Oscar Winners

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0:00:01 > 0:00:03'It was a show that went out three nights a week...live...'

0:00:03 > 0:00:05Mr Wogan, you're on.

0:00:05 > 0:00:09'..with a live audience, and everyone who was anyone dropping in.

0:00:09 > 0:00:12'The great and the good, the bad and the ugly.

0:00:12 > 0:00:14'They called it Wogan.

0:00:14 > 0:00:15'I never knew why. So,

0:00:15 > 0:00:17'if you're sitting comfortably,

0:00:17 > 0:00:20'I'll show you something I made earlier.'

0:00:20 > 0:00:23God knows what they will make of us in 25 years' time.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25THEME MUSIC PLAYS

0:00:35 > 0:00:39Welcome to a show which is peopled by a very select group indeed,

0:00:39 > 0:00:42which probably lets me out.

0:00:42 > 0:00:45Oscar winners, the creme de la creme of the acting world,

0:00:45 > 0:00:48the proud owners of the top trophy in Tinseltown - I have all

0:00:48 > 0:00:49the phrases, you know,

0:00:49 > 0:00:51which today means Audrey Hepburn,

0:00:51 > 0:00:52Anne Bancroft,

0:00:52 > 0:00:54Gregory Peck,

0:00:54 > 0:00:57Gene Hackman, Sher and James Stewart.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00But our first Oscar winner is one of cinema's

0:01:00 > 0:01:02great creative funnymen, Mel Brooks.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06He picked up the Best Screenplay Academy Award

0:01:06 > 0:01:08for The Producers and when he came on my show

0:01:08 > 0:01:11he was quick to criticise how was it produced.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14The nerve of the man!

0:01:15 > 0:01:19- You are known as the master of bad taste.- Yes, I am.

0:01:19 > 0:01:23Is this justified or are you sorry now?

0:01:23 > 0:01:26No, no, it's justified.

0:01:26 > 0:01:31I am known for my exquisitely bad taste.

0:01:31 > 0:01:34In America, people say, "Mr Brooks,

0:01:34 > 0:01:37"you are in bad taste." I say, "Up yours."

0:01:38 > 0:01:41That's how we talk. It isn't nice but...

0:01:41 > 0:01:43The entertainer, eh?

0:01:43 > 0:01:45You know, I've been watching this show from the wings.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47I'm not going to criticise it, I love it.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53The cameras seem to have some problems knowing

0:01:53 > 0:01:58when you are going to speak and when your guest is going to speak.

0:01:58 > 0:02:00So, it occurred to me, to warn them

0:02:00 > 0:02:05so that they don't come in on a second syllable or a second word,

0:02:05 > 0:02:09if you say "ba-ba" and then talk, on the "ba-ba", they will cut to you.

0:02:09 > 0:02:13If I'm going to talk, I will say "ba-ba",

0:02:13 > 0:02:15and they'll cut to me. Now, it may sound

0:02:15 > 0:02:17like some African language but

0:02:17 > 0:02:19the cameras will get it right,

0:02:19 > 0:02:22even if the audience gets it a little mish-mushed.

0:02:22 > 0:02:24It sounds very...

0:02:24 > 0:02:27Of course that's why you're a director and producer

0:02:27 > 0:02:29and I'm just a common or garden...

0:02:29 > 0:02:32Ba-ba! I'll tell you, Terry...

0:02:32 > 0:02:35LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:02:39 > 0:02:42Ba-ba! I hadn't finished.

0:02:47 > 0:02:51I like that. I didn't "ba-ba", get the hell off me.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53Wait for the "ba-ba".

0:02:54 > 0:02:57Now that you've become a Hollywood mogul yourself

0:02:57 > 0:03:00with the Brooks films, has it changed you a lot?

0:03:00 > 0:03:05You were an innocent, open-faced Jewish boy writing comedy,

0:03:05 > 0:03:08now you're a mogul and it's different, isn't it?

0:03:08 > 0:03:10I'm a mogul, it's different, yes.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13I used to be innocent...

0:03:13 > 0:03:17I am mogul, it's different... Fire them

0:03:17 > 0:03:20and hire them, and hire them and fire them.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23Hire and fire, fire and hire.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25Show me a nice...

0:03:25 > 0:03:31But I used to be innocent and wonderful and intransigent...

0:03:31 > 0:03:34The last bit was more like you. That's more like you there.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36- That's you.- Yes, this is close.

0:03:36 > 0:03:41Dr Jekyll and Mr Goldman, right? Have I got it? Yes, very.

0:03:41 > 0:03:48I don't know. To tell you the truth, I miss the innocent lad that I was.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50Where does the director in you come into it?

0:03:50 > 0:03:54Do you like bossing people around and telling them what to do?

0:03:54 > 0:03:56Well, to be perfectly honest, yes.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59- There is no fooling you.- I knew you were power-crazed...

0:03:59 > 0:04:01You're too darn bright.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04- ..the minute you walked in. Yeah. - Yeah.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07In the dressing room when they were making me up I said,

0:04:07 > 0:04:09"Why the hell did Parkinson leave?

0:04:09 > 0:04:13"I've got to work with this stupid Irishman," but...

0:04:13 > 0:04:16I said that in the dressing room as well.

0:04:18 > 0:04:23- But then I thought on it, I thought hard on it.- Steady.

0:04:24 > 0:04:26Two points.

0:04:27 > 0:04:31What I came up with was, I love your vocal ping-pong,

0:04:31 > 0:04:34I love your alacrity and quickness of mind,

0:04:34 > 0:04:37I love your wit and I love that most of you hair is your own.

0:04:40 > 0:04:44Yes! Most, yes. Success, however, has not unspoiled you.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47I'm not crazy about your tie, I can tell you.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52- I shouldn't say that on the air. - Well, you're a guest.

0:04:52 > 0:04:57Yes, it's true. Solid ties have been in for six years now, you know that?

0:04:57 > 0:04:59- And out again.- And out again.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- We're wearing something different in Britain, you know.- Underneath?

0:05:02 > 0:05:05- All over.- All over, yes.

0:05:05 > 0:05:09- I understand you are bit of a wine snob.- No, no.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12Come on, you bring your own bottle of wine to dinner.

