0:00:02 > 0:00:04It was a show that went out three nights a week, live...
0:00:04 > 0:00:05Mr Wogan, you're on, you're on.
0:00:05 > 0:00:09..with a live audience and everyone who was anyone dropping in -
0:00:09 > 0:00:12the great and the good, the bad and the ugly.
0:00:12 > 0:00:13They called it Wogan -
0:00:13 > 0:00:15ha. I never knew why.
0:00:15 > 0:00:18So, if you're sitting comfortably,
0:00:18 > 0:00:20I'll show you something I made earlier.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22God knows what they'll make of us in 25 years' time.
0:00:22 > 0:00:25JAZZY MUSIC
0:00:35 > 0:00:36Welcome.
0:00:36 > 0:00:38Now, today we're dealing with guests
0:00:38 > 0:00:42who came with a reputation for toughness.
0:00:42 > 0:00:44Some were known for playing tough characters,
0:00:44 > 0:00:48some were so genuinely tough, you wouldn't want to mess with them
0:00:48 > 0:00:50and a few, they were just messing around.
0:00:50 > 0:00:53The list includes Bette Davis,
0:00:53 > 0:00:55Joan Collins,
0:00:55 > 0:00:57Arnold Schwarzenegger,
0:00:57 > 0:00:59Roger Moore
0:00:59 > 0:01:01and Leslie Nielsen
0:01:01 > 0:01:04but we're kicking things off with a music icon
0:01:04 > 0:01:08and one of rock'n'roll's original bad boys -
0:01:08 > 0:01:09Jerry Lee Lewis.
0:01:09 > 0:01:11MUSIC: Great Balls Of Fire by Jerry Lee Lewis
0:01:11 > 0:01:14# You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain
0:01:14 > 0:01:17# Too much gets to drive a man insane
0:01:17 > 0:01:19# You broke my will, what a thrill
0:01:19 > 0:01:23# Give it to me, give it to me, give it to me, give it to me
0:01:23 > 0:01:25# I laughed at love cos I thought it was funny
0:01:25 > 0:01:28# You came along and moved me, honey
0:01:28 > 0:01:30# Changing my mind, I think it's fine
0:01:30 > 0:01:34# Goodness gracious, great balls of fire
0:01:34 > 0:01:37# You kissed me, mama, it feels good
0:01:37 > 0:01:40# Whoo
0:01:40 > 0:01:41# Hold me, baby
0:01:41 > 0:01:44# Girl, just let me love you like a lover should
0:01:44 > 0:01:46# You're fine, so kind
0:01:46 > 0:01:49# I'm gonna tell this world that you're mine, mine, mine, mine
0:01:49 > 0:01:52# Girl, I chew my nails and I twiddle my thumbs
0:01:52 > 0:01:54# Real nervous but it sure is fun
0:01:54 > 0:01:57# Come on, baby, you drive me crazy
0:01:57 > 0:01:59# Goodness gracious, great balls of fire
0:02:19 > 0:02:22# Well, kiss me, baby
0:02:22 > 0:02:24# My God, it feels good
0:02:24 > 0:02:28# Whoo, hold me, woman
0:02:28 > 0:02:31# Let old Jerry love you like a lover should
0:02:31 > 0:02:33# You're fine, so kind
0:02:33 > 0:02:36# I'm gonna tell this world that you're mine, mine, mine, mine
0:02:36 > 0:02:39# Lord, I chew my nails and I twiddle my thumbs
0:02:39 > 0:02:41# I'm real nervous but it sure is fun
0:02:41 > 0:02:44# Come on, baby, you drive me crazy
0:02:44 > 0:02:47# Goodness gracious, great balls of fire. #
0:02:47 > 0:02:49APPLAUSE
0:02:51 > 0:02:54Whoo!
0:02:54 > 0:02:55Thank you very much.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12Who influenced your piano style?
0:03:12 > 0:03:13Nobody.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15LAUGHTER
0:03:15 > 0:03:19At eight years old, I had never heard of any piano players.
0:03:19 > 0:03:22You weren't playing like that from the time you were eight?
0:03:22 > 0:03:23Two weeks, I was playing pretty good.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25LAUGHTER
0:03:25 > 0:03:28That's right. APPLAUSE
0:03:30 > 0:03:35But then you've had what one could describe as a very wild lifestyle?
0:03:35 > 0:03:37No, Jerry Lee Lewis style.
0:03:37 > 0:03:39Rock'n'roll. APPLAUSE
0:03:43 > 0:03:47I... You know, you've got a Baptist Church, a Methodist church,
0:03:47 > 0:03:49a Presbyterian church, you've got the Church of Christ,
0:03:49 > 0:03:51all kinds of churches.
0:03:51 > 0:03:53Everybody's right and everybody's wrong.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55I just say rock'n'roll. I don't know.
0:03:55 > 0:03:57But what's your lifestyle like now?
0:03:57 > 0:04:00I mean, when you're not performing, how do you...
0:04:00 > 0:04:01Onstage or in theatre...
0:04:01 > 0:04:03Well, you don't want to get personal, would you?
0:04:03 > 0:04:05No, but I mean how do you relax? Do you relax?
0:04:05 > 0:04:10Well, I do relax. Yes, I do. I have a nice place in Memphis, Tennessee -
0:04:10 > 0:04:15a farm out on the edge of Memphis there that I relax on.
0:04:15 > 0:04:16- Do you get...- I'm a single man,
0:04:16 > 0:04:18I'm as free as the breeze and I do what I please.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20Jerry Lee Lewis, thank you.
0:04:20 > 0:04:22Terry, you're a gentleman.
0:04:22 > 0:04:24APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:04:29 > 0:04:34Oh, if only I knew what was going on in his head. Ah.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38Next, a lady with one of the sharpest tongues in Hollywood
0:04:38 > 0:04:41and one of the cinema's finest actresses.
0:04:41 > 0:04:44When Bette Davis came on the show back in 1987,
0:04:44 > 0:04:48she was there for one reason and one reason only -
0:04:48 > 0:04:49to publicise her book
0:04:49 > 0:04:55and woe betide any old chat show host who might have got in her away.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58They do say that you coined the word Oscar for the Academy Awards.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04Well, yes.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07The Academy claims it also.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09- How did that come about?- Well,
0:05:09 > 0:05:14I was married to a Mr Harmon O.Nelson
0:05:14 > 0:05:18and he never told me what the O stands for, stood for
0:05:18 > 0:05:22and he finally told me his middle name was Oscar
0:05:22 > 0:05:25and he hated it and I must never use it
0:05:25 > 0:05:28but the back side of the Oscar looks just like him.
0:05:28 > 0:05:30LAUGHTER
0:05:30 > 0:05:32So just in fun,
0:05:32 > 0:05:35I called the statue Oscar
0:05:35 > 0:05:40and the Academy is not happy about it so I've just said to the Academy,
0:05:40 > 0:05:42"Please take all the credit."
0:05:42 > 0:05:44It really isn't going to make or break my career
0:05:44 > 0:05:47if I didn't name the Oscar.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52But you say you should have got it for Human Bondage?
