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0:00:11 > 0:00:13- My name is Keith Williams.
0:00:13 > 0:00:17- When I was 13, - Mami told me I was adopted.
0:00:19 > 0:00:21- I'd never given it a thought.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25- I never imagined - I was related to a royal family...
0:00:25 > 0:00:28- ..from the other side of the world.
0:00:44 > 0:00:49- When I was four or five months old, - the council took me off my mother...
0:00:49 > 0:00:54- ..and they brought me here, to - Caeglas children's home, Ffairfach.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58- I lived here - until I was around 18 months old.
0:01:04 > 0:01:06- I don't remember a thing about it...
0:01:06 > 0:01:12- ..but being here does bring back - some sort of feeling.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18- It makes me think about the time - I spent in this home.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31- My adoptive parents - had been married for ten years...
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- ..but they couldn't have children.
0:01:34 > 0:01:38- Dadi ran a business in Penygroes - and he knew a lot of people.
0:01:39 > 0:01:44- Someone told him there was a little - boy in Caeglas children's home...
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- ..that he and Moira - should go and meet.
0:01:48 > 0:01:49- He called in one day.
0:01:50 > 0:01:55- Apparently, as soon as he walked - into the room, I went towards him...
0:01:55 > 0:01:56- ..and looked up at him.
0:01:57 > 0:02:01- There were other children there, - but he took a shine to me.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03- He went home - and told my mother about me.
0:02:04 > 0:02:10- They went through the adoption - process and that took a bit of time.
0:02:11 > 0:02:16- I was two years old - by the time everything went through.
0:02:20 > 0:02:22- I was a lucky boy.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28- Mami and Dadi - gave me a good upbringing.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33- That's never been a question. - I never wanted for anything.
0:02:41 > 0:02:45- Everyone in Penygroes - knows me as Keith the Coal.
0:02:46 > 0:02:49- I've had a brilliant life here.
0:02:54 > 0:02:56- My parents were very religious.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00- I was raised as a member - of the Temple Apostolic Church.
0:03:03 > 0:03:06- Dadi's uncle, - Pastor Dan, or DP Williams...
0:03:06 > 0:03:10- ..founded the Apostolic Church, - along with his brother.
0:03:10 > 0:03:13- They were strict. - We had to go to Sunday school.
0:03:13 > 0:03:18- I was in for it if I didn't listen, - and if the belt came out, look out!
0:03:19 > 0:03:23- My bottom would be red - and I couldn't sit down for a month.
0:03:25 > 0:03:29- I left school when I was 15 to work - with Dadi in the coal business...
0:03:30 > 0:03:31- ..up on the yard.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34- We worked really long hours.
0:03:35 > 0:03:38- We carried bags of coal - and did big tonnage.
0:03:38 > 0:03:42- We worked six days a week - and it really was a back breaker.
0:03:44 > 0:03:48- To be honest, - I enjoyed that time of my life.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- I miss those good times.
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0:04:11 > 0:04:13- Up to the time when Keith was 46...
0:04:14 > 0:04:19- ..he didn't feel any urge to search - for his birth mother or father.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24- I started the process - of finding his birth parents.
0:04:28 > 0:04:30- I was expecting his grandchild...
0:04:30 > 0:04:34- ..and I asked him if he wanted - to find his birth parents.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38- That's when Dad and Mam - went to find out.
0:04:38 > 0:04:44- Back in 1998, we looked into - how we could start this search.
0:04:44 > 0:04:49- I went to Llanelli to get a copy - of my birth certificate.
0:04:53 > 0:04:58- We left the Registrar's Office - with my original birth certificate.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04- There was nothing on it to tell me - who my mother and father were.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09- It was disappointing, to be honest, - but I'm not sure what I expected.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13- The only new thing - I did discover from it...
0:05:13 > 0:05:17- ..was that my original surname - was Hodge.
0:05:19 > 0:05:25- From there, we looked - through the telephone book...
0:05:25 > 0:05:27- ..for Hodges.
0:05:27 > 0:05:30- There weren't a lot of people - called Hodge.
0:05:30 > 0:05:34- There were a couple in Llanelli - and here and there.
0:05:34 > 0:05:38- I assumed - that my parents were from Llanelli.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40- That's all we had to go on.
0:05:40 > 0:05:45- We found that someone called Hodge - owned a bike shop in Llanelli...
0:05:46 > 0:05:48- ..but the shop had closed.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52- We then decided - to go up to the Box Cemetery.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57- It was fascinating, - but we reached a dead end.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00- We couldn't find anything out.
0:06:01 > 0:06:07- It pointed to the name Hodge having - no connection with Llanelli...
0:06:07 > 0:06:09- ..apart from the fact - I was born there.
