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0:00:17 > 0:00:19- Hello and welcome to Ffermio.
0:00:19 > 0:00:23- I'm in Oxford for the annual - Oxford Farming Conference.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28- It's a chance to discuss the future - direction of the industry.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32- Where better to find inspiration - in the new year...
0:00:32 > 0:00:34- ..than in this city of learning?
0:00:36 > 0:00:39- There are guest speakers - from all over the world.
0:00:39 > 0:00:45- We'll get the impressions - of delegates and speakers...
0:00:45 > 0:00:51- ..including Neil Perkins - and Aled Jones from Wales.
0:00:51 > 0:00:54- Later, Meinir is in Llangyndeyrn...
0:00:54 > 0:00:58- ..meeting Mary Richards, - the recipient of a special award.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- Before we start debating, - Daloni looks at a topic...
0:01:04 > 0:01:07- ..which starts almost - every conversation between farmers.
0:01:08 > 0:01:11- It's also very appropriate - at the start of this year.
0:01:11 > 0:01:14- Yes, you've guessed it. The weather.
0:01:15 > 0:01:18- The world has witnessed - some extreme weather recently.
0:01:19 > 0:01:23- Fires in Australia, droughts - in Africa, a tornado in Texas...
0:01:23 > 0:01:28- ..and Storms Desmond, Eva - and Frank here in Britain.
0:01:28 > 0:01:34- December 2015 was the wettest - and the warmest since records began.
0:01:35 > 0:01:39- So, what effect does this - severe weather have on farming...
0:01:39 > 0:01:42- ..and more specifically, - farm animals?
0:01:44 > 0:01:50- In Llanrwst in early December, - the community spirit was evident.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- A local vet, members of the RSPCA...
0:01:53 > 0:01:58- ..the Ogwen mountain rescue team - and local residents joined forces...
0:01:58 > 0:02:02- ..to help Paul Williams - of Cae Haidd Farm, Nebo...
0:02:02 > 0:02:06- ..as he tried to save 170 sheep - that were at risk of drowning.
0:02:07 > 0:02:12- I received a flood watch phone call - at 12.50am.
0:02:12 > 0:02:16- I went down - to round them up with the dogs.
0:02:16 > 0:02:19- By the time - I got to the gates into the shed...
0:02:19 > 0:02:22- ..the gates - were in three feet of water.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25- All I could do - at that time of the morning...
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- ..was to move them - to the highest point...
0:02:29 > 0:02:31- ..leave them and hope for the best.
0:02:31 > 0:02:37- I returned at ten the next morning - and they were all there.
0:02:37 > 0:02:40- They were standing together.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- I then turned for home, - but as I left...
0:02:44 > 0:02:49- ..I heard the most terrible sound - of water coming from somewhere.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52- I turned around, - and within seconds...
0:02:52 > 0:02:55- ..there were 170 sheep - swimming in water.
0:02:55 > 0:02:57- What had happened?
0:02:57 > 0:03:01- I found out later - that what probably happened...
0:03:01 > 0:03:04- ..was that as the tide - came up the river...
0:03:04 > 0:03:09- ..the river came over the embankment - higher up the valley.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12- This caused - what's called a bow wave.
0:03:12 > 0:03:18- A river was flowing - on the other side of the embankment.
0:03:18 > 0:03:22- It all came down as one river - and swept them off their feet.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25- What did you do?
0:03:25 > 0:03:30- I ran back and went to tell - the local vet what had happened...
0:03:30 > 0:03:34- ..and to ask if they knew of anyone - with a boat who could help.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- I returned within the hour.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41- By then, Trading Standards - and the RSPCA had arrived.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47- I could still see the sheep - drowning one by one.
0:03:47 > 0:03:51- I decided to swim to them - and see what I could do.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55- Luckily, the local vet, - Eilidh, swam across.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01- She was able to tend - to the ones I had pulled out.
0:04:02 > 0:04:05- By then, - they were in a wretched state.
0:04:06 > 0:04:08- We were there for a long time.
0:04:09 > 0:04:14- I think we were at it - from 1.00pm until 7.00pm...
0:04:14 > 0:04:19- ..dragging the sheep from the water - and trying to keep them alive.
0:04:19 > 0:04:21- We managed to save 106 of them.
0:04:21 > 0:04:27- Did you consider moving them from - the fields before the floods hit?
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- I think we moved them a dozen times - over a period of two weeks...
0:04:32 > 0:04:33- ..to the safety of the shed.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- But as it happens, - this time I was unlucky...
0:04:38 > 0:04:41- ..and couldn't reach them in time.
0:04:42 > 0:04:45- With the ground so wet, - the sheep are suffering...
0:04:46 > 0:04:50- ..during a crucial period - in the run-up to lambing.
0:04:50 > 0:04:55- Robert Ellis is an animal feed - expert for Bibby Agriculture.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59- What does he think farmers should do - to help their flocks?
0:04:59 > 0:05:04- The problem is that the grass - in the fields is so wet.
0:05:04 > 0:05:09- The water in the pasture - isn't enough to sustain them.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13- They need some concentrated feed...
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- ..to give them energy - to produce colostrum.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19- Over the next eight to ten weeks...
0:05:19 > 0:05:22- ..it's vital that they get - nutrition and vitamins.
0:05:22 > 0:05:26- In the period - when they start to get silage...
0:05:26 > 0:05:30- ..instead of putting them indoors, - you can give them blocks.
0:05:30 > 0:05:33- They contain - all the necessary elements.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35- When you get closer to lambing...
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- ..the sheep's stomach is squashed - as the lamb grows.
0:05:39 > 0:05:43- You have to give them - concentrated feed.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46- You can ease the burden - with these blocks.
0:05:47 > 0:05:51- They can then sustain - their lambs properly.
0:05:55 > 0:06:01- Naturalist and historian Twm Elias - closely monitors weather patterns.
0:06:01 > 0:06:06- The trouble is that we have to cope - with the effects of El Nino.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- I'm sure you've heard of El Nino.
0:06:08 > 0:06:13- It's an incredible weather pattern - that occurs in the southern Pacific.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17- What has been happening recently...
0:06:17 > 0:06:22- ..is that the jet stream has, - more or less, been stuck in a rut.
0:06:22 > 0:06:26- It flows at high speed - from a southwesterly direction...
0:06:26 > 0:06:30- ..bringing with it - storm after storm after storm.
0:06:30 > 0:06:34- It has been incessant - since early November.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36- Events in the Pacific...
0:06:36 > 0:06:40- ..are the big engine - driving all these currents.
0:06:40 > 0:06:46- Over the next 50-100 years, - that will gradually increase.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49- This is the problem - with global warming.
0:06:50 > 0:06:51- It creates these effects...
0:06:52 > 0:06:56- ..and more or less destroys - the natural balance and pattern...
0:06:56 > 0:07:00- ..of the climate - upon which we are so reliant.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07- So, this is where you were...
0:07:08 > 0:07:12- ..on the fields - near Gower Bridge, Llanrwst...
0:07:12 > 0:07:14- ..on that horrendous night.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18- Do you worry - that such a loss could occur again?
0:07:19 > 0:07:21- It could certainly occur again.
0:07:22 > 0:07:23- It's nature.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27- You can't prevent it - and you can't change it.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- Rainwater flows into this valley...
0:07:29 > 0:07:34- ..from Capel Curig, Dolwyddelan, - Pentrefoelas and Hiraethog.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37- You certainly can't stop - that much water.
0:07:37 > 0:07:39- Nature's in control.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- Nature's in control.- - Yes, without any doubt.
0:07:41 > 0:07:43- Unfortunately, nature wins too.
0:07:47 > 0:07:51- The theme of this year's conference - in Oxford is Bold Agriculture.
0:07:51 > 0:07:55- Given that 2015 was a critical year - for the industry...
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- ..what will be the message - of today's speakers?
0:08:06 > 0:08:10- One honorary speaker - here this year...
0:08:10 > 0:08:14- ..is sheep farmer Neil Perkins - from Dinas Island, Pembrokeshire.