0:05:52 > 0:05:54- Oh, yes, definitely.- You really enjoyed that,
0:05:54 > 0:05:56the Cockney accent and everything?
0:05:56 > 0:05:59Well, it was my first step up the ladder, that's right.
0:05:59 > 0:06:04- Can you still do that Cockney accent?- Tiny beginnings.
0:06:04 > 0:06:07- Well, yes, because she was very "ladylike" Cockney.- Yes, "ladylike".
0:06:07 > 0:06:11- She wasn't the broad Cockney. - Yeah.- Yes.
0:06:11 > 0:06:13Well, I haven't practised lately, so...
0:06:13 > 0:06:15LAUGHTER
0:06:15 > 0:06:16I mean, she always said,
0:06:16 > 0:06:19- COCKNEY ACCENT:- "Oh, I don't mind.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- LAUGHTER - "I don't mind."
0:06:21 > 0:06:23- Yes.- She was a nasty piece of work.
0:06:23 > 0:06:25You have to ask me about my book.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:06:34 > 0:06:35Well, actually...
0:06:35 > 0:06:40Yeah, you see, I know you're enormously popular in England
0:06:40 > 0:06:42and I'm thrilled to be on your show...
0:06:42 > 0:06:44LAUGHTER
0:06:44 > 0:06:46but I came on this show to sell a book.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48- I am in England to sell a book. - LAUGHTER
0:06:48 > 0:06:50Oh, I don't know. We're glad to see you,
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- whether you've come to sell a book or not.- Well, good.
0:06:52 > 0:06:56- Yes, I'm a sales woman. Yes, they... - Well, I think they're probably...
0:06:56 > 0:06:58Sidgwick & Company have bought my book
0:06:58 > 0:07:00and I must say, I'm very proud of it.
0:07:00 > 0:07:03A lot of the information that obviously I'm talking to you about
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- comes from the book...- Oh, yes, in this...
0:07:05 > 0:07:07..because it's a biography and it's all about your films.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10- No, this is not a biography. - Isn't it?- No, no, no.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12- Not all about my films, they're never mentioned.- Aren't they?
0:07:12 > 0:07:16No. This And That is exactly what it says -
0:07:16 > 0:07:20This and that, odds and ends and odds and ends.
0:07:20 > 0:07:25Now, in England, they have added the two words, "A Memoir".
0:07:25 > 0:07:28Well, there are of course many, many memories
0:07:28 > 0:07:31but it's really not necessarily that
0:07:31 > 0:07:34but it's not autobiography at all. No.
0:07:34 > 0:07:35But it's about you?
0:07:35 > 0:07:38It's just about things I think,
0:07:38 > 0:07:41- things that have happened to me... - And people you've met?
0:07:41 > 0:07:43..and people I have met, yes,
0:07:43 > 0:07:45and we worked very hard on it
0:07:45 > 0:07:50and we're very thrilled it was on the New York Times' bestseller list
0:07:50 > 0:07:53- for four months which is terrific...- Yes.
0:07:53 > 0:07:57..so we can sit here and say it's successful at home,
0:07:57 > 0:08:00we hope it will be successful here.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02LAUGHTER
0:08:11 > 0:08:13I appreciate very much
0:08:13 > 0:08:17you gave me this opportunity to talk about my book.
0:08:17 > 0:08:19LAUGHTER
0:08:19 > 0:08:23Bette Davis actually pops up again in this next exchange
0:08:23 > 0:08:26with Joan Collins, no less.
0:08:26 > 0:08:30At the time, our Joan was revelling in the international notoriety
0:08:30 > 0:08:34that came with playing the nastiest woman on television,
0:08:34 > 0:08:37Dynasty's Alexis Carrington.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40- We're going to do a ravishing anthology of you.- Are you?
0:08:40 > 0:08:43- Oh, my goodness me.- Well, looking back into the dim and distant past.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- Really?- Yeah.- I thought we were going to talk about my book.
0:08:46 > 0:08:47- Oh, well, maybe later.- No, don't,
0:08:47 > 0:08:50you'll begin to sound like Bette Davis if you do that.
0:08:50 > 0:08:51Why, what did she do?
0:08:51 > 0:08:52Halfway through the interview she said,
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- AMERICAN ACCENT:- "OK, well, that's enough about me, dear.
0:08:55 > 0:08:57- "What about my book?"- Oh, really? - LAUGHTER
0:08:57 > 0:09:00Well, God forbid, I don't want to sound like Bette Davis.
0:09:00 > 0:09:02You liked Bette Davis, didn't you? You did The Virgin Queen with her.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05- I did.- Did you get on well with her? - Not terribly well, no.- Why?
0:09:05 > 0:09:08She didn't like me. I don't know why.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10She was quite mean to me.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12I don't think she liked particularly that I was very young then
0:09:12 > 0:09:16and I played her lady-in-waiting, Lady Beth Throgmorton,
0:09:16 > 0:09:19who was with child by Sir Walter Raleigh.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21- There you are, look.- Oh, my God.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23There's no sign of you being with child.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26- Well, I had a good corset on there. - I see.- It held it all in.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28You see, you can see the way she's looking at me -
0:09:28 > 0:09:31- you can tell she doesn't like me. - LAUGHTER
0:09:33 > 0:09:37I think anybody who knows you would probably agree with you
0:09:37 > 0:09:42that in fact, contrary to the kind of parts that you play
0:09:42 > 0:09:44and how you are pictured by the press,
0:09:44 > 0:09:47you're quite a soft person really, aren't you?
0:09:47 > 0:09:49A little bit insecure, even.
0:09:49 > 0:09:52Well, I think all actors are dreadfully insecure.
0:09:52 > 0:09:55That's the reason we're actors in the first place -
0:09:55 > 0:09:56we all really don't like ourselves
0:09:56 > 0:09:59so we all want to get up there and be someone else
0:09:59 > 0:10:02which is why it's so much fun to play Alexis.
0:10:02 > 0:10:06I can play this really tough, in control, aggressive woman
0:10:06 > 0:10:09which I have become more like, I must say,
0:10:09 > 0:10:11since I have been playing it.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15I have learnt a few things from her - not enough, I must say.
0:10:15 > 0:10:17She's not a person I would like to be but she has certain qualities
0:10:17 > 0:10:22that I appreciate and that I think are quite admirable really.
0:10:22 > 0:10:26I mean, the way she looks after her finances, her empire,
0:10:26 > 0:10:28the way she absolutely single-mindedly
0:10:28 > 0:10:31goes after anything she wants and will get it.
0:10:31 > 0:10:35I have learnt a bit from her but then she's very hard
0:10:35 > 0:10:38and that I don't like. You know, she's not really that vulnerable.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41I try to bring some vulnerability to her
0:10:41 > 0:10:44but they're always wanting me to do things like
0:10:44 > 0:10:48put a cigarette out in an egg, a fried egg
0:10:48 > 0:10:51or grind a cigarette out in to my sable that's on the floor.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53I say, "I'm not going to do this, guys.
0:10:53 > 0:10:57"I mean, I'm not going to do it. This is a £20,000 sable,
0:10:57 > 0:11:00"you want me to grind this cigarette out into it?"
