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0:00:04 > 0:00:07- The Valleys - have always been my home.

0:00:07 > 0:00:12- Each valley with its industrial - scars and colourful characters...

0:00:12 > 0:00:15- ..have left - a lasting impression on me.

0:00:19 > 0:00:23- Over the coming weeks, - I'll revisit the Valleys...

0:00:24 > 0:00:27- ..and meet characters - who are truly welcoming.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30- Why not jump on board my ride?

0:00:31 > 0:00:34- I'm shifting gear - and heading for the horizon!

0:00:48 > 0:00:52- The Amman Valley, - which is very close to my heart.

0:00:53 > 0:00:55- It's full of happy memories.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57- It was an important place - in the 1940s.

0:00:57 > 0:00:59- Brynamman was my home.

0:00:59 > 0:01:02- It was one of the largest villages - in the valley.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05- I had a very happy upbringing there.

0:01:08 > 0:01:13- My journey takes me to Tairgwaith, - Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen, Glanamman...

0:01:13 > 0:01:14- ..then Ammanford...

0:01:15 > 0:01:19- ..where I received my grammar school - education in the 1950s.

0:01:26 > 0:01:29- But I start on the Black Mountain - above Brynamman.

0:01:30 > 0:01:31- Heaven on earth.

0:01:31 > 0:01:34- This was my paradise as a young boy.

0:01:34 > 0:01:37- A playground - for the children of the village.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40- We hardly realized at the time...

0:01:40 > 0:01:44- ..how lucky we were - to live in such a beautiful place.

0:01:44 > 0:01:46- The Whitsun holidays, on the Monday.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50- The children from the villages - who were aged 10-13...

0:01:50 > 0:01:53- ..would walk - to Carreg Cennen Castle.

0:01:53 > 0:01:57- We'd all meet up, have a picnic - and then walk back.

0:01:57 > 0:02:01- Even now, - nobody knows why we did that.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03- It was an age-old tradition.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14- I received my first education - inside this building...

0:02:14 > 0:02:18- ..Brynamman infants' school, - which is now a community centre.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22- I remember my first day - at Brynamman infants' school.

0:02:23 > 0:02:24- I came here with Mam.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- Miss Llewellyn, - the head teacher, said...

0:02:27 > 0:02:31- .."Mrs Noble, there's no room - for him. Come back next term."

0:02:31 > 0:02:33- Mam was disappointed.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36- I went up the Mountain - trying to contain my delight.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40- I remember playing chariots - in the yard, before Ben Hur.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43- I crouched down - and two boys were the horses.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46- We went around - and there were sparks everywhere!

0:02:47 > 0:02:49- We had nails in our shoes back then.

0:02:52 > 0:02:57- Hobnailed boots or not, every child - had to dress smartly for school.

0:02:57 > 0:03:01- A shirt and tie and a nice jacket - for the boys.

0:03:01 > 0:03:06- Despite the uncertainty and cajoling - of those early days...

0:03:06 > 0:03:09- ..I only have fond memories now.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13- I remember coming here - when I was four years old.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16- It's amazing that we can remember.

0:03:16 > 0:03:18- There wasn't a nursery school - back then.

0:03:19 > 0:03:20- We'd get so tired...

0:03:20 > 0:03:24- ..that Miss Jones let us sleep - with our heads on the desk!

0:03:24 > 0:03:25- She'd sing us to sleep.

0:03:26 > 0:03:30- During PE, we'd spend half an hour - finding the daps from the cupboard!

0:03:30 > 0:03:35- We're now sitting where the - corridor used to be in the school.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39- Do you remember the coal fire? - There wasn't any central heating.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41- Every class had a coal fire.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45- The caretaker, Miss Pugh, - lived here.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48- She'd bring in coal - during the lessons.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51- Yes. I remember - all the teachers' names.

0:03:52 > 0:03:54- It's changed, but it looks good.

0:03:54 > 0:03:57- This is now an important centre.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00- The centre is very, very important.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04- The school closed in 2000.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08- It's now the location - of the surgery and the library.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12- There's a cafe - and classes are held here too.

