'I was really nervous.'
0:37:30 > 0:37:33- It's good to be here.- You won't be, by the end of the week.
0:37:33 > 0:37:36Bless me. So young, so young.
0:37:36 > 0:37:38So sweet, so innocent.
0:37:38 > 0:37:39..On the programme this morning?
0:37:39 > 0:37:43Yeah, 5,000 children need adopting in this country right now.
0:37:43 > 0:37:46Find out how you might be able to help, in 15 minutes.
0:37:46 > 0:37:49Following in the footsteps of Anne Diamond,
0:37:49 > 0:37:52Kate joined GMTV in 2000 with her first show alongside the established
0:37:52 > 0:37:55breakfast legend Eamonn Holmes.
0:37:55 > 0:37:59..only to be attacked by the very people they are trying to help.
0:37:59 > 0:38:02- A report on that.- 'What was it like, working with Eamonn?'
0:38:02 > 0:38:03He is extraordinary, Eamonn Holmes.
0:38:03 > 0:38:07- Oh, he is.- He's a great person to sit alongside,
0:38:07 > 0:38:09cos he teaches you everything you need to know.
0:38:09 > 0:38:14What is the art of being a great interviewer/journalist?
0:38:14 > 0:38:17I think, just listen what people have to say,
0:38:17 > 0:38:20because I think everyone's got a great story to tell.
0:38:20 > 0:38:22That's enough about that, let me carry on.
0:38:22 > 0:38:24No, I'm joking. LAUGHTER
0:38:24 > 0:38:26No, I think it is, it's imperative, isn't it?
0:38:26 > 0:38:28It is, isn't it? It's actually listening,
0:38:28 > 0:38:31because so many people just ask a question and when the person has
0:38:31 > 0:38:34answered, just ask another question anything, hang on a minute,
0:38:34 > 0:38:36you weren't listening to word they said.
0:38:36 > 0:38:38- That's what I find, yeah. - It is tough.
0:38:38 > 0:38:41It's a lot tougher than you think, ladies and gentlemen, sitting here,
0:38:41 > 0:38:44doing interviews. Let me tell you. I make it look easy!
0:38:44 > 0:38:48Cos he's brilliant! Your brilliant, aren't you?
0:38:48 > 0:38:52Thank you very much. God bless you. I want to talk about Strictly now.
0:38:52 > 0:38:54- Ooh.- Your experience on Strictly.
0:38:54 > 0:38:56Do I get an ooh and an aww?
0:38:56 > 0:38:59I was extraordinary, wasn't I?
0:38:59 > 0:39:01- It was 2007. - It was 2007.
0:39:01 > 0:39:05Now, when they said, "Would you like to go on Strictly Come Dancing," I said,
0:39:05 > 0:39:08"Absolutely. I'm going to be brilliant at this.
0:39:08 > 0:39:11"I dance like a storm at a wedding and obviously,
0:39:11 > 0:39:13"it's going to be fun to wear the outfits."
0:39:13 > 0:39:15I had no idea - A, how rubbish I was going to be
0:39:15 > 0:39:18and B, just how hard it is.
0:39:18 > 0:39:22- Yeah.- I was terrible. - Do you mean learning the dancing?
0:39:22 > 0:39:25- Is that what you found difficult? Or remembering the steps?- Oh, the whole thing.
0:39:25 > 0:39:28I mean, it's nothing to do with...
0:39:28 > 0:39:29I think that's what people don't know.
0:39:29 > 0:39:31You think, "Oh, I can dance a bit at a wedding."
0:39:31 > 0:39:34It's about as much like that is going for a walk around the block is
0:39:34 > 0:39:37climbing Everest. It's a sport so I was just in total shock.
0:39:37 > 0:39:40But it's brilliant fun, brilliant fun -
0:39:40 > 0:39:42and I was paired up with the lovely Anton Du Beke,
0:39:42 > 0:39:44who just made everything so much fun.
0:39:44 > 0:39:46It was a really good time, yeah.
0:39:46 > 0:39:49I was rubbish, though. Please don't show anything.
0:39:49 > 0:39:50LAUGHTER
0:39:50 > 0:39:52My children might be watching.
0:39:52 > 0:39:54I want them to still have the illusion I was quite good.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56- They've never seen it.- Have they never seen it?
0:39:56 > 0:39:59- You've never shown it to them?- No, because they were so little.
