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0:00:09 > 0:00:13- After leaving space-age Shanghai, - I've arrived in Chongqing...

0:00:13 > 0:00:17- ..the biggest city in terms of size - and population in south west China.

0:00:18 > 0:00:21- Hidden in the mountains - above the Yangtze River...

0:00:21 > 0:00:24- ..Chongqing used to be - part of Sichuan province...

0:00:25 > 0:00:27- ..but now it's a province - in its own right...

0:00:28 > 0:00:30- ..with a population - of thirty-two million.

0:00:30 > 0:00:32- Yes, that surprised me, too.

0:00:33 > 0:00:37- That's an awful lot of people - and an awful lot of launderettes!

0:00:40 > 0:00:46- I'm here to meet the people who - are helping to drive the new China.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49- Not people from cities - like Beijing and Shanghai...

0:00:50 > 0:00:53- ..but people - from the rural cities...

0:00:53 > 0:00:57- ..that I, like many others, - had never heard of.

0:00:57 > 0:00:59- Cities like Chongqing.

0:01:10 > 0:01:15- Chongqing is a busy port - 2,400 miles from Shanghai.

0:01:15 > 0:01:20- Here, traffic from the Yangtze - River meets the old trade routes...

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- ..from Tibet and Burma.

0:01:23 > 0:01:26- This place has always been - a regional trading centre...

0:01:27 > 0:01:29- ..and now, - the whole place is benefiting...

0:01:30 > 0:01:32- ..from Government investment.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39- There is evidence - of mass construction all around...

0:01:39 > 0:01:44- ..with new skyscrapers and roads - attracting more investment...

0:01:45 > 0:01:47- ..and more foreign companies.

0:01:48 > 0:01:52- The riverside is bustling - - dirty but full of life.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55- And it's also hot - painfully hot.

0:01:55 > 0:02:00- The temperature is in the forties. - It's so close here that I'm wet.

0:02:00 > 0:02:05- Now I know why the Chinese call - this place one of China's furnaces.

0:02:05 > 0:02:10- You don't need to be here long to - know that this is a city in a hurry.

0:02:11 > 0:02:16- If you're smart enough and tough - enough, you can make money here.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19- A great deal of money.

0:02:19 > 0:02:20- Like the man who lives here...

0:02:21 > 0:02:24- ..completely isolated behind steel - gates looking down on the city.

0:02:25 > 0:02:31- He is one of China's 100 wealthiest - people - Mr Zuo Zongshen.

0:02:32 > 0:02:34- My family were ordinary people.

0:02:35 > 0:02:39- In the eyes of Westerners, - we would have been considered poor.

0:02:41 > 0:02:45- The changes which were being made - in China 20 years ago...

0:02:45 > 0:02:48- ..created opportunities - for everybody.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52- Many people saw the opportunities - and took advantage of them.

0:02:52 > 0:02:53- I think I'm one of them.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- I think that I've been successful...

0:02:56 > 0:02:59- ..because of the - Government's reforming policies...

0:03:00 > 0:03:03- ..and because China - has opened its doors to the world.

0:03:03 > 0:03:08- Mr Zuo is one of the elite, - a man who has made his own fortune.

0:03:08 > 0:03:12- His home is testimony - to his success.

0:03:15 > 0:03:19- More than 60 people look after - the palace he calls home...

0:03:19 > 0:03:24- ..led by Mr Zuo's personal assistant - - a man called Jack Daniels!

0:03:25 > 0:03:28- Can Mr Zuo see the factory - from his house?

0:03:28 > 0:03:29- Sure. From up there.

0:03:30 > 0:03:33- Does he often stand up there - looking down at his factory?

0:03:33 > 0:03:35- Of course.

0:03:35 > 0:03:40- According to Jack, the whole house - is based on European designs.

0:03:40 > 0:03:43- Reproduction furniture - to you and me!

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- Although the house - is weighed down by opulent wealth...

