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0:00:17 > 0:00:20- Hello and welcome to Ffermio.
0:00:20 > 0:00:26- Over the last few weeks, the Basic - Payments which farmers receive...
0:00:26 > 0:00:29- ..have dominated the headlines.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33- Many have not received a penny, - and others have been penalized.
0:00:34 > 0:00:36- The big questions we'll be asking...
0:00:36 > 0:00:39- ..are what is the reason - behind these payments...
0:00:40 > 0:00:43- ..and how much - does the rural economy rely on them?
0:00:44 > 0:00:47- Also on the programme, - Daloni will be in the kitchen...
0:00:47 > 0:00:50- ..visiting a company - based on a farm.
0:00:50 > 0:00:54- They use local produce - to provide essential services...
0:00:54 > 0:00:57- ..to residents - of the Lleyn Peninsula.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00- But first, from Lleyn to Penllyn...
0:01:00 > 0:01:05- ..where Alun meets a group - of fencers who work in all weathers.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09- Traditionally, the winter months...
0:01:09 > 0:01:13- ..are when we carry out maintenance - on our farms.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16- Despite the wet weather - we've had recently...
0:01:16 > 0:01:21- ..it's still possible to do this - thanks to specialist equipment.
0:01:21 > 0:01:26- This is good news to one company - of contractors from Llanuwchllyn.
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- Penllyn Fencing is a partnership - between father and son...
0:01:36 > 0:01:38- ..Richard and Gwynant Roberts.
0:01:38 > 0:01:43- They're rushed off their feet - with work from local farmers...
0:01:43 > 0:01:45- ..whatever the weather.
0:01:47 > 0:01:52- Dad started the company 30 years ago - in an attempt to keep me at home...
0:01:52 > 0:01:56- ..instead of gallivanting - around the world.
0:01:57 > 0:02:01- He formed business connections - with a lot of farmers...
0:02:01 > 0:02:04- ..for whom he worked every year.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10- He made the money, - I became a partner and spent it all.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14- You've spent it on fancy gadgets - to develop the company.
0:02:14 > 0:02:17- That's the only way - I could see a future.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- Either buy new machinery - or stay as we were.
0:02:20 > 0:02:24- We've bought the most - up-to-date machines available.
0:02:25 > 0:02:27- Everything is going well.
0:02:28 > 0:02:32- The only thing missing as far as - I can see is a cab on that machine.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34- The weather is horrendous.
0:02:34 > 0:02:36- With this weather, - we need more than a cab.
0:02:37 > 0:02:41- How many people do you employ? - The business has grown, hasn't it?
0:02:41 > 0:02:45- The business has grown a lot - over the past three or four years.
0:02:46 > 0:02:47- Dad and I are partners.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52- We have two lads who work for us - full-time and two who are part-time.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56- The Glastir Advanced Scheme - covers fencing...
0:02:56 > 0:02:59- ..planting trees and bushes - and restoring hedgerows.
0:03:00 > 0:03:03- The intention is to slow the effects - of climate change...
0:03:03 > 0:03:06- ..ensure better water management...
0:03:06 > 0:03:09- ..and to maintain - and improve biodiversity.
0:03:09 > 0:03:13- Farmers know that good boundaries - make good neighbours...
0:03:14 > 0:03:16- ..and improve farm management.
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- At least 60% of our work - comes from the Glastir scheme.
0:03:20 > 0:03:25- It's a great scheme for us - and for everybody in the area.
0:03:25 > 0:03:31- Everybody gets a slice of the pie, - not just the farmer.
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- The farmer pays us for fencing - and we pay the boys' salaries...
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- ..which keeps the money local.
0:03:37 > 0:03:42- I think it's extremely important to - keep the money in the local economy.
0:03:42 > 0:03:47- It goes around everybody - very neatly.
0:03:47 > 0:03:48- I'm sure.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- The conditions - are quite challenging today...
0:03:52 > 0:03:54- ..and have been - for the past few months.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- But these days, - the weather doesn't bother you.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01- There's so much work - with the Glastir Scheme...
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- ..that you have to finish the work - on time.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07- We have to work - whatever the weather.
