0:00:18 > 0:00:23A Hallowe'en welcome to Out of The Blue, with Graham Little. And
0:00:23 > 0:00:26Joanne Salley. It may be the Day of the Dead, but
0:00:26 > 0:00:31we checked the crew's pulses a few minutes ago and some of them
0:00:31 > 0:00:33clearly showed signs of life. With the possible exception of Seamus.
0:00:33 > 0:00:39With us tonight, Bangor-born five- piece Farriers make their
0:00:39 > 0:00:44television debut. And Katherine Rush is already hard
0:00:44 > 0:00:49at work on this week's 60 minute masterpiece.
0:00:50 > 0:00:53It could be yours. We'll tell you how later. He's made a living out
0:00:53 > 0:01:03of catchphrases and given us a few himself, Say what you see, it's the
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0:01:04 > 0:01:13legend that is Roy Walker! Roy, you grew up in East Belfast,
0:01:13 > 0:01:20where there's now a Walker Court named after you. It's just a short
0:01:20 > 0:01:23cut for the school children. My mother lived in Houston Street, and
0:01:23 > 0:01:31the kids watch catchphrase and they were asked what they would like to
0:01:31 > 0:01:36do, and they said my mistreat after Roy Walker, so. Would you ever
0:01:36 > 0:01:42think about coming back over? often think about retiring here
0:01:42 > 0:01:45because it is such an exciting place. Meantime, if you're going
0:01:45 > 0:01:49out trick or treating or heading for a party tonight and you've put
0:01:49 > 0:01:53some heart, and art, into your ghoulish get up, then email us a
0:01:53 > 0:01:57pic of your Hallowe'en outfit. And we'll aim to show the best later on.
0:01:57 > 0:02:07First up though, Roy, why did the vampire keep visiting the doctor?
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0:02:16 > 0:02:19We do have some real Halloween news. The private notebook of Dracula
0:02:20 > 0:02:23creator, Bram Stoker, was uncovered in an attic on the Isle of Wight.
0:02:23 > 0:02:28Scholars hope it will shed new light on the mind of the man who
0:02:28 > 0:02:32gave us one of literature's most feared characters. Our own Michael
0:02:32 > 0:02:42Bradley's done some research of his own and lifts the lid on Dracula's
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0:02:43 > 0:02:48Coleraine connection. His right hand gripped her by the
0:02:48 > 0:02:52back at the neck. Her white nightdress was smeared with blood.
0:02:52 > 0:02:57The white shark teeth behind the Bill teeth of the blood dripping
0:02:57 > 0:03:02mouth, jammed together like those of all wild beast. And the life
0:03:02 > 0:03:06blood for all these countless vampire films and books is the
0:03:06 > 0:03:10Irishman Bram Stoker and his story of Dracula, but the inspiration for
0:03:10 > 0:03:15his creation may have less to do with France will be near than the
0:03:15 > 0:03:21foothills of this Berens. Far real- life story of Dracula goes back to
0:03:21 > 0:03:251890 when he started penning his bloodthirsty novel. Hard journey
0:03:25 > 0:03:32starts in England, where he worked as a manager in the Lyceum Theatre.