0:11:00 > 0:11:02He goes, "Oh, no. It'll just be fake when we do that,"
0:11:02 > 0:11:04not into the £20,000 sable
0:11:04 > 0:11:10but they do like to try and pile on the, how shall I say this...
0:11:10 > 0:11:13- The arrogance?- ..the over the top bit, yes.- The arrogance.
0:11:13 > 0:11:16- Yes, the arrogance.- You're not arrogant at all, you say?
0:11:16 > 0:11:19Well, I'm not unarrogant but I'm not really arrogant.
0:11:19 > 0:11:22I'm confident but not arrogant, I don't think.
0:11:22 > 0:11:24Success obviously helps to make you more confident.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26Yes, but I think that it wasn't really success.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30I think that success comes to you because of what you have...
0:11:30 > 0:11:33If you have something inside that you believe in yourself.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35I believe very much in myself, you see.
0:11:35 > 0:11:37I don't believe what other people say about me.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41I don't take any notice of critics or people who snipe at me
0:11:41 > 0:11:45because I have to know who I am myself
0:11:45 > 0:11:48and I have to know my own worth
0:11:48 > 0:11:51and what Joan Collins feels about Joan Collins.
0:11:51 > 0:11:53That's the only thing that's important and I think that's true
0:11:53 > 0:11:56for everybody. I try to teach my children that,
0:11:56 > 0:11:58that it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about you.
0:11:58 > 0:12:01- Does Joan Collins like Joan Collins? - Yes, I do.
0:12:01 > 0:12:04Now, I suppose that sounds big-headed.
0:12:04 > 0:12:07And you're a lady who's kept her glamour,
0:12:07 > 0:12:10to the envy of most ladies of your own age.
0:12:10 > 0:12:14When the glamour does fade, will you be able to handle it?
0:12:14 > 0:12:17Yes, I think so. I've thought about that quite a lot and I have...
0:12:17 > 0:12:20I don't believe that being beautiful or glamorous
0:12:20 > 0:12:24is the prerogative of just being a teenager or in your 20s.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27There are lots of women that I know who are in their 60s and 70s
0:12:27 > 0:12:30and even 80s who I think are beautiful and glamorous.
0:12:30 > 0:12:32Of course, it's not the beauty of youth
0:12:32 > 0:12:36but there are other compensations - there's wisdom, there's humour,
0:12:36 > 0:12:39there's a certain fineness of feature.
0:12:39 > 0:12:41I mean, look at Lena Horne, for example - she's 70...
0:12:41 > 0:12:43And of course, there's a change in attitude
0:12:43 > 0:12:46because you've got to, from now on,
0:12:46 > 0:12:48let people make what they like of you.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50Well, exactly and of course, if you don't get older,
0:12:50 > 0:12:51what's the alternative?
0:12:51 > 0:12:53The Big D -
0:12:53 > 0:12:55- and we don't want that, not yet. - LAUGHTER
0:12:55 > 0:12:57Well, no, not yet and I'm sure not for an awful long time.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00- No.- It's been a pleasure to have you on the show.- Terry, it's been great.
0:13:00 > 0:13:02- I hope the cold gets better. - Thank you, darling.
0:13:02 > 0:13:04- Thank you for joining us.- Thank you.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06APPLAUSE
0:13:10 > 0:13:12Dynasty, or if you're American, DIE-nasty,
0:13:12 > 0:13:16was of course a show where shoulder pads, hair and shiny teeth
0:13:16 > 0:13:19were just as important as the plot -
0:13:19 > 0:13:22probably more so, which is perhaps why the Bee Gees came to mind
0:13:22 > 0:13:25when choosing this next musical interlude.
0:13:25 > 0:13:27APPLAUSE
0:13:27 > 0:13:30MUSIC: You Win Again by The Bee Gees
0:13:34 > 0:13:39# I couldn't figure why you couldn't give me what everybody needs
0:13:39 > 0:13:45# I shouldn't let you kick me when I'm down, my baby
0:13:45 > 0:13:51# I find out everybody knows that you've been using me
0:13:51 > 0:13:57# I'm surprised you let me stay around you
0:13:57 > 0:14:02# One day I'm gonna lift the cover and look inside your heart
0:14:02 > 0:14:07# We gotta level before we go and tear this love apart
0:14:07 > 0:14:12# There's no fight, you can't fight this battle of love with me
0:14:12 > 0:14:18# You win again, so little time, we do nothing but compete
0:14:18 > 0:14:24# There's no life on earth, no other could see me through
0:14:24 > 0:14:31# You win again, some never try but if anybody can, we can
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- # And I'll be- And I'll be - And I'll be- I'll be
0:14:34 > 0:14:37# Following you
0:14:37 > 0:14:43# Oh, girl, oh, girl
0:14:43 > 0:14:49# Oh, baby, I shake you from now on
0:14:49 > 0:14:55# I'm gonna break down your defences, one by one
0:14:55 > 0:15:01# I'm gonna hit you from all sides, lay your fortress open wide
0:15:01 > 0:15:06# Nobody stops this body from taking you
0:15:06 > 0:15:09# You better beware, I swear
0:15:09 > 0:15:13# I'm gonna be there one day when you fall
0:15:13 > 0:15:17# I could never let you cast aside the greatest love of all
0:15:17 > 0:15:23# There's no fight, you can't fight this battle of love with me
0:15:23 > 0:15:29# You win again, so little time, we do nothing but compete
0:15:29 > 0:15:34# There's no life on earth, no other could see me through
0:15:34 > 0:15:43# You win again, some never try but if anybody can, we can
0:15:43 > 0:15:45- # And I'll be- I'll be - And I'll be- I'll be
0:15:45 > 0:15:48# Following you
0:15:48 > 0:15:51# Oh, girl
0:15:56 > 0:16:02# You win again, so little time, we do nothing but compete
0:16:02 > 0:16:08- # There's no life on earth, no other could see me through- Oh, girl
0:16:08 > 0:16:15# You win again, some never try but if anybody can, we can
0:16:15 > 0:16:18- # And I'll be- I'll be - And I'll be- I'll be
0:16:18 > 0:16:20# Following you
0:16:20 > 0:16:23# Oh, oh
0:16:23 > 0:16:30# You win again, so little time, we do nothing but compete
0:16:30 > 0:16:36# There's no life on earth, no other could see me through
0:16:36 > 0:16:41# You win again, some never try but if anybody can, we can
0:16:41 > 0:16:47# There's no fight, you can't fight this battle of love with me
0:16:47 > 0:16:51# You win again, so little time... #
0:16:51 > 0:16:53APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:16:55 > 0:16:57Now, I don't pretend to remember every single guest
0:16:57 > 0:17:00who appeared on the Wogan show -
0:17:00 > 0:17:01in fact, very few of them
0:17:01 > 0:17:04but I've got total recall when it comes to this one.
0:17:04 > 0:17:09Well, you don't go forgetting Arnold Schwarzenegger in a hurry, do you?
0:17:09 > 0:17:12I mean, there's a lot of him.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14Who writes this stuff?