0:06:09 > 0:06:12- We had to go back - to the drawing board.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16- I went back to Social Services...
0:06:17 > 0:06:21- ..and I made an application - for a full birth certificate.
0:06:21 > 0:06:26- The adoption details were on it - and that's how I found out...
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- ..that my mother's name - was Elizabeth Rosa Hodge.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39- We went to London for a meeting...
0:06:39 > 0:06:44- ..at the records office - for births, marriages and deaths.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- We met - a wonderfully helpful lady there.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52- We spent quite a bit of time there - and she helped us.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57- She recommended - what we should and shouldn't do.
0:06:58 > 0:07:02- She advised us not to knock on doors - in case we got a bad reaction.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04- We wouldn't do that anyway.
0:07:06 > 0:07:10- We found a reference number - when she was showing us what to do.
0:07:13 > 0:07:18- We found out - that Elizabeth Rosa had married.
0:07:20 > 0:07:22- Her married name was Grzegorzek.
0:07:22 > 0:07:24- It's a Polish surname.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26- She married a man called Frank.
0:07:27 > 0:07:33- We found out that Elizabeth Rosa - gave birth to two girls.
0:07:35 > 0:07:37- Their names are Christine and Anita.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40- That really gave me a boost.
0:07:41 > 0:07:43- I was raised as an only child...
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- ..and I now discovered - that I had two half-sisters.
0:07:47 > 0:07:48- It was fantastic.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54- It gave us a push - to find what we were looking for.
0:07:58 > 0:08:01- The lady in London - gave us some advice.
0:08:01 > 0:08:05- She said, "Where you have - your birth certificate...
0:08:05 > 0:08:10- ..it would help you if you went back - to the local authority there."
0:08:11 > 0:08:15- I did that and I asked to speak - to someone from Social Services.
0:08:15 > 0:08:19- Fair play, - the lady met me straight away.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22- I explained to her what I was after.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25- It's not easy - to get your hands on it.
0:08:25 > 0:08:29- Obviously, you can't just walk in - and ask for information.
0:08:29 > 0:08:31- I had to prove who I was.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- She said, "Leave it to me."
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- I phoned her - a couple of weeks later...
0:08:37 > 0:08:42- ..and she said, "I've found records - from the archives in Carmarthen."
0:08:46 > 0:08:48- When this file was handed to me...
0:08:51 > 0:08:54- ..I was quite emotional, - to be honest.
0:08:55 > 0:08:59- This is a list - of my personal belongings.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03- One pair of mittens. - Two pairs of shoes.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06- Socks. Rubber pants.
0:09:07 > 0:09:09- Ration book.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19- This is a Visitor Report...
0:09:19 > 0:09:23- ..from the time - when I went out as a foster child.
0:09:26 > 0:09:32- "The child appears quite white apart - from slight swarthiness of skin."
0:09:36 > 0:09:38- I turned the page - and saw these words.
0:09:39 > 0:09:42- "The father of the child - is a Malayan.
0:09:42 > 0:09:44- "A married man with a family".
0:09:54 > 0:09:59- I took a drive in the car on my own, - just to absorb everything.
0:09:59 > 0:10:04- I drove up to the Scotch Pine - on Betws mountain...
0:10:04 > 0:10:06- ..and I sat in the car for hours.
0:10:13 > 0:10:17- When I think that my father came - from the other side of the world...
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- ..there's a lot of water between us.
0:10:21 > 0:10:24- I was really shaken.
0:10:25 > 0:10:27- It was hard to take it in.
0:10:33 > 0:10:37- It wasn't the news - I expected to find, to be honest.
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0:11:22 > 0:11:25- When I learned my mother's name...
0:11:25 > 0:11:29- ..and that my father came from - the other side of the world...
0:11:29 > 0:11:35- ..it was a shock, but it made me - more determined to find out more.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- Vanessa and I - decided to do a bit of PI work.
0:11:39 > 0:11:42- We went up to the Peterborough area.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- We'd been given - a few addresses up there...
0:11:46 > 0:11:49- ..so we decided to go up there - for a few days...
0:11:49 > 0:11:52- ..to find out as much as possible.
0:12:08 > 0:12:13- We had the marriage certificate - and an address was printed on it.
0:12:16 > 0:12:21- The witness to the wedding lived in - Yaxley, just outside Peterborough.
0:12:21 > 0:12:26- We came up to Yaxley and we found - the house where the witness lived.
0:12:29 > 0:12:31- He was Polish, like Frank.
0:12:31 > 0:12:32- They were workmates.
0:12:34 > 0:12:38- We knocked on the door - and told them our story.
0:12:38 > 0:12:41- The man said they used to live - across the road...
0:12:41 > 0:12:45- ..and their son - drives buses in Peterborough.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47- We didn't know there was a son.