0:03:49 > 0:03:52- ..I can't say - that it suits my taste.

0:03:53 > 0:03:54- Who designed it?

0:03:55 > 0:03:57- Actually, a Canadian.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00- Canadian designer.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03- Have you his name and address?

0:04:03 > 0:04:05- Oh, I'm sorry. I don't.

0:04:06 > 0:04:11- I don't think the Canadian designer - will be on my Christmas card list!

0:04:13 > 0:04:16- But what do I know?

0:04:16 > 0:04:20- For most of the year, - Mr Zuo lives here alone.

0:04:21 > 0:04:23- His wife runs a business - in Florida...

0:04:24 > 0:04:27- ..where she lives - with their son, Jeremy.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- This is Jeremy - in his American uniform.

0:04:30 > 0:04:34- The NYPD, with shades and a gun.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37- It's a pity I didn't get - to meet the son.

0:04:38 > 0:04:40- He looks like a nice lad to me.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42- Engines!

0:04:42 > 0:04:45- Why bring the bitch and not the dog?

0:04:45 > 0:04:49- With his wife and son in America, - two things keep Mr Zuo occupied.

0:04:50 > 0:04:51- His pedigree dogs...

0:04:52 > 0:04:55- I need a hair brush, you idiot!

0:04:55 > 0:04:57- ..and his work.

0:05:00 > 0:05:04- With my wife away, - I have more time to work.

0:05:04 > 0:05:07- Since I'm on my own, - I have nothing to worry about.

0:05:07 > 0:05:13- I have a lot of time to work at - night and I work on Sundays, too.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15- Work has become a habit for me.

0:05:15 > 0:05:18- I think that's the sort of man I am.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22- The company - that made Mr Zuo so wealthy...

0:05:22 > 0:05:25- ..isn't far from his palace - on the hill.

0:05:25 > 0:05:30- He named the company 'Zongshen - Motorcycles' after his family.

0:05:31 > 0:05:35- Mr Zuo has benefited from the - free market in the new economy...

0:05:36 > 0:05:39- ..but he supports Deng Xiaoping - and the Communist Party.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43- Deng's generation of leaders - thought that China...

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- ..had to improve - the living standards of its people.

0:05:47 > 0:05:51- There was a need for reform, - for opening up the country.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54- That was the path - that had to be followed...

0:05:54 > 0:05:58- ..to allow China's ordinary people - to become wealthier.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00- We call it communist trading.

0:06:02 > 0:06:06- The Zongshen company - is now well established.

0:06:06 > 0:06:11- Currently, most of Zongshen's - motorbikes are sold in Asia...

0:06:11 > 0:06:13- ..but Mr Zuo is already looking...

0:06:14 > 0:06:17- ..towards European - and American markets.

0:06:17 > 0:06:21- Success there will require - total commitment from his workforce.

0:06:22 > 0:06:29- Nothing could be done until the - inside of the building was complete.

0:06:30 > 0:06:34- Then, nothing could be done - until the outside was complete.

0:06:35 > 0:06:39- Then, it was too hot and we would - have to wait until the autumn.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42- And it's still not finished!

0:06:43 > 0:06:47- If I listened to you, - I'd be a pauper!

0:06:48 > 0:06:54- As the tension around the table - shows, you don't mess with Mr Zuo.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56- Faithful.

0:06:56 > 0:06:57- Detailed.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59- Innovative.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03- Our dinner ladies were never - like this when we were in school!

0:07:15 > 0:07:18- From a small workshop - at the start of the '80s...

0:07:18 > 0:07:22- ..Zongshen is now a company - employing 18,000 workers.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25- One reason for that success - is the wage...

0:07:25 > 0:07:28- ..far less than in European - and American factories.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30- But that's not the only reason.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- The company believes - in fostering a competitive spirit.

0:07:35 > 0:07:41- Mr Zuo demands the best from his - workers, and from what I can see...

