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0:00:20 > 0:00:22- Over the last 80 years...
0:00:22 > 0:00:27- ..the riverbank has been - like a second home to me.
0:00:27 > 0:00:32- My fishing rod comes out almost - every day to catch a few fish.
0:00:32 > 0:00:34- Some are bigger than others!
0:00:34 > 0:00:38- But I'm sure I've caught - thousands of fish in my time.
0:00:39 > 0:00:40- Having said that...
0:00:41 > 0:00:43- ..if I'm not fishing - on the riverbank...
0:00:44 > 0:00:46- ..I'm walking in the countryside...
0:00:47 > 0:00:51- ..enjoying the wealth of wildlife - that Wales has to offer.
0:00:56 > 0:00:57- I've had the privilege...
0:00:58 > 0:01:02- ..of meeting an array of colourful - characters, both young and old.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05- Twenty five years ago...
0:01:05 > 0:01:11- ..I met with the wildlife expert, - Iolo Williams.
0:01:11 > 0:01:14- He's now a superstar in his field.
0:01:14 > 0:01:20- For the first time in years, we're - at one of Iolo's favourite places.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25- It's a nature reserve - that's very close to his heart.
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- Today, we're at the - RSPB Ynys-hir nature reserve...
0:01:36 > 0:01:40- ..that sits between Machynlleth - and Aberystwyth.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43- It's a very special reserve.
0:01:43 > 0:01:48- It boasts forests, an estuary - and a mountainous area...
0:01:48 > 0:01:52- ..so this place is thriving - with various wildlife.
0:01:53 > 0:01:58- I was last here a year - and a half ago with Springwatch.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01- Thanks to Springwatch...
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- ..this site is well-known - in Britain and the world.
0:02:05 > 0:02:10- These types of habitats - are being lost in our countryside.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14- Yes, these sites - are very rare nowadays.
0:02:14 > 0:02:19- We're so lucky that places - such as this one still exist today.
0:02:19 > 0:02:20- So lucky.
0:02:20 > 0:02:26- Were you working with the RSPB - 20 years ago?
0:02:27 > 0:02:31- Yes, I was a young man with a - full head of hair that wasn't grey!
0:02:32 > 0:02:36- Yes, I worked for the RSPB - from 1984 to 1998.
0:02:37 > 0:02:43- I worked there for 15 years before - entering television and radio.
0:02:43 > 0:02:44- And a star was born!
0:02:44 > 0:02:47- And a star was born!- - It's all thanks to you, Moc.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52- Take hold of its legs first.
0:02:53 > 0:02:55- That's it. Come here.
0:02:55 > 0:02:57- They are so pretty.
0:02:57 > 0:02:58- Shall I hold it?
0:02:59 > 0:03:00- Hold it at the back, Moc.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04- Watch out for its legs. - They are the dangerous part.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- The beak is fine - and you're rarely bitten with it.
0:03:08 > 0:03:11- Let me take it from you.
0:03:11 > 0:03:15- I want to put the ring on - without harming the bird.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18- The tags are interesting.
0:03:18 > 0:03:21- This year, the male birds...
0:03:22 > 0:03:25- ..have a blue tag in the left wing.
0:03:25 > 0:03:29- It has a good and caring mother.
0:03:29 > 0:03:31- She is a good mother.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34- She isn't here as these - are old enough to be left alone.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- She's hunting for food - at the moment.
0:03:38 > 0:03:41- If she comes back, she will attack.
0:03:41 > 0:03:42- Is she fierce?
0:03:42 > 0:03:43- Is she fierce?- - Yes, very fierce.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- Iolo is obviously - an ornithologist at heart.
0:03:52 > 0:03:57- We start our morning - at the Domen Las Hide.
0:03:58 > 0:04:00- Those are strangers, Iolo.
0:04:01 > 0:04:05- They have come - all the way from Canada...
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- ..and some would prefer it - if they stayed in Canada!
0:04:09 > 0:04:13- The Canada goose has been - in this country for 150 years.
0:04:13 > 0:04:18- They were primarily introduced - for the shooting season.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23- These days, - they have increased in numbers...
