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0:00:59 > 0:01:03- His real name - was Richard Robert Jones.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07- He could speak over 30 languages.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10- He had a lot of hair, a beard...
0:01:11 > 0:01:16- ..ragged clothes and an overcoat - with books stuffed inside it.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- They say he wore - a horn around his neck...
0:01:21 > 0:01:23- ..and carried a harp.
0:01:31 > 0:01:36- He was fat, with a lot of hair, - a moustache and a beard.
0:01:37 > 0:01:42- Every time he bought a new book, - he had to have a new pocket.
0:01:43 > 0:01:47- My great-great-uncle - did a family tree.
0:01:48 > 0:01:53- He found out that Dic was related - to my great-great-grandmother.
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- The linguist and eccentric, Richard - Robert Jones, has gripped...
0:02:05 > 0:02:09- ..the imagination of people - of all ages, for almost 200 years.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13- Art historian, Peter Lord, has - already been to Staffordshire...
0:02:13 > 0:02:15- ..to find portraits of Dic.
0:02:16 > 0:02:17- His latest research indicates...
0:02:18 > 0:02:21- ..that Dic Aberdaron made a big - contribution to the world of art.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28- I was surprised to hear - that there are more portraits...
0:02:28 > 0:02:32- ..of Dic Aberdaron - than any other Welshman.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35- It's strange that an old tramp - attracted artists...
0:02:35 > 0:02:39- ..more than any other - Welsh man or woman.
0:02:39 > 0:02:43- Other figures have - quite a large iconography...
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- ..for example, Twm o'r Nant, - Christmas Evans...
0:02:46 > 0:02:48- ..Thomas Charles, of course.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52- As far as I can see, apart - from perhaps David Lloyd George...
0:02:53 > 0:02:56- ..no other Welshman - has such a large iconography.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00- David Lloyd George's case - was slightly different.
0:03:00 > 0:03:02- As an international figure...
0:03:02 > 0:03:06- ..he attracted the attention of - political cartoonists, for example.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- But Dic Aberdaron certainly - wins the competition.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12- There's a memorial plaque here.
0:03:12 > 0:03:16- It says, 'Nearby was Cae'r Eos, - the home of Richard Robert Jones...
0:03:16 > 0:03:18- '..Dic Aberdaron, 1780 - 1843.'
0:03:19 > 0:03:23- The house stood - in the middle of this field.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27- Unfortunately, it's gone now, - but that's where it was.
0:03:32 > 0:03:36- According to contemporary evidence, - Dic Aberdaron could speak...
0:03:36 > 0:03:40- ..at least 14 languages fluently - and had a good grasp of 20 more.
0:03:40 > 0:03:44- He left Aberdaron - in his early twenties...
0:03:44 > 0:03:48- ..and spent time improving - his linguistic skills...
0:03:48 > 0:03:51- ..in places like London, - Dover and Liverpool.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54- But our journey to find - portraits of Dic...
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- ..begins at the National - Library of Wales, Aberystwyth.
0:03:59 > 0:04:03- Peter, there's plenty - of original documentation here.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06- Yes, we've found - a number of pictures...
0:04:06 > 0:04:09- ..and examples of - Dic Aberdaron's handwriting...
0:04:09 > 0:04:13- ..indicating how the pictures - developed over the years.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17- Some of the most interesting - are these by William Roos...
0:04:17 > 0:04:21- ..an artisan painter, originally - from Anglesey, who knew Dic well...
0:04:21 > 0:04:24- ..and was a bit - of a tramp, like Dic.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28- This is an original drawing, - perhaps for this oil painting...
0:04:29 > 0:04:31- ..completed after his death.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33- Let's move on to this.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36- It's extremely interesting.
0:04:36 > 0:04:40- This was painted after - Dic Aberdaron's death...
0:04:41 > 0:04:45- ..for the big Rhuddlan - Eisteddfod, 1850.
0:04:45 > 0:04:49- There was link between - the artist, William Roos...
0:04:49 > 0:04:53- ..and John Jones, Talhaiarn, - the Eisteddfod organiser.
0:04:53 > 0:04:58- Roos had painted Talhaiarn that - year, so that was probably the link.
0:04:58 > 0:05:04- This picture, with 'Dic Aberdaron' - written in the bardic alphabet...
0:05:04 > 0:05:08- ..was displayed on stage, - with other famous figures...