0:07:41 > 0:07:44- ..what Mr Zuo wants, Mr Zuo gets.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51- What I want to do is develop - my industrial knowledge...

0:07:51 > 0:07:56- ..and create a centre for building - complete cars in one location.

0:07:56 > 0:07:58- This is going to play - an important role...

0:07:58 > 0:08:01- ..in the future - economic development of China.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06- Companies such as Zongshen have been - driving the new economy in China...

0:08:07 > 0:08:12- ..but the country hasn't turned its - back totally on its Communist past.

0:08:12 > 0:08:16- The Government still owns the - biggest car companies in China.

0:08:16 > 0:08:21- Companies such as the Shanghai - Motor Company, owners of MG Rover.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27- The Government also owns the energy, - oil, gas and coal companies.

0:08:27 > 0:08:31- And, of course, it owns the banks.

0:08:32 > 0:08:37- Who better to tell us about - the future of the new economy...

0:08:37 > 0:08:42- ..than one of the head honchos - of the Bank of China, Mr Zhu Min.

0:08:42 > 0:08:48- In the past 25 years, - China has stuck to one philosophy...

0:08:49 > 0:08:51- ..which is gradualism.

0:08:51 > 0:08:55- As the great Chinese leader, - Deng Xiaoping said...

0:08:55 > 0:08:59- .."We always cross the river - by touching the stones."

0:08:59 > 0:09:01- We move step by step.

0:09:01 > 0:09:07- So many people say China will - go bankrupt - China will collapse.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09- Every day.

0:09:09 > 0:09:13- On the other hand, people say - China can grow for ever!

0:09:14 > 0:09:18- Of course, there are no guarantees.

0:09:18 > 0:09:20- The good news is...

0:09:20 > 0:09:24- ..that in the past 10-20 years, - I think everybody has learnt...

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- ..a great deal.

0:09:27 > 0:09:31- Learned how to reform, - how to change.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34- Nothing is guaranteed - in the future...

0:09:34 > 0:09:37- ..but the past - has given us confidence.

0:09:37 > 0:09:39- Taking one step at a time - is the secret...

0:09:40 > 0:09:43- ..to ensuring the economic future - of China according to Zhu Min.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46- This unique mix - of communism and capitalism...

0:09:47 > 0:09:51- ..has improved the living standards - of millions of people.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54- It is the people who are driving - this economic miracle.

0:09:54 > 0:10:01- They are special people, - these migrant workers.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05- Their story is like a drama which - is acted out on an enormous scale.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10- Since the '80s, - over 300 million people...

0:10:10 > 0:10:14- ..almost a quarter - of the entire Chinese population...

0:10:14 > 0:10:18- ..have moved to the cities - in search of work.

0:10:18 > 0:10:22- They have to adapt quickly - to their new world.

0:10:24 > 0:10:29- As Norman Tebbit - told British workers in the '80s...

0:10:29 > 0:10:30- .."On your bike!"

0:10:31 > 0:10:33- The same thing is happening here.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36- But, here, it is happening - on an enormous scale.

0:10:36 > 0:10:38- The migrant workers don't know...

0:10:39 > 0:10:42- ..if the journey - will bring them pleasure or pain.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47- I went to the Langsha - Weaving Company...

0:10:47 > 0:10:51- ..to meet one of the young people - who have jumped on their bikes.

0:10:53 > 0:10:57- Liu Yong is one of 4,000 people - who work for the Langsha company...

0:10:58 > 0:11:00- ..all of them migrant workers.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03- Langsha is the world's - biggest manufacturer...

0:11:03 > 0:11:05- ..of socks, tights and bras.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10- As Europe - and Peter Mandelson know...

0:11:10 > 0:11:14- ..cheap bras and tights from China - are changing the world economy...

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- ..and destroying - all the competition.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- For Liu Yong, the journey so far - has been enjoyable.

