Episode 4

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0:00:14 > 0:00:17- Welcome to Out Of The Blue with Graham Little.- And Joanne Salley.

0:00:17 > 0:00:19Tonight we're live from Belfast.

0:00:19 > 0:00:22They're about to hit the road with Gary Barlow

0:00:22 > 0:00:25on his nationwide tour, so they must have the X Factor.

0:00:25 > 0:00:27It's the Alabama sisters, The Pierces.

0:00:27 > 0:00:30APPLAUSE

0:00:30 > 0:00:34His work has been exhibited all over the world from the States to China,

0:00:34 > 0:00:36but tonight sculptor Brendan Jamison

0:00:36 > 0:00:39makes a 60-minute masterpiece out of...

0:00:39 > 0:00:44Well, sugar, of course. He's not even a Cubist.

0:00:44 > 0:00:46We'll see what he does in his own sweet way later

0:00:46 > 0:00:49and tell you how you can own it.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51And waitress to actress isn't myth.

0:00:51 > 0:00:54Our sofa guest went from PizzaExpress tables

0:00:54 > 0:00:57to the West End stage via the odd mountain top.

0:00:57 > 0:01:04# The hills are alive with the sound of music. #

0:01:04 > 0:01:06Yes, it's Connie Fisher.

0:01:06 > 0:01:08APPLAUSE

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- Hello, Connie.- Hello. How are you?

0:01:13 > 0:01:16Connie, we know you from your Welsh upbringing,

0:01:16 > 0:01:19but a lot of people watching might not be aware that

0:01:19 > 0:01:21you're a local girl born a few miles down the road.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23I am. I was born in Lisburn.

0:01:23 > 0:01:25I came back a couple of years ago with The Sound Of Music

0:01:25 > 0:01:27to the Grand Opera House.

0:01:27 > 0:01:32It was the first time I've been back in 26 years.

0:01:32 > 0:01:33We left when I was quite young.

0:01:33 > 0:01:37My dad was in the Army during the Troubles. 1983.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39It was kind of tough.

0:01:39 > 0:01:43We moved away quite quickly, but we have that Celtic connection I think,

0:01:43 > 0:01:45living in Wales, and coming back to Ireland.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49- It is very similar.- It is quite. Very musical as well. Very musical.

0:01:49 > 0:01:51It's quite an exciting place.

0:01:51 > 0:01:55I brought my mum back on Mother's Day,

0:01:55 > 0:01:59and we had an amazing time here in Ireland.

0:01:59 > 0:02:00I think... It's nice.

0:02:00 > 0:02:05- I'd like to bring my family back here one day and have a big reunion.- Lovely.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07- Have a cottage in the countryside. - Yes!

0:02:07 > 0:02:10Unless you have been on Planet Zog, you'll know

0:02:10 > 0:02:15that one of the largest music events on this planet rocked Belfast last night.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18It was, of course, the MTV European Music Awards

0:02:18 > 0:02:21which saw a whole host of celebrities descend on the town.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24Did you get up close and personal with an A-lister?

0:02:24 > 0:02:28If so, we want your pictures. E-mail them to us at...

0:02:31 > 0:02:33We will aim to show the best later on.

0:02:33 > 0:02:35The more famous, of course, the better.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37The awards last night could be the start

0:02:37 > 0:02:39of a Northern Irish musical renaissance.

0:02:39 > 0:02:43Our own musical expert Niamh Perry was there.

0:02:43 > 0:02:45# Don't stop, make it rock

0:02:45 > 0:02:48# DJ, blow my speakers up tonight... #

0:02:48 > 0:02:52Tonight, as many as 1.2 billion eyes could be on Belfast

0:02:52 > 0:02:57as the MTV European Music Awards rocked this city.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02For one night only it is a billing that pop and rock fans

0:03:02 > 0:03:04in Northern Ireland could usually only dream of.

0:03:04 > 0:03:07Lady Gaga, Coldplay, Red Hot Chilli Peppers

0:03:07 > 0:03:11and for all you Beliebers out there, Justin's here too.

0:03:11 > 0:03:13Performing across three stages,

0:03:13 > 0:03:15it's the biggest music event in our history.

0:03:17 > 0:03:19MTV said it was the vibrant nightlife,

0:03:19 > 0:03:24and compelling music scene of the city that attracted its attention.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27And who could forget the infamous Rihanna music video

0:03:27 > 0:03:28that she chose to film here.

0:03:28 > 0:03:31# We found love in a hopeless place

0:03:31 > 0:03:33# We found love in a hopeless place... #

0:03:33 > 0:03:36So, is our wee city that would fit near enough 30 times into London,

0:03:36 > 0:03:40on the verge of becoming a big-time musical Mecca?

