Geraint Jarman

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0:00:04 > 0:00:06- # Bourgeois rock

0:00:08 > 0:00:10- # Ooh, ooh

0:00:11 > 0:00:12- # Bourgeois rock #

0:00:13 > 0:00:15- Bourgeois rock!

0:00:19 > 0:00:21- Yeah.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25- I'll keep playing - with the monitoring.

0:00:26 > 0:00:30- GERAINT JARMAN - ONE OF WALES' - MOST- - CONS

0:00:30 > 0:00:34- INTERVIEWS WITH GERAINT ARE RARE

0:00:34 > 0:00:36- # It's neat, it's neat, it's neat

0:00:36 > 0:00:39- # I really love your tiger feet

0:00:40 > 0:00:42- # Your tiger feet, joop! #

0:00:44 > 0:00:47- SINCE 1976 HE'S EXPERIMENTED - WITH VARIOUS MUSICAL STYLES

0:00:48 > 0:00:52- IN 2014 HE WAS MAKING - HIS FIFTEENTH ALBUM

0:00:55 > 0:00:57- I still write every day.

0:00:57 > 0:01:02- I can gauge how I am mentally, - psychologically and so on.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06- If I continue playing guitar - and writing...

0:01:06 > 0:01:09- ..on a daily basis...

0:01:09 > 0:01:12- ..I'm at peace with the world.

0:01:15 > 0:01:20- It's the one thing in my life - I haven't got fed up of...

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- ..at all.

0:01:38 > 0:01:42- Later, one of the giants of the - Welsh music scene will be here...

0:01:42 > 0:01:46- ..to talk about his latest album, - Dwyn Yr Hogyn Nol.

0:01:46 > 0:01:51- This is Geraint Jarman's 15th album - since 1976's Gobaith Mawr Y Ganrif.

0:01:51 > 0:01:55- He's still as relevant today - as he was back then.

0:01:55 > 0:02:00- Looking forward to that. Here's - a song from the brilliant new album.

0:02:03 > 0:02:07- # Salamander sandwich spread #

0:02:07 > 0:02:12- People remember you - for songs such as...

0:02:12 > 0:02:16- ..Ethiopia Newydd, Gwesty Cymru...

0:02:17 > 0:02:20- ..Tacsi I'r Tywyllwch - and stuff like this.

0:02:23 > 0:02:27- Sometimes people are surprised - when they meet you...

0:02:27 > 0:02:31- ..because you're not the person - they expect you to be.

0:02:35 > 0:02:39- This is the first - album review I've ever had...

0:02:39 > 0:02:42- ..in a British newspaper.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45- It says here...

0:02:45 > 0:02:49- "The Clough stage is a hotspot - for Welsh-language bands...

0:02:49 > 0:02:54- "..where Jarman shows why he's a - legend of a scene he helped create.

0:02:54 > 0:03:00- "At 64, he remains - a jerky, wiry performer...

0:03:00 > 0:03:05- "..with an excellent band, mixing - overdriven rock guitars, reggae...

0:03:05 > 0:03:08- "..and tuneful punk snarl.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11- "When he equates - Ethiopia and Cymru...

0:03:11 > 0:03:16- "..you don't need to speak - his language to know how he feels."

0:03:16 > 0:03:21- That's good, isn't it? He's done - his homework. He knows how old I am.

0:03:21 > 0:03:23- Great!

0:03:51 > 0:03:53- Right up.

0:03:53 > 0:03:55- Right up.- - And the mono...

0:03:55 > 0:03:57- Oh, wow.

0:03:57 > 0:03:58- Oh, wow.- - And then both.

0:04:08 > 0:04:10- Wow. How poignant!

0:04:11 > 0:04:14- But also kind of shit - at the same time.

0:04:18 > 0:04:19- I like it. Alright.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21- Here we go.

0:04:24 > 0:04:28- I've been working on this album - for two and a half years.

0:04:28 > 0:04:32- It's entitled Dwyn Yr Hogyn Nol - (Bring The Boy Back).

0:04:34 > 0:04:36- # Watch Jericho's walls

0:04:37 > 0:04:39- # They're tumbling down

0:04:39 > 0:04:43- # In the gentle breeze

0:04:43 > 0:04:46- # Oh, I want to bring the boy back

0:04:46 > 0:04:49- # Bring the boy back home

0:04:53 > 0:04:55- # I want to bring the boy back

0:04:55 > 0:04:59- # Bring the boy back home #

0:05:05 > 0:05:11- I'm currently writing a book - about my childhood...

0:05:11 > 0:05:14- ..in Riverside.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20- The working title - is The Coldstream and the Terrace.

0:05:21 > 0:05:26- It's about a boy growing up here - in Cardiff in the '50s and '60s.

0:05:27 > 0:05:30- When I was a child, we had a gang.

0:05:30 > 0:05:35- There were five of us. - We'd have sugar sandwiches and pop.

0:05:35 > 0:05:40- We'd go out to play along Mark - Street and up towards the river.

0:05:40 > 0:05:44- Up there, right at the top...

