Llwyd Owen

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0:00:22 > 0:00:25- I'm spending the day - with a novelist.

0:00:25 > 0:00:28- Come with me - to find out his identity.

0:00:28 > 0:00:33- There are lots of books here about - Cardiff or by writers from Cardiff.

0:00:33 > 0:00:39- This person grew up in Cardiff, and - it's a big influence on his work.

0:00:41 > 0:00:45- He's obviously - a successful and popular author...

0:00:45 > 0:00:49- ..because he's won this, - the Book of the Year award.

0:00:50 > 0:00:53- Yee-hah! - Do you know this cute cowboy?

0:00:54 > 0:00:58- He obviously had a vivid imagination - when was a child.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01- Author Llwyd Owen - lives in this house.

0:01:01 > 0:01:04- He has published ten novels...

0:01:04 > 0:01:08- ..including Ffydd Gobaith Cariad, - which won Book of the Year.

0:01:08 > 0:01:13- He lives here with his wife Lisa - and their children Elian and Syfi.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20- Thanks for the welcome - and the strong coffee to wake me up.

0:01:21 > 0:01:22- Are you OK?

0:01:22 > 0:01:23- Are you OK?- - Great, thanks.

0:01:23 > 0:01:25- Let's talk about your work - as an author.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28- Tell us about the themes - in your work.

0:01:28 > 0:01:32- The main theme - which runs through my work...

0:01:32 > 0:01:35- ..is family - and the importance of family.

0:01:35 > 0:01:39- However, the families in my books - are usually broken.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43- I think it stems from the fact...

0:01:43 > 0:01:49- ..I've been lucky to have a stable - and very happy upbringing...

0:01:49 > 0:01:51- ..without much drama.

0:01:53 > 0:01:57- I think in novels, films - and television series...

0:01:57 > 0:02:00- ..you have to create - the tension and the drama.

0:02:00 > 0:02:05- I've done that - through twisting my own experiences.

0:02:05 > 0:02:09- There's usually a lot of falling out - among the families in my books.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14- Cardiff is important - in your stories too.

0:02:14 > 0:02:19- Yes, it's very important, - in my early novels especially.

0:02:19 > 0:02:23- In those, it was as if Cardiff - was itself a character.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- I wanted to introduce the city...

0:02:28 > 0:02:32- ..not only to readers - who were familiar with it...

0:02:33 > 0:02:34- ..but to those who weren't.

0:02:35 > 0:02:36- So I use real locations.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41- I look at the city's history - and legends...

0:02:41 > 0:02:45- ..and feed that into the narrative.

0:02:45 > 0:02:50- When you published your first novel, - I was on holiday.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54- You'd published it and I said - to myself I was going to read it.

0:02:54 > 0:02:58- It was a wow moment for me. - A breath of fresh air.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01- You opened the door...

0:03:01 > 0:03:05- ..to a new way of telling a story.

0:03:05 > 0:03:08- It was quite, um, real.

0:03:09 > 0:03:10- You changed gear.

0:03:11 > 0:03:12- Maybe!

0:03:12 > 0:03:17- I wanted to surprise people - at the start of my career.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20- I wanted to grab people's attention.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23- I wanted to attract young readers.

0:03:24 > 0:03:30- I thought that the way to do that - was to shock...

0:03:30 > 0:03:33- ..and to speak their language.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36- I think...

0:03:36 > 0:03:41- ..that the Welsh language - in its formal form...

0:03:42 > 0:03:45- ..can isolate people...

0:03:45 > 0:03:48- ..and stop people from reading.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52- I tried to remove that obstacle.

0:03:54 > 0:03:57- I'm not sure - whether or not it worked!

0:03:57 > 0:03:59- It worked.

0:03:59 > 0:04:03- I was young at the time - so it appealed to the right people.

0:04:03 > 0:04:04- That's great to hear.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08- What's life like as an author? - Is it difficult?

0:04:08 > 0:04:12- What is your pattern of work? - How do you go about writing?

0:04:13 > 0:04:14- Um...

0:04:14 > 0:04:18- There's a line I like to quote.

0:04:18 > 0:04:23- "Creativity starts a novel - but hard work finishes it."