0:12:47 > 0:12:52- The records we found in London - only mentioned two girls.
0:12:54 > 0:12:56- That was another surprise for us.
0:12:56 > 0:13:01- Suddenly, I had a half-brother - as well as two half-sisters.
0:13:06 > 0:13:09- We left Yaxley, - on our detective mission...
0:13:10 > 0:13:12- ..and we came here, - to Deeping St James.
0:13:13 > 0:13:17- When we reached this village, - we went to the post office.
0:13:20 > 0:13:21- That was the address we had.
0:13:23 > 0:13:27- The girl there said - it used to be a house years ago.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31- We explained - that we were trying to track down...
0:13:32 > 0:13:36- ..Elizabeth Rosa Grzegorzek.
0:13:36 > 0:13:41- She said, "I tell you who'd help. - Two sisters who live together."
0:13:42 > 0:13:44- Midwives.
0:13:46 > 0:13:50- I knocked the door and said - we were trying to find Elizabeth.
0:13:50 > 0:13:53- She said, - "She used to go by the name Betty."
0:13:54 > 0:13:56- That was news to us, of course.
0:13:56 > 0:14:01- She added, "I know Betty very well. - I brought Betty into this world."
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- Good gracious me!
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- That was - a fascinating thing to learn.
0:14:08 > 0:14:12- She said, "I tell you - who'd be able to help you."
0:14:12 > 0:14:16- "She's got an auntie - living just around the corner."
0:14:16 > 0:14:20- She gave us the address, - so we went up the road.
0:14:20 > 0:14:24- We sat in the car for a few minutes, - Vanessa and I.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26- Shall I knock the door or shan't I?
0:14:27 > 0:14:30- We knocked on the door - and a lady came to the door.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- As soon as I opened my mouth, - she knew I was Welsh...
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- ..and she said, "Come in! Come in!"
0:14:37 > 0:14:39- I said, "My wife's there."
0:14:39 > 0:14:42- She said, - "Get your wife in as well."
0:14:42 > 0:14:46- I thought, "Flippin' heck, - they're nice people here."
0:14:46 > 0:14:48- We went in and she knew who I was.
0:14:48 > 0:14:53- She said, "You've just missed Betty - but I've got a photograph of her."
0:14:55 > 0:14:57- That was the first photo - I'd seen of her.
0:14:58 > 0:14:59- It was a nice thing to see.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04- She gave me Betty's address and we - decided to go home and write to her.
0:15:06 > 0:15:11- "..became the mother of a boy which - had to be passed on for adoption.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16- "With the information we've gathered - through our investigative work...
0:15:16 > 0:15:19- "..the girl in question - was yourself."
0:15:22 > 0:15:25- "It certainly was a surprise - to receive your letter.
0:15:25 > 0:15:29- "My husband, Frank, and myself - would dearly love to meet you."
0:15:30 > 0:15:35- I could tell from the letter that - she was delighted I'd found her.
0:15:35 > 0:15:36- She was over the moon.
0:15:37 > 0:15:42- We exchanged a few more letters, - then we arranged to meet.
0:15:43 > 0:15:45- We met for the first time...
0:15:45 > 0:15:51- ..and as she wrote in her letters, - she was thrilled that I'd found her.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56- We went up to Peterborough...
0:15:57 > 0:16:01- ..and we stayed in a hotel - on the other side of the town.
0:16:01 > 0:16:04- We didn't know what to expect - and I was a bag of nerves.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- We saw them - walking in from the car park.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12- When she actually came in - through the front door...
0:16:12 > 0:16:15- ..I can't put it into words - how emotional it was.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17- It blew me away.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19- We hugged and kissed.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21- I met Frank, her husband, of course.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25- We got on really well.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28- To think that she hadn't seen me - for fifty-odd years.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32- The feeling was tremendous.
0:16:33 > 0:16:35- We met several times after that.
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- She came down to see us - and she stayed in Llanelli.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47- Robin, her son, his wife - and their son came with them.
0:16:48 > 0:16:50- It was surreal.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55- It's hard to put it into words.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01- Vanessa and I had been - talking about it for two years.
0:17:01 > 0:17:05- We started the process - and we did the detective work...
0:17:06 > 0:17:08- ..and now we'd reached this point.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11- It was a different chapter, really.
0:17:11 > 0:17:12- We could move forward.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15- It was fantastic.
0:17:15 > 0:17:17- Absolutely.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27- My mother went to Carshalton, - Surrey, as a trainee nurse.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32- When she was doing her training...
0:17:32 > 0:17:37- ..she met the man - who turned out to be my father.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41- He was studying in London.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44- They met - when they were out somewhere.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46- I'm not sure where.
0:17:50 > 0:17:53- They went out together - for quite some time.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57- She found out she was pregnant, - expecting me.