0:05:12 > 0:05:16Yes, I drank some of the swill you had in the dressing room.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19- What's this about bringing your own bottle to dinner?- I do.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21I bring my own bottle to dinner.

0:05:21 > 0:05:25- Does this not offend your host or hostess?- Who gives a...?

0:05:26 > 0:05:31Who cares? Rather. Do you know what Jewish foreplay is?

0:05:33 > 0:05:36- Let me tell you what Jewish foreplay is. May I?- please.

0:05:37 > 0:05:3920 minutes of begging.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:05:50 > 0:05:52Terry, you are a saucy devil.

0:05:52 > 0:05:54I watched your interview with Bob Fosse,

0:05:54 > 0:05:58who was good. You were wonderful. But you did ask questions that

0:05:58 > 0:06:01were really unseemly.

0:06:01 > 0:06:05- Saucy?- Yes, saucy. You said... - You're a fine one to talk.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08Well! I'm vulgar, so I can say anything.

0:06:08 > 0:06:12But you said, "Is there still a casting couch?

0:06:12 > 0:06:14"Is it still a practice?"

0:06:14 > 0:06:16I was going to ask you that.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20- Then you said, "Do YOU use?" What could he say?- Yes.

0:06:20 > 0:06:24Well, even if he did, would he admit it?

0:06:24 > 0:06:26- He nearly did.- He nearly did.

0:06:26 > 0:06:30- What about you?- I admit it.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33I admit it.

0:06:33 > 0:06:36Look, you don't need a casting couch. With your attraction,

0:06:36 > 0:06:39you could've got the girls without it. Why use it?

0:06:39 > 0:06:41You will pay for that.

0:06:43 > 0:06:45That hasn't gone unnoticed.

0:06:46 > 0:06:47I like you, swear to God.

0:06:49 > 0:06:51Yet, you married an Italian.

0:06:51 > 0:06:55Wogan, there is little green thing on this side of your nose. Get it...

0:06:57 > 0:07:00LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:07:00 > 0:07:01It's gone now.

0:07:02 > 0:07:06Don't try and evade the issue. Ba-ba!

0:07:06 > 0:07:09- And yet you married an Italian? - Yes. I did.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13Well, she's an American, born in the United States of America,

0:07:13 > 0:07:16of Italian ancestry, Italian parentage.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18- That's easy for you to say.- Yes.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21Her mother and father were born in the US,

0:07:21 > 0:07:24but her grandparents were from good old Italy.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28- Is she taller than you? - Ba-ba. yes.

0:07:29 > 0:07:32When she wears her spiked Cuban heels,

0:07:32 > 0:07:35which I demand that she wear on Sunday nights.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39We can drive the audience insane with this kind of talk.

0:07:39 > 0:07:43All she wears is spiked Cuban heels,

0:07:43 > 0:07:45- a large feather...- Oh!

0:07:45 > 0:07:47..and an Indian bathrobe.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- Ah!- No, my wife is actually a very conservative lady.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54She is a dramatic actress and she adores me because I'm the other

0:07:54 > 0:07:56side of her life. I am merriment,

0:07:56 > 0:07:57I'm fun, I'm silly.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00When are we going to see that side of you?

0:08:08 > 0:08:11You've actually worked together. Is this the first time you've worked

0:08:11 > 0:08:14- together in your new movie?- I don't like it when you really funny.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17When you're nearly funny, I like.

0:08:17 > 0:08:22Then the audience at home says, "The Irishman thinks he's funny.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27"The Jewish... He's the one, he's funny.

0:08:27 > 0:08:30"But the other one thinks he's funny.

0:08:30 > 0:08:31"He's really funny.

0:08:31 > 0:08:36"The Irishman is nearly funny. But the Jew, he's hysterical."

0:08:36 > 0:08:40But sometimes you're really funny and it's very disappointing...

0:08:42 > 0:08:45It takes the heart out of one, I'll tell you the truth.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48Ba-ba. I'm sorry.

0:08:50 > 0:08:53Now, you heard Mel Brooks and I discussing his wife,

0:08:53 > 0:08:57the Oscar-winning actress Anne Bancroft.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59Could a couple be more different?

0:08:59 > 0:09:01Whereas Mel talked nineteen to the dozen,

0:09:01 > 0:09:04Anne made for one of my toughest encounters.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06Couldn't get a word out of her.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09She was promoting the film, 84 Charing Cross Road,

0:09:09 > 0:09:13joining Ben Elton, unfortunately for him, on the Wogan sofa.

0:09:13 > 0:09:17But she only realised the show was live once it started

0:09:17 > 0:09:19and became as nervous as Dustin Hoffman

0:09:19 > 0:09:22in The Graduate seduction scene.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24APPLAUSE

0:09:25 > 0:09:28SHE MOUTHS

0:09:31 > 0:09:33I caught you counting there.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Hold it a second.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39- Hello.- This is Ben. - Nice to meet you.- Ben Elton.

0:09:39 > 0:09:40- Nice to meet you.- Welcome.

0:09:40 > 0:09:44- Is it Benjamin?- It is Benjamin, yes, indeed. But to my friends...

0:09:44 > 0:09:46- I once knew a Benjamin. - You did.- You know another one.

0:09:46 > 0:09:48In The Graduate, Benjamin.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50- That's right.- Yes. - I didn't think you'd get that one.

0:09:50 > 0:09:54Why, do I appear slow?

0:09:54 > 0:09:57- Have I been slow all evening? - No, I've only just met you.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59LAUGHTER

0:09:59 > 0:10:02I had the pleasure of interviewing your husband, Mel Brooks,

0:10:02 > 0:10:03about four years ago.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06- And he told me that I had to talk to you.- Why?

0:10:06 > 0:10:09Because he said you do most of the stuff for him,

0:10:09 > 0:10:11you write most of the gags and all that.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14- He said you're his inspiration. - Oh, that's not true.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16- Is he your inspiration?- No.

0:10:16 > 0:10:19- Is he a help to you? - LAUGHTER

0:10:19 > 0:10:21- You don't inspire each other at all? - No.

