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0:00:17 > 0:00:21- Hello and a warm welcome to Ffermio.

0:00:21 > 0:00:25- We're in the lovely area - of Rhandirmwyn near Llandovery.

0:00:25 > 0:00:27- Later on the programme...

0:00:27 > 0:00:31- ..I meet a young farmer - who divides his time...

0:00:31 > 0:00:35- ..between working in these fields - and his career on the rugby pitch.

0:00:36 > 0:00:40- Coming up, Daloni will be visiting - a brand-new egg venture...

0:00:40 > 0:00:44- ..and we'll have the second question - in our competition.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49- We begin this week's programme - at the Senedd in Cardiff...

0:00:49 > 0:00:52- ..and the latest developments - regarding TB.

0:00:56 > 0:01:00- Since the postponement - of the badger vaccination scheme...

0:01:00 > 0:01:05- ..people have been keen to hear the - Welsh Government's next strategy...

0:01:05 > 0:01:09- ..to control and eradicate TB - in cattle here in Wales.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13- Cabinet Secretary - Lesley Griffiths...

0:01:14 > 0:01:16- ..has announced - a 12-week consultation...

0:01:17 > 0:01:22- ..to look at plans that could allow - the culling of infected badgers...

0:01:22 > 0:01:26- ..in badly-affected areas, - as has happened in Northern Ireland.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30- But one measure which will be - introduced immediately...

0:01:30 > 0:01:32- ..is the division of Wales - into three zones.

0:01:33 > 0:01:38- One of the measures we are bringing - forward in today's statement...

0:01:38 > 0:01:40- ..is regionalization.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43- We know that TB - is a very complex picture...

0:01:43 > 0:01:46- ..but it's also not - a uniform picture across Wales.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51- We have a low incidence area, - we have two intermediate areas...

0:01:51 > 0:01:53- ..and two high TB incidence areas.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57- In those high incidence areas, - we have some farms...

0:01:57 > 0:02:02- ..that have been under herd - breakdown restrictions for years.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05- I don't think that's sustainable - or acceptable.

0:02:05 > 0:02:09- We have to find - a different way of dealing with it.

0:02:09 > 0:02:12- One of the plans - is to have bespoke action plans...

0:02:12 > 0:02:14- ..for those chronic herd breakdowns.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18- I would expect the farmer, - their vet and the APHA...

0:02:18 > 0:02:21- ..to work together to come up - with that bespoke action plan.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- When you looked at - the most challenging areas...

0:02:25 > 0:02:28- ..you referred to - the Northern Irish Pilot Project.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31- Tell us why you decided - to refer to that.

0:02:31 > 0:02:33- They cage-trapped badgers.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36- If they were negative, - they vaccinated them.

0:02:36 > 0:02:40- If they were positive, - they were humanely killed.

0:02:40 > 0:02:44- I've been looking very closely - at the outcome of that.

0:02:44 > 0:02:47- It's important - for badgers' health and welfare too.

0:02:47 > 0:02:50- We want to see - a healthier badger population too.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53- I'm not going to pre-empt - the bespoke action plans...

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- ..but it's important - to look at all options.

0:02:57 > 0:03:03- The consultation is also considering - an Informed Purchasing Scheme...

0:03:03 > 0:03:05- ..to help farmers make decisions...

0:03:05 > 0:03:09- ..based on the health - of the cattle they want to buy.

0:03:09 > 0:03:15- It also proposes reducing the TB - compensation cap to 5,000.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17- Plenty of food for thought.

0:03:17 > 0:03:21- After the initial discussion - in the Senedd a few weeks ago...

0:03:21 > 0:03:25- ..how do the other parties feel - about the consultation?

0:03:25 > 0:03:28- I hope everyone - will react positively.

0:03:28 > 0:03:31- We finally have the opportunity - to create...

0:03:32 > 0:03:36- ..a national and regional plan - that will eradicate this disease.

0:03:36 > 0:03:41- A plan that will get to grips with - TB both in cattle and in wildlife...

0:03:42 > 0:03:45- ..in a moderate way - that is proportionate...

0:03:46 > 0:03:48- ..to the problems we have - in different areas.

0:03:49 > 0:03:51- Some of the plans stand out...

