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0:00:18 > 0:00:20- Welcome to Ffermio.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23- I'm at Porth Meudwy near Aberdaron.
0:00:24 > 0:00:27- I'm about to cross the water - to Bardsey Island.
0:00:27 > 0:00:30- We're heading there - to speak to a young lady...
0:00:30 > 0:00:33- ..who's been managing the island - for six months.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36- Also on today's programme...
0:00:36 > 0:00:40- ..Alun has been to meet a farmer - who is having to diversify...
0:00:41 > 0:00:46- ..as he will be losing 60% - of his single farm payment by 2019.
0:00:47 > 0:00:48- We start with Meinir.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50- She's been to meet Phil Hogan...
0:00:50 > 0:00:55- ..the European Commissioner for - Agriculture and Rural Development...
0:00:55 > 0:00:57- ..at a day organized by the NFU...
0:00:57 > 0:01:01- ..to discuss the implications - of remaining in and leaving the EU.
0:01:11 > 0:01:14- Phil Hogan's - visit to Wales and Scotland...
0:01:14 > 0:01:18- ..is a great chance for farmers to - ask him about the consequences...
0:01:18 > 0:01:20- ..of remaining in the EU - and leaving.
0:01:20 > 0:01:24- I've at Goldsland Farm - near Wenvoe, Cardiff...
0:01:24 > 0:01:29- ..to shed some light on the matter - before polling day on 23 June.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33- Although the Commissioner - cannot give his opinion...
0:01:34 > 0:01:37- ..the hope - is that during the visit...
0:01:37 > 0:01:40- ..he'll outline the facts - about staying and leaving.
0:01:40 > 0:01:44- Farmers understand that it's very - important to be able to trade...
0:01:44 > 0:01:48- ..with countries, in respect - of the products they produce.
0:01:48 > 0:01:52- We've high-quality sheep, lamb - and beef here in Wales.
0:01:52 > 0:01:54- They have to have a market.
0:01:55 > 0:01:59- 92% of sheep meat is exported - to the EU and 93% of beef.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02- They get financial support - from the EU...
0:02:03 > 0:02:06- ..through - the Common Agricultural Policy.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10- 6.50 out of every 10 is the source - of a farmer's income at the moment.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13- Farmers have stability - in relation to their incomes...
0:02:14 > 0:02:16- ..for the next four years.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20- There's no guarantee they'll get - the same support from the Treasury.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- What can we expect - after the four years?
0:02:23 > 0:02:26- We have to review our Common - Agricultural Policies in 2020.
0:02:27 > 0:02:30- In the meantime, - I'll try to simplify it...
0:02:30 > 0:02:34- ..and try to make it easier for - the farmer and reduce regulations...
0:02:35 > 0:02:40- ..and support commodities that are - under pressure - dairy and pig meat.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44- These are the opportunities - we have to work with...
0:02:44 > 0:02:48- ..in terms of giving - not just financial support...
0:02:48 > 0:02:51- ..but market support - and trading opportunities.
0:02:51 > 0:02:56- If the UK leaves the EU, you'll have - to renegotiate trade agreements...
0:02:56 > 0:03:00- ..with the 27 other member states - and the 53 free trade agreements.
0:03:01 > 0:03:05- They take a long time, and it's - important farmers realize that...
0:03:05 > 0:03:09- ..if they want a market outlet - for their very good-quality product.
0:03:11 > 0:03:13- In order to gauge - farmers' opinions...
0:03:13 > 0:03:17- ..we've travelled the length - and breadth of the country...
0:03:17 > 0:03:20- ..starting - at Carmarthen's livestock market.
0:03:20 > 0:03:24- What worries me is the type - of relationship we have with Europe.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27- Some people claim - it's not a good one.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- Perhaps if we remained, - we wouldn't gain much.
0:03:31 > 0:03:33- I'm not sure at the moment.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36- You hear different stories - of what to believe.
0:03:36 > 0:03:38- I'll have to decide soon.