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- ..such as Dafydd Ddu Eryri - and Twm o'r Nant...
0:05:13 > 0:05:15- ..as a backdrop to the Eisteddfod.
0:05:15 > 0:05:19- This shows how deeply - the Dic Aberdaron legend...
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- ..had seeped into the national - consciousness by that time...
0:05:24 > 0:05:26- ..seven years after his death.
0:05:40 > 0:05:44- These eleven pictures are a - significant discovery, aren't they?
0:05:44 > 0:05:47- Yes, they're very interesting, - and unusual too.
0:05:48 > 0:05:50- Here, you see 'Ellis Bryn Coch'...
0:05:50 > 0:05:54- ..that's Ellis Owen Ellis, - one of our artisan painters...
0:05:54 > 0:05:59- ..who drew all the pictures - in the famous 'Welsh Punch'.
0:05:59 > 0:06:04- He began working on pictures, - maybe as a commission...
0:06:04 > 0:06:08- ..for an illustrated version - of Dic Aberdaron's life...
0:06:08 > 0:06:10- ..immediately after his death.
0:06:11 > 0:06:15- We follow the story to the end - - I'll now turn over this page...
0:06:17 > 0:06:18- That's it.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- This is very interesting.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25- It shows Dic as he was in Liverpool, - wandering around barefoot.
0:06:26 > 0:06:28- Here he is in his wretched lodgings.
0:06:28 > 0:06:32- 'Richard Robert Jones - in his study at a garret...
0:06:32 > 0:06:34- '..in Midghall Street, Liverpool.'
0:06:42 > 0:06:46- But we found more than paintings - in the National Library.
0:06:46 > 0:06:50- Our research took us - to the bowels of the building.
0:06:53 > 0:06:54- Goodness! Is it heavy?
0:06:54 > 0:06:55- Goodness! Is it heavy?- - Well!
0:06:55 > 0:06:56- It's very heavy.
0:06:56 > 0:06:57- Looks like it.
0:06:57 > 0:06:58- Looks like it.- - Careful.
0:06:58 > 0:06:58- There we are.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59- There we are.- - Heavens!
0:06:59 > 0:07:01- Can you turn it round a bit?
0:07:03 > 0:07:04- Dic Aberdaron.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07- It says so here - Dic Aberdaron.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- It has character.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13- This is a complete mystery. We know - nothing about this sculpture.
0:07:14 > 0:07:18- There are no details in the Library - about its provenance - nothing.
0:07:19 > 0:07:20- How old is it?
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- With naive work like this, - it's very hard to say.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29- I'd date it to the start - of the 20th century.
0:07:31 > 0:07:33- Around 1920.
0:07:33 > 0:07:38- But it's really hard to say - with something as naive as this.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- If we were in the USA...
0:07:41 > 0:07:46- ..this would be publicly displayed - in a very prominent position.
0:07:46 > 0:07:50- This kind of naive art, - what they call folk art...
0:07:51 > 0:07:53- ..is considered very important.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55- We don't appreciate it in Wales?
0:07:55 > 0:07:59- No, we don't. But look at the power - of the image, it's amazing.
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- It's just struck me that perhaps - we're looking at the work...
0:08:08 > 0:08:12- ..of a professional stonemason - who carved lettering on gravestones.
0:08:13 > 0:08:14- He was used to that.
0:08:14 > 0:08:19- Yes, perhaps it was - for an eisteddfod competition...
0:08:19 > 0:08:21- ..a 3D sculpture.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25- That would account - for the difference...
0:08:25 > 0:08:29- ..between the style of the lettering - and the more naive work.
0:08:36 > 0:08:39- A lot of mythology - has grown around Dic.
0:08:39 > 0:08:43- It was said his linguistic skills - were the result of a pact...
0:08:43 > 0:08:48- ..with the Devil, as were - his skills in all kinds of magic.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06- We know for certain that - he was buried here, in St Asaph.
0:09:07 > 0:09:11- On our way to Liverpool, - to search for more artworks...
0:09:11 > 0:09:16- ..we went to the parish church - to see Dic Aberdaron's grave.
0:09:18 > 0:09:21- Why was Dic Aberdaron buried here?
0:09:22 > 0:09:28- St Asaph is on the way to Liverpool, - on Dic's route from Aberdaron.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33- The main reason why he's here - is that he had many friends...