0:03:40 > 0:03:43Stranger things HAVE happened.

0:03:43 > 0:03:47It started with Liverpool in the '60s,

0:03:47 > 0:03:51then it was the turn of Sheffield in the '80s, and Manchester in the '90s.

0:03:52 > 0:03:54Beatle-mania, electro pop,

0:03:54 > 0:04:00and mad Madchester all saw music change those places for good.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03I worked for New Musical Express

0:04:03 > 0:04:06when the whole Manchester era was kicking off in the late-'80s.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09You'd go to Afflecks Palace and people would buy the T-shirts.

0:04:09 > 0:04:13You would go to The Hacienda to see bands.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16Manchester, like Belfast has a village mentality.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19It's quite small. It has got its Victorian architecture.

0:04:19 > 0:04:23It makes a cool issue out of that old industry.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26We've had our shipyards, we've had our Ropeworks,

0:04:26 > 0:04:29and all the rest of it.

0:04:29 > 0:04:32There's a kind of a "grrrr" in the sound of Belfast which comes from that.

0:04:32 > 0:04:36This is why are punk rock era was so exciting.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39I think that translates into the music of David Holmes,

0:04:39 > 0:04:42translates into the music of Therapy? and Ash,

0:04:42 > 0:04:45and obviously bands like Snow Patrol now

0:04:45 > 0:04:47can put their hands on their heart and sing, I love this city tonight.

0:04:47 > 0:04:51They call it a love song to Belfast.

0:04:51 > 0:04:57# I love this city tonight I love this city always... #

0:04:57 > 0:05:00Has it been a conscious effort to change the music scene in Belfast,

0:05:00 > 0:05:03or do you think it's happened by chance?

0:05:03 > 0:05:05It probably began around 1994

0:05:05 > 0:05:08when Van Morrison played in front of City Hall

0:05:08 > 0:05:12to President Clinton and Hillary Clinton.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14That was a big feel-good moment.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19That was the first time, I think, it became almost

0:05:19 > 0:05:24an issue of policy to use music to make Belfast look like a great place.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27Cultural tourism is something like 22%

0:05:27 > 0:05:29of the tourist market now.

0:05:29 > 0:05:30People want to come to a city

0:05:30 > 0:05:33to see what it's unique musical story is.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35Belfast's got an amazing musical story.

0:05:35 > 0:05:38The council have thrown their weight behind

0:05:38 > 0:05:43the Belfast music scene with the newly established annual Belfast Music Week.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47Last week, over 170 gigs happened with bright young things

0:05:47 > 0:05:50like Wonder Villains, Eatenbybears and Axis Of.

0:05:50 > 0:05:55All hoping to capture the eyes and ears of record label's A&R.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59# Only now I'm sick of it all... #

0:05:59 > 0:06:04Cashier No.9 are one band tipped to be the next big thing from these shores.

0:06:04 > 0:06:08They have just been confirmed as the only act from here so far

0:06:08 > 0:06:11to perform on the official line-up at SXSW -

0:06:11 > 0:06:15the world's biggest music industry get together

0:06:15 > 0:06:17held this March in Texas.

0:06:17 > 0:06:19When was your first gig as Cashier No.9?

0:06:19 > 0:06:23I think it was at the Menagerie maybe, in University Street.

0:06:23 > 0:06:25It was a club night David Holmes did,

0:06:25 > 0:06:29so we played in there for him which was great.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32It's a dirty, old sweaty bar, you know?

0:06:32 > 0:06:35We played at the Northern Irish Music Awards in Belfast

0:06:35 > 0:06:36last Wednesday.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40It was really apparent the calibre and the standard of,

0:06:40 > 0:06:43not just bands within Belfast and Northern Ireland,

0:06:43 > 0:06:46but bands from here that are doing well around the world.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49Bands like Two Door Cinema Club who are doing so well.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53So I Watch You From Afar are doing great things,

0:06:53 > 0:06:56then there's the bigger guys like Snow Patrol.

0:06:56 > 0:06:59I think Belfast is as good as anywhere in the UK.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02There's loads of great venues, loads of rehearsal rooms

0:07:02 > 0:07:04so there's tons of resources

0:07:04 > 0:07:06in the city that weren't here 15-20 years ago.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11Evidence does seem to be pointing

0:07:11 > 0:07:13to a music-led mini cultural revolution.

0:07:13 > 0:07:16New bars, new venues and new bands.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18The owners of an Ibiza super-club

0:07:18 > 0:07:23have even chosen Belfast as home to their first venue outside the party island.

