0:00:31 > 0:00:32- Subtitles
0:00:35 > 0:00:38- Once again this year, - there are three categories...
0:00:38 > 0:00:40- ..poetry, fiction - and creative non-fiction.
0:00:41 > 0:00:44- The winner of each category - will win 1,000 and a trophy.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47- The winner of the overall - Book of the Year award...
0:00:47 > 0:00:51- ..will receive an additional 3,000 - and a further award.
0:00:51 > 0:00:54- I can't wait to find out - who has won. Let's go in.
0:00:54 > 0:00:58- I think a night like this is - important for the entire industry.
0:00:58 > 0:01:02- It's clearly important - for the authors and publishers.
0:01:02 > 0:01:06- It's also important for booksellers - and those in the supply chain.
0:01:06 > 0:01:09- It draws attention - to the shortlist...
0:01:10 > 0:01:13- ..and to the rest - of the year's books.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15- It's been a great competition.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19- The longlist was excellent - in a challenging year.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22- A lot of books - could have been included.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25- They've put together - an interesting list.
0:01:26 > 0:01:29- There are some unusual and - perhaps unexpected choices.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32- I think the choice of novels - is particularly strong.
0:01:33 > 0:01:35- I have favourites - in all three categories.
0:01:36 > 0:01:37- If I have to decide...
0:01:37 > 0:01:40- ..and maybe - I'll be eating my hat later...
0:01:40 > 0:01:44- ..I'd chose Gruffydd Aled Williams' - Dyddiau Olaf Owain Glyndwr...
0:01:44 > 0:01:48- ..Y Bwthyn by Caryl Lewis - and Nes Draw by Mererid Hopwood.
0:01:48 > 0:01:50- My own personal choice - for the main prize...
0:01:50 > 0:01:52- ..would be Caryl Lewis.
0:01:54 > 0:01:57- It's good to have the ceremony - in South Wales...
0:01:58 > 0:02:00- ..and outside the major cities.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03- It's good to draw attention - to the Merthyr area...
0:02:04 > 0:02:06- ..and to bring the - arts to the Valleys.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12- The Book of the Year awards - IS quite a big event.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16- There's excitement here. - There's a lot happening.
0:02:17 > 0:02:21- I'm from the Rhondda and it was - great not to have to travel too far.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28- Good evening and - on behalf of Literature Wales...
0:02:28 > 0:02:31- ..welcome to the - 2016 Book of the Year ceremony.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35- I'm Lisa Gwilym and - I'll guide you through the ceremony.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39- It's a pleasure to be - at the Redhouse in Merthyr...
0:02:39 > 0:02:42- ..for one of the highlights - of the Welsh literary year.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45- There are ten awards and 12,000 - to be won.
0:02:46 > 0:02:49- For the next hour, we'll - concentrate on some of Wales'...
0:02:50 > 0:02:52- ..best contemporary authors.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58- The adjudicators started reading - tonight's books over a year ago.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02- The Welsh-language adjudicators - have read over 50 works.
0:03:02 > 0:03:06- The English-language adjudicators - have read more than 90 volumes.
0:03:06 > 0:03:09- In what has been a strong year - for Welsh literature...
0:03:10 > 0:03:13- ..I'm sure you'll agree - that reaching the shortlist...
0:03:13 > 0:03:15- ..is quite an achievement.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18- Please show them your appreciation.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26- Let's move on to our first award.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29- Literature Wales would like - to thank Golwg 360...
0:03:30 > 0:03:32- ..for their support - once again this year...
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- ..in sponsoring - the People's Choice Award.
0:03:36 > 0:03:39- The award that gives those - who buy and read the books...
0:03:39 > 0:03:41- ..the chance to vote.
0:03:41 > 0:03:46- Presenting the award, please welcome - Owain Schiavone from Golwg 360.
0:03:52 > 0:03:57- I'm very happy to announce that the - 2016 People's Choice Award winner...
0:03:57 > 0:03:59- ..is Y Bwthyn by Caryl Lewis.
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- Caryl, many congratulations for - winning the People's Choice Award.
0:04:11 > 0:04:15- That suggests that you know your - audience and know what they want.
0:04:15 > 0:04:17- But for whom do you write?
0:04:18 > 0:04:21- I always joke - that my mother's audience...
0:04:22 > 0:04:25- ..would be sitting in front - of her in a concert...
0:04:26 > 0:04:30- ..but my audience are sitting in - their beds in their pyjamas...
0:04:30 > 0:04:33- ..with a packet of Jaffa Cakes, - just like I do!
0:04:36 > 0:04:38- I try to write what touches people.
0:04:39 > 0:04:41- Books full of feeling, maybe.
0:04:42 > 0:04:43- When I have read a book...
0:04:45 > 0:04:54- ..I like to have been on a journey, - to have felt something.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58- That's the only thing I try to do.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01- I want to touch people - and to be honest by doing so.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05- I'm delighted - and this award is so pretty.
0:05:06 > 0:05:11- Many congratulations, the winner - of the People's Choice Award...
0:05:11 > 0:05:12- ..Caryl Lewis.
0:05:19 > 0:05:20- The first category is...
0:05:20 > 0:05:24- ..the Aberystwyth University Welsh - and Celtic Studies Department...
0:05:25 > 0:05:26- ..Poetry Award.
0:05:32 > 0:05:34- "Here's a happy community
0:05:34 > 0:05:37- "Holding Cardiff's golden key;
0:05:37 > 0:05:39- "But despite the witty friends
0:05:40 > 0:05:42- "Youthful bliss that never ends
0:05:43 > 0:05:45- "I long in vain for the scruffy lad
0:05:46 > 0:05:47- "who was a rebel, and was glad
0:05:49 > 0:05:51- "To stand his ground - and not to roam
0:05:51 > 0:05:53- "I'm now an exile with no home
0:05:55 > 0:05:56- "And is there anything so sad
0:05:57 > 0:05:59- "The thawed bravado of that lad?
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- "His freedom has no roots today"
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- Nes Draw - Mererid Hopwood.
