:00:08. > :00:18.Exciting Times. Spoons At The Ready. It Is Wednesday The 23rd Of March.
:00:19. > :00:23.And In 90 Minutes, Tony Rudd Is Back. We Have Got last year's
:00:24. > :00:40.finalists with us. Hello and welcome to the programme.
:00:41. > :00:48.Nobody does that better than you. Tonight, Jason Mohammad tells us
:00:49. > :00:54.about Crimewatch. Susan Calman visits somebody who makes sound
:00:55. > :00:58.effects for the telly. Plus, we will have some classic TV moments on
:00:59. > :01:04.today's date, nearly 30 years ago, in Windback Wednesday. And the
:01:05. > :01:10.knives, forks and spoons will be out as we chat to last year's Tony Rudd
:01:11. > :01:16.finalists. First, we are one step closer to seeing live coverage on
:01:17. > :01:20.our screens, by all accounts, from the courts. It will be part of a
:01:21. > :01:25.pilot scheme which is expect to start within weeks. As it stands,
:01:26. > :01:28.Crown Court are open to the public but filming is strictly prohibited.
:01:29. > :01:33.I am sure I will be rushing off to watch it. And you will not be able
:01:34. > :01:42.to sneak in without your fans following you now! In other news, it
:01:43. > :01:46.has been announced that new Robot Wars host Dara Brean is presenting a
:01:47. > :01:53.new show all about computer games. It will cover 40 years of classic
:01:54. > :02:02.games, and as well as the latest gaming technology... Thank you for
:02:03. > :02:09.that! I was more Spectrum ZX! Bless you! On that embarrassing note,
:02:10. > :02:14.let's meet our first guest. Yes, Tony Rudd is back on our television
:02:15. > :02:21.tonight, with 40 new amateur cooks aiming for victory. Joining us now,
:02:22. > :02:26.Emma Spitzer and Tony Rudd. But first, a little taste of the new
:02:27. > :02:31.series. MasterChef is back. Searching for
:02:32. > :02:38.the countries best amateur cook. How long does this normally take? Until
:02:39. > :02:42.it is cooked! Two spoons, please. Each week, ten new contestants
:02:43. > :02:47.battle for a place in Friday's quarterfinal. I think it is
:02:48. > :02:54.magnificent. Only the strongest will make it through to the final
:02:55. > :03:04.challenges. Oh! I love that! Please welcome Emma Spitzer and Tony Rudd!
:03:05. > :03:10.First of, do you have your own detective show on the telly?! With
:03:11. > :03:13.those names! Tonight, the tables are turned, you get to judge the food
:03:14. > :03:18.instead of being judged. How was that? I prefer eating to cooking,
:03:19. > :03:22.definitely. So much nicer being on the other side of the fence. Every
:03:23. > :03:28.time we went in, we did not know what was going to happen anyway on
:03:29. > :03:30.the show. So when we went into taste other people's, the first question
:03:31. > :03:36.was, I'll be cooking today? It is nice not to. You really feel for
:03:37. > :03:41.them. It must be nice to be back, to see everybody. Yes, I always wanted
:03:42. > :03:46.to go back to the studio without the pressure. It was really exciting to
:03:47. > :03:51.be back there. The main kitchen, is it a fully functioning kitchen only
:03:52. > :03:55.it is, but it is a studio. Everything moves around. Every day
:03:56. > :03:59.you walk in, it is in a different format. If you are at home and you
:04:00. > :04:02.suddenly realise you need a colander, you open up your cupboard
:04:03. > :04:07.and it is there. But when you are in the studio, if there is something
:04:08. > :04:11.you have not got, somebody has got to run off and get it for you, which
:04:12. > :04:17.adds to the pressure. And there is a special table? The condiment Island,
:04:18. > :04:25.yes. Sounds lovely, this time of year! What will you wear?! Tell us,
:04:26. > :04:30.so, with the filming, it looks like it is really intense. How do you fit
:04:31. > :04:34.it into your normal lives? You don't. Everything else gets put to
:04:35. > :04:39.the side. It is full on. You rarely sleep. You are not really eating
:04:40. > :04:46.other than what you are cooking. It takes over, absolutely, your life.
