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0:00:18 > 0:00:21- Hello and a warm welcome to Ffermio.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25- A milkman used to be - a familiar sight in our villages.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29- Over the years, - they've all but disappeared...
0:00:29 > 0:00:32- ..but this week I'm visiting - a family that is...
0:00:32 > 0:00:36- ..determined to carry on the - tradition in the Carmarthen area.
0:00:37 > 0:00:42- Daloni will be surrounded by poultry - of all shapes and sizes...
0:00:42 > 0:00:46- ..native Welsh breeds - of ducks, hens and geese.
0:00:46 > 0:00:50- Alun visits Alan Jones, - an expert in training sheepdogs...
0:00:50 > 0:00:53- ..who sells his dogs - for good prices.
0:00:53 > 0:00:57- We also hear farmers' responses - to the European referendum.
0:00:58 > 0:01:03- This pint of milk was still in the - cow's udders at 4.00am yesterday.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05- Since then, - the cow has been milked...
0:01:06 > 0:01:09- ..and the milk processed - and delivered to the customers.
0:01:10 > 0:01:14- There are only a small number - of farms providing this service.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18- One of them is Cwm Farm, - Cwmffrwd, Carmarthenshire.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- John Phillips founded the company - almost fifty years ago.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- His sons Dorian and Michael - also now work for the business.
0:01:33 > 0:01:37- I bought a small round - in the Llancwm area...
0:01:37 > 0:01:41- ..from a local man selling - about seventeen gallons per day.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43- That was 45 years ago.
0:01:44 > 0:01:45- The clock keeps turning.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48- How difficult was it back then - to sell milk?
0:01:49 > 0:01:53- Everyone was fighting over business - well not fighting...
0:01:53 > 0:01:55- ..but the competition was keen.
0:01:55 > 0:02:00- Doorstep delivery was strong - back then but things have changed.
0:02:00 > 0:02:04- You've done this for almost 50 - years. Do you feel tied to the job?
0:02:05 > 0:02:06- You are tied...
0:02:06 > 0:02:10- ..but if you left tomorrow's - delivery until the next day...
0:02:10 > 0:02:12- ..you'd lose your customers.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15- Hard work never killed anyone.
0:02:15 > 0:02:16- Hard work never killed anyone.- - I'm still here!
0:02:20 > 0:02:24- The family milk 90 Holstein cows - twice per day.
0:02:24 > 0:02:29- The milk is processed in the - dairy facing the milking parlour.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32- It was refurbished in 2008.
0:02:33 > 0:02:38- How have you profited from selling - directly to your customers?
0:02:38 > 0:02:41- It has helped to a certain extent...
0:02:41 > 0:02:45- ..with the industry being - in its current situation...
0:02:45 > 0:02:50- ..but there are additional costs - which we are having to bear.
0:02:51 > 0:02:55- How does the current situation - in the milk industry affect you?
0:02:56 > 0:03:01- We're competing with Wisemans - and the other big boys...
0:03:01 > 0:03:03- ..the processors.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- The more milk there is on the - market, the lower the price will be.
0:03:08 > 0:03:13- Because we haven't gone down that - route, we won't lose our customers.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15- Money talks.
0:03:15 > 0:03:19- The service you provide - is unique these days.
0:03:20 > 0:03:21- That's right.
0:03:22 > 0:03:26- I understand there are only - two businesses like this in Wales.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29- Sadly this service had died out.
0:03:30 > 0:03:34- I read an article in one of - the papers a little while ago...
0:03:34 > 0:03:38- ..that said there were only 900 - milkmen in the whole of Britain.
0:03:41 > 0:03:42- It's dying out.
0:03:43 > 0:03:45- This is a real family business.
0:03:46 > 0:03:52- That's right. Some days I'll only - see my father for 30 minutes.
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- Some days - I might not see Michael at all...
0:03:57 > 0:04:00- ..but we all know the score.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03- We all understand our role.
0:04:04 > 0:04:08- Everyone knuckles down and gets on - with the jobs that need to be done.
0:04:11 > 0:04:15- Most milk crosses - the border to be processed...
0:04:15 > 0:04:19- ..before returning to be sold - in our local supermarkets.
