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0:00:18 > 0:00:21- Hello and welcome to Ffermio.

0:00:21 > 0:00:27- The bank holiday is upon us - and it's busy in the countryside...

0:00:27 > 0:00:33- ..as people prepare to welcome - thousands of visitors to the area.

0:00:33 > 0:00:39- Near Dolgellau, there is much - discussion, uncertainty even...

0:00:39 > 0:00:43- ..to do with the name - of one of our main attractions.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45- More on that later.

0:00:46 > 0:00:51- Also on the programme, Meinir visits - Illtud Dunsford and his Welsh pigs.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53- A few days before the voting...

0:00:54 > 0:00:58- ..we have a summary of the parties' - manifestos in the Assembly election.

0:01:00 > 0:01:03- First, with the price of milk - still so low...

0:01:04 > 0:01:09- ..Daloni went to Flintshire - to look for a glimmer of hope...

0:01:09 > 0:01:11- ..from an organic dairy farmer.

0:01:18 > 0:01:22- Argoed Farm in the village - of New Brighton, Mold...

0:01:23 > 0:01:26- ..is home to Stuart Taylor - and his family.

0:01:26 > 0:01:27- He was raised here.

0:01:28 > 0:01:33- For the last 16 years, they've - farmed the 150 acres organically.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39- I came home to farm with my father - around 30 years ago.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43- We became organic...

0:01:44 > 0:01:49- ..after the quotas were introduced - in '84.

0:01:50 > 0:01:54- By 2000, we were organic.

0:01:55 > 0:01:57- So it was a gradual process.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59- Yes.

0:01:59 > 0:02:00- Yes.- - What did you do?

0:02:04 > 0:02:07- We stopped using nitrogen.

0:02:07 > 0:02:13- What scared us - was not using fertilizer.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16- But it's been fine.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19- How does the system work here?

0:02:19 > 0:02:20- It works very well.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24- As we're a dairy farm...

0:02:24 > 0:02:29- ..we have plenty of slurry - for the grass.

0:02:29 > 0:02:33- We keep on top of the weeds.

0:02:33 > 0:02:35- It's a good system for us.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43- They milk 70 British Friesian cows.

0:02:44 > 0:02:48- At the moment, - the price of organic milk is stable.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52- Compared to conventional milk...

0:02:53 > 0:02:55- ..the organic market is strong.

0:02:56 > 0:02:57- Yes, it is.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00- But it has been - as low as the conventional.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04- How much do you receive per litre?

0:03:04 > 0:03:07- At the moment, 32p a litre.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09- Has it come down?

0:03:09 > 0:03:14- A little, because of spring, - as there's more milk about.

0:03:14 > 0:03:17- In winter, it was 36p.

0:03:18 > 0:03:23- Everyone should receive over 30p.

0:03:23 > 0:03:29- That's what enables the farmer - to earn a living...

0:03:29 > 0:03:31- ..and look after the land.

0:03:32 > 0:03:38- I wouldn't be able to survive - if I farmed conventionally.

0:03:38 > 0:03:39- We're too small.

0:03:39 > 0:03:44- But since we're organic, - it's extra income for us.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56- As well as farming organically...

0:03:56 > 0:03:59- ..Stuart has also created - wildlife habitats...

0:03:59 > 0:04:01- ..without any financial support.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05- He's also installed renewables - on the farm...

0:04:05 > 0:04:08- ..to reduce electricity costs.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14- The grass is thick, Stuart!

0:04:15 > 0:04:17- It's worth seeing.

0:04:17 > 0:04:22- It's unexpected at this time of year - with all the wet weather.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25- It's been wet but mild too.

0:04:26 > 0:04:30- We've had very little frost - this winter.

0:04:30 > 0:04:33- There are lots of dandelions.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34- Is that good?

0:04:35 > 0:04:39- It's full of minerals for the cattle - and provides food for the bees.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42- What will you do with this?

0:04:43 > 0:04:45- Silage and then pasture.

0:04:46 > 0:04:48- One crop a year?

0:04:48 > 0:04:50- No, two or three.

0:04:51 > 0:04:52- From this one field?

0:04:52 > 0:04:53- From this one field?- - Yes.

0:04:53 > 0:04:56- All this has had - is your own fertilizer.

0:04:56 > 0:04:58- Yes, slurry.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- It's almost making my mouth water!

0:05:02 > 0:05:05- No wonder the cattle - are looking so good.

0:05:05 > 0:05:06- Thank you.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09- You use renewable energy here.

0:05:09 > 0:05:13- Yes, we have PVs - to generate electricity...

0:05:13 > 0:05:19- ..and solar panels - to generate hot water.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21- That helps with the milking.

