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0:00:17 > 0:00:19- Hello and welcome to Ffermio.

0:00:19 > 0:00:22- I'm in Llanuwchllyn to meet a man...

0:00:22 > 0:00:27- ..who has become a familiar face - on the screen over the past year.

0:00:27 > 0:00:30- He has won awards - for his agricultural abilities...

0:00:31 > 0:00:33- ..and for his mental - and physical skills.

0:00:34 > 0:00:35- Is that enough of a clue?

0:00:36 > 0:00:37- Find out who it is shortly.

0:00:39 > 0:00:44- Also on the programme, Meinir - joins blacksmith Daniel Thomas...

0:00:44 > 0:00:49- ..and Daloni - is among chickens near Ruthin.

0:00:50 > 0:00:56- But first, I've come to - Brynllech Uchaf Farm, Llanuwchllyn.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58- This is the home of Rhodri Jones...

0:00:59 > 0:01:02- ..who had a very successful year - last year.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06- He was a member - of Fferm Ffactor's winning team...

0:01:06 > 0:01:09- ..and also won a large sum of money - on The Cube.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12- He clearly likes a challenge.

0:01:12 > 0:01:15- But what's he like at home?

0:01:22 > 0:01:27- In any business, it's important - to have a competitive streak.

0:01:28 > 0:01:31- It helps you to improve yourself - and what you do.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35- Unfortunately, one of my weaknesses - is that I'm overly competitive.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39- We think of Fferm Ffactor - as being quite intimate.

0:01:39 > 0:01:43- I imagine that being on The Cube - was terrifying.

0:01:43 > 0:01:44- It takes guts.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49- There were so many things - going on at the time.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53- I applied and thought - I'd never hear from them.

0:01:53 > 0:01:55- One thing led to another.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59- I was also organizing a wedding - at the time.

0:01:59 > 0:02:03- Next thing, - we were filming within a week.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06- Tell me about home - the farm.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08- This is a very windy spot.

0:02:09 > 0:02:14- The snow-capped Moel Llyfnant - and Arenig are behind us.

0:02:15 > 0:02:16- It can't be easy here.

0:02:16 > 0:02:17- It can't be easy here.- - No, it's not.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20- One of the main problems here - is the lack of shelter.

0:02:21 > 0:02:26- It limits the choice of breeds - that we can keep here.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29- Welsh Mountain sheep like it here.

0:02:29 > 0:02:30- The way forward for us...

0:02:31 > 0:02:34- ..is to improve the breeds - that we're able to keep here.

0:02:34 > 0:02:36- What about conservation?

0:02:37 > 0:02:39- Are you in the Glastir scheme?

0:02:39 > 0:02:44- We've gone to Glastir and try - to use it to make improvements here.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48- We've planted hedges, - and fenced a lot off...

0:02:48 > 0:02:54- ..to try to improve shelter - and to help us in years to come...

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- ..not just to get the payments.

0:02:57 > 0:02:59- There are exceptional views here.

0:02:59 > 0:03:01- There are exceptional views here.- - It's a favourite spot of mine.

0:03:01 > 0:03:06- If I'm in a bad mood, - I come here to gather my thoughts.

0:03:06 > 0:03:10- There's something very relaxing - about the place.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15- Brynllech Uchaf is a 640-acre farm.

0:03:15 > 0:03:20- As well as sheep, - Rhodri keeps 38 Welsh Black cattle.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27- Welsh Black cattle - are one of my big passions.

0:03:28 > 0:03:31- What better opportunity - to promote the breed...

0:03:32 > 0:03:36- ..than to say on The Cube - that I need money to buy a bull?!

0:03:37 > 0:03:39- You won 50,000.

0:03:39 > 0:03:44- I'm sure there are people knocking - on the door with bulls to sell!

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- Everything goes up in value - if people think I'm interested.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52- The Welsh Black cow is special.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56- There are very few cattle - that are cheaper to keep...

0:03:56 > 0:04:01- ..and that can produce wonderful - store animals at 18 months old.

0:04:01 > 0:04:06- As you've seen, the terrain here - isn't the most productive.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09- We need a cow that is productive - on a low input.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12- Cutting costs is important today.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15- If the money - that we're able we get in...

