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0:00:18 > 0:00:21- Hello and a warm welcome to Ffermio.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25- It's Easter which means - the holiday season has started.
0:00:25 > 0:00:28- This week, - I visit a family of farmers...
0:00:28 > 0:00:31- ..who hope - to take advantage of this...
0:00:31 > 0:00:34- ..here in the seaside town - of Pwllheli.
0:00:34 > 0:00:38- Coming up, with - the vaccination programme on hold...
0:00:38 > 0:00:43- ..what's currently being done - to tackle TB in cattle?
0:00:43 > 0:00:46- We talk to the Chief - Veterinary Officer for Wales...
0:00:46 > 0:00:50- ..and hear about the plans of Welsh - councils to combat the disease.
0:00:51 > 0:00:56- But first, thousands of farmers - recently gathered in London...
0:00:56 > 0:00:58- ..to voice their concerns...
0:00:58 > 0:01:01- ..about the agriculture industry - and its future.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04- With low prices - across the industry...
0:01:05 > 0:01:10- ..the group Farmers for Action - has organised a march to London.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15- A large representation - from the farming industry...
0:01:15 > 0:01:20- ..travelled to London to - present a letter to David Cameron...
0:01:20 > 0:01:23- ..and to draw attention - to the problems that farmers face.
0:01:24 > 0:01:25- One of the chief organisers...
0:01:26 > 0:01:29- ..is former Farmer of the Year - Cheryl Thomas.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- We had to come here today - to get the ball rolling.
0:01:33 > 0:01:38- We need to go into schools - and educate children...
0:01:39 > 0:01:41- ..about where milk comes from...
0:01:41 > 0:01:46- ..and how their Sunday roast beef - arrive on their plates.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50- A lot of other initiatives - will be taking place...
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- ..and so my plea is - to those who haven't come today...
0:01:54 > 0:01:55- ..to join us next time.
0:01:55 > 0:01:59- If we want to change things, - it's up to us to join forces.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01- What do you hope will happen next?
0:02:01 > 0:02:03- What do you hope will happen next?- - Something has to change.
0:02:03 > 0:02:07- We need better prices - for our produce.
0:02:08 > 0:02:13- Is enough being done to market milk - and farm produce at the moment?
0:02:13 > 0:02:15- Not half enough.
0:02:15 > 0:02:20- The dentist tells your children - to drink water and milk.
0:02:20 > 0:02:25- That's an opportunity - for us as an union to market it.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28- However, it's not - our responsibility as farmers.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31- That's why there's a levy.
0:02:31 > 0:02:35- We pay people to do that work for us - but they're not doing it.
0:02:35 > 0:02:39- Too much time has passed and - far too much damage has been done.
0:02:39 > 0:02:44- People have left the industry - and we've had to borrow more money.
0:02:45 > 0:02:47- This has been going on - for far too long.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52- Now you can celebrate the industry - and shout about it!
0:02:57 > 0:03:00- The march has been organised by the - Chairman of Farmers for Action...
0:03:01 > 0:03:05- ..David Handley and his wife Marilyn - - dairy farmers from Monmouthshire.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10- We've got a letter for David Cameron - from the British farming industry.
0:03:10 > 0:03:14- It says there are two things - which have got to be answered.
0:03:14 > 0:03:17- Number one, are we having - to stay in a free market...
0:03:17 > 0:03:21- ..and watch the weakest farmer - continually go to the wall?
0:03:21 > 0:03:25- Or is he prepared for British - farmers to feed the population...
0:03:25 > 0:03:29- ..and play on the global stage with - exports of our prime British foods?
0:03:29 > 0:03:32- If so, he has got to address - a number of issues.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- In addition to the protest...
0:03:35 > 0:03:39- ..today gives farmers a chance - to market their produce...
0:03:39 > 0:03:41- ..and to meet - their target audience.
0:03:41 > 0:03:46- Gaenor Howells lives in London - and works in marketing.
0:03:47 > 0:03:52- How important is it that - Welsh produce is promoted in London?
0:03:52 > 0:03:57- If we want to compete on a global - stage, it's vitally important.
0:03:57 > 0:04:03- However, it's just as important that - we, as Welsh residents in London...