0:05:44 > 0:05:46- I have to explain this.

0:05:47 > 0:05:53- The Glamorgan Cricket team played - on the other side of the river.

0:05:53 > 0:05:57- We'd watch the games - through binoculars...

0:05:57 > 0:05:59- ..from a distance.

0:05:59 > 0:06:02- We could see the crease - and the scoreboard.

0:06:02 > 0:06:07- I used to play football here - - we'd kick a ball against the wall...

0:06:07 > 0:06:11- ..until the guy indoors got - so fed up of us, we'd have to move.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17- It still feels odd coming down here.

0:06:17 > 0:06:21- There was a time - when I couldn't come at all.

0:06:21 > 0:06:26- When I left here, - about a month later...

0:06:27 > 0:06:30- ..my best friend, David Reid, died.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33- He was going to school...

0:06:33 > 0:06:35- I'm going to stop here now...

0:06:35 > 0:06:39- ..because this used to be our house, - 35 Brook Street.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43- It looks a bit odd now...

0:06:44 > 0:06:47- ..but David was killed - whilst cycling to school.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- A lorry reversed into him.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53- We'd just left the house.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56- I remember going to the funeral.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59- The coffin was very small.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03- I cried a lot.

0:07:03 > 0:07:08- I didn't understand what was - going on in terms of my emotions.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11- I couldn't come here after that.

0:07:11 > 0:07:17- It was as if that time in my life - had been buried with David.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- I couldn't rationalise it at all.

0:07:35 > 0:07:38- I didn't like school.

0:07:38 > 0:07:40- I played truant a lot.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43- I liked being a naughty boy.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47- I had an attitude problem.

0:07:51 > 0:07:55- I had nothing against the teachers, - it was just a problem of mine.

0:07:55 > 0:08:00- Writing poetry - was a creative outlet.

0:08:10 > 0:08:12- We're about to record...

0:08:13 > 0:08:16- ..a song called Be Nei Di, Janis? - (What Will You Do, Janis?)

0:08:18 > 0:08:21- I knew Janis when I was 14.

0:08:21 > 0:08:23- She came from Pwllheli.

0:08:29 > 0:08:31- We were good friends.

0:08:31 > 0:08:35- We had lots of fun.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38- Life was full of sunshine back then.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41- # And I still see the light

0:08:42 > 0:08:47- # In the sky, the two of us - in the big, wide world

0:08:47 > 0:08:52- # Walking up Mount Snowdon - and running down

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- # And a choir of her friends shout

0:08:56 > 0:08:58- # What will you do, Janis?

0:08:58 > 0:09:00- # Tell me, what will you do, Janis?

0:09:03 > 0:09:05- # Hey, now #

0:09:19 > 0:09:21- That's just after that...

0:09:22 > 0:09:24- ..you could drop me in, da-da-da.

0:09:24 > 0:09:28- Yes, that's the cue. - After da-da-da-da-dum.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32- # Hey, now she's so pretty

0:09:32 > 0:09:36- # I thought I'd write like a poet

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- # While searching - for the perfect metaphor

0:09:41 > 0:09:42- # For my life

0:09:43 > 0:09:46- # It's half past two - and something's wrong

0:09:46 > 0:09:50- # Do you know what, - she turns and walks away... #

0:09:53 > 0:09:57- Myself and David R Edwards - of Datblygu were talking about...

0:09:57 > 0:09:59- ..writing lyrics and reading them.

0:09:59 > 0:10:03- So I'm kind of in trepidation - but I'm looking forward to it.

0:10:03 > 0:10:07- I wish I was just here - eating the lobster.

0:10:10 > 0:10:12- Are you still in pain?

0:10:12 > 0:10:18- It's OK. I still have back pain - but it's not nerve pain.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20- So...?

0:10:20 > 0:10:24- It was down here in the lumbar.

0:10:24 > 0:10:26- The lumbar region.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29- Sometimes - I'd have to take liquid morphine.

0:10:29 > 0:10:32- But it used to really space me out!

0:10:34 > 0:10:37- I'm playing Can i Gymry - before David comes on.

0:10:37 > 0:10:41- Are you happy for me to play - one of your tracks over the PA...

0:10:41 > 0:10:43- ..before you come on?

0:10:43 > 0:10:47- I have your box set, - so every song is an option.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49- What about I've Arrived?

0:10:49 > 0:10:50- No, not that one.

0:10:50 > 0:10:53- No, not that one.- - Too bloody obvious!

0:10:53 > 0:10:56- Can I just play...? - What about Gwesty Cymru?

0:10:56 > 0:10:59- Yes, OK. Just a bit of it.

0:10:59 > 0:11:03- I'll read - either Syd Ar Gitar or Cwd.

0:11:04 > 0:11:05- Alright, OK.

0:11:06 > 0:11:08- It's a dub poem.

0:11:08 > 0:11:09- I'll see how the time goes.

0:11:09 > 0:11:11- I'll see how the time goes.- - It'd be great to hear that.