0:11:21 > 0:11:25- She's 20 years old and comes - from one of China's poorest areas.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29- I come from Anhui.

0:11:30 > 0:11:32- My mother and father - still live at home.

0:11:33 > 0:11:38- Two days after I arrived, my - sister and I applied for jobs here.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40- I like working here.

0:11:40 > 0:11:45- At home, I had nothing to do - and my life was boring.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50- Liu Yong works a twelve-hour shift - each day, from 7.00am to 7.00pm...

0:11:50 > 0:11:55- ..making over 1,400 pairs of socks.

0:11:55 > 0:11:59- She earns 50p an hour, enough - to cover her living expenses...

0:11:59 > 0:12:04- ..do some shopping and send half of - what she earns back to her family.

0:12:07 > 0:12:11- When I first started, - I wasn't used to this sort of work.

0:12:11 > 0:12:15- It takes time to get used - to standing all the time.

0:12:16 > 0:12:22- I get so tired when I'm working - but once I take a break I'm fine.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24- Our weekends are free.

0:12:27 > 0:12:31- To Liu and her friends, - Langsha is central to their lives.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34- They live in a room - which sleeps ten.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38- Are they good-looking?

0:12:39 > 0:12:42- After washing your hair, - use a special liquid on it.

0:12:43 > 0:12:47- Wait a while - and wrap a towel around your head.

0:12:48 > 0:12:52- Langsha provides food - and accommodation for its workers...

0:12:52 > 0:12:56- ..and it also organises - all their entertainment...

0:12:57 > 0:12:59- ..such as a karaoke competition.

0:13:13 > 0:13:15- Thank you, Li Miao, - for that lovely song.

0:13:16 > 0:13:20- Next, Zheng Chunxia - from the Packaging Department.

0:13:20 > 0:13:24- I didn't wait to hear Zheng Chunxia - from the Packaging Department.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27- I've never been - very fond of karaoke...

0:13:27 > 0:13:29- ..but I was obviously the exception.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33- Perhaps life in a Chinese factory - looks hard, but for Liu Yong...

0:13:34 > 0:13:38- ..and thousands like her, it's a - better life than she had at home.

0:13:38 > 0:13:42- I am saving money for my future.

0:13:42 > 0:13:46- I want to improve myself. - I have my pride as well.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48- When I have saved enough money...

0:13:48 > 0:13:52- ..then I can study anything I want.

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0:14:05 > 0:14:09- Out in the countryside, - away from the bras and socks...

0:14:09 > 0:14:12- ..there are almost - 900 million people...

0:14:12 > 0:14:15- ..out of a population of - 1.3 billion who are still farming.

0:14:16 > 0:14:17- To a large extent...

0:14:18 > 0:14:23- ..most farmers are better off - than they were a generation ago.

0:14:24 > 0:14:27- Farmers can now grow whatever - they want but, more importantly...

0:14:28 > 0:14:31- ..they can keep what they earn.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35- Changes like this and the fact - that the migrant workers...

0:14:35 > 0:14:39- ..send money back to their families, - have lifted 200 million people...

0:14:39 > 0:14:41- ..out of poverty.

0:14:41 > 0:14:46- And all this in only 25 years.

0:14:47 > 0:14:50- But not everyone living - in the countryside is happy.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52- Some farmers are still poor.

0:14:52 > 0:14:54- Even the farmers - who are doing better...

0:14:55 > 0:14:58- ..complain that people in the cities - earn so much more than them.

0:14:58 > 0:15:04- The gap between the countryside - and the city in China is growing.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07- If the Government can't deal - with the tension...

0:15:07 > 0:15:10- ..between the countryside - and the towns...

0:15:10 > 0:15:14- ..it will endanger - the economic future of China.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17- Across China, people are leaving - the countryside...

0:15:17 > 0:15:20- ..to realise their dreams - in the towns.

0:15:20 > 0:15:25- Some succeed, but for others, - the dream becomes a nightmare...