0:04:03 > 0:04:05- ..go out and buy the produce.
0:04:06 > 0:04:07- The reason for that...
0:04:07 > 0:04:11- ..is so that - shop and supermarket buyers...
0:04:12 > 0:04:16- ..realise that there's a demand - for the produce.
0:04:16 > 0:04:19- How can we appeal - to those customers?
0:04:19 > 0:04:22- Firstly, - through attractive branding.
0:04:22 > 0:04:24- We need to speak to the customer...
0:04:25 > 0:04:28- ..and to be clear about - what's different about the produce.
0:04:29 > 0:04:33- Shops and supermarkets - are searching for excellence.
0:04:33 > 0:04:37- We have that in Wales - as we've seen in today's protest.
0:04:37 > 0:04:42- We have excellence - in our produce and farms.
0:04:42 > 0:04:47- However, there are farms - and producers across the world...
0:04:47 > 0:04:49- ..who are also offering excellence.
0:04:50 > 0:04:56- We need to reverse - the supply chain...
0:04:56 > 0:05:01- ..so that our produce is seen - by people around the world.
0:05:02 > 0:05:06- We need to bring the issues - facing the farming industry...
0:05:07 > 0:05:10- ..to the top - of the political agenda.
0:05:10 > 0:05:14- The only way to do that - is to organize marches like today.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17- It's an effective way - to raise awareness...
0:05:17 > 0:05:22- ..and attract media attention.
0:05:22 > 0:05:24- It forces politicians like myself...
0:05:24 > 0:05:27- ..to respond - and to think about the issues.
0:05:27 > 0:05:31- That's the benefit - of an event like today.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36- It draws attention to the problems - facing the industry...
0:05:36 > 0:05:41- ..such as TB, milk prices - and the issues with payments.
0:05:42 > 0:05:48- I hope the Prime Minister - and the UK Government take notice.
0:05:48 > 0:05:54- These are problems - facing the whole of Europe.
0:05:54 > 0:05:58- It's important that farmers voice - their concerns in Britain too.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02- After travelling - all the way to London...
0:06:03 > 0:06:05- ..what was the farmers' reaction - to the march?
0:06:05 > 0:06:07- There's a good turnout here.
0:06:07 > 0:06:09- We're making a lot of noise...
0:06:09 > 0:06:12- ..to draw attention - to the problems in farming.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14- I hope they take notice.
0:06:15 > 0:06:16- How important is today?
0:06:17 > 0:06:21- It's extremely important - for the generations to come...
0:06:21 > 0:06:27- ..and so that people are made aware - of what's going on in the industry.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- We need to make sure - there is a future.
0:06:30 > 0:06:33- My two sons - want to return home to farm.
0:06:33 > 0:06:38- I hope they can do that and - that they have a prosperous future.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42- Thousands of people - are here to support the industry.
0:06:42 > 0:06:43- With all the noise...
0:06:43 > 0:06:47- ..and everything that David - and Marilyn Handley have done...
0:06:47 > 0:06:49- ..I hope some good will come of it.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52- What difference - do you think it will make?
0:06:52 > 0:06:55- I don't know. - The government has to listen to us.
0:06:56 > 0:07:02- There are problems with the prices - in every aspect of farming.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- Our industry has been educating - the consumer for a long time...
0:07:06 > 0:07:08- ..and will continue to do so.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- I don't believe - that's a politician's role in life.
0:07:11 > 0:07:13- There's a lot of other things - he can do.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17- He can feed all the armed services, - prisoners, everybody...
0:07:17 > 0:07:20- ..on British food, not import it - for the cheapest price.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- That would make a big difference - to British agriculture.
0:07:28 > 0:07:31- In May 2014...
0:07:31 > 0:07:35- ..I visited Bryn Rhydd farm - in Edern on the Lleyn Peninsula...
0:07:35 > 0:07:40- ..as they embarked on a new venture - producing ice cream.
0:07:41 > 0:07:46- Two years later, the business has - developed into the company, Glasu.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54- Dylan and Annwen Jones - and their son Dyfed farm here.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- They milk 200 Holstein Friesian - and Brown Swiss cattle.