0:04:12 > 0:04:17- Swansea University come here often - offering courses.

0:04:17 > 0:04:21- Cross fingers, - there'll be a post office here too.

0:04:21 > 0:04:24- The post office - has closed in Brynamman.

0:04:24 > 0:04:26- Back in the early days - in Brynamman...

0:04:26 > 0:04:29- ..the village was known as - Y Gwter Fawr (Big Gutter).

0:04:30 > 0:04:34- It was the name of one coal mine - in particular in Lower Brynamman.

0:04:35 > 0:04:39- It was in the 19th century - that the village grew.

0:04:39 > 0:04:43- There was coal, iron and tin here.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46- People thronged here.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50- There were two tracks in Brynamman. - GWR came from Llanelli.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53- Imagine that - two stations!

0:04:53 > 0:04:58- It all happened - to transport the coal and iron.

0:04:58 > 0:05:03- If they'd kept the railway open, - the roads would be better.

0:05:03 > 0:05:08- Going down to Ammanford - in the morning is a headache!

0:05:11 > 0:05:17- One good thing that came out of - the coal mines was the welfare fund.

0:05:17 > 0:05:22- They gave a penny a ton in order - to bring facilities to the village.

0:05:22 > 0:05:26- We got a cinema, a swimming pool - and a park.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29- The cinema is smashing.

0:05:29 > 0:05:33- We get the latest films - on the day of their release.

0:05:33 > 0:05:37- This is where we bought the tickets. - This booth hasn't changed.

0:05:37 > 0:05:41- I'd come here with Mam. This - is where the excitement would start.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44- Threepence for a ticket - and we were in.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59- Brian Harries has given over - 50 years of his life to the place.

0:06:00 > 0:06:03- As chairman, - he ensures its success continues.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08- Brian, sitting here takes me back.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11- Brynamman Public Hall.

0:06:11 > 0:06:15- I came here twice a week - because the films changed.

0:06:15 > 0:06:19- A new film was shown from Thursday - until Saturday.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22- There were new films - on Mondays and Thursdays.

0:06:22 > 0:06:27- I'd usually sit in the first - three rows with the other children.

0:06:27 > 0:06:30- Boys on one side - and girls on the other.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33- You weren't allowed to swap sides.

0:06:33 > 0:06:36- There were operettas here too.

0:06:36 > 0:06:38- There were.

0:06:38 > 0:06:41- We had "go as you please"...

0:06:42 > 0:06:44- ..especially on Wednesdays.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46- There were chapel eisteddfods.

0:06:47 > 0:06:52- They'd take place on Wednesday, - Thursday, Friday until Saturday.

0:06:52 > 0:06:55- They started early - and finished late.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57- The hall is still going strong.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59- It's in good condition.

0:06:59 > 0:07:03- We try our best - to keep it up to standard.

0:07:03 > 0:07:05- A personal question maybe...

0:07:05 > 0:07:08- ..how many get paid - for running this place?

0:07:09 > 0:07:12- The only people who get paid here...

0:07:12 > 0:07:17- ..are the usherettes, - who also do the cleaning...

0:07:17 > 0:07:20- ..and the three - working in the projection box.

0:07:21 > 0:07:21- They get paid.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23- They get paid.- - They get paid.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25- Everyone else is voluntary.

0:07:32 > 0:07:37- Brian, you must feel like Captain - Kirk here with these machines!

0:07:37 > 0:07:40- Ha ha! - This is the centre of attraction.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43- There are modern things - by your feet...

0:07:43 > 0:07:47- ..but this machine - is the soul of this place.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- Yes, it dates back to the 1950s, - when CinemaScope came out.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54- There's no film for it any more.

0:07:56 > 0:08:00- I've kept this for nostalgia.

0:08:00 > 0:08:01- I've kept this for nostalgia.- - I see.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03- How did it work?

0:08:03 > 0:08:06- If that reel finishes, - you have to change it.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09- When they came out, - carbon arcs were in here.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- Two arcs touching - would ignite, giving out light.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16- These days, it's a xenon lamp.