0:10:21 > 0:10:25- We barely see each other, to tell you the truth.- Really?- Yes.

0:10:25 > 0:10:30- That's not good, is it? - Well, it is. At times, it's good.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33Now, you haven't, in fact... In 84 Charing Cross Road...

0:10:33 > 0:10:35You're a very smart man.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38..you swap letters with old Anthony Hopkins,

0:10:38 > 0:10:40and you haven't met him either, have you? You acted separately.

0:10:40 > 0:10:43You acted apart from each other. That can't have been easy.

0:10:43 > 0:10:47- He's acting here, and you're acting in America.- Yes, right.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49So how do you do that?

0:10:49 > 0:10:52What do you mean, how? He acts here, and I act there.

0:10:52 > 0:10:54But surely if you're acting with somebody,

0:10:54 > 0:10:57- you want them to respond to you, don't you?- Oh, well, yes.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00I had a little thing in my ear, and he spoke through that.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02I had recordings of him in my ear.

0:11:02 > 0:11:08Stanislavski, that's real motivation, isn't it? In your ear.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11It must be difficult to generate a character when you're, you know...

0:11:11 > 0:11:14- Well, most of my character... - Like an interview, really.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- I tell you, it's a lot easier than this.- You don't find this easy?

0:11:17 > 0:11:20No, I don't find this easy at all.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23- It's your job, Terry.- The character's based on the letters...

0:11:23 > 0:11:24LAUGHTER

0:11:24 > 0:11:27Sorry, I...

0:11:27 > 0:11:30- Carry on, the character and the letters.- Um. What was I saying?

0:11:30 > 0:11:32The character is based on the letters.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34The character is based on the letters.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38- So I have the letters in my ear, so I...- Yeah.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40You do a lot of addressing, perhaps not a lot,

0:11:40 > 0:11:44- but you do address the camera sometimes in the movie.- We do.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47- Did you find that difficult to do? - I did, that was really...

0:11:47 > 0:11:49That is difficult.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52Do you have to evolve a different technique for that,

0:11:52 > 0:11:56or work yourself up to a frenzy before you can do it?

0:11:56 > 0:11:58Do you convince yourself when you're doing it?

0:11:58 > 0:12:01Did you convince yourself when you watched the movie?

0:12:01 > 0:12:02Did you think that worked?

0:12:02 > 0:12:05Do you know, I haven't really seen the whole movie all the way through

0:12:05 > 0:12:07So I don't know.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10- Did you read the book?- That I did.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14And didn't Mel Brooks give you the book as a birthday present,

0:12:14 > 0:12:17- or an anniversary present?- Oh, no, that's a pack of lies.- Is it?

0:12:17 > 0:12:19Yes, a pack of lies.

0:12:19 > 0:12:21I'm glad we didn't have that in the research(!)

0:12:21 > 0:12:24- So it's a tissue of lies?- Yes.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27You were saying you find this kind of thing horrific?

0:12:27 > 0:12:29- This kind of thing? - Not the film, the interview.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31- No, the film was great. - The film was easy. This is hard.

0:12:31 > 0:12:36- Why do you hate this kind of thing so much? Is it me?- Probably.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38It's probably me, is it?

0:12:38 > 0:12:42- It's not the dried flowers, you don't think?- That too.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45- TERRY LAUGHS - Do you do any of this in America?

0:12:45 > 0:12:46- Do you ever do a talk show? - No.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49- Are you glad you did this one? - No.

0:12:49 > 0:12:53Some things are sent to try us.

0:12:53 > 0:12:57I need music to smooth my ruffled brow after watching that.

0:12:57 > 0:13:01Now, here's someone who bites lumps out of songs.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04The mellow bellow of Cher.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:13:07 > 0:13:09MUSICAL INTRODUCTION

0:13:14 > 0:13:19# Don't you know

0:13:19 > 0:13:23# So many things they come and go?

0:13:23 > 0:13:28# Like your words that once rang true

0:13:28 > 0:13:32# Just like the love I thought I found in you

0:13:32 > 0:13:36# And I remember the thunder

0:13:36 > 0:13:41# Talking 'bout the fire in your eyes

0:13:41 > 0:13:46# But you walked away when I needed you most

0:13:46 > 0:13:51# Now, maybe, baby, maybe, baby

0:13:51 > 0:13:54# I found someone

0:13:54 > 0:13:59# To take away the heartache

0:13:59 > 0:14:03# To take away the loneliness

0:14:03 > 0:14:09# I've been feeling since you've been gone

0:14:09 > 0:14:12# Since you've been gone

0:14:15 > 0:14:20# Dry your eyes

0:14:20 > 0:14:24# I never could bear to see you cry

0:14:24 > 0:14:28# Some day your love will shine through

0:14:28 > 0:14:33# And show you the feelings if you never really knew

0:14:33 > 0:14:37# Baby, don't you lose that thunder

0:14:37 > 0:14:42# Talking 'bout the fire in your eyes

0:14:42 > 0:14:45# You're looking at me

0:14:45 > 0:14:48# But you still don't believe

0:14:48 > 0:14:52# That maybe, baby, maybe, baby

0:14:52 > 0:14:55# I found someone

0:14:55 > 0:15:00# To take away the heartache

0:15:00 > 0:15:05# To take away the loneliness

0:15:05 > 0:15:10# I've been feeling since you've been gone

0:15:10 > 0:15:14# Since you've been gone

0:15:26 > 0:15:31# Too long on the borderline

0:15:31 > 0:15:35# Wondering if your love was really mine

0:15:35 > 0:15:39# But you left me with open eyes

0:15:39 > 0:15:44# And when I realised

0:15:44 > 0:15:49# Baby, I found someone

0:15:49 > 0:15:54# To take away the heartache

0:15:54 > 0:15:58# To take away the loneliness

0:15:58 > 0:16:04# I've been feeling since you've been gone

0:16:04 > 0:16:08# Baby, I found someone

0:16:08 > 0:16:13# To take away the heartache

0:16:13 > 0:16:17# To take away the loneliness

0:16:17 > 0:16:22# I've been feeling since you've been gone

0:16:22 > 0:16:28# Since you've been gone. #

0:16:34 > 0:16:36APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:16:40 > 0:16:45Cher, who won a Best Actress Oscar in 1988 for the film Moonstruck.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47Now, we've got Gene Hackman,

0:16:47 > 0:16:49a man not known for making many television appearances,

0:16:49 > 0:16:53and one of the cinema's best and most enduring actors.