0:09:33 > 0:09:35- ..and assistants in this area.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39- He tried to raise money - to publish a dictionary...
0:09:39 > 0:09:43- ..his life's work, - a Hebrew-Greek-Welsh dictionary.
0:09:43 > 0:09:48- There's an interesting link - with Roos here, through Talhaiarn.
0:09:48 > 0:09:53- The 'englyn' carved - on the gravestone is by Talhaiarn...
0:09:54 > 0:09:58- ..one of the most popular - poets of the day.
0:09:59 > 0:10:02- Soon after Dic Aberdaron's death...
0:10:03 > 0:10:07- ..William Roos painted - two portraits of Talhaiarn.
0:10:08 > 0:10:14- This suggests to me that there was - a small crew of intellectuals...
0:10:14 > 0:10:16- ..artists and poets too.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19- They all knew each other...
0:10:19 > 0:10:23- ..and were all interested - in poor old Dic Aberdaron.
0:10:23 > 0:10:25- # Richard, Richard... #
0:10:25 > 0:10:29- Liverpool intellectuals were - the first to take an interest...
0:10:30 > 0:10:34- ..in Dic Aberdaron and - his remarkable language skills.
0:10:34 > 0:10:38- 200 years after Dic, our journey - also took us to Merseyside.
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0:10:53 > 0:10:56- The son of a Pen Lleyn carpenter, - the legendary linguist...
0:10:56 > 0:11:00- ..Richard Robert Jones came here - to Liverpool in the early 1800s.
0:11:00 > 0:11:05- He spent more time here than - anywhere else until he died in 1843.
0:11:06 > 0:11:11- Art historian Peter Lord came - with me, to learn more about Dic...
0:11:11 > 0:11:16- ..and to try - to find more portraits...
0:11:16 > 0:11:18- ..of the man known as Dic Aberdaron.
0:11:21 > 0:11:27- Why was Dic Aberdaron drawn - to Liverpool, time after time?
0:11:27 > 0:11:31- Dic first came to Liverpool - in 1804 with his father.
0:11:32 > 0:11:35- We were in the middle - of wars with France.
0:11:35 > 0:11:38- There was plenty of work - in the docks...
0:11:38 > 0:11:42- ..while there was - terrible poverty in Wales.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45- The harvest had failed - for several years.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- The Welsh moved to Liverpool - in their thousands...
0:11:50 > 0:11:52- ..and settled here around the docks.
0:11:56 > 0:11:59- From Albert Dock, - we went to Midghall Street...
0:11:59 > 0:12:03- ..where Dic found lodgings, thanks - to the help of influential men...
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- ..like businessman - and historian William Roscoe.
0:12:07 > 0:12:11- This place was named in one - of Ellis Owen Ellis's paintings.
0:12:12 > 0:12:15- But the place has changed a lot - since Dic Aberdaron's day.
0:12:17 > 0:12:20- Hoping to discover - more artworks of Dic...
0:12:20 > 0:12:22- ..we went to the Records Office...
0:12:22 > 0:12:26- ..where we made - a very interesting discovery.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29- We have a letter - which we bought at an auction.
0:12:29 > 0:12:30- I recognise the handwriting.
0:12:30 > 0:12:31- I recognise the handwriting.- - You recognise the handwriting?
0:12:32 > 0:12:33- Yes, I do.
0:12:33 > 0:12:35- We've also got an obituary here...
0:12:36 > 0:12:38- ..from the 'Carnarvon Herald'...
0:12:38 > 0:12:40- ..which calls him Dirty Dic!
0:12:41 > 0:12:42- Dirty Dic?
0:12:43 > 0:12:46- Roscoe's friends called him - the Literary Pig.
0:12:46 > 0:12:47- Oh, dear!
0:12:48 > 0:12:51- With the help - of Research Officer, Roger Hull...
0:12:51 > 0:12:54- ..we found an original letter - by Dic Aberdaron...
0:12:55 > 0:12:59- ..and a new artwork - to add to the list of portraits.
0:13:01 > 0:13:02- Here we have a silhouette.
0:13:02 > 0:13:03- Oh!
0:13:03 > 0:13:04- Oh!- - That reminds me of...
0:13:04 > 0:13:05- I haven't seen that before, - that's new.
0:13:06 > 0:13:07- A new version.