0:08:17 > 0:08:19- You turn it on - and it keeps going all day.

0:08:19 > 0:08:21- It's very good.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24- A CinemaScope is in this.

0:08:25 > 0:08:27- The film goes in.

0:08:27 > 0:08:31- When it's finished, - we get another one.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34- When the spot comes on, - we start up another machine.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37- Another spot, and we change it over.

0:08:37 > 0:08:40- The other one carries on - from where the other finishes.

0:08:40 > 0:08:41- The audience don't notice.

0:08:41 > 0:08:43- The audience don't notice.- - Not at all.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56- Down the valley - is the village of Tairgwaith...

0:08:57 > 0:09:00- ..named after three busy coal pits - in the area...

0:09:01 > 0:09:03- ..Maerdy, East Pit and Steer Pit.

0:09:04 > 0:09:08- At one time, the three - employed over 2,500 colliers.

0:09:10 > 0:09:13- This is the site of Steer Pit.

0:09:13 > 0:09:18- Tad-cu was killed there, - not underground but on the surface.

0:09:18 > 0:09:20- He was hit by a truck.

0:09:20 > 0:09:23- I remember the day. - I was ill at home with measles.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26- Mam was shaking the mat - out the upstairs window.

0:09:27 > 0:09:29- She said suddenly, - "David John is coming."

0:09:30 > 0:09:32- He was Tad-cu's partner.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- He came to see us - in the middle of a shift.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39- I remember what he said - when Mam opened the door.

0:09:39 > 0:09:42- He was quite direct. - "Francis has been killed."

0:09:43 > 0:09:47- He was kinder - when he went to tell Mam-gu.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58- The site - of the Steer and Maerdy pits...

0:09:58 > 0:10:01- ..is now a trotting racetrack.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05- It attracts a number of visitors - for a very special reason.

0:10:06 > 0:10:08- This has been developed - and extended.

0:10:09 > 0:10:12- You told me that this is - the fastest track in Britain.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15- It's the fastest track in Britain.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19- The British record - was set on this track.

0:10:19 > 0:10:20- It's the best track.

0:10:21 > 0:10:26- All the horses that come here - run faster than they run elsewhere.

0:10:26 > 0:10:27- Do they?

0:10:28 > 0:10:30- When was the track built?

0:10:30 > 0:10:34- We started the club here in '79.

0:10:34 > 0:10:36- 1979.

0:10:37 > 0:10:38- Why here?

0:10:38 > 0:10:41- From Brynamman down to Ammanford...

0:10:42 > 0:10:45- ..around 18 of us had race horses.

0:10:46 > 0:10:50- We were travelling around Wales...

0:10:50 > 0:10:52- ..racing here and there.

0:10:52 > 0:10:57- We felt we should have our own track - so we did something about it.

0:11:02 > 0:11:07- Huw Thomas was one of those keen to - start a trotting club at Tairgwaith.

0:11:07 > 0:11:11- He's reared and raced - trotting horses for 30 years.

0:11:14 > 0:11:19- This place has high standards, - but the horses aren't pampered.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21- Are they the professionals?

0:11:22 > 0:11:25- No, they're not pampered - like a family pet, Roy.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29- They know what their job is - and they do it.

0:11:29 > 0:11:33- Where has your interest - in horses and trotting come from?

0:11:33 > 0:11:36- I don't know. - All I can think of is Tad-cu.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39- He had one trotting horse, - Black Field Bess.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41- Mam gave me a photo of him.

0:11:42 > 0:11:43- I've still got it.

0:11:43 > 0:11:47- All my horses - have the prefix Black Field...

0:11:47 > 0:11:49- ..after Tad-cu.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57- Huw, thankfully my wife isn't here.

0:11:57 > 0:12:00- She'd want - one of these in our garden...

0:12:00 > 0:12:03- ..as she says - I don't get enough exercise!

0:12:03 > 0:12:04- I'd be in there!

0:12:06 > 0:12:07- Is that its purpose?

0:12:07 > 0:12:09- Is that its purpose?- - Yes, to train them.