0:11:11 > 0:11:14- Right at the end, - I'll light some fireworks.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- I've lived life to the full so far.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23- I think you have to enjoy life.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27- I've reached the depths - and I've reached the heights...

0:11:27 > 0:11:31- ..but I'm now on an even keel...

0:11:31 > 0:11:35- ..with the help - of medication and doctors...

0:11:35 > 0:11:38- ..but I can be creative again now, - which is a relief.

0:11:40 > 0:11:45- I may not be as crazy - as I was when I was young...

0:11:45 > 0:11:48- ..but I still try to dance on stage.

0:11:48 > 0:11:52- You know I play guitar every day.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55- I get an idea for a song.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58- I don't like being without it.

0:11:58 > 0:12:02- I like the Geraint who does that.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04- Exactly.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07- It's not quite like a job, - it's more than that.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11- It's part of you, - and that's the thing.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13- APPLAUSE

0:12:13 > 0:12:18- You say in the book that - writing songs can be frustrating...

0:12:18 > 0:12:23- ..compared to writing poetry.

0:12:23 > 0:12:29- You don't want to put - too many complex things in a song...

0:12:29 > 0:12:34- ..because it's instantly targeted - at the audience.

0:12:34 > 0:12:38- You can see if people like it.

0:12:38 > 0:12:42- Over time, - I've learned how to do that.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46- But I also believe...

0:12:49 > 0:12:53- ..the subject matter - is what's important.

0:12:54 > 0:12:57- "A ghetto with make-up, - it's easy to see the pain

0:12:58 > 0:13:00- "It's written - on the bay's surface and tongue

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- "Running from the dykes - and the toilet seats

0:13:03 > 0:13:06- "Running from the traffic - and the dog in the field

0:13:06 > 0:13:09- "A ghetto with make-up, - it's easy to see the pain

0:13:09 > 0:13:13- "Remembering the bloodshed - and the knives of the enslaved

0:13:13 > 0:13:16- "Reminiscing about history - and days of yore

0:13:16 > 0:13:19- "Remembering the departure - like a bow and arrow

0:13:19 > 0:13:22- "The attention of the tuneful - and the words of the greedy

0:13:23 > 0:13:26- "The kiss of Madonna - in her red lipstick

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- "China's bronze melody - expressing the words

0:13:30 > 0:13:34- "The beat of the Amun, - like a kiss on the cheek."

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0:13:52 > 0:13:54- # Tacsi I'r Tywyllwch #

0:14:04 > 0:14:07- # I have to stand on my own two feet

0:14:08 > 0:14:11- # It's better than being underhanded

0:14:11 > 0:14:14- # Through the fat and thin, - keeping resolutions

0:14:15 > 0:14:17- # Everyone's on his own heap

0:14:20 > 0:14:24- # Ah-ah-ah

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- # La-la-la-la-la-la

0:14:28 > 0:14:32- # Ah-ah-ah

0:14:34 > 0:14:36- # A taxi to the darkness

0:14:38 > 0:14:40- # A taxi to the darkness

0:14:41 > 0:14:43- # A taxi to the darkness #

0:14:46 > 0:14:51- My song writing developed after - I gave up writing poetry, in a way.

0:14:52 > 0:14:55- It more or less replaced the poetry.

0:14:56 > 0:15:02- By now, the performing has become - a natural part of the writing.

0:15:04 > 0:15:06- But it wasn't in the beginning.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09- Performing wasn't the plan. - I was against it.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11- I was afraid of performing.

0:15:11 > 0:15:14- ROCK MUSIC

0:15:25 > 0:15:29- I think I wore shades - in the beginning...

0:15:30 > 0:15:32- ..because I didn't want...

0:15:34 > 0:15:37- ..the audience to see me.

0:15:37 > 0:15:42- I think it was because - I was so nervous.

0:15:42 > 0:15:48- Many of my heroes, - especially Bob Dylan...

0:15:50 > 0:15:53- ..wore shades.

0:15:53 > 0:15:56- One good thing...

0:15:56 > 0:15:59- ..about performing years ago...

0:15:59 > 0:16:03- ..was that - I'd dance all over the place...

0:16:03 > 0:16:05- ..and wear myself out.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09- So what I'd do - was stand in front of the mic...

0:16:09 > 0:16:11- ..and sing the songs without moving.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- Sometimes I'd close my eyes - and no-one would see me.

0:16:16 > 0:16:20- I'd sing - and relax the rest of the time.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- It was great...

0:16:24 > 0:16:27- ..because no-one - could see me snoozing.

0:16:27 > 0:16:31- I wasn't sleeping, - I was merely conserving my energy.

0:16:41 > 0:16:43- When reggae started...

0:16:43 > 0:16:47- ..all these albums - were being released.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- Wow! There was a real spark there.

0:16:51 > 0:16:55- Before that, I liked - country and western and rock.

0:16:56 > 0:16:58- Bands like Talking Heads and so on.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00- But reggae got a real hold of me.

0:17:01 > 0:17:06- I was living in Cardiff and I had - friends who lived in the docks.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09- It was - all they played at the time too.