0:15:25 > 0:15:29- ..as migrant worker - Li Jiuping told me.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33- Let me tell you something.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35- When people from the cities - come here...

0:15:35 > 0:15:38- ..they always say - how beautiful the scenery is.

0:15:38 > 0:15:43- But people who live here aren't - looking for beautiful scenery.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- Li Jiuping is 21. He left - his village and his family...

0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..when he was 16 - to travel to Shenzhen...

0:15:53 > 0:15:55- ..a city in south China, - to find a job.

0:16:00 > 0:16:03- I went to look for work - in a toy factory...

0:16:04 > 0:16:07- ..which had been opened - by a company from Hong Kong.

0:16:07 > 0:16:10- They produced toys for export. - They made stuffed pandas.

0:16:18 > 0:16:21- I got a job working - on the stuffing machine.

0:16:21 > 0:16:27- On my third day at work, - the machine swallowed my right hand.

0:16:33 > 0:16:37- I was in extreme pain. - I almost fainted.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43- After it happened, - I went to the hospital.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46- The boss said - that the cause of the accident...

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- ..was the way - I was operating the machine.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52- It was nothing to do with them.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01- Li asked for compensation, - but the company refused to pay.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06- There are rules - for paying compensation in China...

0:17:06 > 0:17:09- ..but the companies often find - clever ways to avoid pay-outs.

0:17:11 > 0:17:15- Li didn't have a penny to his name - and was disabled.

0:17:18 > 0:17:21- Before all this happened, - before the accident...

0:17:21 > 0:17:25- ..I was hoping to earn more money - and have a better life.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27- But after it happened...

0:17:28 > 0:17:30- ..I couldn't find any work.

0:17:30 > 0:17:34- No-one wanted me. - I only had one hand.

0:17:36 > 0:17:39- He had nowhere to turn - until he heard about a man...

0:17:39 > 0:17:41- ..who was famous - for his good work...

0:17:41 > 0:17:44- ..on behalf of workers - who'd had accidents at work...

0:17:44 > 0:17:46- ..lawyer Zhou Litai.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54- This is my first time in China.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56- First time in Chongqing.

0:17:57 > 0:18:01- People should realise - that the cases that I deal with...

0:18:01 > 0:18:04- ..show the real situation - of migrant workers.

0:18:04 > 0:18:08- What's happening to their bodies, - how they sacrifice their blood...

0:18:08 > 0:18:12- ..what the real nature of life is - behind the skyscrapers of Shenzhen.

0:18:13 > 0:18:19- Since the '90s, Zhou Litai - has worked on thousands of cases...

0:18:19 > 0:18:21- ..of workplace accidents.

0:18:21 > 0:18:26- He's helped hundreds of young men - who've lost a hand, an arm...

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- ..or a foot in local factories.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32- Zhou Litai's help - goes further than the courts.

0:18:32 > 0:18:37- He provides accommodation, food - and drink to the men he represents.

0:18:37 > 0:18:42- But, sometimes, his work attracts - the attention of local officials.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45- When I was handling court cases - in Shenzhen...

0:18:45 > 0:18:49- ..the local government said that - police were following me around.

0:18:49 > 0:18:52- These officials think that - economic growth is the priority.

0:18:52 > 0:18:56- They think that if they defend the - managers, they will keep their jobs.

0:18:57 > 0:19:02- Zhou Litai's office in Chongqing - is now bigger than ever.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06- He has hired more lawyers - to help him.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10- He's won a lot of money - in compensation for the workers.

0:19:10 > 0:19:14- Unfortunately, in the case - of Li Jiuping, he failed.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17- In the end, - I didn't get any compensation...

0:19:17 > 0:19:20- ..because I didn't have - an ID card...

0:19:20 > 0:19:25- ..at the time of the accident - - I'd borrowed one from someone else.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28- The judge ruled - that I had no rights.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34- But Zhou Litai helped Li - in another way.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36- He offered him a job.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40- Zhou Litai has trained - a lot of former clients...