0:13:07 > 0:13:09- There's one like that, - but I've not seen that one before.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12- Is there any indication - of where that came from?
0:13:12 > 0:13:13- No!
0:13:14 > 0:13:18- That's lovely. There's a very early - profile image of him like that...
0:13:18 > 0:13:21- ..by William Clements, - the Liverpool artist and engraver.
0:13:22 > 0:13:24- But it's not the same as that - - he's not wearing the hat.
0:13:25 > 0:13:26- It's a similar style.
0:13:26 > 0:13:29- Similar style - it could be - Clements again. It's a woodcut.
0:13:29 > 0:13:33- It's a woodcut, so it could be - Clements again. That's a new one!
0:13:45 > 0:13:48- Our journey to Liverpool - wasn't in vain.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51- Not at all! It was very - exciting to see a new image.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54- I didn't expect to see anything new.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57- I thought we'd only - find the same prints.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00- Seeing that new woodcut - was very exciting...
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- ..for two reasons.
0:14:03 > 0:14:07- We could compare it - to the profile we already have...
0:14:07 > 0:14:11- ..which looks rather - like a Greek bust.
0:14:12 > 0:14:16- The same artist painted both - - perhaps William Clements.
0:14:16 > 0:14:20- It was also exciting - to see Dic Aberdaron...
0:14:20 > 0:14:24- ..in the Liverpool context, - with other popular prints...
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- ..of the characters who trod - Liverpool's streets in those days.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- That throws new light on him.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35- We tend to see Dic - as a unique phenomenon.
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- We know a lot - about him as a Welshman.
0:14:39 > 0:14:43- But, in Liverpool, he was just one - of a crowd of familiar characters...
0:14:43 > 0:14:45- ..on the streets.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49- Despite being very famous...
0:14:49 > 0:14:53- ..and getting help - from very influential people...
0:14:53 > 0:14:55- ..Dic travelled incessantly...
0:14:55 > 0:14:59- ..in a futile effort - to realise his great ambition...
0:14:59 > 0:15:04- ..of finding a publisher for - his Welsh-Greek-Hebrew dictionary.
0:15:04 > 0:15:06- We too had more travelling to do.
0:15:07 > 0:15:11- We returned to Dic - Aberdaron's native village.
0:15:18 > 0:15:22- Peter found important works - in Staffordshire and Liverpool...
0:15:22 > 0:15:28- ..but he had been searching for - one lost work for fifteen years.
0:15:28 > 0:15:32- It was another bust of Dic, - sculpted in 1908 by a cobbler...
0:15:33 > 0:15:35- ..Robert Rhys Jones.
0:15:35 > 0:15:39- Mair Evans knows - a lot about local history...
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- ..and also knew the sculptor.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- This is a picture of - Robert Rhys Jones in Aberdaron...
0:15:46 > 0:15:51- ..with the sculpture. Can you - remember seeing it in Aberdaron?
0:15:51 > 0:15:52- No.
0:15:52 > 0:15:53- You can't?
0:15:53 > 0:15:56- You can't?- - I knew nothing about the sculpture.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58- You knew nothing about it?
0:15:59 > 0:15:59- No.
0:15:59 > 0:16:00- No.- - Nor anyone else?
0:16:01 > 0:16:02- I can't say.
0:16:02 > 0:16:04- It was in Carreg Plas.
0:16:04 > 0:16:05- It was in Carreg Plas.- - Where is that?
0:16:06 > 0:16:09- Carreg Plas is near Porthor.
0:16:09 > 0:16:10- Right.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13- There was an estate there long ago.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16- There was an auction there in 1950.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- Ellis Ship found it.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26- This was all new to Peter.
0:16:26 > 0:16:30- Mair also had more recent - photographs of the sculpture...
0:16:30 > 0:16:34- ..because she was friends - with the wife of the former owner.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37- I stayed with his wife.
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- I was friends with her - because she came from Aberdaron.
0:16:41 > 0:16:43- That's what these pictures are?
0:16:43 > 0:16:44- Yes, those pictures.
0:16:44 > 0:16:45- Yes, those pictures.- - I see.
0:16:45 > 0:16:47- The bust looks in good condition.
0:16:47 > 0:16:49- It does.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53- We know that the sculpture - was displayed...
0:16:53 > 0:16:57- ..at the Lloyd George Museum - in Llanystumdwy for a while.