0:08:15 > 0:08:19- He spoke about unlocking performance - with data collection.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- This information is all linked - to the grazing paddocks...
0:08:24 > 0:08:26- ..through our grazing diary.
0:08:26 > 0:08:28- This gives us performance figures...
0:08:28 > 0:08:31- ..of not just the animals - but the fields as well.
0:08:32 > 0:08:36- Neil, how much of an honour is it - to address the Oxford Farming Union?
0:08:37 > 0:08:42- It's one of the biggest things - I've had to do in my life, really.
0:08:42 > 0:08:46- Presenting is not something I do - on a day-to-day basis.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49- My message, basically...
0:08:49 > 0:08:53- ..is that yes, times are hard - with farming at the moment...
0:08:53 > 0:08:57- ..but there are things you can do - to try to keep on top of the game.
0:08:57 > 0:09:02- Demonstrating that by collecting - data and analysing what you do...
0:09:02 > 0:09:05- ..you can get rid - of the underperformers...
0:09:05 > 0:09:07- ..and exploit the best things - on your farm.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- Have you had some response - to what you said?
0:09:11 > 0:09:13- Did it go down well?
0:09:13 > 0:09:16- I've had quite a few people - coming up and collaring me.
0:09:16 > 0:09:18- This was my ten minutes of fame!
0:09:19 > 0:09:22- A lot of people have tried - to milk some more information.
0:09:22 > 0:09:26- I hope I've given an insight - into our farm system.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28- Thank you for listening.
0:09:28 > 0:09:33- After the break, - some fervent debating in Oxford...
0:09:33 > 0:09:37- ..and Meinir meets a lecturer - at Gelli Aur College...
0:09:37 > 0:09:40- ..who has won an award for her work.
0:09:40 > 0:09:41- Don't go far.
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0:09:53 > 0:09:56- Welcome back to Oxford.
0:09:56 > 0:10:01- Since the Oxford Farming Conference - was founded in 1938...
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- ..hundreds of famous names - have spoken here at the Union.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- This year, a Welshman's name - is added to the list...
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- ..Aled Jones from Llandeilo.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22- Mr President, - my lords, ladies and gentlemen.
0:10:22 > 0:10:27- The Scots opened the batting - tonight, followed by the Welsh...
0:10:27 > 0:10:31- ..with the English last, - as they were in the rugby.
0:10:31 > 0:10:34- Aled, a farmer's son - from Tyllwyd, Cwrtycadno...
0:10:34 > 0:10:39- ..is the Royal Welsh Agricultural - Society's assistant chief executive.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- At the end of the first day, - a debate is held...
0:10:43 > 0:10:45- ..with Aled seconding the motion...
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- ..that agriculture - is an equal opportunities industry.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- I concur with his view - that opportunity is not given.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56- Opportunity is missed - by most people...
0:10:56 > 0:11:00- ..when it is dressed up in overalls - and looks too much like work.
0:11:02 > 0:11:04- Opportunity - requires effort and graft.
0:11:04 > 0:11:09- As highlighted in this afternoon's - paper, they are not given away.
0:11:09 > 0:11:12- Therefore, what is equal?
0:11:12 > 0:11:16- You'd be wrong to think that - equal is a set of circumstances...
0:11:16 > 0:11:21- ..where everyone should have access - to the same material wealth, land...
0:11:21 > 0:11:25- ..assets and resources in an - ideology of achieving equal results.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28- We are not arguing - about equality of outcome.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31- Tonight's motion - is about equality of opportunity.
0:11:32 > 0:11:37- I argued that the industry - does offer equal opportunities.
0:11:37 > 0:11:42- I wanted to emphasize that you - must work for those opportunities.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- For the person - with the right talents and skills...
0:11:46 > 0:11:49- ..the industry - can offer equal opportunities.
0:11:49 > 0:11:54- With confidence, ability - and fire in your belly...
0:11:54 > 0:11:56- ..then anything is possible.
0:11:56 > 0:12:00- That's what I was trying - to reinforce tonight.
0:12:01 > 0:12:05- You were seconding the motion - put forward by Michael Blanche.