0:04:25 > 0:04:26- It's easy...

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- Everyone has ideas.

0:04:29 > 0:04:33- But reaching the finish line - can be a slog.

0:04:33 > 0:04:38- Say that a novel is 60,000 words.

0:04:38 > 0:04:43- When you're 40,000 in, - it can feel very laborious.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46- I have a pattern.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50- I have to be self-disciplined.

0:04:50 > 0:04:54- I write one day a week.

0:04:54 > 0:04:56- I work as a translator - four days a week.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59- So I'm free every Friday.

0:05:00 > 0:05:05- I make sure, well, - I aim to write a chapter a week...

0:05:05 > 0:05:07- ..when I'm writing a book.

0:05:07 > 0:05:13- You came very close to winning the - Daniel Owen Prize at the Eisteddfod.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15- But what happened?

0:05:15 > 0:05:19- Well, I think...

0:05:19 > 0:05:21- ..the content of the book...

0:05:21 > 0:05:26- ..and my prose at the time...

0:05:27 > 0:05:29- ..were so raw...

0:05:29 > 0:05:31- ..you know?!

0:05:31 > 0:05:36- I think the judges decided it wasn't - a good idea to give me the prize.

0:05:36 > 0:05:42- It wasn't quite deserving of the - main prize for a couple of reasons.

0:05:43 > 0:05:48- That worked to my benefit.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- There was swearing...

0:05:51 > 0:05:55- ..and some serious things - going on in the novel.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57- Wales wasn't ready.

0:05:57 > 0:05:58- It was a bit of a shock.

0:05:58 > 0:05:59- It was a bit of a shock.- - Maybe.

0:05:59 > 0:06:02- It was great for you - - it made a bit of a stir.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04- People wanted to know more.

0:06:04 > 0:06:09- It received a lot of attention - before it existed.

0:06:10 > 0:06:15- I got to choose which publisher - I wanted to publish it.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17- I then worked with an editor...

0:06:17 > 0:06:21- ..to refine - and improve the original novel.

0:06:21 > 0:06:27- So what was published six or seven - months later was a much better book.

0:06:28 > 0:06:32- Can we have a look around - this very stylish house?

0:06:32 > 0:06:34- I have been busy tidying up!

0:06:35 > 0:06:36- You or Lisa?

0:06:36 > 0:06:38- You or Lisa?- - Me. Modern man!

0:06:38 > 0:06:39- Well done!

0:06:46 > 0:06:50- There's style here - the moment you walk in.

0:06:50 > 0:06:51- Thank you!

0:06:52 > 0:06:56- The walls are painted white - in my house but I like the grey.

0:06:56 > 0:06:58- Is it that colour throughout?

0:06:58 > 0:07:00- I think so!

0:07:00 > 0:07:03- I haven't thought about it - for a while!

0:07:03 > 0:07:05- So you didn't paint it?

0:07:05 > 0:07:10- The style of the house - isn't down to me!

0:07:10 > 0:07:15- I have to give the credit - to my wife Lisa.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19- You've only just realized - what colour the walls are!

0:07:21 > 0:07:23- I like that. - Is there a story behind it?

0:07:24 > 0:07:26- Has it come from your home?

0:07:26 > 0:07:31- It's hard to tell because Lisa - likes painting everything.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- As we go around the house, - you'll see more of that.

0:07:34 > 0:07:38- I'm sure it's an antique - that's been painted.

0:07:38 > 0:07:42- Using chalk paint on furniture - is fashionable nowadays.

0:07:42 > 0:07:43- It's fashionable in this house.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45- It's fashionable in this house.- - Breathing new life into it.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47- OK, where next?

0:07:47 > 0:07:48- The lounge?

0:07:48 > 0:07:49- The lounge?- - Why not?

0:07:55 > 0:07:59- This is a nice room. - I like that shade of blue.

0:07:59 > 0:08:03- You have to be quite brave - to do that. It's lovely.

0:08:05 > 0:08:07- Again, it wasn't you that chose it!

0:08:07 > 0:08:08- Again, it wasn't you that chose it!- - No, I can't claim that!