0:04:16 > 0:04:20- ..is reduced or limited...

0:04:20 > 0:04:24- ..we also have to limit our costs.

0:04:24 > 0:04:28- In my opinion, - the Welsh Black cow is ideal...

0:04:28 > 0:04:31- ..and serves its purpose perfectly.

0:04:31 > 0:04:34- You're 38 years old now.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37- Yes, poor you!

0:04:37 > 0:04:40- You've been fortunate enough...

0:04:40 > 0:04:44- ..to have been at the helm - of this business for many years.

0:04:44 > 0:04:46- Yes, I've been very lucky.

0:04:46 > 0:04:48- When I was very young...

0:04:48 > 0:04:53- ..Mam and Dad were willing - to let me make decisions...

0:04:53 > 0:04:57- ..so that I could learn - from my own mistakes.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01- Although we're still - three-way partners...

0:05:01 > 0:05:06- ..they've been very supportive - of the changes I've wanted to make.

0:05:07 > 0:05:11- I hope that they're happy...

0:05:11 > 0:05:13- ..with the way we've progressed.

0:05:13 > 0:05:17- Rhodri is the fourth generation - to farm here.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20- His parents remain a big help - to him from day to day.

0:05:21 > 0:05:23- Llew, how did you decide...

0:05:23 > 0:05:28- ..to hand over the reins to Rhodri - when he was so young?

0:05:28 > 0:05:33- That's how you keep - young people interested.

0:05:33 > 0:05:36- For one thing, - it helps them improve.

0:05:36 > 0:05:40- He had his ideas, - and we worked together...

0:05:40 > 0:05:43- ..though we didn't always agree.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- I think it's important - to provide opportunities...

0:05:48 > 0:05:52- ..to keep them interested - and keep them in rural areas.

0:05:52 > 0:05:55- What did you think of him - on television...

0:05:55 > 0:05:58- ..winning Fferm Ffactor - and then all that money?

0:05:59 > 0:06:02- Every penny helps us poor people.

0:06:03 > 0:06:04- Exactly. It's not easy for you.

0:06:04 > 0:06:08- Exactly. It's not easy for you.- - He enjoyed it, so we left him to it.

0:06:08 > 0:06:12- He told me - that the only way he could do it...

0:06:12 > 0:06:14- ..was knowing you were here.

0:06:14 > 0:06:18- I'm sure it helped, us entering - a few shows on his behalf.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20- Llew, thank you for your time.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22- Llew, thank you for your time.- - Thank you.

0:06:22 > 0:06:23- And for the welcome.

0:06:23 > 0:06:27- I kept out of the way, - hoping you wouldn't want to see me!

0:06:29 > 0:06:31- As if he was a shy man!

0:06:34 > 0:06:39- Rhodri is a member of the NFU Cymru - Next Generation Policy Group.

0:06:39 > 0:06:41- Last year, he went to Brussels...

0:06:42 > 0:06:47- ..to find out more about the EU's - vision of the future of agriculture.

0:06:47 > 0:06:49- I wonder what he thinks...

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- ..will face our young farmers - in the years to come?

0:06:53 > 0:06:57- I was surprised - by the support from Europe...

0:06:57 > 0:07:01- ..and their resolve that farming - must have a prosperous future.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05- Tom Tynan firmly believes...

0:07:06 > 0:07:10- ..in securing a bright future - for agriculture in Europe.

0:07:10 > 0:07:15- In my opinion, leaving the EU - would be a terrible mistake.

0:07:16 > 0:07:21- Being a part of the European family - is crucial for agriculture.

0:07:21 > 0:07:24- You also live in an area...

0:07:24 > 0:07:30- ..where there's a wealth - of young, enthusiastic farmers.

0:07:30 > 0:07:34- What kind of future do you envisage - for them at the moment...

0:07:35 > 0:07:38- ..when each agricultural sector - is facing a crisis?

0:07:39 > 0:07:42- When we're surrounded - by this countryside...

0:07:42 > 0:07:47- ..and people realize that we have - these wonderful views...

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- ..because of agriculture - and our agricultural systems...

0:07:51 > 0:07:55- ..we must ensure that the industry - thrives for years to come.

0:07:55 > 0:08:00- Providing we do things - as effectively as possible...

