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0:00:17 > 0:00:23- Welcome to Ffermio - and to Llanfachreth near Dolgellau.
0:00:23 > 0:00:28- I've come here to meet the shepherd - who will captain Wales...
0:00:28 > 0:00:31- ..in the International - Sheep Dog Trials next weekend.
0:00:32 > 0:00:33- Also on the programme...
0:00:34 > 0:00:38- ..Alun will find out why there's - more ewes' milk cheese being made.
0:00:39 > 0:00:44- And I'll be chatting with a farmer's - wife who's also a successful author.
0:00:45 > 0:00:50- Next weekend, people from Wales, - England, Scotland and Ireland...
0:00:50 > 0:00:54- ..will flock to Sandilands Farm - near Tywyn in Meirionnydd...
0:00:54 > 0:00:57- ..for the International - Sheep Dog Trials.
0:00:57 > 0:01:02- Fifteen dogs and their masters from - each country will be competing...
0:01:02 > 0:01:05- ..and Medwyn Evans - is the Wales team captain.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22- Medwyn is a shepherd - on the Nannau estate...
0:01:22 > 0:01:25- ..in Llanfachreth near Dolgellau.
0:01:25 > 0:01:30- He is originally from Porthmadog but - has been here for almost 40 years.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- The estate consists of 2,650 acres.
0:01:34 > 0:01:38- Medwyn is responsible for the 2,000 - sheep that graze these fields.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42- He has always had an interest - in sheepdogs...
0:01:42 > 0:01:47- ..and this year he will lead - the Wales sheepdog trials team.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50- Many congratulations, Medwyn.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- You are the Wales team captain.
0:01:53 > 0:01:55- You are the Wales team captain.- - Thank you.
0:01:55 > 0:01:58- How were you made captain?
0:01:58 > 0:02:00- I was fortunate enough...
0:02:00 > 0:02:04- ..to win first place - at the national championships.
0:02:05 > 0:02:09- Whoever wins the national - is made captain for that year.
0:02:09 > 0:02:14- Next weekend, teams from Wales, - Scotland, Ireland and England...
0:02:15 > 0:02:18- ..will compete against each other.
0:02:18 > 0:02:23- There are 15 in each team, but - does that mean 15 dogs or 15 people?
0:02:23 > 0:02:25- There are 15 dogs.
0:02:25 > 0:02:26- Which dogs are yours?
0:02:27 > 0:02:29- Mac and Meg.
0:02:30 > 0:02:32- Mac will be competing against Meg.
0:02:32 > 0:02:33- Mac will be competing against Meg.- - Yes.
0:02:33 > 0:02:34- Who is older, Meg or Mac?
0:02:34 > 0:02:35- Who is older, Meg or Mac?- - Meg.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39- Meg is five and a half, - Mac is three and a half.
0:02:40 > 0:02:41- Tell us about Meg.
0:02:42 > 0:02:44- She is home-bred.
0:02:44 > 0:02:47- Her parents were my own dogs.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53- I bought Mac when he was young, - about two years ago.
0:02:53 > 0:02:55- Where did he come from?
0:02:55 > 0:02:58- From a friend of mine, - Arfon Pugh in Harlech.
0:03:00 > 0:03:05- I happened to be judging a nursery - when I saw him run by Arfon.
0:03:05 > 0:03:08- I liked the look of him and he won.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12- Two or three months later, - I heard he was selling him.
0:03:12 > 0:03:15- I went over and bought him.
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- He's a lovely farmyard dog.
0:03:19 > 0:03:21- We shall see how it goes.
0:03:21 > 0:03:23- I am quite confident.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26- Wales have a good team.
0:03:27 > 0:03:31- Are you able to spot the potential - in a young dog?
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- By the time - they're six or seven months old...
0:03:35 > 0:03:40- ..you know that they have something - worth having.
0:03:40 > 0:03:42- Quite often, if I get them young...
0:03:42 > 0:03:46- ..I like for half my dogs - to be taught in Welsh.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- When you're gathering the sheep - on the mountain...
0:03:49 > 0:03:51- ..if you have the same - two commands...
0:03:52 > 0:03:55- ..it's difficult to send one off - without the other following.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59- If one command is in English and - the other in Welsh, it's far easier.
0:04:00 > 0:04:04- It just happens - that he's English and she's Welsh.
0:04:13 > 0:04:17- This is the third time that Medwyn - has captained the Wales team.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21- He led them in 1998 and in 2014.
0:04:56 > 0:04:59- Medwyn lives in a wonderful area.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03- The view from the sheep pen - is beautiful.
0:05:06 > 0:05:08- I can think of worse places to work.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10- I can think of worse places to work.- - I love it here.