0:03:38 > 0:03:40- I say leave.
0:03:41 > 0:03:45- The industry - is currently in a bad state.
0:03:45 > 0:03:50- I don't think we would be - any worse off if we left Europe.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- The message coming from England...
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- ..is that we put more money - into Europe than we receive.
0:03:56 > 0:04:00- But in Wales, we receive - 850 million extra than we pay in.
0:04:00 > 0:04:04- On a Welsh level, not to mention - on an agricultural level...
0:04:04 > 0:04:06- ..it's vital that we remain.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10- If we don't get out, we're stuck - with the way Europe is...
0:04:10 > 0:04:14- ..and Europe deciding how we farm - for the next 30 or 40 years.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17- We need to look at this - as a leap into the light.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- Let's get out - for the benefit of agriculture.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24- My first instinct was to leave - but I'm even more convinced now...
0:04:24 > 0:04:27- ..after hearing Cameron - and Osborne's rubbish.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30- I'm strongly for staying in the EU.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33- It's the biggest single market - in the world.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36- Whatever business you're in...
0:04:37 > 0:04:41- ..if you pull out of the - largest market, it's a big mistake.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44- I am definitely in.
0:04:44 > 0:04:49- I think that everything - that is important to my industry...
0:04:50 > 0:04:53- ..is within Europe, - and that's where we need to stay.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55- It's the largest economy - in the world.
0:04:56 > 0:04:59- It's giving us access - to 500 million consumers.
0:04:59 > 0:05:00- We cannot underestimate that.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03- We cannot underestimate that.- - I think we should leave.
0:05:03 > 0:05:07- If you have a good product, - somebody will want it.
0:05:07 > 0:05:10- Whether it's meat, milk or steel.
0:05:10 > 0:05:14- If you produce quality, - it will always sell.
0:05:15 > 0:05:19- If they don't want it, - it's easy enough for this country...
0:05:20 > 0:05:23- ..to refuse to buy any produce - from abroad.
0:05:23 > 0:05:25- It works both ways.
0:05:26 > 0:05:31- We're safer, with regards - to discussions, if we stay.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35- Take South America, for example...
0:05:35 > 0:05:39- ..20 countries in Europe - have declared...
0:05:39 > 0:05:43- ..they don't want - South American lamb.
0:05:44 > 0:05:48- What did our government say? - They didn't give their opinion.
0:05:48 > 0:05:51- That's what we'd be dealing with - if we left Europe.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56- Norway trades in Europe, - but they're not in the EU.
0:05:56 > 0:06:00- What's to stop us - being in the same situation?
0:06:01 > 0:06:06- After listening to the Commissioner - and speaking to him afterwards...
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- ..I can only see the advantages.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- Those who speak of the disadvantages - of being in Europe...
0:06:12 > 0:06:16- ..fall out of the argument - when you discuss it with them.
0:06:16 > 0:06:19- Many of the problems - come from Cardiff.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- The problem is there.
0:06:21 > 0:06:26- We've heard one or two youngsters - say we need more European rule...
0:06:26 > 0:06:27- ..and I'd tend to agree.
0:06:28 > 0:06:30- More European rule - and less from Cardiff.
0:06:31 > 0:06:32- That's my opinion.
0:06:33 > 0:06:34- I don't have a clue.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37- I'm not sure - whether to stay or leave.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39- Does anybody know the answer?
0:06:39 > 0:06:42- Would things be worse - than they are now?
0:06:44 > 0:06:48- There's no doubt of the uncertainty - about what would happen if we left.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52- Especially because - no concrete plans exist.
0:06:52 > 0:06:55- If we chose Brexit...
0:06:55 > 0:06:59- ..do you think we'll be allowed - to trade within the European market?
0:06:59 > 0:07:02- Would it be a free market or would - there be hefty tariffs to pay?
0:07:03 > 0:07:04- There's nothing free.
0:07:04 > 0:07:08- The single market, like Norway - and Switzerland, has to be paid for.