0:03:51 > 0:03:55- ..such as relaxing regulations - in some areas in North Wales.

0:03:55 > 0:03:59- Does that take us back - to a time before testing...

0:03:59 > 0:04:01- ..and does it increase the risk?

0:04:01 > 0:04:03- That area has been done, of course.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- When it comes to something specific - concerning TB...

0:04:07 > 0:04:13- ..it is possible to treat areas such - as north-west Wales as lower risk...

0:04:13 > 0:04:15- ..compared to other areas.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20- It follows that the burden on - farmers in those areas will be less.

0:04:21 > 0:04:25- Not everyone will agree - but I think it's the way forward...

0:04:25 > 0:04:28- ..to get the public and farmers - on board.

0:04:28 > 0:04:33- The European Commission will also - see we take the matter seriously.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36- I welcome some parts - of the statement...

0:04:36 > 0:04:41- ..that we heard from the - Cabinet Secretary this afternoon.

0:04:41 > 0:04:45- However, I don't feel - it goes far enough at the moment.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50- I feel that all badgers - carrying the disease must be culled.

0:04:50 > 0:04:54- I think it's important - that the Welsh Government acts...

0:04:54 > 0:04:56- ..after this consultation.

0:04:56 > 0:05:01- A vacuum has surrounded governmental - policy on this matter...

0:05:02 > 0:05:04- ..for the past year...

0:05:04 > 0:05:08- ..since they confirmed - they were postponing vaccination.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12- I give a cautious welcome - to the statement.

0:05:12 > 0:05:17- After five years of denying that - badger culling has a role to play...

0:05:17 > 0:05:21- ..the government is now saying - culling could have a role...

0:05:21 > 0:05:24- ..on the basis - of the Northern Ireland model.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26- That is an important step.

0:05:27 > 0:05:32- We should remember that this - is a consultation document...

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- ..and not a definitive strategy.

0:05:34 > 0:05:39- Those in the agricultural sector, - rural communities and beyond...

0:05:39 > 0:05:43- ..who believe in badger culling - should respond positively to this...

0:05:44 > 0:05:47- ..and urge the government - to move in that direction.

0:05:48 > 0:05:52- Since the introduction - of the eradication scheme in 2012...

0:05:52 > 0:05:55- ..the number of new cases - has fallen 19%.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57- That seems to be good news.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00- Are the agricultural unions happy?

0:06:01 > 0:06:03- There is a glimmer of hope today.

0:06:03 > 0:06:07- She's spoken about the areas - badly affected by TB.

0:06:07 > 0:06:11- We've experienced this problem - for over 20 years at home.

0:06:11 > 0:06:14- Up to now, we haven't - held out much hope in Wales.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17- Badgers have been culled in England.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20- I half expected Wales - to follow in England's footsteps.

0:06:21 > 0:06:26- But areas like Meirionnydd or - Anglesey rear good-quality cattle...

0:06:26 > 0:06:29- ..that are free of TB...

0:06:29 > 0:06:32- ..and that are as good as any cattle - anywhere in the world.

0:06:33 > 0:06:34- They can now demonstrate this.

0:06:35 > 0:06:38- It's definitely a step - in the right direction.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40- The other important thing...

0:06:40 > 0:06:45- ..is that they've recognized the - problem that exists in the wild.

0:06:45 > 0:06:48- Now that they've done that...

0:06:48 > 0:06:54- ..I hope we can build positively to - find a solution to the TB problem.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58- The consultation - closes on 10 January.

0:06:59 > 0:07:04- The Cabinet Secretary is encouraging - anyone with an interest to respond.

0:07:04 > 0:07:08- I think it's important that people - participate in the consultation.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11- That's what it's there for. - I'm not pre-empting anything.

0:07:12 > 0:07:15- I have no set ideas. I'm very - interested to hear people's views.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18- I don't think - I've been controversial.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21- I've ruled out - an England-style cull in Wales.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25- I think it's important that we keep - that evidence-based approach...

0:07:25 > 0:07:27- ..which we've always had.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31- I want to see a TB-free Wales - and I'm sure everybody else does...

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- ..particularly - in the farming sector.

0:07:40 > 0:07:44- Very often these days, farmers' sons - venture into all sorts of sectors...