0:16:53 > 0:16:56He came by for a chat while over here filming Superman II,

0:16:56 > 0:17:01in which he played the hero's evil arch nemesis.

0:17:01 > 0:17:03How about playing Lex Luthor in Superman,

0:17:03 > 0:17:05did you enjoy playing the baddie?

0:17:05 > 0:17:08It's great fun. I must say, it's like a licence to steal.

0:17:08 > 0:17:11Almost anything you do is going to be OK,

0:17:11 > 0:17:13because he's a flamboyant character, and deranged,

0:17:13 > 0:17:16all the things that actors love to play.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- It's the best part in the movie, really.- I think so.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21I wouldn't play Superman for anything.

0:17:21 > 0:17:23You don't envy Christopher getting into the cape?

0:17:23 > 0:17:28- He uses my body, of course! - Of course.- That's public knowledge.

0:17:28 > 0:17:31But I wouldn't want to play the part.

0:17:31 > 0:17:33Is your body your greatest asset

0:17:33 > 0:17:35- when it comes to acting? - Yes, that and my face.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37GENTLE LAUGHTER

0:17:37 > 0:17:38There's not much wrong with your face.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40Do you enjoy doing comedy parts?

0:17:40 > 0:17:43As you say, because of your face and physique,

0:17:43 > 0:17:45you tend to play the heavy a lot.

0:17:45 > 0:17:49Yes. Actually, I started in the theatre, on Broadway,

0:17:49 > 0:17:54in seven Broadway plays, all of them comedies.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57Light comedies, very light. They wouldn't allow them these days.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00They would be something you'd see on television.

0:18:00 > 0:18:05But my background was in improvisation and comedy.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08What I think is really encouraging about your career,

0:18:08 > 0:18:11particularly for those people who see young people coming up

0:18:11 > 0:18:13and being stars very quickly - "Oh, when did you start acting?"

0:18:13 > 0:18:16"When I was 15 and a half."

0:18:16 > 0:18:18- You didn't actually start until you were 30.- Yes.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21I think it's great that you've reached stardom

0:18:21 > 0:18:25and you're still a man of 40 or so...

0:18:25 > 0:18:2740 is right(!)

0:18:27 > 0:18:30I've done 50 films in ten years, amazing!

0:18:30 > 0:18:31LAUGHTER

0:18:31 > 0:18:33It hasn't been easy for you.

0:18:33 > 0:18:37What did you do in those 15, maybe more, years

0:18:37 > 0:18:40when you gave up school and decided... Did you always want to be an actor?

0:18:40 > 0:18:41Well, I did, secretly.

0:18:41 > 0:18:44I didn't want to tell anybody because I was ashamed.

0:18:44 > 0:18:48I thought maybe that was something that lightweights did.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50And, actually, I got into the business

0:18:50 > 0:18:53because I thought it would keep me from working

0:18:53 > 0:18:55and it was a way to meet girls.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57And it hasn't worked out that way at all.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59It's a lot of hard work, actually.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01That's so true. So many people go into acting

0:19:01 > 0:19:03- as it's a way to meet all the good-looking girls.- Yes.

0:19:03 > 0:19:07- But you haven't found them? - Elderly ladies at this point!

0:19:07 > 0:19:08Not all that elderly.

0:19:08 > 0:19:12It is funny, I never had any large goals as an actor.

0:19:12 > 0:19:15All I wanted to do was work. I loved it so much that

0:19:15 > 0:19:19I wanted off Broadway, and then a small part in television, maybe,

0:19:19 > 0:19:22and then Broadway. And that all kind of happened.

0:19:22 > 0:19:29And then, from a Broadway show, I was cast in a film called Lilith

0:19:29 > 0:19:32that Warren Beatty and Jean Seberg were in.

0:19:32 > 0:19:34And Warren then remembered me from that,

0:19:34 > 0:19:36and gave me a part in Bonnie And Clyde.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39- That was really when the bandwagon started.- That's right.

0:19:39 > 0:19:41Before that, you'd had hard times in New York

0:19:41 > 0:19:44along with Dustin Hoffman and Robert Duvall.

0:19:44 > 0:19:46We were all buddies together.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49Dustin and I had gone to the Pasadena Playhouse together

0:19:49 > 0:19:53and then we became great pals in New York.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56Did you ever confide in each other what your great dreams were?

0:19:56 > 0:19:58Do you ever, when you meet now, say, "Well, it worked out"?

0:19:58 > 0:20:03I think our great dreams were just to keep working, the tiny jobs,

0:20:03 > 0:20:05just anything.

0:20:05 > 0:20:10Bobby Duvall and I used to go around terrified that we would get a job,

0:20:10 > 0:20:13terrified to meet the agents.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16We had our 8x10 glossies with all this made-up stuff on the back,

0:20:16 > 0:20:20and we hadn't done anything. And we would go knock on the doors

0:20:20 > 0:20:23and slip our resumes under the door and run like thieves.

0:20:23 > 0:20:25I don't know what we expected to get from that.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29But it was amazing how things do work out,

0:20:29 > 0:20:32that all three of us have won Academy Awards,

0:20:32 > 0:20:36and have done some pretty interesting films.

0:20:36 > 0:20:39The major role that won you the Academy Award was Popeye Doyle

0:20:39 > 0:20:42in The French Connection.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45- You may not do anything better than that.- Why, thank you?!

0:20:45 > 0:20:47- GENTLE LAUGHTER - No, I...

0:20:48 > 0:20:50You know something I don't know?

0:20:50 > 0:20:54I mean it as a compliment, of course, to win an Oscar for it.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57But was there a great deal of yourself in that?

0:20:57 > 0:20:59Actually, at the beginning, very little,

0:20:59 > 0:21:02because I was pretty much over my head.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05As a matter of fact, on the second day of shooting,

0:21:05 > 0:21:07I'd asked the director to replace me

0:21:07 > 0:21:09because I just didn't feel I could do it.