:04:47. > :04:52.Where your families just constantly eating whatever you were cooking?
:04:53. > :04:55.Yes. I think I worked out that I cooked about 17 lamb racks in
:04:56. > :05:01.preparation for my first one. That is almost a field! At the end of it,
:05:02. > :05:07.no more lamb, please! Tell us some secrets about MasterChef that we
:05:08. > :05:13.might not know. We always get asked two questions. We do not want the
:05:14. > :05:18.answers to those! Everybody asks, is it cold when you are tasting it?
:05:19. > :05:23.Because it is a TV show, and we have got the lovely voice-over, the food
:05:24. > :05:29.does go cold. But the nice thing is, they walk around the kitchen with a
:05:30. > :05:32.spoon, they are tasting out of your saucepans, they know what it is like
:05:33. > :05:35.when it is hot. And when they bring the food into us, when we are
:05:36. > :05:41.judging, who brings in the third plate? And it is a runner. Everybody
:05:42. > :05:52.is always fascinated, who brings in that third plate. Does Gregg finish
:05:53. > :05:56.all the puddings? What happens with the ice cream, I imagine it is
:05:57. > :06:01.melted by the time they get to it? It is in the freezer and they get it
:06:02. > :06:07.out right at the end. You have to keep an eye on the sound crew -
:06:08. > :06:09.because they will have it. You are all supporting each other on the
:06:10. > :06:14.show, but when you are their cooking and you can smell burning from
:06:15. > :06:19.someone else, admit it, you must be a bit... Do you know what, you are
:06:20. > :06:23.not. It is the least like a competition. You are only focusing
:06:24. > :06:27.on what you are doing. You have not got time to look around at everybody
:06:28. > :06:33.else. You are saying that, he is going...! In reality, you want the
:06:34. > :06:36.other person that you are cooking with to do well, and the worst
:06:37. > :06:40.person on the day to go home. When someone has a disaster, your heart
:06:41. > :06:45.goes out to them because it could easily be you as well. Talking of
:06:46. > :06:52.which, we found your disaster. Which is great, as I think it is Gregg who
:06:53. > :07:03.says, it looks great! Emma, that is lovely. Thank you. Love the colours.
:07:04. > :07:09.Oh, no! What went through your mind?! Where is the nearest cloth?!
:07:10. > :07:14.I kind of felt it happening. I knew it was going to happensomething in
:07:15. > :07:18.me just said, those are going to well, something is going to happen.
:07:19. > :07:25.One wipe of the cloth, it was gone. That's why you are a professional.
:07:26. > :07:27.The first winner back in 2005 of MasterChef went on to open a
:07:28. > :07:31.successful chain of Mexican restaurants. And there have been ten
:07:32. > :07:36.other winners. Let's have a look at the moment which changed their lives
:07:37. > :07:49.for ever. Our winner is Peter. Stephen. James. Mata. True. Tim.
:07:50. > :08:09.Natalie. Simon. Over the years, John Torode's town
:08:10. > :08:16.has got even deeper, and his hair! He is more showbiz! There is a
:08:17. > :08:21.79-year-old called Joe for this series, is that right? Apparently
:08:22. > :08:26.so. Yes, we do not know much. It is good, because 79-year-olds just used
:08:27. > :08:32.to walk around going, I am 79 you know! Good luck to Joe! Initial
:08:33. > :08:35.series, it was very much all about home cooking. We had chicken rapped
:08:36. > :08:43.in pancetta and things like that. Nowadays it is phones and purees
:08:44. > :08:49.and... Stuff on a big white plate. Yes, splats. When you got home, did
:08:50. > :08:52.you just give your kids beans on toast for a month afterwards? Yes,
:08:53. > :08:59.fish fingers were my saviour definitely. Are you going to be nice
:09:00. > :09:03.judges this evening? We tried to be but there were one or two disasters
:09:04. > :09:08.in the show. And it is hard, because you want to be positive. Yes, you
:09:09. > :09:12.want to be fair, you want to judge the food, but you feel for them.