0:08:09 > 0:08:12- So did you match the colour - of the wall to the picture...

0:08:12 > 0:08:14- ..or the picture - to match the wall?

0:08:15 > 0:08:17- The colour of the wall - to match the picture.

0:08:18 > 0:08:22- We got the picture first. - It's by Jamie Hamley.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27- He's also designed - a number of my book covers.

0:08:31 > 0:08:33- Are these your favourites?

0:08:33 > 0:08:37- No, the library's - constantly changing.

0:08:39 > 0:08:44- I tend to buy a lot of books - from charity shops.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48- I then share them - after finishing with them.

0:08:48 > 0:08:49- I pass them on.

0:08:49 > 0:08:53- So the library's an ever-changing - beast in this house.

0:08:54 > 0:08:58- That's great, because if you buy - a book, you usually want to keep it.

0:08:59 > 0:09:00- I like to share.

0:09:00 > 0:09:01- I enjoy reading.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06- I think who would enjoy a - particular book and then pass it on.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08- It's a nice present.

0:09:08 > 0:09:10- You're quite tidy.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12- They're in order of size!

0:09:12 > 0:09:13- What does that say about you?

0:09:13 > 0:09:16- What does that say about you?- - That I have a bit of OCD!

0:09:17 > 0:09:19- I didn't say that, you did!

0:09:20 > 0:09:21- Great.

0:09:21 > 0:09:22- On to the kitchen.

0:09:22 > 0:09:23- On to the kitchen.- - OK.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32- This is a nice room.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- Two nice, open rooms.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37- So, do you cook?

0:09:37 > 0:09:39- Yes. I enjoy cooking.

0:09:39 > 0:09:42- This is a social room - so it's a nice place to be.

0:09:42 > 0:09:47- People can sit here - and watch you cook supper.

0:09:48 > 0:09:52- Usually, it's the kids demanding - I feed them every ten minutes.

0:09:52 > 0:09:54- "I'm hungry!"

0:09:54 > 0:09:57- How did you go about it?

0:09:57 > 0:09:59- Is this a new room? - Is it an extension?

0:10:00 > 0:10:01- How did you plan it?

0:10:02 > 0:10:07- Well, I can't claim - I had much to do with the plans!

0:10:07 > 0:10:11- My wife Lisa took the leading role.

0:10:11 > 0:10:17- The furniture's a combination - of very modern and traditional.

0:10:17 > 0:10:20- Well, it's important.

0:10:23 > 0:10:24- The Welsh dresser...

0:10:25 > 0:10:30- ..belonged to - the grandmother of my sister-in-law.

0:10:30 > 0:10:35- We wanted a Welsh element, - a Welsh dresser.

0:10:35 > 0:10:39- We've inherited pieces - like the chest and bureau.

0:10:40 > 0:10:44- Nothing stops you from mixing.

0:10:44 > 0:10:46- We have modern elements.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49- The designers who did the work...

0:10:49 > 0:10:53- ..were reluctant - to include those elements.

0:10:54 > 0:10:58- They wanted new things. - They liked the angles.

0:10:58 > 0:11:00- It's lovely here. I love it.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04- I'm looking forward to see - the rest of the house. After you.

0:11:18 > 0:11:19- Lovely.

0:11:19 > 0:11:22- What rooms do we have here?

0:11:22 > 0:11:27- Well, we have Lisa's dressing room, - a spare room...

0:11:27 > 0:11:30- ..Syfi's room...

0:11:30 > 0:11:35- ..Elian's room is down there, - the bathroom...

0:11:35 > 0:11:38- ..and our bedroom is in the attic.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40- So you're up there? Nice.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42- So you're up there? Nice.- - It's nice and quiet.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45- Can we see the bathroom, please?

0:11:48 > 0:11:49- Ooh, lovely!

0:11:50 > 0:11:52- I love the flooring.

0:11:52 > 0:11:54- It's beautiful.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57- It looks like wood - but it isn't wood.

0:11:57 > 0:11:59- No, they're ceramic tiles.

0:11:59 > 0:12:02- You're right, - they do look like wood.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06- This is like a room - in a five-star hotel!

