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0:00:17 > 0:00:20- Hello and welcome to Ffermio...
0:00:20 > 0:00:26- ..from the Monmouthshire livestock - market just outside Raglan.
0:00:26 > 0:00:30- Today is St Dwynwen's Day in Wales.
0:00:30 > 0:00:35- Later in the programme, - Daloni visits one farmer's wife...
0:00:35 > 0:00:39- ..who is facing one - of the busiest times of the year...
0:00:39 > 0:00:42- ..as she prepares - for Wales's lovers.
0:00:43 > 0:00:45- Also on today's programme...
0:00:45 > 0:00:49- ..I'll visit an unusual dairy farm - near Llandovery.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53- They receive 60p per litre - for their milk.
0:00:55 > 0:01:00- Firstly, in markets across the - country, there have been changes...
0:01:00 > 0:01:03- ..in how goat and sheep movements - are tracked...
0:01:03 > 0:01:06- ..with the arrival - of the EID Cymru system.
0:01:07 > 0:01:11- Alun has been finding out more - about the new scheme.
0:01:12 > 0:01:13- Since 18 January...
0:01:14 > 0:01:18- ..if you manage a livestock market, - abattoir or collection centre...
0:01:18 > 0:01:22- ..there's a new system for - registering the movement of sheep.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25- It's electronic - and it's called EID Cymru.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- At the moment, - it isn't mandatory for farmers.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32- We should show some interest - in the process...
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- ..to see if there are benefits - to be had for our own businesses.
0:01:41 > 0:01:44- The work is centred here - in Aberystwyth.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48- The movements of all sheep in Wales - are held on one database.
0:01:48 > 0:01:52- The head of EID Cymru - is Rhian Jones.
0:01:53 > 0:01:58- We are a few days in and are happy - with where we stand at the moment.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01- We've received many phone calls...
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- ..enquiring about registering - with EID Cymru.
0:02:05 > 0:02:11- The first thing farmers must do - to record electronically...
0:02:11 > 0:02:13- ..is to register on our website.
0:02:14 > 0:02:17- They need to choose a username - and password.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- We will send them an email - within 72 hours.
0:02:20 > 0:02:24- They can then log on to the website.
0:02:24 > 0:02:27- Farmers who don't want - to do it electronically...
0:02:27 > 0:02:30- ..can still do so on paper.
0:02:30 > 0:02:34- There is a new form which is more - or less the same as the old one.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37- The one important change...
0:02:37 > 0:02:41- ..is that it's EID Cymru's - office address at the bottom.
0:02:41 > 0:02:46- The forms should be sent back to us - and not to the local authorities.
0:02:47 > 0:02:52- Some farmers say that every tag - isn't always read at the mart.
0:02:53 > 0:02:58- What proportion of the tags - are read correctly?
0:02:58 > 0:03:04- From the data we received before - Christmas when testing the system...
0:03:04 > 0:03:09- ..the read rates for lamb tags...
0:03:09 > 0:03:12- ..was between 95% and 100%.
0:03:12 > 0:03:16- Technology has advanced - over the last ten years.
0:03:16 > 0:03:20- We have a lot more faith - in the system now.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23- We are very happy - with where we are at the moment.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27- We look forward to working with the - industry using EID Cymru's systems.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- Although it's not compulsory - for farmers...
0:03:30 > 0:03:33- ..some have been testing - the new system.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- One of those is Dafydd Jones...
0:03:35 > 0:03:39- ..of Maesllwyni Farm, - Penegoes, near Machynlleth.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42- I've been involved - for about three years.
0:03:44 > 0:03:48- A committee was formed - to develop the system.
0:03:49 > 0:03:53- Recently, we have been meeting - every two months.
0:03:53 > 0:03:58- They develop the system and then - show it to farmers like myself.
0:03:59 > 0:04:03- We could then give our opinion - and also suggest any improvements.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07- Sitting in an office - designing a system is one thing.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- When a farmer - takes lambs to the mart...