0:05:11 > 0:05:13- It's quite a view.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- Yes, it's a shame - there's fog on Cader Idris today.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18- It's worth seeing - when the sun is out.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21- And the solitude.
0:05:21 > 0:05:26- Yes, visitors do come around - but I can't blame them.
0:05:27 > 0:05:29- How long have you been here?
0:05:30 > 0:05:31- Since 1978.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33- Almost 40 years!
0:05:33 > 0:05:34- I'm old, aren't I?
0:05:34 > 0:05:36- I'm old, aren't I?- - I'm not saying anything!
0:05:37 > 0:05:40- I've enjoyed every second here.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43- It would be difficult here - without dogs.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47- I wouldn't be here. - That's my delight.
0:05:48 > 0:05:51- I don't think of it as work, - it's a pleasure.
0:05:52 > 0:05:55- It's a way of life. - I'm used to having good dogs.
0:05:55 > 0:05:59- I get great pleasure - from working with them.
0:05:59 > 0:06:03- Teaching a dog in the little field - and seeing it develop.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05- Taking it up the mountain.
0:06:05 > 0:06:07- It makes a lot of mistakes - at first.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- Then, it starts to get it. That's - what gives me the greatest pleasure.
0:06:13 > 0:06:15- I like that better - than sheepdog trials.
0:06:15 > 0:06:18- I prefer training them - and seeing them develop.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22- When I have the dogs, - I will take them to sheepdog trials.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- I need four good dogs - for my work here.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- They're farm dogs - and sheepdog trial dogs.
0:06:30 > 0:06:34- I'm very happy. - I'm very, very happy here.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48- This year might be your year, - Medwyn.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51- You might lift the cup - on Sunday night.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53- I'd like to think that.
0:06:54 > 0:06:58- I don't expect to win - but I'll do my best.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59- Good luck to you.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01- Good luck to you.- - Thank you. I'll need it!
0:07:05 > 0:07:08- Good luck to Medwyn and the team.
0:07:08 > 0:07:12- Alun, Meinir and I will be at - the Trials in Tywyn next weekend...
0:07:12 > 0:07:15- ..making a special programme...
0:07:15 > 0:07:20- ..which will be shown on S4C - on Monday 19 September.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- An hour-long programme - from the International Trials.
0:07:24 > 0:07:28- After the break, Alun - takes a look at ewes' milk cheese...
0:07:28 > 0:07:32- ..and I chat to a successful author - from Mid Wales.
0:07:32 > 0:07:33- See you in a minute.
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0:07:45 > 0:07:47- Welcome back to Ffermio.
0:07:47 > 0:07:51- Some excellent cheeses - are being produced in Wales.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54- They're usually made - from cows' milk...
0:07:54 > 0:07:57- ..but goats' milk cheeses - are also popular.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- But the latest - is made from ewes' milk.
0:08:00 > 0:08:01- Alun has the story.
0:08:11 > 0:08:15- Here at Moelyci Farm - in Tregarth near Bangor...
0:08:15 > 0:08:20- ..Carrie Rimes is selling what is - a new kind of cheese to us in Wales.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22- Ewes' milk cheese.
0:08:22 > 0:08:26- She has been making it for a year, - and sales are going up and up.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37- Where did you get the idea - of producing ewes' milk cheese?
0:08:37 > 0:08:43- Well, that goes right back - to when I was a child on the farm.
0:08:45 > 0:08:50- I tried to make cheese - from cows' milk at the time.
0:08:50 > 0:08:56- But I had no experience, really, - and the cheese was quite horrendous!
0:08:57 > 0:09:00- But I could see - the magic in the process.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- I left my job - with the Countryside Council...
0:09:04 > 0:09:06- ..and I retrained.
0:09:07 > 0:09:11- I got the opportunity - to spend three years in France.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15- Eating ewes' milk cheese - is totally normal in France.
0:09:16 > 0:09:21- The balance between protein and fat - is perfect for making cheese.
0:09:21 > 0:09:27- I can imagine that it's hard - to get hold of sheep's milk.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29- Where do you get it at the moment?
0:09:29 > 0:09:34- I have to go all the way to Preston, - to the Forest of Bowland.
0:09:34 > 0:09:39- Currently, there's no-one - milking sheep in North Wales.
0:09:40 > 0:09:43- It starts with untreated milk.
0:09:44 > 0:09:46- I immediately add - the starter cultures.
0:09:47 > 0:09:51- That means that by the time - I get back to Llangefni...
0:09:51 > 0:09:53- ..the milk is just right...
0:09:53 > 0:09:57- ..to carry straight on - with the cheese-making process.