0:04:19 > 0:04:22- Here on Cwm Farm, - once the milk has been bottled...
0:04:23 > 0:04:25- ..it goes straight - to the customer.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32- When we started - we only sold bottles...
0:04:32 > 0:04:36- ..but with supermarkets - selling four pints for 1.00...
0:04:36 > 0:04:40- ..we had to change and bring in - cartons to compete with them.
0:04:41 > 0:04:43- It's lucky that we did that.
0:04:43 > 0:04:48- We lost a lot of customers at the - beginning but some have come back...
0:04:48 > 0:04:53- ..because our milk is totally - different to supermarket milk.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59- Our milk reaches the customers' - doorstep within 24-36 hours.
0:04:59 > 0:05:00- It's fresh.
0:05:01 > 0:05:05- That's the difference between - our milk and supermarket milk.
0:05:05 > 0:05:08- It has a better taste - and hasn't travelled far.
0:05:09 > 0:05:11- There has been a huge drop...
0:05:11 > 0:05:15- ..in the number of farmers that - provide this service - why is that?
0:05:16 > 0:05:17- Big companies have taken over.
0:05:18 > 0:05:21- They squeeze the farmers - whenever they can.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- Farmers can't compete any more.
0:05:24 > 0:05:26- Our business has been going - for 46 years..
0:05:27 > 0:05:29- ..but the last year has been hard.
0:05:29 > 0:05:31- Do you have fun on your round?
0:05:31 > 0:05:33- We have fun. - We make a lot of friends.
0:05:36 > 0:05:38- Our round covers a big area.
0:05:38 > 0:05:41- I keep an eye on things - if people are away on holiday.
0:05:42 > 0:05:46- I help them if they want to move - furniture or put the rubbish out.
0:05:47 > 0:05:50- If they support me, - I'll support them.
0:05:50 > 0:05:53- You have good cream. It's special.
0:05:53 > 0:05:56- It's not too bad, it'll fill a coat!
0:05:58 > 0:06:03- I couldn't ask for more. Everything - I need is brought to my door.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06- He brings my newspaper every day.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- He spoils you.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- That's right. He gets cake from me.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14- Perks of the job.
0:06:15 > 0:06:16- Oh, I see.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20- This is the best milk - in the world...
0:06:20 > 0:06:23- ..from his very own cows.
0:06:24 > 0:06:26- This milk is better than beer.
0:06:29 > 0:06:32- The family have worked hard - over the years...
0:06:32 > 0:06:35- ..to earn the respect - and loyalty of their customers.
0:06:36 > 0:06:40- This fresh, local milk - certainly hits the spot.
0:06:41 > 0:06:43- Over the years we've expanded.
0:06:44 > 0:06:46- We started with 40 cows.
0:06:46 > 0:06:50- Now we milk 90 cows - and we have over 500 customers.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53- What has been - your biggest challenge?
0:06:54 > 0:06:55- Supermarkets really hit us.
0:06:56 > 0:07:01- They started selling four pints of - milk for 1.00. We had to change.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- We moved into cartons. - That's what most people buy.
0:07:05 > 0:07:09- Some prefer the taste of bottled - milk but it's more expensive.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12- Is there a future - for the small family farm?
0:07:13 > 0:07:15- We hope so.
0:07:16 > 0:07:20- The farm is here, - the herd is over there...
0:07:20 > 0:07:23- ..we don't take milk - from anywhere else...
0:07:23 > 0:07:26- ..so Cwm Farm milk - comes from here.
0:07:26 > 0:07:29- It's from the cattle in there - and nowhere else.
0:07:29 > 0:07:33- We could expand and buy in milk - but it wouldn't taste the same.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36- We want to keep it fresh - with milk from this valley.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42- Last week the NFU held their - annual conference in Birmingham.
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- Topics discussed included - TB and the Basic Payments Scheme.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52- Another obvious talking point - was the European referendum.
0:07:55 > 0:07:59- 1,400 farmers gathered together - in Birmingham's ICC.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- Some 100 of those - were Welsh farmers.
0:08:03 > 0:08:07- A question and answer session - had been arranged by NFU Cymru.