0:03:32 > 0:03:37In the British Library she studied books about a medieval tyrant calls
0:03:37 > 0:03:44flat Dracula, he impaled the bodies of his victims. Another Chelsea but
0:03:44 > 0:03:47inspiration from his own Celtic past. Bram Stoker read a lot about
0:03:47 > 0:03:53Irish legends and Celtic legend, particularly at famous but at the
0:03:53 > 0:04:00time called history of violence. There was a phrase in the Gaelic
0:04:00 > 0:04:03language which resonates with Dracula, that is Dracula, which
0:04:03 > 0:04:08means bad blood. Another Irish connection would have been the
0:04:08 > 0:04:12famine. His parents would have told him to horrific stories of that
0:04:12 > 0:04:18time and peasants that were trying to survive the famine would have
0:04:18 > 0:04:23drink animal blood. Stoker's Irish roots give him plenty to inspire
0:04:23 > 0:04:27his lower for the living dead. As a young Dublin boy he went to a local
0:04:27 > 0:04:32cemetery and here flayed suicide victims, robbers and all the rest
0:04:32 > 0:04:36lost souls of the city. It was found he saw the mummified bodies
0:04:36 > 0:04:43of this and Mike Ince gripped, but by daybreak the story of the real
0:04:43 > 0:04:47Dracula brings us north towards Coleraine. The town land here is
0:04:47 > 0:04:53said to beat the home of a blood- sucking tyrant who kept rising from
0:04:53 > 0:04:59the dead. Now, that sounds familiar. The name of this place is Irish for
0:04:59 > 0:05:03the tomb of an evil dwarf who terrorise the people of this town
0:05:03 > 0:05:08land around a further six century AD. Some said this is the legend
0:05:08 > 0:05:12that Bram Stoker based his story on. So this is the term of the infamous
0:05:12 > 0:05:17tour. Yeah see was buried underneath this very stone. He was
0:05:17 > 0:05:23not a nice man. His own try brother and hitman to get rid of him and he
0:05:23 > 0:05:27slot judge him. They buried him in the next morning he pops up out of
0:05:27 > 0:05:31the grave demanding blood. The kill him again, happy pups. The third
0:05:31 > 0:05:36time they needed to seek advice from a wild man who give them
0:05:36 > 0:05:39instructions were to get rid of him. So what evidence do we have that
0:05:39 > 0:05:44the story is the inspiration for the story of Dracula? There are so
0:05:44 > 0:05:48many parallels. A man who comes back from the grave, who depends on
0:05:48 > 0:05:51blood do minting his state, and when it comes to get rid of him you
0:05:51 > 0:05:54have the van Hun Sen figure who gives them advice on how to deal
0:05:54 > 0:06:00with this and dead creature, that is to stab him through the heart
0:06:00 > 0:06:04with a wooden stake. We engrams Stoker finally published a book in
0:06:04 > 0:06:081897 it made just a few ripples and literary circles. He dreamt of
0:06:08 > 0:06:13staging it with this great actor friend Sir Henry Irving and account,
0:06:13 > 0:06:18but this was never to be. Sadly Dracula really took off after Bram
0:06:18 > 0:06:22Stoker's death, with classics like moss for rat soup in the 20s and
0:06:22 > 0:06:28Belinda go see's a comic role a decade later. More recently the
0:06:28 > 0:06:33twilight pictures have grossed nearly $2 billion at the box-office.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37Stoker never sold his wicket Genesis has bombed, and he never
0:06:37 > 0:06:42came back to the mother country either. He died in London in 1912,
0:06:42 > 0:06:46so we will never know for sure which local legends made it into
0:06:46 > 0:06:56the Dracula legend. Unlike his principal living dead, Bram Stoker
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0:07:05 > 0:07:11will not rise up to tell us. He was cremated in Golders Green.