0:09:57 > 0:09:59- The rennet can go straight into it.
0:09:59 > 0:10:02- The rennet can go straight into it.- - Tell me about the brand.
0:10:02 > 0:10:06- You've created Cosyn Cymru, - and also Brefu Bach.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10- Brefu Bach is a soft cheese.
0:10:10 > 0:10:14- It's a bit like Camembert, - but it's not Camembert.
0:10:14 > 0:10:19- What are your hopes as regards - developing here at Moelyci?
0:10:20 > 0:10:21- Well...
0:10:22 > 0:10:27- ..the next step, and the most - important step, to be honest...
0:10:27 > 0:10:29- ..is to get my own dairy.
0:10:30 > 0:10:31- Wow!
0:10:31 > 0:10:36- Without my own dairy, - I can't really grow.
0:10:36 > 0:10:38- It's been great in Llangefni...
0:10:39 > 0:10:43- ..but a lot of other people - want to use the place as well.
0:10:44 > 0:10:47- If I want to develop - local milk here...
0:10:47 > 0:10:51- ..I have to be ready - to use the milk every day.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54- At the moment, I can't.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57- The next step - is to get a dairy here.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59- That's the next big step.
0:10:59 > 0:11:03- After that, I really need - to make a big effort...
0:11:03 > 0:11:06- ..to work in partnership - with local people...
0:11:08 > 0:11:12- ..to develop local milk.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19- Carwyn Adams also spotted - that same gap in the market.
0:11:19 > 0:11:24- Unlike Carrie, he already had - the facilities and the dairy.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28- But ewes' milk cheese - isn't like cows' milk cheese.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32- Ewes' milk cheese is a new product - at Caws Cenarth this year.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35- We produce soft, blue - and hard varieties.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40- We got lucky last year.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- We located a milk supply - very near to the factory.
0:11:45 > 0:11:49- It comes from five miles away, - just outside Crymych.
0:11:49 > 0:11:53- Nick and Wendy Holtham's sheep - are a little bit different.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57- Over the years, - they've kept a lot of Welsh sheep.
0:11:57 > 0:12:02- But they've bred them - to produce milk.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07- If we continue with this project, - I think they'll develop the ewes...
0:12:07 > 0:12:11- ..towards producing milk - rather than breeding lambs.
0:12:11 > 0:12:15- When we started - using ewes' milk to make cheese...
0:12:16 > 0:12:18- ..we had no previous experience.
0:12:18 > 0:12:20- It was different to cows' milk.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24- It had a bit more fat, for example.
0:12:24 > 0:12:26- It was also a bit more delicate.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30- We had to be more sympathetic - with the milk.
0:12:31 > 0:12:35- Because of the extra fat, - the salt had to be adjusted.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37- We have had some problems.
0:12:38 > 0:12:42- But producing ewes' milk cheese - is a learning process.
0:12:42 > 0:12:47- We use pasteurised ewes' milk.
0:12:47 > 0:12:51- We've adapted our own equipment - here in the factory...
0:12:51 > 0:12:56- ..to allow us to put milk into - the pasteuriser a little at a time.
0:12:56 > 0:13:00- It's easier for us, - in terms of risk and so on...
0:13:01 > 0:13:03- ..that everything is pasteurised.
0:13:03 > 0:13:07- That's what the market demands.
0:13:07 > 0:13:11- Many of us may be familiar with - feta cheese from Greek holidays...
0:13:12 > 0:13:16- ..but ewes' milk cheese - is relatively new in Wales.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19- How have customers reacted to it?
0:13:19 > 0:13:23- We've had a fairly mixed response...
0:13:23 > 0:13:26- ..to ewes' milk cheese.
0:13:26 > 0:13:32- Firstly, the fact that it's made - from ewes' milk puts people off.
0:13:32 > 0:13:35- But we hope to brand it - so that people try it first...
0:13:36 > 0:13:39- ..without having - any preconceived ideas.
0:13:40 > 0:13:44- We've had a fantastic response - from people who have tried it blind.
0:13:44 > 0:13:48- That's the aim - getting people - to try something different.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51- We've been very lucky this year.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54- We got first prize - at the Royal Welsh Show.
0:13:55 > 0:13:56- That was quite a shock.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59- That was for the hard cheese.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- No-one expected it, - and that was a fantastic boost.
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- It put the cheese - on the national stage, really.
0:14:07 > 0:14:10- It was great for us - and for the milk producers.
0:14:12 > 0:14:16- The response - has taken me by complete surprise.
0:14:16 > 0:14:18- The cheeses have sold out.
0:14:19 > 0:14:24- I don't believe - in competitions at all.