0:08:07 > 0:08:11- Three senior Welsh Government - civil servants were on the panel.
0:08:11 > 0:08:15- The referendum date - had just been announced...
0:08:15 > 0:08:18- ..and a full hall listened - to arguments between...
0:08:19 > 0:08:23- ..Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan - who supports leaving the EU...
0:08:23 > 0:08:27- ..and George Lyons, a member of the - Britain Stronger in Europe group.
0:08:28 > 0:08:33- What did Welsh farmers think - after listening to both sides?
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- I enjoyed listening to - the arguments.
0:08:37 > 0:08:41- They were quite skilful in the way - they put their views across.
0:08:42 > 0:08:44- I'm not going to make - a decision yet.
0:08:45 > 0:08:49- I want to see the arguments - developing and hear the true facts.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52- I'm still sitting on the fence - at the moment.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- I'm not sure how we would profit - by leaving.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58- Would more of us benefit - by staying in?
0:08:59 > 0:09:06- The YFC is going to present the - facts to young people to consider.
0:09:06 > 0:09:10- Hopefully this will make them aware - of both sides of the issue...
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- ..and then they can make - their own decision.
0:09:13 > 0:09:17- I thought both sides - presented their argument well.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19- It was an interesting session.
0:09:20 > 0:09:24- Before today I would have said - I would vote to stay in...
0:09:24 > 0:09:28- ..but now I'm less certain.
0:09:29 > 0:09:34- Daniel Hannan can promise the world - to us if we vote to leave Europe.
0:09:35 > 0:09:41- He was talking about farmers - receiving grants of 90 per acre.
0:09:41 > 0:09:45- They can say what they like. We'll - never see payments of 90 per acre.
0:09:46 > 0:09:50- We can forget that. - He's just trying to tempt us.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54- Unfortunately - we have to stay in Europe...
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- ..because that's where the trade is.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00- 90% of our red meat exports - go to Europe.
0:10:01 > 0:10:07- We can't afford uncertainty in the - industry, especially at this time.
0:10:07 > 0:10:11- The unfortunate thing - about our industry...
0:10:11 > 0:10:16- ..is that we have the least say - but we are affected the most.
0:10:16 > 0:10:21- We all know there are advantages and - disadvantages to being in Europe.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- We pay in more than we receive - but it is a market for our produce.
0:10:25 > 0:10:29- Our food is secured by set rules - and there is traceability.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32- It gives our produce its quality.
0:10:32 > 0:10:37- I think everyone is uncertain - about the future of agriculture...
0:10:37 > 0:10:38- ..if we do leave Europe.
0:10:39 > 0:10:43- We need to be given clear facts - about what will happen.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- We're stepping into the unknown.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- If we don't know - what we're voting for...
0:10:49 > 0:10:52- ..there's no point - in voting at all.
0:10:53 > 0:10:55- The NFU and the FUW will hold...
0:10:55 > 0:10:57- ..a number of events...
0:10:57 > 0:11:00- ..over the coming weeks...
0:11:00 > 0:11:02- ..to give farmers...
0:11:02 > 0:11:04- ..as much information as possible...
0:11:05 > 0:11:08- ..before they vote on June 23rd.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11- That's all for part one.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14- Join us after the break - to see Alun in his seventh heaven...
0:11:15 > 0:11:18- ..when he meets the breeder of - Wales' most expensive sheepdog.
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0:11:29 > 0:11:32- We are all used to hearing...
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- ..about native Welsh breeds - of sheep and cattle.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- A breeder in North Wales...
0:11:39 > 0:11:43- ..is enthusiastic over protecting - breeds of birds.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47- From the Welsh Harlequin ducks - to the Brecon Buff geese.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55- Rhys Llewelyn is a teacher - at a Bangor primary school.
0:11:55 > 0:11:57- On evenings and weekends...
0:11:57 > 0:12:02- ..his world is all about the ducks, - hens and geese in Rhoshirwaun.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05- He's had national success - with his breeding and competing.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10- I've been to a lot of shows - over the last year.
0:12:10 > 0:12:14- I got a first place - with my Welsh Harlequin duck...
0:12:14 > 0:12:17- ..at the National Poultry Show - in Telford in November.