0:17:57 > 0:18:01- Because she was there - under the council's care...
0:18:03 > 0:18:07- ..she had to come home as soon - as she discovered she was pregnant.
0:18:07 > 0:18:09- So she came back to Llanelli.
0:18:11 > 0:18:16- She tried to find - the man she loved...
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- ..but he'd gone.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25- I'm an open-minded man.
0:18:26 > 0:18:31- Mami told me that story but - there are two sides to every story.
0:18:31 > 0:18:36- People give you all sorts of reasons - for giving up children for adoption.
0:18:36 > 0:18:41- But when she met me and explained - her reasons for giving me up...
0:18:41 > 0:18:43- ..I had to listen to her.
0:18:43 > 0:18:45- I was willing to listen.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49- I felt for her.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- I had sympathy for her - being put in that situation.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58- She had no relatives - and no backup down here.
0:19:00 > 0:19:03- Her father was at sea, - so he was never home.
0:19:03 > 0:19:06- I felt really sorry for her, - to be honest.
0:19:06 > 0:19:08- She wanted to keep me.
0:19:11 > 0:19:13- There was a bit of a tug of war.
0:19:13 > 0:19:15- It's quite sad, really.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17- It's very sad.
0:19:17 > 0:19:21- Without a doubt, she had a hard life - when she was young.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- She went through her life, - up to the age she is now...
0:19:27 > 0:19:30- ..keeping all these safe and sound.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34- She only gave - some of this stuff to me recently.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- They must have meant so much to her.
0:19:40 > 0:19:42- And to think she had to let me go.
0:19:46 > 0:19:48- She had no choice, really.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57- The man she met in London...
0:19:58 > 0:20:01- ..and went out with - as boyfriend and girlfriend...
0:20:02 > 0:20:03- ..came from Malaysia.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05- He was a Malayan.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10- She gave me photographs - that show how he lived out there.
0:20:10 > 0:20:14- He was connected to the royal family - out there.
0:20:15 > 0:20:20- He was made a sultan back in 1963.
0:20:21 > 0:20:22- He died in 1984.
0:20:22 > 0:20:28- He was out on official business - and he had a heart attack.
0:20:28 > 0:20:29- This is his full name.
0:20:30 > 0:20:31- I can't pronounce it.
0:20:31 > 0:20:37- Paduka Seri Sultan Idris - Al-Mutawakkil Alallahi Shah...
0:20:38 > 0:20:42- ..Ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar - Shah Kaddasullah.
0:20:45 > 0:20:47- He was the 33rd Sultan of Perak.
0:20:49 > 0:20:53- The funny thing is, despite the fact - he had such a long name...
0:20:54 > 0:20:56- ..everyone knew him as Robert!
0:20:56 > 0:20:58- HE LAUGHS
0:20:58 > 0:21:01- How did he get that name? - I don't know!
0:21:06 > 0:21:07- Brilliant!
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- Timothy, my son, was on Myspace.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29- Myspace was as popular then - as Facebook is now.
0:21:33 > 0:21:36- He was on Myspace and suddenly, - a photo of my father appeared.
0:21:37 > 0:21:41- Someone had posted a photo of him.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43- It was pure luck that he saw it.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46- It's the same photo - as the one I have.
0:21:46 > 0:21:50- He phoned me up - and told me to log on to Myspace.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- I didn't have a clue - what he was talking about.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56- I'm not interested in these things.
0:21:56 > 0:22:00- He came up to the house - and I had to log on in my name.
0:22:02 > 0:22:06- The woman who posted the picture - was called Ku Ess.
0:22:06 > 0:22:10- I sent her a message, - trying to be as careful as I could.
0:22:10 > 0:22:13- I didn't go at it - like a bull at a gate.
0:22:14 > 0:22:16- I asked her - if he went by the name Robert.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21- She replied that it was him, - so I knew I was on the right track.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- We exchanged a couple of messages...
0:22:24 > 0:22:28- ..and she said it was best for me - to speak to her brother...
0:22:29 > 0:22:30- ..Ku Shah.
0:22:31 > 0:22:33- He'd be able to help me more.
0:22:33 > 0:22:35- She put me in contact with him.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38- He replied straight away.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40- He told me he was very surprised.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43- Nobody knew about me.
0:22:43 > 0:22:47- He sent a list to me of all ten - of his children's names.
0:22:47 > 0:22:52- I've got ten siblings which - I knew nothing about until then.
0:22:55 > 0:22:57- I became friends - with his sister too.
0:22:57 > 0:23:02- The two of them lived in the palace - with our father, Robert.
0:23:05 > 0:23:10- I was in touch with them and Ku Ess - and another girl became involved.