0:07:08 > 0:07:13- 105 per head is what Norwegians pay - for access to the single market.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17- They have no influence and must - comply with the same regulations.
0:07:17 > 0:07:22- 155 per head is what the UK pays - but they have negotiating power.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26- They're able to influence the - outcome of many of these policies.
0:07:26 > 0:07:31- These are the reasons that people - will think long and hard about.
0:07:31 > 0:07:35- My job is to give the facts - about what happens at the moment.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38- It's up to the people of Wales - to decide.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42- You can't have an a la carte - Common Agricultural Policy.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45- You're either in or you're out.
0:07:53 > 0:07:56- I've arrived - on Bardsey Island safely...
0:07:56 > 0:08:00- ..as one of the 2,000 visitors - who come here each year.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04- I'm very much looking forward - to chatting to Sian Stacey...
0:08:04 > 0:08:07- ..the new manager of this island...
0:08:07 > 0:08:11- ..where over 20,000 saints - are apparently buried.
0:08:32 > 0:08:33- Hello.
0:08:33 > 0:08:34- Hello.- - Hello.
0:08:34 > 0:08:36- Sian, I'm Daloni.
0:08:36 > 0:08:37- Welcome to Bardsey.
0:08:37 > 0:08:39- Welcome to Bardsey.- - Thank you. It's wonderful here.
0:08:39 > 0:08:40- It's lovely.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42- It's lovely.- - We have fine weather today.
0:08:42 > 0:08:43- Shall I get in?
0:08:43 > 0:08:44- Shall I get in?- - Come in.
0:08:45 > 0:08:46- Thanks.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- Sian, you live in paradise.
0:09:13 > 0:09:17- It's fantastic here.
0:09:17 > 0:09:18- It's fantastic here.- - Yes.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20- Is it always like this?
0:09:20 > 0:09:21- Of course!
0:09:22 > 0:09:24- No, we had a very stormy, - wet winter.
0:09:24 > 0:09:27- Days like this make up for it.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30- It sometimes feels like - every day is like this.
0:09:31 > 0:09:34- Until the end of last year, - you were living in Cardiff.
0:09:34 > 0:09:37- What made you turn your back - on the big city...
0:09:37 > 0:09:40- ..for the depths - of the Lleyn Peninsula?
0:09:40 > 0:09:44- I was at a time of life where I felt - I wanted a new challenge.
0:09:44 > 0:09:46- I was looking for something new.
0:09:46 > 0:09:50- Fortunately, - my partner was living on Bardsey.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54- When the job came up, - I felt I had to go for it.
0:09:55 > 0:09:56- How about giving it a go?
0:09:56 > 0:10:01- You beat over 300 other applicants.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03- That's what I've heard.
0:10:04 > 0:10:05- I've been very lucky.
0:10:05 > 0:10:09- It's been quite a challenge, - but I've learned a lot.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- It's great - to live and work on Bardsey.
0:10:13 > 0:10:15- What does your work entail - from day to day?
0:10:16 > 0:10:17- What's your timetable?
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- As island manager - on behalf of the Trust...
0:10:21 > 0:10:28- ..I'm responsible for looking after - the houses and walking routes.
0:10:28 > 0:10:31- There's a lot of maintenance - to do on the houses.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- Painting and fixing things. - Making sure everything works.
0:10:36 > 0:10:40- It's all my responsibility. - There's a lot to consider.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- I've got to-do lists everywhere.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- How does the agricultural system - work?
0:10:46 > 0:10:52- Who owns the sheep and cattle - and who looks after them?
0:10:52 > 0:10:57- Gareth Roberts from Cwrt Farm - on the mainland owns the livestock.
0:10:58 > 0:11:03- There's about 250 sheep here - and about 25 cattle.
0:11:03 > 0:11:06- When they are big enough...
0:11:06 > 0:11:11- ..they're taken off the island - on Colin's large boat.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13- It's quite a big job.
0:11:13 > 0:11:18- Then they're on the farm - when they arrive on the mainland.