0:17:13 > 0:17:16- Reggae music is a political medium, - in a sense...

0:17:17 > 0:17:19- ..because it's music of struggle.

0:17:19 > 0:17:23- We just want to play - our vision to it.

0:17:23 > 0:17:27- Is that one of the reasons - you just sing in Welsh?

0:17:27 > 0:17:29- Yes.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33- It would be not worthwhile - for me to sing in English...

0:17:33 > 0:17:38- ..because my message is - all tied in with my own culture...

0:17:39 > 0:17:41- ..and it can only apply - to that culture.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- We got the people show - rolling and rolling...

0:17:45 > 0:17:47- ..to keep you happy and swinging.

0:17:48 > 0:17:51- Right about now I want you - to put your hands together...

0:17:52 > 0:17:58- ..and welcome on stage Cardiff's own - really Welsh-based band called...

0:17:58 > 0:18:00- ..Geraint Jarman, let's hear it.

0:18:02 > 0:18:04- Boom!

0:18:20 > 0:18:23- # Watch out, the world is calling

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- # Blood on bodies of the slaves #

0:18:28 > 0:18:31- It's the music of objectors, - in a way, you know.

0:18:34 > 0:18:38- It talks about social conditions - and things like that.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42- Mistreatment and things like this.

0:18:42 > 0:18:44- Not being accepted.

0:18:44 > 0:18:48- They completely understood - the Welsh language's situation.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50- They could see...

0:18:51 > 0:18:55- ..because back then, - Cardiff wasn't bilingual.

0:18:55 > 0:19:00- So they were very comfortable...

0:19:00 > 0:19:04- ..with the message - I was trying to convey.

0:19:15 > 0:19:18- We're here in Mount Stuart Square.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22- There used to be - a Welsh chapel over here.

0:19:24 > 0:19:27- Over the years, - the place deteriorated...

0:19:28 > 0:19:30- ..and people started to leave.

0:19:30 > 0:19:35- It was turned into a nightclub - called Casablanca in the 1960s.

0:19:38 > 0:19:42- The Cynganeddwyr - played here several times.

0:19:42 > 0:19:44- It was an important time.

0:19:44 > 0:19:49- We used to come here, - even if we weren't performing...

0:19:50 > 0:19:52- ..for the atmosphere and the reggae.

0:20:07 > 0:20:10- I remember writing Ethiopia Newydd.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14- I had lots of notebooks.

0:20:14 > 0:20:19- I wrote - most of the words at the bus stop...

0:20:19 > 0:20:22- ..and then on the bus.

0:20:22 > 0:20:27- I had to carry these songs with me, - on a journey.

0:20:34 > 0:20:36- This is new song.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40- # Please, Mr Parsons, - can I call you Gram?

0:20:41 > 0:20:45- HE STARTS AD-LIBBING

0:20:45 > 0:20:49- # Hi-de-ho...

0:20:59 > 0:21:02- # By the sea...

0:21:03 > 0:21:07- # Please, Mr Parsons, - can I call you Gram?

0:21:12 > 0:21:16- # Yodel-eh-ee

0:21:16 > 0:21:20- # Yodel-eh-ee

0:21:21 > 0:21:24- # Yodel-eh-ee

0:21:24 > 0:21:29- # Hey, moh #

0:21:29 > 0:21:31- This is where I work every day.

0:21:31 > 0:21:36- I do some amount of work - every night...

0:21:36 > 0:21:40- ..because everyone goes to bed - and I stay up...

0:21:41 > 0:21:43- ..until 2.30am or 3.00am.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45- But this is where I write.

0:21:46 > 0:21:50- This is one of my guitars. - It's a Godin and comes from Canada.

0:21:51 > 0:21:55- Peredur ap Gwynedd - chose this guitar for me.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- It's a Godin Acousticaster.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01- You can play it acoustically...

0:22:02 > 0:22:05- ..or you can plug it in...

0:22:05 > 0:22:07- ..and get different sounds from it.

0:22:08 > 0:22:11- But I have three guitars.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- This one, an Epiphone acoustic...

0:22:15 > 0:22:18- ..and I have - a Walden acoustic guitar too.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22- # I was thinking about - something strange

0:22:25 > 0:22:27- # I'm the fool

0:22:27 > 0:22:30- # I know full well

0:22:32 > 0:22:36- # Because I believed your lies

0:22:38 > 0:22:40- # I'm the fool

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- # I know full well

0:22:44 > 0:22:48- # Because you stole

0:22:48 > 0:22:51- # My inspiration #

0:22:51 > 0:22:54- Excuse my voice.

0:22:57 > 0:23:00- Total effing chaos, Geraint Jarman.

0:23:04 > 0:23:08- Songs come to me - in many different ways.

0:23:09 > 0:23:14- What's strange is that I don't - remember writing these songs.

0:23:14 > 0:23:18- It's common - for many songwriters I speak to.

0:23:18 > 0:23:21- I don't quite remember...

0:23:22 > 0:23:24- ..how songs come about.