0:07:59 > 0:08:02- The business started - by chance four years ago...
0:08:02 > 0:08:06- ..when they made ice cream for the - wedding of their daughter, Elliw.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10- After it was well-received - by the guests...
0:08:10 > 0:08:13- ..they started their business, - Glasu.
0:08:14 > 0:08:17- After travelling back and forth - to Llangefni for two years...
0:08:17 > 0:08:21- ..to produce the ice cream - at the Food Technology Centre...
0:08:21 > 0:08:24- ..they've now set up a unit - on the farmyard.
0:08:25 > 0:08:27- We held discussions...
0:08:27 > 0:08:31- ..and once the Environmental Health - and everyone was happy...
0:08:31 > 0:08:34- ..we bought a Portakabin - and adapted it...
0:08:34 > 0:08:38- ..so we could produce - our ice cream on the farm.
0:08:38 > 0:08:43- You now produce and sell - lots of ice cream!
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- Yes, - we're up to two days a week now.
0:08:46 > 0:08:49- It's a job to find time - to do everything.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52- Time is scarce.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- This is on top of everyday farming.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59- Yes. We still milk every day.
0:08:59 > 0:09:04- It's a very different venture - but it's enjoyable.
0:09:05 > 0:09:07- Your son, Dyfed, - helps out on the farm.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- Yes. It would be impossible - without Dyfed.
0:09:11 > 0:09:16- He does the feeding in the winter - while we produce the ice cream.
0:09:16 > 0:09:19- When you're in the unit, - what do you do?
0:09:19 > 0:09:23- The pasteurizing process - has been done the day before...
0:09:23 > 0:09:29- ..so that the base mix - has had time to age, as they say.
0:09:29 > 0:09:35- We then remove it from that and put - it in the tank to cool overnight.
0:09:35 > 0:09:40- We then measure six litres - to make Napolis or small pots.
0:09:41 > 0:09:45- The process takes twelve minutes...
0:09:45 > 0:09:48- ..to turn it from milk to ice cream.
0:09:49 > 0:09:53- It takes a bit of time.
0:09:53 > 0:09:56- You make it sound very easy!
0:09:56 > 0:09:59- It is - once you know what you're doing.
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- You can do it quicker in time.
0:10:05 > 0:10:11- Filling the small pots is the most - time-consuming part of the process.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15- You use your own Bryn Rhydd milk - in the ice cream.
0:10:16 > 0:10:18- Yes, every drop.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- How much ice cream do you produce?
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- We use up to 150 litres of milk - every week.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30- We double that - over the summer months.
0:10:32 > 0:10:35- We produce as much as we can - in the unit...
0:10:35 > 0:10:39- ..but it's getting to be quite small - already!
0:10:39 > 0:10:41- But it's a nice problem.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- This is a family business.
0:10:43 > 0:10:44- Yes.
0:10:44 > 0:10:48- My daughter started it all - at her wedding.
0:10:49 > 0:10:53- We've had help from my son-in-law, - Myrddin.
0:10:54 > 0:10:55- Then there's Dyfed.
0:10:55 > 0:10:57- Then there's Dyfed.- - He does all the legwork.
0:10:57 > 0:11:02- We manage somehow - but there's never enough time!
0:11:02 > 0:11:05- It must be nice that - you're doing it all yourselves...
0:11:05 > 0:11:08- ..and that you don't see - all your milk going away.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11- With milk prices - as they are today...
0:11:11 > 0:11:16- ..it's great that we can turn it - into something better than milk.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- Yes. However, we started it - when milk prices were OK.
0:11:22 > 0:11:24- It's a bonus...
0:11:24 > 0:11:27- ..but we get more enjoyment from it.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32- You're making the best - of a difficult situation.
0:11:33 > 0:11:38- Yes, but one day, we'd like - to see 500 litres of milk...
0:11:38 > 0:11:40- ..being used to produce ice cream.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- At that point, we might consider - reducing the herd...
0:11:46 > 0:11:49- ..and perhaps taking a holiday!
0:11:49 > 0:11:53- It would be great if we could - employ someone in the future.
0:11:53 > 0:11:55- It must be wonderful to know...