0:12:17 > 0:12:19- That was a first in Britain.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21- That was a first in Britain.- - In that breed, yes.
0:12:21 > 0:12:25- I competed in Haverfordwest - in January.
0:12:26 > 0:12:28- I competed with - a trio of Harlequins.
0:12:28 > 0:12:33- I won the Trio Championship - which I wasn't expecting.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36- What is the history - of the Harlequin breed?
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- The breed originates - from Criccieth.
0:12:39 > 0:12:45- In 1949, a man named Bonnet created - the breed from Khaki Campbells.
0:12:46 > 0:12:49- People are familiar - with Khaki Campbells.
0:12:50 > 0:12:52- They are a rare breed.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57- By now, a lot of people keep them. - They're very striking.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00- Their colours stand out. - I keep them because I'm from Lleyn.
0:13:01 > 0:13:02- Who's this, Rhys?
0:13:02 > 0:13:05- As you can see, this one - is a Harlequin cockerel.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08- He won for me in Haverfordwest - in January.
0:13:08 > 0:13:12- As you can see, - his beak is a yellowish green.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- The hen's beak - is the colour of slate.
0:13:15 > 0:13:19- The male's feet are orange.
0:13:20 > 0:13:24- The female's feet are again - a darker, slate colour.
0:13:25 > 0:13:29- It's important when you look at it - for the lacing to be perfect...
0:13:29 > 0:13:31- ..and for the feathers to match.
0:13:32 > 0:13:33- Can we see the hen?
0:13:33 > 0:13:36- Yes, of course.
0:13:41 > 0:13:42- Oh, she's pretty.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45- Hello.
0:13:46 > 0:13:49- This duck won - in two big shows last year.
0:13:49 > 0:13:50- How old is she?
0:13:51 > 0:13:54- She's two years old, - she'll be three this year.
0:13:59 > 0:14:01- He has another breed of ducks here.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- They're called Magpies.
0:14:03 > 0:14:07- They are a Welsh breed. - They come from South Wales.
0:14:07 > 0:14:10- There isn't as much information - available about them...
0:14:10 > 0:14:13- ..as there is about the Harlequin.
0:14:14 > 0:14:17- I went down to Devon - two years ago to buy some.
0:14:17 > 0:14:20- I got some more - elsewhere last year.
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- There are birds - in every corner here.
0:14:28 > 0:14:32- The most noisy and possibly the most - graceful are the geese.
0:14:32 > 0:14:34- These are the Brecon Buffs.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- They are another Welsh breed - from South Wales.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40- A man who shares my name...
0:14:40 > 0:14:41- A man who shares my name...- - Really?
0:14:41 > 0:14:43- An utter coincidence!
0:14:43 > 0:14:46- Rhys Llewellyn - created the breed in 1929.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48- I think it was down near Swansea.
0:14:48 > 0:14:53- So they're from Swansea - but they're named for Brecon.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56- I think there's a connection - with the two areas.
0:14:56 > 0:14:59- I'm not sure - what the exact details were.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01- There's a nest here with two eggs.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04- I have a chick - that hatched yesterday.
0:15:05 > 0:15:07- What will you do with these?
0:15:07 > 0:15:11- I may stick them under - the gold tops next door.
0:15:11 > 0:15:13- They have a few eggs.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16- It's too early for the geese - to sit on the eggs.
0:15:16 > 0:15:18- There's not much hay outside.
0:15:18 > 0:15:21- It's easier to have the chickens - to sit on them.
0:15:21 > 0:15:24- Rhys breeds for exhibitions.
0:15:24 > 0:15:28- Hours of preparation go into - preening and pampering the birds...
0:15:28 > 0:15:30- ..to make sure - they're at their best.
0:15:30 > 0:15:33- You clearly enjoy breeding - Welsh poultry.
0:15:34 > 0:15:38- Yes, I've been very enthusiastic for - the Welsh language over the years.
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- I think that's - an important part of me.
0:15:41 > 0:15:44- Once I found out these - breeds were Welsh...
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- ..I was dying - to get my hands on them.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48- That's why I keep them.
0:15:48 > 0:15:50- That's why I keep them.- - Talk about the society you started.