0:06:09 > 0:06:11- "There is a song not always heard
0:06:12 > 0:06:14- "A melody that goes unheard
0:06:15 > 0:06:18- "One melody beyond the stars
0:06:18 > 0:06:21- "Beyond this present age of ours
0:06:21 > 0:06:24- "There is no language and no key
0:06:24 > 0:06:27- "That can release this melody...
0:06:27 > 0:06:29- "She will pierce the peaceful heart
0:06:30 > 0:06:32- "She will dance and then depart
0:06:32 > 0:06:34- "She's neither near nor far away
0:06:35 > 0:06:36- "Day or night, no-one can say
0:06:37 > 0:06:40- "They know her tune or harmony
0:06:41 > 0:06:44- "Or the way she touches me"
0:06:46 > 0:06:50- Eiliadau Tragwyddol - Cen Williams.
0:06:52 > 0:06:57- "Everyone is an island sometimes
0:06:58 > 0:07:00- "When the waves beat the shore
0:07:00 > 0:07:03- "And the beaches are seaweed scars
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- "Like conscience, after the storm
0:07:06 > 0:07:07- "Lonely are those hours
0:07:08 > 0:07:10- "Before small ripples return
0:07:10 > 0:07:12- "To tickle the scar
0:07:12 > 0:07:14- "And caress the smooth virgin beach
0:07:15 > 0:07:19- "Once, when I saw a naked footprint
0:07:19 > 0:07:21- "In the ebb sand
0:07:21 > 0:07:23- "I knew there was order
0:07:23 > 0:07:26- "And that someone... somewhere
0:07:26 > 0:07:29- "Like Bendigeidfran before them
0:07:29 > 0:07:32- "Was bridging two lands"
0:07:43 > 0:07:46- This volume will continue - to enchant us for a long time.
0:07:46 > 0:07:49- The winner of the poetry category - this year...
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- ..is Nes Draw by Mererid Hopwood.
0:08:10 > 0:08:12- Many congratulations to you.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24- This is your first collection - of poetry for adults.
0:08:25 > 0:08:27- It seems to have been - very carefully planned.
0:08:29 > 0:08:32- How difficult was it to - decide when it was ready?
0:08:33 > 0:08:35- That was the most difficult thing.
0:08:42 > 0:08:45- It was so difficult to select the - poems I wanted to include.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- I'd like to thank those people - who I named in the book...
0:08:55 > 0:08:57- ..for giving me so much support.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- Lleucu mentioned the - themes in your work.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15- Pacifism and the love of - fellow humans.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28- There are a lot of themes - brewing inside me.
0:09:34 > 0:09:37- I'd Like To Encourage All Authors - to keep writing...
0:09:40 > 0:09:43- ..we Need To Express A Welsh - sense of identity...
0:09:43 > 0:09:45- ..using imagination and - literary skills.
0:09:46 > 0:09:47- After the break...
0:09:48 > 0:09:51- ..we'll have the fiction, creative - non-fiction and main prizes.
0:09:52 > 0:09:53- Subtitles
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- The second category is - the Welsh-language Fiction Award.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- Llion Pryderi Roberts - presents the adjudication.
0:10:13 > 0:10:14- Norte - Jon Gower.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22- "Perhaps you haven't seen a land - on its knees...
0:10:23 > 0:10:27- "..desperately pleading, - but that's what Hondiragwa was...
0:10:27 > 0:10:31- "..or Hondibloodyragwa as it was - known by its inhabitants...
0:10:32 > 0:10:35- "..by every living soul who tried - to earn their crust there...
0:10:36 > 0:10:39- "..while sheltering - from the sun's blowtorch.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- "The merciless sun. - The unforgiving sun.
0:10:44 > 0:10:47- "The heat in itself - would have been enough...
0:10:47 > 0:10:50- "..to keep a country - crouched down...
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- "..to grind it down - to the ground, even."
0:10:54 > 0:10:55- Rifiera Reu - Dewi Prysor.
0:10:57 > 0:11:00- "When did the world stop partying? - A big question, but simple enough.
0:11:00 > 0:11:03- "Why couldn't people - come together to have fun...
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- "..with neither care - nor rules nor admission fee...
0:11:09 > 0:11:12- "..to dance and drink - to proper music all night...
0:11:13 > 0:11:16- "..without having the hands - of ugly gorillas in black suits...
0:11:17 > 0:11:19- "..go through their pockets - on the way in?
0:11:19 > 0:11:22- "Why were there no places - for that to happen?
0:11:22 > 0:11:24- "Why was that against the law?
0:11:24 > 0:11:26- "Why was having fun illegal?
0:11:26 > 0:11:27- "Why? Why? Why?"
0:11:31 > 0:11:35- Y Bwthyn - Caryl Lewis.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- "The kite had become still - like the air.
0:11:39 > 0:11:43- "Its eyes were fixed on a meal - that was rustling among the bracken.
0:11:43 > 0:11:47- "The day was drawing to a close too, - and the mood had changed.
0:11:49 > 0:11:53- "Enoch watched the kite - with his watery blue eyes.
0:11:54 > 0:11:59- "Tyddyn Isaf stood empty now in the - middle of the purple heather...
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- "..its whitewash faded and grey.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- "Enoch felt his weakness too.
0:12:07 > 0:12:11- "He hadn't been able to sing today; - his grief was a heavy stone...
0:12:11 > 0:12:16- "..in his throat and he returned two - or three times to the graveside...
0:12:16 > 0:12:20- "..knowing that he would have - to leave her there in the end..."
0:12:24 > 0:12:28- ..the winner of the fiction category - is Y Bwthyn by Caryl Lewis.
0:12:52 > 0:12:53- Congratulations.
0:12:53 > 0:12:54- Congratulations.- - Thank you.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57- It's a novel situated - in rural Wales...
0:12:58 > 0:13:02- ..with father, son and stranger - living on a mountain farm.
0:13:02 > 0:13:05- There are some very believable - characters.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08- Do you start with characters - or the story?
0:13:10 > 0:13:11- I always start with a character.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15- I ask the character - where it wants to go next.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18- The location is a character - in itself.