0:21:09 > 0:21:14I was popping these guys in the mouth, and playing this tough guy.

0:21:14 > 0:21:19And it was real tough. I had never played a role quite that demanding.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22And after a while, you punch somebody long enough,

0:21:22 > 0:21:26- you get kind of used to it, you know. - You quite enjoy it.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28So, I kind of came around a bit.

0:21:28 > 0:21:31You're one of the few people who started as a character actor,

0:21:31 > 0:21:34and then went to stardom as a star role.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37Everyone remembers The Poseidon Adventure,

0:21:37 > 0:21:38you were playing a heroic role,

0:21:38 > 0:21:41but you haven't had too many of those subsequently.

0:21:41 > 0:21:44Did they decide that you weren't really cut out for heroism,

0:21:44 > 0:21:46- or did you decide? - I don't know.

0:21:46 > 0:21:53I'm always attracted to parts that extend me, that make me stretch.

0:21:53 > 0:21:56And I don't know that there's anyone who decided that.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58I suppose you do what you can do,

0:21:58 > 0:22:02you're cast pretty much close to type in films.

0:22:02 > 0:22:06- Do you do it for the art or for the money?- Absolutely art.

0:22:06 > 0:22:08The money comes secondary.

0:22:08 > 0:22:11It's funny that, after Superman, the first Superman,

0:22:11 > 0:22:14and I was paid quite well for that,

0:22:14 > 0:22:17and I didn't really like my work in it, after the film was over,

0:22:17 > 0:22:22and I decided to stop and I did quit for two years

0:22:22 > 0:22:24and then, when I wanted to come back to work,

0:22:24 > 0:22:26it took a long time to get a job.

0:22:26 > 0:22:30But I've decided since then that one can do those things where

0:22:30 > 0:22:34you're paid the money... obviously in a big budget film,

0:22:34 > 0:22:38and you're paid to bring a kind of a life to it.

0:22:38 > 0:22:40And it's kind of fun, it really is.

0:22:40 > 0:22:46One gets used to that bigger-than-life attitude

0:22:46 > 0:22:51about that kind of role in Superman, I really enjoy it.

0:22:51 > 0:22:52The great Gene Hackman there.

0:22:52 > 0:22:56Now, a four-time Oscar winner, the composer Henry Mancini,

0:22:56 > 0:23:00with a marvellous musical medley that includes a burst of

0:23:00 > 0:23:02one of the best loved, most iconic songs

0:23:02 > 0:23:06ever to grace a movie soundtrack.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08APPLAUSE

0:25:09 > 0:25:14MUSIC: "Moon River"

0:26:37 > 0:26:39APPLAUSE

0:26:48 > 0:26:52Moon River, of course, from Breakfast At Tiffany's.

0:26:52 > 0:26:55And the star of that classic film, Audrey Hepburn.

0:26:55 > 0:26:59Here she is. Was ever a star more admired for her beauty,

0:26:59 > 0:27:00more beloved?

0:27:00 > 0:27:05She begins by talking about the very early days of her career.

0:27:05 > 0:27:09I got a job in a musical, and that started a career of musicals...

0:27:09 > 0:27:13- As an actress.- ..and cabaret. No, dancing, I was still dancing then.

0:27:13 > 0:27:19And then I got a little part in a movie in Elstree,

0:27:19 > 0:27:22- and Ealing, and so forth. - Was that Laughter In Paradise?

0:27:22 > 0:27:26- Laughter In Paradise with Alistair Sim.- I think we have a picture of it.

0:27:26 > 0:27:28- Gosh. - AUDREY LAUGHS

0:27:28 > 0:27:32- What a very fetching little bow. - How about the bow on my hair?

0:27:32 > 0:27:36- Wonderful. Do you remember the lines you had to say?- No, I don't.

0:27:36 > 0:27:37It was only one line, too.

0:27:37 > 0:27:41It was something, "Do you want a ciggie?" Something like that.

0:27:41 > 0:27:45And then you went from strength to strength

0:27:45 > 0:27:46and your career began to burgeon

0:27:46 > 0:27:51and you made Roman Holiday with Gregory Peck.

0:27:51 > 0:27:55Gregory Peck, and directed by the great William Wyler.

0:27:55 > 0:27:58I think we also have a little excerpt from that

0:27:58 > 0:28:00to jog your memory.

0:28:00 > 0:28:02The mouth of truth.

0:28:02 > 0:28:06Legend is that if you're given to lying and put your hand in there,

0:28:06 > 0:28:08it will be bitten off.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10Oh, what a horrid idea.

0:28:10 > 0:28:12Let's see you do it.

0:28:35 > 0:28:37SHE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY Let's see you do it.

0:28:41 > 0:28:42Sure.

0:28:55 > 0:28:57HE SCREAMS SUDDENLY

0:28:57 > 0:28:58SHE CRIES OUT

0:28:58 > 0:29:00SHE SHRIEKS

0:29:00 > 0:29:02Hello!

0:29:02 > 0:29:04You beast!

0:29:06 > 0:29:08APPLAUSE

0:29:14 > 0:29:17Don't make them like that any more, as they say in the cliche.

0:29:17 > 0:29:18You looking so beautiful

0:29:18 > 0:29:21and Gregory Peck looking so extraordinarily handsome.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23Is there a bit of a story attaching to that?

0:29:23 > 0:29:25The hand and that? Were you expecting that to happen?

0:29:25 > 0:29:29No, but I must say that, you know, even tourists today,

0:29:29 > 0:29:32they don't really want to put their hand in there.

0:29:32 > 0:29:36I mean, it's a real tourist site, where everybody goes to.

0:29:36 > 0:29:42But, er...when we rehearsed it, I didn't know what he was going to do.

0:29:42 > 0:29:44And he didn't do it at the rehearsal.

0:29:44 > 0:29:45But he did it in the shot,

0:29:45 > 0:29:48- this terrible thing with the sleeve. - LAUGHTER

0:29:48 > 0:29:51- And you were...- It's one of those tricks that was played on me.

0:29:51 > 0:29:52You were a... I'm sure they did it

0:29:52 > 0:29:55because you were still an inexperienced actress at the time.

0:29:55 > 0:29:56I still am!

0:29:56 > 0:29:58No. Well, no, I wouldn't say that.

0:29:58 > 0:30:02Was William Wyler very important to you? Did you learn a lot from him?

0:30:04 > 0:30:06I would say almost everything.

0:30:06 > 0:30:08Because, as I said, I was a dancer

0:30:08 > 0:30:11and all of a sudden now I had to act,

0:30:11 > 0:30:14which I'd never really done before. I'd done a play,

0:30:14 > 0:30:19but I'd never been in front of a camera. But then I also...

0:30:19 > 0:30:21I was sort of joyfully innocent.

0:30:21 > 0:30:24You know, I'm much more worried today about coming here...

0:30:24 > 0:30:26No!

0:30:26 > 0:30:31..than I was then, because somehow Greg and Willy just made me feel,

0:30:31 > 0:30:35you know, very good and were so helpful and so kind.

0:30:35 > 0:30:39But he was a very exacting director, although I never realised it.

0:30:40 > 0:30:44Did he...? Somebody said he taught you how to cry.

0:30:44 > 0:30:46Well, no. I know why you ask me that.

0:30:46 > 0:30:48One of the last scenes in the picture,

0:30:48 > 0:30:52when I say goodbye to Greg after this wonderful time we've had...

0:30:52 > 0:30:54And we're sitting in this tiny, little car,

0:30:54 > 0:30:57and he takes me back to the embassy where I'm staying, and, erm...

0:30:59 > 0:31:03Obviously, we're saying goodbye and I'm supposed to burst into tears.

0:31:03 > 0:31:06And although I was terribly sad, the tears weren't coming.

0:31:06 > 0:31:09I didn't know how to just sort of fake it, or anything like that,

0:31:09 > 0:31:11and Willy, who was a dear man,

0:31:11 > 0:31:15had always been terribly gentle with me and very kind, after...

0:31:16 > 0:31:17..I won't say a few hours,

0:31:17 > 0:31:22but, I mean, quite a long time that the tears were not forthcoming,

0:31:22 > 0:31:25and he suddenly came up to me

0:31:25 > 0:31:27and started screaming at me and saying, "What is this?"

0:31:27 > 0:31:29And, "Who the hell do you think you are?"

0:31:29 > 0:31:32And, "We're not going to stay here all night!"

0:31:32 > 0:31:34And I was so upset with him talking to me that way that

0:31:34 > 0:31:37I burst into tears and they shot the scene and that's what you've got.

0:31:37 > 0:31:39- LAUGHTER - He had all kind of ways.

0:31:39 > 0:31:43- Bit of a cheat, that, isn't it? - All kinds of ways of making you act.

0:31:43 > 0:31:45You were often transformed in movies,

0:31:45 > 0:31:50- like in Funny Face or My Fair Lady, from the gauche to the grand.- Yes.

0:31:50 > 0:31:55- Cinderella.- Yeah. Which did you feel nearer to?

0:31:55 > 0:31:57Or do you fall somewhere in between?

0:31:57 > 0:32:00Oh, I was somewhere in between, I guess, but much more the gauche.

0:32:00 > 0:32:03I still have problems with that.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06- People think of you as extremely sophisticated and...- Well.

0:32:06 > 0:32:09- Very self-possessed. - That's in the beholder's eye.

0:32:09 > 0:32:14- But I don't feel...- Do you see yourself as very shy, withdrawn?

0:32:14 > 0:32:17- No, I don't...- Unable to cope? - ..have that much of a problem,

0:32:17 > 0:32:19but I don't see myself, you know, I don't look at myself,

0:32:19 > 0:32:21I don't think of myself as anything much.

0:32:21 > 0:32:23Once I'm home, it's just me

0:32:23 > 0:32:25and my life, you know.

0:32:25 > 0:32:28My Fair Lady was a great challenge for you.

0:32:28 > 0:32:30Yes, it was, and it was such a lovely part.

0:32:30 > 0:32:33Oh, of course, but which was the most difficult for you,

0:32:33 > 0:32:37the posh accent that Higgins transformed you into,

0:32:37 > 0:32:39or the cockney?

0:32:39 > 0:32:41Well, the cockney was a problem to a degree,

0:32:41 > 0:32:45because it had to be cockney and yet it couldn't be totally cockney

0:32:45 > 0:32:47because nobody would have understood a word I said.

0:32:47 > 0:32:48Because real cockney's hard to follow

0:32:48 > 0:32:50if you're not very familiar with it.

0:32:50 > 0:32:53So it had to be somewhere in between.

0:32:53 > 0:32:56You know? But it was but it was a wonderful experience.

0:32:56 > 0:32:58Yeah. It was a wonderful film.

0:32:58 > 0:33:01Marvellous music and terrific performances.

0:33:01 > 0:33:04We've got a little reminisce of that as well.

0:33:04 > 0:33:06This will bring you back a bit.

0:33:08 > 0:33:10HOOF BEATS

0:33:10 > 0:33:12Come on. Come on, Dover.

0:33:12 > 0:33:15Come on. Come on, Dover!

0:33:15 > 0:33:16Come on.

0:33:20 > 0:33:22Come on, Dover!

0:33:22 > 0:33:24Move your bloomin' arse!

0:33:24 > 0:33:27LAUGHTER

0:33:27 > 0:33:30APPLAUSE

0:33:30 > 0:33:31Oh, my dear.

0:33:37 > 0:33:39- Still works, doesn't it? - Yes, it does. The audience...

0:33:39 > 0:33:41That's the part the audience love best.

0:33:43 > 0:33:48So, there we got Audrey Hepburn's take on that famous scene

0:33:48 > 0:33:50from Roman Holiday, but there are two sides to every story

0:33:50 > 0:33:54as you know, so let's get the great Gregory Peck's version as well.

0:33:56 > 0:33:58So we were going to play that little scene

0:33:58 > 0:34:02and I said to Willy Wyler, the director,

0:34:02 > 0:34:07on the side, I said, "You know the old shtick...

0:34:07 > 0:34:10"that Red Skelton used to do all the time?"