0:23:25 > 0:23:27- Throughout the 1970s...

0:23:27 > 0:23:29- ..I'd lose songs...

0:23:30 > 0:23:34- ..because they'd come to me late - at night or at inconvenient times.

0:23:34 > 0:23:38- Technology was advancing...

0:23:38 > 0:23:40- ..and we had a bit of money.

0:23:40 > 0:23:44- In the Sony shop, - I came across this.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48- I bought it - at the beginning of the '80s.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51- I thought, - 'That does the job. It's fantastic.'

0:23:52 > 0:23:54- You carry it around with you...

0:23:54 > 0:23:57- ..and it's there - whenever you get an idea.

0:23:57 > 0:24:02- The trouble was, whenever I - carried it, ideas never came to me!

0:24:02 > 0:24:04- Or I'd left it in the car.

0:24:05 > 0:24:07- You know?

0:24:07 > 0:24:09- Thank you, Mr Sony.

0:24:15 > 0:24:19- It's weird, you may not - make much money out of it...

0:24:20 > 0:24:24- ..but what you get out of it - is worthwhile.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29- I met this woman who said...

0:24:29 > 0:24:34- .."I listen to your music - every day," and then walked away.

0:24:34 > 0:24:37- Aargh! What do you do?

0:24:37 > 0:24:40- I wanted to give her a kiss.

0:24:40 > 0:24:44- I said, "That's great. - Thank you very much!"

0:24:44 > 0:24:46- Hilarious.

0:24:48 > 0:24:49- .

0:24:53 > 0:24:53- Subtitles

0:24:53 > 0:24:55- Subtitles- - Subtitles

0:25:19 > 0:25:22- The new album's being released soon.

0:25:22 > 0:25:27- We've been working on it - for more than two years.

0:25:28 > 0:25:31- The new band - - Peredur, Pete Hurley...

0:25:31 > 0:25:34- ..Tim on the drums...

0:25:34 > 0:25:36- ..and Frank on the keyboards...

0:25:36 > 0:25:40- ..are very different - from the Cynganeddwyr.

0:25:41 > 0:25:44- They produce - a different sound, naturally.

0:25:45 > 0:25:49- Peredur's led the way. - He's made a huge contribution.

0:25:50 > 0:25:56- But every member of the new band - are incredible musicians.

0:25:58 > 0:26:01- There was one of them - I just couldn't work out.

0:26:01 > 0:26:04- The one - with the crazy notes at the end.

0:26:06 > 0:26:08- They're just random notes.

0:26:08 > 0:26:11- You can do what you like. - Just make a racket.

0:26:12 > 0:26:15- I was having real problems - getting the chords.

0:26:15 > 0:26:17- After that, it's kind of strange.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23- All the others, - I think I'm alright with.

0:26:26 > 0:26:28- Do you know, - I miss the sound of the drums.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32- Could do. - That sort of snare drummy thing.

0:26:32 > 0:26:34- DRUMBEAT

0:26:41 > 0:26:44- I married young. - I was about 19 years of age.

0:26:44 > 0:26:48- I became a father at 19 too.

0:26:50 > 0:26:55- I had to be responsible, - and I was a very responsible person.

0:26:55 > 0:27:00- Heather and I - tend to write songs on our own.

0:27:00 > 0:27:05- Heather writes songs - like Gwrando Ar Fy Nghan.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08- I went to - the College of Music and Drama...

0:27:08 > 0:27:15- ..but I also had to - pay the mortgage and buy food.

0:27:15 > 0:27:17- I was strait-laced...

0:27:18 > 0:27:20- ..for a long time.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33- I've been lucky because I've had - a second chance in life.

0:27:33 > 0:27:37- A lot of people - don't have a second chance.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40- I had second a chance - to meet someone.

0:27:44 > 0:27:47- There was a gap - of almost five years...

0:27:48 > 0:27:53- ..when you could say I was wild.

0:27:56 > 0:27:59- I was homeless for a long while too.

0:27:59 > 0:28:04- I knew - if I continued along that path...

0:28:04 > 0:28:07- ..I'd dead by the time I was 30.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10- Life has been good to me...

0:28:11 > 0:28:13- ..in that sense.

0:28:14 > 0:28:18- I thought I wouldn't make it. - I'm 64 years old now.

0:28:18 > 0:28:20- When I'm 64.

0:28:20 > 0:28:22- # When I'm 64 #

0:28:22 > 0:28:26- I've reached this far...

0:28:26 > 0:28:30- ..so maybe that's the best thing - that's happened to me.

0:28:31 > 0:28:34- Dad's never been an ordinary father.

0:28:34 > 0:28:37- He doesn't drive, he doesn't do DIY.

0:28:37 > 0:28:40- He's a friend...

0:28:40 > 0:28:44- ..and he's someone - you can talk to about things.

0:28:44 > 0:28:50- When you'd come home pissed - as a teenager...

0:28:50 > 0:28:51- ..with your friend...

0:28:51 > 0:28:54- ..with your friend...- - He'd make you cheese on toast.