0:13:19 > 0:13:22- I wanted to portray the community, - the landscape...
0:13:24 > 0:13:30- ..and try to do it justice.
0:13:32 > 0:13:36- It's a world that has changed, - and continues to change...
0:13:37 > 0:13:38- ..even about to end.
0:13:40 > 0:13:44- How important is it to record - this way of life before it ends?
0:13:44 > 0:13:45- It's so very important.
0:13:46 > 0:13:50- Not just to record what happens - but to use the language.
0:13:50 > 0:13:55- If the artist uses paint, I have to - use the words of the mountain...
0:13:56 > 0:13:59- ..to portray the way of life.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- When I researched the novel, - I spoke with Gomer James...
0:14:05 > 0:14:09- ..who had been raised - on a mountain farm near Ponterwyd.
0:14:11 > 0:14:16- I will have to buy him a bottle - of whisky now.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19- I told him that the way of life - was ending.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- He leant forward and said "Where do - you think the mountain is going?".
0:14:28 > 0:14:30- It's a process of loss - and reclaiming.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- We must try and do justice - to this way of life...
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- ..and the culture - which we are going to lose.
0:14:39 > 0:14:45- It's located in West Wales but you - also convey some worldwide themes.
0:14:47 > 0:14:52- I believe that on a small canvas, - you can portray so much more.
0:14:53 > 0:14:58- I'm trying to observe - our own square mile.
0:15:00 > 0:15:06- After marrying, I moved to the - area where this novel is located.
0:15:07 > 0:15:11- It's my adoptive home where my - children are being raised.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14- My husband, Aled, - farms the mountain too.
0:15:15 > 0:15:20- We visit the mountain ourselves.
0:15:20 > 0:15:26- It's part of my life which I wanted - to share with other people.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29- Thanks for sharing that part - of your life.
0:15:29 > 0:15:32- Many congratulations, Caryl Lewis.
0:15:38 > 0:15:42- We move on to the Open University - Creative Non-Fiction Award...
0:15:48 > 0:15:51- Dyddiau Olaf Owain Glyndwr - - Gruffydd Aled Williams.
0:15:52 > 0:15:54- "Owain's state of mind - in his final years...
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- "..can only be perceived - through the window of imagination...
0:15:59 > 0:16:02- "..and the picture that presents - itself is not a pleasant one.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- "His personal losses were terrible:
0:16:06 > 0:16:08- "His family - was shattered and destroyed.
0:16:09 > 0:16:12- "His wife had disappeared into an - English prison...
0:16:13 > 0:16:16- "..and many of his children had - died either in battle or in jail.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- "He'd also lost his property and - lands, his people's ancient...
0:16:22 > 0:16:24- "..his people's - ancient birthright...
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- "On top of all that was the agony - of knowing that his revolt...
0:16:30 > 0:16:34- "..had been a failure and - that all the effort and sacrifice...
0:16:34 > 0:16:36- "..had to all appearances - been in vain."
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- Pam Na Fu Cymru - Simon Brooks.
0:16:43 > 0:16:46- "Why is Wales today - not a Welsh-speaking country?
0:16:47 > 0:16:49- "Why is Wales today - not an independent country?
0:16:50 > 0:16:55- "How could a country that in 1850 - was monoglot Welsh-speaking...
0:16:55 > 0:16:57- "..over most of its territory...
0:16:58 > 0:17:02- "..be within an ace of losing - the language a hundred years later?
0:17:02 > 0:17:06- "The main reason for that is that no - Welsh national movement...
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- "..emerged during the 19th Century.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14- "This was the age of nationalism - for small countries.
0:17:16 > 0:17:19- "But there was - no such surge of pride in Wales."
0:17:22 > 0:17:24- Is-deitla'n Unig - - Emyr Glyn Williams.
0:17:27 > 0:17:31- "What I mean is that cinema - is just as powerful...
0:17:32 > 0:17:33- "..and important an art form...
0:17:34 > 0:17:37- "..as painting, drama, - literature and sculpture.
0:17:37 > 0:17:41- "And in the everyday world, this - means that the viewer is affected...
0:17:42 > 0:17:45- "..and changed by coming - into contact with the film...
0:17:46 > 0:17:50- "..in the same way as any work of - art can affect us as individuals...
0:17:51 > 0:17:53- "For your information...
0:17:53 > 0:17:57- "..for me, television - is a medium and cinema is art."
0:18:10 > 0:18:13- After reading, thinking, discussing - and not much arguing...
0:18:13 > 0:18:16- ..the three of us - are proud to announce...
0:18:16 > 0:18:20- ..that the winner of - the Creative Non-fiction category...
0:18:20 > 0:18:24- ..is Dyddiau Olaf Owain Glyndwr - by Gruffydd Aled Williams.
0:18:38 > 0:18:39- Many congratulations to you.
0:18:39 > 0:18:40- Many congratulations to you.- - Thank you.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- You start the book by saying - a few mysteries can never be solved.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50- One of these - is what happened to Owain Glyndwr.
0:18:50 > 0:18:53- However, you go through - the facts in detail.
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- Why are you so interested - in Owain Glyndwr?
0:18:58 > 0:19:00- I was raised - in the Glyndyfrdwy area.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04- I'd grown up - with the history of Owain Glyndwr.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11- I also studied poetry - written for Owain Glyndwr...
0:19:12 > 0:19:13- ..by bards such as Iolo Goch.
0:19:15 > 0:19:16- So I was interested in him.
0:19:17 > 0:19:21- Historians have written - excellent books on Owain Glyndwr...
0:19:22 > 0:19:28- ..but because of a lack - of hard historical evidence...
0:19:28 > 0:19:32- ..there wasn't much - about Glyndwr's final days.
0:19:32 > 0:19:33- They were a mystery.
0:19:35 > 0:19:39- My book is like a detective story.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44- But in contrast to most of them, - the mystery isn't solved at the end.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48- You can't solve everything.
0:19:49 > 0:19:52- You could argue - it's two books in one.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55- There are notes - and detailed scholarly work.
0:19:56 > 0:19:59- But the narrative is readable.