0:04:07 > 0:04:12- A lot of that is to do with the fact - that you have the new track machine.
0:04:12 > 0:04:14- With the systems we have now...
0:04:15 > 0:04:18- ..we only need - to run along the fence twice.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20- It doesn't make much mess.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24- The ground pressure - isn't as heavy as with a tractor.
0:04:24 > 0:04:27- It's so much better - in terms of mess.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31- What were you doing to the hedgerow - at Dol Fach today?
0:04:31 > 0:04:35- Robin Post, a local lad, - is laying the hedging.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38- Again, - that's through the Glastir Scheme.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40- We're erecting a fence - either side of it.
0:04:41 > 0:04:43- The hedgerow should then be tidy...
0:04:43 > 0:04:46- ..and meet Glastir's requirements - for wildlife.
0:04:46 > 0:04:49- It also makes it - more aesthetically pleasing.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54- How many metres do you cover - in a day when you go full blast?
0:04:54 > 0:04:55- I don't know.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58- We did 250 metres this morning.
0:04:58 > 0:05:03- We've gone up to 600 metres a day - in some places.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06- If we could do that every day, - it would be great.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15- Euros Roberts - is involved in the Glastir Scheme.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18- He farms at Dol Fach - near Llanuwchllyn.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21- If it wasn't for the grants...
0:05:22 > 0:05:25- ..it's possible - hedgerows would never get done.
0:05:25 > 0:05:30- The grants - help to protect the hedgerows...
0:05:30 > 0:05:34- ..which provide shelter - for man and animal alike.
0:05:35 > 0:05:40- If the funding wasn't available, - you'd have to do the work yourself.
0:05:40 > 0:05:45- How much time does a farmer have - to carry out work like that?
0:05:45 > 0:05:51- During winter, most of our time - is spent feeding and watering.
0:05:51 > 0:05:56- Then we come to lambing season, - which involves more work with sheep.
0:05:56 > 0:06:00- It's rare that we get a couple - of spare hours to do the work.
0:06:00 > 0:06:05- Thanks to the funding, it's easier - to get professionals in to do it.
0:06:05 > 0:06:06- They're fast as well.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09- They're fast as well.- - They have all the tools for the job.
0:06:09 > 0:06:14- With the track machine, they don't - make much of a mess on the land.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17- It's been - an extremely wet three months.
0:06:17 > 0:06:20- The fields have been flooded - more often than not...
0:06:21 > 0:06:22- ..over the last few weeks.
0:06:23 > 0:06:25- These lads don't make much mess.
0:06:28 > 0:06:31- What are your plans for the future?
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- Are you hoping - to expand the business?
0:06:34 > 0:06:38- We haven't made any plans. - We never have done.
0:06:38 > 0:06:40- Everything just happens.
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- If we expand, we expand, - but I'm happy as we are.
0:06:45 > 0:06:51- I'm sure your father is very proud - of you following in his footsteps.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53- I'm sure he is.
0:06:53 > 0:06:56- I'm more proud of the fact - that he's still with us...
0:06:56 > 0:07:00- ..getting frustrated - and telling us what to do.
0:07:00 > 0:07:01- It's lovely.
0:07:09 > 0:07:11- When you live in the countryside...
0:07:11 > 0:07:16- ..entrepreneurship is a useful - virtue in order to earn a living.
0:07:16 > 0:07:21- This week, Daloni meets a family - who offer a unique service...
0:07:21 > 0:07:25- ..providing a home-made - meals on wheels service.
0:07:36 > 0:07:41- Caffi Ni is the new business venture - of Dylan and Nia Humphreys, Y Wern.
0:07:41 > 0:07:45- It's a permanent cafe which offers - hot drinks and home-made meals.
0:07:45 > 0:07:50- However, they also go a step further - to please their customers.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53- They transport hot meals - directly to your front door.
0:07:55 > 0:07:57- This has always been my home.
0:07:58 > 0:08:02- We have been farmers over the years.
0:08:02 > 0:08:08- We decided to diversify and turn one - of the fields into a caravan park.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- There's a campsite - on this side of the lane.
0:08:13 > 0:08:16- The cafe is a development of that.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20- A year ago, - we renovated the campsite.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- We built toilets - and a new shower block.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26- We decided to build a little hut...
