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0:00:17 > 0:00:19- Happy New Year to you...
0:00:19 > 0:00:24- ..and a warm welcome - to our first programme of 2016.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26- I'm here at Ruthin Livestock Market.
0:00:27 > 0:00:31- The theme of this programme - is innovation in agriculture.
0:00:31 > 0:00:35- Changes to the EID sheep tagging - system in Wales will be discussed.
0:00:36 > 0:00:40- Alun will be learning more about - the system of breeding sheepdogs...
0:00:40 > 0:00:44- ..with the international expert, - Aled Owen.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47- But first, Meinir has been - in the Clynderwen area...
0:00:47 > 0:00:51- ..talking to a keen young farmer - who has been awarded a prize...
0:00:52 > 0:00:54- ..in entrepreneurship by the FUW.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59- With agriculture - changing every day...
0:01:00 > 0:01:03- ..the business - has to be consistently re-evaluated.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07- Matthew Williams and his family of - Glynllewellyn Farm, Llanycefn...
0:01:08 > 0:01:12- ..decided to adapt their system - and open up another income stream.
0:01:12 > 0:01:16- They said goodbye to the old system - of spending six hours a day...
0:01:16 > 0:01:19- ..in the milking parlour - and installed a robot.
0:01:19 > 0:01:23- This allowed them to focus - on their contracting business...
0:01:23 > 0:01:27- ..and also, at the same time, - improve the performance of the herd.
0:01:28 > 0:01:32- How many changes have you made - over the last 18 months?
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- Many changes. - We have a robot to milk the cows.
0:01:36 > 0:01:38- The old parlour had had its day.
0:01:38 > 0:01:42- It was either give up the dairy side - or bring in a robot.
0:01:43 > 0:01:46- We do a lot of contracting - so having a robot suits us.
0:01:46 > 0:01:49- We don't have to be at home - to do the milking.
0:01:50 > 0:01:51- We come and go as we please.
0:01:52 > 0:01:56- The cows are yielding more milk - and we now keep fewer of them.
0:01:56 > 0:02:00- How much improvement has there been - in the performance of the herd?
0:02:01 > 0:02:02- Our milk yield has doubled.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06- We've gone from 30 litres a day - to 60 litres a day.
0:02:07 > 0:02:12- We keep fewer cattle - and produce more milk.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14- How often are the cows milked?
0:02:14 > 0:02:17- Some of them - are milked four times a day.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19- Four times!
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- They have cake four times a day - instead of twice a day.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26- We don't have to give them - so much protein in one go...
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- ..and they don't have to carry - the milk all day.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33- They're milked four times - - four lots of fifteen litres.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36- Carrying milk all day - is stressful for them.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39- You have Friesians at the moment. - Will that change too?
0:02:39 > 0:02:43- We keep Friesians because they walk - better on the road than Holsteins.
0:02:43 > 0:02:48- But now that we keep the cattle in - all year, we may get some Holsteins.
0:02:48 > 0:02:51- How much effect have milk prices - had on your business?
0:02:52 > 0:02:56- When we went to the bank - to borrow money for the robot...
0:02:56 > 0:03:01- ..the price of milk was 26p, so they - were prepared to lend us the money.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04- But now it's down to 16p - with First Milk.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07- We wouldn't have made - this decision...
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- ..if the price of milk - had been that low at the time.
0:03:11 > 0:03:14- I don't think the bank - would have lent us the money.
0:03:14 > 0:03:18- I'm glad we did it. I think we would - have regretted it if we hadn't.
0:03:18 > 0:03:23- But things are hard at the moment. - Hopefully, things will improve soon.
0:03:27 > 0:03:31- Owning the family contracting - business allows Matthew...
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- ..the flexibility to increase - or decrease his hours as needed.
0:03:35 > 0:03:38- During the downturn - in the milk industry...
0:03:38 > 0:03:41- ..he has turned his attention more - to the contracting.
0:03:42 > 0:03:45- What types of contracting work - do you do?