0:19:59 > 0:20:04- How important was it that you wrote - a widely-appealing book?
0:20:04 > 0:20:09- I may have wasted my life writing - overly-academic discourses!
0:20:09 > 0:20:11- It was very nice writing a book...
0:20:12 > 0:20:16- ..where I tried to appeal - to a different reader.
0:20:17 > 0:20:21- A wider audience than the one - I've previously written for.
0:20:22 > 0:20:27- I have to say I've enjoyed writing - this book more than any other.
0:20:28 > 0:20:30- The judges also enjoyed it.
0:20:31 > 0:20:34- Gruffydd Aled Williams, - many congratulations to you.
0:20:35 > 0:20:39- We now know the winners - in each of the three categories.
0:20:39 > 0:20:44- We will now discover - the name of the overall winner.
0:20:59 > 0:21:02- All three of us felt that the - undeniable craft of the author...
0:21:02 > 0:21:06- ..succeeded in presenting a rich - and complex world to the reader.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08- It's a true masterpiece.
0:21:08 > 0:21:12- It's my pleasure to announce that - this year's Book of the Year is...
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- ..Y Bwthyn by Caryl Lewis.
0:21:40 > 0:21:42- Caryl, - you're back for the third time.
0:21:42 > 0:21:43- Many congratulations.
0:21:44 > 0:21:46- You're a full-time writer.
0:21:47 > 0:21:51- Does the process of writing - become easier as time goes on?
0:21:51 > 0:21:55- You're not a stranger to this - competition. You've won in the past.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58- The older you get, - the more uncertain you are.
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- I'm sure many authors - will agree with me.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08- There are other complications. - Children for instance.
0:22:09 > 0:22:11- Writing patterns have to change.
0:22:11 > 0:22:14- When I was writing Y Bwthyn, - I developed a bad back.
0:22:15 > 0:22:18- I was out here with Guto - and had to write over my big belly.
0:22:19 > 0:22:20- Time is also a problem.
0:22:22 > 0:22:25- I'm delighted and I feel - very honoured to be an author.
0:22:27 > 0:22:32- I work with lots of enthusiastic - and talented people.
0:22:34 > 0:22:37- I'd like to thank Y Lolfa - for their constant support...
0:22:38 > 0:22:42- ..and to Meinir - for editing the book...
0:22:43 > 0:22:47- ..and for putting up with me when I - turned up there with Jaffa Cakes.
0:22:47 > 0:22:50- She made cups of tea for me - and never said "Oh no"...
0:22:50 > 0:22:52- ..when I turned up with my ideas.
0:22:53 > 0:22:54- They're always welcoming.
0:22:55 > 0:23:00- I'm lucky that my job is doing what - I like to do, what I love to do.
0:23:00 > 0:23:05- I would write anyway but to have - recognition from readers firstly...
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- ..and secondly from the adjudicators - means so much to me.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11- One of your main characters, Owen, - is also a writer.
0:23:12 > 0:23:16- He's symbolic of the importance - of words. What is the significance?
0:23:16 > 0:23:19- It's a novel about roots, - about culture...
0:23:19 > 0:23:21- ..and about - the process of writing.
0:23:23 > 0:23:27- It's about acknowledging and having - confidence in our own culture.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30- There's a close relationship - between Owen...
0:23:31 > 0:23:32- ..and the hare on the cover.
0:23:35 > 0:23:40- If you're not familiar with hares, - they don't live in underground dens.
0:23:40 > 0:23:44- They live on the earth surface.
0:23:44 > 0:23:49- They live on their nerves. They're - in danger. They have no roots.
0:23:50 > 0:23:53- If we don't know and have confidence - in our culture...
0:23:53 > 0:23:55- ..that's what happens to us.
0:23:56 > 0:23:58- It's not good for the spirit.
0:23:58 > 0:24:01- That's what I was - trying to convey...
0:24:01 > 0:24:03- ..as he gets to know - his surroundings.
0:24:04 > 0:24:07- The word 'cynefin' - is difficult to translate.
0:24:07 > 0:24:11- It means more than 'area', it's a - feeling for culture and way of life.
0:24:12 > 0:24:15- As he becomes familiar with that, - he finds his voice.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18- You've certainly found - your own voice.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21- The winner - of the 2016 Book of the Year.
0:24:22 > 0:24:23- Many congratulations.
0:24:24 > 0:24:27- Congratulations to all the winners.
0:24:27 > 0:24:30- After the break, - we'll hear from the adjudicators.
0:24:31 > 0:24:38- Join us for the discussion - after the break.
0:24:38 > 0:24:38- Subtitles
0:24:38 > 0:24:40- Subtitles- - Subtitles
0:24:58 > 0:25:01- We got a look at the adjudicators - during the ceremony.
0:25:02 > 0:25:05- We'll hear more from two of them - about their decisions now.
0:25:05 > 0:25:09- Welcome to Llion Pryderi Roberts, - a lecturer at Cardiff University...
0:25:10 > 0:25:12- ..and to the author, Lleucu Roberts.
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Fifty books to read in a year, - but what were you looking for?
0:25:16 > 0:25:18- I was looking for readable books...
0:25:18 > 0:25:21- ..but also ones - which excited me as a reader...
0:25:22 > 0:25:25- ..and as someone - who's interested in literature.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28- Books which reached - a certain standard...
0:25:28 > 0:25:30- ..and as I said earlier...
0:25:30 > 0:25:35- ..books which will be a shop window - for our literature and culture.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39- Lleucu, were the winners - clear from the start?
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- Some of the books - really packed a punch...
0:25:43 > 0:25:45- ..and they will stand out - from the beginning.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48- A second reading is often needed.
0:25:49 > 0:25:51- As far as the best books - are concerned...
0:25:53 > 0:25:57- ..the first instinctive reaction - is really half the job, if not more.
0:26:02 > 0:26:05- Let's begin with the first category, - poetry.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09- Mererid Hopwood took the prize - with her volume, Nes Draw.
0:26:10 > 0:26:12- It's fair to say, Llion, - that the poems...