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- Competitions? No, not for me.
0:14:28 > 0:14:32- But the cheeses have won - quite a few awards this year.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35- At the British Cheese Awards...
0:14:35 > 0:14:41- ..Brefu Bach was named - Best New British Cheese 2016.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47- That wasn't in the business plan - at all...
0:14:47 > 0:14:49- ..but that has been a big help.
0:14:53 > 0:14:59- Two companies from two ends of Wales - venturing into new territory...
0:14:59 > 0:15:02- ..both with a unique vision.
0:15:02 > 0:15:05- Will ewes' milk cheese - ever be as popular...
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- ..as goats' milk cheese - or cows' milk cheese?
0:15:09 > 0:15:11- Only time will tell.
0:15:18 > 0:15:21- The best of luck - to both companies.
0:15:21 > 0:15:25- We're fortunate on Ffermio - to meet interesting people...
0:15:25 > 0:15:28- ..with interesting tales to tell.
0:15:28 > 0:15:29- I went to mid Wales...
0:15:29 > 0:15:33- ..to meet a unique woman - with an exceptional talent.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- Tia Jones and her husband, John...
0:15:38 > 0:15:43- ..keep 800 Welsh sheep, 20 Roussin - sheep and 30 head of cattle...
0:15:43 > 0:15:45- ..at Pwll Iwrch, Darowen in Powys.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49- Both are dedicated to the - family farm and to conservation...
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..but controversial global issues...
0:15:52 > 0:15:55- ..manifest themselves - in Tia's writing.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58- Were you raised on a farm, Tia?
0:15:58 > 0:15:59- Were you raised on a farm, Tia?- - Yes and no.
0:15:59 > 0:16:03- My grandfather - had a farm in Llanbrynmair.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- I milked cows at a young age.
0:16:05 > 0:16:09- He taught me a lot - about some wonderful things.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13- Hares, the mountain, - walking, horses.
0:16:14 > 0:16:19- He bought me and my brothers - our first pony when I was seven.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21- He taught me a great deal.
0:16:21 > 0:16:25- How much of your background...
0:16:25 > 0:16:28- ..and your way of life - is in the novel?
0:16:28 > 0:16:33- How much is it influenced - by rural life and farming?
0:16:33 > 0:16:34- A lot.
0:16:34 > 0:16:37- Not about me personally, - but things I know about.
0:16:38 > 0:16:39- Foot and mouth.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43- I know people who lost everything - because of foot and mouth.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45- Things like that.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- I haven't been through them myself, - but I did a lot of research.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52- I do a lot of careful research...
0:16:52 > 0:16:54- ..to ensure I get my facts straight.
0:16:54 > 0:17:00- Fiction may not be true, - but you must know your subject.
0:17:00 > 0:17:03- I've lived on a farm, - I've been out on the farm a lot.
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- I know how rural people think.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09- You gather things in.
0:17:09 > 0:17:11- This age, for example.
0:17:11 > 0:17:15- There's one character - in The Curlew's Cry...
0:17:15 > 0:17:18- ..who comes home - from the Balkans and Iraq.
0:17:18 > 0:17:22- He's a soldier - who's originally from Llanfeni.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- I can bring the world's problems - back to Llanfeni.
0:17:28 > 0:17:32- Tia may be enjoying - much success with her writing...
0:17:32 > 0:17:35- ..but day-to-day farm work - is important to her.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38- Are they the right weight, Tia?
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- On the whole, they're over 40 kilos.
0:17:42 > 0:17:46- Some aren't quite ready, - but I'm pleased, on the whole.
0:17:46 > 0:17:50- They're Welsh crossed with what?
0:17:50 > 0:17:54- Welsh crossed with Roussins, - a breed from Normandy in France.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57- Not unlike Suffolks, - but with a smaller frame.
0:17:57 > 0:18:02- Lambing is easier, less trouble, - with twins and triplets often.
0:18:03 > 0:18:07- Quite strong, standing and suckling - right away, which is good.
0:18:07 > 0:18:12- When you've finished writing, - you come out.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15- I love the sheep, - especially lambing time.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16- You have 800 sheep here.
0:18:17 > 0:18:20- Will you turn them all out - to a Roussin ram?
0:18:20 > 0:18:21- No. Oh, no.
0:18:21 > 0:18:26- We want to keep some Welsh ewes, - some Suffolks.
0:18:27 > 0:18:32- My husband likes Texel crosses, - and Roussins as well.
0:18:33 > 0:18:35- They all fit in well here.
0:18:35 > 0:18:39- You love going around the stock - on your horse.
0:18:39 > 0:18:43- Yes. I'm fortunate - that I lead a very good life.