0:08:00 > 0:08:05- ..I think there's a bright future - ahead in the long term.

0:08:07 > 0:08:09- That's it for this part.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11- Join us again after the break...

0:08:12 > 0:08:16- ..when Daloni visits a farm - that produces 30,000 eggs a day.

0:08:16 > 0:08:17- Don't go far!

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0:08:28 > 0:08:29- Welcome back.

0:08:29 > 0:08:33- This week, Daloni has been visiting - an enterprising farm...

0:08:33 > 0:08:37- ..which has significantly expanded - its chicken business.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42- Here at Ty'n Celyn farm - in Clocaenog near Ruthin...

0:08:43 > 0:08:45- ..there is a huge new shed.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48- A shed which is home to 32,000 hens.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- Catrin Jones and husband Bruce...

0:08:55 > 0:08:59- ..started with a handful of hens - eight years ago.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02- Slowly, the hobby - became a livelihood.

0:09:03 > 0:09:08- Eight years ago, - we decided to buy four chickens...

0:09:08 > 0:09:14- ..as something for the boys to look - after, to learn about animals.

0:09:15 > 0:09:20- Then we bought a few different - breeds for them to see a variety.

0:09:20 > 0:09:26- After a while, we had too many eggs - so we decided to get more chickens.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29- We then started to sell some eggs.

0:09:30 > 0:09:36- We started with 50 hens, then after - a month, a 100, then 200, then 500.

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- We were out all day, every day. - selling eggs.

0:09:41 > 0:09:48- Four years ago, there was talk that - caged hens were going to be banned.

0:09:48 > 0:09:52- As we had the land available, - we decided to build a big shed.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56- Now we have 32,000 hens.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58- What's that small shed over there?

0:09:59 > 0:10:01- That's where it all started.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05- It's there to remind us - of where we started.

0:10:05 > 0:10:07- When you were building the shed...

0:10:08 > 0:10:10- ..were you sure there was - a market for the eggs?

0:10:11 > 0:10:15- We were fortunate to get a contract - with Lloyd's Animal Feeds.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18- They have helped us tremendously.

0:10:18 > 0:10:21- They have taught us - what to do with the hens....

0:10:21 > 0:10:24- ..and are always available - if we have any problems.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27- How does it work - between you and them?

0:10:27 > 0:10:31- They order the chickens for us...

0:10:31 > 0:10:35- ..but then we have to buy feed - from them.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38- They find contracts for the eggs...

0:10:38 > 0:10:43- ..and at the end of the season, they - find a place for the chickens too.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45- For how long do you keep the hens?

0:10:46 > 0:10:53- We keep the hens until they are - 72 weeks old, which is 14 months.

0:10:53 > 0:10:56- How many eggs leave here every day?

0:10:56 > 0:11:01- We produce around 30,000 eggs - every day.

0:11:01 > 0:11:01- Every day?

0:11:01 > 0:11:02- Every day?- - Yes, every day.

0:11:03 > 0:11:04- A lot of work, Catrin.

0:11:04 > 0:11:06- A lot of work, Catrin.- - There's a lot of work...

0:11:06 > 0:11:10- ..but it's nice to see eggs coming - down on the conveyor belt.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15- Despite having a contract - with Lloyd's Animal Feeds...

0:11:16 > 0:11:20- ..Catrin still takes eggs to Ruthin - mart every Tuesday and Thursday.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23- She also supplies local shops.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39- There are chickens - in every nook and cranny, Catrin.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42- They seem to get louder.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45- They think we are talking to them.

0:11:45 > 0:11:46- Hello, girls!

0:11:46 > 0:11:47- Hello, girls!- - They are responding.

0:11:48 > 0:11:49- Can we go in?

0:11:49 > 0:11:50- Can we go in?- - Yes, of course.

0:11:50 > 0:11:54- Their cries increase in volume - as our voices get louder.

0:11:54 > 0:11:56- It's very funny.

0:11:57 > 0:11:59- Hello, girls.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02- Do you have some eggs for us today?

0:12:02 > 0:12:04- They're everywhere, Catrin.

0:12:04 > 0:12:06- They're everywhere, Catrin.- - Yes, indeed.