0:05:21 > 0:05:22- That helps with the milking.- - It does.

0:05:22 > 0:05:24- It keeps the bills down.

0:05:25 > 0:05:29- Yes. They're around 30% less - after installing the PVs.

0:05:29 > 0:05:32- You obviously do - a lot of conservation work here.

0:05:32 > 0:05:35- Yes. I enjoy - planting hedgerows and trees.

0:05:36 > 0:05:38- When did you plant this one?

0:05:38 > 0:05:40- Two years ago.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43- There are 250 metres here.

0:05:44 > 0:05:49- I spent two weeks - planting a little every afternoon...

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- ..just before Christmas.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54- Hawthorns. They like the position.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56- They do. They've done very well.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01- Are you part of a scheme where - you have to do this sort of work?

0:06:01 > 0:06:05- No, I do it because I enjoy it.

0:06:08 > 0:06:13- It's obvious that Stuart is - passionate about the way he farms.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15- You get the feeling...

0:06:15 > 0:06:20- ..that although he has to take care - of the financial side of things...

0:06:21 > 0:06:23- ..he farms from the heart.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26- I prefer being organic.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29- I'd never go back.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32- For me, it's more interesting...

0:06:33 > 0:06:36- ..and it makes it easier...

0:06:37 > 0:06:41- ..to look after wildlife - and the landscape.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53- Is it Cader or Cadair Idris?

0:06:53 > 0:06:57- This has been discussed - in the press this week.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00- Which one is correct?

0:07:01 > 0:07:03- I hope to find out the answer...

0:07:03 > 0:07:07- ..as well as how to balance - conservation and tourism...

0:07:07 > 0:07:11- ..on one of Meirionnydd's - most popular mountains.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21- Paul Williams has been a senior - site manager for 16 years...

0:07:22 > 0:07:25- ..first with - the Countryside Council for Wales...

0:07:25 > 0:07:28- ..then Natural Resources Wales.

0:07:28 > 0:07:32- As part of his work, he's been - coordinating restoration plans...

0:07:32 > 0:07:36- ..to improve the environment - and attract more visitors.

0:07:36 > 0:07:41- Place names are complicated, - no matter where you are.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44- I think Cader and Cadair - are both correct.

0:07:44 > 0:07:50- As a national body, we can only take - the best advice available.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54- According to many sources...

0:07:55 > 0:07:59- ..Cadair - would be the standard orthography.

0:07:59 > 0:08:03- That doesn't stop anyone - from pronouncing it as Cader...

0:08:03 > 0:08:05- ..or writing it as Cader.

0:08:05 > 0:08:09- As I'm from northern Meirionnydd, - I say Cadar.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- We've chosen the standard form...

0:08:14 > 0:08:16- ..Cadair Idris.

0:08:16 > 0:08:20- That's how it has been with us - for decades.

0:08:20 > 0:08:23- We haven't changed the spelling.

0:08:23 > 0:08:26- It's one - of the most popular mountains...

0:08:26 > 0:08:29- ..in the south of the Park - certainly.

0:08:30 > 0:08:32- Yes, definitely.

0:08:32 > 0:08:36- It's what's known as a honeypot.

0:08:36 > 0:08:40- People like coming here - to go for the summit.

0:08:41 > 0:08:45- A large part of the mountain...

0:08:45 > 0:08:48- ..has been a nature reserve - since the '50s.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52- Fifty thousand people - walk this path every year.

0:08:52 > 0:08:56- I know not all of them are here - to see the nature reserve.

0:08:57 > 0:09:01- They're here because Cadair Idris - is an iconic mountain.

0:09:01 > 0:09:03- A lot of them go for the summit.

0:09:03 > 0:09:08- Some go to Llyn Cau, - which is beautiful.

0:09:09 > 0:09:14- My work in this centre, to a degree, - is to entice them.

0:09:14 > 0:09:16- They're a captive audience.

0:09:17 > 0:09:22- If some of them can go - from the centre to the mountain...

0:09:22 > 0:09:27- ..having learned a little - about why the mountain is special...

0:09:27 > 0:09:28- ..it's great.

0:09:29 > 0:09:33- Is the land used - for any agricultural purpose?

0:09:33 > 0:09:34- Yes.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39- The valley or most of this side - of the mountain...

0:09:39 > 0:09:41- ..is grazed by a neighbour.

0:09:41 > 0:09:45- His family grazed it before him.

0:09:45 > 0:09:49- The cooperation - between us and the grazer is vital.

0:09:54 > 0:09:56- As a foundation - to the nature reserve...