0:17:14 > 0:17:16APPLAUSE
0:17:27 > 0:17:29SCREAMING
0:17:31 > 0:17:33- Quiet, fellas, quiet. - LAUGHTER
0:17:33 > 0:17:36- Fellas?- Did you bring your relations with you this evening?
0:17:36 > 0:17:41No, no, I have millions of fans like this all over the world.
0:17:41 > 0:17:43They are just some of them. CHEERING
0:17:43 > 0:17:45Yes. You're just as modest as my last guest.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47LAUGHTER
0:17:47 > 0:17:50Schwarzenegger is a mouthful, isn't it? Why didn't you change it?
0:17:50 > 0:17:54Well, when I went to America and I got into acting,
0:17:54 > 0:17:55everybody wanted me to change my name
0:17:55 > 0:17:58because people started saying, "Schwarzenschnitzel," and,
0:17:58 > 0:18:00"Schwarzenheimunblemenschnell," -
0:18:00 > 0:18:02nobody could pronounce it so they said just call it Schwarze
0:18:02 > 0:18:05or call it something different but not Schwarzenegger.
0:18:05 > 0:18:11I felt that they were complaining about everything about me,
0:18:11 > 0:18:13not just about the name - they said, "You have a strange body,
0:18:13 > 0:18:16"you have a strange accent, you have a strange name - forget it.
0:18:16 > 0:18:18"You will never make it in movies,"
0:18:18 > 0:18:21and I kept all of those things - I still have a strange accent,
0:18:21 > 0:18:25a strange name and a strange body and so I'm doing well with my movies.
0:18:25 > 0:18:27But it's not a strange body.
0:18:27 > 0:18:30No, no, but they mean for the average person to have
0:18:30 > 0:18:33a 50-something-inch chest and to have a gorgeous...
0:18:33 > 0:18:35WHISTLING
0:18:35 > 0:18:37..to have a gorgeous face like this,
0:18:37 > 0:18:39I mean, it's all very abnormal... LAUGHTER
0:18:39 > 0:18:45..but what happened was the uniqueness of the name
0:18:45 > 0:18:47became the strong point now and now,
0:18:47 > 0:18:50people cannot forget the name because it took them a long time to remember,
0:18:50 > 0:18:53now, they have to stick with it.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55Well, it's certainly served you well, hasn't it?
0:18:55 > 0:18:59This new film you've made, Commando, it's very violent, isn't it?
0:18:59 > 0:19:02- I mean, do...- Yeah, there's a lot of action
0:19:02 > 0:19:03but actually it's very low-key.
0:19:03 > 0:19:07I only kill around 100 people in that film... LAUGHTER
0:19:07 > 0:19:08..which is low-key for my films, but...
0:19:08 > 0:19:11But that doesn't worry you that it sets a bad example?
0:19:11 > 0:19:13You know, the way they say violence breeds violence,
0:19:13 > 0:19:16people go to violent movies, they act violently...
0:19:16 > 0:19:20No, it's more in a very humorous way done.
0:19:20 > 0:19:23I mean, there is a lot of humour in the movie.
0:19:23 > 0:19:26There's action and adventure and there's other comic relief again
0:19:26 > 0:19:30and Commando, because of the combination, has done so well
0:19:30 > 0:19:33and has gone through the roof box office-wise overseas,
0:19:33 > 0:19:35in the United States and in other countries.
0:19:35 > 0:19:39I think it has the right combination of action, of violence
0:19:39 > 0:19:42and comic relief - that's the important thing.
0:19:42 > 0:19:44It's been, of course, compared to Rambo because it came out
0:19:44 > 0:19:45roughly the same time.
0:19:45 > 0:19:49I mean, how do you think it compares to that which was regarded
0:19:49 > 0:19:50as a very violent film?
0:19:50 > 0:19:54It's a very different film in many ways because like I said,
0:19:54 > 0:20:00our film has a lot of humour which I don't think Rambo has
0:20:00 > 0:20:03although Rambo is a good film.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04You cannot compare those two films
0:20:04 > 0:20:06because mine doesn't take place in the jungle,
0:20:06 > 0:20:08my fight scenes take place in Los Angeles.
0:20:08 > 0:20:11It's a different time period and on and on -
0:20:11 > 0:20:13and different actors are involved.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15I love my film but I'm prejudiced
0:20:15 > 0:20:19and I think that because of the great combination and the unique scenes
0:20:19 > 0:20:23that we have and the great action, it makes it a fantastic movie.
0:20:23 > 0:20:27How about the muscles, how do yours compare with Mr Stallone's?
0:20:27 > 0:20:31I let people decide for that. I mean, I'm the one that won all the titles
0:20:31 > 0:20:33so I don't have to defend myself.
0:20:33 > 0:20:37How do you think Sylvester Stallone would have done in a Mr Universe?
0:20:37 > 0:20:40Do you think he could compete as a body-builder?
0:20:40 > 0:20:42I think that he has a very good body
0:20:42 > 0:20:45and I think that what he has done in the last few years
0:20:45 > 0:20:47with his body is fantastic and I really admire that
0:20:47 > 0:20:50because he started out as really a skinny guy
0:20:50 > 0:20:53and he worked his way up to a good physique.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55I don't think that he ever will be able to compete
0:20:55 > 0:20:56in the body-building competition
0:20:56 > 0:20:59because he's not that developed,
0:20:59 > 0:21:02he's not that overly developed to be able to compete
0:21:02 > 0:21:03but he's good for films.
0:21:03 > 0:21:05He really looks believable as a hero
0:21:05 > 0:21:07so I think that he has done a fantastic job.
0:21:07 > 0:21:13With all that brawn, people, do they assume that there's no brain there?
0:21:13 > 0:21:15I hope so... LAUGHTER
0:21:15 > 0:21:19..because then they don't expect anything.
0:21:19 > 0:21:22I always felt it was a great advantage
0:21:22 > 0:21:25when people didn't expect you to be extra bright
0:21:25 > 0:21:28because anything you say, then they think it's fantastic.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30I remember when I did the first talk show in America.
0:21:30 > 0:21:33I was sitting there and after answering the first question,
0:21:33 > 0:21:36the host said to me, "I can't believe this -
0:21:36 > 0:21:38"This is fantastic. You can talk.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41"This is going to be a great interview,"
0:21:41 > 0:21:44so the guy was so happy about me being able to talk.
0:21:44 > 0:21:46I tell you, I never had really a problem with that
0:21:46 > 0:21:49because I think people in the United States and anywhere else
0:21:49 > 0:21:54know that I'm well-educated and that when you are a great athlete,
0:21:54 > 0:21:58it doesn't mean that you have a lack of brain or anything like that
0:21:58 > 0:22:01but athletics has that kind of a stereotype image,
0:22:01 > 0:22:03I agree with that.
0:22:03 > 0:22:05And he certainly showed as you can talk here tonight.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08- Thank you very much.- Nice to talk to you. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10Thank you, thank you. APPLAUSE
0:22:17 > 0:22:20Our next guest obviously isn't as muscly as Arnie
0:22:20 > 0:22:23or as heavily associated with film action
0:22:23 > 0:22:27but Michael Douglas has done his time in the odd nailbiter
0:22:27 > 0:22:29and when he came on the show,
0:22:29 > 0:22:31he made out that he was quite the stuntman.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35The truth of the matter is that stunts relax me.