0:23:10 > 0:23:11- Her name is Mahdia.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14- Mahdia and Ku Ess were the youngest.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- They were in their early 30s.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19- I got on well with them.
0:23:19 > 0:23:24- I haven't been out to Malaysia yet, - but I'm looking forward to going.
0:23:25 > 0:23:29- I'll go in late September, - all being well...
0:23:29 > 0:23:33- ..and I'll finally get to meet - the people I've spoken to.
0:23:33 > 0:23:35- I'm only in touch with four of them.
0:23:36 > 0:23:37- Shah's dead, poor dab.
0:23:37 > 0:23:39- He died last year.
0:23:39 > 0:23:42- He would have been - the best man to have met...
0:23:42 > 0:23:44- ..because he was more open.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47- He was more accepting, perhaps.
0:23:48 > 0:23:50- We got along well.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56- They said they could see the - likeness and all this type of thing.
0:23:58 > 0:24:02- I'm looking forward to meeting them, - and I think they feel the same.
0:24:06 > 0:24:08- June
0:24:18 > 0:24:23- I received a phone call - at five o'clock yesterday morning.
0:24:24 > 0:24:26- I was fast asleep.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28- It was a call from America.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32- It was my sister, Christine.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36- She told me our mother, Betty, - had passed away...
0:24:39 > 0:24:42- ..at Christine's home in Arizona.
0:24:42 > 0:24:44- She died surrounded by her family.
0:24:45 > 0:24:46- She was comfortable.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49- It's quite sad.
0:24:55 > 0:24:57- They wanted her to move out there.
0:24:57 > 0:25:01- She'd lost Frank, her husband...
0:25:03 > 0:25:09- ..and she lost her son, Robin, - around seven or eight years ago.
0:25:09 > 0:25:15- He popped in to see her every day - and losing him really affected her.
0:25:19 > 0:25:21- The girls - wanted her to move there...
0:25:22 > 0:25:25- ..but she didn't want to - now that she'd met us.
0:25:26 > 0:25:28- She felt she'd be leaving us.
0:25:28 > 0:25:32- The girls have been settled - in America for 25 or 30 years.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39- I wasn't happy that she went - over there in October.
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- Her health wasn't great even then.
0:25:42 > 0:25:46- She had a stroke the year before - and she was starting to fade.
0:25:53 > 0:25:54- She wasn't well...
0:25:56 > 0:25:58- ..but she wasn't too bad.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02- When I last saw her, she was - walking around quite happily.
0:26:02 > 0:26:05- She was happy - in her own environment.
0:26:06 > 0:26:10- When she went out there, - she left her comfort zone.
0:26:16 > 0:26:19- Keith's really sad - and he's really quiet.
0:26:20 > 0:26:23- We're all shocked - that Betty went so suddenly.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26- We knew she wasn't well...
0:26:26 > 0:26:31- ..but it's a big shock - that she died so suddenly.
0:26:44 > 0:26:46- I'm devastated to have lost her.
0:26:49 > 0:26:54- I've now lost two mothers - - my adoptive mother and Betty.
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0:27:22 > 0:27:26- Since Betty's death, - I've had time to think a lot.
0:27:27 > 0:27:32- I've realized there were questions - I should have asked her.
0:27:32 > 0:27:38- I have no reason to doubt Betty, - but I want to take a DNA test...
0:27:39 > 0:27:43- ..to prove to the family in Malaysia - exactly who I am.
0:27:43 > 0:27:47- The company in London - which does the tests...
0:27:47 > 0:27:52- ..told me that a male sample...
0:27:52 > 0:27:56- ..would give - a more direct positive result...
0:27:57 > 0:27:58- ..than a female sample.
0:27:58 > 0:28:02- They spoke to my youngest brother, - who's in his early 40s.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05- His name is Rashid.
0:28:05 > 0:28:07- They talked to him about me...
0:28:07 > 0:28:10- ..and I assumed - he'd give a DNA sample.
0:28:10 > 0:28:13- The indication was - that he was willing to do that.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17- However, when I took it - one step further...
0:28:17 > 0:28:23- ..and asked them to supply the name - and address of a private clinic...
0:28:25 > 0:28:28- ..so that we could - send out the packs...
0:28:28 > 0:28:33- ..she wrote back to me and said, - "No, he doesn't want to do it.
0:28:33 > 0:28:35- "He'd rather keep out of it.
0:28:37 > 0:28:39- "The issue is - we are no ordinary family.
0:28:39 > 0:28:41- "We are protecting the family.
0:28:41 > 0:28:44- "We do not want to open - any skeletons in the cupboard.
0:28:45 > 0:28:47- "We hope you understand."
0:28:48 > 0:28:52- I sent messages to Ku Ess, - my youngest sister.
0:28:52 > 0:28:54- She's transgender.