0:28:54 > 0:28:58- He'd be slightly jealous - he hadn't been out with us!

0:28:58 > 0:29:00- He's never been conventional...

0:29:01 > 0:29:03- ..or fatherly in that sense.

0:29:04 > 0:29:08- We've been brought up with music - being played at home all the time.

0:29:09 > 0:29:11- Singing has been a big part...

0:29:12 > 0:29:14- ..of our upbringing.

0:29:15 > 0:29:18- It's almost a natural progression...

0:29:18 > 0:29:21- ..to actually sing with Dad.

0:29:24 > 0:29:28- What's good - is the full sound that's created.

0:29:30 > 0:29:35- There are harmonies - and all kinds of pretty things.

0:29:36 > 0:29:41- It's great because you look over - and there they are!

0:29:41 > 0:29:43- That's quite nice.

0:29:43 > 0:29:46- This is still not right.

0:29:46 > 0:29:48- It's not.

0:29:50 > 0:29:52- # The world is closed #

0:29:52 > 0:29:57- I thought it was, 'Mae y byd' - because 'mae'r' is one syllable.

0:29:57 > 0:29:58- It's 'mae y,' is it?

0:29:58 > 0:30:00- It's 'mae y,' is it?- - 'Mae y byd,' yeah.

0:30:01 > 0:30:02- # The world is closed #

0:30:03 > 0:30:08- If my wife saw me putting teabags...

0:30:08 > 0:30:12- ..into every cup, - she'd go mad with me.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15- "What a waste!"

0:30:15 > 0:30:21- I'm a person who puts - water in first and then the milk.

0:30:21 > 0:30:27- My wife's a person - who puts milk in first.

0:30:28 > 0:30:30- It takes all sorts.

0:30:34 > 0:30:36- # You co-exist, you co-exist

0:30:37 > 0:30:39- # With your neighbours

0:30:39 > 0:30:41- # With your sensible neighbours

0:30:41 > 0:30:44- # Free life, free life

0:30:45 > 0:30:47- # Live a free life

0:30:47 > 0:30:49- # Aah-aah, aah-aah-aah-aah

0:30:50 > 0:30:51- # Aah

0:30:51 > 0:30:56- # Reggae Reggae #

0:30:58 > 0:31:01- The solo stops there as well.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05- This is the correct page.

0:31:11 > 0:31:14- In the past...

0:31:14 > 0:31:17- ..I've had a hard time of it - when I've been by myself.

0:31:17 > 0:31:21- I almost get to the point - that I hate the songs...

0:31:22 > 0:31:25- ..because they've been overworked.

0:31:28 > 0:31:32- # It's impossible to try to reason #

0:31:33 > 0:31:38- The truth is, - the things you worry about...

0:31:38 > 0:31:40- ..are so minor...

0:31:40 > 0:31:45- ..and years later when you're - listening to one of your songs...

0:31:45 > 0:31:47- ..it sounds great.

0:31:48 > 0:31:52- So perhaps all that worrying - has been in vain.

0:31:53 > 0:31:57- But the process and the experience - wouldn't be the same...

0:31:58 > 0:32:02- ..if I didn't - have something to worry about.

0:32:03 > 0:32:07- On the whole, - I'm very pleased with this album.

0:32:08 > 0:32:10- Is it just you going in to talk?

0:32:10 > 0:32:14- Yes, - they're just doing a film about...

0:32:14 > 0:32:16- ..what I'm doing and stuff.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31- HE HUMS

0:32:44 > 0:32:50- The girls have made - a big difference to this album.

0:32:50 > 0:32:55- They've earnt - their rightful place on the album.

0:32:56 > 0:32:59- I can't thank you enough - for being on the show...

0:32:59 > 0:33:04- ..and introducing us - to four songs from the new album.

0:33:04 > 0:33:08- Good luck with the new album - and thanks a million once again.

0:33:08 > 0:33:10- Thank you and Gareth too.

0:33:11 > 0:33:12- Thank you, Geraint Jarman.

0:33:12 > 0:33:14- Thank you, Geraint Jarman.- - Bye. Ta-ta.

0:33:20 > 0:33:25- It's a lot to do - with liking yourself...

0:33:25 > 0:33:27- ..and liking the world...

0:33:28 > 0:33:30- ..in a way...

0:33:30 > 0:33:33- ..because a lot of creative people - have problems...

0:33:34 > 0:33:37- ..and they tend to spend - long periods of time alone...

0:33:38 > 0:33:40- ..and things like that, you know.

0:33:43 > 0:33:47- When I used to suffer - with depression years ago...

0:33:47 > 0:33:50- ..half the reason for it - was because...

0:33:50 > 0:33:54- ..either I wouldn't get out of bed - like Spike Milligan...

0:33:55 > 0:33:58- ..or I wouldn't do anything...

0:33:58 > 0:34:02- ..because everything was a waste - and everything was pointless.

0:34:03 > 0:34:05- Self-discipline is the key.

0:34:21 > 0:34:25- There have been times - during my career...