0:22:35 > 0:22:37They take my mind off producing.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40The more dangerous stunts, I leave for the stuntmen
0:22:40 > 0:22:42but there are certain tricks that you know,
0:22:42 > 0:22:44for instance, you know how to strangle somebody.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- Certainly, I do.- Right, but to do it without hurting them?
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- No, I usually kill them.- Oh. - LAUGHTER
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- Well, for instance, if I was going to strangle you...- Steady.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- Hang on, I've got a show to do. - LAUGHTER
0:22:54 > 0:22:57..what I do is, you take your hands and you try to strangle yourself.
0:22:57 > 0:22:58- Right.- Right.
0:22:58 > 0:23:00No, take my hands
0:23:00 > 0:23:03and I pull them away and you push them down, you see?
0:23:03 > 0:23:06- Then we look like were hurting each other but were not.- We are, we are!
0:23:06 > 0:23:08LAUGHTER
0:23:09 > 0:23:12Anyway...
0:23:12 > 0:23:14One of the more frightening openings I've ever had to the show.
0:23:14 > 0:23:19Now, you were the classic Hollywood brat really.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21You grew up among the rich and the famous, didn't you?
0:23:21 > 0:23:26I mean, mixing with all those... Who was your first girlfriend?
0:23:26 > 0:23:29Did you have any people who have grown to fame ever since?
0:23:29 > 0:23:30Well, I remember on my...
0:23:30 > 0:23:31I mean, we should get it out right now -
0:23:31 > 0:23:34I am the illegitimate son of Burt Lancaster.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36I thought there was a family resemblance.
0:23:36 > 0:23:37Yeah, the dimple I've worked on for a while.
0:23:37 > 0:23:41Burt and my father were very close early on.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43I remember when I was 16,
0:23:43 > 0:23:47I was fortunate enough on my 16th birthday to have Hayley Mills...
0:23:47 > 0:23:48as my date...
0:23:48 > 0:23:50- and I remember... - LAUGHTER
0:23:50 > 0:23:53Hey, thank God you said, "as my date"...
0:23:53 > 0:23:55LAUGHTER
0:23:55 > 0:24:00Yes. Well, I had her as my date and it was...
0:24:00 > 0:24:02I remember that it was a great time
0:24:02 > 0:24:04- because I got to teach her how to twist...- Yeah.
0:24:04 > 0:24:07..and that was a very popular thing at that time.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10Was it difficult for you having a famous dad?
0:24:10 > 0:24:13- I think everybody's got problems, Terry.- No kidding.
0:24:13 > 0:24:16Mine were not insurmountable.
0:24:16 > 0:24:19I think it's difficult to get your own identity
0:24:19 > 0:24:24and I think all of my father's four sons have taken a little longer
0:24:24 > 0:24:26to find themselves.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28I'm still looking.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31It wasn't bad, he was great, yeah, he was a hard worker
0:24:31 > 0:24:35but he also assumed a lot of responsibility as a father.
0:24:35 > 0:24:39Did he give you a lot of advice starting out in the film business?
0:24:39 > 0:24:40And did you take it?
0:24:40 > 0:24:47Well, most of it would be hard to repeat on national television.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49He did, I mean, it basically went along the lines of
0:24:49 > 0:24:52you do your best efforts and after that, forget it.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54There's nothing more you can do.
0:24:54 > 0:25:00I think you learn most from watching rather than what people say.
0:25:00 > 0:25:03I think parents have a tendency to teach their children,
0:25:03 > 0:25:05they hear enough during the school hours
0:25:05 > 0:25:09and it's really them watching where they learn the most.
0:25:09 > 0:25:11My father was extremely hard-working,
0:25:11 > 0:25:14they used to make a lot more films in those days,
0:25:14 > 0:25:16he's made 70 pictures.
0:25:16 > 0:25:20The biggest thing I learned was to savour your successes,
0:25:20 > 0:25:23take your time - otherwise it just goes by so fast,
0:25:23 > 0:25:25you never have chance to enjoy it.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28- You do have a British connection, don't you?- Well, yes.
0:25:28 > 0:25:32I'm half English. My family is Bermudan.
0:25:32 > 0:25:37I just came back from Bermuda. As a matter of fact, my grandfather,
0:25:37 > 0:25:4150 years ago, was the Crown Solicitor of Bermuda.
0:25:41 > 0:25:46As a matter of fact, he was up here about 50 years ago receiving his appointment
0:25:46 > 0:25:51and he was accosted by a young woman on Piccadilly saying,
0:25:51 > 0:25:54- COCKNEY ACCENT:- "Hello, guv'nor. How about a little fling, guv'nor?"
0:25:54 > 0:25:56and my grandfather says,
0:25:56 > 0:25:59"My dear lady, do you have any idea who you are speaking to?"
0:25:59 > 0:26:01She says, "Well, no, guv'nor. I don't."
0:26:01 > 0:26:05He says, "Well, I happen to be the Crown Solicitor of Bermuda."
0:26:05 > 0:26:06She says, "Is that so?
0:26:06 > 0:26:08"Well, I'm the half-crown solicitor of Piccadilly."
0:26:10 > 0:26:13- So that was the...- It's the Douglas family joke.
0:26:13 > 0:26:15APPLAUSE
0:26:15 > 0:26:17Now, a real hero -
0:26:17 > 0:26:20Christopher Reeve became a big international star
0:26:20 > 0:26:24thanks to his role as Superman in the hugely successful film series
0:26:24 > 0:26:28but he was left paralysed after a terrible riding accident in the 1990s
0:26:28 > 0:26:32and he devoted the next decade to campaigning for more research
0:26:32 > 0:26:34into spinal-cord injuries
0:26:34 > 0:26:38before passing away at the age of 52.
0:26:38 > 0:26:42Here we see him just before his accident, in his prime -
0:26:42 > 0:26:47delightful company, clearly enjoying his life and his work.
0:26:47 > 0:26:49Will you go back and do Superman 4?
0:26:49 > 0:26:51Never say never again.
0:26:51 > 0:26:55- Yes, Sean Connery found that out, didn't he?- Yeah.
0:26:55 > 0:26:56So you can't make promises.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59The problem is that you can do James Bond, you send him
0:26:59 > 0:27:03to the health farm and play him at 50, whatever, but Superman -
0:27:03 > 0:27:06there's something about the paunch and the tights and the red boots
0:27:06 > 0:27:08- that really wouldn't make it. - LAUGHTER
0:27:08 > 0:27:11I think the statute of limitations has run out on my playing Superman
0:27:11 > 0:27:14- past about now.- Do you mean the old body is falling apart?
0:27:14 > 0:27:16I think maybe it is, yes.
0:27:16 > 0:27:22It's falling apart in that certain kind of macho muscle-builder way, you know?
0:27:22 > 0:27:27I didn't do anything heavier than lift a wine glass now, you know.