0:28:56 > 0:28:58- She was born a male.
0:29:23 > 0:29:28- I've always said I don't want - to bring my father into disrepute.
0:29:28 > 0:29:31- That's not something I want to do.
0:29:31 > 0:29:33- I wanted to see the DNA results...
0:29:34 > 0:29:37- ..to satisfy myself - that I am who I say I am.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40- I think - they feel a bit threatened now.
0:29:40 > 0:29:42- That's the crux of it.
0:29:42 > 0:29:44- They feel a bit threatened.
0:29:45 > 0:29:48- It's natural - to feel a bit disappointed.
0:29:54 > 0:29:57- But I've got to stay positive.
0:30:00 > 0:30:05- If I hadn't stayed positive, - I wouldn't have come this far.
0:30:05 > 0:30:08- A lot of work and time - has gone into everything.
0:30:09 > 0:30:11- I found Betty...
0:30:11 > 0:30:15- ..and, obviously, - I then found them out there.
0:30:15 > 0:30:19- They've been really supportive - and accommodating.
0:30:20 > 0:30:24- Everything was good.
0:30:25 > 0:30:27- So I don't know.
0:30:34 > 0:30:36- September
0:30:45 > 0:30:49- It's exciting to think - I'm packing to head out to Malaysia.
0:30:50 > 0:30:52- I never thought I'd see this day.
0:30:55 > 0:30:57- I'm raring to go.
0:31:03 > 0:31:05- I hope Dad gets some closure.
0:31:07 > 0:31:09- I hope he achieves his goal...
0:31:10 > 0:31:13- ..of meeting the family in Malaysia.
0:31:17 > 0:31:20- It would be nice - to find out what it's all about.
0:31:21 > 0:31:23- We're all supportive.
0:31:23 > 0:31:27- We're happy he's going - to meet the family in Malaysia.
0:31:28 > 0:31:30- It'll be special.
0:31:32 > 0:31:34- We're all excited for Keith.
0:31:34 > 0:31:36- We're also a bit worried for him.
0:31:37 > 0:31:41- We're delighted that Keith - will get to see the palace...
0:31:41 > 0:31:43- ..his father's resting place...
0:31:44 > 0:31:47- ..and the other places of interest - for him.
0:31:47 > 0:31:51- We're worried about whether or not - the family in Malaysia...
0:31:52 > 0:31:54- ..will accept Keith - as their brother.
0:31:56 > 0:32:01- It will be great if Dad can meet - his brothers and sisters...
0:32:02 > 0:32:05- ..out in Malaysia.
0:32:05 > 0:32:07- It will put an end to it.
0:32:10 > 0:32:13- I'm glad Timothy's coming with me.
0:32:13 > 0:32:16- It means I'll have some company.
0:32:16 > 0:32:18- I'm really looking forward to it.
0:32:18 > 0:32:21- I can't wait to see the country...
0:32:21 > 0:32:25- ..and to meet whoever we can - when we're out there.
0:32:27 > 0:32:31- I want to see a bit of the country - and see how they live.
0:32:35 > 0:32:37- It's going to be emotional.
0:32:37 > 0:32:39- There's no doubt about it.
0:32:42 > 0:32:47- I'm going to see the tomb...
0:32:47 > 0:32:49- ..where my father was laid to rest.
0:32:50 > 0:32:52- That's one of the things - I want to see.
0:32:53 > 0:32:57- It goes without saying - that will be emotional.
0:32:57 > 0:33:01- He's been dead for 30 years, - of course.
0:33:06 > 0:33:08- It's just something I want to see.
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0:33:43 > 0:33:45- After a twelve-hour flight...
0:33:46 > 0:33:49- ..to get out here...
0:33:50 > 0:33:53- ..it's nice to have my feet - on solid ground in Malaysia.
0:33:54 > 0:33:58- Kuala Kangsar - is two hours north of Kuala Lumpur.
0:34:02 > 0:34:07- First of all, Timothy and I - enjoy a trip down the river.
0:34:08 > 0:34:12- I hope there's a message awaiting us - when we get back to the hotel.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14- Thank you.
0:34:15 > 0:34:19- I've been looking forward - to coming out here for a long time.
0:34:20 > 0:34:23- I'm a little bit disappointed, - to be honest.
0:34:24 > 0:34:27- I had hoped to meet - some of my relatives.
0:34:29 > 0:34:35- They'd sort of said they were - willing to meet me when I got here.
0:34:38 > 0:34:40- But things have turned cold.
0:34:41 > 0:34:42- I can't get hold of anyone.
0:34:46 > 0:34:50- They're not replying to my messages - and that's a bit frustrating.
0:34:51 > 0:34:52- I can't talk to anyone.