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- ..you're making the best - of the produce you have here.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- Yes, it gives me great pleasure.
0:12:03 > 0:12:08- When I send ice cream to Aberdaron - and see a row of children...
0:12:08 > 0:12:11- ..sitting on the bridge - eating it and enjoying it...
0:12:12 > 0:12:13- ..it's a wonderful feeling.
0:12:22 > 0:12:27- The Glasu business has clearly - developed in terms of production...
0:12:27 > 0:12:28- ..on the farm.
0:12:29 > 0:12:30- But there's more to the story.
0:12:31 > 0:12:35- We'll find out how they've developed - the marketing side after the break.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37- I'll see you shortly.
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0:12:48 > 0:12:50- Welcome back to Ffermio.
0:12:50 > 0:12:54- Before the break, we were - on Bryn Rhydd farm in Edern...
0:12:54 > 0:12:57- ..watching them - make their ice cream, Glasu.
0:12:57 > 0:13:01- The business has expanded greatly - in the last two years.
0:13:01 > 0:13:02- A few days ago...
0:13:03 > 0:13:07- ..they opened their first - ice cream parlour here in Pwllheli.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16- The shop is in the centre of town.
0:13:16 > 0:13:22- This was the perfect site for - the family to expand their business.
0:13:22 > 0:13:26- Elliw Davies, the daughter - of Dylan and Annwen, is in charge.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33- Things are changing very quickly.
0:13:33 > 0:13:37- You make the ice cream - on the farm back in Edern...
0:13:37 > 0:13:39- ..and now you've opened this shop.
0:13:39 > 0:13:43- The chance - suddenly cropped up right here.
0:13:44 > 0:13:48- It was too good a chance to miss.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51- We decided to go for it.
0:13:51 > 0:13:57- Mam and Dad insisted that Myrddin - and I were part of the venture.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01- What kind of reaction - have you had so far?
0:14:01 > 0:14:04- We've only been open for a few days.
0:14:04 > 0:14:06- People have been very kind so far...
0:14:07 > 0:14:09- ..coming in, wishing us well...
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- ..and saying how nice it is - to see local people going for it.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18- Tourists also like the story, - and they think it's great...
0:14:18 > 0:14:23- ..that the milk and ice cream - are produced seven miles away.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- They feel that they're getting - something truly local.
0:14:27 > 0:14:30- I think that I'm very fortunate...
0:14:30 > 0:14:33- ..that my parents - were eager to develop.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37- Mam was determined to have - as natural a recipe as possible.
0:14:38 > 0:14:42- One that didn't contain eggs, - because some are allergic to eggs.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45- She also wanted a home-made element.
0:14:45 > 0:14:50- Proper ingredients - milk, cream - and flavours as natural as possible.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53- What ice creams do you offer here?
0:14:53 > 0:14:54- All sorts.
0:14:55 > 0:14:57- The main hope with the shop...
0:14:57 > 0:15:01- ..given that the production unit - is at home...
0:15:01 > 0:15:07- ..is that Mam has time to develop - all kinds of different ice creams.
0:15:07 > 0:15:12- Who knows what we can offer - within a few months' time?
0:15:12 > 0:15:14- As for the future...
0:15:15 > 0:15:17- ..we aim to develop the menu...
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- ..and the products - we have available.
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- I'd like to work with Mam - to produce ice cream flavours...
0:15:24 > 0:15:27- ..that the people of Pwllheli - may not have seen before.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- At the end of the day, - everyone likes ice cream.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46- Even though 95% of Welsh herds - are free of TB...
0:15:46 > 0:15:50- ..the disease is still - in the headlines regularly.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54- Alun finds out - what's happening at the moment.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58- We all know that - the badger vaccination project...
0:15:59 > 0:16:02- ..has been suspended for a year - in the pilot area...
0:16:02 > 0:16:06- ..because of a worldwide shortage - of the BCG vaccine.
0:16:06 > 0:16:11- But attempts to eradicate TB - from the Welsh herd continue...
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- ..with several developments afoot.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- One of the latest Welsh Government - schemes is the TB Dashboard.