0:18:43 > 0:18:47- It's really nice - to be out every day.
0:18:47 > 0:18:48- I'm very lucky.
0:18:49 > 0:18:52- You're out farming every day...
0:18:52 > 0:18:55- ..surrounded by beautiful scenery.
0:18:56 > 0:18:58- Is this what inspires you?
0:18:59 > 0:19:00- Definitely.
0:19:00 > 0:19:03- I can see the top of Ty'r Sais. - Cringoed.
0:19:03 > 0:19:07- The village I was raised. - Llanbrynmair.
0:19:07 > 0:19:09- Back to this valley.
0:19:09 > 0:19:10- It's heavenly.
0:19:10 > 0:19:12- You enjoy training the dogs.
0:19:12 > 0:19:14- You enjoy training the dogs.- - Very much so.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16- I don't want to buy them in.
0:19:16 > 0:19:19- I like to train my own puppies - and see the potential.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- I'm in no rush, so it's OK if - it doesn't happen in the first year.
0:19:24 > 0:19:25- You enjoy competing.
0:19:25 > 0:19:27- You enjoy competing.- - Yes, I enjoy it.
0:19:27 > 0:19:29- I really do.
0:19:29 > 0:19:33- I get nervous being in a field - with sheep and just one dog...
0:19:33 > 0:19:35- ..with experts watching.
0:19:36 > 0:19:41- Tia and John believe conservation - goes hand in hand with farming.
0:19:41 > 0:19:44- As a result, John has planted trees - on the farm...
0:19:44 > 0:19:48- ..using the wood to restore - some of the old buildings.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- Pine has been here for a few years.
0:19:52 > 0:19:53- Pine has been here for a few years.- - Yes.
0:19:54 > 0:19:55- They're huge now.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57- They grow well.
0:19:57 > 0:20:02- I've been farming for 40 years and - been privileged to see them grow.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05- You've planted some deciduous ones.
0:20:05 > 0:20:06- You've planted some deciduous ones.- - Yes.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08- Oak trees and all sorts.
0:20:08 > 0:20:13- You've cut them down - to use for the barn and so on.
0:20:13 > 0:20:18- I've cut down trees that my father - and people before him planted.
0:20:19 > 0:20:20- Caring for the future.
0:20:20 > 0:20:25- Are you working on a plan that - was already in place with the barn?
0:20:25 > 0:20:27- Yes, the walls were there already.
0:20:27 > 0:20:32- I'm lucky I can cut the trees down - to whatever size we want.
0:20:33 > 0:20:35- We needed a beam.
0:20:35 > 0:20:39- The building is 26 feet high.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43- It was a big help - that we could saw wood...
0:20:43 > 0:20:48- ..that was big enough - to go across the barn.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52- The experiences - Tia has here in Pwll Iwrch...
0:20:52 > 0:20:55- ..are a big influence - on what she writes.
0:20:56 > 0:20:58- How do you see things developing - here?
0:20:59 > 0:21:02- You are so busy with the sheep - and the writing.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06- I think we'll be farming less - as we get older...
0:21:06 > 0:21:09- ..and some of the children - will get into farming.
0:21:09 > 0:21:13- I'll be living on my pension...
0:21:14 > 0:21:15- ..I think.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18- Farming less, Tia, and writing more?
0:21:18 > 0:21:21- I love sheep - so I won't be cutting down much.
0:21:21 > 0:21:22- He can cut down...
0:21:23 > 0:21:26- ..but I think I'll carry on - with sheepdogs and the horses.
0:21:27 > 0:21:29- I'm still writing.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32- Do you have any concerns - about the future?
0:21:32 > 0:21:35- Yes, I have lots of worries.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38- We don't look after - our world at all.
0:21:38 > 0:21:42- The sea has been wrecked - with plastics everywhere.
0:21:42 > 0:21:47- There's talk about green issues - and green energy...
0:21:47 > 0:21:52- ..and then the Middle East - gets blown up.
0:21:52 > 0:21:56- Why look after wind turbines - if part of the world gets blown up?
0:21:56 > 0:22:01- But I think we're in the best place - to handle that.
0:22:15 > 0:22:16- A very interesting woman.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20- Tia's novels are on sale - in the shops.
0:22:20 > 0:22:25- Don't forget about the International - Sheep Dog Trials this weekend.
0:22:25 > 0:22:29- Alun, Meinir and I will be there. - I hope we'll see you there too.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33- Good luck to Medwyn Evans - and his team.
0:22:34 > 0:22:36- Come on, Wales!
0:22:36 > 0:22:39- Thank you for your company. - See you next week.
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