0:09:57 > 0:10:00- ..an interpretation centre - has been built.

0:10:00 > 0:10:03- One of the main attractions - is a CCTV camera...

0:10:03 > 0:10:06- ..to watch the bats in the roof.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10- It isn't a big population - but it's increasing and developing.

0:10:12 > 0:10:17- The lesser horseshoe bat - is rare in Britain...

0:10:17 > 0:10:20- ..but north-west Wales - is a stronghold.

0:10:21 > 0:10:24- They're starting to come back now.

0:10:25 > 0:10:30- They hibernate in other places - like cowsheds and local quarries.

0:10:31 > 0:10:33- They return in the spring.

0:10:33 > 0:10:37- The females - come here to rear their young.

0:10:37 > 0:10:42- For many of us, they're creatures - that fly above us at night.

0:10:42 > 0:10:43- We don't know much about them.

0:10:43 > 0:10:46- We don't know much about them.- - That's what's good about here.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49- We can show that we can live - with them in the building.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52- No-one lives here - but we use it from day to day.

0:10:53 > 0:10:54- There's a cafe here too.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57- There's no need - to be scared of them.

0:10:57 > 0:10:58- We can live alongside them.

0:10:58 > 0:10:59- We can live alongside them.- - That's a great message.

0:11:10 > 0:11:16- People forget that maintaining paths - requires constant work.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18- It does.

0:11:18 > 0:11:21- There are miles of paths - on the mountain.

0:11:22 > 0:11:27- Unfortunately, it's expensive, - so we can't do it all overnight.

0:11:28 > 0:11:30- It's slow work.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- Many of them are farmers' sons, - I take it.

0:11:33 > 0:11:34- Yes.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38- Some of them - have worked on the paths...

0:11:38 > 0:11:41- ..for the National Park...

0:11:41 > 0:11:44- ..and the Upland Paths - Partnership...

0:11:44 > 0:11:48- ..which is now defunct.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52- It creates reliable jobs - in rural areas...

0:11:53 > 0:11:54- ..just that it requires funding.

0:11:54 > 0:11:55- ..just that it requires funding.- - Yes.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58- The National Park Authority...

0:11:58 > 0:12:03- ..has been successful last year - and this year in attracting funding.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06- We contribute towards it too.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09- However, - I have to strike a balance...

0:12:09 > 0:12:13- ..between spending - on access or leisure projects...

0:12:13 > 0:12:16- ..and spending - on conservation projects.

0:12:16 > 0:12:22- More of my money goes on - maintaining boundaries and so on.

0:12:22 > 0:12:28- That also creates jobs for - farmers' sons and local contractors.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32- Let's go a little higher - while our legs are still OK.

0:12:32 > 0:12:33- We'll go slowly!

0:12:33 > 0:12:35- We'll go slowly!- - Yes, slowly does it!

0:12:35 > 0:12:37- I'm 57, remember!

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0:12:54 > 0:12:57- How do you think a pig like this...

0:12:57 > 0:13:00- ..is turned into tasty sausages - like this?

0:13:00 > 0:13:05- That's what I want to find out today - on Felin y Glyn Farm near Pontyates.

0:13:10 > 0:13:15- Illtud Dunsford hails from Cardiff - but spent much of his childhood...

0:13:15 > 0:13:19- ..here on the family farm - looking after the animals.

0:13:19 > 0:13:23- After working - in the film industry...

0:13:23 > 0:13:26- ..he decided - to become a food producer.

0:13:26 > 0:13:29- My grandfather and uncle - reared pigs in the 1980s.

0:13:30 > 0:13:34- We carried on the tradition, - rearing pigs for ourselves.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37- Initially, - I didn't think of it as a business.

0:13:37 > 0:13:39- It was just something we did.

0:13:40 > 0:13:42- Since we had so much meat...

0:13:42 > 0:13:46- ..at one time of the year - after slaughtering and curing...

0:13:46 > 0:13:47- ..I did some research.

0:13:47 > 0:13:52- I looked beyond making faggots, - black pudding, sausages and bacon...

0:13:52 > 0:13:56- ..and explored what was being - produced in Europe and America.

0:13:56 > 0:14:02- Gradually, we expanded the produce - we made for ourselves.

0:14:04 > 0:14:05- When the business began...

0:14:06 > 0:14:09- ..we looked at it from - the viewpoint of meat science...

0:14:09 > 0:14:12- ..and greatly expanded our range.

0:14:12 > 0:14:16- You've also remained faithful - to the Welsh pig.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18- The Welsh pig - was the obvious breed for us.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22- We have kept other breeds...