0:12:06 > 0:12:10- They are free to go in and out - as they please.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14- They have the freedom to do - whatever they like during the day.

0:12:15 > 0:12:16- Where do they lay?

0:12:16 > 0:12:20- In the centre - there are some orange curtains.

0:12:20 > 0:12:24- They go behind them - to lay their eggs.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27- They can get a bit - of peace and quiet...

0:12:27 > 0:12:31- ..and then the eggs roll - down the conveyor belt.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- The belt goes around twice a day.

0:12:36 > 0:12:40- It carries the eggs - into the packing room.

0:12:40 > 0:12:42- What type of hens are they?

0:12:43 > 0:12:46- This breed is called Lohmann Lite.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50- We've had these since the beginning.

0:12:50 > 0:12:54- It's a breed which has worked well - for us.

0:12:55 > 0:12:58- They seem very happy. - Free and happy hens.

0:12:59 > 0:13:03- Yes, and we also give them - something to peck on.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07- You can see the cones, bottles - and cartons.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12- Something to keep them happy; - what a hen wants to do is to peck.

0:13:12 > 0:13:17- If they're happy to peck those - things, they won't peck each other.

0:13:17 > 0:13:22- How much upkeep is involved; - cleaning, washing and the like?

0:13:23 > 0:13:25- They are pecking. Cheeky!

0:13:26 > 0:13:28- We muck out once a week.

0:13:29 > 0:13:35- The waste is put straight into a - trailer and sold to farmers...

0:13:35 > 0:13:39- ..who spread it on their land - as a fertilizer.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42- They look so healthy, Catrin.

0:13:43 > 0:13:48- I think that has to do with the fact - that they're free range.

0:13:48 > 0:13:50- They can go outside.

0:13:51 > 0:13:52- In this shed...

0:13:52 > 0:13:57- ..the hens are also on different - levels and can roam freely.

0:13:59 > 0:14:00- You've heard of the "pecking order".

0:14:00 > 0:14:01- You've heard of the "pecking order".- - Yes.

0:14:01 > 0:14:03- This is where it is.

0:14:06 > 0:14:07- Sorry!

0:14:10 > 0:14:12- It's getting quieter.

0:14:12 > 0:14:15- The stronger ones have arrived.

0:14:15 > 0:14:19- Sorry, ladies, - but I had a bit of a fright.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24- With the pecking order, - the stronger ones live at the top.

0:14:24 > 0:14:29- If they're a bit weaker, - they have to go somewhere else...

0:14:29 > 0:14:31- ..so they don't get bullied.

0:14:32 > 0:14:33- It's very clever.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43- Huw, you are Catrin's father.

0:14:43 > 0:14:44- Huw, you are Catrin's father.- - I am.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- When it's busy, you are summoned.

0:14:47 > 0:14:51- Sometimes, I'm called at short - notice if someone hasn't turned up.

0:14:51 > 0:14:53- What are you doing here?

0:14:53 > 0:14:57- Sorting them by picking out - the big eggs...

0:14:57 > 0:15:00- ..the dirty and cracked ones.

0:15:00 > 0:15:02- I put them in different places.

0:15:02 > 0:15:03- The rejects.

0:15:03 > 0:15:04- The rejects.- - Yes, the rejects.

0:15:04 > 0:15:06- Not many to be seen.

0:15:06 > 0:15:10- No, on the whole, it's quite good.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12- You are Huw's grandfather.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16- Huw, son of Catrin and Bruce - is over there.

0:15:16 > 0:15:17- How are you, Huw?

0:15:17 > 0:15:18- How are you, Huw?- - Fine, thanks.

0:15:18 > 0:15:19- What are you doing?

0:15:19 > 0:15:21- What are you doing?- - I'm weighing eggs.

0:15:21 > 0:15:21- Weighing them?

0:15:21 > 0:15:22- Weighing them?- - Yes.

0:15:23 > 0:15:25- How heavy should they be?

0:15:25 > 0:15:28- How heavy should they be?- - 63g or more.

0:15:28 > 0:15:28- Is Taid a good fella?

0:15:28 > 0:15:31- Is Taid a good fella?- - Yes.

0:15:31 > 0:15:32- Does he behave himself?