0:07:11 > 0:07:15Roy, Dracula would be one of our most fearsome Hallowe'en characters.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18Roy, you'd have given a vampire a run for his money if you came
0:07:18 > 0:07:23across one in the dead of night. For two years you were Northern
0:07:23 > 0:07:26Ireland's champion hammer thrower. About 50 years ago I was. I wish
0:07:26 > 0:07:33you hadn't told everybody because they once they find out you are
0:07:33 > 0:07:37annexed hammer thrower than ever as good to walk their dog. East
0:07:37 > 0:07:40Belfast's given us more than a few who made it to the top of their
0:07:40 > 0:07:49trade, George Best, Van Morrison, CS Lewis. Is there something in the
0:07:49 > 0:07:54air down there? I wouldn't put myself with those three! East
0:07:54 > 0:08:00Belfast is a great wee place full of comedians. I moved there when I
0:08:00 > 0:08:07was about seven and went to school on the river narrowed. I started
0:08:07 > 0:08:14off in that the Trocadero in the marketplace, right in the middle of
0:08:14 > 0:08:19the markets for Danny Rice. Then I was headhunted to be East Belfast
0:08:20 > 0:08:23to open up the talk of the town. With Guy Mitchell, who was as big
0:08:23 > 0:08:30as Frank Sinatra at one time. We opened it up and 500 people every
0:08:30 > 0:08:35night and went on for years and years. It was made very clear
0:08:35 > 0:08:38during the Troubles Thatcher career lay over the water. Well, the
0:08:38 > 0:08:45Troubles came and like everyone would think it would be over in a
0:08:45 > 0:08:50weekend's. It was not going to last. It was so horrific. It was like the
0:08:50 > 0:08:53war and people were dying right left and centre. I had three very
0:08:53 > 0:08:58young children and we were a mixed marriage, so there were people far
0:08:58 > 0:09:02worse off than me. I had a little bit of talent, so I grabbed my wife
0:09:02 > 0:09:07and three children and we headed for England. By two really had no
0:09:07 > 0:09:11choice. There was the work here and I couldn't go to Jean's house
0:09:11 > 0:09:15because there were one side, and my side of the town was the other side
0:09:15 > 0:09:20and never the twain shall meet. left and were sad to leave and
0:09:20 > 0:09:26always came back, and always glad to come back. Look how wonderful it
0:09:26 > 0:09:31is now. Hong will always be home for you. You never forget it. You
0:09:31 > 0:09:41never remember bad times, only the good times. It hasn't done me any
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0:09:51 > 0:09:55harm anyway. Here is another side of Roy Walker. The art lover. This
0:09:55 > 0:10:04is a we ask guests to tell us the works that have inspired them. Well,
0:10:04 > 0:10:13well, well. My favourite painting. Who would have believed its? It is
0:10:13 > 0:10:17here. Just the way I saw it just off Trafalgar Square in that famous
0:10:17 > 0:10:25gallery, which I nearly walked past it, but there it is. My favourite
0:10:25 > 0:10:32painting of all time. The Hay Wain by John Constable. It reminds me of
0:10:32 > 0:10:38my childhood down in Ireland Magee and I was a boy and Jack Hill had a
0:10:38 > 0:10:43farm there. His hay cart was as bad as that! I was driving it for him
0:10:43 > 0:10:49one day and we were stuck in this little stream, except the horse was
0:10:49 > 0:10:55drinking and wouldn't stop. Jack was shouting! A will never forget
0:10:55 > 0:11:03it. I used to help him up with the haystacks onto the back of the cart,
0:11:03 > 0:11:13thistles and all! Sliding down them, needles in your backside. The paint
0:11:13 > 0:11:19
0:11:19 > 0:11:24And now a book. A great book, but first to Reading. Dearly beloved.
0:11:24 > 0:11:29This is a great book. This book was written by an extraordinary man. It
0:11:29 > 0:11:36was funny because you would think he was from Belfast. Some of the
0:11:36 > 0:11:41word he writes here, yet, where, on my what do you might call it. On my
0:11:41 > 0:11:46thing in a jig. Those are Belfast words, and he is from New York. JD
0:11:46 > 0:11:51Salinger, the Catcher In the Rye. Probably one of the best books I
0:11:51 > 0:11:56have ever read. He was a tortured soul. Became a recluse. Just after
0:11:56 > 0:12:01the war he was in Nuremberg were had to interview all of the Nazi
0:12:01 > 0:12:11criminals and he never found one of them who said they were sorry. He
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0:12:28 > 0:12:38lost faith in human nature. Sad. I was born under a wandering star.
0:12:38 > 0:12:39
0:12:39 > 0:12:43Lee Martin. And Paul Newman. Terry O'Neill's famous picture, pocket
0:12:43 > 0:12:48money in 1971. I sought and a magazine and never forgot it. I
0:12:48 > 0:12:52thought what an iconic Buddha grass. Two ordinary-looking guys who were
0:12:52 > 0:12:57really at the top of their profession. I never missed any of
0:12:58 > 0:13:07their movies and they never, ever disappointed. That is a great
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0:13:21 > 0:13:29My favourite song. Night time shamans, heightens each sensation.