0:34:55 > 0:34:59- Hopefully, - someone will reply to his messages.
0:34:59 > 0:35:04- Every time he doesn't get a reply, - he feels very disappointed.
0:35:04 > 0:35:06- But we go on.
0:35:07 > 0:35:09- We've got to go on.
0:35:12 > 0:35:16- I'm just hoping that some of them - change their minds...
0:35:17 > 0:35:20- ..and that they contact me - in the next few days.
0:35:21 > 0:35:22- We'll see.
0:35:23 > 0:35:25- We can just live in hope.
0:35:36 > 0:35:40- Kuala Kangsar - was built around the royal palace.
0:35:43 > 0:35:48- Robert lived there, in the palace, - for most of his life.
0:35:49 > 0:35:53- The current sultan lives there too.
0:35:54 > 0:35:57- I had hoped - to be invited to see it...
0:35:58 > 0:36:00- ..but I don't think - there's any chance of that.
0:36:02 > 0:36:06- It's like ringing the doorbell - at Buckingham Palace...
0:36:06 > 0:36:09- ..and asking - if you can have a look round!
0:36:10 > 0:36:11- I don't think it'll happen.
0:36:19 > 0:36:24- I wanted to see - his final resting place.
0:36:24 > 0:36:28- I'm glad I did see it, to be honest.
0:36:30 > 0:36:32- It's hard to explain how I feel.
0:36:33 > 0:36:36- I didn't know the man personally...
0:36:37 > 0:36:40- ..but he was my father.
0:36:43 > 0:36:46- I'm glad I had a chance to see it.
0:36:50 > 0:36:53- I feel as if - there's a part of me here.
0:36:53 > 0:36:55- Well, there is a part of me here.
0:36:57 > 0:36:58- Buried here.
0:36:59 > 0:37:04- If I ever came back out here, - I'd want to return here.
0:37:05 > 0:37:10- I'd want to see his tomb again.
0:37:27 > 0:37:31- This is our final day - in the Kuala Kangsar area.
0:37:34 > 0:37:38- We'll travel - down to Kuala Lumpur tomorrow.
0:37:39 > 0:37:45- The hope is we'll get to meet - some members of my family.
0:37:45 > 0:37:46- Fingers crossed.
0:37:46 > 0:37:50- I hope I can talk to someone...
0:37:50 > 0:37:55- ..just to finish off - what we've seen.
0:37:55 > 0:37:56- That would be good.
0:38:46 > 0:38:49- I've been talking to Timothy - about this.
0:38:51 > 0:38:56- We think that it's because - the whole thing is so sensitive.
0:38:58 > 0:39:03- It's all to do with the ascendancy - which goes up to the sultan.
0:39:03 > 0:39:07- My father was the 33rd sultan.
0:39:07 > 0:39:11- His second cousin became the 34th.
0:39:13 > 0:39:19- He died last year, - so his son became the 35th sultan.
0:39:23 > 0:39:27- We've now come to understand - that Robert's eldest son...
0:39:28 > 0:39:33- ..has now been named as the person - who'll succeed our second cousin.
0:39:34 > 0:39:40- What's striking fear into them - is I'm Robert's eldest son.
0:39:42 > 0:39:46- What that means is, - according to their law...
0:39:47 > 0:39:53- ..although they've named the heir, - I should overtake him.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56- I wouldn't want to be sultan.
0:39:56 > 0:39:59- It's a different culture.
0:39:59 > 0:40:01- I wasn't raised in it.
0:40:02 > 0:40:04- They don't know that.
0:40:04 > 0:40:07- I think that's why - they're a bit wary.
0:40:07 > 0:40:12- It's about that fact, what I'll do - about it and what I want out of it.
0:40:15 > 0:40:19- If they opened up a bit - and allowed me to meet them...
0:40:20 > 0:40:23- ..they'd understand - where I'm coming from.
0:40:24 > 0:40:29- I'm not interested - in becoming the 36th sultan.
0:40:30 > 0:40:32- The thought!
0:40:33 > 0:40:37- That's not even in my mind.
0:40:38 > 0:40:43- As I said, it's in their thoughts - and that's a shame, really.
0:40:43 > 0:40:46- If we could meet, - it would be great...
0:40:46 > 0:40:47- ..but who knows?
0:40:47 > 0:40:48- We may meet one day.
0:40:49 > 0:40:52- We may even meet - before we leave tomorrow.
0:41:31 > 0:41:33- Hello, Ku Ess.
0:41:34 > 0:41:36- How are you today?
0:41:39 > 0:41:41- OK, we'll meet in the evening.
0:41:42 > 0:41:45- Nine, ten o'clock in the night - is preferable to you.
0:41:46 > 0:41:47- OK. Speak to you soon.