0:04:10 > 0:04:13- ..they might only have five minutes - to fill in a form.
0:04:13 > 0:04:19- You have to consider the - practicalities of all the paperwork.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23- From what you've seen - and now that it's been launched...
0:04:23 > 0:04:25- ..are you satisfied?
0:04:25 > 0:04:28- I'm happy with the system.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31- It's very simple, - without too much jargon.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34- It only has what's needed.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38- The advantage of using a computer...
0:04:38 > 0:04:43- ..is that you don't fill - a lot of boxes as with paperwork.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45- As I have told people...
0:04:45 > 0:04:50- ..a lot of boxes contain information - you've previously filled in.
0:04:51 > 0:04:55- Doing it online actually - cuts the amount of work required.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58- All you have to do online - is to click 'send'.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02- There isn't a letter - waiting for weeks to be posted.
0:05:02 > 0:05:06- In the modern age that we live in...
0:05:06 > 0:05:08- ..as farmers...
0:05:08 > 0:05:13- ..we should be looking - for advantages in computer systems.
0:05:14 > 0:05:19- At the start, these changes - seem to be a lot of hassle.
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- In time, these changes - over the past 20 years...
0:05:24 > 0:05:27- ..will assist us - in controlling our stock.
0:05:27 > 0:05:30- It will make the work easier...
0:05:30 > 0:05:34- ..even if it doesn't feel that way - at the beginning.
0:05:35 > 0:05:37- In time, - technology can be our friend.
0:05:39 > 0:05:43- Back here in the mart, - the system is now in operation.
0:05:43 > 0:05:48- Making sure it's all running - smoothly is John Richards.
0:05:48 > 0:05:51- He's the leader - of the technical team at EID Cymru.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54- How much work - was introducing this system...
0:05:54 > 0:05:58- ..to the marts, abattoirs - and collection centres?
0:05:58 > 0:06:01- It's been a lot of work - over the last few months.
0:06:01 > 0:06:05- The rules mean the markets, - abattoirs and collection centres...
0:06:05 > 0:06:09- ..all have to report electronically - to us at EID Cymru.
0:06:09 > 0:06:15- We've been going out to them all - explaining how the system works.
0:06:15 > 0:06:18- We've then been there as support.
0:06:18 > 0:06:22- That will continue - for months and years to come...
0:06:22 > 0:06:26- ..for all these sites - that do report electronically.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- We want the system - to work well for everyone...
0:06:30 > 0:06:33- ..to ensure - it's a boon for the industry.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37- We're up and running. - How's it going?
0:06:37 > 0:06:41- It's been quite smooth considering - it's a brand-new system for Wales.
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- There were - some slight teething problems...
0:06:45 > 0:06:49- ..but we're confident - we've smoothed those out...
0:06:49 > 0:06:54- ..and the system is working properly - for everyone who needs to use it.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57- How dependable is this system?
0:06:57 > 0:07:02- It's a system - that's been tested very thoroughly.
0:07:02 > 0:07:06- We're confident - that it's running smoothly...
0:07:06 > 0:07:11- ..and available - to anybody who needs it from now on.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14- Why did we need this system?
0:07:14 > 0:07:17- This is a tracking system.
0:07:17 > 0:07:22- It takes us all the way back - to the last foot and mouth outbreak.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25- The regulations were changed then.
0:07:25 > 0:07:30- EID Cymru has stepped up to help the - industry with this tracking service.
0:07:30 > 0:07:35- With time, I hope - it's a system we all start using.
0:07:36 > 0:07:38- We ask anyone to contact us...
0:07:39 > 0:07:42- ..if they can think - of any improvements.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45- We'll look at any idea...
0:07:45 > 0:07:50- ..and if it helps the industry, - we'll help to instigate it.
0:07:51 > 0:07:56- How many of you have received - or sent a bouquet of flowers today?
0:07:56 > 0:07:58- It's St Dwynwen's Day.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00- Daloni has been discovering...