0:15:32 > 0:15:33- Does he behave himself?- - Yes.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35- Does he work hard - or is he a slacker?

0:15:35 > 0:15:36- He works hard.

0:15:37 > 0:15:39- What will you have for supper?

0:15:39 > 0:15:42- An omelette probably, - looking at those!

0:15:44 > 0:15:46- Now that the hens have a new home...

0:15:47 > 0:15:50- ..the old buildings where they - used to roost have been renovated.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55- The two holiday homes here now - are really worth a look.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00- Six years ago, there were about - 300 hens in this house.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- We then built the big shed - so this wasn't being utilized...

0:16:05 > 0:16:08- ..so we decided to convert - it into two holiday homes.

0:16:09 > 0:16:11- We haven't looked back since.

0:16:11 > 0:16:14- You must be busy, - all things considered.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- There's always something - to be done around here.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- What are your hopes for the future?

0:16:20 > 0:16:22- I hope we go - from strength to strength...

0:16:23 > 0:16:26- ..that the hens continue to lay, - that people still come to stay...

0:16:27 > 0:16:30- ..and that one day, the children - will take an interest...

0:16:30 > 0:16:33- ..and hopefully, they will help out.

0:16:35 > 0:16:40- There's nothing better than seeing - a skill passed down the generations.

0:16:40 > 0:16:46- Meinir has been to see - a blacksmith of over 30 years...

0:16:46 > 0:16:52- ..who is determined that the skills - he's learnt won't die with him.

0:16:56 > 0:16:59- Daniel Thomas is - a third-generation blacksmith.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04- He has a large base of customers - across West Wales.

0:17:05 > 0:17:08- The craft runs through his veins.

0:17:09 > 0:17:13- He learnt all his skills from - his father and his grandfather.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18- My grandfather, father and uncle - were blacksmiths in Gorsgoch.

0:17:19 > 0:17:24- When I was at school, I was always - over at the smithy making things.

0:17:25 > 0:17:29- I went to college - in Hereford for four years.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33- I finished there when I was 21. - I've been at it since then.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36- Was it hard setting up - your own business?

0:17:36 > 0:17:38- It was.

0:17:40 > 0:17:44- It's like every service, treat the - customer well and you get the work.

0:17:44 > 0:17:48- Where's the demand? Do you - go to it or does it come here?

0:17:49 > 0:17:54- Most of it is away from here. No-one - has time to bring the horses here.

0:17:54 > 0:17:58- They want you to go to them - to shoe their horses.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- Some horses are shy of the horsebox.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05- You have to go out - and shoe it in its own stable.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08- What's the appeal - of being a blacksmith?

0:18:09 > 0:18:12- You meet different people every day.

0:18:12 > 0:18:17- There's a great deal of satisfaction - in shoeing a horse...

0:18:17 > 0:18:20- ..that's been lame for a long while.

0:18:20 > 0:18:26- You do the job and then the horse - wins at a show. That feels good.

0:18:27 > 0:18:31- It must be nice - to sustain a family tradition.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- It was great - to see Ioan this morning...

0:18:35 > 0:18:39- ..making a horseshoe - from a 12-inch strip of iron.

0:18:39 > 0:18:41- He made this this morning.

0:18:46 > 0:18:49- He has a list of customers - to visit today.

0:18:49 > 0:18:54- The first is Mair Davies, - Cysgod-Y-Brwyn, Newcastle Emlyn.

0:18:56 > 0:19:00- This mare does a lot of jumping - so she needs support for the heels.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04- We place the studs in here.

0:19:04 > 0:19:05- The studs go in.

0:19:05 > 0:19:10- When Mair is jumping on the day, - she'll have studs on both sides.

0:19:10 > 0:19:13- They come out after the competition.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16- Like studs on - a rugby or football boot.

0:19:17 > 0:19:19- Different studs - for different conditions.

0:19:20 > 0:19:22- They help with show jumping.

0:19:22 > 0:19:24- It gives the horse confidence.

0:19:24 > 0:19:26- Is every horse different?

0:19:27 > 0:19:30- They are all different. - You get to know the horse.

0:19:31 > 0:19:33- You do it every six weeks - which helps.