0:27:27 > 0:27:31- But did you have to work very hard at the pectorals?- Oh, God.
0:27:31 > 0:27:36Yeah, I was in the gym every night, seven days a week for two hours.
0:27:36 > 0:27:40And, just... A guy named Dave Prowse who's the green cross man...
0:27:40 > 0:27:43- Green goddess.- Right. - LAUGHTER
0:27:43 > 0:27:44No, that's someone else -
0:27:44 > 0:27:46I've seen her, she looks a lot better than Dave Prowse.
0:27:46 > 0:27:49Sometimes with Americans, I can get away with things like that
0:27:49 > 0:27:51but you're an Anglophile. You know what goes on here.
0:27:51 > 0:27:53- So he taught you how to get your body...- Yeah, he showed up...
0:27:53 > 0:27:55Were you a seven-stone weakling before that?
0:27:55 > 0:27:5813.5-stone weakling, yes
0:27:58 > 0:28:01but he showed up on the first day and said, "Right, do these,"
0:28:01 > 0:28:03and then he took another job and went off to Tunisia
0:28:03 > 0:28:06and later on, one day, he took the credit for it -
0:28:06 > 0:28:09deserved but nevertheless, I had to go to the gym and do all the work.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12It was something that I find really grotesque.
0:28:12 > 0:28:15I think a lot of sweaty guys staring at themselves in the mirror...
0:28:15 > 0:28:17LAUGHTER
0:28:19 > 0:28:21is, like, really disgusting so...
0:28:23 > 0:28:25I won't have any of that, I mean...
0:28:25 > 0:28:28- The old pumping iron. You didn't ever pump the iron?- No.
0:28:28 > 0:28:30I sail a boat and ski down a hill and fly a glider
0:28:30 > 0:28:33and I flew my plane across the ocean one time.
0:28:33 > 0:28:36I lost more weight flying my plane alone, meaning solo...
0:28:36 > 0:28:39Every time I say I flew my plane alone, they always say,
0:28:39 > 0:28:42"Who went with you?" I said, "No, alone, alone, across the Atlantic."
0:28:42 > 0:28:44Mind you, this wasn't Lindbergh
0:28:44 > 0:28:47but the sheer terror factor on a couple of legs of that trip -
0:28:47 > 0:28:50I lost my weight doing that than I ever did in gym.
0:28:50 > 0:28:55I was on a leg across from Iceland
0:28:55 > 0:28:59aiming for Glasgow via the Outer Hebrides.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02Everything was going well except I suddenly realised that
0:29:02 > 0:29:04three and a half hours out of a five-hour trip
0:29:04 > 0:29:06and the Outer Hebrides were not appearing
0:29:06 > 0:29:08anywhere near where they were supposed to
0:29:08 > 0:29:11and while I could hear Scottish control, they couldn't hear me
0:29:11 > 0:29:13and I suddenly thought, "I wonder..."
0:29:13 > 0:29:15Well, Europe's a big place, let's get out the map,
0:29:15 > 0:29:16let's see where we might be here.
0:29:16 > 0:29:18Anywhere on the board to win, right?
0:29:18 > 0:29:21So I took a look and said, "Well, maybe I went to Ireland.
0:29:21 > 0:29:25"Yeah, maybe I'm in Ireland." So I call up Irish control
0:29:25 > 0:29:28and sure enough, I'm 50 miles west of Shannon.
0:29:28 > 0:29:31I said, "Well, you know, the accent's a little different
0:29:31 > 0:29:33"but what the heck, I'll give it a try."
0:29:33 > 0:29:35So I went in and landed at Shannon and thought no more about it.
0:29:35 > 0:29:38However, the press was waiting in Glasgow
0:29:38 > 0:29:41and they'd had the TV crews out and they had the magazines and papers
0:29:41 > 0:29:45on the spot to catch Superman flying across the Atlantic,
0:29:45 > 0:29:46landing in Glasgow.
0:29:46 > 0:29:50When I missed and ended up in Ireland, they had a field day.
0:29:50 > 0:29:52- They took me apart. - LAUGHTER
0:29:53 > 0:29:55You do pursue the macho things though -
0:29:55 > 0:29:58the flying and all that stuff,
0:29:58 > 0:30:02even if the old muscles are beginning to collapse a bit.
0:30:02 > 0:30:05I didn't know that... Maybe flying is macho.
0:30:05 > 0:30:07I have never thought of it as such
0:30:07 > 0:30:14because macho to me is a deliberate flaunting of masculinity
0:30:14 > 0:30:18as a kind of way to keep women separate.
0:30:18 > 0:30:21I think that one of the things that's nice about flying,
0:30:21 > 0:30:24particularly flying antique planes that I do and gliders and stuff,
0:30:24 > 0:30:25is it brings people together.
0:30:25 > 0:30:28Flying is about families, it's about boyfriends and girlfriends,
0:30:28 > 0:30:31it's about taking your grandmother up - it's not a particularly...
0:30:31 > 0:30:35it's not that old flyboy from the war kind of thing any more.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37Would you like to see yourself in the leather thing
0:30:37 > 0:30:39- with the glasses and all?- I just did a movie as a matter of fact
0:30:39 > 0:30:43called The Aviator, in which I fly a 1926 Stearman.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46I think it's the first time that an actor's done his own flying.
0:30:46 > 0:30:49They used to let Steve McQueen drive his own motorcycle in his movies.
0:30:49 > 0:30:50So you do your own stunts?
0:30:50 > 0:30:52Yeah, I did everything except the part where it says,
0:30:52 > 0:30:56"It flies through the trees, the wings come off and it crashes in a heap."
0:30:56 > 0:30:58- I did everything except that bit, I let someone else do that.- Yeah.
0:30:58 > 0:31:01People do say that you're no fun any more, you won't try these things.
0:31:01 > 0:31:04- No, no. - LAUGHTER
0:31:04 > 0:31:07- I'm a dead bore.- It's a pleasure to meet you, Christopher.- OK.
0:31:07 > 0:31:09- Thank you for coming.- Thank you. - APPLAUSE
0:31:18 > 0:31:23We're staying in movie hero mode now for another musical break.
0:31:23 > 0:31:27They'd just recorded the theme from a new James Bond epic,
0:31:27 > 0:31:28A View To A Kill.
0:31:28 > 0:31:30It's Duran Duran.
0:31:30 > 0:31:32APPLAUSE
0:31:32 > 0:31:36MUSIC: A View To A Kill by Duran Duran
0:31:47 > 0:31:55# Meeting you with a view to a kill
0:31:55 > 0:32:01# Face to face in secret places, feel the chill
0:32:09 > 0:32:13# Nightfall covers me
0:32:13 > 0:32:17# But you know the plans I'm making
0:32:17 > 0:32:20# Still oversea
0:32:20 > 0:32:25# Could it be the whole Earth opening wide?