0:08:01 > 0:08:05- ..what lovers send each other - in Llanrwst on this special day.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17- Farchwel Farm in the Conwy Valley...
0:08:18 > 0:08:21- ..is the home - of Rhiannon Roberts and her family.
0:08:21 > 0:08:26- It's a busy farm with plenty of work - to be done inside and outside.
0:08:28 > 0:08:33- After completing her tasks - on the farm every morning...
0:08:33 > 0:08:37- ..Rhiannon heads for Llanrwst - to turn her attention to flowers.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- She has a natural artistic talent.
0:08:46 > 0:08:51- Before she opened her shop, - Rhiannon went on several courses...
0:08:51 > 0:08:56- ..to see how to prepare - all the different flowers properly.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01- It's three years - since I bought the shop.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- I wanted a new challenge.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08- There happened to be - a shop for sale in Llanrwst.
0:09:08 > 0:09:13- I had always been quite creative - and liked to potter about.
0:09:14 > 0:09:16- I decided to go for it.
0:09:16 > 0:09:21- How did you prepare - for running a business?
0:09:21 > 0:09:25- I started with a course - to learn more about flowers.
0:09:25 > 0:09:29- I also went on a course - to learn how to run a business.
0:09:29 > 0:09:31- The course was in Wilmslow.
0:09:31 > 0:09:37- It was quite an eye-opener - in terms of running a business.
0:09:37 > 0:09:42- I also learned all about the care - and preparation of cut flowers.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46- That was a lot of work - and I'm still learning.
0:09:47 > 0:09:49- What's your weekly regime?
0:09:50 > 0:09:53- We order most of our flowers - on the Internet...
0:09:53 > 0:09:55- ..before 11.00am in the morning.
0:09:56 > 0:09:59- The flowers arrive - before we open the following day.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01- That's incredible.
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- Every Wednesday, I take the lorry - and meet with a Dutch dealer.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- He comes over - and I buy the ones I want from him.
0:10:13 > 0:10:18- They arrange flower bouquets - for all kinds of different events.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- The flowers - are delivered all over the country.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- Today, all the attention - is trained on St Dwynwen's Day.
0:10:29 > 0:10:30- It's Welsh lovers' day today.
0:10:30 > 0:10:31- It's Welsh lovers' day today.- - Yes, it is.
0:10:32 > 0:10:34- The orders are flooding in.
0:10:34 > 0:10:35- The orders are flooding in.- - It's quite busy.
0:10:35 > 0:10:37- What do people want?
0:10:39 > 0:10:43- Red roses mainly, but I was hoping - you'd help with an arrangement.
0:10:43 > 0:10:45- I've never done it before.
0:10:45 > 0:10:49- There's a first time for everything.
0:10:49 > 0:10:51- We've prepared this in advance.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54- We have a red pot - for this occasion...
0:10:54 > 0:10:56- ..and some greenery.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58- Get a hold of the iris.
0:10:58 > 0:11:02- We're going to do this - using pink, red and purple colours.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05- Cut them at an angle.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07- Like so.
0:11:07 > 0:11:12- Ahead of the one sticking up - we push this one in.
0:11:14 > 0:11:15- Like that.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18- Make it a bit shorter.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20- Shorter still?
0:11:20 > 0:11:21- Shorter still?- - No, that's fine.
0:11:22 > 0:11:25- Now, we add the red roses.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30- We cut off the bottoms - and remove most of the leaves.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34- We also remove the outer petals.
0:11:35 > 0:11:39- Those have been exposed - to the weather in the garden.
0:11:39 > 0:11:41- You cut at an angle again.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- We go to around this height.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48- Cut it at an angle - and then place it in.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50- Why are we cutting at an angle?
0:11:50 > 0:11:54- It gives a bigger surface area.
0:11:55 > 0:12:00- Cutting straight across - gives you a small round surface...
0:12:00 > 0:12:03- ..whereas an angled cut - gives you a bigger surface.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- That means more water is drawn up.
0:12:13 > 0:12:14- How do we finish it off?
0:12:14 > 0:12:17- How do we finish it off?- - We have some ready-made hearts.
0:12:18 > 0:12:19- Here's one for you.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21- It's made from steel grass.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24- That gives us the feeling of love.
0:12:25 > 0:12:26- You made these?
0:12:26 > 0:12:27- You made these?- - Yes.
0:12:27 > 0:12:28- Where do we put them?
0:12:29 > 0:12:31- That goes in the oasis too.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36- People can see - that it's for St Dwynwen's Day.
0:12:37 > 0:12:38- Hey!
0:12:42 > 0:12:46- Three years have passed since - Rhiannon opened her flower shop.
0:12:47 > 0:12:51- She loves her time - among the chrysanths and carnations.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56- She likes flowers, - but clearly, she also likes people.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01- How do you combine - a florist business with farming?
0:13:02 > 0:13:04- I have to admit it isn't easy.
0:13:04 > 0:13:05- It's a lot of work.
0:13:07 > 0:13:12- I do extra work - in the evenings and at weekends.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- It's OK because I really love it.
0:13:15 > 0:13:19- In the shop, I'm always - trying to please the customers.
0:13:19 > 0:13:22- They are the important ones.
0:13:30 > 0:13:32- That's it for part one.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- Join us after the break...
0:13:34 > 0:13:38- ..when I meet some of the - worst-behaved animals on the planet.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40- Don't miss that.
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0:13:53 > 0:13:54- Welcome back.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57- The crisis continues - in the milk industry.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00- A family from Cynghordy, - Carmarthenshire...
0:14:00 > 0:14:05- ..have decided to trade in their - herd of Friesian cattle for goats.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09- This week, I paid them a visit - to see how the venture is going.
0:14:11 > 0:14:16- Meirion and Sharon Evans' farm lies - at the foot of Cynghordy Viaduct...
0:14:17 > 0:14:20- ..on the Carmarthenshire-Brecknock - border.
0:14:20 > 0:14:24- Over the years they have dabbled - with various ventures...
0:14:24 > 0:14:26- ..from four wheels to four legs.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- The family originally farmed - Friesian cattle.
0:14:30 > 0:14:34- They now have 850 goats - passing through the milking parlour.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38- Here's a feast for the eyes - - a shed full of goats.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40- What made you decide on goats?
0:14:40 > 0:14:45- We've tried a bit of everything. - I was a mechanic for years.
0:14:46 > 0:14:52- My father made a good living - from milking 20 dairy cattle.
0:14:52 > 0:14:54- He bought the farm in 1958.
0:14:57 > 0:15:02- By the time I finished - my apprenticeship as a mechanic...
0:15:02 > 0:15:05- ..we had to change - the milking parlour.
0:15:07 > 0:15:12- At the time, 25 years ago, - milk was 27p per litre.
0:15:12 > 0:15:13- Back then.
0:15:14 > 0:15:15- More than now?
0:15:15 > 0:15:16- More than now?- - Yes.
0:15:18 > 0:15:22- We had to keep more cattle - but the farm couldn't handle more.
0:15:22 > 0:15:26- With all the slurry, - it just wasn't going to work.
0:15:27 > 0:15:32- He sold the quota - and I bought some heifers to breed.
0:15:32 > 0:15:36- I bought the heifers from - Carmarthen and Sennybridge...
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- ..and paired them with a bull.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42- Ten months later, - when I went back to Sennybridge...
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- ..they were worth less - than I paid for them.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48- I had to come up - with something else.
0:15:48 > 0:15:50- I had a year out then.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53- I was back and forth - working on farms around Hereford.
0:15:54 > 0:15:59- I saw some goats being milked - on a farm in Monmouth.
0:16:01 > 0:16:05- I thought to myself there's a chance - I could do something similar.
0:16:05 > 0:16:11- Has it been difficult to adapt? - Have you ever kept goats before?
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- No, not one. I've never had anything - to do with them.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- How many did you buy in Hereford?