0:26:13 > 0:26:17- ..have been put together into - a collection quite purposefully.
0:26:18 > 0:26:21- Yes, there is intention - behind any volume of poetry.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25- One did feel that there was - a purpose here.
0:26:25 > 0:26:29- There are poems - at the start of the volume...
0:26:29 > 0:26:33- ..which indicate to us - what she's trying to do.
0:26:34 > 0:26:38- There is mention of a secret room, - the room of the imagination...
0:26:39 > 0:26:41- ..the space that is imagination.
0:26:42 > 0:26:45- I think Mererid is trying - to create a volume...
0:26:45 > 0:26:48- ..which produces that space - for us as readers...
0:26:49 > 0:26:52- ..so we can go there - and where anything is possible.
0:26:52 > 0:26:56- Where these contradictions, - which she is very fond of...
0:26:56 > 0:26:59- ..are also possible - and enrich our understanding.
0:26:59 > 0:27:03- Nes Draw itself - is an interesting contradiction.
0:27:03 > 0:27:07- There are some big themes in - Mererid's commentary on the world.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10- Is her voice always a clear one?
0:27:11 > 0:27:14- Yes, there is love for others - and pacifism...
0:27:15 > 0:27:19- ..quite a few Waldo-esque themes - that I alluded to earlier.
0:27:20 > 0:27:25- There are certainly some - very personal poems here.
0:27:26 > 0:27:29- There is soul searching...
0:27:30 > 0:27:36- ..and an element of some deeper, - more mystical, searching.
0:27:36 > 0:27:40- She grapples with religion - to a certain degree...
0:27:40 > 0:27:43- .."I cannot be seen in Dolwar Fach".
0:27:44 > 0:27:47- On one level, - they transcend religion.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- They are very spiritual poems, - very personal poems.
0:27:51 > 0:27:56- And yet, they are so out of - this world and transcendent too.
0:27:57 > 0:28:00- I think they portray - Mererid's character.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03- There's a profundity to them.
0:28:04 > 0:28:06- Excellent.
0:28:06 > 0:28:09- On the back of the volume, - it says...
0:28:09 > 0:28:13- .."From between the black and white - all imagination will stem".
0:28:14 > 0:28:17- With every reading - one finds another layer of meaning.
0:28:18 > 0:28:21- Yes, and I don't think - many of these poems...
0:28:22 > 0:28:25- ..should be read only once - and then discarded.
0:28:26 > 0:28:31- He certainly challenges the reader, - which is a good thing.
0:28:31 > 0:28:37- There is definitely that kind - of atmosphere within this volume.
0:28:38 > 0:28:42- I return to the idea - I was talking about earlier...
0:28:42 > 0:28:45- ..the idea of offering us a space.
0:28:46 > 0:28:50- Yes, there are big themes here - but she also varies her target...
0:28:50 > 0:28:53- ..and varies her metre.
0:28:54 > 0:28:57- There is strict metre - and metrical compositions.
0:28:57 > 0:29:01- She shows her full - rich repertoire of poetry metres.
0:29:02 > 0:29:04- We move on to something - very different...
0:29:05 > 0:29:08- ..Dyddiau Olaf Owain Glyndwr - by Gruffydd Aled Williams.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12- We don't get answers - to all the questions...
0:29:12 > 0:29:16- ..but does this book give us - a new portrayal of Owain Glyndwr?
0:29:16 > 0:29:18- Lleucu?
0:29:18 > 0:29:20- Yes, it does.
0:29:20 > 0:29:23- It brings the person alive...
0:29:23 > 0:29:27- ..which is quite a feat considering - six centuries have gone by.
0:29:27 > 0:29:31- He does this by using - the scant evidence that's available.
0:29:32 > 0:29:36- He paints a portrait of a person, - an old person in his loneliness...
0:29:36 > 0:29:40- ..a person who has lost so much, - who has failed on many levels.
0:29:41 > 0:29:44- That person who is so different...
0:29:45 > 0:29:49- ..to the myth portrayed for so long.
0:29:50 > 0:29:54- He goes beyond the myth.
0:29:54 > 0:29:58- In that way, it is more insightful - in this age which is without myths.
0:30:01 > 0:30:05- Owain Glyndwr, the man, - really comes across clearly.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08- It was quite a feat.
0:30:08 > 0:30:13- He is a scholar who is obviously - interested in the subject.
0:30:13 > 0:30:15- What appealed to you, Llion?
0:30:16 > 0:30:19- Was it the way he dealt - with the new evidence?
0:30:19 > 0:30:23- Yes, as you said, he is a scholar - fully in charge of his subject.
0:30:23 > 0:30:27- It's also the way - he deals with this material.
0:30:27 > 0:30:31- He shows an understanding - of the facts, of course...
0:30:31 > 0:30:38- ..and also of the myths and fables, - traditions which are so important.
0:30:39 > 0:30:42- There is a respect - towards those traditions.
0:30:42 > 0:30:44- It's not insignificant...
0:30:45 > 0:30:49- ..that he closes the volume - with a mention of the prophecy.
0:30:50 > 0:30:54- There's also an understanding of - the mentality of the Middle Ages.
0:30:54 > 0:30:58- In that way, it's a contribution to - our understanding of our history...
0:30:58 > 0:31:00- ..and of our nationalism.
0:31:01 > 0:31:04- Let's move on to the novels - and three very different novels...
0:31:05 > 0:31:08- ..which are typical - of the authors themselves.
0:31:08 > 0:31:12- Dewi Prysor's big party - is full of colourful characters.
0:31:12 > 0:31:15- Jon Gower takes us - on an incredibly amusing journey...
0:31:16 > 0:31:18- ..both geographically - and imaginatively.
0:31:19 > 0:31:23- Caryl is then so concise in her - prose. Is that why she won, Lleucu?
0:31:24 > 0:31:25- Definitely.
0:31:25 > 0:31:28- There isn't one wasted word - from her.
0:31:28 > 0:31:31- I so admire the way she writes.
0:31:31 > 0:31:35- She writes so meticulously - about nature and agriculture.
0:31:35 > 0:31:38- She truly knows - what she's talking about.