0:08:26 > 0:08:31- ..in which to make bacon sandwiches - for the visitors.
0:08:31 > 0:08:36- It developed from there - as they wanted food in the evening.
0:08:36 > 0:08:38- That's how it happened.
0:08:40 > 0:08:46- Nia and Dylan work tirelessly - and understand each other perfectly.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50- You are the master chef, Dylan.
0:08:51 > 0:08:53- I wouldn't say that.
0:08:53 > 0:08:57- Nia is the boss - and I'm the gopher.
0:08:57 > 0:09:01- Nia takes the orders. - The phone never stops ringing.
0:09:01 > 0:09:01- It's very busy.
0:09:01 > 0:09:03- It's very busy.- - It's always like this.
0:09:03 > 0:09:04- Every day.
0:09:05 > 0:09:07- Even in the winter - when it should be quiet?
0:09:08 > 0:09:10- It should be quiet, but it isn't.
0:09:10 > 0:09:11- Do you enjoy the work?
0:09:11 > 0:09:12- Do you enjoy the work?- - I love it.
0:09:12 > 0:09:16- I used to be a plumber - but I gave it up to work from home.
0:09:16 > 0:09:18- It's the best thing I ever did.
0:09:18 > 0:09:22- Do you like experimenting - with different foods?
0:09:22 > 0:09:26- I try. It doesn't always work out, - but it does most of the time.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36- When an order reaches the cafe...
0:09:37 > 0:09:39- ..it's processed - and prepared straight away.
0:09:42 > 0:09:43- What are we doing?
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- Could you chop the leeks - for me, please?
0:09:48 > 0:09:49- OK.
0:09:49 > 0:09:50- Into small slices.
0:09:51 > 0:09:52- What pies are we making?
0:09:52 > 0:09:54- What pies are we making?- - Chicken, ham and leek.
0:09:54 > 0:09:55- The ham is ready.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57- The ham is ready.- - The ham was boiled this morning.
0:09:58 > 0:09:58- Where do you source your meat?
0:09:58 > 0:10:02- Where do you source your meat?- - We get it from Povey's in Chwilog.
0:10:02 > 0:10:03- That's not far away.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05- That's not far away.- - No, and it's very good meat.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09- We also use Arwyn in Edern.
0:10:09 > 0:10:11- One of the reasons for using him...
0:10:12 > 0:10:15- ..is that he keeps his cattle - on the fields in Wern.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18- Next door to here?
0:10:19 > 0:10:23- It's lovely that you can - honestly say to your customers...
0:10:24 > 0:10:29- ..that their steak had been grazing - on the farmland at Wern.
0:10:29 > 0:10:30- That's great.
0:10:31 > 0:10:32- Yes.
0:10:32 > 0:10:33- Yes.- - It's important.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35- Yes, we buy everything locally.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39- We like to cook - with fresh, local produce.
0:10:39 > 0:10:41- OK, the ham.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- The leek.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- Just waiting for the chicken - and then we're off.
0:10:47 > 0:10:48- Is the chicken ready, Dylan?
0:10:48 > 0:10:50- Is the chicken ready, Dylan?- - Yes, it's ready, Daloni.
0:10:50 > 0:10:51- You have to keep him in order!
0:10:51 > 0:10:53- You have to keep him in order!- - You have to keep him in order!
0:11:03 > 0:11:05- Stir it, Daloni.
0:11:05 > 0:11:06- Stir it, Daloni.- - OK, Dylan!
0:11:08 > 0:11:12- Goodness me, this man can be bossy!
0:11:12 > 0:11:13- Yes.
0:11:13 > 0:11:14- Is he always like that?
0:11:14 > 0:11:15- Is he always like that?- - Yes.
0:11:16 > 0:11:17- Nobody listens to me though!
0:11:17 > 0:11:19- Nobody listens to me though!- - More stock, please, chef.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26- Excuse me. It's hard work.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34- Nia was born and brought up - here at Wern.
0:11:34 > 0:11:39- Her father, Twm, still looks after - the animals on the farm.