0:04:23 > 0:04:25- ..and especially - in the last 20 years.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30- I remember coming here - when there were some geese...
0:04:30 > 0:04:33- ..but there are hundreds - of thousands here now.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- Conservationists claim that they are - pushing the other birds out...
0:04:39 > 0:04:40- ..and are quite vicious.
0:04:41 > 0:04:45- There's also a little family - of birds on the edge of the water.
0:04:45 > 0:04:50- As a fisherman, I know - that you love these birds, Moc.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54- In Welsh, it's a hwyaden ddanheddog - or goosander.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57- When I think of all the birds...
0:04:57 > 0:05:01- ..I think the goosander is one - of the best mothers to be had.
0:05:02 > 0:05:06- She raises a large family - which is unfortunate for fishermen!
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- Yes, she is a good mother.
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- If we take a look over there, - we can see thirteen of them.
0:05:14 > 0:05:18- I suspect it's a mother - with twelve ducklings.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20- They are excellent mothers.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23- They nest in holes in the trees.
0:05:23 > 0:05:25- As soon as the eggs hatch...
0:05:25 > 0:05:29- ..they jump out and - lead the ducklings to the water...
0:05:29 > 0:05:31- ..and stay with them - for four months.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36- Look at the Canada geese flying by.
0:05:36 > 0:05:38- They are so noisy, Moc.
0:05:38 > 0:05:41- I often find myself - fishing on a lake.
0:05:41 > 0:05:45- Everything is peaceful - and I'm watching the fish...
0:05:46 > 0:05:51- ..and these fly overhead - with their cacophonous cries.
0:05:51 > 0:05:55- I can tell - that you don't like them, Moc.
0:05:55 > 0:06:01- I know what you mean but when I'm - having a cuppa outdoors at home...
0:06:01 > 0:06:07- ..and I see a flock of these birds - flying overhead in a V formation...
0:06:07 > 0:06:11- ..I prefer to see them - than nothing at all.
0:06:12 > 0:06:13- Oh, a heron.
0:06:13 > 0:06:14- Oh, a heron.- - Look at that.
0:06:14 > 0:06:15- A young heron.
0:06:15 > 0:06:17- A young heron.- - I call it a crychydd cam.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20- It flew straight passed us.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22- Oh, it's landed.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24- It's a youngster.
0:06:24 > 0:06:28- The black and white pattern - hasn't developed...
0:06:28 > 0:06:31- ..so it doesn't look like - a proper heron yet.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- Now that's what I call a fisherman.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36- Oh, yes.
0:06:36 > 0:06:41- It enters the water - as if it's walking on eggshells.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44- It walks along gingerly.
0:06:44 > 0:06:47- All of a sudden, - it plunges its head into the water.
0:06:48 > 0:06:49- It has caught a fish.
0:06:50 > 0:06:54- People think the kingfisher - reigns over hunting fish...
0:06:55 > 0:06:57- ..but this is the true king.
0:06:57 > 0:07:00- I know that some fishermen - don't like these birds.
0:07:01 > 0:07:02- I think it's jealousy.
0:07:03 > 0:07:08- The fisherman can't catch a thing - but the heron always gets his fish!
0:07:08 > 0:07:10- It's jealousy, Moc.
0:07:10 > 0:07:15- We've known each other for years - but we don't agree on everything!
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- The Ynys-hir nature reserve - covers 600 hectares.
0:07:25 > 0:07:27- It's full of rare - and wonderful habitats.
0:07:28 > 0:07:33- Our next location is found - on the other side of the reserve...
0:07:33 > 0:07:37- ..and it has changed a lot - in the last 20 years.
0:07:45 > 0:07:49- It's wonderful to walk here, Iolo.
0:07:49 > 0:07:51- Let's look to the side.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54- Would you call this a lowland?
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- Yes, it's a lowland heath.
0:07:58 > 0:08:02- When I first came here - over a quarter of a century ago...
0:08:03 > 0:08:05- ..it was very different.