0:31:39 > 0:31:42- There is a conciseness - beyond that too.
0:31:43 > 0:31:51- She allows the characters to develop - through their actions and behaviour.
0:31:52 > 0:31:55- That's how she explains everything.
0:31:55 > 0:31:58- She does not have to spell it out - as an author.
0:31:59 > 0:32:01- The characters do that for her.
0:32:02 > 0:32:07- Their relationships are explained in - their interactions with each other.
0:32:07 > 0:32:11- She has completed no mean task - on that level.
0:32:11 > 0:32:15- Her conciseness in the book - is the key to it all.
0:32:15 > 0:32:18- It's a novel set - in a specific place in Wales...
0:32:19 > 0:32:23- ..but is it fair to say that - the themes travel much further?
0:32:23 > 0:32:25- Yes.
0:32:26 > 0:32:28- Myself and the other judges...
0:32:28 > 0:32:33- ..felt that she had certainly set - herself a challenge with this novel.
0:32:33 > 0:32:36- She tries to do - something very difficult...
0:32:37 > 0:32:39- ..and does it - to a very high standard.
0:32:39 > 0:32:42- She makes it look very easy - at the same time.
0:32:42 > 0:32:45- She deals with Wales...
0:32:46 > 0:32:49- ..and a very specific part - of the country.
0:32:50 > 0:32:53- The treatment within the novel...
0:32:54 > 0:32:58- .of the situation the characters - find themselves in...
0:32:59 > 0:33:01- ..the central relationship...
0:33:01 > 0:33:06- ..and the relationship they have - with their habitat and each other...
0:33:06 > 0:33:08- ..has a much wider dimension.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12- We've discussed the winners - of the three categories...
0:33:12 > 0:33:15- ..but this is a Book of the Year - competition.
0:33:16 > 0:33:19- One book had to win, - so why was that Y Bwthyn, Lleucu?
0:33:20 > 0:33:23- Great literature - makes your heart beat faster.
0:33:23 > 0:33:27- This really gives me palpitations!
0:33:27 > 0:33:30- With every reading, - you see so much more.
0:33:30 > 0:33:34- I think it is up there...
0:33:34 > 0:33:38- ..with any novel - anywhere around the world.
0:33:38 > 0:33:44- She has conveyed something that is - far bigger than Ceredigion...
0:33:44 > 0:33:48- ..far bigger than Wales, - and so concisely.
0:33:48 > 0:33:51- She conveys this change - in the world...
0:33:51 > 0:33:55- ..and how the new world - closes in on the old world.
0:33:55 > 0:34:00- There are so many layers and every - reading reveals so much more.
0:34:02 > 0:34:06- Llion, how happy were you that the - public agreed with the adjudicators?
0:34:06 > 0:34:09- Caryl also won - the People's Choice Award.
0:34:10 > 0:34:14- It's obviously nice to hear - that the public agrees with us!
0:34:15 > 0:34:18- As far as I'm concerned...
0:34:18 > 0:34:21- ..the novel really grabbed me - on the first reading.
0:34:22 > 0:34:26- It then kept my attention again - on the second and third readings.
0:34:27 > 0:34:31- Jams Niclas once said - about the Chair competition...
0:34:31 > 0:34:35- ..that literature - can disarm adjudicators.
0:34:35 > 0:34:39- I felt just that when reading - this novel. It took my breath away.
0:34:39 > 0:34:42- Llion Pryderi Roberts - and Lleucu Roberts...
0:34:42 > 0:34:46- ..thank you for the chat - and your work during the year.
0:34:46 > 0:34:49- The adjudicators - decided on the winners...
0:34:49 > 0:34:53- ..but everyone has an opinion - about the books on the shortlists.
0:34:53 > 0:34:54- After the break...
0:34:55 > 0:34:59- ..we'll hear from playwright - Ian Rowlands and critic Eiry Miles.
0:34:59 > 0:35:03- Did they agree with the decision? - We'll find out in a few minutes.
0:35:05 > 0:35:06- Subtitles
0:35:10 > 0:35:11- Welcome back.
0:35:13 > 0:35:17- Earlier on, Caryl Lewis won the - Welsh Book Of The Year 2016 award.
0:35:18 > 0:35:21- That was for her novel, Y Bwthyn.
0:35:21 > 0:35:25- Thomas Morris won the 2016 - Wales Book Of The Year award....
0:35:25 > 0:35:28- ..for his collection - of short stories...
0:35:29 > 0:35:31- ..We Don't Know What We're Doing.
0:35:31 > 0:35:34- Congratulations to them - and to all the winners.
0:35:34 > 0:35:37- Two winners and two Triple Crowns.
0:35:37 > 0:35:40- That suggests that the judges - got it right.
0:35:40 > 0:35:44- The judges have had their chance - to justify their decisions.
0:35:44 > 0:35:49- It's now the turn of the readers.
0:35:49 > 0:35:53- I'm joined now by the playwright - and director, Ian Rowlands...
0:35:54 > 0:35:56- ..and critic Eiry Miles.
0:35:56 > 0:35:58- Welcome to the both of you.
0:35:58 > 0:36:02- The public and the judges agree, - but Eiry, what is your reaction?
0:36:03 > 0:36:05- I really enjoyed Y Bwthyn.
0:36:05 > 0:36:09- In the fiction category, - it was between Y Bwthyn and Norte.
0:36:10 > 0:36:13- I was a bit surprised - because quite often...
0:36:13 > 0:36:16- ..the public - and the judges do not agree.
0:36:16 > 0:36:21- There were good things about both - novels, but, no, not a big shock.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25- As far as the competition - promotes reading...
0:36:26 > 0:36:29- ..the judges have surely - made the right decision...
0:36:29 > 0:36:33- ..because after all, Y Bwthyn - will be read and enjoyed.
0:36:33 > 0:36:35- You are right.
0:36:35 > 0:36:38- I'm not sure - it was the brave decision.
0:36:39 > 0:36:42- I would have liked - to have seen Simon winning it.
0:36:42 > 0:36:46- Simon has produced a book - that grabs the zeitgeist...