0:03:45 > 0:03:46- All kinds.
0:03:46 > 0:03:52- Silage, slurry, hedge-trimming, - liming and digging.
0:03:52 > 0:03:55- We're a small firm - trying to keep everyone happy.
0:03:56 > 0:04:00- We get plenty of silage orders - and we work it out with the farmers.
0:04:00 > 0:04:03- How many workers - and tractors do you have?
0:04:03 > 0:04:07- I have two full-timers - with others helping out sometimes.
0:04:08 > 0:04:10- We run three big tractors - of our own.
0:04:10 > 0:04:14- Some boys bring their own tractors - to help in the busy periods.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17- It's an expensive business.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- How much does a new tractor cost?
0:04:21 > 0:04:25- It's around 70,000 - for a new tractor.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28- Fixing one is also very dear.
0:04:28 > 0:04:32- They are all computerised - so we can't do much ourselves.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35- We have to pay specialists - to fix them.
0:04:35 > 0:04:37- The cost is in labour - rather than parts.
0:04:39 > 0:04:43- It's clear that entrepreneurship - flows in Matthew's blood.
0:04:43 > 0:04:48- He recently won the Pembrokeshire - FUW Countryside Business award.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52- It was for any individual under 40 - who has built a rural business...
0:04:52 > 0:04:56- ..offering services - to the agricultural sector.
0:04:56 > 0:05:00- Winning this award - was quite an achievement.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03- Winning any award is an achievement.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06- It's been in the local papers - and everyone saw it.
0:05:06 > 0:05:10- Farmers have been ringing - offering me more work.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13- It showed people what I can do.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17- You were nominated by a customer.
0:05:17 > 0:05:20- A customer did put my name forward.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23- So I have to thank him for this.
0:05:24 > 0:05:29- It shows that the customers I have - are pleased with what I do for them.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36- Matthew is the third generation - of the family to farm Glynllewellyn.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40- His father John and his mother - Eunice help out every day.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43- They farm 150 acres...
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- ..keep 90 Friesians - and about 100 fattened cattle.
0:05:48 > 0:05:51- How does milking with the robot...
0:05:51 > 0:05:55- ..compare with the way you milked - before with a breast pump?
0:05:57 > 0:05:59- Because we'd used the pump...
0:05:59 > 0:06:02- ..the cattle got used - to the robot more quickly.
0:06:02 > 0:06:05- They had to stand - in the same way for the pump...
0:06:05 > 0:06:07- ..as they do for the robot.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- And in addition, - Matthew has won an award.
0:06:12 > 0:06:13- Yes.
0:06:13 > 0:06:17- All I can say - is he's been well-schooled!
0:06:18 > 0:06:19- He's been taught well.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- You must be very proud of him.
0:06:22 > 0:06:23- Yes, I am.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- Until about four years ago...
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- ..Matthew was not at all interested - in dairy cattle.
0:06:30 > 0:06:36- Since we had the robot, he's taken - more interest in the livestock.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38- More than me, in some ways.
0:06:38 > 0:06:41- I'm quite happy to go out - contracting every day.
0:06:44 > 0:06:46- Matthew and his wife - have two children.
0:06:47 > 0:06:49- Cadi is four and Guto is two.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52- What future does Matthew - see for them in the industry...
0:06:53 > 0:06:55- ..if they remain in agriculture?
0:06:55 > 0:07:00- I'd like to put in a second robot - if my son stays at home.
0:07:00 > 0:07:04- But with the current milk prices, - we'll stay as we are.
0:07:04 > 0:07:09- I enjoy contracting, - farming cattle, raise calves.
0:07:09 > 0:07:11- Every day is different.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14- Which do you prefer - - four wheels or four legs?
0:07:15 > 0:07:19- Three years ago, - I'd have said the tractors.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22- But these days, I enjoy working - with the cattle and the robot.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25- I get the best of both worlds.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29- I have the tractor in the day - and the cows morning and evening.