0:08:05 > 0:08:10- At that time, this section - was nothing but thick rhododendrons.
0:08:10 > 0:08:12- They kill everything in their wake.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- They kill everything in their wake.- - Yes, everything.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16- There was nothing else here.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20- When I say thick, - I really mean thick.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- Everything underneath had died.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26- Yes, but thank heavens for the RSPB.
0:08:26 > 0:08:28- They cut back every plant.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30- It's a long-term process.
0:08:31 > 0:08:35- You have to come back every year - for about seven years...
0:08:35 > 0:08:37- ..before everything has gone.
0:08:38 > 0:08:43- Today, it's a clear, lowland heath - which is a rare habitat in Wales.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47- We only have to look behind us...
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- ..and we find a cemetery of trees.
0:08:51 > 0:08:55- That's a wonderful description - of this area, Moc.
0:08:56 > 0:08:57- These have died...
0:08:58 > 0:09:03- ..because the wardens have broken - the bark around the trunk.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06- The bark is made up of living cells.
0:09:06 > 0:09:10- They carry water - from the ground upwards...
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- ..and food from the leaves - to the roots.
0:09:13 > 0:09:15- Break that and the tree dies.
0:09:15 > 0:09:20- They kill them off - to stop them from spreading.
0:09:20 > 0:09:25- In no time at all, this - lowland heath would be a forest!
0:09:25 > 0:09:30- It isn't necessarily a bad thing but - this site is already full of trees.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35- The lowland heath is a rare habitat - that needs preserving.
0:09:35 > 0:09:40- However, they didn't remove - the trees but have kept them...
0:09:40 > 0:09:45- ..because they are also - an excellent habitat for beetles...
0:09:45 > 0:09:51- ..who provide sustenance for birds - such as the woodpecker.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54- They also provide food - for an array of fungi.
0:09:54 > 0:10:00- When I was a boy, I remember - a botanist telling me about the oak.
0:10:00 > 0:10:01- It's the king of trees.
0:10:02 > 0:10:05- He said that the oak - takes three centuries to grow...
0:10:05 > 0:10:09- ..three centuries to live - and three centuries to die.
0:10:09 > 0:10:14- They are at their most valuable - to wildlife when they are dying.
0:10:14 > 0:10:18- And that is what will happen here.
0:10:18 > 0:10:24- Everything that is dying here - will help to sustain the future.
0:10:24 > 0:10:25- Yes, definitely.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28- It will be left in this condition.
0:10:28 > 0:10:32- During a storm, - the trees will fall and decompose.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- The lowland heath will expand - to the other side of the walkway...
0:10:36 > 0:10:40- ..giving a rare habitat - that is full of wildlife.
0:10:52 > 0:10:57- It's wonderful to sit down - and admire the surroundings.
0:10:57 > 0:11:00- One phrase springs to mind.
0:11:00 > 0:11:02- "I am the lord of the glen."
0:11:02 > 0:11:04- The place is glorious.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07- It's truly wonderful.
0:11:07 > 0:11:13- I first came here as a - six-year-old boy with Mam and Dad...
0:11:13 > 0:11:17- ..and I've come back every year.
0:11:17 > 0:11:23- I think Ynys-hir isn't just - my favourite place in Wales...
0:11:23 > 0:11:25- ..but in the whole world!
0:11:26 > 0:11:28- What are your hopes now?
0:11:29 > 0:11:34- You've travelled across Wales and - know it better than anyone I know.
0:11:34 > 0:11:37- What are your hopes for the future?
0:11:37 > 0:11:40- I'd like us all - to appreciate these sites more.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- This is one site - where the RSPB has been successful.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- They have educated people, - especially children...
0:11:50 > 0:11:54- ..about the importance of wildlife - and these sites.
0:11:54 > 0:11:58- I really hope - that after I am dead and buried...
0:11:58 > 0:12:03- ..that the generations to come can - still enjoy sites such as Ynys-hir.
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0:12:18 > 0:12:21- Wales boasts - some wonderful rivers...
0:12:22 > 0:12:27- ..but nothing beats the River Towy - on a fine August morning.