0:16:57 > 0:16:58- Yes.
0:16:58 > 0:17:00- Yes.- - For a year, we think.
0:17:01 > 0:17:03- You don't know where it is now?
0:17:04 > 0:17:05- No.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07- No idea at all?
0:17:07 > 0:17:08- No.
0:17:12 > 0:17:16- Mair knew of another - portrait of Dic.
0:17:16 > 0:17:20- She described a picture - painted by her great uncle...
0:17:21 > 0:17:23- ..a ship's captain, Thomas Owen.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25- Mair thought the picture was lost.
0:17:25 > 0:17:29- But after making enquiries - at Gwynedd's Record Office...
0:17:29 > 0:17:33- ..we found another portrait - of Dic Aberdaron.
0:17:33 > 0:17:35- The artist's name was Thomas Owen.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- We couldn't bring - the original picture.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44- But we've made - a copy for you to see.
0:17:46 > 0:17:47- Here it is.
0:17:47 > 0:17:49- Here it is.- - Heavens, that's marvellous.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53- The original picture is this size.
0:17:53 > 0:17:54- Exactly.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56- It's exactly the same.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00- It's nice to see it.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02- It's nice to see it.- - Indeed it is.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- Our research into the fate - of the sculpture continued.
0:18:12 > 0:18:16- We followed another trail suggested - by Mair, searching for a portrait...
0:18:17 > 0:18:20- ..that had been seen for years at - the Ty Newydd pub in Sarn Mellteyrn.
0:18:21 > 0:18:24- The picture was moved - from the pub in the early 1980s.
0:18:24 > 0:18:28- After doing more research, - we were invited to a house...
0:18:28 > 0:18:30- ..in another part of the peninsula.
0:18:30 > 0:18:31- My goodness!
0:18:31 > 0:18:33- My goodness!- - Isn't it dramatic?
0:18:33 > 0:18:35- That's totally unexpected.
0:18:35 > 0:18:39- I haven't seen anything - like this before.
0:18:39 > 0:18:40- What's that technique, a drawing?
0:18:40 > 0:18:41- What's that technique, a drawing?- - I'd say charcoal.
0:18:42 > 0:18:46- Charcoal or pencil. - It's been smudged. It's very smooth.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- Yes, compared to the other drawings.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53- Yes. It's evidently - based on Clements's picture...
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- ..the print we've already seen.
0:18:56 > 0:19:00- We see once again that - the artist, whoever he or she was...
0:19:00 > 0:19:04- ..had elaborated - on the original print.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09- This time, we see Dic - in a real location.
0:19:09 > 0:19:13- There are railings behind him, - he's on a street corner...
0:19:14 > 0:19:18- ..like an old balladeer, - reading something.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23- What strikes one first - is this remarkable frame.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26- Well, well.
0:19:26 > 0:19:28- Despite the successes...
0:19:28 > 0:19:32- ..not finding Robert Rhys Jones's - sculpture was a big disappointment.
0:19:32 > 0:19:36- The enquiries had followed several - false trails in Wales and England.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39- Filming was about to finish.
0:19:39 > 0:19:43- After months of correspondence - and phone calls to people...
0:19:43 > 0:19:45- ..with links to Aberdaron...
0:19:45 > 0:19:49- ..we heard that the sculpture had - survived, and was privately owned...
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- ..somewhere in north Wales.
0:19:52 > 0:19:53- Here we are!
0:19:53 > 0:19:54- Here we are!- - Well.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57- After seeing it in photographs...
0:19:57 > 0:19:59- How does it compare?
0:19:59 > 0:20:03- It's bigger than I thought. - It's more substantial, in a way.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04- Wow.
0:20:04 > 0:20:06- Wow.- - It's quite primitive, isn't it?
0:20:06 > 0:20:09- It is primitive - - I know what you mean.
0:20:10 > 0:20:12- It's quite hefty!
0:20:26 > 0:20:30- Compared to the one in Aberystwyth, - what do you think of it?
0:20:31 > 0:20:33- It's very different, in one sense.
0:20:33 > 0:20:38- They're both works - by untrained sculptors.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42- They're folk art, in a way.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47- But the presence of the Aberystwyth - bust is different from this one.
0:20:47 > 0:20:51- This one's more naturalistic. - I hadn't expected that, frankly.