0:16:21 > 0:16:25- It gives a full picture of - the disease situation across Wales.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28- It's an important resource - to fight TB...
0:16:28 > 0:16:32- ..says Chief Veterinary Officer - Christianne Glossop.
0:16:32 > 0:16:34- I was really keen to make sure...
0:16:34 > 0:16:39- ..that everybody understood - or understands the TB picture.
0:16:39 > 0:16:42- That we can look - at a range of measures...
0:16:42 > 0:16:46- ..not just the number - of new TB breakdowns.
0:16:46 > 0:16:51- 11,500 herds of cattle in Wales - don't have a TB breakdown right now.
0:16:51 > 0:16:55- I think it's important - for people to understand that.
0:16:55 > 0:17:00- We look at other elements of the TB - stats within the Dashboard as well.
0:17:00 > 0:17:03- Also, importantly, - a new element of the Dashboard...
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- ..is the recurrence rate.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08- That looks - at the history of TB breakdowns...
0:17:08 > 0:17:12- ..to see how likely it is that - a herd that's had a TB breakdown...
0:17:13 > 0:17:16- ..will go down with TB again - within the next two years.
0:17:16 > 0:17:20- If we're winning, the recurrence - rate will start to go down.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- The process of eradicating TB - from Welsh herds...
0:17:26 > 0:17:30- ..puts a greater emphasis - on the vet-farmer relationship...
0:17:30 > 0:17:32- ..through the Cymorth TB programme.
0:17:33 > 0:17:37- One major contributor to the scheme - is Swansea vet Ifan Lloyd.
0:17:39 > 0:17:42- When we go to a farm, - the first thing we do...
0:17:42 > 0:17:45- ..is discuss the general situation - with the farmer.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49- We make sure they understand - what's happening, and why.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52- Why any particular decisions - have been made...
0:17:53 > 0:17:55- ..and their effects on the farm.
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- We then walk around the farm...
0:18:00 > 0:18:03- ..to look for places - that could pose a risk.
0:18:04 > 0:18:08- For example, - we walk the farm's boundaries.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- Are they bordered by woodland?
0:18:11 > 0:18:14- That leads us on to badgers.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16- We then check the badger situation.
0:18:17 > 0:18:19- Are there setts on the farm?
0:18:19 > 0:18:20- Are they fenced off?
0:18:21 > 0:18:24- Another big factor here - is that the farmer gets a chance...
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- ..to discuss the situation - with someone he trusts.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- I know some people don't agree - with the policy we have in Wales...
0:18:32 > 0:18:36- ..but it's important to work - within the policy on farms...
0:18:36 > 0:18:40- ..and identify what can be done - to help to reduce the risks...
0:18:40 > 0:18:45- ..and to protect valuable stock - that has been bred for generations.
0:18:46 > 0:18:47- As well as being a vet...
0:18:48 > 0:18:52- ..Rhys Beynon-Thomas must also - face the challenges of TB...
0:18:52 > 0:18:54- ..at home on the farm.
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- I can see both sides.
0:18:56 > 0:19:00- I can identify totally with farmers - when cattle test positive for TB.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02- I know what it's like at home.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06- Every animal - means something to every farmer.
0:19:06 > 0:19:10- It's a big loss, - emotionally as well as economically.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13- We lost 30 cattle to TB - about three weeks ago.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18- As for Cymorth TB, I'm currently - involved with the scheme...
0:19:18 > 0:19:24- ..doing an online training course - to get the necessary qualifications.
0:19:24 > 0:19:27- It enables local vets - around the country...
0:19:27 > 0:19:32- ..vets who have a relationship - with farmers in their areas...
0:19:32 > 0:19:36- ..to discuss TB at herd level - and maybe at holding level...
0:19:36 > 0:19:39- ..to see whether we can - make some difference.
0:19:39 > 0:19:45- The big frustration from my point - of view is that we can't suggest...
0:19:45 > 0:19:48- ..how we'd like the disease - to be treated.
0:19:48 > 0:19:52- We can't suggest - that people deal with wildlife...
0:19:52 > 0:19:54- ..because it's illegal...
0:19:54 > 0:19:57- ..despite our wildlife - harbouring TB.