0:12:06 > 0:12:07- Thank you.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11- Do you use the bath and shower? - They're very clean.

0:12:12 > 0:12:17- You have to do some cleaning before - the cameras come to the house.

0:12:18 > 0:12:22- It's interesting that it's white - with no pictures on the wall.

0:12:22 > 0:12:26- There are pictures everywhere - in the rest of the house.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- There's no reason.

0:12:28 > 0:12:31- I'd like to stay here - all afternoon.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33- We'll fill the bath for you!

0:12:33 > 0:12:34- We'll fill the bath for you!- - Perfect. Lovely.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43- This is nice. A recess in the attic.

0:12:44 > 0:12:45- It is quite cosy up here.

0:12:45 > 0:12:51- Why did you decide to go up to the - top and let the girls be downstairs?

0:12:51 > 0:12:57- Mostly because we have an en suite - up here, which is quite handy...

0:12:57 > 0:13:01- ..as I get older - and my prostate isn't what it was!

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- It's really quiet up here.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07- You can't hear the street - in the front.

0:13:08 > 0:13:10- It's quite peaceful.

0:13:10 > 0:13:15- Who sleeps on this side? - Let's take a look at the books.

0:13:15 > 0:13:16- Are these yours?

0:13:16 > 0:13:19- Yes. I sleep on this side.

0:13:19 > 0:13:23- I'm working my way through the pile, - an ever-growing pile.

0:13:23 > 0:13:27- Do you read more than one book - at a time?

0:13:27 > 0:13:29- Or do you finish one - and start another?

0:13:30 > 0:13:33- I sometimes have a novel - and a factual book...

0:13:33 > 0:13:35- ..on the go at the same time.

0:13:35 > 0:13:39- I couldn't read two novels - at a time.

0:13:40 > 0:13:44- The house is fantastic. - I'd like to come and live here.

0:13:45 > 0:13:46- I won't, don't worry.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48- I won't, don't worry.- - There's no room for you in the bed!

0:13:54 > 0:13:57- After the break, - we'll go outside for a wander...

0:13:57 > 0:14:02- ..and we'll look around the room - in which Llwyd does his writing.

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0:14:09 > 0:14:10- Welcome back.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14- I'm spending the morning - with author Llwyd Owen.

0:14:14 > 0:14:18- After looking around the house, - he takes me to see a special room.

0:14:18 > 0:14:21- Wow! Man cave!

0:14:21 > 0:14:23- This is a proper cave.

0:14:24 > 0:14:25- Great!

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- I'd say your stamp is on this room.

0:14:28 > 0:14:31- It's the only room in the house - with my stamp on it!

0:14:31 > 0:14:35- In the rest of the house, I've asked - why you've chosen something.

0:14:35 > 0:14:38- "It wasn't me. Lisa." - But this is your space.

0:14:38 > 0:14:41- Is this where you do your writing?

0:14:41 > 0:14:42- Is this where you do your writing?- - Yes. This is my office.

0:14:42 > 0:14:46- It's my refuge - from the madness in the house!

0:14:46 > 0:14:51- No, it's nice being able - to step out of the house...

0:14:51 > 0:14:53- ..and come here to work.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55- It's so close.

0:14:55 > 0:14:57- It's so close.- - Psychologically, it's separate.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59- It feels like 100 miles away.

0:14:59 > 0:15:03- Do you just come here to write - or do you listen to music too?

0:15:03 > 0:15:07- I've never seen - such a collection of records!

0:15:07 > 0:15:11- I'm a little obsessive - with my records.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13- Are they in alphabetical order?

0:15:13 > 0:15:15- Are they in alphabetical order?- - Not quite. In order of genre.

0:15:17 > 0:15:21- One day, - they'll be in alphabetical order.

0:15:21 > 0:15:26- I work here, I relax here, - listen to music and read.

0:15:28 > 0:15:31- Do you listen to music - while writing?

0:15:32 > 0:15:33- I do...

0:15:33 > 0:15:35- Sorry, not while writing.

0:15:36 > 0:15:39- I need silence to write.

0:15:39 > 0:15:43- When editing, I often - have music on in the background.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46- Usually, it's instrumental music.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48- It's difficult if there are lyrics.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50- It's difficult if there are lyrics.- - Two sets of words.