0:19:34 > 0:19:37- Some are tame and quiet, - others are nervous.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44- How dependent are you - on the blacksmith?

0:19:44 > 0:19:47- You have to book him in - every six weeks.

0:19:48 > 0:19:51- He comes when we want him, - morning or afternoon.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53- If one of my horses loses a shoe.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57- He asks when the next show is - and he turns up straight away.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00- How crucial is shoeing the horses?

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- In the summer, - she always has studs put in.

0:20:03 > 0:20:07- It's so important - against the clock that she can...

0:20:08 > 0:20:11- ..turn quickly and - avoid slipping into fences.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16- She has to feel confident - she won't slip.

0:20:17 > 0:20:19- It's worth every penny.

0:20:19 > 0:20:20- It's worth every penny.- - Yes, it is.

0:20:22 > 0:20:24- Daniel is an expert in the field.

0:20:24 > 0:20:29- He's won five successive national - titles for shoeing shire horses.

0:20:29 > 0:20:33- He is also the official blacksmith - for the Royal Welsh since 15 years.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37- With nearly 50 horses to shoe...

0:20:37 > 0:20:41- ..every single week of the year - he's a very busy man.

0:20:46 > 0:20:46- Is there a technique for each horse?

0:20:46 > 0:20:48- Is there a technique for each horse?- - Every horse is different.

0:20:48 > 0:20:51- There's more to do than just - getting the shoe on the foot.

0:20:51 > 0:20:55- You have to - prepare the hoof for the shoe.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58- You have to assess - what the horse is expected to do.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- This is called a bar shoe.

0:21:00 > 0:21:05- It's for horses with - injured tendons or narrow hoofs.

0:21:05 > 0:21:08- It needs a lot of support - at the back.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11- That improves the foot.

0:21:11 > 0:21:14- There's less pressure on the front.

0:21:14 > 0:21:18- You need them to be standing up - straight for dressage and jumping.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22- That means the hoof - needs lots of support.

0:21:23 > 0:21:29- What else do dressage horses need? - You've got a famous one today.

0:21:29 > 0:21:34- Yes, I'm doing a horse - out in New Quay today.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37- It's won a British title - for Dressage.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40- It needs new shoeing every week.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42- We have to ensure - it has enough support.

0:21:43 > 0:21:48- The feet have to be perfectly - balanced and moving correctly.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52- You feel the pressure - with that type of job.

0:21:52 > 0:21:54- He has to be right - for the big shows.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- You also like having - apprentices about the place.

0:21:59 > 0:22:02- I've been training them up - for the last decade.

0:22:02 > 0:22:06- I have Ioan here from Aberystwyth - and Cahill from Ireland.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09- I help them and they help me. - It works both ways.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- I've been very lucky - to get a place with Daniel...

0:22:15 > 0:22:19- ..because people doing - the pre-farriery course...

0:22:19 > 0:22:22- ..struggle for places - and I've got one close to home.

0:22:23 > 0:22:23- Are you enjoying it?

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- Are you enjoying it?- - Every single minute.

0:22:25 > 0:22:29- It's a lot of work and there's - lots to learn but I enjoy it.

0:22:31 > 0:22:34- Working as a blacksmith - is very taxing and physical.

0:22:35 > 0:22:39- Daniel obviously loves his work.

0:22:41 > 0:22:42- What's the future for you?

0:22:43 > 0:22:46- I hope to carry on for many years.

0:22:46 > 0:22:51- I hope my son, Rhodri, will come - back and work full-time with me.

0:22:51 > 0:22:55- He's working away in Welshpool.

0:22:55 > 0:23:01- He's a blacksmith too so - he'll be the fourth generation.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04- I hope he comes back - before I'm over the hill.

0:23:14 > 0:23:18- That's all from the first - official episode of the Spring.

0:23:18 > 0:23:21- The mountain tops may - still be mottled with snow...

0:23:21 > 0:23:23- ..but there are - signs of an early spring.

0:23:23 > 0:23:28- It will all have settled down by May - when we want to put the cattle out.

0:23:29 > 0:23:32- It's nice to be looking forward.

0:23:32 > 0:23:35- We'll look forward - to your company next week.

0:23:35 > 0:23:39- Until then, from me and the whole - Ffermio team, goodnight to you all.

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