0:07:32 > 0:07:38- Bovine TB has been a hot topic - in Wales for many years.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42- For four years now, - they've been vaccinating badgers...
0:07:42 > 0:07:45- ..in a particular part - of Pembrokeshire...
0:07:45 > 0:07:48- ..in an attempt - to eradicate the disease.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52- But because there is a shortage - of the BCG vaccine...
0:07:52 > 0:07:56- ..the scheme is coming to - a premature end for the time being.
0:07:56 > 0:07:58- This is what the unions think.
0:08:06 > 0:08:10- I'm surprised that it's coming - to an end after four years.
0:08:10 > 0:08:13- It was supposed to continue - for five years.
0:08:13 > 0:08:15- I think it's been a waste of money.
0:08:15 > 0:08:21- Where is the evidence - that the scheme has worked?
0:08:21 > 0:08:23- Also, I've been amazed...
0:08:23 > 0:08:28- ..by how many vaccines - are needed for one badger.
0:08:28 > 0:08:32- I understand that 20 child vaccines - go into one badger vaccine.
0:08:32 > 0:08:33- That is such a waste...
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- ..when you think how this vaccine - is needed across the world.
0:08:38 > 0:08:42- It is disappointing, especially for - the farmers who live in the area.
0:08:42 > 0:08:47- They have done so much - for more than four years really.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- At the start, they were talking - about culling in the area.
0:08:52 > 0:08:56- Then they decided to go down - the vaccination route.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59- You have to test it...
0:08:59 > 0:09:03- ..and they've completed 80% of the - project or pilot as they call it.
0:09:04 > 0:09:09- They've done enough to show - whether or not it's going to work.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- What is your message to the Assembly - at this moment in time?
0:09:13 > 0:09:16- Not to mess about - any more with this nonsense.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19- They have to deal - with the problem properly...
0:09:20 > 0:09:23- ..like they're doing in England - and other countries.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26- If there's a TB problem - originating from badgers...
0:09:27 > 0:09:30- ..like there is - in North Pembrokeshire...
0:09:30 > 0:09:34- ..and other areas in Wales, - it should be dealt with locally.
0:09:34 > 0:09:39- Then we can move on and reduce the - number of cattle contracting TB.
0:09:39 > 0:09:42- They don't have - the vaccination option now.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45- They have to look again - at the policy.
0:09:45 > 0:09:49- It isn't fair to farmers to have - to do all the things we do today.
0:09:49 > 0:09:54- We can't move our animals - if we have the disease on the farm.
0:09:54 > 0:09:56- We're doing everything we can.
0:09:56 > 0:09:59- The government - has to play its part too.
0:09:59 > 0:10:03- Culling has to be part - of the solution from now on.
0:10:03 > 0:10:09- As farmers, we want to eradicate - the disease from this area.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- We've had the disease here - for over 20 years.
0:10:13 > 0:10:18- It's time the government understood - this and helped us to get rid of it.
0:10:19 > 0:10:21- That's all for now.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- After the break, we'll find out - how you go about training...
0:10:25 > 0:10:27- ..the best sheepdogs in the world.
0:10:28 > 0:10:29- See you in a minute.
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0:10:40 > 0:10:42- Welcome back.
0:10:42 > 0:10:46- How does someone - breed good sheepdogs?
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- Is it in the blood, is it the - training or a combination of both?
0:10:50 > 0:10:55- Alun spent some time with Aled Owen - Llangwm, an international champion.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05- Aled Owen from Penyfed Farm, - Ty-Nant, Corwen...
0:11:06 > 0:11:09- ..is one of the best - sheepdog trainers in the world.
0:11:09 > 0:11:14- He has won the World Sheepdog Trials - twice with different dogs.
0:11:14 > 0:11:19- Last year, he won the International - Sheepdog Trials for the fourth time.
0:11:21 > 0:11:25- Why is this sport so important to - you? Last year was special for you.
0:11:25 > 0:11:27- That's right.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31- The International - moves between the home nations...
0:11:32 > 0:11:34- ..Ireland, England, - Wales and Scotland.
0:11:35 > 0:11:40- I'd won in the three other countries - during the last 15 years...
0:11:40 > 0:11:44- ..but Scotland is one of the - hardest places to win the contest...
0:11:44 > 0:11:49- ..because of the different sheep - - the Scottish Blackface and so on.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52- Also, they have big courses.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57- I felt that this year, - Cap was at his best.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00- I couldn't expect any more from him.
0:12:00 > 0:12:03- That's why - it was such a special year.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- When do you think - a dog is at its best?
0:12:06 > 0:12:09- They say it's four years old.
0:12:09 > 0:12:11- One year under each leg.
0:12:11 > 0:12:13- Or under each foot.
0:12:13 > 0:12:15- I think that's true enough.
0:12:15 > 0:12:19- Between the ages of four - and eight or nine years old.
0:12:19 > 0:12:22- This takes you all over the world.
0:12:23 > 0:12:24- Yes.
0:12:24 > 0:12:25- I've been to Japan.
0:12:26 > 0:12:28- I'm going to Australia.
0:12:28 > 0:12:33- I've been to South Africa - and the United States.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36- I've been invited to South America.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- It's a good life.
0:12:40 > 0:12:43- Along with his success - over the years...
0:12:43 > 0:12:46- ..Aled has developed - a sheepdog training business.
0:12:47 > 0:12:51- In addition to the business at home, - he spends much of his time abroad...
0:12:52 > 0:12:55- ..teaching and adjudicating - at sheepdog trials.
0:12:55 > 0:13:00- I've been visiting various countries - since 1992.
0:13:01 > 0:13:05- I adjudicate - at various competitions...
0:13:06 > 0:13:11- ..but I spend most of my time - training sheepdogs and their owners.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- Does it matter - which language you use?
0:13:15 > 0:13:19- Will they learn English commands - if they've been taught in Welsh?
0:13:19 > 0:13:20- Yes.
0:13:20 > 0:13:26- I speak to them in Welsh - but the commands are in English.
0:13:26 > 0:13:27- Is that standard?
0:13:27 > 0:13:28- Is that standard?- - Yes.
0:13:28 > 0:13:30- It doesn't matter where you are.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34- I mentioned Japan earlier. - They use "come by" and "away".
0:13:35 > 0:13:37- One command you use - is "tyrd mewn" (come in).
0:13:38 > 0:13:40- When you're shedding sheep...
0:13:40 > 0:13:46- ..or if you're on the mountain - and the dog goes out too wide...
0:13:46 > 0:13:49- .."tyrd mewn" - calls the dog in and helps him.
0:13:50 > 0:13:52- It can be a very important command.
0:13:53 > 0:13:57- You'll hear "tyrd mewn" - in America and other countries...
0:13:58 > 0:14:01- ..if they're working - with dogs from Penyfed.
0:14:01 > 0:14:05- It must be a great feeling to - visit America from time to time...
0:14:05 > 0:14:08- ..and see how the dogs - have turned out.
0:14:08 > 0:14:09- That's right.
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- There is a lot of the breed there, - a lot of the breed from Wales.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18- Wales has overtaken Scotland - over the last few years.
0:14:18 > 0:14:23- For a long time, the Scottish lads - were the main breeders...
0:14:23 > 0:14:25- ..and everyone went to Scotland.
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- These days, things are different.
0:14:28 > 0:14:32- The Scots, Americans and - other nationalities come to Wales.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35- Tell me - about your latest development.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38- I understand you sell semen - from your best dogs.
0:14:39 > 0:14:43- That's right. - This has become quite popular.
0:14:45 > 0:14:49- Rather than bitches coming here - from Europe...
0:14:51 > 0:14:53- ..to be put to the dog...
0:14:54 > 0:14:56- ..we send the semen over to them.
0:14:56 > 0:14:59- We put it in a cool box.
0:15:00 > 0:15:02- It isn't frozen, it's chilled.
0:15:03 > 0:15:06- That can last for up to a fortnight.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10- It can be sent - to America or anywhere else.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14- They say in cattle, using semen - this way is 60-70% effective.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17- Is it something similar in dogs?
0:15:18 > 0:15:22- It's improved now - because of the chilled semen.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27- It can be as effective - as the natural method.
0:15:30 > 0:15:35- Although the dogs take up much - of his time, he is still a farmer.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39- This may be a silly question. - What is a good sheep to you?
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- Do you make a living from them...
0:15:42 > 0:15:44- ..or are they just tools - to train the dogs?
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- They are both to us.
0:15:47 > 0:15:51- We've increased our stock to 750 - over the last two years.
0:15:51 > 0:15:54- My brother has retired at Glanrafon.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56- I've taken over the land there.
0:15:56 > 0:16:00- I have 750 sheep - - 300 Welsh and 450 crossbreed.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03- I've kept the yearlings this year.
0:16:03 > 0:16:08- I didn't think I was offered - enough for them in the summer...
0:16:08 > 0:16:11- ..so I decided to keep them - and put them to the ram.
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- Do your own dogs - have to be farm dogs...
0:16:15 > 0:16:17- ..in addition - to competing in trials?
0:16:18 > 0:16:20- Yes, they do.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23- I can't handle soft dogs.
0:16:24 > 0:16:28- My dogs have to have enough strength - to move an entire flock.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30- If they can do that...
0:16:30 > 0:16:35- ..when they're at international - trials and handling 20 sheep...
0:16:35 > 0:16:39- ..you know they have - that extra gear.
0:16:39 > 0:16:42- These days, a lot more farmers - don't have a good dog.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47- They use a quad bike instead. - What is your opinion on that?
0:16:48 > 0:16:51- Yes, quad bikes.
0:16:51 > 0:16:55- I've been on plenty of quad bikes - and they can be dangerous.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59- When you're trying to gather sheep - with a quad bike...
0:17:00 > 0:17:02- ..especially on the hills...
0:17:02 > 0:17:06- ..people tend to lose - their tempers and drive too fast.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- I know of farmers - who have injured themselves...
0:17:10 > 0:17:11- ..not that they'd admit it.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14- They'd be better off - buying one of your dogs.
0:17:15 > 0:17:16- Exactly!
0:17:19 > 0:17:22- It's a busy and very full life - for Aled.
0:17:23 > 0:17:26- How does he go about - maintaining his high standards?
0:17:28 > 0:17:31- I've been breeding dogs - for 40 years.
0:17:31 > 0:17:35- I feel I almost have what I want. - I've had good dogs over the years.
0:17:35 > 0:17:39- From Cap, - although he's only 4.5 years old...
0:17:39 > 0:17:42- ..there are good dogs - coming through.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44- This is what I like to see.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47- I'm still trying - to improve the breed...
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- ..and trying - to improve my handling skills.
0:17:54 > 0:17:58- Hundreds of lambs have gone - under the hammer here at Ruthin.
0:17:58 > 0:18:02- Since last Friday, - changes have been brought in...
0:18:02 > 0:18:05- ..to the way Welsh lambs are tagged.
0:18:05 > 0:18:11- Since January 1st, farmers - are obliged to use electronic tags.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13- There are two choices.
0:18:14 > 0:18:19- Lambs that are sent - to an abattoir to be slaughtered...
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- ..before reaching - the age of 12 months...
0:18:23 > 0:18:28- ..must be tagged with either - an electronic slaughter tag...
0:18:28 > 0:18:33- ..or a farmer - may choose to use a full EID.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36- A full EID is an electronic tag...
0:18:36 > 0:18:41- ..containing the flock number and - the individual animal's number...
0:18:42 > 0:18:46- ..and also a conventional tag - with the same information.
0:18:46 > 0:18:51- What happens with lambs born - and tagged before January 1st?
0:18:51 > 0:18:56- There is no change for lambs - tagged before January 1st.