0:19:58 > 0:20:00- Here, that's mainly badgers.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- The latest statistics show...
0:20:05 > 0:20:07- ..an increase of 27% - in cases of TB.
0:20:08 > 0:20:11- How does the Chief Veterinary - Officer explain that?
0:20:12 > 0:20:17- Whilst we have seen a sustained - reduction in new breakdowns...
0:20:17 > 0:20:21- ..through the duration of our - annual testing regime since 2009...
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- ..we have, - in the last 12 months or so...
0:20:24 > 0:20:28- ..seen an increase in the number - of cattle slaughtered.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32- We're testing herds harder - and using more sensitive testing.
0:20:33 > 0:20:34- The aim is to make sure...
0:20:35 > 0:20:39- ..that if there's any infection - within that herd of cattle...
0:20:39 > 0:20:41- ..we find it as quickly as possible.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44- When you increase - the sensitivity of a test...
0:20:44 > 0:20:48- ..you will find more infected - animals at an earlier stage.
0:20:48 > 0:20:52- The long-term objective - is TB eradication, of course.
0:20:52 > 0:20:55- If we are to reach that objective, - we've got to make sure...
0:20:56 > 0:21:00- ..that we don't leave any infection - behind within those herds of cattle.
0:21:01 > 0:21:05- While the Welsh Government still - seeks ways to prevent bovine TB...
0:21:06 > 0:21:10- ..Ceredigion, Pembrokeshire - and Carmarthenshire councils...
0:21:10 > 0:21:14- ..have put pressure on them - to cull badgers in target areas.
0:21:14 > 0:21:19- Indeed, the motion has been passed - in Ceredigion and Carmarthenshire.
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- The leader of Carmarthenshire...
0:21:23 > 0:21:26- ..invited - Ceredigion and Pembrokeshire...
0:21:26 > 0:21:31- ..to a meeting in Carmarthen to - discuss the problems in agriculture.
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- One of the quickest things - we thought we could do...
0:21:35 > 0:21:39- ..would be to propose a motion - before all three councils...
0:21:39 > 0:21:44- ..to target badger culling in areas - where we know TB problems exist.
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- What was the vote like?
0:21:47 > 0:21:51- I was surprised - to have such a good debate.
0:21:51 > 0:21:55- 26 voted in favour, one against - and five abstained.
0:21:55 > 0:21:58- I think that shows - the strength of feeling.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02- Those I've spoken to who were - against it were opposed to a cull.
0:22:03 > 0:22:07- But the truth is, I told them, - that there is a culling scheme now.
0:22:07 > 0:22:09- It has been happening.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12- 80,000 head of cattle - slaughtered over ten years.
0:22:12 > 0:22:16- Slaughtering cattle is pointless - if you don't deal...
0:22:16 > 0:22:21- ..with one of the main causes - for the transmission of TB.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- Has the Welsh Government reacted?
0:22:24 > 0:22:26- Not that I'm aware.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28- The letter hasn't been sent yet.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32- Carmarthenshire has debated - and passed the motion.
0:22:33 > 0:22:35- Pembrokeshire - has proposed the motion.
0:22:35 > 0:22:39- That must be accepted before - it's discussed and voted upon.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44- When the three counties - have discussed it and voted...
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- ..I would hope - we'll have unanimous support.
0:22:48 > 0:22:52- Then we can write a letter, - either together or separately.
0:22:52 > 0:22:56- After the election, - when the new minister is named...
0:22:56 > 0:22:59- ..or the present minister - carries on...
0:22:59 > 0:23:01- ..one of their first tasks...
0:23:01 > 0:23:05- ..will be dealing with those - three letters demanding action.
0:23:05 > 0:23:09- In order to collect data - about the spread of TB...
0:23:09 > 0:23:13- ..the Welsh Government - has appealed to the public...
0:23:13 > 0:23:16- ..to tell them about the location - of any dead badgers.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19- Contact them on this phone number.
0:23:26 > 0:23:28- That's all for this week.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30- Thank you for your company.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34- I'll see you - at the same time next week.
0:23:34 > 0:23:38- From the sunny Lleyn Peninsula, - goodbye.
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