0:20:52 > 0:20:55- Now we can see it, - it's more naturalistic.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58- The one in Aberystwyth was - very squareish, a solid block.
0:20:59 > 0:21:01- More mediaeval in a way.
0:21:01 > 0:21:02- Yes.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06- This is interesting - it looks - as if it's been on a pillar.
0:21:06 > 0:21:09- You see? It's been cut around here.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18- It reminds me - of a very famous sculpture.
0:21:18 > 0:21:22- You know the sculpture of Llywelyn - the Great, that came from Deganwy?
0:21:23 > 0:21:27- This conveys the same - kind of feeling.
0:21:28 > 0:21:33- In a mediaeval context, - that bust was very sophisticated.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37- It's very striking.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- The process of collecting - works wasn't over yet.
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- To see how much awareness - there still was of Dic...
0:22:01 > 0:22:03- ..and whether he still - appealed as a subject...
0:22:03 > 0:22:06- ..we asked pupils at - Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron...
0:22:06 > 0:22:10- ..to create new portraits, without - looking at any other images...
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- ..of Dic Aberdaron beforehand.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15- The results were striking.
0:22:24 > 0:22:28- Tesni, how did you convey - Dic Aberdaron's character?
0:22:28 > 0:22:32- I knew his father - was quite cross with him...
0:22:33 > 0:22:35- ..because he didn't work.
0:22:35 > 0:22:38- So I wanted to make him - look a bit sad.
0:22:41 > 0:22:45- Ianto, your Dic is quite - a character. Explain the picture.
0:22:45 > 0:22:48- I put a horn around his neck...
0:22:49 > 0:22:53- ..because people said he had a horn.
0:22:54 > 0:22:59- When he walked to a small - village, he blew his horn...
0:23:00 > 0:23:02- ..to get attention.
0:23:05 > 0:23:09- Elgan, what elements have you used - to convey Dic's character?
0:23:09 > 0:23:11- I tried to make him young.
0:23:12 > 0:23:16- I used a mixture - of charcoal and pastels.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- I smudged some black on his face...
0:23:20 > 0:23:23- ..to make him a bit more realistic.
0:23:27 > 0:23:31- How did you want to convey - Dic Aberdaron's character, Morgan?
0:23:31 > 0:23:33- Hairy and untidy.
0:23:34 > 0:23:35- Scruffy!
0:23:44 > 0:23:48- Peter, I feel that you were pleased - to find these works, obviously...
0:23:49 > 0:23:52- ..but that you also found it - a moving experience. Am I right?
0:23:53 > 0:23:57- Yes, especially seeing - the children and their pictures.
0:23:57 > 0:24:01- The tradition and myths continue, - and are developed in their work.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04- You remember, - in the library in Liverpool...
0:24:05 > 0:24:09- ..finding that new - picture of Dic Aberdaron?
0:24:09 > 0:24:13- That was a very exciting experience - for me - it was a special thrill.
0:24:13 > 0:24:15- I tried to work out why.
0:24:16 > 0:24:20- What we saw was unremarkable - - it was a piece of street art.
0:24:20 > 0:24:25- Why was it so exciting - to find something like that?
0:24:25 > 0:24:29- Then, I thought, finding it - was important, naturally.
0:24:29 > 0:24:31- That was exciting, obviously.
0:24:31 > 0:24:35- But the nature of the image - touches you very directly.
0:24:35 > 0:24:40- It's simple and unpretentious, like - all the images of Dic Aberdaron.
0:24:40 > 0:24:42- And we have so many works.
0:24:42 > 0:24:46- I don't know how many art works - we found on our journey.
0:24:47 > 0:24:51- We have enough for an exhibition, - we found so many new things.
0:24:51 > 0:24:55- Wouldn't that be fantastic, to bring - all the art works together...
0:24:55 > 0:24:57- ..to a gallery here!
0:24:58 > 0:25:03- To see these visual images - interweaving with the oral myths...
0:25:03 > 0:25:08- ..that are still remembered - vividly here. That would be great.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11- # Richard Robert Jones.
0:25:11 > 0:25:13- # Who knows?
0:25:14 > 0:25:17- # Richard Robert Jones.
0:25:18 > 0:25:21- # Who knows?
0:25:22 > 0:25:23- # Richard,
0:25:24 > 0:25:25- # Robert,
0:25:26 > 0:25:30- # Jones. #
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