0:15:50 > 0:15:55- Around two and a half years ago, I - and two ladies from South Wales...
0:15:55 > 0:15:59- ..who also keep Harlequins - came together to form a society.
0:15:59 > 0:16:04- It isn't an official society - where people pay to be members.
0:16:05 > 0:16:09- They join through the website. - By now, there are over 100 of us.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13- I think it's around 110 members - from all across the world.
0:16:13 > 0:16:19- There are members in the USA, New - Zealand and a host of other places.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22- I think there are members - in Italy who keep Harlequins.
0:16:24 > 0:16:29- It's clear that Rhys gets great - pleasure breeding Welsh poultry.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31- What next for you, Rhys?
0:16:32 > 0:16:33- I'm not sure.
0:16:33 > 0:16:35- I'll raise the birds.
0:16:35 > 0:16:39- Hopefully, they'll turn out - to be what I want them to be.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43- I've got a lot of work to do - with the Brecon Buffs and Magpies.
0:16:44 > 0:16:45- They are more recent breeds.
0:16:46 > 0:16:50- I enjoy going around Britain and - meeting people. It's fun for me.
0:16:51 > 0:16:55- I don't take it too seriously, - it's just a social thing.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58- I meet people - from all walks of life.
0:16:59 > 0:17:03- It's just a nice social community.
0:17:06 > 0:17:10- We're used to hearing about rams - and bulls selling for good prices.
0:17:11 > 0:17:13- In a recent sale near Bala...
0:17:13 > 0:17:17- ..a female sheepdog sold - for a record price in Wales.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21- Alun has been to Nasareth - in Caernarfon to meet the breeder...
0:17:21 > 0:17:25- ..to discover - the secret behind raising good dogs.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31- Alan Jones is well known - in sheepdog circles.
0:17:31 > 0:17:35- He's sold dogs in the Netherlands, - Scotland and the USA.
0:17:36 > 0:17:39- Despite taking a seven-year break - from sales...
0:17:39 > 0:17:41- ..he made his mark recently...
0:17:41 > 0:17:47- ..when he sold his bitch, Tess, - for 7,560 last November.
0:17:50 > 0:17:53- First off, Alan, congratulations.
0:17:53 > 0:17:59- You broke the Welsh record. Did you - expect that on the day in Bala?
0:17:59 > 0:18:02- No, it didn't cross my mind.
0:18:02 > 0:18:06- I knew Tess was a good dog - and was worth a good price.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09- I never thought she'd fetch - that much money.
0:18:09 > 0:18:13- Tess has an interesting character.
0:18:13 > 0:18:14- Yes, absolutely.
0:18:15 > 0:18:17- That was her strength, really.
0:18:17 > 0:18:19- She was a bitch with a good nature.
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- She had a natural aptitude - for dealing with sheep.
0:18:22 > 0:18:26- She was a strong bitch, - always a step ahead of the sheep.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31- That type of dog frequently - struggles to listen or stop.
0:18:31 > 0:18:35- She had a good ear - and listened well.
0:18:35 > 0:18:36- She's obedient.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39- What's Tess' lineage?
0:18:39 > 0:18:40- She was raised here.
0:18:40 > 0:18:44- She's part of a breed - I've had now for over 20 years.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- They suit me, - I've been lucky in a way.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52- I've been able to breed - the type of dogs people look for.
0:18:52 > 0:18:56- Hardy dogs with fire in their belly. - Dogs who give as good as they get.
0:18:56 > 0:19:00- I like that type of dog.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04- That's the foundation.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09- They need the right training then. - The first few weeks are critical.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11- There's hope after that.
0:19:11 > 0:19:16- Who was the Mr Procter who was brave - enough to buy her for such a price?
0:19:16 > 0:19:20- He's from Cumbria, - near Kirkby Stephen.
0:19:20 > 0:19:23- He's a mountain farmer - and a sheep farmer.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- He has an interest in breeding dogs.
0:19:27 > 0:19:31- He wanted to run a few trials - but mostly, she's for work.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36- I hear you'd been selling at home - for a few years.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38- There was something - special about Tess.
0:19:38 > 0:19:41- I didn't really know - what her value was.