0:39:59 > 0:40:02- You haven't saved any on tape? - No, Darcy is very proud and says,
0:40:02 > 0:40:05"Oh, my mum was on Strictly. She was amazing." So one day, I'm going to have to
0:40:05 > 0:40:08- break the news to them.- Burst their bubble.- It was very embarrassing.
0:40:08 > 0:40:11- You'd be brilliant. Don't you think he'd be good?- CROWD:- Yes!
0:40:11 > 0:40:14You think so, ladies and gentlemen? HE HUMS STRICTLY THEME
0:40:14 > 0:40:17- See? You see? - Hey!- You see?
0:40:17 > 0:40:20- Already - seven!- Yeah(!)
0:40:25 > 0:40:27So, what do you watch these days on TV?
0:40:27 > 0:40:30I'm still a news addict.
0:40:30 > 0:40:33I still love my rolling news,
0:40:33 > 0:40:36I still always have a bit of rolling news on the TV.
0:40:36 > 0:40:41- I love Modern Family. Do you watch Modern Family?- Yeah.- Very funny, isn't it?- Very good.
0:40:41 > 0:40:43I've been getting into The Man In The High Castle.
0:40:43 > 0:40:45- Have you seen that?- No, I haven't, no.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48It's brilliant. It's if Germany won the war.
0:40:48 > 0:40:49That's right, yeah.
0:40:49 > 0:40:52That's good, you should try that one.
0:40:52 > 0:40:56I love all that and big dramas - I love all the big American dramas.
0:40:56 > 0:40:58Yeah, wonderful.
0:40:58 > 0:41:01- I love telly.- Would you have liked to have been an actress?
0:41:01 > 0:41:04An actress...? That's a good question.
0:41:04 > 0:41:07I don't know. I...
0:41:07 > 0:41:11I don't think I would have been a very good actress, actually.
0:41:11 > 0:41:17But don't you think being a journalist and being an interviewer
0:41:17 > 0:41:20requires an amount of acting?
0:41:20 > 0:41:22Well, I don't know really.
0:41:22 > 0:41:25Does it? Or does is it actually demand the opposite -
0:41:25 > 0:41:28that you just stay yourself and concentrate on being yourself in chaos?
0:41:28 > 0:41:31I don't know. I'm not sure that it is the same, acting.
0:41:31 > 0:41:34Is it? Do you think it is? You're a performer though, aren't you?
0:41:34 > 0:41:36I'm an entertainer, yeah.
0:41:36 > 0:41:39- That's my job.- So, you're an entertainer, you're a performer.
0:41:39 > 0:41:41You've got that in you, whereas I...
0:41:41 > 0:41:43- But I need a crowd.- Do you? - I need an audience.
0:41:43 > 0:41:44LAUGHTER
0:41:44 > 0:41:46I don't know about this lot, but, yeah.
0:41:46 > 0:41:49- Normally, yeah.- You like a crowd?
0:41:49 > 0:41:53Yeah, that's what I play off and that's what I've always enjoyed.
0:41:53 > 0:41:57I've done films and I didn't like it.
0:41:57 > 0:42:02- It felt... You relied too much on the director.- Right.
0:42:02 > 0:42:06You like a live theatre situation?
0:42:06 > 0:42:08What I like is that you are now interviewing me.
0:42:08 > 0:42:10LAUGHTER
0:42:10 > 0:42:13You see? This is my show and on my show...
0:42:13 > 0:42:16"You give the answers, Garraway!"
0:42:16 > 0:42:18Yes, on my show,
0:42:18 > 0:42:22we let our guest choose the theme tune for us to play out on.
0:42:22 > 0:42:24OK. Oh...
0:42:24 > 0:42:29- We'd love you to pick something. - So many theme tunes. I think it's going to have to be Nationwide,
0:42:29 > 0:42:32just because that was such a big show when I was little, that I think
0:42:32 > 0:42:37decided what I ended up doing for a living and probably the sort of person
0:42:37 > 0:42:40I am, actually. So yeah, it's got to be Nationwide, I think.
0:42:40 > 0:42:44Well, the sort of person you are is very beautiful, very glamorous and very dear.
0:42:44 > 0:42:48- Oh, bless you.- And thank you very much for being on.
0:42:48 > 0:42:52- Thank you. So nice to see you.- And you too. So, my thanks to Kate and my
0:42:52 > 0:42:54thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me.
0:42:54 > 0:42:57- We'll see you next time. Bye-bye. - Thank you.
0:42:57 > 0:42:59MUSIC: NATIONWIDE THEME