0:12:28 > 0:12:33- Iolo and I have returned to meet an - old friend called Spencer Edwards.
0:12:34 > 0:12:36- He usually fishes - on the River Teifi...
0:12:37 > 0:12:41- ..but has travelled west - to join us for a special journey.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44- It's been almost 20 years...
0:12:44 > 0:12:50- ..since Spencer and I - came to the River Towy...
0:12:50 > 0:12:53- ..and bumped into Iolo - on the riverbank.
0:12:54 > 0:12:59- This river has changed a lot - during those 20 years.
0:12:59 > 0:13:02- And it hasn't been for the better.
0:13:03 > 0:13:08- Yes, I'd agree with Spencer because - the river is highly polluted.
0:13:08 > 0:13:11- You know that the number of fish - has dropped...
0:13:12 > 0:13:14- ..but there is some good news.
0:13:14 > 0:13:20- Walkers believe that otters are more - popular than they were 20 years ago.
0:13:20 > 0:13:25- Some things have changed - for the better.
0:13:25 > 0:13:31- When you travel down the river - and look from the boat...
0:13:31 > 0:13:36- ..it's very different to looking - into the river from its banks.
0:13:36 > 0:13:38- Yes, that's right.
0:13:38 > 0:13:41- When you're on the river, - you're a part of nature.
0:13:42 > 0:13:46- I don't think - you frighten the birds as much.
0:13:46 > 0:13:50- Yes, you're quite right - and you see a lot more.
0:13:50 > 0:13:54- You move quietly - and gently over the water.
0:13:54 > 0:13:58- We've seen some sand martins - flying past.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01- They nest in holes along the river.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- This is a great river for them.
0:14:04 > 0:14:10- Do you remember passing under the - bridge in Llandeilo 20 years ago...
0:14:10 > 0:14:16- ..and we saw thousands - upon thousands of march brown?
0:14:16 > 0:14:20- Why do you get - these kind of explosions, Iolo?
0:14:20 > 0:14:23- It's all about timing.
0:14:23 > 0:14:27- If they appeared - in dribs and drabs...
0:14:27 > 0:14:31- ..the fish and birds - would eat every one of them.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- But when there's this explosion...
0:14:34 > 0:14:38- ..you know that some of them - are going to survive...
0:14:38 > 0:14:42- ..to lay eggs - and raise the next generation.
0:14:42 > 0:14:47- It's a tactical move to ensure - that some of them will survive.
0:14:47 > 0:14:51- It's mid-morning - and we take a break from the boat...
0:14:51 > 0:14:54- ..in the shadows of Dinefwr Castle.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57- This section of the river - is very beautiful...
0:14:58 > 0:15:02- ..and is synonymous with - an old friend called David Benjamin.
0:15:02 > 0:15:05- He was a legendary figure - in fishing circles.
0:15:06 > 0:15:10- Every river - has its own character, Iolo.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16- Fishermen use a specific fly - for each of the different rivers.
0:15:17 > 0:15:21- The fly that is very famous - in this area...
0:15:21 > 0:15:23- ..is called the Dai Ben.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26- It's an easy fly to make - and you can help me.
0:15:27 > 0:15:28- Let me show you.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- This feather - has come from a cockerel's neck.
0:15:32 > 0:15:33- Next, we have the hook.
0:15:34 > 0:15:36- This is the hook.
0:15:37 > 0:15:41- We also need some thread or wire - which is attached to the hook.
0:15:42 > 0:15:47- Next, we need some fur - taken from a hare's ear.
0:15:48 > 0:15:50- Place it by the hook....
0:15:50 > 0:15:55- ..and wrap the thread around it.
0:15:55 > 0:15:59- This forms the body of the fly.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04- You can see it all - coming together now.
0:16:04 > 0:16:07- It gives off a little glint.
0:16:07 > 0:16:10- A little glimmer - to catch the fish's eye.
0:16:11 > 0:16:13- You'd make an excellent fisherman.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- Next, we tie it together.
0:16:18 > 0:16:22- Can you give me the feather - that you're holding?