0:19:41 > 0:19:44- That is why I decided - to take her to market.
0:19:44 > 0:19:48- As we all know, - a market is good for two things.
0:19:48 > 0:19:52- It's a good shop window - and it can produce fair prices.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57- That's why I took Tess to Bala.
0:20:00 > 0:20:04- Alan keeps 650 - Welsh Mountain Sheep on 320 acres.
0:20:04 > 0:20:07- Half his flock - is crossed with Texels.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12- He also keeps suckler cows, - most of which are Limousin crosses.
0:20:12 > 0:20:16- The sheepdogs are Alan's delight.
0:20:19 > 0:20:23- Here they are. - You keep them in a tidy shed.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26- I try to look after them - as much as I can.
0:20:26 > 0:20:28- I try to make sure - they have clean saw dust.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33- What is your favourite kind of dog?
0:20:33 > 0:20:35- You have two types of dog here.
0:20:35 > 0:20:36- You have two types of dog here.- - Yes, I do.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41- I like a short, smart dog.
0:20:42 > 0:20:44- I think the word - I'd use is athletic.
0:20:44 > 0:20:46- That's the kind of dog I like.
0:20:47 > 0:20:48- Sharp, quick dogs.
0:20:49 > 0:20:51- This is Bob. He is Tess' father.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55- He was a tough dog to train. - It took a lot of work.
0:20:57 > 0:20:59- I could see a bit of light - at the end of the tunnel.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03- He was good enough - that I was willing to wait.
0:21:03 > 0:21:09- It's important with harder dogs - to give them time to learn.
0:21:09 > 0:21:13- It's also important not to take - their spark away from them.
0:21:13 > 0:21:18- Now we come to what is essentially - the queen, Tess's mother.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20- What's her name?
0:21:20 > 0:21:21- What's her name?- - She's called Lily.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25- What's her situation? Are you going - to breed more from her?
0:21:26 > 0:21:27- Absolutely.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32- I'm hoping she's got a litter, - it's a bit early to say at present.
0:21:32 > 0:21:36- She's done a month, hopefully, - she'll have a litter in March.
0:21:36 > 0:21:40- I'm hoping to get more dogs - out of her in the long run.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46- From time to time, - Alan buys a young bitch.
0:21:46 > 0:21:49- He uses Roxy for everyday work.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53- The blue-eyed dog works well.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55- Yes, she's a handy bitch.
0:21:55 > 0:21:58- She'll work for a few more years - hopefully.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01- Did you buy her at a young age?
0:22:01 > 0:22:03- She was about - five or six months old.
0:22:04 > 0:22:05- So you've taught her.
0:22:05 > 0:22:06- So you've taught her.- - Yes, I taught her.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11- Training dogs is an - early morning or evening job...
0:22:11 > 0:22:14- ..when farm work keeps you busy - from day to day.
0:22:14 > 0:22:18- There's a busy period ahead - with lambing coming up soon.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21- These all have one lamb in them.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- Do you bring them in to a shed?
0:22:24 > 0:22:26- No, we lamb outdoors.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28- With cross-texels?
0:22:28 > 0:22:31- No, the texels are hardy enough.
0:22:31 > 0:22:34- They're Welsh cross too - so they're hardy.
0:22:36 > 0:22:37- When do you start lambing?
0:22:37 > 0:22:38- When do you start lambing?- - We start in mid-March.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- When did you start training dogs?
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- Where did you learn to do it?
0:22:49 > 0:22:53- I've been interested in it - since I was at school.
0:22:53 > 0:22:55- After I finished school...
0:22:55 > 0:23:00- ..my interest grew and I bought a - dog from a sale at Llanerch-y-medd.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03- The dog was half taught - by the late Huw Davies.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- I didn't know much about dogs - to be honest.
0:23:08 > 0:23:10- I just had an interest in them.
0:23:10 > 0:23:12- I learned a lot from that.
0:23:12 > 0:23:15- I learned as I went on, - you can't beat experience.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19- That's it for today.
0:23:19 > 0:23:23- It's nice to see signs of spring - filling the world.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26- We'll be back - at the same time next week.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30- Until then, thanks for your company - and goodnight.
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