0:34:25 > 0:34:29- ..when I've asked a record company - if I can make an album...

0:34:30 > 0:34:33- ..and they've said, - "No, you're not good enough."

0:34:35 > 0:34:40- I also remember one DJ saying, - "This is Geraint Jarman...

0:34:41 > 0:34:44- "..when he used to be able - to write songs."

0:34:44 > 0:34:48- That's when I wrote the song, - "Hei Mr DJ, you know what's what."

0:34:52 > 0:34:57- There are times - when you feel on top of the world...

0:34:58 > 0:35:01- ..and there are times - when you're low, but that's life.

0:35:09 > 0:35:12- I've known this man since he was 15.

0:35:12 > 0:35:16- He was in a band called Beganifs. - They were outstanding.

0:35:16 > 0:35:18- We did a tour, didn't we?

0:35:18 > 0:35:22- I was about 16 at the time - because I lived in Manchester.

0:35:22 > 0:35:24- It was crazy, wasn't it?

0:35:24 > 0:35:26- All the girls were after him!

0:35:26 > 0:35:28- Less than I got now!

0:35:31 > 0:35:34- It's going to be a little - unpredictable, this.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38- That's lovely, isn't it?

0:35:39 > 0:35:41- Beg me to go, though.

0:35:41 > 0:35:43- The Clangers!

0:35:52 > 0:35:54- Daw-naw-naw. That's the guitar part.

0:35:54 > 0:35:56- Oh, the...?

0:36:04 > 0:36:06- Sounded good, though.

0:36:06 > 0:36:08- OK, moving on.

0:36:09 > 0:36:11- Is it Reggae Reggae?

0:36:12 > 0:36:15- I didn't drink - until I was in my 30s.

0:36:16 > 0:36:20- I didn't like alcohol and - I didn't like drunk people either.

0:36:20 > 0:36:24- But smoking was a big deal.

0:36:24 > 0:36:28- Often I'd be stoned on stage.

0:36:30 > 0:36:34- Rastafarai is my excuse...

0:36:34 > 0:36:37- ..because - it's part of Rastafarian culture.

0:36:37 > 0:36:40- Smoking de spliff, you know.

0:36:41 > 0:36:45- The international herb - and things like that.

0:36:46 > 0:36:52- To them, it's some sort of chapel - fellowship, a kind of communion.

0:36:57 > 0:37:01- I don't take drugs any more.

0:37:01 > 0:37:05- It makes gigs more enjoyable.

0:37:10 > 0:37:13- I've only even been unhappy...

0:37:13 > 0:37:17- ..because I've been greedy...

0:37:17 > 0:37:20- ..and self-destructive.

0:37:21 > 0:37:26- It all goes together, - whether you get drunk or take drugs.

0:37:26 > 0:37:31- Whatever it is, there's an element - of self-destruct in us all.

0:37:31 > 0:37:37- The thing is to survive it - and like yourself a little.

0:37:41 > 0:37:42- Happy?

0:37:42 > 0:37:44- Happy?- - Yes, cool.

0:37:44 > 0:37:46- OK, we'll call it a day.

0:37:46 > 0:37:50- Thank you very much, - and thank you for coming.

0:37:51 > 0:37:51- .

0:37:55 > 0:37:55- Subtitles

0:37:55 > 0:37:57- Subtitles- - Subtitles

0:37:58 > 0:38:00- # La, la, la, la

0:38:08 > 0:38:10- # A taxi to the darkness

0:38:11 > 0:38:13- # A taxi to the darkness

0:38:15 > 0:38:16- # A taxi to the darkness #

0:38:19 > 0:38:20- Yeah!

0:38:23 > 0:38:25- Fabulous!

0:38:25 > 0:38:30- I write more songs now than I did - when I was younger. Much more.

0:38:36 > 0:38:40- Maybe I have to live a bit more - before I can write more.

0:38:40 > 0:38:42- And do something exciting.

0:38:44 > 0:38:48- I'm playing at Festival No.6 - before long. That's exciting.

0:38:58 > 0:39:01- Hello, pleased to meet you. - How's it going?

0:39:01 > 0:39:03- Very well, yeah.

0:39:04 > 0:39:07- So, half an hour - or a bit more than half an hour?

0:39:08 > 0:39:10- I'm always nervous.

0:39:10 > 0:39:15- I thought I'd lose those feelings - as I got older.

0:39:15 > 0:39:17- But I can't.

0:39:17 > 0:39:22- So what can I do? I can't drink - before the gig or get stoned.

0:39:23 > 0:39:26- I'm trying to hold - all these feelings in.

0:39:26 > 0:39:29- Once I see people dancing, - I'll be fine.

0:39:31 > 0:39:33- CROWD CHEERS

0:39:43 > 0:39:46- # Salamander sandwich spread

0:39:46 > 0:39:50- # A bangra disco in Birkenhead

0:39:50 > 0:39:55- # Swallowing a feast of locusts - and wild honey #

0:39:55 > 0:39:59- When you start performing, it's - hard because you're very nervous.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01- I still get very nervous.