0:13:29 > 0:13:35The most erotic lyric I have ever heard in my life. The music of the
0:13:35 > 0:13:3990s by Andrew Lloyd Webber was a phantom of the opera. It is a
0:13:39 > 0:13:43lovely story. Andrew was taking Sarah along for a singing lesson
0:13:43 > 0:13:48and Michael Crawford was singing up the stairs and Andrew heard him and
0:13:48 > 0:13:58said the Sarah, I think we have found our phantom. I went to that
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0:13:58 > 0:14:07singing teacher and learn how to sing up to the highest notes. My
0:14:07 > 0:14:17fear that song. My favourite song. Michael Crawford, Paul Newman, Lee
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0:14:17 > 0:14:23Martin, JD Salinger, Constable. It doesn't get any better than this!
0:14:23 > 0:14:28That is a great voice you have got there! Can you get a high note now
0:14:28 > 0:14:32for us? Yes, I still can. looked a bit emotional, but there
0:14:32 > 0:14:36is a good reason for that because your doctor was also in Phantom of
0:14:36 > 0:14:41the opera. Yes, I should like Christine. She has been in most of
0:14:41 > 0:14:46the West End musicals. She has just opened in the till Death in Covent
0:14:46 > 0:14:51Garden. She has got a main part? You yes, she got the main part and
0:14:51 > 0:14:56that. We couldn't ask you about your role for a - - you are most
0:14:56 > 0:15:01famous work. Catchphrase. Tom Jones played a part in the land in that
0:15:01 > 0:15:04gig? Well, I was touring with Tom Jones. I got the gig three Shirley
0:15:04 > 0:15:09Bassey. I used to open for all the big singers and Tom Jones was
0:15:09 > 0:15:15coming back to Britain in the 80s and Shirley Bassey Dalton to use me
0:15:15 > 0:15:21as an opener. I finished up at the Albert Hall twice nightly for yet
0:15:21 > 0:15:25nights. That was 13,000 people per night, he was sold out completely.
0:15:25 > 0:15:30His manager came over, Gordon Mills, and said to me, Roy, everybody is
0:15:30 > 0:15:34talking about you and they want you to go on tour with them. I had been
0:15:34 > 0:15:39on the road a long, long time and I had three children and my wife
0:15:39 > 0:15:44hardly ever saw me. I just thought, I can be doing this, uprating and
0:15:44 > 0:15:48what have you. My manager he got mitigate in the Albert Hall, so I
0:15:48 > 0:15:58never would have met Tom Jones are the wasn't for him. I was loyal to
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0:15:59 > 0:16:02him. Six months later he got the Well, time to put you to the test
0:16:02 > 0:16:05Roy - you should be good at this after 13 years of Catchphrases!
0:16:05 > 0:16:13Each of our animations represent the name of a famous painting. For
0:16:13 > 0:16:17copyright reasons, we have Mr Fish rather than Mr Chips. We will
0:16:17 > 0:16:26please some videos and just say what you see when you get to the
0:16:26 > 0:16:36Catchphrase. Smack your buzzer there. Here is your first one. Say
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0:16:42 > 0:16:52what you see! It is good it is good that it is not right. Shall I tell
0:16:52 > 0:17:07
0:17:07 > 0:17:17you? Yes. Morning he's. Moaning Lisa. Say what you see! Cod and
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0:17:21 > 0:17:23chips. One fish supper left - the last supper! Told you I was
0:17:23 > 0:17:26useless!$$NEWLINE Catchphrase was obviously good to you,but you've
0:17:26 > 0:17:36been quoted as saying whilst doing it that you felt you lost your
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0:17:40 > 0:17:47Earlier we asked you to send in your Hallowe'en get up. Thank you
0:17:47 > 0:17:54for sending his picture in. We have Katie Douglas H four from Lisburn.
0:17:54 > 0:18:04She looks very green and skates. This is from Patrick who is three
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0:18:12 > 0:18:15months old. He is gorgeous. Thank you for sending us in. Now if
0:18:15 > 0:18:17there's one place in Northern Ireland that really knows how to
0:18:17 > 0:18:26celebrate Hallowe'en it's Londonderry, and joining us there
0:18:26 > 0:18:30is Ralph McLean - hi, Ralph. There are thousands of families out here
0:18:30 > 0:18:36tonight to celebrate Hallowe'en. Tell us what you like about
0:18:36 > 0:18:44Hallowe'en? The fireworks and the parade. Are you really cold
0:18:44 > 0:18:50tonight? Yes. Tell me how long you have been coming year? 10 years.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54What is the secret, why is any better than anywhere else? Because
0:18:54 > 0:18:59everyone gets involved and dresses up, people make a big effort. The
0:18:59 > 0:19:03parade is a brilliant and the fireworks are excellent. I thought
0:19:03 > 0:19:09maybe you would make an effort and it Hamas gone! Have a brilliant
0:19:09 > 0:19:13night, thanks for coming along, enjoyed their fireworks. Derry has
0:19:13 > 0:19:19a great reputation for Hallowe'en celebrations but also has a
0:19:19 > 0:19:29reputation for great folklore. There is one story you have to pay
0:19:29 > 0:19:34
0:19:34 > 0:19:40attention to - about a man who had to be hanged twice. Deep in the
0:19:40 > 0:19:50woods, have stocks McNaughton, they hanged him high from the gallows
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0:19:51 > 0:19:56tree. It was 250 years ago that the tragic truth took -- true tale of
0:19:56 > 0:20:03Half Hanged McNaughton took place. It takes that tale of a highway
0:20:03 > 0:20:09robbery, revenge and a murder. It started with boy-meets-girl, or
0:20:09 > 0:20:13less comfortably, older man needs a teenager. John McNaughton was an
0:20:13 > 0:20:19impoverished landowner but he was also at gambler and a drunkard. He
0:20:19 > 0:20:26had a friend called Andrew Knox who lived in Prehen House. Andrew took
0:20:26 > 0:20:35him in. He also had a young daughter, aged about 16. McNaughton
0:20:35 > 0:20:39took a fancy to his daughter, Mary Ann. He began to woo her. This is
0:20:39 > 0:20:48Mr John McNaughton, our guest, he will stay with us for some time.
0:20:48 > 0:20:51John, this is my daughter, Ms May and knocks. This play is on at the
0:20:51 > 0:20:55Derry Playhouse which unravels the story of the ill-starred couple.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59Andrew Knox was not happy with the attention Johnny Norton was plain
0:20:59 > 0:21:04to his daughter, but when he went to take his wife and daughter to
0:21:04 > 0:21:10the parliament, their coach was and used by Mike Norton in an attempt
0:21:10 > 0:21:19to kidnap the girl. But the shot he fired, killed the woman he said he
0:21:19 > 0:21:24loved. He was eventually caught and charged with the murder and they
0:21:24 > 0:21:32found him guilty. They were going to hang him and decapitated him.
0:21:32 > 0:21:37those p gallows days, you were hung from a tree. The rope broke.
0:21:37 > 0:21:45those days that was looked at as divine intervention. You were not
0:21:45 > 0:21:50guilty. They told him to go away. But he said no, I killed her,
0:21:50 > 0:21:56therefore I deserve to die but I did not murder her. So we went back
0:21:56 > 0:22:02on the gallows and cut the rope round his own neck, and jumped.
0:22:02 > 0:22:10second leap into the great unknown is more successful. He was later
0:22:10 > 0:22:14buried here in Strabane in an unmarked grave. John Nick not in -
0:22:14 > 0:22:19and man who would not do anything by half was wholly responsible for
0:22:19 > 0:22:23earning his own place in Irish folklore. -- John McNaughton. He
0:22:23 > 0:22:31didn't want to be remembered as Half Hanged McNaughton, he is
0:22:31 > 0:22:37dramatic proof you cannot always get what you want.