0:12:09 > 0:12:11- It saves me a lot of time.

0:12:11 > 0:12:14- I put five of them on - in the morning...

0:12:14 > 0:12:17- ..while I muck out - and prepare their stables.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21- I'll also take two or three - of them out during the day as well.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24- But I don't have to take - all five out.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29- It's obvious - that horses are in the blood.

0:12:29 > 0:12:34- Elizabeth, Huw's daughter, has also - had success in the equine world.

0:12:34 > 0:12:37- Like her father, - she's made a name for herself.

0:12:37 > 0:12:41- You looked a picture - on the back of George just now!

0:12:41 > 0:12:42- Thank you.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46- It's obvious - that horses are in your blood.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48- Your father goes trotting.

0:12:49 > 0:12:50- Mam and Dad have done it.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53- You've gone in another direction.

0:12:53 > 0:12:54- Yes, I do eventing.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59- Dressage, showjumping - and cross country.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- You've reached a high standard.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07- You were selected for Wales - last year.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10- Yes, under 25s team dressage.

0:13:10 > 0:13:12- I've done it for two years.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14- I'm going to try - to do it this year too.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18- I have to wait - to see if I'm selected.

0:13:18 > 0:13:23- Having represented Wales, - does this mean you're on the path...

0:13:23 > 0:13:27- ..to being on Great Britain's - eventing team?

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- Dressage is separate to eventing.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33- If you do dressage, that's it.

0:13:33 > 0:13:37- Eventing is three events - - it's a totally different ball game.

0:13:37 > 0:13:39- You can do both.

0:13:39 > 0:13:43- Yes. I have three horses - which all do something different.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46- George has competed in dressage...

0:13:46 > 0:13:51- ..but I'm going to change him - to eventing because he can jump.

0:13:52 > 0:13:56- I'm going to do dressage - with another horse this year.

0:13:56 > 0:13:58- Good luck.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02- I'll keep an eye out for your name.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04- I can say then, "I know her!"

0:14:05 > 0:14:06- Thank you.

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0:14:20 > 0:14:23- Garnant and Glanamman - are between Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen...

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- ..and the largest town - in the valley, Ammanford...

0:14:27 > 0:14:29- ..where I attended secondary school.

0:14:29 > 0:14:32- Amman Valley Grammar School - which is now a comprehensive.

0:14:33 > 0:14:35- I started here the same year...

0:14:35 > 0:14:38- ..as Derec Llwyd Morgan, Dafydd Iwan - and John Cale.

0:14:38 > 0:14:42- Passing the eleven plus to get into - a grammar school was an achievement.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46- If the family - thought you had the ability...

0:14:46 > 0:14:49- ..but weren't performing - in primary school...

0:14:49 > 0:14:54- ..your mother would take you to see - a woman in Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen...

0:14:54 > 0:14:57- ..who was an expert - on all sorts of things.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00- She was an artist in one thing, - cutting the lethargy.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03- She would take you to the parlour, - apparently.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07- She had a large bowl of warm water, - a towel and a knife.

0:15:07 > 0:15:09- She'd cut your ear.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11- As the blood ran down - and was released...

0:15:12 > 0:15:14- ..your innate abilities - were released too.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17- You could become - an Einstein overnight.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20- If you were very stupid, - she'd do both sides.

0:15:20 > 0:15:22- No-one talked about it.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25- But if you went to the area - and looked at people my age...

0:15:26 > 0:15:29- ..who can't wear glasses properly, - I think they've had it done.

0:15:32 > 0:15:34- In Ammanford...

0:15:35 > 0:15:39- ..there's a company renowned - for making high-quality woollens.

0:15:40 > 0:15:43- The company's going - from strength to strength.

0:15:44 > 0:15:47- They sell their goods - to the giants of the fashion world.

0:15:48 > 0:15:54- Lisa, your great-great-great - grandfather began the business.

0:15:54 > 0:15:55- Yes, in 1892.

0:15:55 > 0:16:00- He made socks for the colliers - to wear on Sundays...

0:16:00 > 0:16:02- ..I think.