0:11:19 > 0:11:23- I'm sure you've learned a lot - over the last six months.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26- Yes, lots of new skills. - It's been great.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29- People are always learning - throughout their lives.
0:11:30 > 0:11:33- I've learned a lot - over the past six months.
0:11:33 > 0:11:36- And a baptism of fire, - with regards to the weather.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38- It's been awfully wet.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41- There's no hiding from the rain - here.
0:11:41 > 0:11:46- It's hard work to maintain them - and ensure everything's OK.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49- But that's what I am here to do.
0:11:49 > 0:11:53- Do you have enough electricity? - Do you have a television?
0:11:53 > 0:11:54- I'm very lucky.
0:11:54 > 0:11:58- We have a solar power system - which works well over the summer.
0:11:58 > 0:12:03- It's quite good in winter, but we - have to watch which fridges are on.
0:12:03 > 0:12:05- What do you miss from the mainland?
0:12:05 > 0:12:08- Is there anything - you can't live without?
0:12:08 > 0:12:12- I was worried - that I'd miss loads of things.
0:12:12 > 0:12:16- Living in the city, seeing friends, - going to the pub.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20- But when you're on Bardsey Island, - everything disappears.
0:12:20 > 0:12:24- I've got good relationships - with the islanders.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27- I get different pleasures - out of living on the island.
0:12:28 > 0:12:33- How do you get your food? - You can't cross when it's rough.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36- In the winter, it's difficult.
0:12:36 > 0:12:37- We've been very lucky.
0:12:38 > 0:12:41- We had to bring lots of tins - and frozen food.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44- I've planted things in the garden...
0:12:44 > 0:12:48- ..so I'm hoping they come through - for winter.
0:12:48 > 0:12:52- Have you ever been stranded here?
0:12:52 > 0:12:53- Not yet.
0:12:54 > 0:12:58- We had three or four weeks when - Colin couldn't cross on the boat.
0:12:58 > 0:13:02- That was fairly difficult, - but we didn't need anything.
0:13:02 > 0:13:04- It was nice to receive the post.
0:13:04 > 0:13:07- On the whole, we like living here.
0:13:08 > 0:13:12- We don't feel as though we're tied - to the island. It feels like home.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15- Now we're coming into summer.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- It's going to be - very different here.
0:13:17 > 0:13:21- It'll be busy with people. - Every house will be full.
0:13:21 > 0:13:25- It's very different - to just the four of us over winter.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- That's all for now.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38- I can understand - why Sian adores this place.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40- It's quiet and lovely.
0:13:40 > 0:13:43- It's glorious here today.
0:13:43 > 0:13:47- We'll be back on Bardsey Island - in the second half.
0:13:47 > 0:13:48- See you in a minute.
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0:14:00 > 0:14:04- Welcome back to Ffermio - on Bardsey Island.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07- As you can see, - it's beautiful and quiet here.
0:14:08 > 0:14:12- Alun, however, is at the centre - of the hustle and bustle...
0:14:12 > 0:14:15- ..of a new collection centre - in Saron near Llanwnda.
0:14:16 > 0:14:18- With the Basic Payment...
0:14:18 > 0:14:21- ..due to reduce considerably - for many farmers in 2019...
0:14:22 > 0:14:25- ..and all the doubt - surrounding the EU referendum...
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- ..farmers are concerned - about the future.
0:14:28 > 0:14:33- However, here at Pengwern Farm, - Saron, near Caernarfon...
0:14:34 > 0:14:38- ..the farmer has acted - and diversified within the industry.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46- After Welsh Country Foods - folded in North Wales...
0:14:46 > 0:14:51- ..Huw Jones spotted a chance to use - his farm as a collection point...
0:14:51 > 0:14:54- ..for lambs bound for the abattoirs.
0:14:54 > 0:14:58- The business is now going - from strength to strength.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02- When did you open - this collection centre?
0:15:03 > 0:15:04- This is the third year now.