0:07:23 > 0:07:26There's never been a better time to be made in Belfast.

0:07:30 > 0:07:34Connie, are your musical tastes strictly from the musicals?

0:07:34 > 0:07:35Well, not really.

0:07:35 > 0:07:38If you seen my record collection it's pretty eclectic.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41I like anything from Lady Gaga, to Elaine Paige. Anything.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45I kind of agree that anything made in Belfast is pretty good.

0:07:45 > 0:07:48Well, that will get you full marks on this show.

0:07:48 > 0:07:49You are qualified.

0:07:49 > 0:07:51You have a degree in musical theatre,

0:07:51 > 0:07:54but you didn't jump straight into playing Maria.

0:07:54 > 0:07:56You had to go via PizzaExpress and telesales.

0:07:56 > 0:08:01Was there ever a stage when you thought, "I am not going to make it?"

0:08:01 > 0:08:02Yes. There was a lot of doubt.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06I think that was good because you suffer a lot rejection.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09I went for loads of auditions. Came second a lot of the time.

0:08:09 > 0:08:14So when the opportunity to play a Julie Andrews' role, which is everything I wanted...

0:08:14 > 0:08:19I heard years before they were workshoping The Sound Of Music

0:08:19 > 0:08:22and I couldn't leave drama school to go and have an audition

0:08:22 > 0:08:24because they wouldn't allow you to do that.

0:08:24 > 0:08:28After I left, I was stuck in telesales thinking, I'm going to give up soon.

0:08:28 > 0:08:31When the opportunity came along, I had to go for it.

0:08:31 > 0:08:33I had nothing to lose.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35I was getting constant rejection on the phones,

0:08:35 > 0:08:38I was sick of asking, "Would you like olives, or nuts?"

0:08:38 > 0:08:42To be honest, I had nothing to lose

0:08:42 > 0:08:45and I still can't believe that I won. I have to pinch myself.

0:08:45 > 0:08:46We'll have a look at it now.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49The moment that made the big break.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54For one of you, life is about to change forever.

0:08:56 > 0:09:00The girl the public have cast

0:09:00 > 0:09:04to be Maria Von Trapp is...

0:09:11 > 0:09:13Connie!

0:09:13 > 0:09:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:09:18 > 0:09:21Oh, my goodness! It's one of those moments, isn't it?

0:09:21 > 0:09:25- Have you ever seen a face like it? - It's fantastic. That was 2006.

0:09:25 > 0:09:27Does that still make your heart jump out of your chest?

0:09:27 > 0:09:29I'm still nervous that I won't win.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32It is the kind of thing that Elaine Paige says,

0:09:32 > 0:09:35"They're going to find me out," I think it's Judi Dench says it.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38"They'll find me out when I go on stage."

0:09:38 > 0:09:41You're constantly worried that it's all a dream.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43It must have been terrifying for you.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46Yes, and the fact that Andrew Lloyd Webber was one of the judges.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49I never thought that I'd get to meet him.

0:09:49 > 0:09:52I thought I'd only see his name on a piece of music.

0:09:52 > 0:09:55To perform for him, and sing some of his own songs

0:09:55 > 0:09:57was really nerve-racking.

0:09:57 > 0:10:01And working with him, and working with a big sort of a family in a major big show like that.

0:10:01 > 0:10:04Everybody thinks it's one big happy family,

0:10:04 > 0:10:06but there have been films like the Black Swan

0:10:06 > 0:10:08which portray a different side to it.

0:10:08 > 0:10:12- Was your experience all positive? - Yes, yes, well, no.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16I mean, every day is like groundhog day.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18So you compare it to the last.

0:10:18 > 0:10:22Of course, there are moments where you don't get on with everyone.

0:10:22 > 0:10:26I remember at the Palladium, there was one lady who didn't like me much,

0:10:26 > 0:10:28or perhaps didn't like the way I was doing something.

0:10:28 > 0:10:32I remember singing thinking, "She hates me, she hates me.

0:10:32 > 0:10:33"We're smiling at each other."

0:10:33 > 0:10:36Playing Maria, I'm all very nice and, "She hates me."

0:10:36 > 0:10:39There's that look in her eye, and you think, "Gosh..."

0:10:39 > 0:10:41I used to think we were getting on quite well,

0:10:41 > 0:10:44but those were just our characters getting on well.

0:10:44 > 0:10:49There are moments of just joy and a family on tour.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52The UK tour I did for 18 months, I did Palladium for 18 months

0:10:52 > 0:10:54and on tour for 18 months.