0:40:03 > 0:40:07- # How about a bit of dolcelatte?

0:40:08 > 0:40:12- # I don't want to fight, - the world is closed

0:40:12 > 0:40:15- # A longing for Kylie #

0:40:15 > 0:40:18- Now I'm older, I sing better...

0:40:18 > 0:40:22- ..because when I started out, - I was nine stone seven.

0:40:23 > 0:40:25- And now I'm 12 and a half stone.

0:40:31 > 0:40:34- When I was much fitter...

0:40:34 > 0:40:37- ..I could dance - for a solid hour and a half...

0:40:38 > 0:40:41- ..and do all kinds of movements.

0:40:41 > 0:40:45- But as I've got older, - I can't do that any more.

0:40:45 > 0:40:50- But it's important to convey - the sentiment to the audience.

0:40:50 > 0:40:53- It's also important - to put them at ease...

0:40:53 > 0:40:57- ..because they're - the important ones, not you.

0:40:57 > 0:41:01- # I don't want to fight, - the world is closed #

0:41:20 > 0:41:25- Last year when I played, - I met some Americans...

0:41:25 > 0:41:28- ..and someone from Birmingham.

0:41:28 > 0:41:30- West Brom.

0:41:30 > 0:41:34- They went, "Wow, what's this?" - That's a good thing.

0:41:34 > 0:41:39- People pass by and they want to - know, "What is this Welsh thing?"

0:42:01 > 0:42:03- # The Wales Hotel

0:42:05 > 0:42:07- # No-one pays

0:42:08 > 0:42:10- # Though everyone buys

0:42:12 > 0:42:14- # Over at the Wales Hotel

0:42:17 > 0:42:20- # But everyone's fine

0:42:20 > 0:42:23- # They live in luxury - and swim in the pool

0:42:24 > 0:42:26- # But everyone's fine

0:42:27 > 0:42:31- # They dress smartly - to have dinner at night

0:42:33 > 0:42:35- # At the Wales Hotel

0:42:36 > 0:42:38- # No-one pays

0:42:39 > 0:42:41- # Though everyone buys

0:42:45 > 0:42:47- # But everyone's fine

0:42:47 > 0:42:51- # The entire population - bargains for their place

0:42:51 > 0:42:54- # But everyone's fine

0:42:54 > 0:42:59- # Over to the disco we'll go, - they'll dance to the harp

0:43:00 > 0:43:03- # The Wales Hotel

0:43:04 > 0:43:06- # No-one pays

0:43:07 > 0:43:09- # Though everyone buys

0:43:13 > 0:43:15- # And I saw her

0:43:15 > 0:43:19- # Going to her room with a stranger

0:43:19 > 0:43:22- # I love her

0:43:22 > 0:43:29- # Though she's cruel to me

0:44:06 > 0:44:08- # The Wales Hotel #

0:44:11 > 0:44:16- I've been lucky - that I've been warmly received.

0:44:18 > 0:44:22- I have to say, I've been lucky...

0:44:22 > 0:44:27- ..because I've had - great musicians working with me.

0:44:30 > 0:44:33- There's been an element - to everything I've done...

0:44:34 > 0:44:36- ..that's been successful.

0:44:37 > 0:44:41- I know, - I'm sensible enough to know...

0:44:42 > 0:44:46- ..when it's time to give it up.

0:44:46 > 0:44:48- I'll stop when the time comes.

0:44:49 > 0:44:52- I've enjoyed it all.

0:44:55 > 0:44:58- I'd be stupid to think I haven't...

0:44:58 > 0:45:01- ..because I've given it my all.

0:45:03 > 0:45:05- And also...

0:45:05 > 0:45:10- ..it there's enough time left...

0:45:11 > 0:45:15- ..I want to finish the things I've - started in terms of my writing...

0:45:16 > 0:45:18- ..and so on.

0:45:19 > 0:45:23- What I'd like is the opportunity - to continue recording...

0:45:23 > 0:45:30- ..because that's the one thing - I've never got fed up of...

0:45:30 > 0:45:32- ..or writing songs either.

0:45:32 > 0:45:36- It's who I am. - I want to continue being creative.

0:45:51 > 0:45:53- I keep doing it because...

0:45:54 > 0:45:56- ..what else would I do...

0:45:56 > 0:45:58- ..apart from this?

0:46:37 > 0:46:40- # I live in a housing estate

0:46:44 > 0:46:48- # The buildings close in

0:46:48 > 0:46:52- # Like a bracelet on the bay

0:46:52 > 0:46:54- # Behold, the lame man

0:46:55 > 0:46:58- # And the night is on tenterhooks

0:46:59 > 0:47:02- # Crossing the road before long

0:47:03 > 0:47:06- # He'll be out in front

0:47:08 > 0:47:12- # Oh-oh ambulance

0:47:15 > 0:47:20- # Oh-oh ambulance

0:47:23 > 0:47:28- # Oh-oh ambulance #

0:48:05 > 0:48:07- S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf.

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