0:36:46 > 0:36:48- ..especially post-Brexit.
0:36:49 > 0:36:52- It's a very important book - for us Welsh people...
0:36:52 > 0:36:54- ..to read and to consider.
0:36:54 > 0:36:58- I was surprised that Simon - didn't win the factual award.
0:36:58 > 0:37:02- But yes, they have been right...
0:37:03 > 0:37:07- ..because Caryl's book - will be read by hundreds of people.
0:37:08 > 0:37:10- The first category of the night - was poetry.
0:37:11 > 0:37:14- Eiry, you were in favour - of Mererid Hopwood's collection.
0:37:15 > 0:37:16- Why was her collection the best?
0:37:17 > 0:37:19- I enjoyed all three collections.
0:37:20 > 0:37:24- Everything about Mererid's - collection was excellent.
0:37:25 > 0:37:29- The poems ranged from the profound - to the light-hearted.
0:37:30 > 0:37:34- She expresses - her belief in pacifism...
0:37:35 > 0:37:37- ..but there are also - some angry poems.
0:37:38 > 0:37:42- That really surprises you - as Mererid is such a gentle soul.
0:37:42 > 0:37:47- I enjoyed the content but the style - of the book is very classical.
0:37:48 > 0:37:50- It could easily - have been published in the 1960s.
0:37:52 > 0:37:54- That really adds to the experience.
0:37:55 > 0:37:57- It's the whole package.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02- Three different poets in very - different periods of their careers.
0:38:02 > 0:38:07- One poet in the summer of his days, - one in her autumn...
0:38:08 > 0:38:10- ..and one in his winter.
0:38:11 > 0:38:13- That's quite interesting.
0:38:13 > 0:38:16- I enjoyed Eiliadau Tragwyddol - by Cen Williams.
0:38:17 > 0:38:21- He talks about time in one poem, - as "Ticking towards his ending".
0:38:23 > 0:38:27- Actually, - it's "Ticking towards the darkness".
0:38:27 > 0:38:31- It's a collection by someone - who is ticking towards his darkness.
0:38:32 > 0:38:35- I liked the idea of a man - reinterpreting his life...
0:38:36 > 0:38:39- ..and looking back to see - what his life was really worth...
0:38:40 > 0:38:43- ..what were the lives of those - ahead and behind him worth.
0:38:44 > 0:38:47- It was very interesting.
0:38:48 > 0:38:53- His poems aren't as concise - as Mererid's...
0:38:53 > 0:38:56- ..and I think her work is fantastic.
0:38:57 > 0:39:00- But I would have chosen Cen instead - of Mererid in a close contest.
0:39:02 > 0:39:05- Mererid came to the fore...
0:39:05 > 0:39:09- ..with some saying that - it's a collection to treasure.
0:39:09 > 0:39:13- Will we look back at Nes Draw - in years to come in those terms?
0:39:13 > 0:39:17- I think I will look back with - my children on this collection.
0:39:17 > 0:39:19- It's an excellent collection.
0:39:20 > 0:39:22- To the novels now.
0:39:22 > 0:39:28- In a good year, - you would expect the shortlist...
0:39:28 > 0:39:30- ..to reflect the variety - that we have in Wales.
0:39:31 > 0:39:34- Three very different novels, - with three distinctive voices.
0:39:35 > 0:39:37- Ian, did you enjoy - the three novels?
0:39:37 > 0:39:40- Yes, for very different reasons.
0:39:41 > 0:39:44- I think Norte should have won.
0:39:45 > 0:39:48- Caryl's novel was superb. - Her writing is excellent.
0:39:49 > 0:39:53- Dewi Prysor had plenty of energy.
0:39:56 > 0:40:00- I know Dewi and his world. It was - certainly a portrayal of his world.
0:40:00 > 0:40:03- I loved reading that book.
0:40:04 > 0:40:08- It needed some editing perhaps - and the climax wasn't that good.
0:40:08 > 0:40:12- Norte would have been my choice.
0:40:13 > 0:40:22- It sets out the Welsh outside Wales.
0:40:23 > 0:40:25- Caryl Lewis is a bit too easy.
0:40:25 > 0:40:29- Dewi Prysor is a novel - from our square mile.
0:40:29 > 0:40:32- Norte offered us something different - as Welsh people.
0:40:33 > 0:40:34- Eiry, what did you think?
0:40:35 > 0:40:36- I agree.
0:40:37 > 0:40:40- I was amazed - at how he created these worlds.
0:40:40 > 0:40:44- He wrote about wolves in Alaska - and then a fish factory.
0:40:44 > 0:40:46- It was all so believable.
0:40:47 > 0:40:50- He took us on this journey - and I sometimes lost my breath.
0:40:51 > 0:40:55- I liked the way that in some really - profound moments there was humour.
0:40:57 > 0:41:01- He talks about a Toblerone...
0:41:03 > 0:41:06- He talks about a Toblerone...
0:41:06 > 0:41:10- ..in a section about abject poverty - in Midwest America.
0:41:11 > 0:41:15- I felt that it was an ambitious - and imaginative novel.
0:41:18 > 0:41:21- Caryl Lewis was the winner.
0:41:22 > 0:41:26- Why do you think the judges - went for her novel?
0:41:27 > 0:41:30- We've already said that - it will be a very popular novel.
0:41:31 > 0:41:38- It has been written very well - for a certain type of reader...
0:41:38 > 0:41:41- ..who will certainly enjoy it.
0:41:41 > 0:41:43- She knows her audience well.
0:41:45 > 0:41:48- She writes about people that we can - believe in straight away.
0:41:49 > 0:41:52- The characters are well-rounded.
0:41:53 > 0:41:58- I live in rural Wales and I felt - that I really knew these people.
0:42:01 > 0:42:06- Although I enjoyed it, - I felt that it ended very quickly.
0:42:08 > 0:42:13- I'd have liked her - to have left it more open-ended.
0:42:15 > 0:42:21- However, it is an exceptional novel.
0:42:23 > 0:42:27- She knows that she has an audience - of people who'll like it.