0:10:54 > 0:10:56The UK tour was like one big family.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00I have got friends for life from that tour.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03There has been some healthy debate in the last week about

0:11:03 > 0:11:06whether murals in Belfast depicting the Troubles

0:11:06 > 0:11:09should be painted over with fresh images of life in the city.

0:11:09 > 0:11:11You seldom have to look far in any part of the country

0:11:11 > 0:11:14to find public works of art that divide opinion.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17We've been down Downpatrick way to see if the locals think

0:11:17 > 0:11:22the large metal sculpture on the edge of the town is a saint or sinner.

0:11:22 > 0:11:24# I did my best to notice

0:11:24 > 0:11:27# When the call came down the line... #

0:11:27 > 0:11:32My name is Coleman McGuinness, I'm a local businessman in Downpatrick.

0:11:32 > 0:11:36Our new monument, I think, says a lot about Downpatrick.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38I think the St Patrick's sculpture, it marks,

0:11:38 > 0:11:40the interest of the town.

0:11:40 > 0:11:44It marks the returning of St Patrick to Ireland

0:11:44 > 0:11:46to spread his Christian message.

0:11:46 > 0:11:51It was designed by a lady called Melanie Jackson from Cheshire.

0:11:51 > 0:11:55I think sometimes if you get somebody from the outside looking in,

0:11:55 > 0:11:58they give us a different interpretation of what we have.

0:11:58 > 0:12:02It sits high on the stone base and the landscaping.

0:12:02 > 0:12:07It looks as though it's St Patrick looking out over his flock.

0:12:07 > 0:12:12It marks the regeneration of Downpatrick and the way forward.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19Hello, my name is Martin Carter I am a local artisan

0:12:19 > 0:12:22based in a local arts collective in Belfast.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25The more I think about this piece of sculpture,

0:12:25 > 0:12:30the more it becomes decoration, it becomes artistically very little.

0:12:30 > 0:12:33It becomes something you might see on a Christmas tree.

0:12:33 > 0:12:36I don't really see it as being something that has the merits

0:12:36 > 0:12:39to be the on the outside of a town.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41It is not very pleasing to the eye.

0:12:41 > 0:12:44It doesn't really represent Downpatrick in my eyes.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47It represents something Christian with the crow's ear

0:12:47 > 0:12:48being held in the hand.

0:12:48 > 0:12:50But in even the description of Scott Wilson,

0:12:50 > 0:12:55they say it has a Celtic-like swirl somewhere in the sculpture.

0:12:56 > 0:12:58We could do better.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01Well, who do you agree with? Vote with your feet.

0:13:01 > 0:13:06# Are we human Or are we dancers... #

0:13:10 > 0:13:12I feel it's a fine addition to the town.

0:13:12 > 0:13:15For the strangers coming in on the main road to Downpatrick,

0:13:15 > 0:13:18it raises a question mark, causes them to look a bit further.

0:13:18 > 0:13:20We have the St Patrick's Centre to back up

0:13:20 > 0:13:22all the questions they have.

0:13:22 > 0:13:25I think it's a three-dimensional doodle.

0:13:25 > 0:13:29It's ill-thought out and doesn't reflect anything of the area.

0:13:29 > 0:13:31I think it takes away from the St Patrick's monument

0:13:31 > 0:13:33out on St Patrick's mountain in Saul.

0:13:33 > 0:13:36When tourists come, they have no idea where it is

0:13:36 > 0:13:39and there is no proper tourist information

0:13:39 > 0:13:41and it takes away from the town, personally.

0:13:41 > 0:13:46To bring this new statue of new materials to be erected

0:13:46 > 0:13:50is a great idea and a good aspect to the town.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53I don't think it's a good piece of art to be quite honest.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02Everybody's a critic.

0:14:02 > 0:14:03It must be difficult being a performer

0:14:03 > 0:14:06and putting up with people who like you or don't like you?

0:14:06 > 0:14:10Especially in a demanding role. You played Maria nearly 100 times...

0:14:10 > 0:14:13- More than that.- ..it took its toll on your health, first of all.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16I probably played it 1,000, a couple of 1,000 times.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18Quite a long time.

0:14:18 > 0:14:21Three years stage time playing her, so it was quite demanding.

0:14:21 > 0:14:24It is difficult. You can't please everyone all the time.

0:14:24 > 0:14:29You have to remember that every night you have got a new audience,

0:14:29 > 0:14:32so try not to get too complacent about going on stage.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35You were told at one stage you could never sing again?

0:14:35 > 0:14:38Yes, that was for different reasons.

0:14:38 > 0:14:44I... Obviously, vocally I found it difficult and demanding anyway.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47After I left the Palladium, I developed a croak in my voice

0:14:47 > 0:14:50and I was finding it difficult doing another show

0:14:50 > 0:14:52I was doing with Alistair McGowan.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56I was performing at the Menier Chocolate Factory with him in a different show.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58It was quite a funny show and really high energy.

0:14:58 > 0:15:02I found it quite difficult. So, I went to get looked at.

0:15:02 > 0:15:05It turns out I was diagnosed with something I was born with.

0:15:05 > 0:15:08Which meant I should never have been a singer.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10But I think I learned to sing around it.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13Now was that the same as Julie Andrews?

0:15:13 > 0:15:17No, I think Julie Andrews had nodules

0:15:17 > 0:15:21through just over exertion and vocally perhaps pushing herself

0:15:21 > 0:15:25cos she was in demand, she was hot stuff really in musical theatre.

0:15:25 > 0:15:28I think she did Victor Victoria and created nodules

0:15:28 > 0:15:32and went to have them lopped off and perhaps had difficulties afterwards.

0:15:32 > 0:15:36- But we actually both now have the same vocal surgeon.- That's right!

0:15:36 > 0:15:40That's my claim to fame! We had the same fate but for different reasons.

0:15:40 > 0:15:43As they say, one door closes, another opens.

0:15:43 > 0:15:46You're pursuing a new career actually in Wales.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48That's a line from the Sound Of Music, actually.

0:15:48 > 0:15:51When God shuts a door, he opens a window.

0:15:51 > 0:15:56I am, actually. I'm doing a cartoon at the moment, voicing over for S4C which is our Welsh channel.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59I'm doing Poppy Cat which is quite fun.

0:15:59 > 0:16:04We're doing 52 episodes of that. But my new kind of venture really is presenting

0:16:04 > 0:16:08and I've had a programme called Connie's Musical Map Of Wales.

0:16:08 > 0:16:11So watch out, Ireland. Maybe there'll be a Musical Map Of Ireland one day.

0:16:11 > 0:16:16It would be a detailed map! Does that mean you're going to turn your back on stage altogether?

0:16:16 > 0:16:21No, I don't think I could. Having gained, not that it means much with a piece of paper,

0:16:21 > 0:16:23but a first class honours in musical theatre,

0:16:23 > 0:16:27you think, you've trained to be on the stage in any capacity, really.

0:16:27 > 0:16:30I like presenting, I like meeting new people,

0:16:30 > 0:16:33but I don't think I could ever fully leave the stage.

0:16:33 > 0:16:35My heart's always really on stage.

0:16:35 > 0:16:37I'm glad to hear it, Connie.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39You have some massive fans here in Belfast.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43Earlier we asked you to send in photos of celebrities you'd met over the weekend.

0:16:43 > 0:16:48I don't think this was taken at the weekend but this was sent in by Christopher Patterson

0:16:48 > 0:16:50who met his idol, somebody called Connie Fisher.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52No, that's such an old photograph!

0:16:52 > 0:16:55- Chris Patterson. I shall never forgive him.- Yes.

0:16:55 > 0:16:58- Never forgive, Chris! - Do you remember that?

0:16:58 > 0:17:00I do, actually. That wasn't far from here.

0:17:00 > 0:17:02- It's opposite my favourite cafe. - Excellent.

0:17:02 > 0:17:07I remember meeting him, but he caught me on the hop there.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10- More make-up needed next time. - Big star, Connie Fisher.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13Fantastic. And we've got Roy Porter here with Brian May,

0:17:13 > 0:17:16looking very cool with his big hair.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18- I've got one, actually. - Who've you got?

0:17:18 > 0:17:21- I've got Justin Bieber. - Hold it up so we can see.

0:17:21 > 0:17:26Justin Bieber with Elizabeth McDade in Hillsborough.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29She saw Justin Bieber at the LMFA0 at the M Club.

0:17:29 > 0:17:31It sounds like a code of some sort!

0:17:31 > 0:17:34- Is it really Justin Bieber? I'm not sure.- Yeah!

0:17:34 > 0:17:37This apparently is Bruno Mars. Niall Smith has sent this

0:17:37 > 0:17:40of Bruno Mars in Belfast, through the window, I might add.

0:17:40 > 0:17:44- He looks exactly the same as in his videos.- Doesn't he just?!

0:17:44 > 0:17:47Thank you so much for sending those in. And thanks to Connie.

0:17:47 > 0:17:51Connie's in a long line of stars born here before hitting the big time elsewhere.

0:17:51 > 0:17:55Colin Bateman now has the story of a slip of a lass from Belfast

0:17:55 > 0:17:58who ended up 5,000 miles away under the bright lights of Hollywood.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02But unlike Connie, this girl's voice wasn't her fortune.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15In Hollywood, long before the brand names of Branagh and Neeson,

0:18:15 > 0:18:19an earlier band of Irish legends lit up the silver screen.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22One of the brightest of the silent movie era

0:18:22 > 0:18:24was the Blanchett or Knightley of her day,

0:18:24 > 0:18:28but unlike Cate or Keira, many would struggle to remember her name.

0:18:28 > 0:18:34Welcome to the South Belfast world of Eileen Percy.

0:18:34 > 0:18:40By 1927, our Eileen was making five films a year,

0:18:40 > 0:18:42from westerns to romances,

0:18:42 > 0:18:47but the story of her and other Irish movie stars begins not in LA

0:18:47 > 0:18:50but 3,000 miles east in New York.

0:18:50 > 0:18:54This is where America's movie industry really began.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57You had a lot of famous Irish entertainers on the American stage,

0:18:57 > 0:19:00Vaudeville, slides,

0:19:00 > 0:19:02and they would have gone into films.

0:19:02 > 0:19:04Sometimes they played Irish characters.

0:19:04 > 0:19:09Sometimes, interestingly, they didn't. They played every ethnicity but Irish.

0:19:09 > 0:19:14And this is How Molly Made Good which is typical of the sort of movie they were making at the time.

0:19:14 > 0:19:15Very much so.

0:19:15 > 0:19:19This is kind of a feature film version of a storyline that had existed for decades

0:19:19 > 0:19:23so you have kind of what the title suggests.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27You have an Irish immigrant who comes to America, Molly, and she makes good.

0:19:27 > 0:19:31She achieves the American dream as it was seen at the time.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34'A young Eileen Percy in Belfast may well have seen

0:19:34 > 0:19:39'early American flicks as export markets opened up overseas.

0:19:39 > 0:19:41'By the beginning of the 20th century,

0:19:41 > 0:19:44'picture houses were springing up all over the city.

0:19:44 > 0:19:48'But life on the streets outside was anything but a Hollywood fantasy.'

0:19:48 > 0:19:53They lived here in Vernon Street for about nine years.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57And Eileen and her two elder brothers, James and John,

0:19:57 > 0:20:00went to a local Protestant primary school here.

0:20:00 > 0:20:02Her father was a Presbyterian

0:20:02 > 0:20:06and her mother was a baptised Roman Catholic.

0:20:06 > 0:20:10Eileen's father was a law clerk in Belfast.

0:20:10 > 0:20:15In 1907, I believe, he went to New York, New Jersey,

0:20:15 > 0:20:21to work towards...to pave the way for the family to join him,

0:20:21 > 0:20:23basically, to escape what would probably have been

0:20:23 > 0:20:27a really poverty-stricken lifestyle.

0:20:27 > 0:20:31Soon, in 1909, Eileen and her 12-year-old brother

0:20:31 > 0:20:34set sail from Londonderry to New York.

0:20:37 > 0:20:41Eileen got her first break as a 15-year-old chorus girl

0:20:41 > 0:20:44in the Broadway hit, Siegfried Follies.

0:20:44 > 0:20:47Next, she landed a film and was signed up by the movie mogul

0:20:47 > 0:20:50and heartthrob, Douglas Fairbanks.

0:20:50 > 0:20:54This was the greatest thing that could have happened to her

0:20:54 > 0:20:57because Fairbanks was not only one of the biggest stars

0:20:57 > 0:21:00but he went on to found United Artists,

0:21:00 > 0:21:03his feature films were among the greatest box office successes.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06He was really the best break Eileen could have got.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09Eileen was cast as leading lady alongside Fairbanks

0:21:09 > 0:21:15in hit westerns such as The Man from Painted Post in 1917.

0:21:15 > 0:21:19Soon the movie industry had decamped to Hollywood. Why?

0:21:19 > 0:21:22Because Californian sunshine gave longer filming days.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26Before she knew it, Eileen was starring with the great Rudolph Valentino.

0:21:26 > 0:21:31She partied hard with tycoons Jack Warner and Howard Hughes.

0:21:31 > 0:21:36She signed with Fox and made an amazing 64 films in a decade.

0:21:36 > 0:21:40But almost overnight, the movies became the talkies.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42Eileen may have looked the part,

0:21:42 > 0:21:46but like so many other silent movie stars, she just didn't sound it.

0:21:46 > 0:21:50Eileen Percy was now relegated to bit parts.