0:16:23 > 0:16:25- It has an important job to do.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28- Let's get rid of the messy parts.
0:16:29 > 0:16:33- Did you know that the feathers - from the neck of the cockerel...
0:16:34 > 0:16:35- ..are worth 50?
0:16:35 > 0:16:36- Are they really?
0:16:36 > 0:16:38- Are they really?- - Yes, that's right.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40- Jimmy Carter once told me...
0:16:41 > 0:16:45- ..about one of his neighbours - in Georgia...
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- ..who had made his millions.
0:16:50 > 0:16:51- His name was Mr Metz.
0:16:51 > 0:16:53- He bred roosters.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57- Wrap the feather around the hook.
0:16:57 > 0:16:58- Yes.
0:16:59 > 0:17:01- And that's it for you.
0:17:01 > 0:17:03- The fly is complete.
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- It's the Dai Ben.
0:17:05 > 0:17:11- David Benjamin - gave his name to the fly.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14- That's great. It looks great.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17- It'll help you catch a lot of fish.
0:17:17 > 0:17:19- Well...
0:17:20 > 0:17:23- Yes, I hope so. I really hope so.
0:17:24 > 0:17:27- Our journey down the Towy - was almost over.
0:17:27 > 0:17:29- And these three wise men...
0:17:29 > 0:17:33- ..had enjoyed a memorable morning - in the boat.
0:17:33 > 0:17:35- We're travelling down the river.
0:17:36 > 0:17:40- We've spotted things we'd never see - from the riverbank.
0:17:40 > 0:17:43- It gives - a totally different perspective.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46- I've enjoyed looking around...
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- ..but you can also gaze - into the water and see the fish.
0:17:51 > 0:17:52- I love that.
0:17:52 > 0:17:55- There was a wren's nest - on the rocks.
0:17:55 > 0:17:57- Yes, all sorts of things.
0:17:57 > 0:18:01- If you float along slowly, - you'll spot old nests....
0:18:01 > 0:18:04- ..and you might even see - an otter one day, Moc!
0:18:04 > 0:18:06- What about you, Spencer?
0:18:06 > 0:18:09- This brings back a lot of memories.
0:18:09 > 0:18:11- Some of them are fond memories...
0:18:12 > 0:18:15- ..whilst there are others - that I'd rather forget!
0:18:15 > 0:18:21- Do you remember what we said at - the end of our journey 20 years ago?
0:18:21 > 0:18:27- We'd completed a dozen Welsh rivers - so I asked, "Where next?"
0:18:27 > 0:18:29- Do you remember your answer?
0:18:30 > 0:18:34- Yes, I said we should go down - the Amazon but we've never been.
0:18:35 > 0:18:36- Let's make a pact now.
0:18:37 > 0:18:41- In 20 years, we'll sail - down the Amazon in this boat.
0:18:41 > 0:18:42- I look forward to it.
0:18:44 > 0:18:47- Which river - shall we travel along next?
0:18:47 > 0:18:51- How about the River Seiont - in Caernarfon?
0:18:52 > 0:18:55- I think the Amazon - would be much better.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58- We'll be alright - if the boat gets up the Amazon.
0:18:58 > 0:18:59- Is that in the west?
0:18:59 > 0:19:01- Is that in the west?- - Yes, that's right!
0:19:13 > 0:19:15- I couldn't leave the Towy Valley...
0:19:16 > 0:19:20- ..without visiting the beautiful - Dinefwr Park near Llandeilo.
0:19:20 > 0:19:22- It's over 200 years old...
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- ..and is currently owned - by the National Trust.
0:19:27 > 0:19:31- The park's grounds are - a major attraction for visitors...
0:19:31 > 0:19:34- ..from all over the country.
0:19:37 > 0:19:42- Iolo, you've travelled the world - and seen some beautiful places...
0:19:43 > 0:19:47- ..but I can't think of a better - thing to do in an afternoon...
0:19:47 > 0:19:51- ..than to sit here - and admire the deer.
0:19:51 > 0:19:56- Dinefwr Park is a wonderful site - for an array of reasons.