0:15:07 > 0:15:12- We knew back then even - that the grants were changing.
0:15:12 > 0:15:15- The Basic Payment.
0:15:15 > 0:15:21- The Assembly has now let us know - the actual figures up to 2019.
0:15:21 > 0:15:27- The reduction in payment - from 2015 to 2019 for me...
0:15:27 > 0:15:30- ..is over 60%.
0:15:30 > 0:15:36- How much investment was needed? - It won't have happened cheaply.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- No. The shed was here before that.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41- We've had to change the interior - completely.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- We concreted the floors - and put in iron gates.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48- That was for power washing.
0:15:50 > 0:15:55- The shed is a unit in itself - - separate from the rest of the farm.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58- And a holding number?
0:15:58 > 0:16:00- Yes, the shed has one...
0:16:00 > 0:16:04- ..and a farrier comes - to check and license it every year.
0:16:04 > 0:16:08- And we also have to be part - of the Red Tractor Initiative...
0:16:09 > 0:16:11- ..to keep the food chain whole...
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- ..with Assured Food Standards.
0:16:14 > 0:16:19- Diversifying within your - given industry is quite unusual.
0:16:19 > 0:16:23- We're all supposed - to stay in the industry...
0:16:23 > 0:16:27- ..and try to squeeze - some more profit out of the system.
0:16:27 > 0:16:31- I understood the message - and saw an easy way of doing it.
0:16:32 > 0:16:34- All we do is take the lambs in.
0:16:34 > 0:16:39- Since January, the paperwork - has got a bit trickier...
0:16:39 > 0:16:42- ..with the electronic part of it.
0:16:42 > 0:16:47- I've had to learn - how to use a computer.
0:16:48 > 0:16:50- It is coming.
0:16:50 > 0:16:54- Is there an increasing demand - for the service?
0:16:55 > 0:16:58- Almost 15,000 lambs - passed through here last year.
0:16:58 > 0:17:00- It's still growing at the moment.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06- As well as running - the collection point...
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- ..Huw also keeps 550 Mule sheep...
0:17:09 > 0:17:14- ..and fattens around 100 cattle - every year on his 142 hectares.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17- What is your policy - on sheep on the farm?
0:17:17 > 0:17:21- We're cutting back a bit on sheep.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23- We're going with the Mule breed...
0:17:23 > 0:17:28- ..because they produce the same - number of lambs with fewer ewes.
0:17:29 > 0:17:30- We're trying it this year.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34- We don't know - how they'll cope with the mountain.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- We've already tried a group of them.
0:17:37 > 0:17:41- We have around - 120 Welsh Mules in the field.
0:17:41 > 0:17:43- They go up this afternoon.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47- You've cross-bred them - with your own rams.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- Yes, we've crossed them - with our Texel rams.
0:17:50 > 0:17:53- My son keeps a few Texels - and we thought we'd give it a go.
0:17:53 > 0:17:57- We buy a new ram - every couple of years or so.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01- One person - who deals a lot with Huw...
0:18:02 > 0:18:05- ..is Dafydd Wyn Jones, - a field officer for Dunbia.
0:18:05 > 0:18:10- He has years of experience buying - stock and he's a willing adviser.
0:18:10 > 0:18:15- Tell us about your relationship - with this collection point.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16- How did it start?
0:18:17 > 0:18:21- It started when the Dunbia bosses...
0:18:21 > 0:18:25- ..asked me to find a site - for a collection centre in the area.
0:18:27 > 0:18:32- After looking around, - I decided Huw's place was perfect.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36- What inspired the search - in the first place?
0:18:36 > 0:18:38- Were there problems on Anglesey?
0:18:40 > 0:18:46- We wanted everything to be legal and - above board with the authorities.
0:18:46 > 0:18:50- We didn't want to have to make - pick-ups on the roadsides.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54- We were trying to make life easier - for the hauliers.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58- Today, our driver, Geraint Davies, - has two collection points.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01- One on Anglesey and the other here.