0:15:50 > 0:15:55- I like reading - while listening to music.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58- I recreate that when editing.

0:15:58 > 0:16:01- What I'm trying to do...

0:16:01 > 0:16:07- ..is to recreate - that reading environment.

0:16:07 > 0:16:10- Sheds are part - of some of your books...

0:16:10 > 0:16:14- ..but the wider area does too, - for example Roath Park.

0:16:14 > 0:16:15- Shall we go for a walk there?

0:16:15 > 0:16:16- Shall we go for a walk there?- - Why not?

0:16:16 > 0:16:18- Out of the cave.

0:16:26 > 0:16:30- It's a nice morning to be - in Roath Park. It's lovely here.

0:16:30 > 0:16:35- This place has influenced you - and your work.

0:16:36 > 0:16:41- Yes, it's played a prominent role - in my life and my upbringing.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46- I grew up - about half a mile that way.

0:16:46 > 0:16:52- I spent a lot of time here - during my childhood.

0:16:53 > 0:16:57- As a parent, - I also spend a lot of time here.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01- I bring the kids here. - It's such a nice place.

0:17:02 > 0:17:03- In the early '80s...

0:17:03 > 0:17:08- ..I remember during - a very cold spell in winter...

0:17:08 > 0:17:11- ..the entire lake was frozen over.

0:17:12 > 0:17:14- I don't remember that happening.

0:17:14 > 0:17:16- I don't remember that happening.- - It hasn't happened since.

0:17:17 > 0:17:20- I remember people - were skating on it.

0:17:20 > 0:17:25- Me, my father and my brother Rhys - walked across the lake.

0:17:25 > 0:17:28- My brother fell - and cracked his head.

0:17:29 > 0:17:30- Happy memories!

0:17:30 > 0:17:31- Happy memories!- - Drama!

0:17:32 > 0:17:35- It was - I like to see - my brother suffering!

0:17:37 > 0:17:40- Because of the area's - significance...

0:17:41 > 0:17:45- ..it's played a prominent part.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47- That lighthouse too.

0:17:48 > 0:17:51- It's had a couple of mentions - in my books!

0:17:52 > 0:17:57- It's an iconic spot in Cardiff - and is iconic in my life.

0:18:05 > 0:18:09- After a nice walk to Roath Park, - we're back in the house.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12- I take it these are the three things - you'd save...

0:18:12 > 0:18:15- ..if you had to run out - in an emergency.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17- Yes.

0:18:18 > 0:18:22- I have a large collection - of records.

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- I have a handful here.

0:18:26 > 0:18:31- I'd need a lorry to take the rest, - but the shelves have wheels.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- I could take them out quickly - if there was a fire.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38- Why records? - Why are they so important?

0:18:38 > 0:18:43- I've always been quite obsessed - about music...

0:18:43 > 0:18:46- ..since my teenage years anyway.

0:18:46 > 0:18:50- I used to play in bands - and I was a DJ...

0:18:50 > 0:18:53- ..before the kids arrived.

0:18:53 > 0:18:55- When I could go out in the evening.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59- Now, they give me endless pleasure.

0:18:59 > 0:19:04- Is there something about a record - that's different to a computer file?

0:19:05 > 0:19:06- Definitely.

0:19:06 > 0:19:10- Let's look at this.

0:19:10 > 0:19:13- It's a recent example.

0:19:14 > 0:19:17- It's a compilation - by I Ka Ching Records.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20- You just have to look at it.

0:19:21 > 0:19:25- It's a lot more than a CD - or a download. It looks incredible.

0:19:25 > 0:19:27- I can see the love in your eyes!

0:19:28 > 0:19:29- It's something...

0:19:29 > 0:19:30- It's like a piece of art.

0:19:30 > 0:19:32- It's like a piece of art.- - It is a piece of art.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35- It's something to treasure too.

0:19:36 > 0:19:38- It's more than music.

0:19:38 > 0:19:43- Because you're you, you can choose - all of them as one of your three.