0:42:28 > 0:42:29- I feel it's too Welsh.
0:42:30 > 0:42:32- There's a novel...
0:42:32 > 0:42:37- ..called Independent People - by Halldor Laxness from Iceland...
0:42:37 > 0:42:40- ..which deals - with the same kind of world.
0:42:40 > 0:42:43- A man in a cottage - who restores it into a home...
0:42:44 > 0:42:47- ..where a family is raised - on the side of a mountain.
0:42:47 > 0:42:50- There's something universal - about it.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54- I didn't think - it was an universal novel.
0:42:54 > 0:42:56- I thought it was parochial.
0:42:56 > 0:42:59- The ending is too simplistic too.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02- It's very good - but it's not my thing.
0:43:08 > 0:43:12- It's incredibly varied. Every year, - I say I don't know what we'll get.
0:43:13 > 0:43:16- This year, Owain Glyndwr, films and - the future of the Welsh language.
0:43:17 > 0:43:19- Ian, - they're totally different books.
0:43:19 > 0:43:21- What appealed to you personally?
0:43:21 > 0:43:23- I've already said...
0:43:23 > 0:43:27- ..Simon's book is superb - and it captures the zeitgeist.
0:43:28 > 0:43:31- Gruffydd Aled Williams' book - is incredibly interesting.
0:43:32 > 0:43:36- But at the start, it starts by not - stating anything categorically...
0:43:36 > 0:43:39- ..about Owain Glyndwr's final days.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43- I thought, I'll pour - through this book for a few hours.
0:43:43 > 0:43:46- I'm going to invest time - in the book.
0:43:47 > 0:43:51- What are we going to discover if - you're not telling us anything new?
0:43:51 > 0:43:53- He says the odd new thing...
0:43:54 > 0:43:56- ..about places - Owain Glyndwr may have visited.
0:43:57 > 0:44:00- What's very interesting - are the poignant parts.
0:44:00 > 0:44:04- The portrayal of Owain Glyndwr - in his old age...
0:44:04 > 0:44:05- ..going from home to home.
0:44:06 > 0:44:10- We see this hero who at one time was - strong and powerful as an old man.
0:44:10 > 0:44:12- That's quite interesting.
0:44:13 > 0:44:15- What appealed to the judges...
0:44:15 > 0:44:19- ..was the balance between facts - and the creative aspect.
0:44:19 > 0:44:21- Would you agree with that, Eiry?
0:44:22 > 0:44:24- No, not exactly.
0:44:25 > 0:44:28- I feel that for me, - the most interesting parts...
0:44:29 > 0:44:33- ..were the parts - that spoke about people's beliefs...
0:44:34 > 0:44:37- ..and visits to houses - in the borders...
0:44:38 > 0:44:40- ..and the interesting characters.
0:44:41 > 0:44:43- If there was more of that...
0:44:44 > 0:44:47- ..and more mention - of the literature of the period...
0:44:48 > 0:44:51- ..I think I would have taken - to the book a bit better.
0:44:51 > 0:44:54- For me, - there too much detail at times.
0:44:54 > 0:44:57- I felt I had to concentrate - as I read it.
0:44:57 > 0:45:00- It's not a book - you could read in the bath.
0:45:00 > 0:45:02- It required you to concentrate.
0:45:03 > 0:45:07- There was an element - of detective work about it too.
0:45:07 > 0:45:10- Apparently, there are stories - behind his research.
0:45:11 > 0:45:14- He's been to these old houses - on the border...
0:45:14 > 0:45:17- ..and some families, to this day...
0:45:17 > 0:45:21- ..still want nothing to do - with Owain Glyndwr.
0:45:21 > 0:45:25- Some rejoice in their Welshness or - their relationship with Welshness.
0:45:26 > 0:45:29- I would like to have known - more about that too.
0:45:29 > 0:45:32- The complexities that still exist - on the Welsh border.
0:45:32 > 0:45:35- That's the area - to which Owain Glyndwr escaped.
0:45:35 > 0:45:38- Isn't it interesting - that we disagree with the judges?
0:45:39 > 0:45:41- Is that the value - of this competition...
0:45:42 > 0:45:44- ..that it drives discussions - like these?
0:45:44 > 0:45:47- Absolutely.
0:45:47 > 0:45:50- Anything that encourages - a discussion about literature...
0:45:51 > 0:45:53- ..and encourages people - to read books...
0:45:53 > 0:45:56- ..they otherwise wouldn't - is a brilliant thing.
0:45:56 > 0:45:59- It reflects well - on us as a small nation...
0:45:59 > 0:46:03- ..that we can produce - such a variety of literature...
0:46:03 > 0:46:05- ..and have discussions - like this one.
0:46:05 > 0:46:07- What do these nine books tell us...
0:46:08 > 0:46:10- ..about the state - of publishing in Wales?
0:46:11 > 0:46:15- In terms of our writers and their - imaginations, it's very healthy.
0:46:16 > 0:46:18- In terms - of the world of publication...
0:46:19 > 0:46:22- ..as I'm married to the woman - who produced Nes Draw...
0:46:23 > 0:46:25- ..I can tell you it isn't healthy.
0:46:25 > 0:46:30- There are problems on the horizon - due to the cuts that have been made.
0:46:30 > 0:46:33- There is a lot of uncertainty - about the future...
0:46:33 > 0:46:37- ..but I can't question - our writers' imaginations.
0:46:37 > 0:46:39- I really enjoyed reading - all nine volumes.
0:46:40 > 0:46:43- I disagreed with the judges - on one or two occasions...
0:46:44 > 0:46:47- ..but the pleasure of reading them - was fantastic.
0:46:47 > 0:46:48- Definitely.
0:46:50 > 0:46:53- There we have it, - plenty to discuss again this year.
0:46:54 > 0:46:57- If you haven't read - some of these books, why not do so?
0:46:57 > 0:47:01- There are great books out there, - so enjoy reading them.
0:47:01 > 0:47:05- From the Redhouse in Merthyr, - thanks for watching and goodbye.
0:47:22 > 0:47:24- S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf.