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0:00:38 > 0:00:40- I'm Leanne. Stephen is my partner.
0:00:41 > 0:00:42- We live in Garn.
0:00:42 > 0:00:44- We have five children.
0:00:44 > 0:00:46- We're expecting our sixth.
0:00:50 > 0:00:55- The eldest, Erin Mai, is eight. - She's nine in October.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59- Cian is seven.
0:01:01 > 0:01:03- Rhys is six.
0:01:06 > 0:01:08- The twins are two and a bit.
0:01:09 > 0:01:13- The baby will arrive - early in October.
0:01:15 > 0:01:18- I grew up as an only child.
0:01:18 > 0:01:22- I've always known - I wanted a big family.
0:01:23 > 0:01:26- I have two sisters now, - but they're young.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31- I've always wanted a big family.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33- But this is the last one.
0:01:35 > 0:01:37- Erin was nine pounds, nine.
0:01:37 > 0:01:41- Cian was nine pounds. - Rhys was eight pounds, four.
0:01:42 > 0:01:47- The twins were six pounds, two, - and six pounds, six, at 35 weeks.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52- So I'm not expecting a small baby.
0:01:56 > 0:01:59- The oldest three are my stepkids.
0:01:59 > 0:02:00- I'm one of four.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03- I've never thought about it.
0:02:03 > 0:02:07- All I knew was if I met - someone who had children...
0:02:08 > 0:02:09- ..I wouldn't mind.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12- Mam and Dad have done it too.
0:02:13 > 0:02:17- Often now, people have children, - and it doesn't work out.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- Someone else comes into the family.
0:02:20 > 0:02:21- It can be hard.
0:02:22 > 0:02:26- But if you go with it - and learn, it'll be fine.
0:02:27 > 0:02:32- Not many men would do that, - bringing up children as their own...
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- ..especially three.
0:02:36 > 0:02:38- It takes a lot.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41- In a way, I am lucky.
0:02:42 > 0:02:46- Coming into a family - with children was hard.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49- Mam brought them up on her own.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52- She had her own way of doing things.
0:02:52 > 0:02:57- Then I came in and wanted to do - things the way I was brought up.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00- We fought.
0:03:00 > 0:03:05- But now, we come together and - decide what we do. It's much better.
0:03:07 > 0:03:09- We quarrel, but we're happy.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12- Sit down there.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20- In you go. Well done.
0:03:21 > 0:03:22- Big boy.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25- I've known Leanne - since I was 15 or 16...
0:03:25 > 0:03:28- ..through Facebook - and a mutual friend.
0:03:29 > 0:03:31- We talked a lot.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34- I moved to live. I had a girlfriend.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37- One day, she said, "I've just moved.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40- "I'm on my own. - Can you come for a chat?"
0:03:40 > 0:03:43- It went from strength to strength.
0:03:43 > 0:03:44- Ta-ta, Mam!
0:03:48 > 0:03:53- I've come to Wales on holiday - since I was a baby. Dad is Welsh.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55- In 1999...
0:03:56 > 0:03:58- ..we decided to move here.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01- We moved to a house in Pwllheli.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- It was rented - in the summer holidays.
0:04:04 > 0:04:08- I didn't go back to school - in Birkenhead. We moved here.
0:04:11 > 0:04:14- I went to the language centre - in Ysgol Llangybi.
0:04:15 > 0:04:18- After that, - I went through secondary school.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21- I felt I didn't know enough Welsh.
0:04:21 > 0:04:25- So I went to Nant Gwrtheyrn - to learn Welsh on a course.
0:04:25 > 0:04:29- I paid to do the course, - to learn Welsh.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32- I said, "I'm going to stay here.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35- "I should learn Welsh - well enough to work here."
0:04:37 > 0:04:39- Aren't you a big boy?
0:04:39 > 0:04:41- A job, a bigger house...
0:04:41 > 0:04:46- ..and a permanent job for me, - not seasonal bar work.
0:04:46 > 0:04:48- Those are my final steps.
0:04:49 > 0:04:50- Then we'll be happy.
0:04:51 > 0:04:53- One, two, three, go!
0:04:56 > 0:04:57- You now!
0:04:57 > 0:05:01- I speak Welsh with the children. - I try with Leanne.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04- Sometimes, she answers in English.
0:05:04 > 0:05:05- Always!
0:05:05 > 0:05:09- We got to know - each other speaking English.
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- I'm going to try to get her - to speak Welsh to me.
0:05:17 > 0:05:21- I was 23 when Leanne found out - she was expecting twins.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- I'm 25 now.
0:05:23 > 0:05:27- I think it's the right age. - I'll see the children grow up.
0:05:28 > 0:05:32- I won't worry about not being - with them when I'm older.
0:05:32 > 0:05:34- Dad was older when he had me.
0:05:35 > 0:05:36- He's 63.
0:05:37 > 0:05:39- He's having grandkids now.
0:05:40 > 0:05:44- I think you want to start having - grandkids between 40 and 50...
0:05:45 > 0:05:48- ..when you can still play - with them and see them grow up.
0:05:50 > 0:05:51- The other way?
0:05:52 > 0:05:53- Whee!
0:05:53 > 0:05:58- Three is definitely enough for me. - I'll have twins and the baby.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00- I'm happy with that.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03- I'm happy bringing up - the other three as my own.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06- I show them respect - and they respect me.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09- I'm happy with things as they are.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18- I've never had a little sister.
0:06:19 > 0:06:23- I have to play boys' games - with Cian and Rhys.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27- I can play girls' games with girls.
0:06:31 > 0:06:33- How are you going to help?
0:06:33 > 0:06:35- What will you help Mam do?
0:06:36 > 0:06:38- I'll pass things to you.
0:06:38 > 0:06:40- And fetch clothes?
0:06:43 > 0:06:45- What about changing nappies?
0:06:45 > 0:06:46- What about changing nappies?- - No!
0:06:46 > 0:06:47- Don't you want to change nappies?
0:06:47 > 0:06:49- Don't you want to change nappies?- - No.
0:06:49 > 0:06:50- Why?
0:06:50 > 0:06:51- Why?- - Ugh!
0:06:51 > 0:06:54- Mam knows a lot; - but Nain knows everything!
0:06:55 > 0:06:58- I have a good family, - especially Nain and my aunt.
0:06:58 > 0:07:02- They help a lot - with the older children.
0:07:02 > 0:07:03- I have Mam.
0:07:04 > 0:07:06- She's here...
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- ..if I really need help.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12- I think I'm lucky...
0:07:14 > 0:07:17- ..and Stephen too, - with our families.
0:07:17 > 0:07:18- We have help.
0:07:19 > 0:07:21- We're luck to have help.
0:07:21 > 0:07:23- A lot of people don't get help.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26- Especially now, with the sixth.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32- I haven't kept anything.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34- I got rid of everything.
0:07:35 > 0:07:37- But I had to buy pink things.
0:07:40 > 0:07:42- After having four boys...
0:07:42 > 0:07:44- ..I just want pink things...
0:07:44 > 0:07:46- ..more girly things.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52- Nain has been knitting. - I like small things.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54- She knitted a bonnet...
0:07:55 > 0:07:59- ..ready for when - we come home from hospital.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- And small cardigans.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05- They're homemade.
0:08:06 > 0:08:08- Nain likes to knit.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10- I'm lucky.
0:08:10 > 0:08:12- She knits a lot for me.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16- She has knitted small bootees.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37- This is the first time - I'll be there for the birth.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40- The twins were - an emergency c-section.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43- There was no-one with Leanne.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47- I saw nothing until they were - in special care or in the ward.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- We're having our pre-op today...
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- ..ready for Monday, - when we're having the baby.
0:08:55 > 0:08:57- I'll be going to theatre.
0:08:57 > 0:09:00- I'm nervous. - I don't know about Stephen.
0:09:00 > 0:09:01- I'm very nervous.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05- I've never seen it before, - so it's my first time.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10- I'm excited to see what happens.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15- We'll know the time Leanne - will have the c-section on Monday.
0:09:17 > 0:09:20- It's good thing for Dad to see it.
0:09:22 > 0:09:26- I'm excited, but worried too - about what's going on.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28- I'll learn something new.
0:09:30 > 0:09:34- They've measured her legs - for stockings, to stop DVT.
0:09:34 > 0:09:39- They've taken a blood sample, - measured and weighed her...
0:09:39 > 0:09:43- ..and listened to the baby, - before seeing the doctor.
0:09:44 > 0:09:49- We're waiting for the doctor - to find out the time...
0:09:49 > 0:09:52- ..and if we'll be first or second.
0:09:53 > 0:09:55- That's all we're waiting for.
0:10:02 > 0:10:03- Hi, guys.
0:10:03 > 0:10:04- Hi, guys.- - Hi.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06- I'm Tommy, one of the doctors.
0:10:06 > 0:10:07- Can I get your name, please?
0:10:07 > 0:10:08- Can I get your name, please?- - Leanne Jones.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- So the first question - is how old are you?
0:10:12 > 0:10:13- Twenty six.
0:10:17 > 0:10:18- This is your fifth pregnancy?
0:10:18 > 0:10:19- This is your fifth pregnancy?- - Yes.
0:10:19 > 0:10:20- You have five children.
0:10:20 > 0:10:21- You have five children.- - Yes.
0:10:22 > 0:10:25- Three of them - were caesarian sections?
0:10:26 > 0:10:28- I've carried big babies.
0:10:28 > 0:10:30- I'm going to have trouble.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33- With Erin, I had shoulder dystocia.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37- After that, I had c-sections.
0:10:39 > 0:10:43- I'm having a planned - c-section this time too.
0:10:45 > 0:10:49- I think that's it. - Do you have any questions for me?
0:10:49 > 0:10:50- No.
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- I'm sure you're an expert, - this being number four.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58- OK, good. - I'll speak to the midwives.
0:10:59 > 0:11:03- I'm more nervous this time. - I know what's going to happen.
0:11:03 > 0:11:08- I don't know why I'm more anxious, - maybe in case I feel something.
0:11:08 > 0:11:12- I'm looking forward to Monday, - but worried too.
0:11:12 > 0:11:16- I don't know - what will happen on the day.
0:11:16 > 0:11:18- We'll see.
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0:11:50 > 0:11:52- We've arrived at Ysbyty Gwynedd.
0:11:52 > 0:11:57- We're having a baby today, - by c-section, hopefully.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00- Come in.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05- A caesarian section...
0:12:05 > 0:12:08- ..is the delivery of a baby...
0:12:08 > 0:12:13- ..through a surgical incision - in the mother's tummy.
0:12:14 > 0:12:16- I'm quite nervous.
0:12:17 > 0:12:19- I haven't slept much.
0:12:19 > 0:12:23- The waiting is the worst part.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25- I feel OK.
0:12:25 > 0:12:29- It'll kick in later, - when it's closer to the time.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32- Then I'll start to worry - and think about it.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36- Trying to stay calm - is all I can do.
0:12:37 > 0:12:43- The anaesthetist - will assess the mother.
0:12:43 > 0:12:47- She usually has - a spinal or general anaesthetic.
0:12:48 > 0:12:52- A spinal anaesthetic - is the most common.
0:12:52 > 0:12:57- The mother is numb from her feet - to the top of her tummy.
0:12:58 > 0:13:02- After that, the surgeon...
0:13:03 > 0:13:07- ..goes through the tummy - and womb to deliver the baby.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- My pulse is high.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20- That could be nerves.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25- Her heartbeat was 118 over 68.
0:13:26 > 0:13:29- The pulse was 100 to 98.
0:13:29 > 0:13:31- They're quite high.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- Have you got everything?
0:13:34 > 0:13:35- Lovely.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40- OK, then. I'll get the theatre gown.
0:13:40 > 0:13:42- OK? I won't be long.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00- Ouch! Watch my little toe.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- I'll be going to theatre...
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- ..in the next 15 minutes.
0:14:07 > 0:14:12- I thought - I'd have to wait two hours.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15- The plans have changed.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18- We're going down shortly.
0:14:20 > 0:14:22- We're ready to go.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26- Can you go to the toilet?
0:14:26 > 0:14:27- How many times have I been?
0:14:27 > 0:14:30- How many times have I been?- - They insist you empty your bladder.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31- Just through there?
0:14:31 > 0:14:33- Just through there?- - If you don't mind.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36- Dr Bolton asked me to check.
0:14:36 > 0:14:38- Then we can go.
0:14:39 > 0:14:41- I'll bring this with me.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45- You can change on the way.
0:14:45 > 0:14:47- You've done this before.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49- You've done this before.- - No, it's the first time.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53- The last one wasn't mine.
0:14:53 > 0:14:57- She had an emergency with the twins.
0:14:57 > 0:14:58- OK.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02- We'll wait for Leanne, then go.
0:15:03 > 0:15:06- She won't speak Welsh with me.
0:15:09 > 0:15:11- Are you OK?
0:15:11 > 0:15:15- You haven't had this before.
0:15:15 > 0:15:20- Yes, in 2009.
0:15:26 > 0:15:28- It was an emergency caesarian.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- It's the first time for Stephen.
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- INAUDIBLE
0:15:59 > 0:16:01- Tops there, bottoms there...
0:16:02 > 0:16:04- ..shoes there, and a cap.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- Do you want to see where to go?
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- Can you see the double doors?
0:16:15 > 0:16:17- There's a seat on the left.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- You can sit there - while she has the spinal.
0:16:21 > 0:16:26- I'll call you and - you can come straight in.
0:16:39 > 0:16:41- I was worried.
0:16:41 > 0:16:44- I didn't know what to expect.
0:16:51 > 0:16:57- You can sit here.
0:17:01 > 0:17:06- I felt ill after - the last c-section.
0:17:08 > 0:17:13- After the spinal, - my blood pressure goes down.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15- That doesn't help.
0:17:24 > 0:17:26- The baby's head is out, Leanne.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28- Hello, baby!
0:17:29 > 0:17:31- She's crying, which is a good thing.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41- Hello, gorgeous.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45- Big girl!
0:17:47 > 0:17:49- She's lovely.
0:17:49 > 0:17:53- Do you remember why - you had caesarians?
0:17:54 > 0:17:56- Right decision!
0:17:56 > 0:17:59- You're great big girl, aren't you?
0:18:00 > 0:18:02- You can pop her on the cot.
0:18:07 > 0:18:09- OK? Better now?
0:18:17 > 0:18:19- I'll bring her over for you to see.
0:18:22 > 0:18:24- Can you see her?
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- I was happy she was here.
0:18:29 > 0:18:33- But I was worried - while it was going on.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36- There was a lot of pressure - on Leanne.
0:18:36 > 0:18:38- They had to pull the baby out.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40- I felt sorry for Leanne.
0:18:42 > 0:18:47- I'm happy now it's happened. - Our little girl is here.
0:18:49 > 0:18:51- What is her name?
0:18:51 > 0:18:54- What is her name?- - Alys Liliana Margaret Rhys Burton.
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- Oh! Here she is.
0:18:57 > 0:19:00- We couldn't decide on the name.
0:19:03 > 0:19:06- Stephen liked Alys from the start.
0:19:07 > 0:19:12- I liked Liliana.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16- It's different.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21- Margaret is after Nain.
0:19:24 > 0:19:29- Oh, big girl! I can only - give her weight in kilos.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32- ALYS CRIES
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- Ssh.
0:19:40 > 0:19:43- She's a fair size!
0:19:44 > 0:19:46- I was a big boy.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50- All my parents' children - were big boys.
0:19:50 > 0:19:54- I expected her to be big.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58- Leanne's other children were big.
0:20:00 > 0:20:03- Let's go back to see Mam.
0:20:16 > 0:20:18- Are you OK?
0:20:20 > 0:20:23- She's beautiful and absolutely fine.
0:20:29 > 0:20:31- She's a good weight.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36- Everything was fine.
0:20:36 > 0:20:40- It was amazing to be there, - and hearing the machines.
0:20:40 > 0:20:44- I would have been - a doctor if I could.
0:20:44 > 0:20:46- I wasn't brainy enough.
0:21:03 > 0:21:05- Come along. Where's Alys?
0:21:06 > 0:21:11- Who is over here? Come here, Guto. - Who's over there?
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- Come here.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18- Aled, Guto, come here. Who is it?
0:21:21 > 0:21:23- Sit next to Dad.
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- Sit next to Dad.- - Who is it?
0:21:28 > 0:21:30- How's life with six children?
0:21:30 > 0:21:33- Hectic!
0:21:34 > 0:21:37- It's all about keeping to a routine.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41- That's what we do.
0:21:41 > 0:21:45- We have a good routine - with the children.
0:21:46 > 0:21:50- They know what they're doing, - how and when things happen.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53- When we say the word...
0:21:53 > 0:21:59- ..they'll go to bed, out to play, - or help round the house.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01- They know what and when to do it.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04- Are you going to give her a kiss?
0:22:05 > 0:22:07- Ah! That's sweet.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10- Do you want to give her a kiss?
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- Kiss?
0:22:16 > 0:22:20- What are your plans - for the next one?
0:22:21 > 0:22:22- There isn't going to be one.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- There isn't going to be one.- - No!
0:22:24 > 0:22:26- There won't be another child.
0:22:27 > 0:22:28- Six is enough.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30- Six is enough.- - More than enough.
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