0:11:41 > 0:11:42- It's a good place for a cuppa, Twm.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44- It's a good place for a cuppa, Twm.- - Yes, very good.
0:11:45 > 0:11:47- For pastries too.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49- Is she good at making pastries?
0:11:49 > 0:11:50- Is she good at making pastries?- - Too good.
0:11:50 > 0:11:51- Do they look after you?
0:11:51 > 0:11:52- Do they look after you?- - Indeed they do.
0:11:53 > 0:11:54- You're busy outside.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56- You're busy outside.- - Yes, I am.
0:11:56 > 0:11:58- I help with the calves.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01- What's the story with the calves?
0:12:01 > 0:12:04- I raise them every year.
0:12:04 > 0:12:08- Then after about eight months...
0:12:08 > 0:12:14- ..we sell them to Evan Williams - and John, Coedty Mawr, Talsarnau.
0:12:14 > 0:12:16- You raise calves and farm caravans.
0:12:16 > 0:12:17- Yes.
0:12:18 > 0:12:20- Which is easier?
0:12:22 > 0:12:23- I prefer the calves.
0:12:23 > 0:12:24- I prefer the calves.- - Yes?!
0:12:25 > 0:12:27- But there's more profit - in the caravans.
0:12:31 > 0:12:35- There's nothing complicated or grand - being prepared here.
0:12:35 > 0:12:38- Caffi Ni offers honest, tasty food.
0:12:38 > 0:12:43- If required, - it can be delivered to your door.
0:12:44 > 0:12:48- When a customer phones, we ask - if they want the food delivered...
0:12:48 > 0:12:50- ..or if they want to collect it.
0:12:51 > 0:12:54- Eight times out of ten, - they ask for it to be delivered.
0:12:55 > 0:12:59- I put the food in the fridge - in the back of the car and off I go.
0:12:59 > 0:13:02- And you get to have a chat - with them.
0:13:02 > 0:13:07- Yes, then Nia calls and says, "Where - are you? There's another order."
0:13:08 > 0:13:09- You're in your element.
0:13:09 > 0:13:11- You're in your element.- - It's the best thing I've ever done.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- If the chicken is as good - as last week, it'll be great.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- Take care now. Ta-ra.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26- Well, Daloni, here's your pie.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- I hope you'll enjoy it.
0:13:28 > 0:13:32- It looks great and smells great too.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- Thanks for the welcome.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36- One more thing before I go.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40- Caffi Ni has been galloping along - for a year...
0:13:40 > 0:13:42- ..so what's next, Nia?
0:13:43 > 0:13:47- We intend to continue - making fresh, home-made food...
0:13:48 > 0:13:50- ..using local produce.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55- We hope people continue - to enjoy the food we produce.
0:13:56 > 0:14:00- If we continue like this, we'll have - to employ somebody else to cook.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- I'd be more than happy to help...
0:14:03 > 0:14:07- ..if it means I get to take a pie - like this home every night.
0:14:07 > 0:14:09- The only thing - you have to remember is...
0:14:10 > 0:14:13- .."From oven to tummy, - no fuss and it's yummy."
0:14:20 > 0:14:23- That's all - for this part of the programme.
0:14:23 > 0:14:28- Come back shortly to Trefaes Fawr - Farm in Beulah, Newcastle Emlyn...
0:14:28 > 0:14:31- ..where NFU Cymru - has organized a unique event...
0:14:31 > 0:14:36- ..to prove how dependent - the rural community is on farmers.
0:14:36 > 0:14:38- We'll see you in two minutes.
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0:14:47 > 0:14:49- Welcome back.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53- In addition to producing food, - looking after the landscape...
0:14:53 > 0:14:57- ..and conservation, farmers - support many local businesses.
0:14:57 > 0:15:01- Today, at Trefaes Fawr Farm - in Beulah, Newcastle Emlyn...
0:15:01 > 0:15:04- ..over 50 businesses - have come together...
0:15:04 > 0:15:08- ..to show the positive effects - of the Basic Payment...
0:15:08 > 0:15:10- ..on the local economy.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19- Huw and Carys Davies have been - farming here for over 30 years.