0:16:17 > 0:16:18- Over 750.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22- 750 goats arrived at Glandwr.
0:16:22 > 0:16:25- Four o'clock one afternoon.
0:16:25 > 0:16:29- We had set up a little parlour - to milk a dozen at a time.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32- It took nine hours to milk them.
0:16:32 > 0:16:33- It took nine hours to milk them.- - Oh!
0:16:33 > 0:16:35- But it changed quickly.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40- Yes, once we moved the parlour - to where it is now...
0:16:40 > 0:16:42- ..and built a shed.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45- That made a lot of difference.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- How much do you receive - per litre of milk?
0:16:49 > 0:16:52- At the moment, 60p. - That's what we get for the milk.
0:16:53 > 0:16:56- It looks like it might go up - at the end of the month.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59- Rise again? - The price of cow's milk is falling.
0:16:59 > 0:17:01- There's a shortage of goat's milk.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- It's what's known as a niche market.
0:17:04 > 0:17:08- It's a very nutritious milk.
0:17:08 > 0:17:10- Yes, it is.
0:17:10 > 0:17:15- People drink it to help ease eczema - and conditions like that.
0:17:16 > 0:17:19- How many litres of goat's milk - do you produce in a week?
0:17:20 > 0:17:24- Some of them - produce five litres a day.
0:17:24 > 0:17:30- The average at this time of year, - as it's colder, is three litres.
0:17:30 > 0:17:36- They give three litres every day - and we milk them twice a day.
0:17:37 > 0:17:40- We'd better go from here - or they'll eat us alive!
0:17:56 > 0:17:59- The milk goes to the creamery - in Abergavenny.
0:18:00 > 0:18:04- There, it is churned into cheese - to be sold in supermarkets.
0:18:04 > 0:18:08- It's also exported to America. - The goats need a lot of food.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- Meirion enjoys experimenting - with different feeds.
0:18:13 > 0:18:16- This year, we're trying pea haulms.
0:18:17 > 0:18:19- It's been through the combine.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- The peas go into the feed.
0:18:23 > 0:18:26- This would go to waste.
0:18:26 > 0:18:28- It's quite tasty for them.
0:18:28 > 0:18:29- It's quite sweet.
0:18:29 > 0:18:30- It's quite sweet.- - Yes, it's sweet.
0:18:31 > 0:18:36- It works well with cake - because it's quite coarse.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39- That's what goats want.
0:18:39 > 0:18:42- Unlike sheep, - they don't want soft grass.
0:18:42 > 0:18:43- And it's dry food.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- And it's dry food.- - Yes, so you don't have to worm them.
0:18:47 > 0:18:48- Tell me more about that.
0:18:48 > 0:18:53- If I have to worm them, I have - to leave some of the milk out.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55- We lose money then.
0:18:56 > 0:19:01- You'd have to worm them - if you gave them wet feed?
0:19:01 > 0:19:04- Yes, but they don't pick up worms - from dry feed.
0:19:04 > 0:19:09- We worm them when they're born - in case they're carrying worms.
0:19:09 > 0:19:14- When they're on dry food, there's - no reason why they'd pick them up.
0:19:14 > 0:19:17- How much food do all the goats - get through in a year?
0:19:19 > 0:19:24- I use about 2,000 square bales - of hay.
0:19:24 > 0:19:25- Big ones then?
0:19:25 > 0:19:27- Big ones then?- - Yes, the big, square ones.
0:19:27 > 0:19:29- I use 2,000 a year.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32- And then concentrates.
0:19:32 > 0:19:33- And then concentrates.- - Yes, concentrates.
0:19:34 > 0:19:38- I've got a contract - of about 600 tonnes a year.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41- You also keep sheep on the farm.
0:19:42 > 0:19:43- Yes. They keep us busy.
0:19:43 > 0:19:46- We don't make any money - from them at the moment.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49- They keep the land. - They're a lot of work.
0:19:50 > 0:19:53- I like sheep on the farm - so I'll continue to keep them.