0:16:02 > 0:16:06- I read that the socks were thick - and went quite high up the leg.

0:16:06 > 0:16:09- Were the socks for the chapel - different?

0:16:10 > 0:16:12- Yes.

0:16:12 > 0:16:17- We don't know but I think the long - ones were to be worn for work...

0:16:17 > 0:16:20- ..down the mines...

0:16:20 > 0:16:25- ..and the Argyll ones with a diamond - pattern were to be worn on Sundays.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28- My grandfather made the socks.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32- When Dadi started in the company, - he began making knitwear.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34- When my brother and I came back...

0:16:34 > 0:16:38- ..we began making - fine gauge socks...

0:16:38 > 0:16:41- ..to wear for work.

0:16:41 > 0:16:45- The socks that Dadi made - were more casual.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47- You said "when I came back".

0:16:47 > 0:16:52- You decided to leave Ammanford - and to go out into the world.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56- Yes. I went to university - in Leicester.

0:16:56 > 0:16:59- I then worked at George, Asda.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04- I started in ladies knitwear and - then I did children's accessories.

0:17:05 > 0:17:07- Then I was the boyswear buyer - for a year.

0:17:08 > 0:17:12- I worked in Hong Kong, China, - Mauritius, Singapore. Everywhere!

0:17:12 > 0:17:14- BELL

0:17:14 > 0:17:15- The break's over!

0:17:15 > 0:17:17- The break's over!- - Yes, the break's over!

0:17:19 > 0:17:24- It's an old company, but one - which has had royal approval.

0:17:24 > 0:17:25- Quite a feat.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29- The whole family - are supportive of their goods.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32- Prince Charles is a fan. - I've seen his picture out there.

0:17:33 > 0:17:37- He's been down to the factory floor. - He wears the socks.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40- We've done clothes - for Prince George.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43- He got a sweater - with George on the front.

0:17:43 > 0:17:46- Prince Harry and Prince William too.

0:17:46 > 0:17:48- We've done work - for a lot of the family.

0:17:48 > 0:17:54- The Scottish regiment - you see them - with their bagpipes and bearskins.

0:17:54 > 0:17:58- You see their kilts and their socks. - You make the socks.

0:17:58 > 0:18:03- At every wedding or if - they're outside Buckingham Palace...

0:18:03 > 0:18:05- ..they're all wearing Corgi socks.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08- It's important for us - to have the Royal Warrant...

0:18:09 > 0:18:12- ..because we go to New York - and Japan.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14- It's a mark of quality.

0:18:16 > 0:18:18- There are experts in their field - here.

0:18:18 > 0:18:22- Many of the products - are made with the machines...

0:18:22 > 0:18:26- ..used by Lisa's grandfather - over a century ago.

0:18:29 > 0:18:31- This is the bespoke area.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33- Not many of these are made.

0:18:33 > 0:18:35- No. One or two a day.

0:18:35 > 0:18:36- No. One or two a day.- - Only one or two?

0:18:36 > 0:18:37- Yes.

0:18:37 > 0:18:39- Yes.- - So they're handmade.

0:18:39 > 0:18:40- Yes.

0:18:40 > 0:18:44- Where do they end up? - Which labels would be on them?

0:18:44 > 0:18:47- We work with companies - like Burberry, Thom Browne...

0:18:48 > 0:18:50- ..Isetan in Japan...

0:18:50 > 0:18:56- ..Selfridges, Harrods, - Richard James.

0:18:56 > 0:19:00- Lots of people in high-end fashion.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03- I don't want to appear a show off.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06- Mam used to knit with number 15s.

0:19:07 > 0:19:08- This is a cable stitch.

0:19:08 > 0:19:10- Yes. Do you want a job?!

0:19:12 > 0:19:16- A successful business - moves with the times and adapts...

0:19:16 > 0:19:21- ..in the fashion world especially - - a challenge for Lisa and her team.

0:19:22 > 0:19:26- I travel, so I see what's out there - and what people want.

0:19:27 > 0:19:31- We have trade shows - in New York, Japan and Italy.