0:32:28 > 0:32:34# A sacred why, a mystery gaping inside
0:32:35 > 0:32:38# The weekend's why
0:32:38 > 0:32:43# Until we dance into the fire
0:32:43 > 0:32:47# That fatal kiss is all we need
0:32:47 > 0:32:51# Dance into the fire
0:32:51 > 0:32:55# To fatal sounds of broken dreams
0:32:55 > 0:32:59# Dance into the fire
0:32:59 > 0:33:03# That fatal kiss is all we need
0:33:03 > 0:33:08# Dance into the fire
0:33:19 > 0:33:26# Choice for you is the view to a kill
0:33:26 > 0:33:32# Between the shades, assassination standing still
0:33:41 > 0:33:44# First crystal tears
0:33:44 > 0:33:49# Fall as snowflakes on your body
0:33:49 > 0:33:52# First time in years
0:33:52 > 0:33:58# To drench your skin with lover's rosy stain
0:34:00 > 0:34:06# A chance to find a phoenix for the flame
0:34:07 > 0:34:10# A chance to die
0:34:10 > 0:34:15# But can we dance into the fire
0:34:15 > 0:34:19# That fatal kiss is all we need
0:34:19 > 0:34:23# Dance into the fire
0:34:23 > 0:34:27# To fatal sounds of broken dreams
0:34:27 > 0:34:30# Dance into the fire
0:34:30 > 0:34:35# That fatal kiss is all we need
0:34:35 > 0:34:38# Dance into the fire
0:34:38 > 0:34:45# When all we see is the view to a kill. #
0:34:59 > 0:35:01APPLAUSE
0:35:03 > 0:35:05It turned out that A View To A Kill
0:35:05 > 0:35:09was the final Bond film to star Roger Moore.
0:35:09 > 0:35:11At the time, that was sensitive information
0:35:11 > 0:35:15and like any good secret agent, Roger refused to reveal details
0:35:15 > 0:35:18even in the face of some self-interested interrogating
0:35:18 > 0:35:21from yours truly.
0:35:21 > 0:35:23- Now, is this your last James Bond movie?- Why, do you want the part?
0:35:23 > 0:35:26- I'd like it, please. - LAUGHTER
0:35:26 > 0:35:29- I would like a shot at it, sir. - You really would?
0:35:29 > 0:35:31Well, I have a letter here if I may read to you?
0:35:31 > 0:35:34- You may. Is it from Cubby? - No, it's not from Cubby,
0:35:34 > 0:35:36it's from Betty Collier.
0:35:36 > 0:35:38"You may wish to be considered for the part of James Bond
0:35:38 > 0:35:43"but how do you expect to cope with the athletic bedroom antics of 007
0:35:43 > 0:35:46- "with your bad back?" - LAUGHTER
0:35:46 > 0:35:50"Don't you think such feats would be beyond your capabilities?"
0:35:50 > 0:35:51Is it terrifically athletic?
0:35:51 > 0:35:54Well, you can get doubles to do that sort of thing, you know.
0:35:54 > 0:35:55You don't though, do you?
0:35:55 > 0:35:57LAUGHTER
0:35:57 > 0:35:59- The truth.- For the love scenes, yes.
0:35:59 > 0:36:02- Oh - but for the athletic bits, is that you?- Oh!
0:36:02 > 0:36:03That's me, I do all that.
0:36:03 > 0:36:04LAUGHTER
0:36:04 > 0:36:06All those stunts -
0:36:06 > 0:36:08there's a fantastic stunt at the beginning of the movie, skiing.
0:36:08 > 0:36:10That's you?
0:36:10 > 0:36:12- Well, of course it is.- All over Siberia, on one ski.
0:36:12 > 0:36:14Yeah. LAUGHTER
0:36:16 > 0:36:19And what about hanging off the Golden Gate Bridge, that's you?
0:36:19 > 0:36:21Well, of course it is.
0:36:21 > 0:36:23- What you see, you believe, don't you?- Yeah.
0:36:23 > 0:36:25Right. You believe it.
0:36:25 > 0:36:26You'll believe anything.
0:36:26 > 0:36:28LAUGHTER
0:36:28 > 0:36:29Yeah. You're not...
0:36:30 > 0:36:35One of the reasons you might be thinking of making way for a younger man is...
0:36:35 > 0:36:37LAUGHTER
0:36:37 > 0:36:41..you're not getting a bit long in the tooth?
0:36:41 > 0:36:44He's charming, isn't he? LAUGHTER
0:36:44 > 0:36:48It's just that the book portrays Bond in his mid-30s.
0:36:48 > 0:36:49It doesn't portray him as anything.
0:36:49 > 0:36:52Well, he's supposed to be in his mid-30s
0:36:52 > 0:36:54and I'm closer to my mid-30s than you.
0:36:54 > 0:36:55LAUGHTER
0:36:55 > 0:36:58- Not much.- Well, you can stretch the imagination
0:36:58 > 0:37:01but the whole age thing is one that I was surprised to hear
0:37:01 > 0:37:06in television. You get it in the press in England, I've noticed.
0:37:06 > 0:37:08They can never report anything, you know...
0:37:08 > 0:37:11"A housewife was arrested for shoplifting.
0:37:11 > 0:37:14"Mrs Brown, 48, of Morden..."
0:37:14 > 0:37:16You know, it's always age, isn't it?
0:37:16 > 0:37:19If it goes into television, they will probably...
0:37:19 > 0:37:23You know, the royal premiere on Wednesday
0:37:23 > 0:37:26and I can see Judith Chalmers will be saying,
0:37:26 > 0:37:29"Oh, yes, the Prince of Wales, 34...
0:37:29 > 0:37:31LAUGHTER
0:37:31 > 0:37:34"is coming with his wife, the Princess of Wales, 22,
0:37:34 > 0:37:36"in their four-year-old Bentley,
0:37:36 > 0:37:39"driven by a 29-year-old chauffeur...
0:37:39 > 0:37:41Everywhere, it's hysterical.
0:37:41 > 0:37:42I love your attitude to film.
0:37:42 > 0:37:45Whenever I've seen you interviewed, not this kind of interview,
0:37:45 > 0:37:47but you seem so relaxed about the whole thing.
0:37:47 > 0:37:50Your attitude to Bond is much different, say,
0:37:50 > 0:37:53to Sean Connery's as an approach.
0:37:53 > 0:37:58Well, you know, I came into it after he was very well established
0:37:58 > 0:38:01and obviously, I couldn't play it in the same way
0:38:01 > 0:38:03and so I had to have a different approach
0:38:03 > 0:38:07and I'm a lighter sort of actor than Sean.
0:38:07 > 0:38:10How did you categorise... Did you think a great deal
0:38:10 > 0:38:12about how you were going to approach this part?
0:38:12 > 0:38:14Did you attempt to motivate yourself?
0:38:14 > 0:38:18- Well, I thought about the money... - Sort of method school of acting stuff...
0:38:18 > 0:38:21- Just the money, eh? - No, no, no.
0:38:21 > 0:38:26My only worry ever about doing it was - you know,
0:38:26 > 0:38:30the comparison with Sean - was that I would say to myself,
0:38:30 > 0:38:34"My name is Bond, James Bond," and then that I would hear it in my mind,
0:38:34 > 0:38:37SCOTTISH ACCENT: "My name is Bond, James Bond."