0:41:48 > 0:41:49- Bye-bye.
0:41:50 > 0:41:51- Bye.
0:41:52 > 0:41:56- We've been hoping all week...
0:41:56 > 0:41:59- ..that I'd be able to meet someone.
0:41:59 > 0:42:03- This has come - as a bolt from the blue, really.
0:42:03 > 0:42:08- I picked up a message - on Facebook Messenger.
0:42:09 > 0:42:11- She sent me a voice clip.
0:42:14 > 0:42:17- I feel really happy now.
0:42:19 > 0:42:22- I'm finally going to meet - one of the family...
0:42:22 > 0:42:25- ..and we'll do it - before we go home tomorrow.
0:42:27 > 0:42:31- That's the icing on the cake for me.
0:42:33 > 0:42:38- We'll meet her tonight - in this hotel...
0:42:38 > 0:42:41- ..and take it from there.
0:42:49 > 0:42:51- The clock is ticking.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54- She said she'd be here - between nine and ten...
0:42:54 > 0:42:56- ..so we're waiting for her.
0:42:57 > 0:43:00- I talked to her again - and she's running a bit late.
0:43:00 > 0:43:03- I'm a bit apprehensive - at the moment.
0:43:03 > 0:43:07- I'm about to meet my half-sister - for the first time...
0:43:07 > 0:43:09- ..on the other side of the world.
0:43:12 > 0:43:14- I'm looking forward to it.
0:43:15 > 0:43:17- I don't care what time she arrives.
0:43:17 > 0:43:20- Although we're leaving - early tomorrow...
0:43:21 > 0:43:22- ..it makes no difference.
0:43:22 > 0:43:26- I just want to meet her, - and she wants to meet me too.
0:43:28 > 0:43:30- I can't wait.
0:43:32 > 0:43:35- I'll have butterflies - in my stomach later...
0:43:35 > 0:43:38- ..but I look forward to meeting her.
0:43:58 > 0:44:00- The long wait is over.
0:44:02 > 0:44:05- I met Ku Ess.
0:44:05 > 0:44:06- She did turn up.
0:44:07 > 0:44:12- She was running late, - so I was there waiting and hoping.
0:44:12 > 0:44:14- She turned up...
0:44:14 > 0:44:19- ..and it was quite emotional for me.
0:44:19 > 0:44:24- I've known her - for six or seven years.
0:44:26 > 0:44:29- We discussed me coming over here - and so on.
0:44:35 > 0:44:40- The fact that I got to meet her - in the end was great.
0:44:40 > 0:44:42- It really was good.
0:44:43 > 0:44:49- I told her we were over here doing - a bit of filming about my story.
0:44:51 > 0:44:56- I asked her how she'd feel...
0:44:58 > 0:45:01- ..about talking on camera.
0:45:02 > 0:45:05- I explained to her - that she didn't have to say much.
0:45:05 > 0:45:08- I just wanted her to chat to me...
0:45:08 > 0:45:12- ..but she didn't feel - it would be safe for her to do so...
0:45:13 > 0:45:18- ..because of her position - and her title.
0:45:20 > 0:45:23- She goes under the title - Her Royal Highness.
0:45:24 > 0:45:29- She didn't feel it would be right...
0:45:29 > 0:45:32- ..for her to talk on camera.
0:45:32 > 0:45:34- She has to be careful - who she talks to...
0:45:34 > 0:45:37- ..where she talks to people - and what she says.
0:45:39 > 0:45:42- She apologized.
0:45:45 > 0:45:49- She was sorry - but she didn't feel it was right.
0:45:50 > 0:45:53- She wasn't willing to do it, - basically.
0:45:54 > 0:45:58- Unfortunately, - we had to leave it like that.
0:46:04 > 0:46:08- I think I'd like to get to know - more members of my family.
0:46:09 > 0:46:14- I'd like to meet someone - who's higher up...
0:46:14 > 0:46:17- ..just to explain - I don't want anything out of it.
0:46:17 > 0:46:20- Whether that will happen, - I don't know.
0:46:22 > 0:46:27- I'll weigh things up and see - what develops in the coming months.
0:46:27 > 0:46:28- I'll take it from there.
0:46:39 > 0:46:41- When we started to look into it...
0:46:43 > 0:46:49- ..to try to find - the identity of my birth mother...
0:46:50 > 0:46:52- ..and my birth father...
0:46:56 > 0:47:00- ..I never imagined I'd end up - sitting down with a queen...
0:47:01 > 0:47:03- ..who went out of her way - to meet me.
0:47:05 > 0:47:08- It blows your mind away.
0:47:09 > 0:47:12- Beyond that, - we have the same father.
0:47:12 > 0:47:13- She's my half-sister.
0:47:14 > 0:47:17- That's a big thing.
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