0:34:10 > 0:34:13And I think the Crazy Gang used to do it.

0:34:13 > 0:34:16"What if I put my hand in the stone statue

0:34:16 > 0:34:17"and what if I bring it out like that,

0:34:17 > 0:34:19"and we don't tell Audrey?"

0:34:19 > 0:34:22He said, "It's corny, but go ahead and do it."

0:34:22 > 0:34:25LAUGHTER So we didn't tell Audrey.

0:34:25 > 0:34:31I did it, and... And I screamed. And she just went out of her mind.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34You insisted that Audrey Hepburn,

0:34:34 > 0:34:37although she was merely a young ingenue at that time,

0:34:37 > 0:34:41you insisted that she be given extra billing with you in that film.

0:34:41 > 0:34:45I did. But you know, it wasn't all that altruistic. I...

0:34:45 > 0:34:47We could see from the very first day

0:34:47 > 0:34:50that Audrey was born to play this role.

0:34:50 > 0:34:53She was the princess from day one,

0:34:53 > 0:34:59and after a week or so... And I had sole star billing.

0:35:00 > 0:35:03Gregory Peck in Roman Holiday.

0:35:03 > 0:35:07And as I thought about it and I watched this marvel of a girl

0:35:07 > 0:35:10give this lovely performance, I thought...

0:35:10 > 0:35:15"Now, Greg, you're just going to look like a damn fool

0:35:15 > 0:35:18"if your name is up there on top all by yourself."

0:35:20 > 0:35:23So I called my agent in Hollywood and I said,

0:35:23 > 0:35:28"You've got to speak to Paramount and it has to be co-star billing."

0:35:28 > 0:35:30He said, "You can't do that.

0:35:30 > 0:35:33"You can't give up this prerogative that you've earned."

0:35:33 > 0:35:36I said, "Yes, I can and I will.

0:35:36 > 0:35:39"And believe me, it's the right thing to do."

0:35:39 > 0:35:43And it was, because when the picture came out...

0:35:45 > 0:35:47..people just went wild about Audrey

0:35:47 > 0:35:51and all the little girls in Japan cut their hair short.

0:35:51 > 0:35:53And it was a worldwide hit and...

0:35:53 > 0:35:56- Nobody noticed you at all?- Hmm? LAUGHTER

0:35:56 > 0:35:57Just barely!

0:35:59 > 0:36:01Yeah, well, I was in there too.

0:36:01 > 0:36:03It was a nice picture and I admit

0:36:03 > 0:36:06it's a very happy memory that we have

0:36:06 > 0:36:09of six months in Rome making that film.

0:36:09 > 0:36:11Did you grow up with acting ambitions?

0:36:12 > 0:36:15- Oh, not at all, no. - How did you start?

0:36:15 > 0:36:17Well...

0:36:17 > 0:36:21I graduated from college and I went...

0:36:21 > 0:36:23I was... I was...

0:36:24 > 0:36:29Fell in love with the thing, the theatre, when I was in college.

0:36:29 > 0:36:34And I thought, "Well, I'll go to New York and I'll see what I can do.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36"I'll give it a try for a few years."

0:36:36 > 0:36:40So I went to drama school and at the end of two years,

0:36:40 > 0:36:44they had what they called a demonstration play.

0:36:44 > 0:36:47And agents and talent scouts came...

0:36:49 > 0:36:51..to have a look and to see us do our stuff.

0:36:51 > 0:36:53And then it was the custom for the students

0:36:53 > 0:36:56to go back to the school the next morning

0:36:56 > 0:36:59and, er, wait for the phone calls

0:36:59 > 0:37:01that sometimes came, sometimes didn't.

0:37:01 > 0:37:03There was a call,

0:37:03 > 0:37:06and the receptionist put her hand over the phone

0:37:06 > 0:37:08and she looked at me and she said, "It's for you."

0:37:08 > 0:37:12And it was a famous producer named Guthrie McClintic,

0:37:12 > 0:37:16interested to see me about a small role in a play called

0:37:16 > 0:37:17The Doctor's Dilemma by Shaw.

0:37:19 > 0:37:22Well, I didn't wait for the end of the sentence. I took off.

0:37:22 > 0:37:26I knew exactly where his office was, it was six blocks away.

0:37:26 > 0:37:31And for your viewers who don't know Manhattan geography,

0:37:31 > 0:37:35I dashed across 46th Street, four blocks up 6th Avenue,

0:37:35 > 0:37:38to the building where Guthrie McClintic's office was.

0:37:38 > 0:37:40Into the elevator, up to the eighth floor,

0:37:40 > 0:37:42skidded down the hall into his office.

0:37:42 > 0:37:45He's still talking on the phone to the receptionist.

0:37:45 > 0:37:47LAUGHTER

0:37:48 > 0:37:50And he just... He stared at me.

0:37:51 > 0:37:53And there I was, the fellow he...

0:37:53 > 0:38:00And he began to laugh and then that segued into a cough

0:38:00 > 0:38:03and he went into a kind of a fit

0:38:03 > 0:38:07and slid off of the seat, laughing, coughing

0:38:07 > 0:38:10and he said, "You've got the job."

0:38:10 > 0:38:12LAUGHTER

0:38:12 > 0:38:14So that was the beginning.

0:38:14 > 0:38:16It had nothing to do with anything except

0:38:16 > 0:38:19that I was a pretty fast runner in those days.

0:38:20 > 0:38:22The American Film Institute

0:38:22 > 0:38:25made a presentation of the Life Achievement Award.

0:38:25 > 0:38:28You know, the Life Achievement Award has,

0:38:28 > 0:38:31if you think about it, a slightly ominous ring to it.

0:38:33 > 0:38:37And I remember I got up there and I said...

0:38:37 > 0:38:40You know, James Mason was a friend of mine and I said,

0:38:40 > 0:38:43"James was not a man of a lot of jokes,

0:38:43 > 0:38:45"but he had one joke that he liked to tell."

0:38:45 > 0:38:47Had to do with his filming in Dublin,

0:38:47 > 0:38:50going out one evening for a walk and window shopping.

0:38:50 > 0:38:53And he had a trench coat and a hat,

0:38:53 > 0:38:55didn't think he'd be recognised.