0:19:01 > 0:19:05- The lorry will be full - with 550 lambs. Job done.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09- How do you keep in touch - with your customers?
0:19:10 > 0:19:14- The first thing I do is ring up Andy - Finch in the abattoir in Preston.
0:19:14 > 0:19:19- Andy tells me what he wants, - what kind he wants and the price.
0:19:20 > 0:19:25- Then I send out a text to the 150 - farmers I have on my mobile phone.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30- I send messages on Thursdays - afternoons and Tuesdays mornings.
0:19:30 > 0:19:36- We collect here on Sunday - and Wednesday mornings.
0:19:37 > 0:19:42- The phone starts ringing flat out - ten minutes after I send the text.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- It can be first come first served.
0:19:46 > 0:19:49- What's your price right now?
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- 4.10 for large lambs...
0:19:53 > 0:19:57- ..and a flat rate of 4.75 - on the smaller lambs under 15 kilos.
0:19:58 > 0:20:00- The lambs are sent to Preston...
0:20:00 > 0:20:04- ..but where is the end - of the journey for the meat?
0:20:04 > 0:20:07- The beauty of Preston is...
0:20:07 > 0:20:10- ..they can take lambs - from 8 kilos up to 21 kilos.
0:20:10 > 0:20:16- They go for export, supermarkets - and to the ethnic trade.
0:20:16 > 0:20:20- They also go to - butchers and wholesalers.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24- Can cattle come through - this collection point too?
0:20:24 > 0:20:28- We do a lot of cattle, - which goes to Preston and Sawley.
0:20:29 > 0:20:32- We have - a Hereford cattle meat scheme...
0:20:32 > 0:20:35- ..with the Co-op and Sainsbury's.
0:20:35 > 0:20:37- There's a substantial premium...
0:20:38 > 0:20:44- ..on the animals that have - a registered pedigree sire.
0:20:45 > 0:20:49- You're giving - what the customer wants.
0:20:56 > 0:20:59- From the bleating of the lambs - here at Saron...
0:20:59 > 0:21:03- ..back to the perfect peace - of Bardsey Island and Daloni.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18- Where are these - 20,000 saints buried?
0:21:18 > 0:21:22- The legend says it's 20,000. - I don't really know.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24- They are all over the island.
0:21:24 > 0:21:28- A lot of them are said to be - in this section of the island.
0:21:29 > 0:21:31- They might be - under our feet right now.
0:21:31 > 0:21:36- No surprise then - that the land looks so fertile.
0:21:37 > 0:21:38- It's very green here.
0:21:38 > 0:21:44- Considering we've had such a wet - winter, everything looks very good.
0:21:44 > 0:21:47- Do you feel at home here?
0:21:47 > 0:21:50- Yes. Bardsey is my home now.
0:21:50 > 0:21:56- When I just cross to the mainland, - I start to pine for it.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58- It's my home for now.
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- And this is where you'll stay?
0:22:00 > 0:22:01- And this is where you'll stay?- - I hope so.
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- A place where the soul can breathe.
0:22:05 > 0:22:09- Yes, perhaps, if there was time - off work. I'm very busy here.
0:22:09 > 0:22:10- It is lovely.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13- Thanks for the chat and the welcome.
0:22:13 > 0:22:17- I hope you have a successful summer.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20- I'm headed back for the boat.
0:22:20 > 0:22:21- Goodbye.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- Our time on Bardsey is over.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44- We're sailing back to the mainland.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- If you would like - to take a holiday on Bardsey...
0:22:47 > 0:22:50- ..or volunteer to work there - with Sian...
0:22:50 > 0:22:54- ..you can do so by contacting - the Bardsey Island Trust.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58- We're back next week when Alun will - be on the Rhug Estate, Corwen...
0:22:59 > 0:23:04- ..for the Royal Welsh Grassland - Event that takes place on Thursday.
0:23:05 > 0:23:06- See you then.
0:23:06 > 0:23:07- Goodnight.
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