:09:13. > :09:21.That is back tonight, tomorrow night and Friday night as well, eight
:09:22. > :09:27.o'clock on BBC One. Now, I know that Aled and I make this show look
:09:28. > :09:30.completely effortless, but believe it or not, there is a team of
:09:31. > :09:33.professionals behind-the-scenes, helping to bring you this TV magic
:09:34. > :09:42.that you see now. Isn't there, crew?! Yes! Susan Calman has been to
:09:43. > :09:47.meet one of those professionals, a Foley artist. I don't know about
:09:48. > :09:52.you, but I never leave the house without a stick of celery and some
:09:53. > :09:59.boiled pasta. ,, because here I am in Essex to visit the professionals.
:10:00. > :10:09.I am told these will come in very useful. Is this all there is? More
:10:10. > :10:13.carbs for lunch! Foley goes back to 1927. Microphones at the time
:10:14. > :10:20.struggled to record anything but dialogue. Jack Foley came in
:10:21. > :10:25.afterwards to record footsteps. The sounds of the props, the actors'
:10:26. > :10:31.movements, and added them to the final film. 90 years later, and the
:10:32. > :10:34.art of Foley is still going strong. Barnaby is responsible for creating
:10:35. > :10:40.sound effects on loads of TV shows - like this.
:10:41. > :10:54.WHY DO WE STILL NEED Foley artists in this day and age?
:10:55. > :11:02.We are adding the gloss and the detail to the show. Do collect Jacob
:11:03. > :11:07.before the child dies... What are some of the most challenging things
:11:08. > :11:15.you have had to create? The really hard thing is the footsteps. Good
:11:16. > :11:20.morning, Mrs Crawley. I did not know you were here. I have never been in
:11:21. > :11:25.so much pain in my life, Barnaby. You are walking on the spot, but
:11:26. > :11:30.with a bit of movement. You just sound like you are carrying a really
:11:31. > :11:35.heavy object. Steady! This is what we use for woodland undergrowth... I
:11:36. > :11:42.am in a forest! This is Downton Abbey. One of the oldest tricks in
:11:43. > :11:47.the book, cornflour, to create the sound of slow. And dishwasher salt.
:11:48. > :12:02.Sounds like Christmas! To recreate horses. An old belt. I understand,
:12:03. > :12:06.you kiss your hand quite a lot? If people on screen are kissing, we
:12:07. > :12:11.generally need to cover that. You generally get a bit of nasal work in
:12:12. > :12:20.there as well. I think I have got it! Did you bring those things? Of
:12:21. > :12:31.course I did! Fantastic. Pasta is great for making squelching noises.
:12:32. > :12:40.And then, if you want to break some bones... Can I have a go at writing
:12:41. > :12:46.some actual sounds on some real footage? Yes, I have got a couple of
:12:47. > :12:54.clips up my sleeve. This is simply a pail of laundry? It is a couple of
:12:55. > :13:07.elephants floundering around in a watering hole. We have a microwave,
:13:08. > :13:14.a car door, and a heater. It is exciting. It is, yes. Can you bring
:13:15. > :13:28.that suitcase over? And the bit of plastic? I can do this...
:13:29. > :13:33.Nailed it. Can I trust you not to make any funny noises as I walk
:13:34. > :14:01.away? You would be Foley-ish to carry on.
:14:02. > :14:07.He nearly did a joke! I have been working on that all day. Are you
:14:08. > :14:16.going to dance with me this week? No, I will leave that to you. It is
:14:17. > :14:22.time for Windback Wednesday! Today, we are winding back the clock to
:14:23. > :14:32.this very date 28 years ago, back to Wednesday the 23rd of March 1988. On
:14:33. > :14:38.this day, Kylie Minogue was at number one for the first time. I was
:14:39. > :14:43.17 with a face full of spots and I had already released many albums
:14:44. > :14:51.worldwide. I was 14 and wearing a regrettable perm. You would have
:14:52. > :14:56.enjoyed the long-running game show Going For Gold on that date. I loved
:14:57. > :15:13.Let's welcome your host, Henry Kelly.
:15:14. > :15:25.APPLAUSE Thank you very much.
:15:26. > :15:36.The greatest game show ever, it is up there. I like the thing. He
:15:37. > :15:41.hosted it for over 700 episodes. If you enjoyed the theme tune it might
:15:42. > :15:48.be because it was written by an Oscar-winning composer who also
:15:49. > :15:51.scored The Lion King. All the contestants were from different
:15:52. > :15:59.European countries and they had four rounds. This is where they walk off.
:16:00. > :16:04.Denmark is. This is the second round where Henry Kelly used to say, who
:16:05. > :16:10.am I? There used to say, Henry Kelly. There is Peter, I liked him.
:16:11. > :16:18.This was round three. He looks very serious. It looks like a job
:16:19. > :16:24.interview. I loved the head to head. I love Peter, I am slightly absurd
:16:25. > :16:30.comic he looks like a baddie. I loved Henry with his tiny question
:16:31. > :16:38.cards as well. Is that because of a great paper shortage in 1988? It is
:16:39. > :16:55.because he has big hands. Later on at 7:35pm there is The Clothes Show.
:16:56. > :17:03.Skateboard moment. That is you arriving at work. It ran from 1986
:17:04. > :17:09.until 2000 and was hosted by Selina Scott, Jeff Banks, but we all know
:17:10. > :17:17.Caryn Franklin was the true queen of the show. If it was hot right now,
:17:18. > :17:22.it was on The Clothes Show. Here is Jeff Banks to explain. This may look
:17:23. > :17:28.like an ordinary house in an ordinary street, but something very
:17:29. > :17:35.strange is going on here. This is where the machinists are. Don't tell
:17:36. > :17:45.me they are called Bill and Ben! I don't know. Hello, girls. How many
:17:46. > :17:54.garments a week do you do? It depends, some weeks it is 60 and
:17:55. > :17:59.other weeks it is 30. Hello, there is not enough highly flammable peach
:18:00. > :18:02.polyester in the shops. I love the 80s, you could lock three women in
:18:03. > :18:12.your shed to so with out questions asked. The TV show was so popular
:18:13. > :18:17.and I used to go every year to the Birmingham NEC with my mother. I
:18:18. > :18:25.always want to be spotted and be a top model. Did it happen? No.
:18:26. > :18:32.Straight after that at eight o'clock it was Dallas. Here is a clip from
:18:33. > :18:38.this date 28 years ago. Are you telling me she works for you? She
:18:39. > :18:46.works for me? That is what you are saying. No, I am not. That is what
:18:47. > :18:59.you are saying. I just want to help you. What are you doing?
:19:00. > :19:08.More feuds than Celebrity Big Brother. You saw Larry Hagman and
:19:09. > :19:14.Patrick Duffy slugging it out. It won four Emmy awards and gave us the
:19:15. > :19:24.best cliffhanger of all time, who shot JR? Don't tell me. It was the
:19:25. > :19:28.sister. After Dallas there was Points Of View and the news and then
:19:29. > :19:35.it was off to bed to dream about brass. It was probably only me! Next
:19:36. > :19:43.Wednesday we will wind back again to another date in TV history. Do we
:19:44. > :19:47.have to? Jason Mohammad presents all kinds of programmes, rugby,
:19:48. > :19:48.athletics, snooker, but he recently joined Crimewatch and he is here to
:19:49. > :20:04.tell us all about it. Please welcome Jason Mohammad.
:20:05. > :20:10.Crimewatch has been going for 30 years and it is a TV institution. It
:20:11. > :20:16.is amazing. How did it feel when you join? It was a weird moment because
:20:17. > :20:20.it is made in Cardiff and I do a radio show on radio Wales and I had
:20:21. > :20:26.a phone call from the editors saying, I need somebody to read the
:20:27. > :20:30.news on Crimewatch. I started off in the newsroom, and I have never
:20:31. > :20:39.really lost that news edge and interest in crime. I said I would
:20:40. > :20:48.love to. Are you about next week, will you pop down? It was a massive.
:20:49. > :20:53.It makes a difference. I cannot remember another TV programme when
:20:54. > :20:57.you are on edge and we are talking about serious crimes. Sometimes you
:20:58. > :21:01.are standing in front of a camera and you may be doing a link and you
:21:02. > :21:05.can hear the detectives behind you and they are getting calls from the
:21:06. > :21:09.member of the public who have just seen a reconstruction and they are
:21:10. > :21:17.dialling in at that moment. They are real detectives. Loads of people ask
:21:18. > :21:23.the same question. They say when those people are on television, I
:21:24. > :21:28.had a detectives? Is it quite nerve wracking being beside one of those
:21:29. > :21:36.roles Royce 's? You haven't got a card disk. No, what is strange about
:21:37. > :21:40.this is, see where Sophie is standing, I have to make sure I do
:21:41. > :21:45.not walk behind her because it is a circular studio. You are given
:21:46. > :21:48.positions and they are called offices and you have to make sure
:21:49. > :21:52.that when she is doing her reading to the camera, or maybe doing an
:21:53. > :21:58.interview, you do not walk behind her. With a cup of tea. 4000 cases
:21:59. > :22:04.have been solved, who decides what goes on? I do not get involved in
:22:05. > :22:08.that, it it is the production team and the editor. They talk to all the
:22:09. > :22:13.detectives around the country and they work on maybe I'm solved crimes
:22:14. > :22:21.or ones that have fallen out of the public domain. They almost rectify
:22:22. > :22:25.what they have known beforehand. Cold cases. They really rely on the
:22:26. > :22:29.public. Without the public Crimewatch would not work.
:22:30. > :22:35.Absolutely and when we do the update show that is the really important
:22:36. > :22:38.part of the show. That is where I may be doing an interview with a
:22:39. > :22:41.superintendent leader and investigation and at the start of
:22:42. > :22:45.the night they have nothing and by the end of the evening they are
:22:46. > :22:49.talking about following things up the next morning. I have been
:22:50. > :22:54.talking to a police officer and he has told me, they are finding that
:22:55. > :23:00.person that very evening. Reconstructions have changed over
:23:01. > :23:03.the years. The reconstruction as much an amazing. There was a
:23:04. > :23:08.stabbing recently and I was sitting in the edit suite and I had tears
:23:09. > :23:13.streaming down my face, I was heartbroken. The production team
:23:14. > :23:18.talk to the families and these are families who have been devastated.
:23:19. > :23:23.You have got to get that across. You almost have to detach yourself from
:23:24. > :23:28.what you have broadcast. The idea is to solve the crime. When I was
:23:29. > :23:34.watching it when I was little I was obsessed by Aladdin's cave. You
:23:35. > :23:41.would say all sorts of golden goblets. That is how the show has
:23:42. > :23:47.changed. It is an hour-long and we get through an awful lot. Somebody
:23:48. > :23:53.next couple stuffed ducks. There is some fine china. Away from the
:23:54. > :24:00.camera you do so much, so much sport. Is football the main dog?