0:15:19 > 0:15:23- Huw was recently appointed - chairman of the NFU in Ceredigion.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27- He farms 800 acres, - keeps 1,500 sheep...
0:15:27 > 0:15:30- ..and finishes 300 cattle - every year.
0:15:30 > 0:15:34- Following a challenging period - for the industry...
0:15:34 > 0:15:38- ..and despite being - a costly time of year for farmers...
0:15:38 > 0:15:41- ..Huw is still waiting - for his Basic Payment.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- What message - do you want to emphasize today?
0:15:45 > 0:15:49- We want to show the public - and the Welsh Government...
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..that the money - isn't coming to the farms.
0:15:52 > 0:15:58- We're still waiting and there are - workers we need to pay.
0:15:58 > 0:16:04- If we don't get paid, then we can't - pay them for their hard work.
0:16:04 > 0:16:09- They also employ 10-12 people and - their families are also affected.
0:16:09 > 0:16:10- It's ongoing.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13- The money has to come in to go out.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16- We get so little for our produce...
0:16:16 > 0:16:20- ..that it's difficult to make money.
0:16:20 > 0:16:25- How many companies depend on you - as a farmer here at Trefaes Fawr?
0:16:25 > 0:16:29- There are 50 companies here today.
0:16:29 > 0:16:32- There are many - working for those companies.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35- However, - only 30% of Scottish farmers...
0:16:36 > 0:16:38- ..have received - part of their payments...
0:16:39 > 0:16:41- ..compared - with 80% of Welsh farmers.
0:16:42 > 0:16:46- Is that 80% figure true? - That's hard to believe.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49- We've asked people at meetings - to raise their hands...
0:16:50 > 0:16:52- ..if they - haven't received the payment.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55- More than 50% - have raised their hands.
0:16:56 > 0:16:58- I spoke to a bank manager...
0:16:58 > 0:17:00- ..who asked Rebecca Evans...
0:17:01 > 0:17:06- ..if she'd chosen - one bank specifically to pay 77%.
0:17:06 > 0:17:11- The percentage of farmers who'd been - accepted who banked at his bank...
0:17:11 > 0:17:12- ..was nowhere near 50%.
0:17:13 > 0:17:17- One who does a lot of contracting - for Huw and his family...
0:17:17 > 0:17:21- ..is Gareth James, - Stepside Farm, Cardigan.
0:17:21 > 0:17:25- Along with sons Daniel and Edward, - he runs a contracting company.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29- They rely on the farmer's money - to earn a living.
0:17:30 > 0:17:34- His services range from treating - the land to slurry and silage.
0:17:34 > 0:17:36- He employs seven workers.
0:17:38 > 0:17:42- We started contracting back in 1972.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46- This is the worst year I've seen...
0:17:48 > 0:17:54- ..in terms of receiving - the Basic Payment.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57- It hasn't arrived on time.
0:17:59 > 0:18:03- It's had a huge effect on cash flow.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06- We've invested - thousands of pounds...
0:18:07 > 0:18:11- ..on new and second-hand machines.
0:18:12 > 0:18:16- They cost a lot of money - to maintain.
0:18:17 > 0:18:23- Money needs to be coming in - quite regularly.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25- I'll give you an example.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- I went to a place last Friday.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- There was a substantial bill.
0:18:32 > 0:18:33- It was almost 7,000.
0:18:34 > 0:18:38- I went indoors - and had a cup of tea and a chat.
0:18:38 > 0:18:41- The answer I was given was...
0:18:41 > 0:18:45- .."When I receive the Basic Payment, - I'll pay up."
0:18:45 > 0:18:47- I know he will pay.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51- But it's high time - that the government helped out.
0:18:51 > 0:18:56- Why has there been this delay?
0:18:56 > 0:19:01- The knock-on effect - is unbelievable.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04- To be honest, - I couldn't run the business...
0:19:05 > 0:19:09- ..without support - from the finance companies.
0:19:10 > 0:19:14- One machine on the farmyard...
0:19:14 > 0:19:17- ..costs almost 300,000.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20- If it wasn't for finance - being available...
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- ..I couldn't provide farmers - with a service.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28- You couldn't pay the staff - who work for you either.