0:22:37 > 0:22:42As spooky story for this but he is night. One man who knows everything
0:22:42 > 0:22:48about have hanged McNaughton is Ken. Why are people so obsessed by him?
0:22:48 > 0:22:53He was handsome and debonair, he had blond hair and blue eyes, he
0:22:53 > 0:22:59was irresistible to the ladies it was said. It was a story that
0:22:59 > 0:23:07refuses to go away from the north- west. It is a story of tragic love.
0:23:07 > 0:23:12It is forbidden love, unrequited love, tragic love. John McNaughton
0:23:12 > 0:23:19actually shot the girl dead that he was the love with. His is a classic
0:23:19 > 0:23:23story. Why is the north-west so rich in for war? 2000 years of
0:23:23 > 0:23:30people living here, but then reverie here, flowing through the
0:23:30 > 0:23:36hills, the Druids, the oak woods, right through DNA and the
0:23:36 > 0:23:40outpouring of the famine, sailing ships, all sorts of things. This is
0:23:40 > 0:23:50the place for it and they will celebrate tonight. Back to you in
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0:23:51 > 0:23:54the studio. Thank you very much. Joining us this week to create our
0:23:54 > 0:24:0160 minute masterpiece is recently graduated artist Katherine Rush,
0:24:01 > 0:24:09welcome Katherine... Katherine, you've used aluminium today as your
0:24:09 > 0:24:16canvas - is that always what you work with? I love Alan Ninian, you
0:24:17 > 0:24:19can get a smooth surface. And you often do diptychs or triptychs -
0:24:19 > 0:24:27working across two or three pieces - does that give greater
0:24:27 > 0:24:37flexibility? I love ecclesiastical work and you can copy that with
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0:24:38 > 0:24:43Alan Ninian. You have to sign this. If you would like Katherine's work
0:24:43 > 0:24:49decorating your living run, you're in with the chance. All the work of
0:24:49 > 0:24:54the artists will be auctioned off in aid of Children In Need. Log on
0:24:54 > 0:24:59and go to the Northern Ireland section for more information.
0:24:59 > 0:25:04for some music now. Playing as out tonight at the Bangor based band
0:25:04 > 0:25:10the Farriers. Rachel, thank you for joining us. You'll met in the pub,
0:25:10 > 0:25:15you have come a long way. We have come a long way, we have been
0:25:15 > 0:25:20together for three years. Derek joined us about a year ago. We're
0:25:20 > 0:25:26doing is many gigs as possible these days. There is a good Cajun
0:25:26 > 0:25:32sound hear music. Yes, there is. It is very am in a canal, very
0:25:32 > 0:25:38vigorous. I gather it might be impeded by a cynical Hallowe'en
0:25:38 > 0:25:45type story. Steve here managed to chop off have of his own some! How
0:25:45 > 0:25:50did he do that there? I heard he was chopping firewood in the dark.
0:25:50 > 0:25:57It was his career as an axe murderer! It has been a big year
0:25:57 > 0:26:02for you, tell us about your first album. Yes, we recorded it this
0:26:02 > 0:26:07year. We started last March. We have just finished recording, we
0:26:07 > 0:26:13just need to get this CD's done. Check out our Facebook Page if you
0:26:13 > 0:26:23want to find out more about a album. I like she go and get ready, be
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0:26:34 > 0:26:38look forward to hearing you. -- I will let you go. The studio will be
0:26:38 > 0:26:41alive with the Sound of Music - West End star Connie Fisher will be
0:26:41 > 0:26:44with us. And we'll have music from New York duo, The Pierces. We leave
0:26:44 > 0:26:54you with Farriers, and A Final Harvest. Goodnight, and sleep
0:26:54 > 0:26:54
0:26:54 > 0:27:42Apology for the loss of subtitles for 48 seconds
0:27:42 > 0:27:52tight! MUSIC: The Farriers: A Final MUSIC: The Farriers - The Final
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