:24:01. > :24:04.That is my main job, my Saturday afternoon job went all the scores
:24:05. > :24:09.come in. As a football fan it is a dream job. And your appearances on
:24:10. > :24:16.Doctor who must have got you lots of fans. That is really strange. That
:24:17. > :24:20.suits doesn't fit, it is an awful suit. That was when Russell T Davies
:24:21. > :24:25.was writing the scripts and I was hosting a children in need dinner
:24:26. > :24:31.for Doctor Who. I basically said if Russell T Davies is looking for a
:24:32. > :24:35.new Doctor, I will happily do it. I sat back on the dinner table and
:24:36. > :24:40.David Tennant was there with Billie Piper and the head of drama and he
:24:41. > :24:46.said, do you want to be Doctor Who? This is why he is clever because
:24:47. > :24:54.Doctor Who is done in Cardiff. Has there been a Welsh Doctor Who yet?
:24:55. > :24:59.No, there has not. I became the cameo newsreader. I heard you would
:25:00. > :25:07.not mind doing celebrity Masterchef in the future. I like cooking at
:25:08. > :25:13.home. What is your top this? I make a phenomenal curry. It is not just
:25:14. > :25:27.good, it is phenomenal. Thank you for coming in. Jason Mohammad. What?
:25:28. > :25:32.You know what I am talking about. You cannot say that on national
:25:33. > :25:36.television. It is time for the biggest decision of the day. What
:25:37. > :25:59.are we watching tonight? Honestly. Sorry. Tonight on Channel
:26:00. > :26:03.4... I was dismounting. It is like some kind of superhero whose special
:26:04. > :26:10.power is pioneering prosthetics and he saves the lives of bully pets. I
:26:11. > :26:20.love the show. Tonight it is or death situation for a great Dane
:26:21. > :26:29.called Mr Jones. Mr Jones. He has got four in his neck that are
:26:30. > :26:33.squashed. It is a big deal. The bottom line is we will lose him if
:26:34. > :26:40.we do not do anything. It is make or break time. What is about to happen
:26:41. > :26:44.in the next three hours means he will literally get out of pain and
:26:45. > :26:50.live along and happy life, or will die. We are rooting for you. The
:26:51. > :26:56.other pets featured include a three legged cat with a hip problem and a
:26:57. > :27:06.dog who needs help with his elbows. Dogs have Albers. They don't, they
:27:07. > :27:15.have got four legs. And they have funny bones. Also tonight on BBC Two
:27:16. > :27:19.at nine o'clock is the brand new series which follows stories of job
:27:20. > :27:26.seekers who have two rets or autism and who try to prove that it should
:27:27. > :27:30.make them employable. In the world where the workplace is
:27:31. > :27:36.set up for the non-it has been impossible for them to succeed at
:27:37. > :27:40.work until now. Businesses are starting to realise that diverse
:27:41. > :27:45.conditions like autism and two rets can bring creativity, innovation and
:27:46. > :27:48.brilliance into the workplace. With the help of leading scientists they
:27:49. > :27:53.were uncovered their unique abilities. The numbers kept coming
:27:54. > :27:59.in the right order. How is she doing that? I did not see that coming.
:28:00. > :28:04.That is impressive. It is such an inspiring programme. It is a 3-part
:28:05. > :28:09.series. In that clip Brett has autism, but he is world class at
:28:10. > :28:14.solving computer problems and after eight years out of work he gets the
:28:15. > :28:17.recognition he deserves. It is brilliant. It is tug at the
:28:18. > :28:22.heartstrings. It is on at nine o'clock. That is
:28:23. > :28:26.all we have got time for tonight. We will be back tomorrow for a
:28:27. > :28:31.springtime bonanza with Julia Bradbury who will be coming in doors
:28:32. > :28:40.for five minutes. We have also got Carol Klein from Gardeners' World.
:28:41. > :28:49.Jason, take it away, the theme June. I love this. Phenomenal. Thank you
:28:50. > :29:00.to all our guests. Tell us what you think will stop. And remember... Be
:29:01. > :29:01.careful out there. Oh, hello, Beth.
:29:02. > :29:08.Hi, Christine! Hi, Cathy.
:29:09. > :29:10.Hi, Eric!