0:19:31 > 0:19:37- When we go there, I look at - what other people are doing...

0:19:38 > 0:19:41- ..to keep up with everyone - and to try new things.

0:19:42 > 0:19:46- It lifts my spirits - to see a factory like this...

0:19:47 > 0:19:51- ..which is not only successful - but it's always developing.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54- It's such a tough business.

0:19:54 > 0:19:57- It is, but we - just have to try new things.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00- Keep moving forwards.

0:20:00 > 0:20:04- Fingers crossed, we'll be here - for another 100 years.

0:20:04 > 0:20:06- I hope so.

0:20:06 > 0:20:12- Other countries say that if you want - quality, Corgi is the place to go.

0:20:12 > 0:20:13- Well done.

0:20:13 > 0:20:14- Well done.- - Thank you.

0:20:26 > 0:20:32- Before leaving the Amman Valley, - I return to Tairgwaith.

0:20:32 > 0:20:36- There's a challenge for Huw Thomas - and his racehorses.

0:20:38 > 0:20:41- Huw - second, first, third.

0:20:41 > 0:20:42- Are you pleased?

0:20:43 > 0:20:44- Yes. I can't complain.

0:20:44 > 0:20:47- The standard of the horses - is very high.

0:20:48 > 0:20:52- To have finished first, second and - third in three different races...

0:20:52 > 0:20:54- ..I'm very happy.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57- How are the horses - in weather like this?

0:20:57 > 0:20:58- Are they different when it's dry?

0:20:58 > 0:20:59- Are they different when it's dry?- - Yes.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02- Different conditions - suit different horses.

0:21:02 > 0:21:06- Some horses like it when it's wet, - others can't stand wet weather.

0:21:07 > 0:21:12- Is it worth me putting a bet down - on another of your horses?

0:21:12 > 0:21:14- Or has your best one run?

0:21:15 > 0:21:17- The best one has run, Roy.

0:21:18 > 0:21:21- Though strange things - happen in races.

0:21:23 > 0:21:26- Despite the rain - and tough conditions...

0:21:26 > 0:21:30- ..three races so far and a few - pennies in his pocket, I'm sure.

0:21:30 > 0:21:33- But he has two races to go.

0:21:33 > 0:21:34- Let's have a bet.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37- I was going to put 20 down.

0:21:38 > 0:21:41- But the voice of the manager - at home, Elaine, my wife...

0:21:42 > 0:21:43- ..was saying, "Steady on."

0:21:44 > 0:21:47- So I put 5 down on Black Bird.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50- If he wins, I get 25 back.

0:21:50 > 0:21:51- We'll see.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22- Half a length. - That's all that was in it.

0:22:23 > 0:22:26- I was too excited. I should've - gone for an each-way bet.

0:22:27 > 0:22:31- That's 5 gone. - Five loaves of bread.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36- It was close. I put a fiver down.

0:22:36 > 0:22:38- It was half a length.

0:22:38 > 0:22:39- It was half a length.- - Half a length.

0:22:39 > 0:22:41- Another 20 yards and you'd have won.

0:22:41 > 0:22:45- Hard to say. If I'd gone sooner, - I could've gone past him.

0:22:46 > 0:22:51- The home straight - is a little short sometimes.

0:22:51 > 0:22:52- You've worked hard.

0:22:52 > 0:22:56- You're covered in mud. - It's good for the complexion!

0:22:56 > 0:22:58- Let me ask you a question.

0:22:58 > 0:23:03- Have you won money along - with the trophies and rosettes?

0:23:03 > 0:23:05- Yes. For a change, yes.

0:23:05 > 0:23:10- After a win, a second and two third - places, I've money in my pocket.

0:23:10 > 0:23:11- Well done.

0:23:11 > 0:23:12- Well done.- - Not a lot.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15- I've only been to watch trotting - twice.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18- Really? - You'll have to come more often.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20- I don't go out much.

0:23:20 > 0:23:22- Thank you for your welcome.

0:23:22 > 0:23:23- It was a pleasure.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26- It was a pleasure.- - Thank you for coming, Roy.

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