0:19:40 > 0:19:44- ..to help him keep control - of his never-ending caseload.

0:19:57 > 0:20:01- While working for a local painting - and decorating company...

0:20:01 > 0:20:06- ..Yang Tianjiang was injured - - sheets of glass fell on his foot.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11- Now, he can't afford crutches - and worse still, he's homeless.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15- Show me your foot, please.

0:20:15 > 0:20:20- He's been to court already, - but the judge rejected his appeal.

0:20:22 > 0:20:25- The ligament is torn.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28- They tried to re-connect it...

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- ..but in doing so, - something went wrong.

0:20:32 > 0:20:35- Where do you live now?

0:20:35 > 0:20:38- I'm with my seventy-year-old mother.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41- Do you and your mother - beg on the streets?

0:20:42 > 0:20:43- Yes.

0:20:43 > 0:20:46- There's no telling - what will happen in court.

0:20:46 > 0:20:48- I can only admire his courage...

0:20:49 > 0:20:52- ..and the courage of Zhou Litai - for trying to help.

0:20:56 > 0:20:58- Over the past 20 years...

0:20:58 > 0:21:03- ..China has been transformed - from an extremely poor country...

0:21:03 > 0:21:07- ..to a developing country - - this hasn't been easy.

0:21:07 > 0:21:12- But we cannot sacrifice the law - or the bodies and lives of people...

0:21:12 > 0:21:14- ..just to develop the economy.

0:21:15 > 0:21:19- This isn't the sort of country - we really want.

0:21:25 > 0:21:26- Zhou Litai is right.

0:21:27 > 0:21:31- But, as I discovered in Shanghai, - there's a huge difference...

0:21:31 > 0:21:34- ..between the theory - and the practice of law in China.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- It's the innocent people - who usually pay the price.

0:21:38 > 0:21:44- It's a story which is familiar - to us by now, all over the world.

0:21:49 > 0:21:53- In Chongqing, - as in similar cities across China...

0:21:53 > 0:21:56- ..some people make money, - and others don't.

0:21:56 > 0:22:00- In a few years, China will be - the world's biggest economy.

0:22:01 > 0:22:05- But, in terms of law and order, - it's more like the Wild West.

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- Without people, - there would be no new economy...

0:22:11 > 0:22:15- ..but without law and order, no - country worth its salt can survive.

0:22:17 > 0:22:22- But, the people I've met, - both rich and poor, have a desire...

0:22:22 > 0:22:26- ..for a fair and successful future - in the new China.

0:22:26 > 0:22:30- And that's a hopeful sign. - Only time will tell.

0:22:32 > 0:22:36- Some of our problems have - unique Chinese characteristics.

0:22:36 > 0:22:39- It's hard for the West - to understand.

0:22:39 > 0:22:41- I wish they could understand China.

0:22:42 > 0:22:46- China has problems as it develops, - but these problems are normal.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49- They will be resolved - as China develops.

0:22:53 > 0:22:55- I dream of becoming a doctor.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58- Parents are supposed to look after - their children...

0:22:59 > 0:23:01- ..and make sure they are safe.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04- If something bad happens - to children...

0:23:04 > 0:23:07- ..they can always rely - on a doctor to help them.

0:23:07 > 0:23:13- If I ever have the opportunity, - I'd like to open my own surgery.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24- My son is almost three years old.

0:23:24 > 0:23:28- We want to find a way of giving - him some sort of education...

0:23:28 > 0:23:30- ..when he is older.

0:23:30 > 0:23:35- I don't want him to have to leave - and go away to work somewhere else.

0:23:36 > 0:23:39- I want him to have a better life...

0:23:39 > 0:23:44- ..but you never know how things - will turn out in the future.

0:24:26 > 0:24:28- S4C subtitles by Rh Sion Morgan