0:38:37 > 0:38:41Mustn't do that, very difficult. LAUGHTER
0:38:41 > 0:38:44Have you changed the role at all?
0:38:44 > 0:38:47Are you playing it exactly the same way each time?
0:38:47 > 0:38:49I think we've injected a little more humour.
0:38:49 > 0:38:52Yeah, it seems to me to be more and more for laughs
0:38:52 > 0:38:54and more and more enormous effects.
0:38:54 > 0:38:57Well, you see, Bond films are so outrageous,
0:38:57 > 0:39:01the stunts are so outrageous, everything is beyond belief.
0:39:01 > 0:39:04I mean, there is no such thing as a spy who can walk
0:39:04 > 0:39:07anywhere in the world and have every bartender recognise him and say,
0:39:07 > 0:39:09"Ah, Mr Bond - a vodka martini, shaken not stirred."
0:39:09 > 0:39:11Spies aren't like that, are they?
0:39:11 > 0:39:13LAUGHTER
0:39:14 > 0:39:19They're unknown faces that would pass in a crowd and not be noticed,
0:39:19 > 0:39:22real spies. So you might be good for the part. No, anyway...
0:39:22 > 0:39:24LAUGHTER & APPLAUSE
0:39:26 > 0:39:27Thank you. On my side!
0:39:30 > 0:39:32I've said this before, like women,
0:39:32 > 0:39:35my audience is the most fickle crowd you'll ever meet.
0:39:35 > 0:39:41- They'd turn on me like cornered rats.- No, it's not true.
0:39:41 > 0:39:43Do you still get fun making movies?
0:39:43 > 0:39:46You obviously take a lot of fun out of life.
0:39:46 > 0:39:49Well, you'd be a bit of a nit not to get fun.
0:39:49 > 0:39:53I mean, I go, I get overpaid for acting like an overpaid schoolboy.
0:39:53 > 0:39:54It's ridiculous.
0:39:54 > 0:39:57But some actors do get paid more than you get paid and take it...
0:39:57 > 0:39:59WHO?
0:39:59 > 0:40:01LAUGHTER
0:40:01 > 0:40:02Which ones?
0:40:02 > 0:40:05..take it deeply seriously, don't they?
0:40:05 > 0:40:06It depends what you're doing.
0:40:06 > 0:40:11The sort of thing I do, I can't work in a tight, closed atmosphere.
0:40:11 > 0:40:15I like it to be relaxed and have fun, and enjoy myself.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17And finally, Leslie Nielsen,
0:40:17 > 0:40:20who deadpanned his way through the Naked Gun films
0:40:20 > 0:40:26playing a tough guy cop with as much sense as an aardvark.
0:40:26 > 0:40:30Leslie kept a mostly straight face during his visit to the show -
0:40:30 > 0:40:34a different story for myself and the studio audience.
0:40:34 > 0:40:36You became a star with Airplane.
0:40:36 > 0:40:39Did the fan mail increase and everything?
0:40:39 > 0:40:41Not really. Everything just continued,
0:40:41 > 0:40:45I did my job and what's happening now with The Naked Gun apparently,
0:40:45 > 0:40:49it's becoming so extraordinarily well-received and it's really
0:40:49 > 0:40:52as funny as Airplane - I think it's funnier, frankly.
0:40:52 > 0:40:55Things may change now but I've been very happy with my life
0:40:55 > 0:40:57up to this point and it doesn't make any difference.
0:40:57 > 0:40:59- The fame is not going to change you? - Not a bit.
0:40:59 > 0:41:03You're not going to turn into pompous old Leslie Nielsen, are you?
0:41:03 > 0:41:06Well, I have to watch my image, that's very important, you know.
0:41:06 > 0:41:09- Of course.- I mean, I'm always associated with being a man
0:41:09 > 0:41:13who has a background, an education and I'm well-mannered and I have to...
0:41:13 > 0:41:16- HE PRETENDS TO FART - protect that image...
0:41:16 > 0:41:19- Don't you think?- Certainly. - LAUGHTER
0:41:19 > 0:41:21I think that's tremendously important.
0:41:21 > 0:41:23The image is terribly important to a film star.
0:41:23 > 0:41:25I'm glad you agree with me, it's very important.
0:41:25 > 0:41:27- It is.- Yes.
0:41:27 > 0:41:30- Now, moving right along.- Yes. - LAUGHTER
0:41:30 > 0:41:32- Shall we keep on going?- Yes.
0:41:32 > 0:41:34Now, you're...
0:41:34 > 0:41:37- Yes? - LAUGHTER
0:41:37 > 0:41:38You're...
0:41:38 > 0:41:41We came here to have fun, didn't we?
0:41:45 > 0:41:47- Now, look, just a minute.- Yes?
0:41:47 > 0:41:49- This is not going as I anticipated. - Is it not? Really?
0:41:49 > 0:41:52- No.- Oh.- I'm having to sit further away from you for a start.
0:41:52 > 0:41:54LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:41:54 > 0:41:57- Now, look...- Should we start over again?
0:41:57 > 0:41:59- No, no.- I'll go off...
0:41:59 > 0:42:01- You might do it again. - Well, all right.
0:42:01 > 0:42:04I will, believe me!
0:42:04 > 0:42:05Now, look -
0:42:05 > 0:42:08you wouldn't think it but you're 63 tomorrow, I know that.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11- How did you know that?- I'm well-informed about that.- Yeah.
0:42:11 > 0:42:13- Bring on the cake! - APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:42:13 > 0:42:15MUSIC: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
0:42:20 > 0:42:21Good Lord!
0:42:29 > 0:42:31- We thought we...- How nice.
0:42:31 > 0:42:33..we couldn't have a man of your standing here
0:42:33 > 0:42:36- and not have a cake of sorts.- Yes.
0:42:36 > 0:42:37It's a simple little thing,
0:42:37 > 0:42:40it's an airplane coming up through the clouds.
0:42:40 > 0:42:43- And we have a knife also.- We have a knife, oh, yes.- Yes.
0:42:43 > 0:42:45We have everything here
0:42:45 > 0:42:51and if I can just prise the thing free, I'll even cut you a slice.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54- You will?- Yeah. We don't stint here...
0:42:54 > 0:42:56- Are you cutting me a slice? - HE PRETENDS TO FART
0:42:56 > 0:42:58LAUGHTER
0:42:58 > 0:43:00I'm... Of course.
0:43:05 > 0:43:09Do you know, I wondered why they called you a society entertainer.
0:43:12 > 0:43:15- A slice of cake, some cake... - Awfully kind of you.
0:43:15 > 0:43:19- I'm grateful, thank you deeply. - Yeah, you look as fit as a flea.
0:43:19 > 0:43:23- I mean, do you do any special exercises for that?- Not really.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29- Just try to avoid tension is all. - Of course!
0:43:31 > 0:43:35Now, if that's not a showstopper, I don't know what is.
0:43:35 > 0:43:39Make sure you join me for some more nuggets of nostalgia next time.
0:43:39 > 0:43:41Till then, bye-bye.
0:43:41 > 0:43:43JAZZY MUSIC