0:21:50 > 0:21:53In the next five years, she made just five films.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55Others fared even worse.

0:21:55 > 0:22:00Many people lost their careers. You take an example like Karl Dane

0:22:00 > 0:22:02who was an actor who had a very thick accent.

0:22:02 > 0:22:05His career ended abruptly. He was despondent.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08He opened a hotdog stand outside the studio where he had worked

0:22:08 > 0:22:10and it didn't even make a success.

0:22:10 > 0:22:13And he goes on to commit suicide.

0:22:13 > 0:22:18So this was what was happening to a lot of people's careers, and it had an effect on Eileen's.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22Eileen Percy was last on screen in the '30s

0:22:22 > 0:22:27but she more than kept her head above water as a newspaper columnist

0:22:27 > 0:22:30till she died in 1973.

0:22:30 > 0:22:33Not exactly a Hollywood ending, but there's no getting away from it,

0:22:33 > 0:22:36the girl from Vernon Street had come a long way.

0:22:39 > 0:22:41That's an extraordinary story.

0:22:41 > 0:22:46For the last 60 minutes, sculptor Brendan Jamison has been hard at work on his knees

0:22:46 > 0:22:50doing his sugar cubist masterpiece. Let's see what he's doing.

0:22:50 > 0:22:52Now, you've finished, haven't you?

0:22:52 > 0:22:55Yes, I've just completed. This is a sculpture relief

0:22:55 > 0:22:57of Belfast City Hall, of the front facade.

0:22:57 > 0:23:01That's absolutely gorgeous. It's incredible. I'm afraid to touch it.

0:23:01 > 0:23:06Now, you've done about a thousand sugar cubes here, as you said.

0:23:06 > 0:23:09But you've done the Tate Modern and that was about 80 stone

0:23:09 > 0:23:12and 100,000 sugar cubes.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14So you're used to working on a much grander scale.

0:23:14 > 0:23:17Yes, absolutely. It suits something like the Tate Modern

0:23:17 > 0:23:20which is such an iconic building and so colossal.

0:23:20 > 0:23:23So to make something like that on a grand scale is a strong statement.

0:23:23 > 0:23:28For me, I was thinking, you know, big piece of work, why are you using tiny sugar cubes?

0:23:28 > 0:23:31Tiny sugar cubes, they're so beautiful to cut and carve

0:23:31 > 0:23:35and I love the glistening surface on the finished sculpture.

0:23:35 > 0:23:36And very impressively,

0:23:36 > 0:23:39you've actually been summoned now by Downing Street?

0:23:39 > 0:23:43Yes, I've been invited to create a sugar cube sculpture

0:23:43 > 0:23:48of Number 10 Downing Street for an exhibition inside Downing Street in February 2012.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51That's February. How long will that take?

0:23:51 > 0:23:54- That will probably take about two months to complete.- Wow.

0:23:54 > 0:23:58What inspires you? Obviously, it's architecture for this piece. Is it always architecture?

0:23:58 > 0:24:03No, I'm also very inspired by the organic and natural worlds as well as the architectural.

0:24:03 > 0:24:05For that, you use wool and wax and other materials.

0:24:05 > 0:24:08I'm always drawn to very unusual materials

0:24:08 > 0:24:11to try to push the boundaries of contemporary sculpture.

0:24:11 > 0:24:14And you sure have and it's so impressive.

0:24:14 > 0:24:18- Now you just have to sign your coffee table.- Sure.

0:24:18 > 0:24:23This is going to be nicely covered up as well.

0:24:23 > 0:24:27Beautiful. If you would like Brendan's work as a centrepiece

0:24:27 > 0:24:31in your living room, here's how you can get your hands on it.

0:24:31 > 0:24:35All the works made by artists on Out of the Blue will be auctioned off

0:24:35 > 0:24:38with the proceeds going to BBC Children In Need.

0:24:38 > 0:24:40Log onto bbc.co.uk/pudsey

0:24:40 > 0:24:43and go to the Northern Ireland section for more information.

0:24:43 > 0:24:46- Graham. - Thanks, Joanne. Well done, Brendan.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48Time for some music now and we're honoured to have

0:24:48 > 0:24:51sisters Allison and Catherine with us tonight,

0:24:51 > 0:24:54otherwise known of course as The Pierces. Welcome, girls.

0:24:54 > 0:24:56- Hi.- Welcome to Belfast.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59You should have been here yesterday, of course.

0:24:59 > 0:25:00We missed Bieber fever.

0:25:00 > 0:25:03I know you're gutted by that, Catherine.

0:25:03 > 0:25:07It's been an amazing year for you girls as well, we have to say, since moving to the UK.