0:19:57 > 0:20:00- There's Newton House - and the White Park cattle...
0:20:01 > 0:20:05- ..but the best attraction for me - is this herd of Fallow deer.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09- There are some in the distance - by the trees...
0:20:10 > 0:20:12- ..in the field and over the hill.
0:20:12 > 0:20:14- There's about 150 in total.
0:20:15 > 0:20:20- The people I bring here don't know - that deer are dark and pale colours.
0:20:21 > 0:20:23- They do vary in colour a lot.
0:20:23 > 0:20:29- We can see a classic coloured deer - that's chestnut with white spots.
0:20:29 > 0:20:31- There are some dark ones too.
0:20:31 > 0:20:32- There are some dark ones too.- - Yes, that's right.
0:20:32 > 0:20:37- They can be very dark and - almost black or pale or even grey...
0:20:37 > 0:20:39- ..so it does vary.
0:20:39 > 0:20:41- But these are Fallow deer.
0:20:42 > 0:20:46- They aren't native to Britain but - were introduced by the Normans...
0:20:47 > 0:20:49- ..such as William The Conqueror.
0:20:49 > 0:20:53- They couldn't hunt the Red deer - as they were too wild.
0:20:53 > 0:20:59- They didn't like hunting the Roe - deer because they were too small...
0:20:59 > 0:21:05- ..so they brought these with them - from France and kept them in parks.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07- These were hunting parks.
0:21:07 > 0:21:12- To this day, you will find - large numbers of deer in the wild...
0:21:12 > 0:21:17- ..close to the parks such as Dinefwr - Park, Gelli Aur and Margam Park.
0:21:18 > 0:21:21- This is why I like these parks.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25- What large animals do I see - when I go for a walk at home?
0:21:25 > 0:21:27- Cattle, sheep and nothing else.
0:21:27 > 0:21:31- When I walk here, - I see wild animals such as a deer.
0:21:31 > 0:21:34- I really like that.
0:21:45 > 0:21:49- You've travelled the world, Iolo...
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- ..but we have something - very special in Wales.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56- There's no doubt about it, Moc.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58- I've been very lucky.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02- I've been incredibly lucky - to travel the world...
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- ..and see some amazing things.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07- But that, more than anything else...
0:22:07 > 0:22:09- ..and these two days with you...
0:22:10 > 0:22:14- ..have reminded me that - we're so lucky to live in Wales.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17- Look at what we saw at Ynys-hir.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21- We had the estuary, woodlands, - wetlands and mountains.
0:22:22 > 0:22:26- We saw all that wildlife - from the river.
0:22:26 > 0:22:27- And one or two fish.
0:22:27 > 0:22:29- And one or two fish.- - Yes, one or two fish.
0:22:29 > 0:22:34- At Dinefwr Park, we had the deer, - the ancient trees and red kites...
0:22:34 > 0:22:38- ..and we've only scratched - the surface of it all, Moc.
0:22:38 > 0:22:39- We are very lucky.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43- And I've been very lucky - to be joined by you.
0:22:43 > 0:22:44- I've got one wish.
0:22:45 > 0:22:49- I hope that it isn't another - 20 years before we meet again!
0:22:49 > 0:22:50- I hope not, Moc.
0:22:50 > 0:22:52- Thank you for your company.
0:22:57 > 0:23:02- When I started working - in broadcasting some 30 years ago...
0:23:02 > 0:23:05- ..I never once thought...
0:23:05 > 0:23:10- ..that I'd meet so many - colourful and talented characters.
0:23:11 > 0:23:15- Returning to the archives - has made me realize...
0:23:15 > 0:23:18- ..that I've been very fortunate - over the years...
0:23:18 > 0:23:23- ..to roam and fish in the most - beautiful locations in Wales.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26- It's been a wonderful journey...
0:23:26 > 0:23:32- ..but there's still some fish - out there left to be caught...
0:23:32 > 0:23:37- ..and my fishing rod - will not be packed away...
0:23:37 > 0:23:40- ..for quite some time yet.
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