0:19:43 > 0:19:46- I'd take them all, - including my Tony ac Aloma ones.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49- You can't beat Tony ac Aloma!

0:19:50 > 0:19:52- It sounds like a joke - but I'm serious!

0:19:53 > 0:19:56- Your second thing?

0:19:56 > 0:19:58- This is quite big.

0:20:00 > 0:20:02- We'll put it there.

0:20:03 > 0:20:04- Wow. That is nice.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07- It's a painting - by an old friend of mine.

0:20:07 > 0:20:10- It says 'Clint' here. - That's his nickname.

0:20:11 > 0:20:13- Iwan ap Huw Morgan - is his real name.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17- I went to school with him.

0:20:18 > 0:20:23- I lost touch with him - for about 15 years...

0:20:23 > 0:20:25- ..as Iwan battled...

0:20:27 > 0:20:29- He was a heroin addict for years.

0:20:30 > 0:20:32- Fortunately, - he's come out the other side.

0:20:33 > 0:20:34- He now lives in Mexico...

0:20:35 > 0:20:38- ..helping other heroin addicts - to come off heroin.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42- He's one of the most talented people - I've ever met.

0:20:43 > 0:20:48- He's a musician, sculptor, - performer and an artist.

0:20:49 > 0:20:50- He painted this.

0:20:50 > 0:20:54- It's entitled - Snowstorm In The Himalayas.

0:20:55 > 0:20:57- You can see the mountains - and the storm.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- He painted this when he was 18.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04- It's been on my wall - for over 20 years.

0:21:04 > 0:21:06- I love this painting.

0:21:07 > 0:21:10- And the final thing, - or the final two or three things!

0:21:11 > 0:21:13- These are very personal things.

0:21:13 > 0:21:18- I lost my mother - around seven years ago.

0:21:18 > 0:21:21- Mam was a very creative person.

0:21:22 > 0:21:27- Here are three things - she herself made.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34- It's a memento.

0:21:35 > 0:21:39- It has the date of birth of - Elian Sgarlad, my eldest daughter.

0:21:41 > 0:21:43- You can take that.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46- She made something similar for Syfi.

0:21:46 > 0:21:51- She finished it - about two months before she died.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- The detail in Elian's...

0:21:54 > 0:21:57- It's a lot more detailed.

0:21:58 > 0:22:00- There's a mistake here.

0:22:00 > 0:22:05- It reflects the physical state - she was in at the time.

0:22:05 > 0:22:06- If anything...

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- ..it makes it more special - that she made such an effort.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- It was so important to Mam - to finish this.

0:22:14 > 0:22:16- She knew what was coming.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20- She had cancer. - She knew she was going to die.

0:22:21 > 0:22:23- She was determined to finish this.

0:22:23 > 0:22:27- She did this - two months before she passed away.

0:22:28 > 0:22:30- On top of that, - she also managed to do this.

0:22:31 > 0:22:32- Aw.

0:22:33 > 0:22:34- She knitted it.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36- Yes, she made this.

0:22:36 > 0:22:41- Elian still sleeps - with this teddy bear.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- Elian calls this teddy - 'Mam-gu bach' - little Mam-gu.

0:22:46 > 0:22:48- Oh, that's so lovely.

0:22:48 > 0:22:51- It brings a tear to my eye - every time.

0:22:51 > 0:22:52- That's so nice.

0:22:53 > 0:22:59- It's a kind of physical connection - I have with Mam.

0:22:59 > 0:23:03- They'll be something - that the girls will have forever.

0:23:03 > 0:23:08- Though they don't remember her, - they'll never forget her either.

0:23:09 > 0:23:10- They'll be saved before the records.

0:23:10 > 0:23:13- They'll be saved before the records.- - Well, I'm not sure about that!

0:23:16 > 0:23:18- Before we get too sentimental!

0:23:20 > 0:23:24- I've laughed a lot today - and had a lot of fun.

0:23:24 > 0:23:25- Thank you for the welcome.

0:23:25 > 0:23:27- Thank you for the welcome.- - Pleasure. Thank you.

0:23:34 > 0:23:38- Whose house will I visit next week? - Join me to find out.

0:23:38 > 0:23:39- Goodbye.

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