0:25:07 > 0:25:11The album's going gold all over the place, constantly playing on Radio 2.

0:25:11 > 0:25:13You must be delighted.

0:25:13 > 0:25:15Yeah, how could we not be, really?

0:25:15 > 0:25:18It was just such a nice surprise to come over here.

0:25:18 > 0:25:20We've been doing this for a really long time

0:25:20 > 0:25:26so to have it finally begin to work was really, really a good feeling.

0:25:26 > 0:25:30- Taking you back, you grew up in Alabama and didn't go to school. - We were home schooled, yes.

0:25:30 > 0:25:35Was there much academic work taught at all? Or was it all music and dancing?

0:25:35 > 0:25:39- A little.- It was probably 20% academic and 80% creative arts.

0:25:39 > 0:25:43Including ballet. You're both accomplished ballerinas, I hear.

0:25:43 > 0:25:48Yeah. Our mom's a painter, our dad plays guitar, our sister's a dancer,

0:25:48 > 0:25:52our brother's a photographer, so we were immersed in the creative world.

0:25:52 > 0:25:57The next big thing here in the UK is supporting Gary Barlow. How did that come about?

0:25:57 > 0:26:01We met him at a festival we did together

0:26:01 > 0:26:06and he heard our stuff and really liked it so asked us to come and open for him.

0:26:06 > 0:26:09You're pretty different musical tastes, I would think.

0:26:09 > 0:26:12- How do you think his fans will react?- I don't know.

0:26:12 > 0:26:14We'll see. I think they'll like it.

0:26:14 > 0:26:16Gary's an amazing songwriter

0:26:16 > 0:26:19so we were honoured that he asked us to do it.

0:26:19 > 0:26:22I'm sure we'd like to hear you tonight so I'll let you go and get ready.

0:26:22 > 0:26:24- Thanks for joining us.- Thank you.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27And we're back Out Of The Blue next week.

0:26:27 > 0:26:30See how a Victorian form of art is making a comeback.

0:26:30 > 0:26:33Yes and you might know him best as evil Archie from EastEnders

0:26:33 > 0:26:37or lovable dad in Gavin And Stacey. Larry Lamb will be with us.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40Join us Monday, 7.30pm on BBC One.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43Right now though with Kissing You Goodbye,

0:26:43 > 0:26:46- we'll say goodbye with The Pierces.- Goodbye.

0:26:55 > 0:26:58# Your love waits at the window

0:26:58 > 0:27:02# I said go home

0:27:02 > 0:27:04# Cos he don't know

0:27:04 > 0:27:06# It's not his problem

0:27:06 > 0:27:08# And he don't know

0:27:08 > 0:27:10# I'm not alone

0:27:11 > 0:27:15# Clock strikes three in the morning

0:27:15 > 0:27:18# And I lie sleepless

0:27:18 > 0:27:20# Cos he don't know

0:27:20 > 0:27:22# I broke my promise

0:27:22 > 0:27:24# And he don't know

0:27:24 > 0:27:29# I've done this

0:27:29 > 0:27:33# In the early light

0:27:33 > 0:27:34# I find you

0:27:34 > 0:27:38# With a bottle by your side

0:27:38 > 0:27:39# I can see by your eyes

0:27:39 > 0:27:43# You know that I

0:27:43 > 0:27:47# I'm kissing you goodbye

0:27:47 > 0:27:51# I'm kissing you goodbye

0:27:53 > 0:27:55# Well now

0:27:55 > 0:27:56# That is a question

0:27:56 > 0:28:00# But it's not up to you

0:28:00 > 0:28:02# So I think I will

0:28:02 > 0:28:04# Leave you guessing

0:28:04 > 0:28:11# After all you put me through

0:28:11 > 0:28:14# In the early light

0:28:14 > 0:28:16# I found you

0:28:16 > 0:28:19# With a bottle by your side

0:28:19 > 0:28:21# I can see by your eyes

0:28:21 > 0:28:24# You know that I'm

0:28:24 > 0:28:29# I'm kissing you goodbye

0:28:29 > 0:28:33# I'm kissing you goodbye

0:28:33 > 0:28:41# I'm kissing you goodbye

0:28:45 > 0:28:49# In the early light

0:28:49 > 0:28:51# I found you

0:28:51 > 0:28:54# With a bottle by your side

0:28:54 > 0:28:56# I can see by your eyes

0:28:56 > 0:28:59# You know that I'm

0:28:59 > 0:29:02# I'm kissing you goodbye

0:29:02 > 0:29:06# I'm kissing you goodbye. #