0:12:05 > 0:12:07- Had you met him before?
0:12:08 > 0:12:13- I hadn't met him until - a couple of weeks ago in Edinburgh.
0:12:13 > 0:12:18- We'd had a few chats on the phone - as to what we might say today.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22- We got on well - and it was a team effort in the end.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25- I think it went quite well.
0:12:26 > 0:12:31- You have a choice - between optimism and pessimism...
0:12:31 > 0:12:34- ..between confidence and doubt...
0:12:34 > 0:12:37- ..between being bold - and being fearful.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39- I hope you make the right choice.
0:12:42 > 0:12:48- We've just heard that you did win - the debate and the vote tonight.
0:12:49 > 0:12:50- How does that feel?
0:12:51 > 0:12:56- It's great. It was amazing to debate - an issue in such a famous venue.
0:12:56 > 0:13:00- To win the day - and get the motion passed...
0:13:00 > 0:13:03- ..at this ancient, - respected venue is awesome.
0:13:03 > 0:13:07- Do you know what I heard? - "The Welshman won it."
0:13:07 > 0:13:09- I'm not sure about that...
0:13:09 > 0:13:13- ..but I enjoyed it after getting - over some serious early nerves.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17- Having the opportunity - was a huge thrill.
0:13:20 > 0:13:24- We've just heard about - equal opportunities in agriculture.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26- This week, Meinir met a woman...
0:13:27 > 0:13:30- ..who has influenced - several generations of farmers.
0:13:32 > 0:13:33- Farming isn't easy.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38- Doing it while holding down - another full-time job...
0:13:38 > 0:13:41- ..demands - a very special kind of person.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45- Today, I'm meeting someone - who does just that.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49- If that wasn't enough, - she's also won an award this year...
0:13:50 > 0:13:52- ..the CollegesWales - Teacher of the Year award.
0:14:05 > 0:14:11- Mary Richards - runs Llandre Farm in Llangyndeyrn.
0:14:11 > 0:14:15- She has played a leading role - in agriculture from an early age.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18- She's now assistant head - of Landbased Studies...
0:14:18 > 0:14:21- ..at the Gelli Aur campus - of Coleg Sir Gar.
0:14:22 > 0:14:25- Well, Mary, - CollegesWales Teacher of the Year.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- How much of an honour - was winning that title?
0:14:29 > 0:14:30- It was beyond an honour.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- I couldn't believe - that I'd been nominated.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- I've taught at Gelli Aur - for over 17 years...
0:14:37 > 0:14:40- ..and at Ystalyfera - for seven years prior to that.
0:14:41 > 0:14:42- I couldn't believe it.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46- They came to interview me - and that kind of thing.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49- When I went to Llandudno, - it was like the Oscars!
0:14:49 > 0:14:53- I didn't have a clue - until they read my name out.
0:14:53 > 0:14:55- There are so many - good teachers in Wales...
0:14:56 > 0:15:01- ..and it recognized the work - we do at Gelli Aur College.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04- The day and the evening - were beyond fantastic.
0:15:05 > 0:15:08- You live and breathe your job, - and you enjoy it.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11- Yes. Yes, I do.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16- I'm one of those lucky people whose - interests and line of work overlaps.
0:15:17 > 0:15:21- I love animals, I love farming - and I love teaching.
0:15:21 > 0:15:23- That's what I do at Gelli Aur.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26- I've started a new management job.
0:15:26 > 0:15:27- Every day...
0:15:27 > 0:15:33- ..I feel silly saying this, but it's - an honour to go to work every day.
0:15:33 > 0:15:35- I live my work, and I love it.
0:15:35 > 0:15:37- It's also a responsibility.
0:15:38 > 0:15:42- You and the college are nurturing - the next generation of farmers.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- Definitely, and I never forget that.
0:15:45 > 0:15:50- They come to us aged 16, - or some come when they're 14.
0:15:50 > 0:15:51- They are the future.
0:15:51 > 0:15:55- They're full of enthusiasm - and full of ideas.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- It's a happy place, - full of mischief at times...
0:15:59 > 0:16:03- ..but it's also a place to learn, - and we all love farming.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- That sums up Gelli Aur.
0:16:05 > 0:16:10- Have you seen a change - in the young people's enthusiasm?
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- They've always been enthusiastic.
0:16:15 > 0:16:19- From the first year I started, - the passion has been there.
0:16:20 > 0:16:24- I'll tell you what has changed. - They've become more serious.
0:16:24 > 0:16:29- They've seen that it's a business. - That has changed.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31- I'd say that, 20 years ago...
0:16:31 > 0:16:35- ..the pressure to make money - wasn't there.
0:16:35 > 0:16:39- It probably was, - but youngsters weren't aware of it.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43- Now, you have 17 and 18-year-olds - discussing margins per kilo.
0:16:43 > 0:16:46- That has crept into their language.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49- The reality of the business world...
0:16:49 > 0:16:52- ..hits them earlier - than it did 20 years ago.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55- That's the biggest change I've seen.
0:16:56 > 0:17:00- They're enthusiastic and active, - passionate about what they do...
0:17:00 > 0:17:04- ..they love the job, - they work hard and get up early.
0:17:04 > 0:17:08- Some are up at five to milk, then - go home at four to milk again...
0:17:09 > 0:17:13- ..at the same time as doing - foundation courses or degrees here.
0:17:22 > 0:17:24- Mary was raised on a busy farm.
0:17:25 > 0:17:28- Her passion for farming - is very evident...
0:17:28 > 0:17:32- ..especially - when she tends the animals.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38- What happens on the farm nowadays?
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- Well, I've been trying - to cut down a little...
0:17:41 > 0:17:44- ..so Dad rents land out in summer.
0:17:44 > 0:17:48- This winter, for the first time, - we've got tack sheep and cattle.
0:17:48 > 0:17:52- He takes care of the sheep - and checks on them every day.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54- He's 86 and full of beans!
0:17:54 > 0:17:59- There's plenty to do here every day. - I've cut back on the sheep.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02- Your responsibilities in the college - have increased.
0:18:02 > 0:18:06- Don't! I'm in work for 8.00am - and I leave about 5.30pm.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09- That's my focus at the moment.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14- I love the farm but I can't - see myself making a living here.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16- It's a 100-acre farm. - It's not enough.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- I also love teaching.
0:18:19 > 0:18:21- You do have a couple of sheep.
0:18:21 > 0:18:23- You do have a couple of sheep.- - Yes. Not as many as I used to have.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25- At one point, we had about 250.
0:18:25 > 0:18:30- But now, we've downsized - and we have a variety of types.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34- We have some Balwen sheep, - some Black Welsh Mountains.
0:18:34 > 0:18:38- The sheep are smaller! I'm weaker - and they're smaller in size.
0:18:39 > 0:18:42- So there's enough here. - I'll still be lambing.
0:18:42 > 0:18:44- How important do you think it is...
0:18:44 > 0:18:47- ..for you to be working - in agriculture as a teacher?
0:18:47 > 0:18:49- Very important.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53- You have credibility. Your students - know you understand the job.
0:18:53 > 0:18:56- You talk about current issues. - You know about prices.
0:18:56 > 0:19:00- I receive prices by text - from Meat Promotion Wales.
0:19:00 > 0:19:04- I sell, I buy, I rear, - I dose animals.
0:19:04 > 0:19:05- I live in that world.
0:19:06 > 0:19:11- Because of that, you can understand - problems facing farmers.
0:19:11 > 0:19:14- It's not a matter - of talking from a textbook.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18- It's learning by living. - I think that comes across.
0:19:22 > 0:19:28- Having a balance - between college work and the farm...
0:19:28 > 0:19:30- ..sounds like an ideal life.
0:19:31 > 0:19:32- It is.
0:19:32 > 0:19:35- Combining both is great for me.
0:19:35 > 0:19:39- I wouldn't want one without - the other. They both balance out.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42- My brain has to work - but I also do physical work.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- I go to bed and I'm tired - mentally and physically.
0:19:46 > 0:19:51- I really appreciate it. - It gives me stability and a focus.
0:19:51 > 0:19:56- Within 15 minutes of arriving home, - I'm in a different world.
0:19:56 > 0:20:00- The dogs are here. I have to care - for them. A sheep may be lame.
0:20:00 > 0:20:03- Dad might have noticed - something wrong with the sheep.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05- It gives me real enjoyment.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13- I am so lucky. My life is fantastic.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16- I have a job I love. - I work with fantastic people.
0:20:16 > 0:20:22- I know that someone somewhere - must be looking after me.
0:20:26 > 0:20:28- Congratulations to her.
0:20:28 > 0:20:33- Transferring information - is the main aim of this conference.
0:20:33 > 0:20:37- With wide-ranging themes such as - the future of Britain in Europe...
0:20:37 > 0:20:39- ..and food as medicine...
0:20:39 > 0:20:43- ..I wonder what those present - made of the lectures.
0:20:47 > 0:20:49- I'm very grateful - to the Royal Welsh Show...
0:20:49 > 0:20:52- ..for sponsoring me - to come here for three days.
0:20:53 > 0:20:57- It's been very interesting meeting - so many farmers, students...
0:20:58 > 0:21:01- ..young farmers - and technology companies.
0:21:01 > 0:21:03- Everyone is here - to discuss the industry.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07- We've had a difficult year - and we're looking to the future now.
0:21:08 > 0:21:10- That's what this is all about...
0:21:10 > 0:21:13- ..especially with the theme - of Bold Agriculture.
0:21:13 > 0:21:18- There was talk about the future - of food production and medicine.
0:21:18 > 0:21:19- We'll see what comes of that.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24- Are we aware of the value - of our produce to people's health?
0:21:24 > 0:21:28- I don't think we are. Not everyone - takes care of their diet.
0:21:28 > 0:21:31- It was interesting - to hear them talking about it.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33- We must look at the fats - we consume...
0:21:33 > 0:21:39- ..but we must also pay attention - to the food we give animals.
0:21:45 > 0:21:48- As usual, - it's been a high-quality conference.
0:21:48 > 0:21:51- We have had a good cross-section - of speakers...
0:21:51 > 0:21:53- ..from politicians to farmers.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- We also had the debate last night - in which Aled Tyllwyd spoke.
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- You mentioned politics there.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- The hot topic of the moment - is Brexit.
0:22:04 > 0:22:08- Have these discussions shed - some light on where Wales should go?
0:22:08 > 0:22:13- This morning, Owen Paterson - had a debate with Phil Hogan.
0:22:13 > 0:22:17- It is clear to me - that Wales should remain in Europe.
0:22:18 > 0:22:23- As farmers, we are very reliant on - European payments to keep us going.
0:22:23 > 0:22:28- Owen Paterson said nothing this - morning that would change my mind.
0:22:28 > 0:22:32- Phil Hogan was very good and he - conveyed the importance of Europe.
0:22:32 > 0:22:35- I would be quite concerned - if we were to leave Europe.
0:22:36 > 0:22:39- What is the main message...
0:22:39 > 0:22:43- ..you will take home - from this conference?
0:22:43 > 0:22:48- It was encouraging to see - such amazing young people here.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51- Also, there were two representatives - from Wales.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55- Neil Perkins from Pembrokeshire - spoke about his flock...
0:22:56 > 0:22:58- ..and his use of technology.
0:22:58 > 0:23:03- As I've mentioned, Aled Tyllwyd - took part in the debate last night.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- I have been to about 15 - of these debates over the years.
0:23:07 > 0:23:11- For me, he was certainly - one of the best speakers I've seen.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- That's it for another week.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- It's been great - hearing so many speakers...
0:23:20 > 0:23:23- ..talking about agriculture - with such enthusiasm.
0:23:23 > 0:23:27- I'm now going back to Rhydymain, - to the rain and mud...
0:23:27 > 0:23:30- ..to try and make the ideas - I've heard in Oxford work for me...
0:23:31 > 0:23:33- ..and others like me in Meirionnydd.
0:23:33 > 0:23:39- But for now, from me - and the rest of the crew, goodbye.
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