0:07:44 > 0:07:46- ..to earn a living.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49- Often, the work - has nothing to do with agriculture.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52- But today, I've come to a farm - in Rhandirmwyn...

0:07:52 > 0:07:56- ..to meet a young farmer - who's discovered...

0:07:56 > 0:08:01- ..that his farming skills - come in handy on the rugby pitch.

0:08:01 > 0:08:07- The Llandovery players will not - be happy with the yellow card.

0:08:07 > 0:08:09- Wyn Jones goes for the line!

0:08:10 > 0:08:13- He turns. He looks as though - he's grounded the ball.

0:08:13 > 0:08:15- The Llandovery boys...

0:08:15 > 0:08:20- ..are convinced that - the Cilycwm farmer has scored a try.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29- Clynmawr near Cilycwm - is Wyn Jones' home.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32- This is where he developed - his skills as a rugby player.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35- The hard, physical work - he does on the farm...

0:08:35 > 0:08:40- ..has been an advantage to him - when playing as a loose-head prop...

0:08:40 > 0:08:43- ..first for Llandovery RFC - and then for the Scarlets.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48- I started out at Llandovery - playing for the Under 7s.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- I went up - through the various age groups...

0:08:51 > 0:08:55- ..from the Under 7s to the Under 16s - and then the youth team.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58- I then made it into the first team.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00- From there, I worked my way up.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- I've gone about it - the old-fashioned way!

0:09:04 > 0:09:05- That's the way.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09- When did the big moment come? - When did you play for the Scarlets?

0:09:10 > 0:09:14- I trained with them a little - before then so I was used to it.

0:09:14 > 0:09:20- I first played in an LV= game - about three or four seasons ago.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22- That's where it started.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26- Llandovery RFC have had - an excellent season as well.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29- Yes, we had a very good season - last year.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32- We did well in the league - and we won the cup.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34- It was a big thing for the club.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38- The last time we won it - was about ten years ago.

0:09:38 > 0:09:42- I remember watching it and thinking - I'd like to do that one day!

0:09:42 > 0:09:46- It was nice to be part of the team - that won it last year.

0:09:47 > 0:09:51- How has the farm helped your career?

0:09:53 > 0:09:57- As with all farms, - there's a lot of hard work involved.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00- That can be seen in my rugby.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03- You always have to work hard.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06- I've been used to working hard - from a young age...

0:10:07 > 0:10:09- ..so that's definitely a help.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15- Wyn farms with his parents, - Emyr and Heulwen Jones...

0:10:15 > 0:10:17- ..on a 400-acre farm.

0:10:18 > 0:10:23- They keep 50 crossbred - British Blue cattle and 650 sheep.

0:10:23 > 0:10:27- But as Wyn becomes more successful - on the rugby field...

0:10:27 > 0:10:31- ..responsibility for the farm - falls on his parents' shoulders.

0:10:31 > 0:10:36- Wyn has had a ball in his hand - as long as I can remember.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- He was always playing with a ball - with the neighbours.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43- They were always kicking a ball - or dealing with the sheep.

0:10:43 > 0:10:48- Being brought up on a farm prepares - you for something like rugby.

0:10:49 > 0:10:50- Oh, certainly.

0:10:50 > 0:10:54- I remember a Bluefaced ram - knocking Wyn to the floor...

0:10:54 > 0:10:56- ..when he was very little.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00- He got up, the ram knocked him over - again and he got straight back up.

0:11:01 > 0:11:06- You get used to taking blows - on a farm.

0:11:06 > 0:11:12- As a mother, how does it feel - to watch your son playing rugby?

0:11:12 > 0:11:14- I get very nervous.

0:11:14 > 0:11:18- I can't concentrate - on the game really.

0:11:18 > 0:11:20- I just watch Wyn.

0:11:21 > 0:11:25- What I'm most concerned about - is that he avoids getting injured.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29- I also want him to have a good game, - of course.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34- Wyn is lucky that you can both - keep things going on the farm.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37- It works quite well at the moment.

0:11:37 > 0:11:39- We're lucky - that we're in good health.

0:11:40 > 0:11:43- Wyn does help out as much as he can, - fair play.

0:11:43 > 0:11:47- He's a strong lad and can help with - a lot of the heavy work on the farm.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51- One of his main interests - has always been Suffolk sheep.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54- He has his own flock - of pedigree Suffolk sheep.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58- We rear our own rams - and we sell some as well.

0:11:59 > 0:12:02- Wyn has always enjoyed - working on the farm.

0:12:02 > 0:12:06- That's why he decided to study - Agriculture with Animal Science...

0:12:06 > 0:12:08- ..at Aberystwyth University.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13- It was always something I wanted to - do. That's where Dad went as well.

0:12:14 > 0:12:15- It had always been my goal.

0:12:15 > 0:12:18- Had you always wanted to farm?

0:12:18 > 0:12:22- Yes. Since I was a young lad, I - always wanted to come home to farm.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25- That was the first thing - I wanted to do.

0:12:25 > 0:12:30- The rugby has happened - through playing rugby.

0:12:30 > 0:12:34- I never thought - I'd be a full-time rugby player.

0:12:34 > 0:12:37- I always thought - I'd be a full-time farmer!

0:12:37 > 0:12:39- You have sheep and cattle here.

0:12:39 > 0:12:40- Which do you prefer?

0:12:40 > 0:12:42- Which do you prefer?- - I prefer sheep.

0:12:43 > 0:12:47- I don't know why I chose - Suffolk sheep when I was young.

0:12:47 > 0:12:52- But I love them. I have a little - flock and I really enjoy it.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56- At the moment, Emyr and Heulwen...

0:12:56 > 0:13:00- ..are very proud of Wyn's success - as a rugby player.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- But what does the future hold - at Clynmawr?

0:13:04 > 0:13:07- He'll come back to the farm, - without a doubt.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10- But whether he'll be here full-time, - we don't know.

0:13:10 > 0:13:14- The farm might not be large enough - for that.

0:13:14 > 0:13:19- He has other interests so maybe - he could follow up one of those too.

0:13:19 > 0:13:23- He really likes farming - but I'm not sure a farm like this...

0:13:24 > 0:13:26- ..will be able to sustain him - in the future.

0:13:26 > 0:13:31- But at the moment, the rugby - and farming complement each other.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34- Yes, certainly. - His heart is in both.

0:13:34 > 0:13:39- It's very nice for him to be able to - come back to the farm to switch off.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48- I'm sure you're both - very proud of him.

0:13:48 > 0:13:51- Oh, yes. We're very proud.

0:13:51 > 0:13:55- When he scored a try last year - to win the Swalec Cup...

0:13:55 > 0:13:57- ..we were extremely proud.

0:14:02 > 0:14:06- Which do you prefer at the moment - - the rugby or the farming?

0:14:07 > 0:14:10- At the moment, - rugby's the big thing.

0:14:11 > 0:14:16- Playing rugby professionally doesn't - last long - it's a short career.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19- There'll be plenty of time to farm - afterwards.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22- Rugby's the main thing - but I enjoy farming.

0:14:22 > 0:14:24- Will you come home to Clynmawr?

0:14:24 > 0:14:26- Will you come home to Clynmawr?- - Yes, I hope so.

0:14:26 > 0:14:30- That's what I always wanted to do. - That's why I went to Aberystwyth.

0:14:30 > 0:14:34- Hopefully one day, - that's what I will do.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36- At the moment, - Mam and Dad are at home...

0:14:37 > 0:14:38- ..and I help when I have a day off.

0:14:39 > 0:14:41- But I hope to be at home full-time - one day.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49- We'll take a short break now.

0:14:49 > 0:14:53- Join us shortly to hear our - second question in the competition.

0:14:53 > 0:14:58- And Daloni will be finding out more - about starting an egg business.

0:14:58 > 0:14:59- Don't go away!

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0:15:09 > 0:15:11- Welcome back.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13- There has been a recent increase...

0:15:13 > 0:15:17- ..in the number of people - who eat eggs and chicken.

0:15:17 > 0:15:21- New business opportunities - have arisen to meet those demands.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23- Daloni - met a husband and wife team...

0:15:24 > 0:15:28- ..who are venturing into - the industry at a very high level.

0:15:28 > 0:15:32- How do you go - from keeping 30 chickens...

0:15:32 > 0:15:38- ..to keeping 16,000 of them - in an enormous shed like this?

0:15:38 > 0:15:40- That's what's about to happen...

0:15:40 > 0:15:45- ..here at Parc Gwern-Nannau Farm - in Llangwm, near Cerrigydrudion.

0:15:45 > 0:15:49- One small business - is about to expand into a big one.

0:15:50 > 0:15:54- With the help of Agrisgop, - Arwel and Delyth Jones...

0:15:54 > 0:15:58- ..are starting an egg business - on their 56-acre farm.

0:15:58 > 0:16:01- They've both been keen - to work on the farm...

0:16:01 > 0:16:05- ..rather than being - in full-time jobs.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09- Because of a lack of land, that - hasn't been possible - until now.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13- Since we moved here - four years ago...

0:16:14 > 0:16:19- ..we've considered what we could do - to bring more into the business.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22- We've kept chickens for years.

0:16:22 > 0:16:26- We thought - it would be a good idea...

0:16:26 > 0:16:29- ..if we went into eggs.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31- That's how it all started.

0:16:31 > 0:16:35- There'll be 16,000 chickens here.

0:16:35 > 0:16:40- I've given up my job, - so I'll be at home full-time...

0:16:41 > 0:16:43- ..doing the day-to-day work.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47- It's a good location, Arwel, - not far from anywhere.

0:16:47 > 0:16:52- We're lucky to be by the road, - making it convenient for lorries...

0:16:53 > 0:16:57- ..to pick up the eggs - and to deliver feed.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00- Do you need a contract - to start such an enterprise?

0:17:01 > 0:17:04- The first thing we did - was look for a contract.

0:17:05 > 0:17:07- We've gone with Lloyd's.

0:17:07 > 0:17:11- We buy the chickens from them...

0:17:11 > 0:17:16- ..we buy the feed from them - and we sell the eggs back to them.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- Egg production as a business...

0:17:19 > 0:17:22- ..is worth over 39 million - in Wales every year...

0:17:23 > 0:17:28- ..and there's a growing demand here - for both eggs and chicks.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32- Elaine Rees organizes meetings...

0:17:32 > 0:17:36- ..with members of Agrisgop's - chicken group up to twice a month.

0:17:36 > 0:17:42- It's a chance for poultry farmers - to discuss all aspects of the job.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45- Where costs are concerned...

0:17:45 > 0:17:49- ..do you need a bucketful of money - to start an enterprise like this?

0:17:50 > 0:17:54- You must talk to your bank - and secure their support, I think.

0:17:54 > 0:18:00- It costs about half a million, - 500,000, to start up.

0:18:00 > 0:18:03- When will they start - to get some of that back?

0:18:03 > 0:18:06- They say that if you look - at the figures...

0:18:06 > 0:18:08- ..and talk to the bank...

0:18:08 > 0:18:12- ..that the bank likes - to make the money over ten years.

0:18:13 > 0:18:19- But it's a job to know - from one year to the next...

0:18:19 > 0:18:23- ..what the price of eggs will be - and what feed will cost.

0:18:24 > 0:18:25- But banks always say...

0:18:25 > 0:18:30- ..that they're comfortable - with loans over ten years.

0:18:30 > 0:18:34- What advice would you give - to anyone considering such a scheme?

0:18:35 > 0:18:37- Getting a contract - is very important.

0:18:37 > 0:18:41- Eggs and a big shed are useless - if there's nowhere for them to go.

0:18:42 > 0:18:46- And get support from the bank, - unless you have money under the bed!

0:18:47 > 0:18:50- No, you do need the bank behind you.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52- With the unit about to open...

0:18:52 > 0:18:56- ..Delyth has left her full-time job - at a local school...

0:18:57 > 0:18:59- ..to focus on chickens and eggs.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04- When is the first chicken - arriving here, Delyth?

0:19:04 > 0:19:07- The chickens are coming - on 1 November.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09- Are they? Not long now then!

0:19:09 > 0:19:11- Are they? Not long now then!- - No, it's not.

0:19:11 > 0:19:13- It'll be here before we turn around.

0:19:13 > 0:19:15- It'll be here before we turn around.- - And it's an enormous shed.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17- What are the dimensions?

0:19:17 > 0:19:19- It's 92 metres long.

0:19:20 > 0:19:22- Yes, it's quite long!

0:19:22 > 0:19:25- Would it have been hard - without Agrisgop's support?

0:19:26 > 0:19:29- Yes, it would have been much harder.

0:19:29 > 0:19:33- Arwel and I - are very grateful to Elaine.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36- She's helped us all along the way.

0:19:37 > 0:19:42- Without her, I don't think - we'd have got where we are today.

0:19:42 > 0:19:46- And you'll be here collecting eggs - from now on, Delyth!

0:19:46 > 0:19:50- Yes, and I'll need - to get into a routine quickly!

0:19:52 > 0:19:54- After the chickens arrive...

0:19:54 > 0:19:59- ..Arwel will still keep - about 100 Cheviot and Beulah sheep.

0:20:00 > 0:20:01- I'll still keep sheep.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04- I like being with sheep.

0:20:04 > 0:20:06- I even compete at some shows.

0:20:06 > 0:20:07- I even compete at some shows.- - Do you?

0:20:07 > 0:20:10- But you still work full-time.

0:20:10 > 0:20:13- Yes, I'm still a full-time builder.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17- Is keeping chickens - something you really want to do?

0:20:17 > 0:20:22- I've been thinking about it - for years, but now it's a reality.

0:20:22 > 0:20:24- And Delyth, clearly...

0:20:24 > 0:20:26- She's really looking forward to it.

0:20:26 > 0:20:28- She's really looking forward to it.- - She's very enthusiastic.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- Were there other options - on this land?

0:20:33 > 0:20:34- Not on this land, no.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37- This farm is so small.

0:20:37 > 0:20:42- I think this is the only way - we could have carried on farming.

0:20:43 > 0:20:44- And you're delighted.

0:20:44 > 0:20:45- And you're delighted.- - Yes, I am.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47- You get the best of three worlds!

0:20:47 > 0:20:48- You get the best of three worlds!- - Hopefully, yes.

0:20:53 > 0:20:57- Within a few days, there will be - 16,000 chickens on this land.

0:20:57 > 0:20:59- Do you know what?

0:20:59 > 0:21:00- I get the feeling...

0:21:01 > 0:21:05- ..that Delyth and Arwel - are fully invested in this scheme.

0:21:05 > 0:21:09- They're so passionate - about what they're doing.

0:21:09 > 0:21:14- You can't help - but wish them the best of luck.

0:21:17 > 0:21:18- So, this is the way forward.

0:21:19 > 0:21:21- Yes, certainly.

0:21:21 > 0:21:25- We've given it 100%...

0:21:25 > 0:21:28- ..and we're determined - to make it succeed.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32- For the next generation.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- For the next generation.- - For the next generation, yes.

0:21:34 > 0:21:39- To have something here to keep - the children in the countryside.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46- Pencil and paper at the ready!

0:21:46 > 0:21:50- Alun has the second question - in our competition.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- Trailer Competition

0:21:55 > 0:21:59- Once again this year, - we have three excellent prizes.

0:21:59 > 0:22:02- They've all been donated - by Ifor Williams Trailers.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07- The first prize - is the HB506 horsebox trailer...

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- ..worth 4,180 + VAT.

0:22:12 > 0:22:17- The second prize is the P8G trailer - worth 1,945 + VAT.

0:22:17 > 0:22:23- The third prize - is the P7e trailer worth 950 + VAT.

0:22:24 > 0:22:29- To win one of them, you will have - to answer five simple questions.

0:22:29 > 0:22:34- The first letter of each answer will - be an anagram of a five-letter word.

0:22:34 > 0:22:39- You'll need to send us that word - by 23 November.

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- Here is the second question.

0:22:43 > 0:22:47- A mechanical farmhand - in the milking parlour.

0:22:50 > 0:22:54- The details and rules of - the competition are on our website.

0:22:59 > 0:23:01- That's it for another week.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05- I've certainly enjoyed myself - here in Rhandirmwyn...

0:23:05 > 0:23:08- ..hearing about Wyn Jones, Clynmawr.

0:23:08 > 0:23:12- Remember that name because I'm sure - we'll hear it a lot in the future.

0:23:12 > 0:23:16- Until next time, - thank you for joining us. Goodbye.

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