0:14:22 > 0:14:27- ..but the Welsh pig has evolved - to thrive in the Welsh landscape.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30- It makes sense - to keep our native pig.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- It's ideally suited to our produce.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37- How do you manage - to stay ahead in the game?

0:14:37 > 0:14:40- As a business, we diversified.

0:14:40 > 0:14:42- We added to the pig itself.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46- We wanted control - over the whole operation...

0:14:46 > 0:14:48- ..and where the product was sold.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51- That's still important to us.

0:14:51 > 0:14:54- We try to keep control - over our food chain.

0:15:02 > 0:15:05- The Charcutier company - makes 40 different products.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09- The many awards - they have received...

0:15:09 > 0:15:12- ..is testimony - to the high standard of the food.

0:15:13 > 0:15:15- When we started the business...

0:15:16 > 0:15:20- ..we received advice from an - experienced producer in this field.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23- According to his model...

0:15:23 > 0:15:27- ..if you consider that the price - for a good-sized pig...

0:15:28 > 0:15:31- ..is 150-200 - to a butcher or at market...

0:15:32 > 0:15:36- ..that pig should produce sausages - with a value of 400-500.

0:15:37 > 0:15:40- If you add - various pork products to that...

0:15:41 > 0:15:44- ..the pig could produce 700-900.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48- Once you start carrying out - specialized processing...

0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..it's possible to - making 1,500 or more from that pig.

0:15:53 > 0:15:56- Obviously there are costs, - so it's not pure profit.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59- If you think of products - that are cured...

0:15:59 > 0:16:03- ..that takes at least two weeks - and sometimes six months or more.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07- There's no cash flow...

0:16:07 > 0:16:11- ..and there's a lot of development - before you reach that point.

0:16:11 > 0:16:15- It's not simple, but there - are certainly possibilities.

0:16:22 > 0:16:26- The company has developed rapidly - since it was established in 2010.

0:16:26 > 0:16:30- After a spell producing his meats - at the Horeb food centre...

0:16:30 > 0:16:36- ..Illtud and his workers now work - in a new unit on the family farm.

0:16:36 > 0:16:41- We've been here just over a year. - We're still finding our feet.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44- It's always difficult - when you move to somewhere new.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47- Working in a converted building...

0:16:48 > 0:16:53- ..is very different to working in - a new building with plenty of space.

0:16:53 > 0:16:57- There's always something - that isn't in the right place.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00- We also have one eye on the future.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03- We look to see - where we could face problems...

0:17:04 > 0:17:06- ..and where we should - expand and invest.

0:17:06 > 0:17:10- How much has the business profited - from creating this unit?

0:17:11 > 0:17:15- I think business has doubled - in the last year to 18 months.

0:17:15 > 0:17:19- The business could be - ten times the size it is now...

0:17:19 > 0:17:21- ..just operating from these units.

0:17:22 > 0:17:24- There are many possibilities...

0:17:24 > 0:17:28- ..but because we are producing - high-quality produce...

0:17:28 > 0:17:32- ..there is a limit - to the number of customers...

0:17:32 > 0:17:35- ..willing to pay a premium - for the products.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37- We know our place in the market.

0:17:38 > 0:17:41- What would your advice be - to someone who's keen...

0:17:41 > 0:17:45- ..on starting to produce - their own specialized produce?

0:17:45 > 0:17:49- It's not easy. If it was easy, - everyone would be doing it.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52- There are great possibilities - out there.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54- There is a real interest in food.

0:17:55 > 0:18:00- We call people who believe - in real food 'the Tribe'.

0:18:00 > 0:18:02- Once they eat your food...

0:18:02 > 0:18:05- ..and hear its story, - understand its purpose...

0:18:06 > 0:18:09- ..they will spread - the word about your produce.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11- That's very important.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14- The hours are long...

0:18:14 > 0:18:18- ..but it's vital to remember - we're working toward something.

0:18:19 > 0:18:23- When we reach that point, - we'll know that we've succeeded.

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- We're still a young business.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- We're still growing. - We need more staff.

0:18:30 > 0:18:36- We have a long way to go - until we're completely successful.

0:18:45 > 0:18:48- With a few days to go - before the Assembly election...

0:18:48 > 0:18:52- ..here's a summary - of what the parties are pledging...

0:18:52 > 0:18:55- ..in terms of agriculture - and the countryside.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59- Let's start with the Green Party.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04- Their emphasis is on the animal - - both tame and wild.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07- They want to reintroduce - vaccinations for badgers...

0:19:07 > 0:19:10- ..and have CCTV in all abattoirs.

0:19:10 > 0:19:14- They also want stricter regulations - on transporting livestock...

0:19:14 > 0:19:16- ..and a ban on live exports.

0:19:16 > 0:19:18- What about the Liberal Democrats?

0:19:18 > 0:19:21- They have three main promises.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25- An annual fund of 20 million - for hill farmers...

0:19:25 > 0:19:28- ..to address the issues - of farming challenging land.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32- There would be grants - to aid farmers to diversify...

0:19:32 > 0:19:36- ..reduce the amount of carbon - released into the environment...

0:19:36 > 0:19:38- ..and to be more competitive.

0:19:38 > 0:19:44- They would also promote share - farming and succession planning.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48- If you decide - to support the Conservatives...

0:19:48 > 0:19:50- ..what is in their manifesto?

0:19:51 > 0:19:54- They would appoint - a government minister...

0:19:54 > 0:19:58- ..with specific responsibility - for Mid and West Wales...

0:19:58 > 0:20:00- ..to promote rural communities.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- They would also consider rural areas - in all policy areas...

0:20:04 > 0:20:07- ..giving full support to - the dairy and red meat industries.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12- They would work with the Westminster - government to review the CAP.

0:20:12 > 0:20:16- They would also cut taxes - and unnecessary red tape...

0:20:16 > 0:20:20- ..and they would help rural - communities to manage local assets.

0:20:20 > 0:20:24- They would also maintain and improve - high welfare standards...

0:20:24 > 0:20:26- ..for animals in Wales.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31- What does Plaid Cymru have to offer?

0:20:32 > 0:20:35- They suggest a package of measures - to eradicate TB...

0:20:36 > 0:20:38- ..and to keep TB-free zones - disease free.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41- They would work with farmers...

0:20:41 > 0:20:46- .to see if recording and reporting - sheep movements through EID...

0:20:46 > 0:20:47- ..is appropriate.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50- They also refer - to Working Smarter...

0:20:50 > 0:20:54- ..including reducing red tape - and unnecessary paperwork.

0:20:55 > 0:20:57- They refer to the future - of agriculture...

0:20:57 > 0:21:00- ..through mention of education, - access, renting...

0:21:00 > 0:21:02- ..share farming and succession.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06- They also recognize the need - to work with the YFC.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09- They commit to setting up - a veterinary school in Wales.

0:21:09 > 0:21:13- There is a section about farming - and the food chain...

0:21:13 > 0:21:16- ..including the need - to reduce food waste.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19- They also mention international - climate change targets.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25- The latest addition - to the Assembly election is UKIP.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27- What do they have to offer?

0:21:27 > 0:21:31- They believe money is wasted on - the administration of subsidies...

0:21:32 > 0:21:35- ..and that the UK goes overboard - with EU regulations.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37- Central to their manifesto...

0:21:37 > 0:21:40- ..is the appointment - of local wildlife managers...

0:21:41 > 0:21:44- ..who would have the right - to operate according to local needs.

0:21:44 > 0:21:48- They would be responsible - for reducing TB, for example.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52- UKIP also note the need to - reconsider the policy on GM crops.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- They would also offer - mobile abattoirs...

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- ..to improve animal welfare - and reduce food miles.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01- Their manifesto offers - a package of support for farmers...

0:22:02 > 0:22:06- ..as well as control over people's - rights to access the countryside.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09- They emphasize the need - to make farming profitable...

0:22:09 > 0:22:11- ..and reduce red tape.

0:22:12 > 0:22:16- Finally, what are the main points - in the Labour Party's manifesto?

0:22:16 > 0:22:19- They have been in power - over the last five years.

0:22:20 > 0:22:24- Their objectives are closely linked - to their Rural Development Plan...

0:22:24 > 0:22:26- ..which is already in action.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29- They emphasize the need - to create employment...

0:22:29 > 0:22:31- ..and fair living standards.

0:22:31 > 0:22:34- They also promise good public - services for local communities.

0:22:35 > 0:22:38- The long-term aim is to create - a profitable food sector...

0:22:38 > 0:22:42- ..which respects animal welfare - and is managed professionally.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- There is a specific reference - to farm workers' pay...

0:22:45 > 0:22:49- ..and a reference - to managing natural resources...

0:22:49 > 0:22:52- ..to respond - to climate change targets.

0:22:57 > 0:22:58- That's all for this week.

0:22:59 > 0:23:03- In this lovely setting of Tal-y-llyn - Lake at the foot of Cadair Idris...

0:23:03 > 0:23:05- ..I wish you a happy holiday...

0:23:05 > 0:23:09- ..whether you're relaxing, - looking after the tourists...

0:23:09 > 0:23:12- ..or like most farmers, - carrying on as usual.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14- Thank you for your company. Goodbye.

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