0:19:54 > 0:19:55- I keep Welsh sheep.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58- What's the system with the sheep?
0:19:58 > 0:20:00- I call them "easy-care".
0:20:01 > 0:20:05- We feed them every morning - and check on them every evening.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08- The lambing is done outside - so there's no work to do on them.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13- We spend a lot of time every day - making sure everything is OK.
0:20:16 > 0:20:19- The whole family do their best to - ensure that the business succeeds.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24- The youngest son, Morgan, is - responsible for the stock's welfare.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27- Meredith has the job of milking.
0:20:28 > 0:20:31- It was quite an experience...
0:20:31 > 0:20:36- ..to go from having none to 700-800 - over the course of a week.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39- It was quite difficult - and challenging to get used to.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42- Once we got used to it, it was fine.
0:20:43 > 0:20:46- We've got a parlour that does - a lot of the work for us.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49- It's just a case of putting - the clusters on...
0:20:49 > 0:20:52- ..and making sure - they milk properly.
0:20:52 > 0:20:54- Is it important for you two...
0:20:54 > 0:20:59- ..to have a business on the farm - that allows you both to be home?
0:21:00 > 0:21:03- Yes, it is important - that the farm keeps going.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07- With this market now, - it's something unusual.
0:21:08 > 0:21:12- They certainly don't put all - their eggs in one basket at Glandwr.
0:21:12 > 0:21:15- Everybody has their own interests.
0:21:16 > 0:21:17- So these are your babies?
0:21:17 > 0:21:21- These are my babies - or they used - to be before the goats took over.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25- I haven't got the time now - to do as much as I used to.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28- I try to fit - a little bit of time in.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30- You've been successful in the past.
0:21:30 > 0:21:32- You've been successful in the past.- - I've done well at the Royal Welsh.
0:21:32 > 0:21:36- We had the double championship - one year with one horse.
0:21:36 > 0:21:39- Every year, we take something up.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41- It helps with the show - and we enjoy it.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44- How much interest - do you have in horses?
0:21:44 > 0:21:48- A lot. - I rode a lot when I was young.
0:21:48 > 0:21:50- It was mountain horses back then.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- These are a bit bigger.
0:21:53 > 0:21:54- These are a bit bigger.- - Yes, they are.
0:21:55 > 0:21:57- We've been trying to earn money - from these.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01- We've had three - thoroughbred stallions in all.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04- We've got the hunter to sell on.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07- We sell the young ones - at three years old...
0:22:07 > 0:22:09- ..after we've finished - showing them.
0:22:10 > 0:22:14- You're still making improvements. - There's a new shed being built.
0:22:15 > 0:22:19- Abergavenny have asked me - to produce twice as much milk.
0:22:19 > 0:22:22- The first fortnight - I sent them milk...
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- ..they were very pleased.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27- They didn't realize - we had so many goats.
0:22:28 > 0:22:32- They wanted us to double - what we were producing back then.
0:22:32 > 0:22:38- Two years on, the little ones - are starting to get bigger.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- We'll be milking more this summer.
0:22:41 > 0:22:45- In general, - life is good at the moment.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- Yes - at the moment.
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- I'm glad that I went into goats.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- I'm able to keep - our two boys at home.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- I couldn't do that with sheep.
0:22:54 > 0:22:57- We know what the income is - from 500 sheep.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59- It was a big outlay.
0:23:00 > 0:23:04- If I bought more land, where would - I get the income to pay for it?
0:23:04 > 0:23:08- All we want in order to live in the - countryside is to keep our income.
0:23:09 > 0:23:11- Just to keep the two boys - on the farm.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14- Hopefully, - they can carry on after me.
0:23:16 > 0:23:18- That's all for this programme.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22- Where better to finish the programme - than in the UK's best market cafe...
0:23:22 > 0:23:24- ..according to - the Farmers Guardian?
0:23:25 > 0:23:27- Until next time, - thank you for your company.
0:23:27 > 0:23:28- Goodbye.
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