0:38:55 > 0:38:58And, er, a little lady trailed along behind him,

0:38:58 > 0:38:59and finally worked up the nerve,

0:38:59 > 0:39:02and she tapped him on the should and she said...

0:39:02 > 0:39:04IRISH ACCENT: "Begging your pardon, sir.

0:39:04 > 0:39:07"But wouldn't you be James Mason in his later years?"

0:39:07 > 0:39:09LAUGHTER

0:39:13 > 0:39:18And I liked... I liked that good Irish phrase, "later years".

0:39:18 > 0:39:22I like it because it's candid and it's dispassionate,

0:39:22 > 0:39:24but it's comfortable.

0:39:24 > 0:39:28Because it leaves the possibility of more to come.

0:39:30 > 0:39:33Finally, another Oscar-winning legend

0:39:33 > 0:39:36and a moment I'll certainly never forget.

0:39:36 > 0:39:40James Stewart, so many people's favourite actor,

0:39:40 > 0:39:42came on the show in 1988.

0:39:42 > 0:39:46And as you'd expect, he charmed and delighted everybody,

0:39:46 > 0:39:50and then left everyone else welling up with a poem he'd written

0:39:50 > 0:39:54for his much-loved, recently deceased pet dog.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58He never came to me when I would call

0:39:58 > 0:40:01Unless I had a tennis ball

0:40:01 > 0:40:03Or he felt like it

0:40:03 > 0:40:06But mostly, he didn't come at all

0:40:06 > 0:40:08When he was young

0:40:08 > 0:40:11He never learned to heel or sit or stay

0:40:11 > 0:40:13He did things his way

0:40:13 > 0:40:15Discipline was not his bag

0:40:15 > 0:40:18But when you were with him things sure didn't drag

0:40:18 > 0:40:21He'd dig up a rose bush just to spite me

0:40:21 > 0:40:23And when I'd grab him

0:40:23 > 0:40:24He'd turn and bite me

0:40:24 > 0:40:27He bit lots of folks from day to day

0:40:27 > 0:40:31The delivery boy was his favourite prey

0:40:31 > 0:40:33He gas man would read our meter

0:40:33 > 0:40:36He said we owned a real man-eater

0:40:37 > 0:40:40He set the house on fire

0:40:40 > 0:40:42But the story's too long to tell

0:40:42 > 0:40:44But suffice to say, that he survived

0:40:44 > 0:40:46And the house survived as well

0:40:46 > 0:40:48And on evening walks

0:40:48 > 0:40:51When Mom took him

0:40:51 > 0:40:53He was always first out the door

0:40:53 > 0:40:55The old one and I brought up the rear

0:40:55 > 0:40:57Because our bones were sore

0:40:57 > 0:41:00And he'd charge up the street

0:41:00 > 0:41:02With Mom hanging on

0:41:02 > 0:41:04What a beautiful sight they were

0:41:04 > 0:41:05And if it was still light

0:41:05 > 0:41:07And the tourists were out

0:41:07 > 0:41:09They created a bit of a stir

0:41:09 > 0:41:11But every once in a while

0:41:11 > 0:41:13He'd stop in his track

0:41:13 > 0:41:15And with a frown on his face turn around

0:41:15 > 0:41:18Just to make sure that the old one was there

0:41:18 > 0:41:21To follow him where he was bound

0:41:22 > 0:41:24We're early-to-bedders in our house

0:41:24 > 0:41:27I guess I'm the first to retire

0:41:28 > 0:41:29As I leave the room

0:41:29 > 0:41:31He'd look up at me

0:41:31 > 0:41:33And get up from his place by the fire

0:41:33 > 0:41:36He knew where the tennis balls were upstairs

0:41:36 > 0:41:38And I'd give him one for a while

0:41:38 > 0:41:41And he'd shove it under the bed with his nose

0:41:41 > 0:41:43And I'd dig it out with a smile

0:41:44 > 0:41:46But before very long

0:41:46 > 0:41:47He'd tyre of the ball

0:41:47 > 0:41:49And be asleep in his corner

0:41:49 > 0:41:51In no time at all

0:41:52 > 0:41:54And there were nights

0:41:54 > 0:41:57When I'd feel him climb up on our bed,

0:41:57 > 0:41:59And lie between us

0:41:59 > 0:42:02And I'd pat his head

0:42:02 > 0:42:03And there were nights

0:42:03 > 0:42:06When I'd feel this stare

0:42:06 > 0:42:08And I'd wake up

0:42:08 > 0:42:10And he'd be sitting there

0:42:10 > 0:42:13And I'd reach out my hand to stroke his hair

0:42:13 > 0:42:17And sometimes I'd feel him sigh

0:42:17 > 0:42:20And I think, I know the reason why

0:42:21 > 0:42:24He'd wake up and night

0:42:24 > 0:42:26And he would have this fear

0:42:28 > 0:42:29Of the dark, of life

0:42:29 > 0:42:32Of lots of things

0:42:32 > 0:42:35And he'd be glad to have me near

0:42:37 > 0:42:39And now he's dead

0:42:40 > 0:42:43And...there are nights...

0:42:44 > 0:42:46When I think I feel him

0:42:46 > 0:42:49Climb up on our bed

0:42:49 > 0:42:51And lie between us

0:42:53 > 0:42:55And I pat his head

0:42:55 > 0:42:57And there are nights

0:42:57 > 0:43:00When I think I feel that stare

0:43:02 > 0:43:04And I reach out my hand

0:43:04 > 0:43:06To stroke his hair

0:43:06 > 0:43:08But he's not there

0:43:09 > 0:43:12Oh, how I wish that wasn't so

0:43:15 > 0:43:18I'll always love a dog named Beau.

0:43:18 > 0:43:20APPLAUSE

0:43:22 > 0:43:24INAUDIBLE

0:43:35 > 0:43:38Ah, gets you every time, doesn't it?

0:43:38 > 0:43:42There's no way to top that, so we'll call a close on the proceedings.

0:43:42 > 0:43:43But do join me again

0:43:43 > 0:43:48for more Wogan Best Bits next time. Till then...