0:19:28 > 0:19:29- Yes.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32- We pay the lads' wages every month.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36- At the end of the month, - it's a substantial sum.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39- You have to pay.
0:19:39 > 0:19:43- Once we're unable to pay the staff, - it's all over for us.
0:19:43 > 0:19:47- But if nothing comes any time soon, - I don't know what'll happen.
0:19:48 > 0:19:53- I don't touch a dairy cow - or a fattened animal...
0:19:53 > 0:19:56- ..or have anything to do with sheep.
0:19:56 > 0:20:02- However, we produce - what goes in here...
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- ..and what comes out the other end.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07- That's what we do.
0:20:07 > 0:20:11- We depend on the farmer - to make a living.
0:20:14 > 0:20:15- As well as contractors...
0:20:16 > 0:20:20- ..a variety of local businesses - have come to Trefaes Fawr today...
0:20:20 > 0:20:22- ..to an NFU Cymru event.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27- I used to be a builder.
0:20:27 > 0:20:31- I was in the new homes market...
0:20:31 > 0:20:33- ..before the recession hit.
0:20:33 > 0:20:37- I employed around 35 craftsmen.
0:20:38 > 0:20:42- After the recession, - I had to lay off all the workers.
0:20:42 > 0:20:46- It's farmers who've kept us going - since the last recession.
0:20:47 > 0:20:49- Without the farmer, - I'd be out of work.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55- Things are tough for farmers - at the moment.
0:20:55 > 0:21:00- We have to look now - at diversifying.
0:21:01 > 0:21:05- Unless the farmers keep going, - there's no future for us.
0:21:06 > 0:21:09- It's an important message - for the politicians.
0:21:10 > 0:21:15- They must realize that the benefit - goes further than the farmer.
0:21:15 > 0:21:19- It's paid to farmers, but it works - its way through the community.
0:21:20 > 0:21:25- The whole rural community - has come together here today.
0:21:25 > 0:21:27- People have had a chance to chat.
0:21:27 > 0:21:32- It's underlined - just how interdependent we all are.
0:21:33 > 0:21:38- If you're a hairdresser, - a solicitor like me...
0:21:38 > 0:21:41- ..or you run a clothes shop...
0:21:41 > 0:21:46- ..we all depend on each other - and on the agricultural industry.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50- We hope it goes on from here.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- You have to start somewhere - and this is it.
0:21:53 > 0:21:58- You have to keep looking - to the future, not back to the past.
0:21:59 > 0:22:03- What is your overriding message - as a farmer to the politicians?
0:22:04 > 0:22:08- Do they know - what is going on in the countryside?
0:22:08 > 0:22:12- I hope they realize - before it's too late.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15- Once that point comes - and there's no-one to take over...
0:22:16 > 0:22:17- ..what happens then?
0:22:17 > 0:22:20- What else is there - in the countryside?
0:22:20 > 0:22:25- They want us - to care for the countryside...
0:22:25 > 0:22:28- ..and keep the hedgerows in order.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30- We've been doing that for centuries.
0:22:31 > 0:22:33- Our ancestors did it.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37- It's our back garden. - You take pride in it.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- Does the government - get value for money?
0:22:41 > 0:22:46- Yes - we look after the countryside - and the wildlife within it...
0:22:46 > 0:22:49- ..as well as producing - high-quality food.
0:22:49 > 0:22:55- The public is always looking - for that high-quality food product.
0:22:58 > 0:23:01- It's definitely value for money.
0:23:01 > 0:23:03- You can see that...
0:23:04 > 0:23:09- ..by the high numbers of visitors - we get in terms of tourism.
0:23:09 > 0:23:14- Someone has to look after it and the - farmers are doing that right now.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- That's all from this programme.
0:23:17 > 0:23:21- It's difficult financially - for many people right now.
0:23:21 > 0:23:26- We've seen today that the subsidies - received by farmers are crucial...
0:23:26 > 0:23:32- ..to maintain a successful future - for the entire rural community...
0:23:32 > 0:23:35- ..not just - for the agricultural sector.
0:23:35 > 0:23:38- Until next time, - thanks for joining us.
0:23:38 > 0:23:39- Goodnight.
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