0:18:57 > 0:19:01- They can still be moved - up to the age of 12 months.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04- When a lamb - reaches the age of 12 months...
0:19:05 > 0:19:08- ..they will have to be upgraded - to a full EID.
0:19:08 > 0:19:12- Farmers who bought store lambs - last year...
0:19:12 > 0:19:18- ..with a non-electronic slaughter - tag, a non-EID slaughter tag...
0:19:18 > 0:19:23- ..can move those animals - after January 1st on that tag.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- They do not need to be retagged - with an electronic tag.
0:19:27 > 0:19:33- What about sheep born before 2010 - that were not electronically tagged?
0:19:34 > 0:19:36- There is no change in the rule.
0:19:36 > 0:19:40- Older sheep do not need to be given - an electronic tag.
0:19:40 > 0:19:45- We suggest farmers - check with markets and abattoirs...
0:19:45 > 0:19:49- ..to ensure they still accept - non-electronic tags.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53- How much effect do you think - this will have on the industry?
0:19:53 > 0:19:57- Decreasing tagging options - will simplify choices.
0:19:57 > 0:20:02- The hope is that they can conform - more fully with the regulations.
0:20:02 > 0:20:07- It's also important to remember - that a lot of sheep and lambs...
0:20:07 > 0:20:10- ..are exported from Wales - to England and Scotland.
0:20:10 > 0:20:15- These changes are more consistent - with rules in those countries.
0:20:15 > 0:20:19- Where can farmers - find more information about this?
0:20:19 > 0:20:23- All the information about the - changes brought in on January 1st...
0:20:23 > 0:20:27- ..can be found - on the Welsh Government website.
0:20:27 > 0:20:32- In addition, a booklet of guidelines - was sent out in December...
0:20:32 > 0:20:36- ..to all Welsh farmers - keeping sheep and goats.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38- It explains all the changes.
0:20:38 > 0:20:44- Anyone is welcome to contact the - office by telephone or by email...
0:20:44 > 0:20:49- ..or they can visit the website - for further information.
0:20:53 > 0:20:57- Ruthin Market - is busy throughout the year.
0:20:57 > 0:21:01- Glyn Owens, how many years - have you been selling here?
0:21:01 > 0:21:03- I started in Ruthin in 1986.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06- It's been a very busy market.
0:21:06 > 0:21:11- We have good support from locals - and people in the surrounding areas.
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- Your company expanded last year...
0:21:14 > 0:21:18- ..with the construction - of the building behind us.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20- We decided - to construct a new building.
0:21:21 > 0:21:24- It is a multi-purpose hall - with new offices.
0:21:25 > 0:21:27- It has worked very well.
0:21:27 > 0:21:31- New visitors and people who have - been coming to us for years...
0:21:32 > 0:21:37- ..have been praising the location - and the new building.
0:21:37 > 0:21:42- It's good for the staff - and of course the customers.
0:21:42 > 0:21:46- In short, what are your predictions - for the coming year?
0:21:46 > 0:21:48- Will it be a difficult year?
0:21:48 > 0:21:53- I don't think the start of the year - will be as good as last year.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55- At the start of last year...
0:21:55 > 0:21:59- ..lambs were fetching - an average of up to 2 per kilo.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- I don't believe prices - will be at that level this year.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06- It will not be easy.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09- Some sectors suffered last year...
0:22:09 > 0:22:14- ..for instance the dairy sector - and mountain lambs.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17- It won't be easy for us - as a company.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20- We'll try our best - for our customers...
0:22:21 > 0:22:23- ..and for farmers from Clwyd - and beyond...
0:22:24 > 0:22:27- ..to get the prices they deserve - for their produce.
0:22:28 > 0:22:31- I have to say - that their produce is excellent.
0:22:34 > 0:22:37- We'll see what the year brings. - Only time will tell.
0:22:38 > 0:22:42- Thanks for your company. We'll - see you at the same time next week.
0:22:42 > 0:22:43- Goodbye.
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